Seriously, why do you think weed is illegal??
water is more lethal than weed, It takes about6 litersof water to kill a 165-pound person
Whereas nobody has ever died from weed.
Cigarettes and cigars that are proven to give you cancer, 100% Acceptable!
Alcohol and spirits that are addictive, kills millions around the world every year and liver damage, 100% Perfectly fine!
Who even gives a fuck what you put in your body?
Legalisation would generate BILLIONS in tax revenue and the Government could take it out of the hands of criminals, control and regulate the substance insuring you get the best premo shit.
I adore this thread. There's no reason for this medicine to be illegal. How can we go about legalizing it?
The only real danger in smoking weed is getting caught by the police. The only known danger is man-made.
Stigma
>>707501370
>Still arguing the weed issue on this pathetic level
It has nothing, NOTHING!, To do with anything you just wrote.
Weed is illegal because pharmaceutical companies cannot patent it. Simple as that. Big pharma lobbies against it all day long because the amount of medicine that marijuana applies to and would effect would be a massive loss for them.
>Hurr durr "weed is safer than alcohol"
Fuck that argument you goon. Read what it has done in the treatment of cancer. That's the issue, that's what is holding it back.
Fuck you though, I live in Canada and it's going to be legal country wide in a year. Enjoy your country ruled by big pharma.
>>707501370
>why do you think weed is illegal??
>think
its basically known to everyone by now that there are powerful corporations (private prison, pharmaceutical, lumber, fiber off the top of my head) that would take a massive blow to their profits if it were legal. It became illegal for that reason, look up anslinger and the "cotton gin" for hemp.
Everyone in this thread is a complete fucking idiot. Ask any credible psychiatrist why marijuana is bad for your brain. You're probably too stupid to comprehend it, though. It should be obvious that you're psychologically addicted by supporting it in this thread. Yes you are. No you won't quit you fucking delusional liar.
>>707502509
USA PNW. legal here, guy.
>>707502903
nuh-uh
>>707502903
Fine. But pretty of legal things are harmful. Don't be an idiot. It's illegal because of its many applications in influential industry. It's propaganda you fuck.
Hemps a really good material. Its fibers are stronger and overall more durable than most materials used today to make items such as rope and paper. Honestly you could probably make some solid plastic with hemp as well. Its just a good material to make shit with.
>>707503601
Hey this guy gets it
>>707503601
It's not propaganda. It's illegal because it can cause psychosis and schizophrenia in otherwise normal people with a predisposition.
>>707502903
But so is all the prescribed shit, and alcohol
Why one law for a lethal substance, and another for a natural plant no1s ever died from??
>>707502903
Yeah I don't even smoke it so that fucks that argument.
>>707501370
about the water camparison: i want to see you after you smoked 6 litres of weed
>>707501370
>Seriously, why do you think weed is illegal??
In the late 60's Tricky Dick figured out that strict enforcement would get filthy hippies off the street. He then generalized it to include getting niggers off the streets.
Since then pharma and law enforcement have kept it down. Pharma can't profit off of it and law enforcement can really profit off of it.
Also, niggers still in jail.
>>707503902
True if you gotta weak mind.
>>707501370
>>707501370
>Who even gives a fuck what you put in your body?
the government regulates everything you can put in your body. It owns you from cradle to grave.
Why is weed illegal ? Very simple answer because you getting stoned does not benefit society. Think about the arguments people use against weed , they say things like "my brother was a great hardworking guy , now he has no job and smokes weed all day" bingo that's why its illegal because high people are less useful than sober ones. Tobacco is not illegal yet because it does not effect peoples behavior or performance in a dramatic way (until it gives you cancer). If your brother smokes cigarettes he probably wont loose his job and sit around chain smoking.
>>707503902
And what? Even if that's true, are you saying all the other shit that's "legal" is perfect for you?
Your body, your choice. Do you also believe abortion should be illegal?
>>707504117
Science demands an answer.
>>707503902
I have schizophrenia, Schizoaffective disorder to be exact. I've been this way for maybe fourteen of the twenty years I've been alive. Started smoking at the age of seventeen. It's the only thing that helps with my hallucinations and delusions, as well as my seizures.
>>707504280
WERNSTROM!
Adults over 21 should be aloud to choose what they can put in their own body.
There's side effects and deaths in all the other drugs, sugar, caffeine, tobacco, alcohol. Why don't we ban them because of side effects in some people too?
>>707504174
>Very simple answer because you getting stoned does not benefit society
That same argument was used to enact prohibition in the US and look how well that worked out.
>>707504117
Biccccch, I wish I had that much weed.
>>707504561
That flower there looks "aloud."
Look guys, aside from the pharma shit and all the corruption that's going on that's preventing weed from legalization, there's one more factor that ya'll are missing.
Weed truly leads to harder drugs for MOST people, mostly maybe because it's viewed as one and if an edgy teen tries it he wants something "stronger" and cooler or whatever. But fuck that, that's a weak arguement. Weed has been proven to induce and cause psychosis and schizophrenia to people, but not because WEED does it, but because people already had this in them, but it was not fully developed, also a HUGE number of our poplation has a weak mind, meaning that they will NOT stop using weed once they can get it easily, they will start having panic attacks after several weeks/months/yeras of using it.
Most people are not normal members of society when high. Imagine talking serious business with someone about your money or house and he's high as fuck.
Also, weed makes you feel okay with being bored. When you're bored or have free time you shouldn't get high and watch cat videos, you should learn a new skill that will help you and the society to live better. There's many reasons why weed isn't worldwide acceptable, but I'm sure it will become, once people realize that by banning something people just want it more and WILL find a way to get more, and if it's illegal thi s means crime and murder.
I love weed. I love how it opens my mind, I love sativa, indica, all of it. But you must have self control and discipline while using it, you must know when and to not overdo it. Most people can't manage that, that's the truth.
>>707504368
See, countless medical benefits too, and often that's without the Psychoactive component (THC).
>>707504117
>i want to see you after you smoked 6 litres of weed
You supply 6000g of top shelf and I'll make the effort.
>>707504834
>Weed truly leads to harder drugs for MOST people
Wrong!!
Statistically, prescription drugs lead to harder drugs and addiction.
>>707505017
THat doesn't mean weed doesn't do the same.. most junkies start with weed.
>>707505124
Most junkies have also drank water...
Coincidence?? I think not.
Just legalise it, it's a personal choice, like cancer sticks, or liquid liver damage.
>>707505003
I'm in.
>>707501370
People die from weed all the time. Just never from inhaling that shit
>>707505354
Water does not make you want to do harder more dopamine inducing drugs.. you're fucking retarded. We're not talking about obvious shit here, "personal choice" its a personal choice whether its legal or not. Just stop talking
>>707504561
sugar - sugar is food , you cant ban food even though high amounts of refined sugar may be harmful
caffeine - caffeine is an interesting case since its both physically addictive (unlike THC) and also responsible for a certain amount deaths per year. I expect the nanny state will increase regulation of caffeine products in the future.
tobacco - will be an illegal drug within 50years
alcohol is a special case because of its long history and ease of manufacture. As people found out during prohibition its basically impossible to keep people from getting access to it since it can be made so easily. Alcohol is already heavily regulated and in effect illegal for anybody under 21.
>>707505586
Trigger da boi it does funny faces
>>707505470
What then? Did it fall on them from a great height.
It doesn't damage you to the extent of tobacco and booze, so why is it illegal??
It's just an old way of thinking, in 100 years from now do you honestly think it will still be illegal?? With weed shops opening in states like Colorado, generating enough money to build schools. We're TRILLIONS of dollaz in debt, yo. You'd make billions.
>>707503983
Prescribed "shit" has millions of dollars poured into research for the drug to get the doses of a specific chemical (not thc) to make its way to the brain (if it's that kind of medication). I take one that crosses the blood brain barrier. It's an anti-psychotic. I was never psychotic but whoops I smoked pot and had an existential crisis and almost jumped in front of a car. Don't tell me that it was because I took my thoughts too seriously -- if you've lost your sanity there is nothing you can do. Prescribed medication brings your brain back in balance; the very purpose of marijuana is to knock it off balance. Mine stayed off balance. Most peoples' do not. Lucky them.
>>707502903
>implying we don't all have numerous psychological addictions. We are all physically and psychologically addicted to sweets, caffeine, the internet/t.v. (neural stimulation), etc.... so what's the fucking issue?
>>707505730
alcohol is a special case because of its long history and ease of manufacture. As people found out during prohibition its basically impossible to keep people from getting access to it since it can be made so easily.
Criminals took over, made millions and gangs were rampant.
The Government LEGALISED it, taking money away from criminals, And since the government control it they can set standards, quantity of alcohol (THC), and Quality so nobody gets poisoned and dies from bootleg non premo shit.
Alcohol is already heavily regulated, yes, but it's a dangerous substance, unlike weed.
>>707504087
I'm still right. You were taught about weed by your friends, I was taught about weed by my friends too until I talked to doctors who actually know what they're talking about because there are textbooks written on this stuff that druggies don't read. Idk if they would even understand it. Also my doctor told me that "no one has died from weed" is a myth.
>>707504504
kek
>>707506304
>I smoked pot and had an existential crisis and almost jumped in front of a car.
Damn that's a shame. I call that natural selection. Your bad experience ruins it for the rest of us adults.
Just because you're a retard, doesn't mean we are.
>>707506304
>anti-psychotic.
many antipsycotic drugs have very harmful side effects like tardive dyskinesia and increased risk of diabetes.
no offense but if weed made you psychotic there is a good chance it was going to happen anyway.
>>707504128
There's no such thing as a weak mind. Everyone fights as hard as they can to not have a bad trip or do something they'll regret, but if they take too big of a dose, they're fucked. You're deluding yourself.
>>707504174
Nice b8
>>707506654
"Druggies"
Okay Pops...
>>707506384
Love is an addiction. If they're all the same, then do heroin. What's the fucking issue?
>>707504852
Schiz fag here again, the proof is in the pudding and I am the pudding. I've tried basic CBD edibles and felt happy and free of mind fuckery for nearly six hours while vaping a bowl or two within that time frame. As I've continued using it, it seems to help me. At one point, alcohol consumed me, I was doing seven shots within fifteen minutes. Obviously, that didn't help. But it genuinely seems that weed does seem to HELP with my psychosis, rather than trigger it.
>>707504262
Your body, your choice is retarded. Some people aren't smart enough for that. Now people on welfare can't choose junk food. Not their choice. I believe aborting a conscious being should be illegal but if it's not at that stage it's the same as aborting a rock and it's fine.
>>707507402
I should have been more clear. Alcohol got me thrown into a psychiatric ward. Weed has kept me out.
>>707501370
Because drugs lie to you. They create a false sense of your own reality. They make you seem funnier than you, hungrier than you are, happier than you are. There is only one reality, and it's this one, right now.
No 1st rate nation should allow it's people to hide from reality. I'll stick to reality and truth and prepare myself for the usual abuse, and you can have your comforting lies.
>>707507415
>not smart enough for that
And finally, Euthanasia seems to be the solution and not the problem.
>>707501370
i'm lucky i live in canada where it will be legalised soon
>>707507516
Stay strong brotha :)
>>707506915
I'm not a retard. You don't realize it but you are COMPLETELY dependent on the balance of your brain chemicals to be within a certain degree of normal. If this is knocked off balance by trauma, excessive meditation or sensory deprivation, drugs (which all of you seem to love), or whatever, you are absolutely fucked. If you kill someone and end up in a mental hospital, it's not because you're evil it's because your head is fucked up. Often times with medication you can go back to normal. If it is genetic then yes natural selection would weed you out (you would think). But instead it hasn't done that. It's caused these people to become religious and put false faith in supernaturalism. Does that mean the fucked up people deserve to die and are retards? They deserve to be treated and not taken seriously when they start talking about conspiracy theories and some cosmic superconsciousness that you can tap into through meditation. Why the fuck does rehab exist if drugs are fine?
>>707506931
have you ever smoked weed, once, in your life? Cuz if you did, you would know that's total bullshit.
THC lowers the immune system, and makes fighting infections harder. However, so do many other things. Marijuana should be legal because the medical benefits outweigh the risks in most cases.
>>707501802
>>707501649
>>707501370
samefag
also, I am a regular smoker (1g a day) and i've noticed weed makes my mind foggy and makes me forget shit like a madman
Also I don't get proper sleep anymore and my eyes are always tired
Im on a T break now and I literally have had 6 hours of sleep in the past 3 days because of the insomnia you get when withdrawing from daily use
>>707508172
To elaborate, most cultures have a spirituality that was given birth to by this type of chemical imbalance. Shamans in Native America and South America each took peyote (mescaline) and Ayahuasca (DMT) respectively. They were fucking bonkers. There were "good" and "evil" shamans -- but it wasn't their fault. It was luck. They didn't look inside their brain and predict that they would be a good shaman or that their tribe member would be a bad shaman.
>>707502509
This
>>707508231
>Marijuana should be legal because the medical benefits outweigh the risks in most cases.
also the unregulated black market is worse for society than legal weed.
>>707502903
Some of that may be true, but none of them are the reasons it's illegal. The same can be said for plenty of legal things, and if they weren't true of weed, it would likely be illegal anyway.
>>707503701
So can a multitude of other things. What's your point?
>bad for you if you have predisposition
>I guess we should ban for everyone instead of just those with predisposition.
>predisposition to alcoholism because of father? No one cares if 21 hurr durr
>>707501370
It smells like shit and stoners are cunts.
That's why.
>>707508231
I smoked weed too many times. I smoked weed to bring me from perfect sanity to what I only described as "infinite despair". Doctors said they'e seen my case thousands of times. Usually it happens from LSD or shrooms but a small percentage of the population gets it from weed.
>>707507251
Different physical effects. Different severity. Health complications.
>>707506654
>my doctor told me
>takes the word of one man doesn't research or site actual source because med school makes people all-knowing truth-tellers
>>707501370
BECAUSE WEED IS DANGEROUS AND CAN KILL YOU, ITS JUST AS BAD AS COCAINE
>>707503701
>>707508620
Sorry meant for>>707503902
>>707507251
The point is that the psychological addiction isn't the problem, retard, not that psychological addiction negates the other problems
>>707502903
>from the fattest country on the planet literally gorging itself to death on fat sugar salt and oil
>you shouldnt be allowed things that become habitual because their nice, like mcdonalds, because it might ruin your whole life
>>707508441
Your posts reek of projection. Go get yourself checked out, man.
>>707501370
>>Nobody has ever died from weed.
Are you fucking serious? I'm all for it being legal, but that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
>>707508327
You might just need to focus into putting more energy into other shit... Try working out or running or something. You probably are way too hyped up, and relied on the weed to bring you down.
>>707509065
Well the more accurate phrasing would be that one doesn't od on weed as on other drugs, but you knew what it meant
>>707502903
Hey, asshole. This is a thread for talking about how to legalize it nation wide. You can see your bluepilled ass out of here.
Kick rocks FAGGOT
>>707506920
If it would have happened, it would have been slowly over the course of years. It would never have hit me all at once and thrown me over the edge like that. Had I understood how my brain was, I wouldn't have had to go through all that and could have just gotten on medication. But since everyone I knew was completely ignorant about this type of thing, everyone kept egging me on in my spiritual endeavors until I broke. Then I got meds. In a way, it's a good thing because the end result was that I got better, however I also messed up my mood at the same time and it's been two years since I started antidepressants. I've been increasing the dose slowly and it's gone from torture to now what the average person would complain about as "depression" (boo fucking hoo). I'm starting to feel glimpses of what life used to be like when I was really young. To clarify, once I hit puberty things went downhill and stayed downhill because I was born with a then-negligible chemical imbalance in my brain (the doctor said that was the most likely thing, but it could have been stress). Basically my family agrees that I was a completely different person when I was a kid and they never understood what happened. I went from a bundle of joy to a cynical apathetic depressed asshole.
>>707506931
Bad trips give schizo and psychosis? Kek
>>707509273
Pure, un-adulterated marijuana sure. You'd pass out in a kush coma before you even got close to the amount needed to kill yourself. Any "weed related deaths" are mostly DUI deaths and such. Same as alcohol.
>>707506920
Also maybe antipsychotic drugs have side effects but I'm WAY better off taking them. It's a whole different world I'm living in now (obviously)
>>707504834
That's why alcoholism affects millions of people
Pic related is how the ban is justified.
>>707506654
Cool story bro, btw there are quite a bit webpages and other sources that talk about weed and drugs (and also maybe abortion) unobjectively
>>707507703
So you're entire argument is
> I believe in a certain lifestyle so everyone must live it
Get outta here faggot.
>>707509531
>>707509273
Also need to consider that smoking weed potentially causes lung cancer.
A lot of these studies are hard because people usually smoke weed and cigs, instead of just weed. The statistic is that nobody has OD's on weed, but to say that it's perfectly harmless and doesn't result in death is hilarious. Stoners are usually shown as clumsy people, shit happens.
>>707508764
cite*
This is why you're probably a high school kid who knows nothing about research. It's okay to outsource FUCKING YEARS of school to doctors.
>>707504834
Also, a teenager wanting to buy bud from a (unregulated/unsupervised/unlicensed) drug dealer is more likely to be exposed to harder drugs. It's a symptom of the black market
>>707501370
There's a huge load of money in it being illegal, for certain groups of people at least.
>>707505124
Im willing to bet most of them wouldn't have been exposed to those drugs without the black market
>>707504368
Schizophrenia doesnt come on untill your 20's. You have schizoid personality disorder from downregulating you cb receptors while your brain was still developing as a teenager. Hence why thc isnt bringing on more positive symptoms from the diesease. Cbd can help schizophrenics, but thc no. Im guessing you were diagnosed as schizo with bi-polor correct? There is medical articles that state smoking while your brain is developing will inhibit symptoms resembling schizophrenia, but its not. Coming from a schizophrenic myself, managing your positive symptoms are the best you can do.
>>707508978
I'm fine. One of the people who you introduce to weed won't be though. In fact, around 80% of the friends I had that have smoked weed regularly have dropped out of school at least temporarily as a result. Maybe they had to just hula hoop at concerts while wearing native american clothing. You know, normal healthy "free-thinker" stuff.
>>707501370
>why do you think weed is illegal??
Seriously?
>weed
As in, it grows practically anywhere!
Know anyone who can corner a market on something that literally grows like weed?
weed is a fucking bullshit drug.
>2016
>weed
>i bet u pussys dont even smoke crack
>>707509700
>>707501370
You retarded assholes. Water is more dangerous than weed? Fucking brainless idiots. This is why weed should be completely banned, just makes people incredibly stupid.
>>707505586
Weed does not make you want to do harder more dopamine inducing drugs.. you're fucking retarded. We're not talking about obvious shit here, "personal choice" its not a personal choice when a group of people you've never heard about before decides whether or not you can put something in your body. They're just being greedy and short-sighted.
Now that I got that out of my system, weed is considered "the gateway drug" for the wrong reason. Weed's legality means that people usually sell weed on the side along with harder drugs. Weed doesn't make you want to go out and try heroin, but if your weed dealer catches you while stoned and offers you "better shit", then you'll get hooked on heroin.
Dumbass brainwashed idiots and greedy people trying to secure their financial interests, at the medical resourceful expense of the population.
>>707510313
(you)
>>707510511
medical and resourceful expenses*
>>707509720
If you allow people to harm themselves, that's not very nice. Everyone must be encouraged to live a healthy lifestyle, and drugs have no part in said lifestyle.
>>707501370
Coz in the 20s lumber industry realized hemp was better and knew pot was drug so "pot=ur a nigg" so when government see they make marijuana not legal and still today because fucking niggs
>>707510446
Wow, BURN.
You just told us, who could possibly argue with that sound logic backed up by all those facts you presented...
>oh man ganja isgood man why is it illegal man it should be legal man shits good for you man you know what im saying haha so stoned legalize the kush 420 so good bro
>>707510116
> One of the people who you introduce to weed won't be though
Goddamn, what happened?
>In fact, around 80% of the friends I had that have smoked weed regularly have dropped out of school at least temporarily as a result
Shit, you were a dealer weren't you? I can paint a pretty depressing picture using these kind of "comparisons" you keep making.
Man, I've been out of school for 3-4 years now and I'm paying bills, no debt, friends and building a family. If people find a way to smoke pot and dance at concerts for a living you have no right to say anything, I'm jealous as fuck at the people who do.
>>707506384
>tfw you dont eat sweets or caffeine and only go on the internet for 4chan
>>707501370
No one has ever died from speeding. Abolish all speeding laws
>>707501370
What's so appealing about being high? Don't get me wrong, I'm 100% for legalization. The only effects I get from weed is feeling slow, forgetful, and dissociated. Sure, things are a little bit funnier when you're high and music sounds great, but I don't see how weed is praised so much and how there's people who love to be high 24/7.
>>707510689
>Everyone must be encouraged to live a healthy lifestyle, and drugs have no part in said lifestyle.
Exept, alcohol and cigz and scrips, dats fine.
>>707501370
>Seriously, why do you think weed is illegal??
Because it was restricted for economic reasons by the marijuana tax act. Then Hoover started the first 'war on drugs' with it at the center because it was mostly blacks and jazz musicians who used it anyway.
But you could have found that out yourself in a few minutes if you had the ambition to use google instead of expecting us to explain it to you.
>>707511013
I do have a right to say everything I'm saying. Those people don't have the same unfortunate brain chemistry I had. They can smoke weed, think stupid thoughts, and come back and be fine. I cannot. I can never smoke again for the rest of my life or it will be a living nightmare again. No I wasn't a dealer. I never even bought weed -- my friends just gave it to me.
>>707511271
You answered your own question, friend.
>things are a little bit funnier
>music sounds great
For me it's above, along with food being great, and helping be less stressed out.
>>707501370
weed will be legal in cali nevada and 2 more states this november
>>707504726
I thought the same
>>707501370
i'm pretty sure a major reason why weed is illegal is because when it became popular black people embraced it.
it got the reputation of being a "black" drug. hence, the push to make it illegal.
>>707511518
you spend money on a drug that makes things a bit funnier? rofl, smoke meth u pussy
The legal status of harmful substances doesn't justify the legalisation of yet another.
The only reason alcohol is legal is it's impossible to control, and tobacco brings in tax money from those who are dumb enough to smoke it.
Marijuana, like alcohol, can make your psychological problems worse. And compared to alcohol, it's a lot easier to use in excess.
That said, I still think we should legalise all drugs that don't cause faggots to harm others, and just let evolution deal with users.
>>707502509
>Weed is illegal because pharmaceutical companies cannot patent it.
nonsense.
big tobacco cannot patent tobacco, but they seem to have done OK.
>>707501370
the real question is why do you want a drug that mainly niggers and fucking trash use to be legal, friendo?
I don't drink or smoke cigarettes.
They both do nothing for me. But with dregz like LSD, DMT and good bud, I actually feel stuff and feel great with no hangovers or negative effects (as of yet)
I've reassesed my priorities and now appreciate life, my friends and most importantly my family.
Everyone else just seems depressed and numb, I used to be like that too, until drugs.
Drugs are fucking brilliant man.
>>707508327
Maybe you're just a cuck
>>707502903
Found the cuck
>>707511941
Have you ever considered that you might be a fucking faggot?
>>707511941
Using the "alcohol can't be controlled meme" is a shitty justification considering they aren't able to control weed for shit either
>>707512112
Your Mom's a fucking faggot, fgt.
>>707512204
Prohibition, how did that work out?
>>707502903
My psychiatrist thinks marijuana is a medicine. She's one of the top rated in the area.
>>707511157
>No one has ever died from speeding. Abolish all speeding laws
good point , but lots of people have died from sudden stops.
>>707511518
If you need weed to get over stress and to make things taste, sound, or be more funny to your, please know you are a weak as fuck individual and should be castrated to eliminate your weak bloodline.
>>707501649
One way to get involved is to vote for people who are willing to fight to get it legalized.
>>707511013
>If people find a way to smoke pot and dance at concerts for a living you have no right to say anything, I'm jealous as fuck at the people who do.
Still saying something...
WTF did you just say?
I don't understand your ramblings at all!
And you say us pot smokers are ununderstandable? (Yes, I just made that a word.)
>be me. Successful dad raising two kids by self for over 15 years.
>spent over a decade supporting myself by travelling from concert to concert, many years before I had kids.
>Went to 49 Grateful Dead shows.
>Smoke Pot Every Day!
Still "jealous as fuck"?
>I bet you are!
>>707512333
So let's make sudden stops illegal, and open up all speed restrictions. Obviously the populace is smart enough to handle all types of speeding, since some people find speeding to be beneficial and people have sped without having incident
>>707512327
shes a stupid twat then, weed is literally shit tier drug
>>707501370
Marijuana is illegal because it was associated with niggers fucking white women. That's a 100% true statement.
I agree that weed should be legalized.
However, if you truly believe weed is harmless, you're pretty fucking stupid.
Heavy use makes most people anxious, lazy, depressed, and emotionally fragile.
However, the government doesn't have the right to ban it in my opinion.
>>707512310
I know, I'm saying prohibition and the war they have on weed right now are essentially the same thing and are equally retarded
>>707501370
ITS NOT THAT ITS LETHAL YOU FUCKWIT, ITS THE FACT THAT IF YOU CONSUME IT OVER TIME IT WILL MAKE YOUR BRAIN SLOWER.
IT FRIES UR BRAIN U FUCKING IGNORANT FUCKTARDS. ALSO DUBS!
>>707510392
I work for Hearst
>>707512980
No. You can't make marijuana in a week using ingredients used in cooking.
>>707512644
You sound like a massive fucking loser, actually
>>707512970
>the government doesn't have the right to ban it in my opinion.
actually the US government has the right to ban anything it fucking wants , except religion , free speech and guns.
>>707512776
what medical school did you graduate from?
dunning-krueger much?
just because you don't like it, does not mean others won't find it effective.
>>707511766
Except the justifications you provided (and for some reason you are fine with) could also be applied to marijuana.
>never heard of cartels
>almost anything can be taxed
>not realizing income from taxing a very popular previously banned substance can be potentially exponential.
Do you even bother to read your own posts?
I think that weed is illegal because it posed a threat to the textile industry, along with logging and especially Mr Hearst newspaper printing business. It also makes mexicans and blacks want to rape women and you go crazy.
>>707513271
Let me rephrase is fuckhead:
I don't think it should be illegal.
And they can ban/restrict guns. Motherfucker ever been to D.C.? Ever hear of the assault weapon ban? Ever been to California?
>>707512776
Oh no a 4chan /b/ user who hates weed thinks my psychiatrist is an idiot. I better listen to his highly qualified, important opinion.
>>707513766
I am very aware of cartels actually. It's still not very easy to get weed in some places, depending on where you live. Ban alcohol and EVERYONE will know 'a guy'.
>almost anything can be taxed
Legalise and tax marijuana, and everyone will grow it in their yard.
>potentially exponential
>potentially
Weed makes people satisfied with doing nothing. I think we would actually LOSE money by legalising and taxing it.
>>707513967
Also reveals a weird trend where established industries smear new innovations that relate to their field instead of embracing it cause they don't look past short term profits. Especially when the majority of "risks" of new tech is caused by lack of capital put behind it to drive it. The risk of investing is caused because no one ever invests.
>>707514652
>Legalise and tax marijuana, and everyone will grow it in their yard
i doubt this. it is cheap and easy to grow vegetables and herbs, but very few people do it. i suspect it will be the same for pot.
>>707515063
Well then I expect marijuana would have to be a lot cheaper than it is.
>>707514652
>Legalise and tax marijuana, and everyone will grow it in their yard.
Doubt it gayboi, How many people make their own booze?? And how many of their "own shit" is actually good
Imagine Government regulated dispensarys, professional grown, high THC, medicinal grade weed.
I'd rather pay than wait weeks growing my own weed that'd turn out shit/low THC.
All the exotic strains and flavors too man, have you even been in a weed shop? It's heaven on earth.
>>707502509
Pharmaceutical companies can't patent THC because the US government has had it patented since the 60's
>>707514652
>arguing the availability of marijuana from someone who doesn't smoke it
>not knowing the regulation of owning # of plants exist in legal states
>I think we would actually
>I think we
>I think
>point out speculation, then speculate myself, in said rebuttal.
Nigga, you retarded?
>>707515427
That sounds like some faggy shit
Sad to see how Reefer Madness propaganda actually worked.
>>707515427
Would you still pay, say, $100/oz if jimbo down the street offers a quality product for half that price? And once it's legal, nobody will approve of cops raiding illegal growers anymore, assuming growing to sell remains illegal, harder to enforce too.
Faggot.
>>707515183
i wonder.
because of legalization, in theory the price should get lower. but the market has already shown what it will bear, so legalization won't have much downward pressure on price. not until many producers enter the market or many people take up growing, will there be significant decrease in price.
in fact, in colorado premium strains of pot are more popular and expensive than "average" strains.
markets are not always predictable.
>>707515864
GTFO, gayboii.
>>707515427
>make their own booze
true. but making your own booze is still illegal in many places in the US
>>707516013
>decrease in price.
You say that like it's a bad thing...
I don't think it should be illegal, but I don't think it's the miracle cure everyone's touting it to be. I think it DOES have legitimate medial uses, but I also think a lot of stoners use that as an excuse to justify their very real addiction to cannabis, which, all things considered, isn't the worst thing in the world to be addicted to.
>>707516013
The use of "premium" products to justify markup happens in all industries. I live in a nonlegal state. From what I've seen, legal prices are comparatively lower than nonlegal prices.
>>707516225
nah, /b/rah. no judgement. just stating the condition of the market as i see it.
>>707516258
Weed has been proven to prevent some cancers, not all, but some.
Yes, It's not a miracle dreg, bug it does have WAY more benifits to your health than say, alcohol or cigarettes.
I have at a point in time smoked 2 oz of kush a month with no negative complications at all. The worst I got was red eyed and hungry.
>>707508327
>withdrawing from marijuana
Try dealing with withdrawals from something that your body will actually become dependent on, 15yearold fag.
>>707501370
DUDE WEED LMAO
>>707516559
>MUH ALCOHOL OR CIGARETTES
Thats the stoner defense. Weed has downsides. Bringing up another drug doesn't help your case especially when it's CONSTANTLY brought up.
>>707516559
>Weed has been proven to prevent some cancers, not all, but some.
actually, no it hasn't. there have been numerous P-hacked studies that have shown a range of positive effects for marijuana, but when careful researchers try to reproduce those studies, they fail.
marijuana can be beneficial to cancer patients undergoing chemo, as a non opioid pain reliever, and even treat PTSD, but the evidence just isn't there for the vast majority of medicinal claims.
>>707517251
This. Thank god someone with a brain in this thread.
>>707517103
Why does pointing out a MASSIVE fucking inconsistency in drug law not help my case????
Why don't we list all the bullshit reasons stoners give to justify their addiction
>MUH CANCER
>MUH CIGARETTES
>MUH TOBACCO
>MUH PLANT
The plant one always pissed me off. Morphine comes from a 100% naturally grown plant too. Poison ivy, tobacco...
>>707517251
And carbon monoxide is carcinogenic, no matter what your dealer tells you.
It's actually the main thing that causes cancer from cigarettes.
>>707517511
Pretend you're a retarded pothead who thinks god makes plants and it makes sense.
>>707517251
FUCK YOU
validate my pastime or I'm going to tear you a new asshole
>>707517515
Right, so they're both doing damage.
So we're arguing over the degrees
So why is weed still illegal, they both do damage.
>>707517794
i did validate it. i didn't validate the outlandish claims.
>>707517822
Same reason most people are okay with people being gay but hate giant flaming faggots
>>707517956
Bicch
>>707501370
Truth is it was lobbies a long time ago because Himp was a cheaper alternative for rope and the rope industry would have lost millions. So they used fear tactics to get legislation to make it illegal.
>>707518002
Semantics then.
>>707518336
Pretty much. Lazy good for nothing potheads showing up high everyday for work get the most media attention from outlets against legalization, while that's only a small portion of the stoner population. Like how white on black crime gets far more media coverage than black on white crime. Not saying either is right, but that they both happen.
>>707518007
do you mean bitch?
>>707517251
Regarding is medicinal purposes, marijuana can both harm or help, depending. There will never be any REAL psychiatric research into using marijuana medicinally, because psychiatry is funded and backed by drug companies. If all the funding is provided by drug companies, then pharmaceuticals will forever remain the best choice available for your psychiatric problems. Your psychotic hippy shaman friend can't help you, sorry.
>>707518595
Whatevz, bitch.
The reason weed is illegal:
>obvious negative side effects
>addictive
>lessons learned from big tobacco
The reasons that have nothing to do with making weed illegal:
>big pharma
>niggers
>gobernments
Weed being illegal has zero to do with pharmaceutical companies. Stoners love to say big pharma made it illegal because they can’t profit but ask them, profit from what exactly? What does weed have that would be commercially damaging?
You mean the fact people get high? Because that’s nothing, drugs that do that are not even the cash cow for pharma these days (it’s all about orphan drugs right now). So what else? That ridiculous notion weed cures all cancer? It doesn’t and if there’s something in the plant that can help do that, all a pharma company needs to do is extract that part to make a drug with its own patent and sell that.
Hell, the government not only allows that but gives grants to companies that can do it. There’s nothing in it for them to keep it illegal, the world is desperate for cures and drugs in order to drive health costs down.
The racist reasons of the past are also meaningless as to why it’s still illegal because they don’t make the negative side effects of pot disappear and the drug does lead to consumption of heavier drugs.
The reason why it’s illegal is because we learned from the past. Because nobody wants 50 years down the road have to deal with the tobacco industry reborn and redo all the shit that had to be done in order for people to see why something that feels good for a moment can kill you later.
Just ask lung cancer victims.
Source: work in pharma, tired of hearing stoners talking shit.
>>707501370
Cannabis is Illegal because it is a psychoactive drug that is not regulated.
Also smoking anything does damage to the lungs improving your risk of cancer.
>>707517511
People call it "a plant" cause without eradication efforts it grows wildly like a fucking weed, and grows in almost every climate unlike coca, tobacco, opium.
I agree that it doesn't make sense on its basis though because it's insinuating that plants can't produce destructive drugs.
A more accurate way of putting it would be "a harmless weed that grows everywhere that has to be cultivated for drugs purposes in order to get you high with little to no consequences."
>>707518977
weed is good for lung cancer so that doesn't really make any sense
>That ridiculous notion weed cures all cancer? It doesn’t and if there’s something in the plant that can help do that, all a pharma company needs to do is extract that part to make a drug with its own patent and sell that.
It's the whole cannabinoid formulation that is good for cancer, not any specific part. GW Pharmaceuticals does the same process as the people who are making BHO, rosin, rick simpson oil, etc.
People who act very "scientific" and "skeptical" are often the most naive.
Come to Uruguay, isn't illegal here
>>707502160
/thread
>>707519822
Is it gud shit?
>>707502903
I have been off it for around 8 months now. I usually give my self a long break before going back. Makes the highs come back stronger.
>>707509384
>I went from a bundle of joy to a cynical apathetic depressed asshole
It's called puberty.
>>707510689
So the government should restrict people's recreational freedoms because of encouragment to a lifestyle that in your mind must be applied to everyone, to prevent them from "harming themselves".
Sounds like good, ol' fascism to me.
>>707519705
>weed is good for lung cancer so that doesn't really make any sense
>People who act very "scientific" and "skeptical" are often the most naive.
You mean the reduction in tumor growth? Wow, you're right, we don't have anything that does that./s
And do you mean the cannabinoid formulation that can be legally patented and sold on drugs?
How does these two things provides enough of a reason for the pharma industry to make weed illegal?
>>707509384
I've had a few psychotic episodes. But I smoked synthetic weed nonstop and in extreme doses for a few weeks at a time a little while before my first. After that I just smoked the real thing. Haven't been smoking at all lately, and I've been quite sane.
Weed is something that I'd only recommend for the weekends. Alcohol is certainly worse. I avoid both.
>>707509793
Are you a physician?
No? Then shut the fuck up
>>707523597
He may not be a doctor, but at least he's smart enough to listen to them.
>>707503902
>hahaha
>HaHaHaHaHaHa
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
uneducated fagot is uneducated.
>>707504117
Challenge accepted mother fucker
>>707505124
most junkies started with tobacco
>>707524574
Irony overload.
>>707521419
You blatantly avoiding answering my points. However.
We do have chemo drugs, they're horrendous and often death sentences. While I've never had cancer levels, ive taken methotrexate before and it sucks! I cant imagine taking a cancer dose.
No i mean the 66 cannabinoid concoction from the plant which includes terpenes, phenols, and other compounds that creates a balanced cannabinoid medicine.
The profits alone are strong enough reasons to warrant large companies to fight to keep it illegal. Thats what theyre doing right now in florida and arizona.
Its designed to keep it out of the hands of the public.
>>707525664
>>707506931
>Bad trips
>Is talking about weed
Ok
>>707526106
Weed flashbacks, man.
>>707514652
Washington fag here. Can confirm that this is bullshit.
my friend and I got 2.8 g , he pitched in $15 and I pitched in $5, how do we calculate our fair share?
>>707526058
>>707502903
Psychobabble is not even a real science and is the bastard son of philosophy and biology
>>707527024
>>707527024
5/20 is .25, multiply by 2.8 to get 0.7. you get 0.7g
Weed: The only drug that doesn't harm you, but makes you the most fucking annoying cunt to anyone sober in your presence. Keep that shit outta here.
>>707508327
>1g a day
fucking summer child
>>707527185
>>707527697
lol its people like you that have psychotic problems saying shit like that and you will never even notice it.
jump in the next fire u see
>>707508327
>1 gram a day
Literally a joint or a few dabs.
>>707527697
By that same logic, crossfit shout be illegal
https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/45vb4g/eli5_why_is_marijuana_impossible_to_overdose_on/
>>707501370
because a bunch of white lawmakers in the 60s decided that marijuana makes niggers rape white women
true story
>>707502903
Will you quit coffee? Sleeping? Television? What will you give up? Why do you get to sit on some high horse and judge others?
>>707507703
So you should not even sense anything because our senses do not even fully sense the real world.
>>707507703
its like you speak of experience?... annnnd of course you aren't. gtfo
>>707507703
you dropped this
>>707528904
This is unfortunately so fucking true that if you do not educate yourselves about Anslinger & 'Reefer Madness' you will die a death of overly oppressive police-state governmental bullshit hellishness.
>>707527533
thanks, bro
>>707530305
>overly oppressive police-state governmental bullshit hellishness
Can this be a new meme?
>>707531025
this whole thread is ripe with edgy pasta fresh for the picking
>>707505354
clearly the only viable answer is to ban water
>>707531180
Pretty long-lasting shite too.
>for /b/!
>>707501370
The same goes for mushrooms, dmt, and lsd, along with many other items (more recently kratom). In weeds case, the government makes tons of money locking up weed users and dealers, and big tabacco, drug, and alchohol componies know they would lose millions if it was legalized in the u.s. so they lobby to keep it illegal. Its quite sad really.
>>707526106
I've had bad trips on super high doses of weed. Once smoked ~6gs in one sitting and i was convinced that someone was after me. Had a panic attack and all. Its easier to calm down from a bad trip on weed tho. Just put on some nice tunes
>>707517251
Yes, they did. UCSF did a study that showed THC had a slight preventative effect with breast cancers.
>>707532125
Showed that .GIF to my roommate.
She had a seizure.
Thanks fucker.
Her boyfriend almost kicked my ass, but he had to hold her down.
It may be awhile before I can go home.
I hear sirens...