What do you think about abortion?
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What do you think about abortion?
Something that your parent's should've had.
Should be mandatory for some.
>>708686008
>>708685885
Abortion is fine, but those sick fucks that mutilate still born babies claiming they're aborted fetuses should be shot.
>>708685885
Only up to the age of five years old.
>>708686008
>parent's
Jesus Christ.
Hang your head in shame, for you mistyped when trying to be edgy.
>>708685885
It's helpful
>>708685885
It is the killing of human beings and I would not do it.
I don't have it in me to care about other people doing it. This world is full with horrid shit.
>>708685885
Perhaps I'm biased as an atheist, but I don't think there is anything wrong with it. Fetuses can't have emotions, they can't feel, they have no personality, so what makes them any different from the millions of other sperm cells they came with?
>>708688131
newborns and small babies are not conscious either
>>708685885
I think it kills the baby.
>>708688131
Oh you're an atheist? Please tell me more!
>>708688131
>>708685885
I'm completely fine with it. For instance, I could wipe pic related off my shoe and I would not feel any remorse.
>>708688365
He's saying that because it's usually christ fags that are pro-life. Even tho if they read their own book they'd see that children are not counted as humans until a few years old. Agnostic seems the way to go all in all.
>>708685885
Abortion is literally killing a developing child so obviously it's not okay. Retards.
>>708688238
>>708688131
Someone in a coma or a vegetative state is also not conscious or aware of themselves so should we kill them if they inconvenience us?
>>708689614
i am against it and abortion so
>>708688131
how do you know if someone is an atheist vegan crossfitter? they tell you!
>If the child is gonna be retarded, cut it out.
>If the child was conceived through rape, cut it out.
>If the child was conceived due negligence, ignorance, or just being a general whore, tough shit.
If people have unprotected sex children will be made; it's not rocket science. If you don't wrap your dong or she doesn't take the pill at 4:30 every day then fuck you both.
>>708689614
That depends if they have provent to deserve our help during their time of not being cripples. If they've been useless unemployed dumbfucks, then kill 'em off, if they've worked in any good way, then honour them.
Also regard stuff like if they got any chances to wake up again, I mean.. not much use to keep a lump of flesh alive. Except you can make them useful like Steven Hawkins.
>>708689614
Yes you dumb shit what's the point in keeping the thing alive? For the comfort of the relatives? Because it's technically human? It's not living, it's surviving, BARELY. If I ever got paralyzed and needed help constantly I'd want to be euthanized. I'd kill myself or beg them to kill me.
>>708688131
>>708687955
They weren't meant to be had in the first place
>>708689979
>Let's go on /b/ today
>Got to be completely amoral to fit in with the Cool kids
you fucked up (literally) you should deal with it by taking care of the damn child,
>>708690459
This.
>>708689402
Better to be aborted than adopted.
>>708685885
It should not be used as a form of birth control. 3 month old fetus looks like a shrimp, so it's definitely not human.
>>708686008
>>708690530
Well actually it's not. I know plenty of adopted people who have great lives.
>>708690400
The fact that you can only explain my opinion by thinking it's some edgy shit shows you aren't supposed to be on here.
>>708686211
What the fuck should they do with a stillborn baby though?
>>708685885
Mixed opinions.
I just found out my Craigslist gf is pregnant, and we know it's by me.
Known her 43 days, and we're talking about getting married just so I can jump on her insurance. We're both 26
>>708685885
Jews need dem fetal stem cells nigga
>>708685885
>What do you think about abortion?
It sucks
>>708690550
But it's is...
>>708689614
A coma? Sure, keep them alive.
Vegetative state? If I'm a vegetable, destroy my body.
>>708685885
Completely justified if the fetus doesn't have the mother's consent it needs to GTFO little rapist.
It's clearly wrong. Only moral degenerates think otherwise.
>>708690683
Either bait or you're getting trapped. Don't be so dumb, marriage is never the right choice.
Wish I was
>>708685885
I think it's based as fuck, and should be done a lot more often than it is. I'm not even trying to be edgy, most people are horrible parents, and the ones who would be good ones should really just adopt one or more of the starving children already alive.
/thread and /fetus
>>708690655
Well it's kind of hard to take your opinion seriously when I don't know anything about you and all I have to go on is "Hurr durr I'm an atheist and I hate religion." Also please explain how I don't belong on a free to use global image board.
>>708690931
>be one of the few people with good enough genetics to raise a child properly despite the MSM trying to make me into a tranny.
>this nigger says I should adopt some nigger baby with bad genes
No.
Free.
Lunches.
Nigger baby.
>>708690864
Not bait. But I might do it. It would be a way for me to get some good insurance, health and vision. Plus we already decided to have the kid. So why not and settle down
>>708690931
> let more people do abortion
> adopt starving nigger children
> kill off the white race even more!
Yeah.. no.
>>708691114
Well...I wasn't being edgy, but you are.
>>708691211
>muh white race
That's a /pol/ meme, and you should return there with it.
I and others have genuinely wished we were aborted enough times I can't honestly believe it's 100% a Bad Thing all of the time. That said, we kind of have to trust women's decision on the matter. They're the ones who have an actual living tissue connection to the fetuses. If they don't know, then nobody does.
I don't care how white your lab coat is, or how shiny the frame on your doctorate is. Technical knowledge doesn't surpass the fidelity of actually having a body-body networked connection with the fetus. That's the golden standard of authentic communication for organic, conscious beings. Y'know.. like how we know what our body is feeling, because it's our body.
That's the connection that women have with fetuses. They are networked the same way that your face is networked to your brain. So, I say let them decide.
>>708686008
>>708685885
would never do it myself, but don't care if others do.
>>708691226
I'm being real. If you're a good parent, you have good genes. Don't waste resources on a crack baby with nigger tier genes.
>>708688131
> as an atheist
>>708691394
>>708687955
Pussies
Abortion must be legal. way too much stupid people on this planet. Way better to kill it while it's still not conscious than to put it in an orphanage, beaten by it's crappy parents with no future whatsoever etc..
And even besides all that, people are stupid, accidents happen, you should be able to choose if you want to raise a kid. Posting some gross pictures doesn't change that. It's common fucking sense
>>708691315
>you believe something that others consider a meme, you must be stupid
That makes so much sense. Thanks for clearing that up you shill
>>708691425
>MUN genes
Go back to >>>/pol/
>>708691618
>you believe something that others consider a meme, you must be stupid
Yeah, in this case, that's exactly correct.
>>708691709
oops s/drips/trips. my bad.
Not my problem if someone wants to do it, but need to accept that it's murder and the psychological impact it has on people.
>>708691681
The majority of your intelligence is genetic you fucktard.
Seriously, why would you raise a retarded baby when you could raise YOUR baby who has YOUR superior genes.
My wife's boyfriend says you're a fucking cuck btw.
>>708685885
it's bretty cool. i aborted this one out of my back.
as a crime-fighting method, it's highly effective.
>>708691709
No one actually cares about that though.
>>708691848
that's like saying women who are prone to miscarriages are like little baby aushwitzes. Until a certain point, it's like getting a mole removed.
>>708686975
>>708692019
You compare miscarriages with abortions, ok.
>>708685885
i don't
>>708685885
It doesn't seem to be fun.
It's a fetus, it has no rights.
>>708691709
kek
Pretty hard to argue that abortion isn't horrible. That said I strongly believe there are too many people in the world and don't need any more- especially not the unwanted ones
Having an opinion on somebody elses pregnancy is already a flawed premise. That shit is nobody's buisness but the pregnant girl herself and her doctor.
Fucking Americans and their wedge issues; your guys could be booming if you just nuked those southern states. Too late though. Should've slaughtered all of them during your civil war.
I'm for early-term abortions. Late term abortions are quite literally killing babies. If that's legal, might as well make it legal to kill them until they can walk. If you have an 18 month old baby that you don't like, eh just kill it.
>>708692578
i am ok with this proposal
>>708692578
Very very few people get late term abortions, and almost no doctors perform them.
It's usually only done for health emergencies, and when it comes down to it, I'd choose my girlfriend's life over a baby's without hesitation.
do it it's a alright thing to do.
>>708691909
Right? Hey, I believe in souls and jesus and blah blah blah, but nevermind that they wouldn't have been loved, lived a horrible life because dad has proclivities towards little girls.
And trust me, i'd have started 'em young. 7, at least. And it would have gone on for years.
And me, i'd be broke, hating every second of fatherhood (except for the obvious), the kid would have picked up on the resentment and lived a life of essentially torture. Become a stripper, get addicted to skag, start fucking any asshole who could keep her high, and then died sucking off some nigger in a back alley for 20 bucks.
Or $250 later and nobody has to deal with that horrible situation.
Oh I'm sure one of the anti-abortion douchebags would have picked her up, right? They can stand out in front of abortion clinics all day long and hold up pictures of mangled fetuses, but they can't be bothered to drag their asses out to a fucking adoption agency and provide a life for one of these precious little lives they're complaining about.
Because they're like every other activist and protester and whiner out there. They want to pat themselves on the back for being moral crusaders. They want to yell and get their frustration out and turn the whole thing into it being about THEM. But they won't lift a finger to fix the problem. All they're willing to do is bitch and moan about the problem.
Useless. Fucking. Cunts.
>>708691363
Great way to skate around the matter entirely and not actually have a viewpoint.
>>708692513
>Pretty hard to argue that abortion isn't horrible
I don't even see any moral/ethical weight to this issue. There's no fucking consciousness there! If it's the potential that bothers you, you might as well act the same way about the sperm that gets wasted when you fap.
>>708692520
sup reddit
>>708685885
perfectly fine, i wouldnt mind considering a week old abortion for deformities. a blank slate conscious is not a human being.
>>708685885
I think abortion is a wonderful experience for the entire family, after all, it does bring out the child in you
>>708685885
>Annihilate your fetus
Fucking anti-abortion twats.
If only lions had been more plentiful.
>>708693293
Improve your delivery. That should have been funny but it wasn't.
>>708685885
World is overpopulated, so abortion will be a requirement of poor people sooner or later. So I think nothing
Should be unquestionably legal.
The various circumstances that can demonstrate the need for it makes anyone's "pro-life" stance just stupid.
Either it is all OK or none is OK.
No gray area.
If you don't like abortion, don't get one.
If you happen to have a cock between your legs, just shut the fuck up. We aren't women and have deal with it like they do.
Note it is a grand majority of men that say to women "you can't do that".
>>708693702
le reddit
>>708685885
Should be legal
Should be free
Should be encouraged in certain cases
>>708685885
sexy.
>>708692975
This is a facetious argument though.
Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean you have the capabilities of doing something about it. After adopting the 20th kid from that agency, the situation remains the same because there's thousands more.
Sounds like more of a problem with birth control than anything else. Why did it have to end up as a pregnancy? Why not just get your tubes tied if you know that you're going to have tons of sex and risk running into the problem in the first place?
Instead, abortion is used as the birth control method which people are obviously going to find issues with. Safe, Legal and Rare, right?
Killing a pregnant woman gets you a charge of double homicide. Yet you can rip a child out with a set of tongs and then rip it to pieces and then everyone walks away. Its murder plain and simple. life begins at conception. Thats not religious propaganda thats a proven scientific fact. Liberals love science unless it's used against their ideologies . Our Constitution guarantees us life, liberty and the pursuit of happeniess. Abortion is a robbery of such rights. No human being should have the right to take life unless your life is in danger.
>>708691878
nice tendy you got there
>>708685885
With so many grown-ups who deserve to die, who are also responsible for having tons of kids, why kill children? I say kill some of them later, when they actually deserve it. Then they can't reproduce any further, and we have a pure and peaceful society.
>>708694174
*happiness
>>708694174
Majority of states no longer consider it a double homicide.
>>708694377
Good. That was a seriously ass-backward idea.
Speaking of doubles...checked.
>>708694377
>12 out of 50 states
>Majority
Pick one
Abortion is a good thing. Don't be a sensitive faggot.
>>708694640
>Speaking of doubles
Dafuq you talking about, nigger? I don't think you get my point
>>708692520
So abortion should be legal is what youre saying?
>>708685885
>>708694282
aka a niggerless society.... ..
good luck you fucking idiot
>>708685885
Let the people do it whenever they want. If they can deal with the consequences themselves, they deserve to make the decision. Why cant anyone come to this conclusion? Its either none of the above or all of the above?
>>708694773
>Wikipedia as your source
Wew
>>708694926
Lurk more newfriend
>>708685885
Love them
>>708685885
I think it hurts like a bitch
>>708686008
>parent's
>>708694163
Oh bullshit. Nobodys asking them to go to there like a rescue shelter and set up a fucking farm of them. One. Two. even.
But not one. They want their own children. Or "they're not ready". But like most christians, they don't hesitate in telling everyone else how to live their life. Shit, the intrusive dickheads pound on your door when you're trying to sleep through a fucking hangover because they're so convinced their way is the only way that they turn something thats supposed to be beautiful and personal into a fucking commodity to be sold.
As for the reasons, it's because condoms don't feel as good as bareback, and busting a nut in a chick bareback is fantastic.
Fun story. The last two girls I had abortions with were just normal, got them knocked up, head to a clinic, scoop 'em out, be supportive with them, break up a few weeks/months later. But the first one? She was FUCKED up. Puerto Rican gothy alternative chick. Listened to industrial (it was the early 90's), dark hair, dark clothes, waaay overly dramatic, and boy did she love drama.
So I get her pregs, she tells me, oshit.jpg. So I put in some extra shifts (waiter - i was 18), and 2 weeks later we go to planned parenthood. We get rid of the thing and she's acting like she's all sore and hurting inside, even though the procedure apparently doesn't cause that much trauma.
Anyways, we're sitting there watching tv, and she starts kissing on me a couple hours later, She starts sliding her sweatpants off and we bang. I nut in her again that night. I pull my dick out and it's all red with blood and cum and bits of what I assume is the remains of my kid. I was all kinda play acting like it was horrible because that sort of thing is supposed to be traumatic, but I was actually turned on by it. I REALLy wanted to put my dick in her mouth to clean me off, but I don't think she'd have been into it.
Anyways, funny story.
Let's get on point here.
Nigger abortions are ok because they are just niggers, and that would prevent further nigger breeding.
White abortions should be illegal because you would be killing an actual human being.
What is so hard to understand about this? This is a racial issue, not a moral issue. Why are we pretending otherwise?
Let's all join hands.. They hate us already anyhow
>>708688238
>>708688365
>>708688438
>>708689614
>>708689771
>>708690209
>>708691498
retarded newfags taking the bait
>>708688269
Underrated comment
>>708685885
i think of it as neccesary evil, it's better the fetus be aborted than the child being born to parents that don't want it and who will raise it poorly or if the fetus has a serious problem then they really are better of being aborted rather than suffering for their entire lives.
>>708685885
People have been doing it for thousands of years, so obviously it is something uniquely human. Might as well consider it a fact, and make sure it is safely available.
>>708685885
Only acceptable if they're disemboweled
>>708695622
OK Pete. faggot
>>708695902
Freakonomics baby
I'm torn on it to be quite honest. I see it as prevention of a life, which is essentially ending it, but how good of a life would it be? The child isn't wanted, and has a high chance of being put up for adoption and being bounced around foster homes for years. If the child is kept, it will likely impoverish it's I'll prepared parents, making a hard life for all of them.
All I can say is I don't think people from wealthy families should do it. They can pay for care takers and shit well that get their shit together, go to school, and come out able to support the kid.
It's absolutely justified in cases of rape or being a danger to the mother, no matter what.
>>708697376
>but how good of a life would it be?
All human life is shit tbqhwy family.
>>708686008
Well isint this a volatile topic... And boy oh boy what a place to discuss...
But in all seriousness I have nothing against abortion if the PARENTS do not want that child. They should have the right to choose to go through with abortion, rather than have the baby, and then raise it in poverty, or simply be unable to raise it at all.
So yeah. I'm not against it. It saves the baby from a rough upbringing (Poverty, unloving parents, worst case scenario they get taken by social services and given to a foster home).
But I'm for it ONLY in those conditions.
>>708685885
It depends on the mother's reason and cause of birth.
>>708697780
>cause of birth
Has this been explained to you yet how babby is formed?
It can be avoided
I only support it if both the mother and baby will die.
Which is rare these days, thanks to our medical system.
So no, I do not support abortion. I am pro-life.
I think that it is a female AND male's responsibility to make sure they use protection. And there is always a chance of pregnancy, so they should have sex knowing that.
If she gets pregnant knowing that they didn't use protection, then that sucks for both of them. I'd say it is the male's choice what happens to the baby as well, since it is his very own flesh and blood that is growing in the woman.
When I have sex, I make sure the male is using some kind of protection, because I'm too young to get pregnant and I still have a whole life ahead of me. I'm not ready to get pregnant yet, and I know that, so I am responsible with my sexual choices.
Plus, there's always adoption. There are so many people who want children but can't have them.
>>708698519
This
>>708698519
Orphanages and foster care are grossly over saturated because of this reasoning.
>>708698793
Well maybe that's because we're the horniest fucking generation of all time.
>>708698519
Why do people like you even use 4chan? Also, you know the rules and so do I.
>>708698962
>muhhh tits or gtfo
There's no attention whoring. This anon is simply stating a valid opinion.
Stop making yourself look like an idiot and fuck outta here.
I'm not a woman so, it isn't my problem
>>708685885
I didn't know i existed until 2. Unless anti abortionists start adopting the unborn before they're born, do whatever you want. Biblically, if you couldn't feed your child, you didn't.
>>708699236
>There's no attention whoring.
Not how it works, newfag.
There's literally no reason to be against it. All you're doing is erasing a bunch of cells.
>>708699346
Only newfags call other people newfags.
BBQ Sauce and it should be fine. Just remember low and slow.
>>708699457
So that means I can kill you, and justify it by saying I'm just erasing a bunch of cells?
topkek
>>708685885
All for it
>>708699346
Except it is. You mihght not be able to tell because most of the femanons here are attention whores, but the principal reason we ask for tits around these parts is because if you want to act like a whore, we'll treat you like one.
>>708690675
not use if for propaganda
>>708685885
If you don't want one, don't have one.
>>708685885
If it can't survive on its own, its okay to get rid of it.
>>708699606
Nice strawman mate. Can I borrow it for my corn field?
When you kill someone, you're doing way more than simply erase a bunch of cells.
>>708691878
What the fuck am I looking at here? Some kind of ayy lmao?
>>708699528
And you just called me one, so...
>>708699735
>femanons
The term is cumdumpsters. What the fuck has happened to this place?
Cumdumpsters post timestamped tits if it is made clear that they are cumdumpsters.
>>708689614
We should, and they'd probably thank us if they could. People who are dying or comatose aren't kept alive for their sake but for our sake, so we can delay our grief.
>>708699878
So whats the difference between aborton and murder?
>>708698962
Faggot, tits or gtfo only applies when it's a "HEY GUYS I'M A GIRL" type of post.
i think we need more abortion. Too populated and we wont sustain for more than another 100 years at this rate and that's pushing it
>>708700022
No, I was saying what newfags are.
I never called you a newfag.
>>708700120
What's the difference between removing a tumor and an abortion? Both feeding off of you, grow bigger, and the body tries to get rid of both.
>>708685885
it's sometimes the best option a child has for a future.
it's sometimes the best thing for saving a woman's life.
it's sometimes the best way to "do no harm".
it's never murder, because no fetus is a person yet, and we know that scientifically, so fuck off, pro-lifers.
it's often a difficult choice for a woman to make.
>>708700383
But you chose to let something feed off you.
And it's a human being.
Not a tumor.
>>708700022
>I'm gonna be as edgy as I can. Surely I can fit in that way!
>>708700120
Abortion = stopping a bunch of cell that aren't even developped enough to allow conscience
Murder = Halting the life of a sentient being
If you're still too dense to understand, I can't help you.
>>708690550
except it is a human bean.......
>>708700158
An IQ based culling would be ideal.
>>708700556
How is a baby not a sentient being?
>>708689614
absolutely. even if that person wakes up, they aren't the same person, but more importantly they are likely handicapped to a severe degree and will need constant care.
And Jeb Bush can die for what he did to the family of Terri Schiavo.
>>708700251
Well good because I'm not one :^)
Cumdumpsters post timestamped tits if it becomes clear in ANY way that they are cumdumpsters. Or they GTFO. The rule is simple and you're being a white knight faggot.
>>708700649
Are you black?
>>708700062
>this
though some of them end up "coming back" after some months while others stay in coma for years, wasting resources
>>708699878
>When you kill someone, you're doing way more than simply erase a bunch of cells.
Are you, though? I mean...not really.
It's a good way to get rid of niggers.
>>708700506
>Choosing
In what circumstance? It's an absolute rarity that people choose to be pregnant. They're choosing not to be.
>>708686008
>>708689614
not if we know for a fact that in less than 9 months they will wake up.
>>708700821
I wonder how those women got pregnant then. Hmmmm...
>>708685885
I do not like to see an unwanted child walking in this world. His life would be very cruel.
Already, I think that people who do not have a stable economy and want to have a baby, it's like a crime.
But I think that if women have abortions after 28 weeks would be bad too! Because after those 28 weeks, the fetus begins to feel pain. So as I think abortion is not bad, (but only with good reason), people should be informed about that.
I made it out, so I don't care that much. It's funny to watch people argue about it though.
>MUH UTERUS
>>708685885
Would be Dr. Deletus
>>708700558
And a real hero
>>708700383
because a tumor will most likely kill you.
>>708700643
It is. You're a fucking retard if you can't tell the difference between an embryo and a fetus.
>>708700420
except that it is a person.
>>708700506
A tumor is a part of that person more than a fetus is. Foreign object detected
>>708698919
Sexually repressed individuals of 1800's were no less horny, they were just taught different values. The real problem is failing education system. Contraceptives are available, but people are just too stupid to use them.
>>708700916
they chose to let themselves get raped by obama black lives matter rape patrols
>>708700756
No, why would you ask me that?
>>708700799
I mean that's debatable. What's not debatable are the differences between what each scenario entails.
>>708700921
>I do not like to see an unwanted child walking in this world. His life would be very cruel.
Life is always going to be better than death. I don't think you truly understand the finality of death and what that means. Justifying killing someone before they are born because they might have a little discomfort astonishingly cruel and irresponsible.
>>708700989
And a fetus couldn't?
>>708698519
wow thats was a lot of text just to say
"i'm a retarded ass girl whose opinion doesn't matter"
>>708700921
WTF anon. Didnt expect to find my opinion written in normal words on fucking /b/. Thank you for using logic and your actual brain.
Hey, pro-choicers, if the world is that populated, then give me a good reason why you shouldn't have been aborted
>>708685885
>>708701224
you are a failed abortion.
>>708700556
so is it okay to kill someone in a coma if you know with nearly 100% certainty that in less than 9 months they will wake up????
>>708685885
All for it. It's not that I'm pro-choice, rather, I'm anti-life.
Abortion is fine if you can positively identify the moment that there is a transition from a sack of cells to an unborn human being with its own life and the rights that go along with it. Unless you can define when that moment is, I don't see how you can justify abortion. If you're wrong, then it's really nothing short of murder.
>>708701242
Simple, prolifers make prochoicers. Just like heterosexuals make homosexuals.
>>708701242
because you pro-lifers' would protest it.
>>708685885
It's about women not wanting to take responsibility for their actions.
If you get an unwanted pregnancy and then wait until the 9th month to do terminate, then you're the one who needs to be aborted.
>>708701345
this guy gets it.
>>708701402
>if you can positively identify the moment that there is a transition from a sack of cells to an unborn human being with its own life and the rights that go along with it.
When it gets pushed out of a vagina.
>>708701097
kek.
>>708701099
>let themselves get raped
It isn't rape in that case.
>>708701161
Because I wanna know how low your IQ is.
>>708701220
How could it?
>>708701224
How would you be here, if there were no girls?
>>708701097
>Contraceptives are available, but people are just too stupid to use them.
This, and because they know that their irresponsibility can be erased by an abortion.
>>708701323
shhhh the men are talking
>>708701033
fuck off
>>708701402
There is no way to define that, because there is no line. The moment you decide to have sex with someone is the moment you decide that it is okay to make a baby with that person. If you are not okay with making a baby with someone, do not have sex with them.
we have enough humans, what's the problem?
>>708701419
So.. You wanted to be aborted?
>>708701564
C sections excluded. Besides you'd have to abort before C sections existed.
>>708701564
So it's ok to kill it 5 minutes before it comes out? Obviously not. How about a week before? A month before? 2 months before? When does it qualify as human life? How can you back that up with solid evidence?
>>708701571
>Because I wanna know how low your IQ is.
Oh balls, it's this meme. Who's being an edgelord now?
>>708701571
thats a really irrelevant post anon.
How would you be here if men didn't do all the work so women could sit on there asses and squirt out babies for literally thousands of years?
>>708701033
>because no fetus is a person yet, and we know that scientifically, so fuck off, pro-lifers.
>>708685885
I'm pro abortion... everyone should get one.
Removing existence and murder is the same thing.
>>708701331
No because in that case the death of that person would be way more impactful than the ''death'' of a fucking embryo.
>>708701629
A responsible mindset like that does not exist in this world anymore.
>>708701220
Anything could kill you, but a tumor is many orders of magnitude more likely to be lethal than a baby.
Im new here.
What is wrong with abortion?
Why is it bad?
And how many of you remember when you were a fetus? let alone being 5 months old.
>>708700921
>Because after those 28 weeks, the fetus begins to feel pain
Pain receptors have been found to develop as early as 8 weeks.
>>708701676
>So it's ok to kill it 5 minutes before it comes out?
>>708701718
except that it will be.
>>708701710
Don't dodge my question, Hillary Clinton.
How would you be here without women?
Funny how a bunch of edgy faggots turn into lovey dovey tumblrites when it comes to abortion
>>708701768
Ok cool. Have the baby then set it free into the woods.
>>708701661
sure, why not. i slave my life away and browse this shit hole in my idle time, not like anything of value would be/have been lost.
>>708701345
I couldn't say it better
>>708700506
>And it's a human being.
but it's not a person. it's a fetus. it doesn't even have a conscious thought of its own until the week before it's born.
Very vague terms are used to declare that an unborn child has rights the same as any other person. but an acorn is not an oak tree. An unborn child has the -potential- to be a human being. but they aren't there yet.
so no. It absolutely is a tumor. It cannot survive without a host (mother). At some point, as with premature births, a child can survive without a mother, but that survival requires extra care in a NICU, and is basically the same sort of feeding and bodily fluid cleanup that would have happened in the womb had we not given the born unborn-child the miracle of modern medicine to help them survive.
So no, you're wrong. An unborn child is not a person.
>>708701756
Why is that? How do you know what that baby may have grown up to do? What if that baby was meant to grow up to be John Connor or some shit???
>>708700916
Wanting to have Sex is an entirely different motivation than wanting to have a child.
>>708685885
I think it should be avoided.
>>708701905
Are you an atheist?
>>708701807
Do you remember feeling pain in the womb?
>>708702037
How so?
Why not just masturbate in front of your lover, or have them finger you/give you a blowjob?
Pregnancy free.
>>708701905
>It absolutely is a tumor
I've always seen it as more of a parasite
>>708701905
>An unborn child is not a person.
Because you say so.
>>708701242
just talking to retards like you makes me wish i had been aborted or miscarried.
>>708702070
I'm not >>708701905 but what does atheism have to do with anything?
>>708702179
The safest way to ski is to not ski
>>708702030
I for one welcome our new Terminator overlords.
>>708701905
A two year old cannot survive without the host. Is it okay to murder toddlers???
>>708685885
I couldn't eat a whole one to myself.But there yummy.
>>708685885
>What do you think about abortion?
Your pic pretty much sums it up. . . . killing a genetically distinct human.
It's OK when
> mother's life in danger
> kid is nigger / spic / pineapple / dune coon / etc.
> kid will be gay / lesbian / bisexual / transgender
Once sexual degeneracy is identifiable in utero, the LGBTQI freaks will be aborted at the same rate as potatoes.
>>708702030
>What if that baby was meant to grow up to be John Connor or some shit???
Because if you have to consider abortion to begin with, chances are your kid won't grow up in a fruitful environment.
>>708702252
>muhhh, I voted for obama
>>708702179
>>708702037
just no. Sex is literally our instinctual motivation to have children.
>>708685885
After some time finally figured it out. Dems want blacks and minorities in jail. Republicans want them to get jobs join the military ect. pay child support. Dems know you can only keep a group of people incarcerated for so long before they rise up. So by creating an abortion culture all the minorities will be aborted. Using the media and TV programming they will teach future generations its OK to abort babies especially the minority ones most made by rape when they let them all loose.
>>708701242
Because obviously my parents WANTED to bring me to term. If they didn't want to bring me to term, they would have aborted me.
>>708702097
Do you remember being 1 year old?
>>708702037
Actions have consequences. And you're wrong actually. The motivation to have sex exists for the sole purpose of reproduction. You mind may be telling you that you just want to fuck, but the reason that you and every other male creature on this planet has been imbued with the desire to fuck is to reproduce.
>>708702255
Because religious people like myself believe all humans have souls.
>>708702491
For dat section 8, welfare, food stamps, and Medicaid nigga
>>708702337
a two year old needs a community.
a two year old can feed itself and grab a blanket, given the presence of resources. a fetus cannot do anything like that because it hasn't the mental facilities to connect those cause and effect relationships. Now we're getting into cognition and learning, which is way off topic.
But hey, nice attempt at a straw man.
Here's a slippery slope for you, since you're into poorly formed arguments: What's the difference between abortion and miscarriage? Is Argentina your hero now for making miscarriage illegal?
>>708702558
Not true, sex in social animals is also used to solidify the hierarchical position within a population l2behviouralecology
>>708702097
>Do you remember feeling pain in the womb?
The amount of pain felt isn't really the defining factor in what qualifies as murder.
>>708702476
That may be, but you know that a lot of people don't have sex to procreate, right?
>>708702197
>Because you say otherwise.
fucking hypocrit
>>708702558
Then explain not getting pregnant a third of the month nor during pregnancy. sole purpose? Sure
>>708702568
so? An aborted soul is faster with god, amirite?
>>708702652
What about a 1 month old baby, who cannot do any of those things? It has just as much need of the mother as a fetus.
God did not intend for man to play God and decide who lives and wo dies. Mothers who aborted there children will burn in hell for an eternity.
>>708685885
Life sucks. Human beings are a shit tier species, with a shit tier civilization, and we treat each other like shit. I truly and deeply think that creating a human life is the most cruel and evil thing that a person can do. And that pretty much makes aborting one the most merciful thing a person can do. The entire experience of being a person is just a hellish nightmare.
>>708702796
Then why would God give that mother an opportunity to have a child?
All cunts who have abortions cuz "muhhh I'm not ready" should be sterilized.
>>708702652
Abortion is a choice, miscarriage is an accident.
>>708702680
secondary to reproduction by a mile.
>>708702558
> sex exists for the sole purpose of reproduction.
Sex is often a way to solidify romantic partnerships. Look at Bonobos, or dolphins, or same-sex relationships in nearly every invertebrate, which is obviously not for reproduction.
>>708690204
>begging to be killed while in a coma
>>708685885
Abortion is a fucked up thing but it's in that gray area where you don't want it to not be available but at the same time you can't help but be disappointed in people who do it.
It's 2016 people. There's almost no excuse to be pregnant in 2016 by accident. Why can't people learn how to use birth control? I think subcutaneous birth control should be mandatory for anyone under the age of 18 (or maybe 21). Would solve a lot of problems.
>>708702918
What if you're prone to miscarriage. Every pregnancy is a miscarriage. You know it will always be a miscarriage. Tried fertility and still miscarriage. How many before it's considered a choice and not an accident?
>>708702568
where is my soul? tell me, with precise language and scientifically sound theories or observable evidence where my soul is.
Nigger abortion and sterilisation should be encouraged and rewarded with shiny trinkets.
This should be done under some sort of aid scheme and not be made to appear as targeting the nigger race.
The aborted fetuses should be sold off to research to further advance humanity and processing costs of nigger sterilisation.
>>708689402
Oh obviously, by your objective perception of ethics. Wow, how did you become so informed on the entire earths conception of life? I'll be here holding my dick until you have time to inform me.
>>708703027
What is the point of romantic relationships?
>>708702912
Every woman has an opportunity every month to be a mother.
>>708702790
Because if females were red hot fertile 24/7 the planet would be so full of people we'd be standing shoulder to shoulder like a bunch of fucking penguins in winter. Use that noggin breh.
>>708702918
i said it was a slippery slope, mr semantics. you weren't supposed to actually get caught up on that one.
>>708702912
Because god is an evil fuck, why else?
>>708703156
euphoria fedoria
>>708690530
Anon, are you a sad 17 year old adopted child? We're here for you.
>>708685885
It takes a wire hanger to get it out
>>708703158
kek
>>708703290
So... Sex for procreation is not its sole purpose.
>>708703027
That's a social use of sex. But the reason the brain is driven to seek out sex is not for some social benefit, it's because of reproduction.
>>708703270
>Every woman
not quite
>>708685885
Totally agree with it...reduces crime in the long term, allows young girls to have a second chance to get a better future, reduce risk of health issues in mothers that are carrying a baby that is not viable or already dead(some countries forces the mother to carry their dead babies till the time of delivery is due)...leaving not only fisical but psicological damages that could be minimalized with an early abortion...but I don't agree with abortion when is already passed the three months of the pregnancy state...if the baby is healthy after three months by law that baby should born(to live with the mother or not is another issue...). But if the baby is considered abnormal, with neurological, fisical problems that could lead to not have a normal life for the baby and specially for the parents that could be ruined with all the problems that this situation carries, should not be born.....that's how I feel even being a father of three...
if you cant keep a stable job or are in school it should be mandatory
fuck these families with 20 kids who havent worked a day in their lifes
>>708703148
That's still not a choice to miscarry. That's a disability. A handicap. Nothing wrong with continuing to try to have children if you really want to reproduce. If god wants you to have children, he will make it happen.
>>708703171
friendship is a romantic relationship to a degree. A strong community is built around romantic relationships. There is little connection between romance and children.
In fact, we can say with certainty that most couples find romance to severely depart a relationship on the arrival of children.
Mentioning reproduction when talking about romantic relationships is a bit of a non-sequitur.
http://www.happify.com/hd/the-science-behind-a-happy-relationship/
>>708703465
Let's ask their opinion then.
>>708703542
>god
obligatory "which god?"
>>708703440
I don't expect a bunch of 4th channel tards to wrap their minds around it, but I'll try to explain it one more time. Evolution did not imbue creatures with the drive to have sex with each other because it created social bonds. Those are secondary adaptations. That drive for sex is 100% written into our genetic code for reproduction to further the species.
>>708703542
So knowing for a fact that after having 10 miscarriages, it's ok to try again? To keep trying indefinitely? Just keep at it.
>>708703617
I'm saying not every woman is capable of having children. Some are old, some are barren. Therefor, not every woman has a chance to be a mother every month.
>>708690683
Hang in there anon. Been there before. Kudos to you for being a responsible dude. Don't let people fuck with you, only let the closest 2-3 people influence your decision. I wish you all the best.
>>708703711
Well yeah but we're better than that now.
>>708703654
>>708703654
>obligatory "which god?
nature's rng basically
No problems here.
>>708703126
>>708703337
that's all you can say to a comment which challenges your faith?
nice save.
>>708703711
Then why do people have sex before they can bare children?
>>708703851
>>708685885
I'm not in favour of it - but I also don't feel that if someone wants one that it's any of my business to get involved.
>>708703654
you know, god. The god of Abraham, the same one that almost all religious people believe in. (protip: Christians, Jews, and Muslims all believe in the same god, even if they don't realize it.)
Should it be legal? Yes.
Should it be allowed for babies who are viable? As a society I think we have to come together and save this new person's life, especially since their advocate might want to kill them. So no abortions on viable babies (after 6 months). If you can't fucking decide to abort in 6 months or didn't find out until then, I think the mother should be aborted. Adoption is always a choice that gives an unwanted baby a chance. Late term aborters are selfish, cowardly scum.
Will I or any bitch I knock up have an abortion, fucking hell no they won't. I'll tied that cunt up in my basement and wait the baby out before someone kills my viable spawn.
>>708703803
Cool they can adopt the unwanted before they're born. Awesome
>>708686211
You know still-born babies are dead... right?
They basically die either just before or during birth...
>>708704015
>almost all religious people believe in the god of abraham
>>708703782
yep. It's not just okay, it's proper. Also, at that point it's time to strongly consider adoption.
>>708704031
Viable to accomplish What?
>>708704015
>protip: Christians, Jews, and Muslims all believe in the same god
>>708703937
god you're stupid.
If I find out my baby has some debilitating deformity/disability Im either telling the woman to have an aborting and if agreed im signing of my rights as the father on the spot
Im not wasting years of effort on raising a child for it to live as a potato in some care home when i die
humans have evolved to ween out the shit genes not fucking let them thrive
I GO DUMPSTER DIVING BEHIND ABORTION CLINICS LOOKING FOR UNBORN TREASURE TO RUB MY DICK ON.... SOME TIMES IT'S NOT ABOUT THE DESTINATION BUT THE JOURNEY GETTING THERE... I USUALLY HAVE NOTHING LEFT TO NUT THE TIMES I DO GET LUCKY
>>708704135
So what's wrong with 10 abortions? Same outcome.
>>708703860
Why should I let some 4chan fedorafucking neckbeard try to fuck wth me?
>>708704200
*God
>>708704214
>>708704200
checked, but no, explain why it's stupid to separate "sex" from the not necessarily related "reproduction"
>>708685885
I think black/white solutions to grey issues will never settle on in adaptive based cultures. In other words, I believe abortion should be legal within well defined reason. In other words basic moral common sense. Common sense is often lost when agendas fuel anti/pro types (Religion/Entitlement respectively). Common sense answer is if resulting pregnancy is based on forced conception and such and such time barrier has not been surpassed, its good. If its oops i fucked up, its not. Simple and adaptable to any issue through regulation.
>>708704355
Why not a single gender where anyone can have sex with anyone and anyone could get pregnant?
>>708703782
Are you trying to get a religious person to argue that grey area exists? They don't do grey, bro.
>>708704121
um they do. Christians make up 31.5% of the entire world, and Muslims make up %22.32 of the world. Both religions essentially believe the same thing about Abraham.
>>708704015
Prophets v. "Gods". Take a class in religious studies man. Most religions accept many of the same prophets, differ on their important and differ entirely on the nature of "God". Not faithful to any religion, but know your shit if you're going to be reductive you asshole.
>>708704238
The difference is making the choice to have someone kill the baby for you.
My dream is cum on this babies and then wait if its moves. If the babie moves i'll put my dick into the little head and take a pic
>>708685885
just awesome
>>708704550
Try telling them that
>>708704537
If Jehovah's Witnesses are against blood transfusions, why do they go door to door asking strangers to accept the blood of Jesus?
>>708704550
Jews also do.
>>708704625
Are you by chance a fan of A Serbian Film?
>>708704610
So it'll be okay if you decide to kill it yourself? Neat.
>>708704537
If Christians didn't sin, they wouldn't need Jesus.
