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what's phychology or science behind guys who choose to be trap? what makes them decide to turn into trappy-mode; thus become traps?

i know how being transsexual works: i don't wonder why guys who are born with opposite body want to become girls.

but i know 99.9% of traps don't feel this way; thus they aren't born in wrong body. most of them are heterosexual males with no real reason to start living as a girl.

i know they are just like random guys.
so then what makes them choose to still become traps?
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Attention. Literally only that.
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>>707981345
i don't think so
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Fuckin horny fuckers, thats why
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>>707981658
we are horny too, then.
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>>707981218
for most its a fetish since 80 % are attracted to women. trutrans are women mentally and the only way not to kill themself is taking HRT and surgeries.
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met a kinda cute guy at a party yesterday, said he liked crossdressing, showed me pictures.
honestly looked pretty girly in a skirt
should I hit it, /b/?
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>>707982132
you want to stay a virgin forever?
he might not want you to fuck him btw
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They think it is the only way they can love themselves and have others love them. It's a natural consequence of the demonization of masculinity. Males take on feminine traits just to be liked.
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>>707981218
Girls are pretty, boys aren't.

Why not try to look more girly then?
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>>707981345
This
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>>707982198
no, he's interested alright.
never tried anything with a dude before though
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>>707982225
i think it's a little more complex than that.
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>>707982578
If you have a fear of dicks like some people who ask these kinds of questions, don't bother (him) with it.

Otherwise, sure, go for it.
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>>707981218
It's called being a faggot. Simple as that.
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They fail having sex with women.
Eventually they get used to the idea of becoming women themselves.
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>>707982132
I would
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https://kageshi.com/rooms/penis
trap fucking herself rn
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>>707981218
for me the reason was 4chan

being on here at a young age, becoming numb to normal porn, slowly sinking into more deviant porn, eventually traps were all over /b/, im already pretty, feminine, slim/sleek face etc. eventually i wanted a better orgasm, one that would make me act like the girls ive fucked, wriggling and moaning because they couldnt keep quiet from the pleasure. thats what i wanted, so i bought a dildo - it never made me cum, so i got a bigger one - it also didnt work, so i fucked a guy - also didnt work.

and now i hate myself.
ive said this before in one of these threads but if anyone is reading this around 15/16 years old beware that your mind really can be manipulated by what you view online and you are not immune to it.
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>>707982902
Would fuck that so good
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>>707983332
Hahaha
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>>707981218
I crossdress because it feels cute and sexy at the same time. Im bisexual, i just have fun. I dont need to be a girl, just act like one from time to time.
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>>707983332
How old are you?
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>>707983332
>for me the reason was 4chan

same here
but I don't hate myself, why should I? I just tried something that wasn't as good as expected
I don't enjoy sex with men but still get really horny in my gfs panties, and she says I'm really cute so I'll keep wearing them

>pic somehow related, not OC
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>>707983887
A lot of girls enjoy a cute guy in panties and socks... Whats not to like, its adorable and kinky
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>>707983686
im mid 20s now i started trapping here when i was around 14.

there wasnt trap threads they just thought i was a girl. it was a game that got out of hand and now im sat here typing to you guys that there is no need to become a faggot like that just because you are surrounding yourself with faggots by choice.

the stuff you scroll past is not good for you and /b/ really has degraded, it was better and now its worse and anyone that thinks otherwise is a massive faglord and should off themselves.
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>>707983887
When you and ur gf break up she's gonna tell everyone and everyone's gonna think ur a faggot
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>>707983332
huh. Same with wanting a better orgasm and getting the dildos, except the bigger one actually does make me cum. Took a bit of experimenting with positions though

final verdict: feels good, but honestly not a whole lot better than just jacking off, and basically no better than using a fleshlite. You would realyl really have to be into the idea behind it for it to be worth it, for me I don't think it is really worth it.
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Some people get off wearing diapers and pretending to be babies, some wear leather and want to be spanked.
I like wearing lingerie, female clothing, sucking dick and getting fucked. It's just roleplaying and I'm not a female trapped in a man's body. It's just something I enjoy.
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>>707984227
What made you change your mind? Did someone find out?
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>>707984227
/b/ was better a few years ago but do you mean there are more trap threads now and that's why it's worse?

Did you ever think about starting hormones?
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>>707983887
>not OC
shame on you!!
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>>707984590
Hormones will make you crazier than ever and end up depressed after a couple of years
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>>707984229
and what's the problem with that? I mean... should I stop enjoying my fetish just because someone would think I'm a faggot? grow the fuck up man, life is short so do what the fuck you want before it's too late
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>>707984182
>>707983650
more?
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>>707984229
You sound quite concerned.
Is there something you would like to tell us?
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>>707984432
the walk home from meeting a guy, sat on a bench crying in the rain, i can still smell him when i get home through my damp clothes, get in shower and vomit.

>>707984590
>thats why its worse

thats not "why" its worse, its just a part of the problem, every single thread that has a cookie cutter design is bad for the board. its a random board so why do we see the same things again and again?

there was no trap threads then because traps were a bad thing, they were just guys pretending to be girls for luls and trap threads were only known to be traps when it was too late for the faggot anons who were fapping to him.

>horemones
no i never considered it never would
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>>707981218
Well, honestly, I'd totally choose to be a woman if I could.
That's not to say I'd be a tranny. For me, modifying my body wouldn't mean anything. Like I'd want the experience of growing up and living as a woman my entire life with all the shit that comes along with it.
But, since I wouldn't fuck my body over, if I COULD pass as a woman (6"3', voice like Barry White, shoulders as broad as a fucking rhino, built as a linebacker... not happening), I totally would get dressed up to have that experience for a night.
Not that I'd pick up guys or anything but we all know it feels damn good to have someone flirt with you and women get that 50x more than men do.
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>>707985020
Found out the hard way youre not gay... Sorry that it ended up like that but now youre more than sure about your preferences
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>>707983095
this pretty much true - was fat and decided id look better as a chubby trap
>>707982255
this too. girls are hotter, i fap to girls, why not be one and fap to myself too
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>>707984817
I wouldn't like to go to the grocery store and some one point and say "hey that's that dude that dresses up like a girl and gets fucked in the ass" but hey whatever floats your boat faggot
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>>707985254
i think about it every day, honestly it feels like i was raped but obviously not - my mind was raped by prolonged exposure to /b/ and the resounding faggotry that exists here.
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>>707985207
Add:
Also women are just hot... For a man's body to be considered hot he's got to be cut and bulky as hell.
Women, though, just look nice. A chubby girl with a mostly flat ass and small tits still is more attractive than your "Garry Everyman"
And women agree with that. Women are more attracted to women because they simply are more attractive.
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>>707983095
I have sex with a woman a few times a week, and I'm a trap. Sorry, does that hurt your delusion? That I'm in love and live with my girl friend but also am blocking testosterone to look more feminine??
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>>707983650
>>707984182
>>707985254
is that you?
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>>707985207
They flirt with you if you look good or if they are desperate like most guys on /b/... Dont think everyone thinks the same as here
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>>707985379
Good thing you can choose to repress certain sides of you to avoid such unlikely situations.

You seem to be awfully paranoid about those things tho.
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>>707985379
>caring about the opinion of strangers
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plus i look much better as a fat trap
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>>707985524
Have you ever been to a bar? Girls get hit on constantly And the point of a trap is they can't really tell you're a guy.
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>>707985451
Ah gee, im so sorry for what happened to you... We tend to remember only the negative things, but i hope you can forget that chapter of your life soon...
>>707985503
Yes its me
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>>707981218
Maximum Beta levels + Lack of Attention
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Samefag
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>>707981218
You're confusing traps with crossdressers.

Traps are usually passable because of the hormones and practice they get while living as a girl every day (makeup, normal clothing instead of just lingerie or striped socks, etc)

Crossdressers usually do it to fulfill a fetish they have for the clothing or a desire to be seen as a girl but they def don't try to be one every day. Its like a frequent wearing of a costume and trying to do their best with that role.

Trans girls have gender dysphoria, body dysphoria, and thats why they do it. It helps us feel normal and "right".
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>>707985482
>>707985482
By "having sex with a women" you mean getting fucked in the ass with a strap on
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>>707985751
then hi, maya, and thanks for posting
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>>707985708
I dont dress up in public. I dont look that much like a girl. I get hit on anyways cus girls think im cute and boys can tell im not super straight...
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>>707985451
Stop hanging around in trap threads and confronting yourself with it idiot. You made a mistake, you know better now, let it go and move on.
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>>707982132
Anons being gay again
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>>707985913
Hi there, erm, you... Sorry no NS on phone
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>>707983317
>herself
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>>707985690
>Carrying about a random person on the internets opinion
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>>707982132
yes, why the fuck not
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>>707985904
We do that too, but not often. I prefer real cock, which she lets me have

That's why I love her so much
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>>707985918
I feel like im obliged to let people know that being around this shit can cause some serious repercussions in someones life.
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>>707985806
This guy gets it, so many still mix terms up or put everything in the same category
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>>707986042
not nameposting, that got old
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>>707981218
Traps are fetishism.

People who want to transition do so purely as a result of societal cues and norms. They want to fit into the mold of what our culture says is normal for x or y gender. It's insecurity and shame that drives it.

If you took someone who transitioned in modern day, but instead they were born into the wild alone without culture, they would have no desire to transition because they don't have the social construct of gender in the first place.
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>>707981218
For me, it's a fetish for being turned into a slut through pleasure.
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>>707986267
im a trans girl :)
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>>707986225
Repercussions?

What, like burying your desires to protect yourself from the dangers of somebody else's opinion? Ooooooh nooooooo~

Quick, flee 4 chan! Before it's too late! Why do these people choose to live life /differently/ than I?? Aaaaaa
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>>707982011
But the suicide rate doesn't change after HRT and surgery?
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>>707986410
Probably because everybody bullies them for changing? Doesn't take a genius
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>>707986225
It made me realize that I like dicks more than vaginas as long as the owner is somewhat feminine looking.

I also envy pretty girls for their looks now.

Still wouldn't want it any other way.
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>>707986042

how do you in particular remove all the hair in your bikini area? having some trouble, want advice from the source!
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>>707981218
I've been playing with my prostate since i was about 9 years old. I'm mostly straight but getting dressed up and getting a guy to nail you like a chick will make you cum so fucking hard that you get addicted to doing it. I still like women but I cant resist getting fucked like that... its like heroin, but like heroin some drugs just dont hit everybody the same and some wont like it.
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>>707986507
Or maybe it's because it's a mental illness that needs to be treated instead of praised and encouraged.
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I think we've all fapped ourselves into insanity. Not literally but after a long time of fapping constantly we begin to desire something different (i went from foot fetishist, to trap feet and such)

Combine this with loneliness, and the desire to feel Sexy and attractive; instead of being a powerlifter and trying to get swoll for normal women, we skip the middleman and fap at ourselves in the mirror because we think we look hot and it's good.
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>>707986369
Thats pretty nice, hope you get all the boys you want!
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>>707986042
>>707985751
>>707985524
>>707985254
How the fuck do you guys stay so smooth?
I spend 2 hours shaving and end up with stubble a day later.
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I totally "forgot" that i use to pretend to be bi when i was a teenage
trap threads made me remember that; i kinda prefer crossdressers over trap/trans tbh, so i guess I'm more gay than bi
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>>707986638
Like homosexuality...oh wait that stopped being classified years ago because people realised what a fucking stupid idea that was.
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>>707986659
I NEVER had the desire to look manly or muscly.

Trap threads just helped me to realize what that thing was that I've always wanted.
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>>707986398
you are a fucking retard if you think that there arn't kids on here who are being subjected to this, who scroll past this every day and slowly become more and more at home with it - i am living proof of that and i dont want anyone else to go through what i went through. if you want to be a girl go ahead feel free do your shit but young minds are fragile and if there are young people here who are looking for something to become, something to do with their lives then they are ready to be moulded. the same with /pol/ breeding pollacks if you are surrounded you will adapt.
you're a fucking idiot or a shill an hero

>>707986561
good for you and im sure there are many who are very happy in the same way but there are for sure other people who could have a similar experience to mine and if they read my post then my job is done.
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>>707986754
Am I kawaii? Uguu~~
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>>707986586
I shave my pubes and use nair cream on my rear.
The thing that you should know is that i dont look that good everyday, no one does unless they got lazered off. After 4 days my hair grows back there...
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>>707986914
This is an 18+ board, so no one should be modifying their behaviour because "think of the children".
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>>707986754
See>>707987067
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>>707986898
Homosexuality is a sexual preference.

Gender dysphoria is the belief that you are something that you literally are not.
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>>707987198
sexuality is a spectrum
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>>707987093
Except that I know there are kids here probably a lot more than there used to be aswell, and that I am choosing to do this myself, im not asking anyone else to do anything you anal bead.
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>>707986624
I went through a period for a few years where I did lots of anal play. Eventually I grew out of it and realized that prostate orgasms were bullshit, it was purely the excitement from my tranny fetish that drove the orgasms. Anal play still feels good, but now that I'm not into traps as much it feels quite pointless.
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>>707986948
yeah little slut
now go whoring yourself on the usual trap threads
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>>707987493
Is this not the usual trap thread?
Looks like a thinly veiled trap thread to me.
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>>707986914
kids needs to face reality, they'll be fine: either they're disgusted, or discover that they like different things.
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>>707987198
>Homosexuality is a sexual preference

No. Not even close.
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>>707987680
Why not?
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With me 4chan made an underlying issue something that bubbled up into my normal life and thinking.

I've always been a fem guy, and have liked cute things. Being exposed to traps and cd stuff made me go "wait, I can do this and look good too?" There are times I honestly wish I was a girl, and I've seriously considered taking the step to take hormones and the full jazz(fuck srs tho).

I haven't because I like wouldn't make a believable girl, nor much of an attractive one. Maybe if I had realized this when I was 18 or so my life now wouldn't suck so much.
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>>707987611
>Is this not the usual trap thread?
not enough reposts of year-old pix

anyway, traps should post more OC..
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>>707987643
No, that is not true.

Fuck yourself you trap shilling retard just because you want fap material doesn't mean kids need to be subjected to anything.

Doesn't mean anyone needs to be subjected to anything. The whole nature of this website preceeds trapping.
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>>707987725

Almost exactly the same for me.
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>>707983332
I actually just ordered my first toys on amazon. prob going to make a thread when they get here. I know it's gay but i'm comfortable with myself and I want to try anal play that doesn't involve fingers. I always thought fingers were awkward
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I always get called a bigot by the faggot circle jerk whenever I talk about gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria is a non-satisfaction with the physical self so they change it with modern technology. Transgenderism implies that one can be born a different gender than what their chromosomes dictate. Gender identity is a social construct, and saying that you are different than what you are biologically is as valid than it would for me to say that I am a fox in a human's body.
>tl; dr: faggots are delusional
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>>707987905
Its not an issue with being gay or doing gay things its an issue that people subconsiously adapt to what they surround themselves with and if you spend a lot of time on a board with lots of trap threads, or on /gif/ with the massive amount of trap and gay porn the fact of the matter is it is going to affect the population and people need to not be blind to this.
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>>707987680
It literally is.
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>>707981345
This. Humans wan't to be desired and as a man you will rarely experience that. Everybody likes women and nobody likes men, so it's really understandable.
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>>707987885
Obviously you don't know history very well.
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>>707988172
I actually do spend a decent amount of time on /b/ and /gif/....

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>707988422
How about beauty.
The desire to be pretty?

Not just for others (attention) but for yourself too.
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>>707988245
Please explain
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>>707987905
Fingers are awkward man I always use toys.
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>>707988588
how do you figure that?

>>707988609
your brain is constantly rewiring itself to become adapted to the environment you subject yourself too.
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>>707987680
Are...... you..... a..... retarded..... person?
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>>707988785
I'm glad someone agrees. They're just weird.

>>707988806
Yeah I get what you're saying.
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>>707988806
Trapping predates the Internet, how can /b/ predate trapping.
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Hey, 4chan
Where can I find a partner (master/top) who's interested to be in a relationship with crossdresser like me?
I've tried fetlife, but didn't get any responses there. On craigslist there're only guys looking for nsa hookups.
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The irony of transgenderism is that they're trying fit in with society by becoming something that society doesn't approve of.

Since you're already an androgynous male who likes pretty things, why not just accept that instead of spending your entire life trying to transform into a female that nobody will believe? Society is going to look down on you either way, wouldn't it be better to make them accept the real you instead? Isn't that what it's all about? I suppose most people who transition believe they were meant to be a different gender as a coping mechanism anyway.
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>>707988941
/b/ existed for a long time before it became acceptable to be posting men in stockings.
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>>707987725
I'm 19 and nearly 20, people tell me I am like a 9/10 looking guy, and I want to do trap stuff but I'm sure I'd have to be a like 2/10 trap for so long
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>>707988672
It is a preference related to your sexuality.
A sexual preference.
Really not too much to explain.

Feel free to explain to me what it is if not a sexual preference.
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>>707989472
Please explain why anyone would want to be gay, or want to transform themselves into a woman. How is it a choice?
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>>707989982
because they desire it....?
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>>707990145
Are you really that dense? Or just trolling? Where does that desire come from? Do you have that desire? Why not? If it's a choice, then why aren't you gay?

Why would someone choose to be gay and run the risk of being ostracized, hated, beaten, or even murdered?

Can you stop being straight?

The only "choice" is whether or not you live a lie or if you're honest with yourself.
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>>707990552
It can be an innate desire thats native to the person? I do believe its a choice.

>run the risk of being ostracized, hated, beaten, or even murdered
For a phenomenal amount of reasons

>can you stop being straight
yes of course I can i can make the decision to go and fuck guys

>the only choice is whether or not you live a lie or if you're hoenst with yourself
thats fine just carry on discarding the influence you have on your own life and succumb to the lie that you don't decide for yourself.
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>>707990875
>fucking guys = gay
K E K
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>>707990875
So you can stop loving women, and go love a man and have a happy life together? You could spend the rest of your life married to a man and be happy and comfortable with your choice?

Because that's what being gay is. Not having sex with men.
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>>707991019
you think that by going out and fucking guys i wont be slowly making myself gay or at least more accepting of the behaviour?

>>707991085
yes of course i could and so could anyone reading this if they discarded their prior beliefs
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>>707991169
Then go do it. Document it. Prove to the world that sexuality is a choice and not an inborn condition.

It won't happen though. You can't make yourself what you're not.
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>>707983317
wtf i dont see this girl in there?
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>>707989982
Preference and choice are not the same thing.

A preference just means you're more inclined to like one thing than the other.
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>>707989982
No one ever said it was a choice.

Seems like you can't find a reason why homosexuality is not a sexual preference, so you're changing the argument to homosexuality being a choice.
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femenine butholes
http://baja-opcionez.com/category/shemales/
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>>707991930
>No one ever said it was a choice.

>>707990875
>I do believe its a choice.
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psychologist here. Traps think in a psychotic way. they are not crazy, by that i mean they dont actually hear voices or see crazy stuff. They have satisfaction using the same logic. For exemple, a gay man likes man and dress like man. A trap dress like a woman, talks like a woman idetify itself like a woman, but dont reject its penis. The transexual are not like that they identify themselves as the oposite sex and the male ones reject the penis. So traps and trans are different. The relation of this kind of self representation and the crazy peple representation is this one : if its offered the option to a crazy man to pick a blue or a red shirt his mindset thinks its fine to have both, he will pick up both and ware both at the same time. Its not hard to find traps that are also prostitutes that when they need to, they get as alpha male as possible and beat the shit out of guys that dont pay them. They can be both at the same time, just like a crazy person. Also its known that a large number of man that look for traps ask them to be fucked in the ass, its not the other way around. So you have a trap that identify himself as a woman that is active in bed, that can flip into macho anytime it needs to be. If thats not crazy i dont know what it is. They are not sick tho, they are just out of the usual western culture curve of "normality".
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>>707992266
different people faggot

i dont care what you think or what you believe my belief is that exposure will change a person and this place is a breeding ground for faggots.
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>>707992379
>highschooler here
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>>707992409
Your belief flies in the face of every research on sexuality in like the past 30...40? years.

So enjoy having a retarded belief, faggot.
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>>707992266
That's not me, and that was also said after you asked me why it's a choice.

I said it was a sexual preference, you said it was not.

Why is it not a sexual preference, and if it's not, what is it?
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I think it depends. I've just always liked sucking dick, I actually have not had anal yet.. but love taking the pics nonetheless.
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>>707992379
There isn't much difference between pretending to be a psychologist to get attention and validation, than pretending to be a woman to get dicked down.
Some food for thought for you.
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>>707991529
too late
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>>707992379
Trap here, I don't like my dick that much, I just don't want to be a trap bad enough to want to chop it off.

My dick gets in the way of a lot of cute outfits and makes most cute panties extremely uncomfortable to wear.
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>>707993517
yeah, so many fake psychologists who are beaten up, shot or stoned to death.
Totally a same thing.
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>>707993893
Oh you special snowflake, I'm sorry for invalidating that victim card. To make you feel better, I totally think fake psychologists should be beaten up, shot and stoned to death.
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>>707993893
Way to miss the point completely.
Both are attention whores seeking validation.
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>>707981218
I personally believe that the internet's fascination, borderline obsession, with futas/herms/shemales/traps/whatever stems from a base human trait found in many on the vast expanse of the world wide web. The desire to be wanted, to be attractive to someone. And not only this, but let's face the facts: the majority of those on sites like these are submissive minded social outcasts who don't fit in well with regular, run of the mill communities. The female and male libidos are not the same, not by a long shot. For females, sex is very intimate and powerful, creating a bond between partners, and they also have a notably lower sex drive. Males, however, are able to fuck anything that moves at the drop of a hat, and the dong is the tool that allows them to do that. The schlong, when erect, is indicative of arousal and attraction, which appeals to us, the poor sods who just want someone to want us. But, alas, most males are not attracted to the male physique, so fetishists are faced with the dilema of liking dicks but not men. The simple solution? Throw a penis on a woman's body. So, in actuality, we are not fapping to men, per say, but actually women with the ability and desire to make us feel wanted, to give us that little extra confidence boost to get us through the day.
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>>707994163
well, they'd deserve that more than trap tbh
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>>707982132
do it

>be me
>be straight
>been with 30-40 grills, no weiners
>tried 1 trap, 1 dude
>wasn't great
>nothing gained
>never do it again
>still glad I tried it
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>>707994273
ffs you're talking about the fetish FOR traps

not the desire to BE a trap
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>>707994413
You fukkin no it bb
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>>707987319
>Liberals actually believe this
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attention, exploring, taking on the challenge, and overall love for everything feminin
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>>707994728
Well, I mean, it kind of is.

I can be less gay than hardcore sex slaves dressed in full leathers, but still like traps.
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OK, so....here's my sick story of almost falling over the edge.

>Be me a few years back, 20yo
>just finished really bad 2mo drinking binge
>fuck me
>start smoking pot and downing dxm everyday
>have money saved up so just stealing bottles and extracting the dxm at friends house
>continue doing great amounts of dxm everyday for another 2 months straight
>in that time I convinced myself that I was a grill
>start obsessively shaving myself, putting makeup on, wearing dresses
>I'm living in my truck and basically filling up the back with women's clothes that I take from thrift stores
>spend my weeks tripping balls and playing music in the city downtown
>have visions of death basically everynight because of the tripping balls
>i am 100%convinced that I am going to get on hrt and get my dick chopped
>stop the dxm cold turkey
>the ssri qualities of dxm's effects cause massive fucking brain zaps and super disequilibrium of brain activity lead to be becoming literally THE MOST FUCKING BIPOLAR, SUICIDAL FUCKFACE on the planet. period. holy fuck.
>get back on heroin for a month
>decide i have to quit all this shit or I'm just gonna die
>stop
>3 years later I'm going for welding cert and CADmachining trade.
>not a fucking cunt anymore finally
>not fucking homeless and addicted
>not a faggot

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>>707994967
Why would you ever do dxm daily?

It's kinda cool for a weird experience every once in a while, but it's never been enjoyable to me.
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>>707994967
We all choose our own paths, and if you choose to let yourself become warped by others then you are weak and/or alone.
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