How do I meet people?
25 and all my life I spend alone. Reading, movies, studies, travel. Had a few friends in school, haven't seen them for years know.
Believe it or not: I have literally never spoken to a female outside of a professional conversation.
I have a mobile. noone called for over a year.
Co-worker once dragged me to a flirtcoach at a party (firend of him; he was also there; no professional session). He gave me all that bullshit: be yourself, be confident, just do it and talk to people, etc.
I asked him: How do I talk to people? What to say if I don't have anything in common with them?
Coach asked me: You're on some kind of social media, right?
Only 4chan, I replied.
Awkward pause as he looked at me and then he said: Sorry, bud, I can't help you.
So, /b/ what do you recommend someone in my case besides the obligatory an hero?
I've been that way since I was your age and I'm 29 and it's still the same either learn to accept it or an hero
>>708676236
I'm not even socially awkward. I just don't have interest in common with other people.
>>708676091
>no common interests
>at least my waifu understands me
>>708676091
Same - I will contend with the image though because I think that women can never really be lonely. Their entire setup is designed around close-nit friendship groups with inter-group politics, hence why they always have a solid baseline of companions, but will also always be engaged in vitriolic disputes with others in the group. It seems that if a man is lonely, he will double down and opt to spend time with his thoughts, rather than desperately reach out to others for attention or affirmation.
But in terms of your situation, I think most of us on here are probably the same. Our interests are misaligned with normal outward-bound socially integrated people because we pursue niche interests for the sake of forming our own isolated identity.
I think the best solution to this is when it comes to interacting and talking with others, you can always just listen.
The more you listen, the more of a sense of other people's worldview you'll gather. Treat it more like an exercise in attempting to understand those around you, rather than forcing a bond that revolves around your interests or beliefs (which are typically also misaligned).
The plus side to this is that people really like being listened to. If you listen well, and pursue it as an interest in finding out more about how they operate and act and think, rather than a grueling social responsability/task, then you'll find people offer respect for simply your ability to actually listen to what they say.
Remember, for most of them, when they socialise it's just about finding a time to speak, and then waiting for their next turn. They can be lonely too - despite having friends.
The most important thing is to stay true to your principles, and proactively demonstrate compassion for others. You will have no enemies, and that makes making friends a lot easier.
>>708677353
wait...but you aren't the polan flag anon, are you?
>Coach asks for social media
>Reply "Only 4chan"
>Awkward pause
I don't have a sister. I don't have any other siblings. I don't have any other relatives besides my parents (so no cousins). My parents don't have any friends who have children my age.
I have never had a social life. Nobody knows even that I exist.
>>708677465
Naw, why, what did polan anon do?
Also I'm GB.
>>708678139
There was a Eliot Rogers thread. And he dumped his whole folder of why women are bitches.
Some of that was pretty enlightening.
>>708678139
Here is an example.
>>708678328
I don't think all women are bitches, what I meant was that women and men will typically act on information and occurrences in different ways.
Whether this makes Men or Women better is another debate.
>>708677353
Good one dude
>>708677353
Literature. Listening without zinging one-liners or throwing out "yeah that reminds me of this one time I..." every chance is a valued, nae, treasured quality.
anon is cool guy with great sense of self
>>708678610
Nah, I m not hating on women since I don't know any. But the social pressure is mainly on the men's side. That's basically the statement and I agree with it.
>>708676091
Get some hobbies where you can make friends.
I used to do salsa and bachata and it's one of the main places where the women typically fight for the men because they're rarer there.
But a good amount of hobbies will do because you can join some social group and even if there's no one in that immediate group to go for they always have links and friends and etc. just got to get in that ol social web.
Other decent recommendations for high female count would probably be: yoga, some running/jogging group, any other dance, maaaybe badminton/tennis clubs
Saying that I haven't been to salsa or bachata for ages since I was made redundant and my fucking hobbies are powerlifting, kick boxing, jiu jitsu, reading, guitar, and at my workplace there's literally 2 younger women and pretty sure they both have boyfriends so R.I.P. my dating scene
But yeah outside of tinder (which is... not great) just try and do a hobby that you can tolerate/preferably enjoy where there's probably going to be a high female count
When I go outside I see idiots everywhere. People talking about Youtubers and shit. When you try to start a real conversation with substance nobody knows what you're talking about and you're the weirdo.
>>708679372
oh and just to follow on from this post of mine because I've read something along the lines of "i've never spoken to a woman outside of work" honestly just do what I said and get some hobbies where there'll be women you can interact and you'll probably become way more relaxed about it - talking to women really isn't some huge mystery (although figuring out wtf they want can be but you're not at that stage m8y) if you get some exposure to it any pressure or anxiety will probably drop pretty quick as you realise how normal it is
also if you're doing a hobby together you already all have one common interest which is useful in binding
>>708679372
white guy here. I always wanted to learn how to dance, but I have 2-3 left feet. It's gotta make you the cunt destroyer
Op give mobile number and I will call you.
GB where about? Come either London or Sunderland and i'll hook you up
>>708679648
I meant whenever I talked to a girl it was about the circumstances.
In school we spoke just about school stuff.
Same at university.
When I met a girl at a party which I knew from school/university/work we only talked about that stuff because there isn't anything I can talk about to this people.
>>708679959
07706358251
Do you have money? This is key
>>708680136
Really nothing you can talk about? Sport, tv shows? Anything like that? Just ask where they're from and go from there. Small talk basically
>>708679754
I'm as white as they come and it was pretty easy to learn - I never got especially good but at these classes you get all sorts of people - which includes extremely fat people, old people, and old and fat people - so you'd probably be pretty surprised at how okay it is. Besides, you're all there to try and learn and get better, it's an extremely binding thing. Also you'd be surprised at how you may be next to a great looking guy or girl starter and expect them to be good for some reason just because they're attractive and they're total shit at it
also I realise no one's hunting for an extremely fat or old person but predominantly the women at the place I went to were young and hot - I went to different places and it was the same but honestly no one really cares they're there to try and dance to whatever extent they can so it's chill
now an actual warning I will give is, as an English guy, there were a lot of non-English people there and they will almost always prefer talking to other non-English people
>>708680095
If you meant me >708677353
I'm in London, and I work in Banking. Socially speaking, it's an absolute minefield.
Also, what actually is a hookup?
>>708680314
sports? to a girl? And I don't think girls like to talk about 90s sci-fi tv shows.
I hate mainstream music, I don't care for fashion; food is for me food.
>>708680136
oh right honestly I'm pretty shattered so my reading comprehension is at a low right now
I'm generally pretty good at talking to women and there's really not much to it.
Literally just ask appropriate questions like if I was at salsa they force you to switch partners frequently, you introduce yourself, ask them if they're new and how they're finding it, ask them what made them go for it, ask them what their other hobbies are, pay interest in those other hobbies, so whereabouts do you live? ... oh cool I live X can you drive?
I dunno it's pretty simple - I will fucking say that personally I absolutely despise making conversation literally out of the blue - as in if there's someone standing about who I've never spoken to and I have no rational reason to speak to them I find it very hard to do it - that takes a special kind of confidence
>>708676091
Only a few years and I'll also be in your position, I'll probably an hero after that.
>>708680136
The issue here is that the kind of small talk you can manage is backed up by a framework. In work, you talk about the meeting you were just in, or the work you've been doing with someone else.
In small-talk conversation, you entirely ad-lib the whole thing. We prefer rehearsed, well-executed interactions, because they're safe, and guarantee an exit, because no one likes talking about work-stuff indefinitely.
>>708680704
Where in London? I'm in Croydon, but working in banking is gold, shouldn't you be meeting loads of people? London's social life is top tier too, gotta take advantage of it.
And I mean I could introduce you into girls, and then go from there. Unless you literally just want a whore to fuck.
>>708680722
Quite a few girls I know watch or know a decent bit about football, so it's a conversation started at the very least.
The tv show part I guess, I usually talk to people about shit like Narco's and ect, but if you don't enjoy that genre and recent shows, don't force yourself to watch them.
What about like politics, or social shit going on, or events around the city, ect ect?
>>708678139
male anon here, 21. Where in GB do you live? I'll meet for a beer with you, I'm pretty lonely myself, I live with my sister who is away at Uni all day, and we dont get along that great (I'm /pol/, she is lenin-tier)
>>708680804
I can try that. But the problem is that most people these days have hobbies like "going out", "meeting friends" or partying.
I once talked to a girl on omegle who was into taxidermy. Bascially the most interesting thing if ever heard from another person (makes the situation probably sadder though).
>>708680310
For a fucked up reason I can't connect...
>>708681216
(((Barnet))) here, nestled in the heart of the hasidic community.
>low crime tho
>>708681412
Fuck, if I had a sister I would probably also have friends. That's basiaclly how my buddy met his first gf.
You're just fucked if you don't have any females in your family and your mates are all chess club members.
>>708681761
Oh how is Barnet, is it nice?
Close to Enfield right, Enfield is suppose to be rough
>>708681216
Are you american? Because we might not mean the same football. And trust me over here in good old europe a girl who is interested in football is rarere than winning the lottery twice in a row.
>>708681923
I've been to a property viewing in Peckham, and honestly after that I really can't ever complain about anything again.
Never been to Enfield - that's a little further north than me. Still if someone told me somewhere in London is 'rough', it's just like
>story checks out
>>708677353
Well put.
>this anon hunts for fluorescent minerals at old mines during the night
>i have yet to meet another person while doing this
>>708679488
Man that is the problem..., society construct is shit doesn't work and isolates people and you gotta fit in to a certain group and if you don't you are the weird lonely guy, or you might think that..., truth is that most of us here see society construct thru and it's simply doesn't work on us as mentioned above we don't fit it hence we have nothing in common with the crowd of followers who can't think for themselves and only repeat what was said on TV ..., you ask me ... it fucking hard make a damn meaningful convo with almost anyone who's part of the system ..., if you are not part of it and you ain't alpha you will struggle to find a bird as they love system as it gives them power over you mah matherfucker
>>708682192
No I'm from London lol. You've never met a bird into football really? I know a decent few who even have season tickets and go to games every other week or so.
>>708682210
Peckham is close to me, but I actually haven't been there in a while, so I don't know if it's as bad anymore or if it's nice now?
>>708681111
Also well put. And checked.
What the fuck is wrong with you OP?
Grow a beard, get that ass.
That's me.
>>708682569
It's literally Kingston, Jamaica
If you've not been there either, then don't go.
>>708676091
This photo reminds me of a discussion I had with my sister a couple of weeks ago.
I fucking hate it when good looking girls try to give me advice on approaching girls in public. They always just say ïts so easy to meet people, and girls. Just go up and say hello."
Every good looking girl believes she is a MASTER at talking to people because she is approached all the time by men. And the men will laugh at her unfunny jokes, feign interest in her boring stories, and make her feel like she is the most interesting person in the world.
Mind you, im not complaining about that. I do the same thing to women I am interested in, I just hate it when they confuse men wanting to fuck them with their ability to actually be interesting and charming.
>>708676091
Post one of these threads and roll the dice, bro ...
>>708681412
I'm London now. Most of my uni friends are either abroad, still at uni, or just floating. We all seem to gravitate to the capital in the end though.
>>708681857
I always had the same theory, but then two of my friends who are very similar to me both have sisters. I have a brother, but I'm calling it a win for now. Most people I know who have sisters are never really friends with their sisters, they seem more like they're in a state of learned helplessness.
>>708677524
why would your coach "ask for social media"? Was he looking for recommendations or prying into your life, asking where you post?
>>708682476
>and you ain't alpha
But that's the problem. What does alpha even mean? I stand my ground, I was even in fights where I was alone against three people. I'm not a fucking Big Bang theory nerd.
I don't stutter when talking to girl, or anything like that. It's just that after hi - hi and maybe what's your name it's over with the talking.
>>708681857
I dont really meet my sisters friends, and even if I did, they wouldn't get along with me.
I'm lonely as fuck, been depressed since I was a child, but I get by as always, (I'm sure most people on 4chan know that feel). I'm just looking for somebody with common interests, that I can get along with, so I know I'm not so alone in this world.
>>708682876
THIS!
>>708681412
>>708683474
damn, I'm in Newcastle, only moved here last month, I know nobody.
>>708683534
Probably because he wanted to go that join common facebook groups or such shit.
Or maybe tinder since I also heard that some people advice to have "easy meetings to train social skills" or some shit.
I don't have neiqther of those and I do not intend.
>>708683594
>I dont really meet my sisters friends, and even if I did, they wouldn't get along with me.
You don't have to date them. But it's a lot more when she is over at your place and you are forced to have convo to break the silence. Like why are you here? What are you gonna do? and such shit.
It's really easier than just talking to a girl you met on the streets.
>>708677836
Are you a virgin?
>>708684550
Are you kidding me? I already told in the OP that I never talked to any female (including a hooker).
So, the answer to your question is yes.
well, let's put it maybe that way: What do you think are good topics to discuss with a girl/woman born between the 70s and 2000s?
OP, have you considered asking any girl how has their day been going? Workplace or otherwise, just general subdued interest in the life of others can warm people up. I'm sure you have a moderate degree of intelligence, and as long as vocalize in a not-grating tone you'll be able to have a conversation. The thing is with people is to be interested in what they have to say or do, and if you're not interested then you're not going to make an effort.
>>708685368
whatever you have laughed at while with a group of people
>>708676091
"I don't have common interest"
"reads people minds to figure out their interest"
pick one you socially retarded scared pussy
>>708680722
If you assume women don't like a certain thing then you're probably a real fucking retard. there's no difference in the preferences of women and men
>>708684481
You misunderstand anon. Im not shy of conversation. I always do the small talk, smile, have a conversation, listen, to everyone and anyone. I even have a gf who loves me, although she stayed in my old town due to job, so I'm on my own in a new town I moved to, but its not about talking to people.
I'm lonely no matter how many people I have in my life, because as ''special snowflake'' as it sounds, there is nobody I've ever met that understands me. this is why I say I would die for somebody to come along, that gets MY struggle.
I know I'm ranting, but most people have no idea what its like when, despite people physically being there, you have NOBODY.
Found the OP
>I'm in denial about my looks and scared to talk to girls out of my league
>>708685674
>any girl how has their day been going? Workplace or otherwise
yes, and the answer is always: good. And than silence until I hit a topic from work. That's basically how it goes every time.
>I'm sure you have a moderate degree of intelligence
I suspect that I appear arrogant to other people even if I try hard not to do so.
>>708685810
That would be that we miscalculated the resonant frequence of a high-power oscillator so the whole lab began to shake. Or some kind of that. Trust me this is not an ice-breaker, this only leaves weird facial expressions.
>>708686271
yes, that's true. I don't have any male friends either. I can talk with some of my male collegues about football but that's it. We never met up for a beer or anything else.
>>708685368
I think that, despite best efforts, trying to find intersecting topics to 'discuss' with women in that age criteria will prove a losing battle.
Also, women don't like being debated. They seek affirmation, and don't take blame well.
Honestly if you try forming friendships with women in the same way you would with an anonbro, they'd feel alienated, not supported.
The part where Betas slip up is that they're willing to act the Gentleman to reaffirm the girl's self confidence, but as a result feel they are owed something. This then stirs up uncontrollable 'triggered' thoughts in your mind, which sets off a chain reaction leading to an emotional response, rather than a rational one.
The truth is that all men, and, to some extent, particularly Chads, are machines that exist to absorb problems - the problems their girlfriends face as well as their own problems. Doing this, while also being a 'Gentleman', is the gold standard in terms of what women want.
>>708676091
Go to one of those groups for autistic adults that want to meet people. You can find some QTs believe it or not (I think social anxiety people go to the same ones).
I went and pretended to be autistic and just said I got diagnosed abroad. Occasionally sperg a little to make it convincing.
>>708676091
Here in Russia you just go outside and find some drunkards. Just drink with them and your'e best friends forever. If they will not kill you with a knife.
>>708676091
stop caring, and then the women will flock to you
>>708686625
so you found a mode of resonance of the room that you were in. That's an interesting story. Tell it properly and you have people's attention
>>708686951
>be Russian
>become best of friend and drink the vodka
OR
>are kill with the knife
What an exciting dice-roll :^)
>>708686521
If you think I have unrealistic expectations then maybe you're right. But I certainly surpassed the point where the looks of anyone matters to me.
I just can't find anybody who shares my interest. If a girl would look like Lisa Dunhams face glued to Melissa McCarthy's body, hell, I would go for it. It doesn't matter at this point anymore.
>>708686625
I don't trust you, you made a fucking building shake and you don't consider that a fun or hilarious story to tell people.
>>708677353
This guy get it
>>708686914
>a semi-autist pretending to be a full-blown autist attending an autist meet up to meet other autists
Was there a plan?
>>708686906
>debating them makes me appear arrogant and they feel stupid so they dislike me
>listening to their plain stupid shit and just nodding without contribution makes me appear stupid and they dislike me
>contibuting to their shit is the worst thing because they feel offended
I seriously don't know what I can do.
>>708686914
This is as stupid as the advise for professional help. I now this from people I knew in school and other anons here. They don't understand the problem so they can't help you.
Even worse because they are paid to help you they will force-try and make it even worse because they don't get the problem in first place.
>>708687210
Yeah that's a good point.
OP - you may think that the stories you have to tell will always be boring and end before they start, but again it comes down to inner confidence with the delivery.
I've found that I can interest a small group of people, talking about a story relating to one of my obscure hobbies. I just have to frame the story correctly by making it appeal to them.
This comes from trial-and-error, though. You will have to rough out a fair few awkward silences before you figure out what flows well and what commands attention.
>>708687358
for fuck sake don't you have some hobbies, certain type of music you listen, favourite movies or something? I know it sounds cliche but it fucking helps bringing something like that up in a small talk.
>>708687197
Caring about what? I never cared what other people thought of me. I always thought this is a part of my problem.
>>708688098
or literally anything else that you're passionate about
>>708687358
>Lisa Dunhams face glued to Melissa McCarthy's body
This is called bargaining with yourself. It's like one of the stages of transitioninig from teenaged optimism to real-life acceptance.
When you think of the 'metrics' of relationships like this, such as looks/money/status, you'll always tend towards underestimating yourself. It then turns to desperation if it hasn't already, and women can literally smell that, like wild animals smelling fear.
Unfortunately for us men, and particularly the more sensitive men, 'delicate' traits are undesirable to the opposite sex on a biological level.
>>708676091
check
>>708688803
fuck
>>708687413
You never made something incredibly stupid and was glad nothing serious happeend afterwards even if it could have had serious consequences?
Since other people talk about what stupid thiings they've done while drunk, I don't think this is something special or weird.
>>708688846
>>708688888
>>708676091
>Only 4chan, I replied.
>Awkward pause as he looked at me and then he said: Sorry, bud, I can't help you.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
First and second rule. NEVER mention 4chan.
Normies will think you're some sort of loli-raping Internet-hate-machine nigga-tron 9000.
Just... "Internet forums" if you REALLY need to mention where you heard something from.
>>708687764
You're right with all three of them. All men already know this.
You ever heard of the idea of 'Game'? There's a sleasy science behind this, but all men who are smooth with the ladies just learn the rules of the game first.
Spoiler: it is beatable, it's just it'll probably drive you insane.
If you chat with any Chad regarding this, he'll open the fuck up. Believe me.
>>708687210
yeah, we didn't use the lab room as a resonator. The kinetic energy of the the swinging parts of the actual resonator were transfered on the building through the physical attachement.
I hope this was clear. Otherwise I can only assume you're pulling here some I don't believe you bullshit.
>>708688085
well, since I delivered multiple times to an audience of like two hundret student, I don't think I lack confidence talking to one person.
I just don't think she/he would understand a single word of what I'm saying.
>>708688067
Yeah, fuck that shit.
>>708687764
>debating them makes me appear arrogant and they feel stupid so they dislike me
Don't debate. Let shit slide. Hell, AGREE with them even if they're wrong. This is smalltalk. It doesn't matter.
>listening to their plain stupid shit and just nodding without contribution makes me appear stupid and they dislike me
So agree with their plain stupid shit. "Yeah, that would explain why they had to kill Kennedy. Do you think this has any other implications?". Doesn't fucking matter if it's bullshit.
Or ask SOFT questions like "huh that makes sense.... but if evolution isn't real, what's with those super-bugs getting resistant to penicillin?"
You're NOT debating them.
>contibuting to their shit is the worst thing because they feel offended
How does that happen? Remember, this is smalltalk, you don't ACTUALLY want to talk about X, it's just a medium for shmoozing with people and making them your friend.
Social skills: LIE.
>>708684718
Maybe you fucked a mime or something?
>>708676091
There is no helping it. All that's left to do is take your revenge on a mass group of people.
>>708688098
What to you like to know?
favourite movies: trash
favourite music: film music (not only scores but also tracks used in movies)
other hobbies: rocketry, winery, metal work, wood work, taking walks in the nature, chess, sports, astronomy
How can you talk about any of these things to people who doesn't show interest but only pretend to show interest at it's best.
>>708677836
we know you exist.
>>708678610
This.
>>708689669
....Have you ever talked to kids?
Those shorter versions of people that are complete idiots about most everything.
Being a brainiac talking to normies is a lot like a regular person talking to a kid. Or a brainiac talking to a kid, really.
Their attention span will wander, they won't understand much, and they're self-centered little shits. You've got to TRICK THEM into being interested and/or doing what you want them to do.
>>708689027
But the main point why 4chan does not qualify is because it's short living pairing and anonymous.
We probably never meet again in any other thread and even if we do we probably will never know.
This social media shit was just about knowing people. On 4chan it's impossible to know people.
>>708689068
>Game
no, don't know what this is besides a dank meme
>>708690416
I was literally about to make this point.
If you're say a Quant Analyst and you're trying to have a chat with a child, it's like trying to communicate with a different species.
Being able to empathise really helps here. And we already know that women are naturally better at empathy than men. This explains why there are so many female school teachers - they can get inside the mind of a kid, and work on the kids level.
If you make not even an attempt at doing this, how is the kid ever to understand you?
>>708676091
Women experience the same thing....they're called fat ugly women.
>>708676091
>Coach asked me: You're on some kind of social media, right?
>Only 4chan, I replied.
>Awkward pause as he looked at me and then he said: Sorry, bud, I can't help you.
Funniest thing I've read all night
>>708676091
what are the things you hate most about yourself OP?
other than your isolation obviously
>>708689879
kek
>>708684718
>>708684718
Shit nigger, get thee to Amsterdam, get a little high and pop that cherry. Life will go up from there.
>>708677353
>>708678764
>>708678635
Agreed.
>>708686498
You're not alone among. That's why you've found this place.
And why you're still here
The truth is, it'll be hard to find friends like us out there. Without the security of anonymity, you can't get as close to people as you wish. Same here. I see people with "best friends". People who are like family with each other, super comfortable with them and can truly be themselves
Not all of us, anon.
You have realized now that no one will truly accept you for who you really are. Whether there's something you carry with you that others will not accept, whether you were betrayed before and cannot for your life trust another being, it doesn't matter.
All you can do is accept it, bud. But you're not alone in feeling this way. We got you. Stick with us. We're all you've got anyway
>>708689763
>Social skills: LIE.
Now that's the core of the problem. If there is anything I'm utter shit in and probably impossible to increase my skills even through maximum effort at then it has to be Lying.
I'm literally the worst liar on earth. To my experience I get a lot less problems by being honest.
>>708691308
>cynical optimism
new 4chan meme everyone
>>708690416
In late school years we had some kind of science fairs every now and then. Some kids were smart I could explain everything to them even if they knew nothing at first as long as they were able to listen to what I'm saying.
The kids with no attention span are always driving me crazy.
>>708690973
And they're usually called that by a fatter and uglier woman
And the point is, that's not loneliness. Loneliness is not talking to any person for weeks at a time.
Anyone gone from zero friends to a normal life?
Care to explain how that went in progress?
>>708676091
I'm only on 4Chan too. I can't really get behind facebook or anything. I just can't handle the stress of trying to be appealing. People say I look good and shit but with your post get no likes or comments or fucking anything and your friends get literal hundreds of likes or comments it's very painful. Feels like I'm embarrassing myself. Its hard to explain. I don't want to be idolized, but I don't want to be ignored
>>708676091
Look into why homosexuals don't socialize, and why they read, or create. You'll have your answer. And if not retarded, you'll also understand why you don't like women.
>>708691886
>exercise religiously
>>708691741
Thanks m8
I tried to make him feel good, but also feel like shit
Do you think it'll work?
>>708691297
That pic is so eerily accurate. These are like the tenets of inner confidence behind any smooth-talker.
That's why I advocate listening. It's funny because you will hear the most ridiculous bullshit rambling coming out of some people, who merely like hearing themselves speak.
It's fun to listen.
>>708692000
Although i know that exercising is a good start, i dont think things will automatically change just by exercising.
>>708692363
you'd be surprised.
>>708676091
>I bet you're afraid of being rejected
>you are afraid of being rejected becuase you spend all day on 4chan and know how people can be in their treatment of others, and what it truly means to be rejected
>also you probably bought into what 4channers want 4channers to be, which is anonymous and secret
>you feel guilty talking about gore, trump, or womens rights, video games becuase you spending so much time on here you have labeled yourself as anonymous and already have what an anonymous person is
>generally a loner, with little or no friends, who spends a lot of time on the computer, usually communicating anonymously.
You have your anonymous hat and your "real world" hat and keep them separate for the most part. Though you tend to gravitate towrds the anonymous hat
to over come this you need to rectify this by either
-accepting your fate as a 4tard and adhereing to stereotypes
-giving up the chans and starting from the ground up to build a "real world" identity
-resolving the dissonance between your two selves usually by becoming a total sperg in public and learning to deal with how others deal with your character.
>>708691132
Don't hate much about me. Where I see a weakness I do my best to improve.
But if I had to point something out I really hate it's certainy some poor decisions I made in life. Can't change that though.
>>708692101
imho 7.74/10
>>708691308
>>708692101
nah, I don't feel like shit because I knew this all already. thanks nonetheless.
>>708676091
go raving, drop some mandy, bring enough to share.
>>708692363
Yes it will faggot. When you start getting ripped, everyone will comment. Girls will flock to you no matter your race. I guarantee it. This is if you're ripped which is not easy whatsoever but hey if it'll help you get over your toughest barrier, well then this is your toughest challenge in YOUR lifetime. This is the climax. This is the reason why YOU live. This is the reason why YOU study. So that one day you will have the ability to surpass this onerous task that has set you years back of the Alpha race. The changes you seek are within your grasp but only if allow yourself to reach for it.
>Spread eagle pics of girls in return for motivational preaching?
>>708692563
In time you will become a better person
and look back at those poor decisions in your life as turning points, where catharsis and realization had to hit you in the face in order to become that better person.
getting over the guilt you have with the past is something that is probably holding you back.
its never too late to start doing anything
its great even to fail
age/maturity is a mindset
political correctness is a curse that keeps us from experiencing the truth.
Seriously by not being yourself, you are giving power to political correctness rather than yourself.
>>708691297
>>708692155
As a scientist I can say this is pure shit. Maybe if this is the plan to score. maybe. If you wanna befriend someone don't do it playing stupid. They will feel even more betrayed when you come out later as smart.
>That's why I advocate listening. It's funny because you will hear the most ridiculous bullshit rambling coming out of some people
This is basically all I do at parties. Seriously, there have been parties where I haven't speak a single word to another person.
Bullshit becomes even more fnny and interesting when people get really drunk.
>>708691924
I've always been wary of this, but I think the reality is that it's not as bad as you think it is.
Say a friend you know does a post and gets hundreds of comments/likes - the people choosing to comment and like on this person's post is doing so because they've had previous interactions with that person on a personal level. So what looks like hundreds of people forming a big discussion with the poster at the center, is actually just a bunch of separate people sharing experiences they've had only with each other.
Social media honestly creates this illusion, but the fact remains that that person who got all those likes, did so because they took the time to make conversation with all those people, who themselves then subsequently took the time to comment back or like.
When you compare it to your post, you're probably imagining people in your head scrolling past the popular dude's post, then past yours. Because Facebook bumps things based on your viewing preferences, you're probably getting much less exposure than the popular guy.
And to make something clear, people definitely do not scroll past your post and cringe or think 'eurgh' and move on. Chances are they didn't even see it, or they did, but didn't have anything they were comfortable contributing, as they don't know you well enough. This is fair enough on their part, as you'd act the same regarding posts you reply to. We all just want to do what is comfy and what we're familiar with.
This is the core problem with staking an independent position and sticking by it. Typically, the respect you gain from this in the long run is that people admire your consistency, but they still won't connect with you personally because, in fairness, you won't let them.
Best thing is to flip it around - what if you were them in this situation? Would you strike up conversation randomly with that guy that doesn't talk much, and appears visibly tense around others? Let them bear these apprehensions, because we do too
>>708676939
What are your interests then?
Simple.. Turn Off 4Chan and Go Outside Troll....
>>708693435
his interested are futa loli porn
>>708681472
>phone has been off the whole time
>>708693365
The pic wasn't saying to play stupid, it was just about pep-talking yourself every 5 minutes in your head to remind yourself of your awesomeness.
>>708692412
people think what I wrote in OP was a joke.
I have literally no social life. I have work life, and personal life.
personal life includes internet (4chan) and crafting or hiking in the woods. I meet literally nowhere other people. my hobbies do not involve other people.
People don't seem to understand how it is being surrounded by thousands of people for over twenty years and still not knowing a single one of them.
>>708682822
>Grow a beard, get man ass.
Good for you!
>>708676939
I'm in the same anon
but i can tell you the best thing you can do is DON'T BE YOURSELF never.
Pretend to be a cool boy or act wacky with people so you make them enjoy you. After that go cry in your bed because you are likeable now but you are no longer yourself. :(
>>708691886
I did the opposite, normal life to zero friends. But I believe that's the norm in this shithole
>>708693107
This
>>708692785
Thanks friendo
>>708693924
Because you're a pussy faggot. You choose not to know people from work. You are too used to being a omega as making plans for co-workers will make you the alpha and in return get you to meet their friends and so on. That is how you can potentially meet a mate.
>>708676091
You are a product of the modern era. You never could have lived through the 70s or 80s in the way you described. Or at least it would be highly unlikely.
Your solution also lies in the modern era.
Use profiles on tinder grindr etc to make a non-terrifying profile to meet women/men.
Think about some of your finer qualities and mention them casually, try to include some interests that could be appreciated/shared with another person, don't say anything too creepy/intense when you are starting out.
Create nice pic of yourself, preferably showcasing something a partner might remotely like to touch or fuck. I hear animals in your profile pic make a nice friendly non-threatening image to project to people.
If you are a creepy cunt with bizarre interests, keep that to yourself until much later in the game when you meet people.
Organise a meeting with a potential lover, beforehand, look up civic events going on in your city, gallery openings (free booze) fireworks displays, public sculpture, free performances, food markets, etc. Plan a fun itinerary, many of these sort of events are often free, attend events andmake small talk as you go. If you can click, it will all fall into place. The girl/guy will probably also be lonely and looking for romance or sex or relationship etc. Don't be an autist, keep spaghetti to a minimum, drown in pussy/cocks.
>>708693121
I run 5 km everyday and do 50 push-ups. definitly more cardio than gainz. But I'm not greasy neckbeard.
The only compliments I can get is from my mom when I visit her because - like I said multiple times - I know noone. And if you suggesting that girls will stop on the street to compliment me then I can assure you this doesn't happen.
To the London anons.
Try meetup. There's so many groups in London, just pick something that interests you and you'll meet like minded people.
Met 2 of my closest friends through that site about 5yrs ago and more acquaintances through them.
>>708694441
running 5km and 50 pushups doesn't equate to shit, pussy.
>>708693435
I posted some here >>708690089
>>708693121
No thx life isnt a motivational speech just like it isnt a movie
>>708676091
people love me. my whole life people have liked me and i don't know why. there are better things to be than liked. when anybody that has ever lived has ever admired anybody, it has just been a cessation of hostilities. friendships are few and real and they are tried by adult life and competing adult relationships, and for most people, even the deepest strangest ones fail the people that treasure them. or they expire along with the parties involved. the mistake is believing that the happy people are really happy, that they do not posses the nagging doubts, the complications. I wish I could tell you it will change or that you will be better. I can only tell you honestly that it will grow more complex in perpetuity as long as you live. the only mistake, is believing that it will always be this way. sometimes you'll wish.
>>708677353
quality post, good job anon
>>708676091
when you talk to a girl you're supposed to be mentally and physically suave.
You start, guide and control the convorsation.
The only person that should be shy is the girl.
You have to go in searching for something.
That's why douchebags are confident and cool.
Because what makes a man MAN and what Women find attractive is A focused man.
Most guys look for a girl to just lay in her arms or to just rest from lifes difficulties.
The thing is that's what girl want and need. They look for a man who is strong and focused.
Girls are stupid. They know how to recieve acceptance and that's why they excell in school because of evolution through out the years that's what the womans role has always been.
Mans role is to achieve and bring to the table.
Men don't want help and mentally don't need it.
It's hard to accept but it's the way it is pal. The sooner you become a cold harded piece of shit the closer you'll get to success.
>>708694098
I took acting lessons in school. I'm pretty good at pretending but I always nee a script or a concept. And of couse every play has come to an end at a point.
Somehow be yourself and not be yourself are the two most common advices and neither of both work.
>>708694971
There's the spirit sir. So just take a left and then another left on Main Street to find the euthanasia clinic.
>>708695169
Chriat this is a load of bullshit. Any problems you have had with women clearly stem from the fact that when you open your mouth you sound like a douchebag. Deal with it.
>>708695334
Beta fag
>>708694359
Despite they my collegues have the same level of education certified, most of them are still idiots. They only worked for their careers, they don't show any passion towards their work.
They all on facebook and all this normie shit.
>>708690089
Ah yes, literally nobody in the world is interested in sport. How can you ever find someone like you.
>>708694441
All I hear is fucking excuses. I said RIPPED. Not
>I run 5 km everyday and do 50 push-ups
FFS!
>>708694679
Yes it does, it keeps you healthy and energetic. It's a great baseline to build on because it means you have the core body to adapt to any activity you find interesting.
It's not going to get you ripped, and of course there is nothing wrong with being ripped, but only losers get ripped to get chicks. Chicks with herpes care if you're ripped. Most women will be impressed by "core" fitness and abs, as stupid as that is.
>>708695076
This is very true.
Further to this, watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igKea6GgTvI
>>708691956
The only reply that is based on facts, completely ignored.
Keep pretending you're all just bad at talking to women, and ignore truth.
>>708691956
>homosexuals don't socialize
Homosexuals are some social motherfuckers.
>>708693867
Stop Anon. Let the beta be beta. Hard to watch, I know.
>>708695534
You need to get out there more if you haven't already. Who the fuck cares if they're on facebook? Make one just to coordinate plans. At least you'll have a useful objective to having the profile itself.
>>708695601
Lol
>but only losers get ripped to get chicks
You're so beta bruh
>>708695766
Not talking about flamers in their thirties. The studies are about children and young adults that are afraid to be honest about who there are.
>>708695766
I fucking love playing D&D with homos. They get into it.
>>708694679
>>708695594
pls be more specific then I always avoided gainz because I used to climb a lot and still do at times. High mass isn't really an advantege.
>>708676236
Sybil?
>>708694422
Did you even read my post OP? I bothered to type all that shit out to try and help you forward, and you are banging on about your feelings or some shit.
No one on here gives a fuck about your feelings, they don't know you, that 's what lovers and family and friends are for .
>>708695306
This wasn't even OP aka me.
>>708695942
The fact that you have to think that to make yourself feel better is telling. I'm glad fitness makes you feel better. It does, right?
>>708695766
AIDS
>>708695169
Im not looking for stupid women no matter how hot there are. I'm looking for somebody who shares my interest. Of course I can move to her inerest but the requirement is still that it not a stupid interest.
>>708695975
I mean stand out ripped. Furious Pete level. Think about it, Pete eats like a fucken pig but yet women still flock to him. Imagine if he was a fat fuck or a normal skinny guy? He would have never made it out there.
>>708696039
You really think people like OP didn't make it in those generations?
Easy mode: Gates
Stallman
Jobs
^his fat partner
Pretty much anyone responsible for computers as they are today, was a nerd loser in the 60s and 70s
>>708696092
110%
>be 23 a month and a half
>be like OP
>decide fuck this
>start texting a girl I had a crush on in higschool
>5'3 and 96 pounds, skinny but actually has a nice ass
>she had me friend zoned before so we stopped talking
>pretend im confident
>convince her I am great at flirting and she says we should non seriously flirt
>say fuck no, if I flirt she would definitely like it too much to stay non serious
>learn she is still a virgin at 24, im mind blown because she is literally like 8/10
>tell her we should fuck, convince her its a good idea
>learn she has never even masturbated because she didnt know how
>call her and tell her how as she tries it
>after she cums she says we should date
>mfw
Anons to do when i know how to meet,talk etc to new people but I just cant stop my ego going rampant and feeling im better than them and i just ending up being mean and mad all the time cause i dont want to play the game
>>708682822
Fuck off almir no body wants you here.
>>708696425
Yes, but those people are semi-genius. They have their intellect and their greatness to offer. Half of the people on this site would blow woz or stallman gay or not. People want to be near the people you mentioned like they want to be near the sun to bask inn it's rays. I am talking about normal human beings.
>>708695564
sorry man but sports is the only topic I really sperg out when people (including or even especially hot girls) talk shit.
I can really take everything else but not that one. And women who sometime attend the stadium to watch a match are definetly not automatically sports-interested. Most of them just do it for their social life.
>>708696461
nice lottery win you fucking pisser
Your life is like the plot of every single vanilla anime about a male main character and a qt
>>708696425
And besides, it is not a matter of 'making it' OP is clearly still here, but has made a thread talking about isolation/loneliness, not how he can make it in life.
Attaining a pure state of wizard is a glorious thing, but it is not for everyone.
>>708696759
You seem like the one that's disconnected from reality. Because they all had their nuthangers back then too, and they're the ones you're bitching about. The world has always had nerds, and they always make it.
Get over it.
>>708695752
tell us the truth because I never denied not understanding women and still don't know why faggots not socialize and how this is relenvant to me besides le funney implication dat imma fag lol.
>>708696415
It's not as easy as it seems.
The world isn't the way you make it out to be and you will never find the perfect woman.
In the end you will settle with whatever you get.
Just look at you complain.
>>708696423
yes and now the translation for somebody who never paid for gym or visited /fit/
>>708697054
Strawman much? I haven't bitched about anyone. Try reading the posts more carefully.
If you don't realise that for every Gates there are 250000 suicides, then you need some more life experience.
>>708677353
Godamn 5 stars
>>708697137
Did you research it yourself like you're supposed to? Or did you just talk shit, because you don't know better and think no one else does either?
>>708697346
>Strawman
How many of those suicides are people like OP, or Gates, etc.
>>708697337
I'm just offering you a resolution to the issue you presented to us sir. Take it or leave it, it's up to you.
>>708696981
Besides, the point I was making, was that in those eras, it was near impossible to go through your entire life only having had work related conversations because there was no internet back then. There were no outlets for thought other than coversation, print, video or personal creativity.
You would have to be at extreme psycho level to achieve a life without conversation.
My point is that OP's situation is a result of a more isolated era where conversation is not as essential as it once was.
>>708697689
Well, there is Aaron for one.
>>708696039
yes i read it. I'm slow because i reply to many posts.
But the problem is I have to disagree you in the second line
>Your solution also lies in the modern era.
I don't think this can solve the problem. For the reason I avoided social media for now and will avoid in the future. And you basically admitted this by telling me to make my profile more appealing to other people.
This may seem to make sense on the first sight but it also tells you that the people you meet that way are also lying. And while the picture there is only the possibility that it is the person or it is not the person, about personality there are much more possibilities to lie.
So basically, on the internet everybody lies and if it's not only a hook up you're looking for you can only lose.
>>708676091
trust me bro it's better that way
after a while being a socialfag you realize no one's really your friend anyways
The key is definitely to find other people that have shit in common with you - thus, you're here. We're all in it together b
>>708677353
Wow, this is definitly me while i'm driving
(*insert black emojis here*)
>>708697523
Research on what? Googling why do homos not socialize?
Nigga, I'm answering post the whole time. Say it or don't. don't have time to do a research when I even don't know what to look for.
>>708698099 (you)
test
>>708698045
Okay, so Autism, I see. Life consists of a series of small and large concessions we make to relate to others. People met and interacted with are not all going to be like mum is/was.
You meet in the middle with people to share experience and make connections and conversations. In the midst of this, you also share pieces of yourself and your personal thoughts dreams etc.
People pay therapists a lot of money for this exact reason, so that they can talk about only the things they want to talk about without interruption.
I don't know how old you are, but I was a kid in the 80s. There was no internet, no 4chan, no tinder. You had to make or break all of your personal relationships with the people you could meet or find in your personal vicininty.
This era is very easy in my opinion, you can reach out across the world to find people that share very obscure interests.
However, you miss the random human element, eyes locked across a smoky bar, bumping into a girl and accidentally knocking her groceries out of her arms, etc. The cinematic element that occurs in real life without online interaction.
>>708697855
>My point is that OP's situation is a result of a more isolated era where conversation is not as essential as it once was.
OP here, this is true. But I don't see the possibility to break this by adapting to the system.
>>708698069
>after a while being a socialfag you realize no one's really your friend anyways
that's why I have never had real friends in first place.
>>708682306
Kek. Good one
>>708698977
>adapting to the system.
Don't "survive", THRIVE
>>708699531
i poop everyday
>>708677353
I'm not a man and I haven't had any conversation with anyone for the last 2 months. I don't have any friends, male or female. Although I found females are a lot easier to talk to than males. I don't feel lonely since it has been like this since middle school, if I really wanted friends I would have done something about it. For now spending all my time on schoolwork and preparing for grad school seems vary fulfilling.
>>708698977
For fuck's sake what are you trying to express? You started to talk about meeting a partner, you can share images of what you look like, and waht your interests are with people all around the world and find one of them you want to fuck and who wants to fuck you. Maybe even wants to hang around you after the fucking is done, is that so hard to grasp? This is your thread, not mine. You are asking all of us for help...
>>708700012
Ditto on everything (except I'm a dude). Grad school inbound.
What're you studying?
>>708676091
online dating
you can browse people's profiles and find out what they are into before even speaking to them, allowing you to pick people you think may be compatible
>>708698977
And most important of all, remember that you are not as unique as you think you are. Out there, somewhere, is someone just like you, with all of the same problems and awkwardness, and thanks to the internet, you can actually stand a chance of finding and meeting them.
I can only imagine it's insanely difficult to talk to girls in america. I'm beta as fuck, pretty sure i've got klinefelters but i'm still able to punch above my weight with girls. literally everyone says i'm the funniest person they know though so i'm sure that helps. glad i'm from UK. and yes i do have shit teeth
>>708700012
tits or gtfo
>>708700325
Math. You?
>>708700618
Nice. Going to do physics. Getting a math + physics bachelor's, though.
>>708700543
> and yes I do have shit teeth
Kek
>>708700810
That's nice. I was going to get a CS and math double major but had to drop CS so I can graduate early. Anyways, good luck to you.
>>708698967
>so Autism
just for the record: I'm not autistic. I even thought for a long time I was but as I wrote above I took acting lessen and was pretty good at it. I'm good at reading facial expressions and body language. I also seem to express desinterest through my own expression because people realize very fast when I'm bored by their shit
>You meet in the middle with people to share experience and make connections and conversations.
Meeting people is the whole problem. Like I said I don't have any problems of any kind around other people. I do not stutter, not mubmle, not spit, do not run out of words. I just don't have any place to meet people in first place.
>I don't know how old you are
25, I thought I mentioned this somewhere. And I still remember the late 90s early 2000s where internet wasn't that big. And this times were much easier to socialize with other people.
> you miss the random human element, eyes locked across a smoky bar, bumping into a girl and accidentally knocking her groceries out of her arms, etc.
I went twice into a bar for the sole purpose to talk to people. Ended both time with having a few bears at the bar, chatting a bit to the bartender and then leaving because they people there seemed like complete idiot. And this wasn't just the looks. I also heard their loud convo and I can assure you this was amongst the most utter shit I've ever heard in my life.
And for the other part: How do people start conversations in a grocery store anyways:
>Hi Miss. Can you tell me where these cucumbers are? You know the really big ones?
>Aisle 6
>well, thanks
that's all.
>>708699531
>don't have daily routines
>have few things that make me happy
>no matches on lists
>>708701416
Autism + my friend. I am assuming this bar is in bumfuck arkansaw or something right? Are you kidding? You thought a 'hilarious' comment about cucumbers would be a conversation starter with some chick? You said you read my post right? Like the bit where I said don't be creepy, keep spaghetti to a minimum? Unless you are Orlando Bloom or you have some capacity to grab em by the pussy, that is a total fail. Also, you need to try many different bars, or go to a bar specifically tailored to hookups or singles.
>>708682822
op's not trying to get fucked by other dudes
>>708700073
>You started to talk about meeting a partner
maybe I wrote that. But I forgot to mention that the whole internet dating thing is not an option. reasons I stated somewhere above.
So it should be: How do I approach people these days. Where? What topics for a convo? etc.
>>708682876
seconded
>>708701416
It is dripping off of you in waves, even if you are only mildly afflicted. But that is further to the point I am making. There are tons of chicks out there who are just the same, and they are lonely too.
>>708702487
What are you most interested in? What are your goals in life?
>>708700419
yes, because people don't lie in their profiles
>yes I'm a huge music enthusiast...but what is this Lep Zeplin?
>>708701320
Gl to you too.
>>708678610
99%of women are insufferable cunts
>>708700486
yeah, they are browsing 4chan. Sometimes I wonder if the desperate femanons here know that when we all meet up they could get fucked by like 30 virgins each.
>>708702816
This is bullshit. Re-educate yourself before your lonely death.
>>708676091
Kys
>>708702949
Re-educate myself cause you like having cunt friends?
Go to a country bar get drunk and ask drunker girls to dance. I do this every other weekend and it gets me laid and it's also how i learned to twostep.
>>708702905
Of course they know that, but they are afflicted by the same tortures that you are. Think of a bunch of people who are all locked in a dark room, all to afraid to actually reach out and see if anyone else is there.
Besides, women can get fucked by simply taking their top off in public. The thing is, most of them want more than that, and don't want to be hurt/abused/afraid.
>>708676091
>sorry bud I can't help you
I'm literally jizzing from my eyes this is so great
>>708703280
No, you drop the shitty people from your life, and try to find the good ones. Scumbaggery comes in both genders, in huge supply. You will easily find that the majority of terrible people inn the world are mostly male, with a few females thrown in for good measure.
>>708678539
Is it bad that this makes me wanna be jack the ripper
>>708703435
It is a fucking hilarious line, but not necessarily true. Unless OP is hiding some terrible secret about his appearance...
>>708701129
not horrendous tbh
>>708679488
ANSWER...KILL EVERYONE THAT DOESN'T AGREE WITH YOU AND EAT THEIR FLESH FOR SUSTENANCE
>>708703638
>femenist spotted
>abandoning thread
>>708702041
>bumfuck arkansaw or something right
No multicultural shithole in the centre of Europe where you literally have to watch your back.
>You thought a 'hilarious' comment about cucumbers would be a conversation starter with some chick?
This was made up because I have never - literally never - had a conversation with a woman. Okay, when there is a female cashier at the market of course it's the How much is it? Okay, thanks! and such but I book this under professional convo because it's just about the money transfer in exchange for wares.
>You said you read my post right? Like the bit where I said don't be creepy, keep spaghetti to a minimum?
You remember that I didn't do anything yet? Not being creepy is an advice straight out of a self-help book.
So, what exactly regular people like to talk about because the cucumber jokes is the best thing came to my mind that at least everybody would understand. I just don't know any of the real-life social life memes. That's basically the whole problem.
>>708703915
maybe lose the cheesy grin, and also grow the jewfro out a bit, or a lot. Get some unique style going there.
>>708681857
Eh, I tried dating one of my sister's friends. Did not turn out well at all. Don't automatically count on it.
>>708704145
I am a feminist as much as any man can be in that I like women. They can be hard to like, but not that hard. I have been with my girl for nearly 10 years. She is slim, fit, she likes metal & gipsy music and many other styles, she is smart, honest, loyal, principled, and tough. I think that makes me qualified to comment? Tell us about your fictional girlfriend why don't you?
You do realise, OP started a thread asking for advice to get a woman, not condemn them all;
>>708702423
judging by the pic beard-man is femme either way. But I'm not trying to fuck other dudes in the ass.
>>708702527
Yeah but in chick this kind of autism is cute. Males are just fucked...or better forever unfucked.
>>708704157
Yeah but you posted as though you did say what you poted here, so I am basing my comments on that, but even if you didn't you were still thinking it. Which is also fairly autist. Look, next time, make a joke, if it is a lame shitty joke, and she makes an effort to laugh, that means she is ultra polite, or she is terrified of you, OR, she might actually like you and be receptive to your attentions. If she completely is oblivious to you, then move on and try again. No one ever said that courting is easy. It is equal parts luck and skill.
>>708702658
goals: family
interest: almost everything you can do alone or together
absolutely hate: everything that requires an interaction with a huge mass of people.
I can go into a mass to meet someone. But this someone can't expect me to go there for fun.
>>708705079
This is called being an introvert. There is nothing wrong with that, and there are many women who are the same way. You can find plenty of them. They are also lonely and awkward.
>>708703417
drunk girls are the most disgusting thing ever. Even the smart ones act like complete imbeciles.
>>708705079
Also, why is it that you say online 'dating' is not an option? Of course it is, you make a profile staing the kind of movies, music, art, games, sport, etc that you like, you tell a little bit about yourself, you find other chicks who think the same way, what is so hard?
>>708704182
the grin was to show my teeth(which i obviously hide all the time)
can't defend the israel haircut though
>>708693924
I do know the feeling. It's disconcerting, alienating and depressing.
Given conversation is like 75% of my job, here's a few protips with regards to small talk:
1. Ask open ended questions that can't be answered with one word or automatic responses. 'How's your day', and other pleasantries generate auto-responses in people due to the fact they encounter them all the time. Your goal is to get a conversation started, not give a passing greeting in a hall.
2. Listen. People are selfish cunts (you aren't excluded either), and love to talk about themselves (see all social media for proof). Listening is actually a pretty hard skill for many, so practice both in and out of conversations. Coupled with reading, you can work to build mental models for others (safe topics, hot topics, topics to avoid, etc.), and this will greatly improve your conversational skill.
3. NEVER REVEAL YOUR POWER LEVEL. NEVER. Revealing your power level results in a spaghetti explosion that will immediately tank the conversation. Only reveal your interests AFTER you have detected the person you are conversing with likes it as well. You can test the waters by casually mentioning things related to it to see if they take the bait. If they ignore it, DO NOT REVEAL YOUR POWER LEVEL.
>>708703853
The dude who posted this did a folder dump. There were much worse thing.
Go to 4 plebs and look for Eliot Roger on pol. And then look in the bottom half for the poster with a polan flag.
>>708703896
nah, no facial features. It's just the way I asked him how to meet people. When I everytime asked what convo do I do with people I have nothing in common he suggested this probably thinking I have at least "facebook friends" or something. When he heard that I try to be on the internet entirely anonymous he gave up.
>>708677353
how do you find people to listen to who are actually people you care to know more about?
for instance, all my co-workers are old enough to be my parents.
>>708705382
No they aren't, no they don't.
All people are equally shit.
Jim Morrison's lyric is good to remember, "Women seem wicked, when you're not wanted". The most profound thing he ever wrote really,>>708705687
>>708704321
wouldn't count on it. I'm not afraid of being turned down. But If I approach women in the supermarket with my cucumbers joke, being turned down would be my least concern.
>>708705687
THis is great advice, on top of this I can only say don't think that you are a replicant and they are Deckard. They are human as well, as much as a woman ever can be. Reveal pieces of yourself and find common ground, this will gradually become a conversation, and after a while you will wonder what you were even nervous about to begin with.
>>708704959
I told you I am not an autist. I don't feel offended but if you're going to give me the same advices you'd give to an autism I think this want work. Because a autist two main problems are - according to my knowledge - unable to read/express emotion and unable to understand the subtext of something said.
I can both, and I'm pretty good in doing so.
>or she is terrified of you
this is the most likely case because this is also how people react at parties even without me trying to flirt with them.
>>708705302
yes, but that's the question: Where do they hang out and how do you approach them?
>>708703638
This is largely untrue. Only about 1-5% of the men I have met over my life have been total assholes. The same runs true for women, with about 1-5% of them being total bitches.
Humans have a built in negativity bias, so that 5% of people are FAR more memorable because they are assholes. You don't remember the random Joe and Jane who interacted with you nicely, you remember the Mr. Asshole and Ms. Cunt because they ruined your day/week/year.
Then you get caught in a negative feedback loop, and if you don't have shining examples of good people in your life, you keep drilling down and assume all are assholes, and become one yourself because you have assumed everyone already is one.
>>708705598
I can see from the comments you have posted where the problem lies OP. You are being a giant pussy. They are out there, you are not doing what you can to find them.
Just grab your balls in your hand, to quote Shakespeare, screw your courage to the sticking post, and go find one.
Not one attempt, it can take many. It can take years, or, it can take days, or only hours, minutes.
If you were starving, you would not say I can't find any food i give up, who cares. You would persevere because you were starved. Love and or sex the same way. Keep at it, or narrow the field of difficulty by finding someone online who is just like you.
You fuckers seem to think there are no female equivalents to neckbeards, there are tons of them, even if you have to lower your standards. Not every guy winds up with a chick who looks like thier fantasy dreamgirl, I think it is better to have a good one than a gorgeous one.
>>708705587
The point is: The other anon told me to make an online profile. He said to work on th personal data t not appear creepy.
nothing wrong with it so far
But if I do it why shoudn't I assume that the girl does it too? And lies on both sides don't equal a perfect match.
It's like when a chick says she loves movies and then turns out she has seen LotR and the Twilight saga like 20 times.
>>708707128
Yeah but it's really easy to discern the difference bud, which is why I mention Autism, because you somehow don't know this shit.
One of the hallmarks of Autism is inability to read social cues, to understand what people mean in a non-verbal way.,
You ask, casually, politely would you like to go to blah blah blah with me, or can you give me your phone number? You are really pretty, intelligent, fascinating, whatever.
That is how you know most of the time.
If a chick gives you her number, but then acts like you are a telemarketer when you call her, that means she only gave it to you to be polite, to not hurt your feelings.
But in most cases, a girl will just give you a fake phone number. You should never ask for her phone number and then call it right in front to f her to make sure you have it, because you lose the wiggle room.
>>708707352
Online you giant dickhead, where all the other intorverts meet on their only tightarse terms.
>>708705687
>1. Ask open ended questions that can't be answered with one word or automatic responses.
This sounds reasonable but you're example is shit. How was your day! is literally the question I always answer just with the word: good (even if it was bad).
>Listen
I can listen. I always listen very carefully to people to later call them out on the bullshit they are saying. I usually let people talk because people who talk are more likely of making mistakes.
>safe topics, hot topics, topics to avoid, etc
but what are they? I don't understand stupid people's preferences. While facebook maybe a safe topic to them it will most likely trigger myself.
>>708707361
Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, Genghis Khan, Gilles De Rais, Ayotolah Khomeni, etc. Do you have very many females to add to the list?
>>708706210
for my experience female turn into little kids laughing at literally everything and interrupting every serious debate while males turn into cavemen.
But that's just my experiece.
>>708708985
Sure, you get dumb, or socially inept people everywhere you go. That is an aspect of life. But you will also find, often, that people have something worthwhile to add, even if they are not that bright. It is important to be adaptable. You will meet many people in this world that you do not like or respect, but you can still gain much from nearly all social interactions.
>>708706526
Haven't seen the movie for ages but wasn't it intended that Deckert was a replicant himself?
Besides that:
I'm not afraid of woman because I know they cannot harm me
I'm not afraid to be turned down.
The problem is after an exchange of Hi there is nothing I have to talk about.
>>708707547
No post you were replying to was actually OP. just saying.
source: I'm OP
>>708707547
i am not OP, i posted to show the fact that even i, an ugly brit, can find girls.
>>708709350
Yeah but Ridley jumped the shark a long time ago, he has not made good films in a long time. Blade Runner 2 is going to be Star Wars the force awakens for sure. Just like Prometheus was crap.
You can pretty much assume whatever Ridley said was shit. It is meant to be ambiguous whether or not Deckard is a replicant, just as they should have left it. Even if they make another film, both cases, (replicant or not) are equally compelling.
>>708708438
normies meet fucking online. get your facts straight I'm not integrated in the normie cummunity because I am online non-existent.
>>708709624
Yeah I get it, but there are plenty of OPs on here, I am just trying to give universal advice because I don't like to see wasted life potential, many people die trying, when there is no need.
>>708709915
And yet here you are tough guy, the matrix has you.
>>708708292
>to read social cues, to understand what people mean in a non-verbal way
I thought I stated that I am able to read body language, facial expressions, subtext between said words. If you gonna teach me on this, this is going into the wrong direction.
But maybe I am just wonrg and don't understand what social cues are.
>can you give me your phone number
can'timagine this works. This is grade a creep material tbh. after not even speaking to sentences asking for phone number.
Let's put it that way: Not even I would give my number to a girl that walks straight to me and asks this as the first question.
>intelligent, fascinating
This is plain lies. I'm shit at lying.
>You should never ask for her phone number and then call it right in front to f her to make sure you have it, because you lose the wiggle room.
Maybe because it's late already but I don't understand this sentence.
>>708708692
Yes, that example was shit. That was it's purpose, it is a typical auto-greet thing people say. Here is an example of a better open ended question:
> What do you think about X?
> I heard X just opened up, have you been there?
> I'm looking for a good place for X, do you know any?
BTW, open ended questions aren't foolproof, if people are not being responsive it generally is an indication that they don't have either the time or the desire to talk to you. Don't take it personally when anyone brushes you off, and take the hint if they are being unresponsive.
You should NOT call people out on their bullshit unless you want to destroy relationships. People don't take to criticism lightly, and being a hard-ass about facts/figures/ideas will cause friction in conversations. Do not get this confused with professional responsibility to be correct. Convincing people to change their mind on a topic they are wrong about is a VERY advanced skill.
Topics to avoid are easy, pretty much every thread here on 4chan is an example of a topic to avoid. Anything people get real fired up over is something to avoid when getting to know people.
For more info, this blog has plenty of self help topics on conversation among other things:
artofmanliness.com
He has more comprehensive, research backed type guides, tips and advice. Just search small talk for the various posts to get them.
>>708708777
so many good convos but every single one would break the Power Level rule.
>>708709722
dude are you the one from the third or fourth reply?
>>708709993
Bottom line is simple, simpler than it ever has been in human history, for any or all of you pussies, male or female, fat or thin.
You either go out into society and charm someone, or you carefully cultivate your online presence to meld with someone in a more meaningful way. Sometimes you need to adjust your expectations, depending on who, how you are. If you are a fat greasy neckbeard, you may not get that chick who looks like Lea or Chloe, but it is better to have a partner who actually likes you or loves you. Sex feels great when the lights are turned off, no matter what they look like.
If you are into rocketry, try some NAR events and shit.
>>708710896
This is grade A not creep material. It is creep material when they say no, and you do not accept no.
Can I have your phone number because XYZ?
No you cannot.
Okay, nice to meet you have a great day, I love your hair/neckscarf, bandanna, band. poem, etc.
>>708709753
This is surprisingly essential for the topic
>Prometheus
>TFA
and other shit like Total Recall and Robocop remake.
Everybody who "likes movies" finds them great because they're great entertaiment. But when I state infront of everyone what I think of this movie and elaborate based on facts on original films then it comes:
>well, maybe...let's change the subject.
>>708711353
lmao beta faggot
>>708711778
lel creep
"hey give me your phone number"
"no"
"no prob"
also
>implying getting a number means anything these days
>>708710432
small difference is that we don't meet up in reality to head over to a sausage party
Just interact with one am ugly one and then work your way up the food chain simple as that keep trading up
>>708679754
what movie is this from?
>>708712191
what if you fuck decent girls but you can get a fatty. What if said fatty is eager to please and she will let you do all kinds of degrading shit to her? While still fucking hotter grills.
>>708711014
That example was not shit. Do not denigrate yourself. Have self esteeem. If the person likes you, they will open up. Also, even if they do not care about you one way or another, they might still open up if they really need someone to talk to.
An even better way to go, in my humble opinion, is to tailor it a little more specifically, say for example-
Did anything interesting happen today?
Hey, anyrthing good happening tonight?
OR if you can't pull this line off without sounding creepy, a more specific version like - any good bands/djs playing tonight?
I was going to go see this art exhibition tonight, but I could'n t find where the gallery was, I gave up in the end
Lol. This board is not just lame asses. Alot of us just lurk bcuz this place is fuckin hilarious and different. I have a shit storm of people who want to see me though my free time is limited. I have money. Im funny and outgoing. All because i dont consider myself an anon. You do. You let this place define you. So it did. Fucking go outside.
>>708711014
> What do you think about X?
> I heard X just opened up, have you been there?
> I'm looking for a good place for X, do you know any?
Even without the intention to disprove your statement I must honestly say the last to question I would answer in a word or a short sentence, while the first one I would either say "I don't care" if I really don't or giving precise explanation what I think and why usually resulting in people get confused or desinterested,
>>708711960
Yeah it means a lot these days, because if they don't like you, they willl not give you their number, if you have a mobile, you can probably tell instantly if they like you or not.
>>708712012
Why not? Afraid?
>>708711778
yes somewhat what >>708711960 wrote.
In addion I would choke on making up a reason XYZ because if consider it: there is reason why I need her number which is indicated by "because".
>>708712978
They give out their number to anyone who doesn't look like a killer just to avoid awkward situations. There's a still a long road to go to fuck them. Same with setting up dates a week away and then flaking. That's why you need to play fast. If you hit it off with a girl try to escalate asap, don't linger waiting for a date and all the formalities. Bitches love spontaneity and assertiveness, that's why they're always going on about being swept away in the moment.
>>708712647
Cool story NeckBeard. How about a couple of pics of you fucking your japanese throw pillow to round out your awesome post?
>>708713158
NO you don't need an excuse. You want her number and you both know why. Don't be a bitch about it. Always give them an option yes or no. Never beg, negotiate or hide your intentions
>>708712783
>Overthinking bullshit. You will know whether they are interested or not by how engaged they are with what you say.
>>708713596
ITT a bunch of autismo's
>>708713340
Yeah, you gauge the situation. If they actually do not have time to engage, like they have to start a shift or whatever, they may give you their number. If they are chomping at the bit, they can make it fairly obvious. Sometimes inbetween. It takes subtlety to deal with women.
>>708713491
It's still like this guy wrote >>708711960
I mean if it's not literally - and this time I actually mean literally - what I'm supposed say then I need to know. Because I can't think off things which I've never experienced and which don't derive from a rational though.
And to me asking someone on the street is kinda creepy.
>>708713891
plausible deniability with words is good, as long as you send the correct message with your body language
I have one best friend and he has a girlfriend. She has a ton of friends but him and I get each other more than anyone else. We can joke about shit that would put off anyone else. We also dont judge each other. We just never get sentimental with shit, just true buds.
Ill find a gf sometime, but for now, thats all i need. Im not willing to settle with a fatass, angry bitch like he did.
>>708714022
well duh why bother asking a chick who is on her way somewhere. Go places where chicks come to have fun, socialiste and drink. The girl who ignored you during the day would be all over you at night. Day game can be pulled off if you play it right tho
>>708713158
It does not matter what you say really, sometimes what you say may charm the other person, sometimes they may not need any charming because they are already willing to proceed.
Bottom line, politely verbally attempting to seduce a woman or man, is not, nor ever will be illegal or creepy. No matter what Alt-Right dickheads on here tell you. What iscreepy is not accepting NO the first time, for any reason.
It is also okay to try and convince or seduce a women a second or third time, but only verbally, and only in a non threatening way.
