Science-fiction.
Post something you like and say a few words about it.
The book The Thing was based on.
Dune by Frank Herbert.
It's fucking Dune by Frank Herbert.
>>707847981
God Tier Book.
Can't understand why no one has made that into a movie yet.
If you're more into gruesome action and don't care too much about the rest.
Better than the TV show.
One of the best Sci-fi things i've read about sci-fi war/ war in general
Not all about the action but about the people and what effects war and 'time travel' has on them
>>707848624
I confirm this. Absolutely solid.
>war vet plus astrophysicist wrote it
Lighter than most novels in these threads, this one is mostly dialogue with aliens and the question of God.
It's written by a Canadian so expect a lot of USA bashing, evolution VS creationism, but with some interesting points along the way; it's not mindless scientism, that's what I mean. The evil hillbillies put me off quite a bit but they're not that present overall.
It reads like a comedy on the whole but still pulled a few tears in the beginning, unexpectedly.
The ending was disappointing to me, but I didn't expect it to do anything else, considering the subject matter.
Very psychological. If that's your think, you'll love it and feel it through your whole being.
>>707848322
Awesome book.
>>707848284
It's not been a movie because it would cost too much if they didn't do a shitty job. Great book though
>>707849882
Another reason, in my opinion, why it would fail as a movie is because it's mostly a novel of exploration. It could work as a film but it'd require a bunch of additions.
One thing that I don't mind in sci-fi is that the characters are often "just there" and don't matter much. Clarke and Dick never write memorable characters. I can't name a single name from any of their novels, because the characters aren't the center of attention, compared to the stuff around them.
But you need characters in a movie, because you see them all the time. It wouldn't be all that much. Just some background for the characters, some dialogue between them, and more problems, potentially.
Great set pieces, God-tier script, and it could be an excellent movie.
>>707847981
Eisenhorn.
pretty good.
Post some based covers too.
>>707847981
The Bible had some interesting stories. Some scientific flaws, but interesting
>>707848150
definitely my favorite sci fi book. I just read dune messiah and I was unimpressed.
>>707850419
>The Bible
The fedora joke is about the Bible being fiction, not science-fiction. Why so dense? Nothing fits sci-fi in the Bible, unless you take the ancient alien approach, and even then, it's a stretch.
The greatest scope of imagination in all of Science Fiction imho
>>707850552
>implying it's a joke
>>707847981
"Use of Weapons" by Iain M. Banks.
That shit made me put it down and leave it for a bit twice while reading it. Fucked up my perspective for a bit. Nobody wrote sci-fi as personal as feely-feels as Banks, m8.
This here is a fucking masterpiece. Never before have I been so immersed and mindfucked by a movie [spoiler]possible exception being Irréversible[/spoiler]. An excruciating and exhausting experience, for it's three fucking hours of the most confusing and disturbing footage of an alien medieval distopy, but so fucking worth it. A must-see if you're into humanities, principally history and anthropology. Also a must-see for cinema enthusiasts of any kind. 10/10 ez.
The book is 8,5/10 at most, 10/10 for the theme and premise and 7/10 for the writing, but I recommend it nonetheless [spoiler]because you probably won't be able to understand the movie without reading it first, as I wasn't.[/spoiler]
>>707848624
Not complete sure I remember, but I think this is one of the few books that actually accounts for time dilation. This is the one where everyone literally turns gay right?
>>707850293
Agreed. Abnett is generally top notch. Try Gaunts Ghosts if you like the writing style.
ITT: humans are the most important species in the whole multiverse.
> Roadside Picnic
The inspiration behind the STALKER game series and the similarly titled film by legend andrei tarkovsky. The world the two brothers set out is fascinating and the concept of our own place - in the universe and in this world - is well explored through a metaphor that isn't shoved down your throat.
>>707850781
It is a joke, because actual retards would consider the Bible "fiction", considering the 60-plus books that are in it, some of them officially fiction already, some poetry, some proverbs, etc. To say a poem is "fiction" is just plain retarded. Joke's on you if you think calling the Bible "fiction" is funny. You just sound retarded.
>>707850293
ive read Honor Guard, reads like bad, predictable fanfic.
>>707850865
That's the one.
It's pretty good.
faggots still reading books
>>707850918
>ITT: humans are the most important species in the whole multiverse.
No, dumb cunt: humans are the only species you belong to.
>>707851108
Read it in series order. It's all about the character development.
>>707851144
Dumb cunt.
>>707851171
Well, there's all these mediocre scifi telling me we're alwats the one who save the planet/galaxy/universe from bad shit happening
>>707851144
Nothin' but Kindles and podcasts for fuckin' Johnny Mnemonic here huh?
Reading a book or two once in a while can lead to less people thinking you're an ignorant cocksucker - fact.
>>707849697
Children of the Mind is in my top 5
>>707851218
your the one still purchasing books
>>707851144
>reads posts on a forum for weaboos
>needs electricity to read
>doesn't get comfy in bed with a damn brick of paper
>doesn't smell books
>>707851393
>kindles and podcasts
podcasts are not enjoyable
what the fuck, this is awesome
>>707851365
>Well, there's all these mediocre scifi telling me we're alwats the one who save the planet/galaxy/universe from bad shit happening
Everyone's interested in seeing their side fighting, and winning, in most cases, though many have us lose as well.
For this reason, you should seek a novel where unsufferable faggots fight aliens in space. You'll relate.
>>707851365
You mean like those copypastas and /r/HFY? Their stuff ranges from absurdly bad to more nuanced serials - bear in mind these are mostly amateur attempts that don't cost you a dime.
Dune saga
>>707851365
$5 says this anon is a furry
>>707851468
Neither is seeing you bitch about other people and their personal preferences. I bet you still order pizza rather than making your own don't you? Ugh, such a fucking faggot...
See how ridiculous you sound? I coudn't give a shit if you eat pizza from a fucking dumpster, you nothing-fuck, so why do you care if people enjoy something you don't?
It's because you're a cunt, anon. A solid-gold cunt.
>>707851406
See, because you don't read, you can't even use correct grammar. Books are dirt cheap on amazon, sorry you are a peasant.
>>707851365
no one would read about some blob of protoplasma saving the seventh plane of dyragus, because no one can identify with it. you fucking twat.
>>707851464
>walk in to barnes & nobles
>faggots everywhere
>go home fuck hooker
>lay down and have a cigarette laughing at cucks purchasing paper
>>707851143
Yep, was definitely a good read. I was expecting another starship troopers space war and what I got was something a lot more thought out, based on more realistic science and the human experience was fucking excellent. Very good book.
Seeing as how its the devils month, do u anons know if there are any sci-fi books that are also spooky?
>>707848624
>>707848773
forever war and starship troopers and other scifi novels give me a war boner. i love the halo novels because it was like a revival of that genre.
>>707851694
You're the one writing paragraphs of verbal diarrhoea against the guy who barely strings sentences together. Settle the fuck down son.
>>707851694
>order pizza
are u a retard little caesars master race
>>707847981
The SF equivalent of reading Melville:
Earthers/mankind/humanity is badass in universe in any way imaginable
from military strategy, across unconventional uses of science to music
lots of writers
lots of universes
tons of fun
try subreddit HFY
inb4 reddit
>>707851199
Does the writing improve? Cause its nothing but the same ww2 war stories that where written in lazy big piles in the 50s and 60s. With an angsty douche in a cape for a protagonist
>>707851840
Same for me. I love books where humanity is on the brink of annihilation by a superior species and we have to fight our way back.
Also fuck Karen Travis and her kilo-one trilogy. That shit was unreadable.
>>707851701
yeah cause no one but cucks buy them
>>707851781
>would rather burn paper than read it
Fucking pleb
Mindwashingly good
>>707851538
Rise above pleb. There's no reason to follow the same urge that makes teenagers watch teenager shit.
Scifi is about seeing how reality develops in strange contexts, usually much bigger than our sole planet/timeline/reality, and the most probable thing is that we're as important as ants to a fucking galaxy overlord kind of villain.
>>707851781
I order all my books from Amazon. No need to leave my home, books are in better condition.
Books aren't expensive, friend. You can get them for a few dollars if you buy them used, and then you can resell them if you don't like to keep them around. It's virtually free that way. You can also use a goddam library, you know, and then it literally is free.
The Culture Cycle by Iain M Banks
Because because !
>>707851835
>something a lot more thought out, based on more realistic science and the human experience was fucking excellent. Very good book.
True, but don't forget that SS was the first military sci-fi novel that an actual soldier could read with a straight face. Before that, it was ridiculous. Heinlein paved the way for Joe and virtually all other military sci-fi novels.
Trancendant by Stephen Baxter. Literally gave me a religious experience
>>707852472
>use a library
I'm not an old man lmao
>>707852015
How does it compare to the Fifth Head of Cerberus? All I read by him so far.
>>707852261
What a retarded statement. 16 year old detected.
>>707852666
bro just relax u even know its true
>>707850562
>British award
>American author
Explain.
Also explain how this cover matches anything in the damn book.
That book is 3 stories with connections. The second one is rather detestable in style, because it's basically aliens, so very little makes sense. This is not easy-reading by any stretch.
A few scifi books I've enjoyed recently
Halo: Fall of Reach
Halo: Ghosts of Onyx
EVE The Empyrean Age
Ender's Saga
>>707851883
Don't tell me what to do, Karl.
>>707852702
Master troll 3001.
not one of you womb jumpers mentioned this yet? pringle dicks.
>>707852214
karen comes and goes. i really like her star wars novels because i'm a mandofag but her halo stuff kinda drifted from what i wanted.
i really like the idea of humanities history of violence and adaptability being their saving grace when it comes to battling an outside force. I love stories of humans calling up lessons from killing eachother and using them against a bunch of xenos. if you really looks a how humanity jumped from the base existence we had for ten thousand plus years to suddenly within a hundred years going from the airplane to talking seriously about colonizing mars. The real driving factor in our advancement has been warfare.
>>707852766
i'm not saying it's all shit, but it will never be popular
>>70784969
the movie was terrible and pandered to 10 year olds.
Is the book really better?
>>707852862
Much better. Terse and to the point, not being a whiny bitch and taking the bait. Now, what's the most recent Sci-fi novel you read and enjoyed?
>>707852887
I found it rather meh
>>707852646
Very dense, yet the best SciFi I've read since Tolkien. Requires multiple re-readings but pays off.
>>707852193
Well, you'll have to judge for yourself - but Abnett writes for 2000AD, Black Library, and the Mr Men (true) so his writing isn't too shabby, clearly. But no, it doesn't feel like pulp war trash, it's distinctly Warhammer in feel but the character interaction is fantastic.
>>707852414
>Rise above pleb. There's no reason to follow the same urge that makes teenagers watch teenager shit.
The only people who write science-fiction are humans. It's not just my urges, it's plainly that no other species does it.
>Scifi is about seeing how reality develops in strange contexts, usually much bigger than our sole planet/timeline/reality, and the most probable thing is that we're as important as ants to a fucking galaxy overlord kind of villain.
The idea that importance and relevance are measured by something as silly as size should not even enter your adult mind. A mere brain is more important than our very sun, and there are way more suns than there are brains to a serious area around us.
I'd not feel any kind of immersion if another species was attacked, whereas if we are attacked, then I'm de facto all in. Imagine if all the movies you watched were based on aliens with cultures you didn't relate to.
>>707853021
all that edge
>>707848773
>>707848624
Heh. I once alarmed Joe Haldeman by almost spilling a drink in front of him.
https://discord.gg/txQxHAx
Desu's Official Discord Server !
We'll be doing raids in 12 hours from now
Be there on time
>lel-chan
>>707852606
Libraries are populated by young students. You should step into one, some day.
>>707852989
"Spares" by Michael Marshall Smith. Fucking mint. well written, disturbing subject matter, nice characters, full suspension of disbelief. Worth a look.
>>707853070
the best SciFi I've read since Tolkien
i've seen so many books advertised with that line, every single one of them were shit.
>>707852887
Blade Runner!
>>707852938
And it's for the same reason kids watch kids shows. Stupid people want to feel significant, so they choose star wars over lovecraft.
>>707853138
its not being edgy, it just wasnt as good as i would have hoped. And it certainly didn't live up to the "much better then the movie hype".
>>707847981
Horus heresy. Pretty damn good series, war, brutality, no love stories.
>>707853239
Kind of hard to pick an author that everyone is familiar with, JRR Tolkien is best example.
>>707847981
http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/morgan-freeman-discusses-why-he-keeps-trying-to-get-rendezvous-with-rama-made
>>707852887
I didn't like it much, and I've read a bunch of Dick novels. This one is amongst the worst I know. The movie is superior.
Dick does a number of things he shouldn't do, generally, he shoves too many fucking things in the same book and ends up not using any to the full. Also stretches credibility beyond seriousness. Weak characters, too.
Dick was horrible at titles and wording in general. Literally every new term used for the movie makes it look like shit. A novelisation of the film would be superior to this, I must say.
Other Dick novels I recommend over this one:
>The World Jones Made
>Eye in the Sky
>>707853284
are we argueing or agreeing? also, lovecraft's stories aren't that good either. they're definetally different from the rest though.
>>707853070
Very dense? I should be fine, Wolfe said he watered down his style after Cerberus.
>>707853146
If that's a joke or a meme, I don't get it.
>>707853342
A nice little short story/novella if you want to feel some despair.
>>707853284
>Stupid people want to feel significant,
You're even more stupid if you think intelligent people don't want to feel significant.
In fact, dumber people don't need to feel significant because that would require more thought and more context. If you don't think too hard about life, you will feel significant more easily, without even trying.
If you study astronomy and history and biology and more, then your significance will be challenged and that's when you'll want to "feel significant" because nobody can live without some modicum of significance.
If you don't find yourself struggling for significance, you might just be the sort of moron you thought you were shitting on.
Proto- Douglas Adams & Kilgore Trout
>>707853362
>Morgan Freeman can read
>Morgan Freeman has taste
Did 4chan lie to me about these people?
So... uh...
I mean it's not a book but the Eridanus supervoid is something I'm interested in.....no? A book? Ok hitchhikers guide.
The earth is taken over by alien probes. Very good.
>>707853118
>Imagine if all the movies you watched were based on aliens with cultures you didn't relate to.
Fucking golden age of human race. Look at how we've advanced as a technological based society in the last century. Look at all those 'inventions'. Where did they all come from?
You know they were all from the pollished ideas from writers, writers who had the mental capacity to think outside their own easy-to-relate-environment, and they not only made such great pieces of work, but they made human-race advance by giving the not so creative people something to look at. They created meaning out of nothing.
>>707853638
I read it and was unimpressed. I read the other stories in the same book, unimpressed. How do you fuck up such a great concept?
A teacher once told Harlan he couldn't write, and Harlan punched him.
Truth hurts.
I may give it another try, but I really couldn't like any of his stories.
>>707849697
Funny how homoerotic the book is considering how OSC is a hard-line homophobic Mormon.
>>707853840
spoiler: it's yer mom's asshoel
>>707853840
>meme jokes in space
>fedora humour
>hur dur religious people
1
2
More pre-Douglas Adams satirical SF
>>707854022
Checked.
It's dumb and funny. But the planet making was cool. Chill.
Then give me something to read my friend.
>>707854100
nice. but that faggot actor what's his name still ruined it.
>>707853949
You overthink these writers. Imagining earphones before they existed wasn't hard, it's just that 99% of the people who imagined that weren't novelists so their idea wasn't immortalised anywhere.
Looking outside the box changes nothing. All these authors use humans, or humanoids, to write their stories.
The point stands. If you are a human and write for humans, you are bound by those conventions. You can't be an alien writing for aliens, simply.
>>707852347
kek
>>707854019
It's always either that or an anus joke... Kek these threads are always so fun
>>707854100
Nice dubs
>>707853975
To be fair, to find it homoerotic, you need to frequent /fit/ more than is healthy. Boys fight naked because one is assaulted in the shower. Only homo-erotic if you're a conservative-hating cunt.
Card is not homophobic - he isn't afraid of homos - but his religion is against homosexual marriage, so he is too, de facto. He can't say otherwise.
>>707854171
>>707853681
The answer to all that shit you just said is plain existentialism, embrace nihilism and then simply let it go.
>>707854246
>It's always either that or an anus joke...
>it's always either that
>that = it's your mom's asshole
>it's always either your mom's asshole or an anus joke
>or
>your mom's asshole
>or
>an anus joke
>your mom's asshole isn't an anus
>anus =/= asshole
>pure sci-fi
Has anybody read Fire Upon the Deep? I'm trying to get through it but it feels like it's written for autists.
>>707854457
>embrace nihilism and then simply let it go.
The only people who can do that are posers. If you really give a damn about existentialism, you won't let go until you find some reason to live, or kill yourself.
>all that shit
You'd suck some dirty dicks to write comparable truthdoms.
>>707854504
are you high?
>>707854509
>it feels like it's written for autists.
Elaborate? I'm curious.
>>707854642
I inhaled some of your mom's asshole. Shit's strong as fuck.
>>707854685
kek
>>707854205
>You can't be an alien writing for aliens, simply.
But you can try. And some people tries way harder than others. And some are just way better at it than the rest.
>>707854780
>But you can try.
That's what many do, but it never works unless said aliens are strongly like us.
Bottom line is, if you write truly alien aliens, then the reader cannot relate, and cannot enjoy or find interest in the story.
You don't even need to go very far for this shit to fail: imagine a novel based on a cat's life. What is relevant to a cat will seem retarded to you. You want some characters questioning the existence of God? Nope, you get a quest for a tuna can instead and barbed wire penises.
I think you underestimate how truly alien aliens would be, when even a cat, or a fungus would bore you to death with their non-human interests.
Almost anything by P.K.D. and Aldous Huxley
>>707854594
>If you really give a damn about existentialism, you won't let go until you find some reason to live, or kill yourself.
As Albert Camus said, the literal meaning of life is whatever you're doing that prevents you from killing yourself.
I read the first novel there, is the rest worth it?
>>707854420
Cool I'll check it out. Heard of it, now I'll give it a read.
>>707855103
>As Albert Camus said, the literal meaning of life is whatever you're doing that prevents you from killing yourself.
>you live because you don't kill yourself
He should have paid attention on the road instead of thinking such trivial retarded thoughts.
I'm Swiss, I know the French and cannot respect someone just for being French. I speak their language and have studied their literature and their ways. Shit goes down soon after 1900.
>>707855104
You could say if the first one was worth it
>>707855124
>Michael Moorcock
>Moorcock
>Stormbringer
>Moorcock
>Stormfront
>don't let them fuck our white women
>>707855200
Oh, believe me he did. He enjoyed his life the best he could. A quick biography search would speak for itself.
Ok the modern sci fi scene is tight too guys. Check out:
Ready Player One
The Atlantis Gene
Wool
Just some modern suggestions. Amazon could've told you as much but I read a lot and do suggest them, the first one has a great story and nostalgia factor. The second one is intriguing about human origin picks up a quarter of the way through. The last one has a decent post apocalyptic vibe but really the writing is beyond superb
Post your favourite Heinlein. I've only read two so far.
>>707855360
He's French. Whatever he did, the average French does too.
>drinks
>cheats on wife
>do drugs
>parties a lot
>doesn't give a fuck about anything except the tip of his dick and his mouth, for food and liquor
>>707855589
> says the shitposter on /b/
>>707855671
If you think the OP of a sci-fi thread on /b/ is a shitposter, I don't need to add anything.
>>707855517
Have Space Suit—Will Travel is one of those fun, not to serious ones
>>707855852
Not even OP.
Nice incoherent argument anon
>>707848150
What an over rated piece of dog shit.
I got bored and stopped reading it
>>707854972
There are a few 'universal' things (at least among all living creatures on earth) and one of those is the need for power, sometimes in the form of freedom, sometimes in the possibily of overcoming the environment, and sometimes teaming up so you as a group get stronger.
I could relate to the representation of power of the cat, that is tricking his owner and doing what he wants when he wants and eating whatever whenever he wants, and his ways to do it.
And even of a dog, that is teaming up with his owner as him as a dog increases his power significantly by submissing to his human, the same way bacteria live in our intestines.
And even as a tree, that is fighting the environment and spreading his roots to gain more resources, ergo more power. And his ways and tricks and methods to achieve this.
>>707855852
Clearly I do you self-righteous turd burglar.
Best sci fi in my opinion
This entire series is solid with not only great grounded Navy and military strategy but it's practical.
Also anything with a 100 year space war is fun. Basically a soldier that's been in cryo stasis for 100 year's after his ship is destroyed when the war began is found and he's the most Senior officer in a fleet deep in enemy space.
Good reads, I suggest highly
>>707856573
It literally doesn't get any better than this
Some post-humanism around people fusing in a gestalt being
>>707853893
nice one.
>>707856308
I want to add something to this. This applies to humans to, which choose to form part of a society in order to gain more power.
This concept of constant will to power is from originally from Nietzsche, another existentialist.
>>707856968
Sturgeon is also probably the best SF short story
writer that's even been...
Should I read the Hyperion books? I don't read much scifi and want to get into the genre.
>science fiction novel thread
>only see one masterpiece, dune
It's like you creatins don't even like gold scifi
>enjoy another masterpiece
Pic related
>>707857337
some of what's posted are amazing
>>707857524
>>707856968
>>707856670
>>707855517
>>707854976
>>707854075
>>707848150
start with any of those
>>707857524
>Dune
It's slower than Lord of the Ring without the pages-long description. The author constantly teases "Maybe the protagonist is, like everyone believes, truly the messiah", while the protagonist is just a Mary Sue. Not really interesting to read.
Gerrold ia such a shithead for continually promising to finish this series and never delivering. What a cunt. One of the best series I've ever read.
One of the best bildungs novels I've read, and a great passage where the protag comes rolling in in 8 different vehicles stacked into eachother and ending on rollerskates
>>707855101
>>707853384
>>707852887
Mah dickheads
>>707852347
lol is this were we learns about the midiclorians?
>>707857760
Thanks
>>707853492
I was in the same room with him at a con, and I dropped my cup. He was alarmed, and started reaching to stop it falling, than realized it was empty.
>>707847981
A world out of time. Fave Niven book. Got to have read it like 10 times back in the 80s and early 90s.
>>707847981
Magician
>>707850290
Well... The Martian was kind of explorative and people liked it right? Still though, might be a tougher sell for the general public. Try explaining the coriolis package transfer they had from entry to base camp to the average person.
>>707850562
Agreed. A bit to soap to be in my top 10, but to be fair it's scope makes it impossible to make harder sci-fi.
>>707850814
Thanks for pointing me to this, anon
>>707848624
Amazing novel. Dark, scary.
>>707852495
Zakalwe for president.
my favorite
the entire discworld series. cause pratchett is a god amongst men
>>707862562
fuck yeah nigga
>>707850791
I can totally second that. His death was a terrible loss. Culture books are among the best Sci-Fi I ever read and I read a lot.
>>707847981
Schätzings Limit is an epic thriller including virtual reality and badass sci-fi vehicles plus it's about economics and written as detailled as exciting.
>>707865279
completely. an entire genre of AI mind sci fi gone
As /s4s/ would put it, this is nice thread.
>>707865587
schätzing may have a deeper knowledge about the things he is writing about but the stories just dont draw you in. He writes boring in my opinion
>>707847981
how has nobody posted the foundation books yet?
>>707863485
You mean was. And I'd rather call it fantasy.
bump
>>707856298
Pretentious drivel.
>>707865963
Because nobody has read it.
The last angel (google it, its free to read).
If you love HFY, you will love this.
Also the forever war as mentioned before.
The salvation war (humans vs the invading legions of Hell and in book two humans vs the angels of heaven. also free to read)
>>707856573
>>707865963
>sci fi? i love the foundation books
>should i read the thread first?
>no lets just shitpost
>>707858774
>bildungs novels
I believe the expression is bildungsroman but colour me unsure.
I was going to buy this until you said it was a bildungsroman. Had no idea this was basically Young Adult literature.
>>707860774
If true, that's crazy.
>>707868607
>was going to buy this
As if.
>>707863208
Any good English translation for this?
>>707865963
Been posted.
>>707868813
Did not find one, but the movie is quiete good.
>>707848150
Shitty book, pompous and full of gibberish.
>>707853893
It's also about a beta male whose love interest fucks literally everyone except him, so I guess it's a perfect book for the cucks of /b/
Why did nobody mention Quantum Thief yet? Best scifi in the last 10 years.
>>707855517
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is his masterpiece. Rolling Stones and Red Planet are two of my personal favorites.
>>707868452
2edgy4me
>>707871442
it would be nice if people read threads first
The story of a drug addict memelord alien, whose culture includes:
- floating in gazeous geants
- a "kudos" currency
- hunting their youngs
- defending their planet with a death star
>>707848113
My man! I was surprised just how similar they were while expanding on the concept.