Leaving all biased and personally opinions on the two aside, what makes either candidate qualified to be president? What could each offer?
>I don't know shit about politics, and i won't pretend to neither.
>>707360921
Personal*
>>707360921
>Qualified
Over 35, natural born, residency of 14 years.
>>707361377
Well played and check'd
>>707360921
Trump has shown no knowledge of how government actually works, like the limits of the powers of the president, the separation of the branches, how laws are enacted, what the senate and congress actually does, etc etc
The fucking list goes on into infinity
As a Turkish guy i wish Thrump will be the new president.
>>707362627
That's all fine and good, but answer the question. What could they bring to the table? If anything at all?
>>707362627
thanks for correcting the record
>>707362978
Well it's a good thing no one gives a shit what the Turkish want
>>707363881
thanks for outing the heinous CTR shills and re-correcting the record, 2 shekels have been deposited to your account by Nimble America.
MAGA MAGA MAGA
TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP
USA USA USA
sieg heil
>>707363881
>muh shills
>>707360921
Trump supports the constitution, Hillary wants to change it.
They are both filthy.
Clinton offers stability and that's why she will be the next POTUS.
Both are hideously unqualified.
Hillary is a reptilian whore for power. She's brilliant at acquiring power and influence. When she has it, she's ranges from barely adequate to shockingly inept.
Trump is Trump.
>>707360921
Clinton wants to fix the flaws in current policies.
Trump wants to scrap current policies and go back to the flawed policies of the past (trickle down economics, repeal healthcare laws, etc.).
There is a chance that Clinton could improve things whereas with Trump we know we'll be going back to policies that have been proven not to work. That's the main difference between the two.
>>707360921
>Leaving all biased and personally opinions on the two aside
if it were that easy we wouldn't even have elections. this shit is about who can fool enough people into thinking they'll get all the kind of puppies and rainbows they'd ever hoped for
>>707362627
Trump doesn't bring a single thing to the table. He's unqualified and dangerous. Hillary has her baggage, but she has experience at different levels of government and foreign policy.
>>707364560
Incorrect. Pure bullshit.
>>707365132
what you call stability I call a gradual downward spiral. She will continue what obama started. The slow destruction of America.
>>707360921
Hillary Clinton = More of the same failed policies
Donald Trump = Different. Not sure how it will work out, but you can't change things by going for more of the same.
Trump is my choice.
>>707366980
Males have been presidents since the USA was founded. Voting for another male is different.
>Being this fucking retarded
Grab her right in the pussy!!!
>>707362627
Some of this applies to Clinton. She's a corrupt, power hungry baby boomer that should be due for a stroke sometime soon.
>>707365132
Tell that to the Middle East
>>707367153
I found the feminist!!!
>>707360921
Trump is a big dumb insecure dummy, and maybe the ways he wants to go about doing things seem wrong, but he seems to genuinely care about improving america. Hillary is so insencere and sneaky about everything that theres no way of knowing what she really wants. If you read the wikileak emails she talks about having two sets of policies, a public set of policies and a private one, which should be a huge fucking red flag. Also in the emails are plans to help iran over israel, which should point to how her foundation takes millions from some pretty shit people. She cheated bernie sanders out of the race and has done so much corrupt shit that i dont understand how people support her anymore.
>>707367437
When was the fucking Middle East ever stable?
>>707360921
nothing they're both shit. the only thing trump has over Hillary is that Hillary has promised to be Obama² and considering how completely fucked we are after 8 yrs of him i really doubt we can survive another four. at least with the comb-over there's a chance in four year we might get a better choice. with Merkel 1.5 there won't be a US in less that 2yrs.
>>707367153
Its different where as policy goes, plus he's not pro establishment like shilldawg. Plus voting for "gender equality" won't fix the nation. America is looking to vote policy not feminist bullshit
>>707367758
In what way are we fucked as a result of his policies? Pls explain.
>>707366700
In what way are we spiraling downward? Legit curious.
>>707367685
certainly not in the past 2000 years.
>>707360921
Trump is objectively unqualified. He's a real estate mogul that specializes in marketing and bankruptcies, and acts like a disrespectful toolbag.
Clinton has been a lawyer, philanthropist, first lady, senator, secretory of state, and conducts herself like she wants the job.
>>707367685
Tbh no. But considering she toppled regimes, gave rise to ISIS through that power vacuum and let Iran and Russia dictate foreign policy and influence while preaching of America's "overreach" on the world. She set up a shit show that will dwarf the Iranian hostage crisis, The 1st Gulf War and The War on Terror
>>707366980
What policies have failed?
>>707368396
I am a white male and I am very triggered by the fact that we had Jay Z for President for the last 8 years.
>>707368396
>>707368183
The man has done nothing to stop the downward spiral we've been in for the past 20 years. And race relations are worse now than they have ever been in most of our lifetimes.
>>707368512
Knowing Trumps nature he can rebuild the Economy, on the concern of other issues he might just dump that on Congress and his advisors. Looking back at history if Trump knows what he's doing he goes with it, if he doesn't he leaves it to his cooperate advisors who have been known to make hit or miss decisions.
>>707368527
Isis has been actuve since 1999, and declared their stare in 2006, years before obama was elected to office. You claim that she gave rise to them is patently false.
>>707368541
How about NAFTA for one. And TPP is next, she says she won't pass it, but considering how hard she was metaphorically sucking Obama's dick I think she will end up passing it. Affordable health care act is also a fucking mess, probably gonna nationalize banking next and put in negative interest rates to "save the banks" to prevent another great recession like 2008. Fractional reserve banking is literally retarded, so is the Federal bullshit reserve not being a part of the government.
>>707368984
>And race relations are worse now than they have ever been in most of our lifetimes.
That's the most disgusting lie and you fucking know it.
None of these faggots has answered your question, so I will. First, his "qualified" bullshit is exactly bullshit because the only qualifications have been written down and followed for centuries. Anyone saying one candidate is/isn't qualified is using rhetoric to convince other people to agree. It's what they can/cannot bring to the table that these faggots are labelling qualified, as in skills and traits. To asses them, Trump has the benefit and detriment of being a loose canon. He could be very good in enforcing his ideals, or plain terrible. If you believe in the second amendment, then there's more reason to support him. But again, he could be terrible if he fucks it up. Theoretically, his his presence will cool the radical leftists thinking they have merit to run everyone's life with safe spaces and trigger warnings because anyone with differing opinions won't feel as cornered. With Clinton you know what you're getting. She's good if you like planned parenthood and probably won't upset world leaders, but you can expect to pay more taxes and refugees. She's also great if you support gun control, but her downsides are her equally divisive character, her sketchy past, and the fact that the media is largely favoring her. It's ultimately up to you and I encourage you to reasearch them on your own account than asking /b/.
>>707368541
1% GDP growth / stagnant economy. Health insurance rates up, deductibles up, and coverage down. Just to name a couple.
She is basically going to double-down on all of Obama's failed policies.
>>707369231
Cite it bitch, this sounds more like conspiracy type shit. Isis was a faction of Al-Qaeda that split off and became an independent organization a couple years ago http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-24179084
Hillary knows what to do as she has experience in politics.
>>707369840
Cite it? It's common knowledge. Dig up reports from 2006, google ISI formation, or better yet, just go look at the isil wikipedia entry. Plenty of citations there.
>>707369317
Then why the fuck is everyone on the left and right shining a light on this and making a deal out of it since Trayvon Martin and Mike Brown?
>>707360921
>I don't know shit about politics, and i won't pretend to neither.
then you're a fucking retard who probably can't vote
>>707362978
How is a cockroach typing?
>>707370246
Except me to believe that bullshit?
Is there still hope for Trump ? Does he still have a chance to win ?
>>707360921
The same thing that makes anyone qualified at their job.
They studied that profession and have work experience in that profession.
How many of you would hire an electrician who has never worked on electrical wire before? How many people would hire a landscaper who has never mowed a single lawn? The idea that Trump is somehow qualified to be president because he is a sub par real estate developer is a joke that only retards take seriously.
>>707370246
Technically the other dude is correct, but he's a bit early with 1999. What became ISIS splintered off from Al-Qaeda in Iraq during the second gulf war. More accurate would be 2004 or so, just a few years before they "formally" named themselves ISIS. Hillary causing them to form, or Obama for that matter, is utter nonsense though. This is the group that was so violent Al-Qaeda disowned them.
>>707370540
No.
/thread
>>707370500
From a very small computer at the Turkish embassy
>>707369606
Coverage is up, costs are up but can managed. 1% GDP growth is the direct result of repairing the loss incurred by 8 years of trickle down evonomics. We're recovering from the largest depression since the 30s, which he inhereted from the previous administration. Trump likes to compare that to China, who artificially inflated their GDP on a regular basis. Feel free to loom up Chinese ghost cities if you need to see why.
ITT: Criticize Trump in any way and be called a shill. Say anything positive about Clinton and be called a shill. Accuse the left of stifling freedom of expression because you're a giant fucking hypocrite, and also gay.
>>707361377
you seem to not know what the word qualified means. You seem to think it equals requirements.
FYI: those two words, are not synonyms.
>>707360921
> 30 years in office, millions of kids every year receiving healthcare, 9/11 healthcare bill
> $916 billion dollar loss around 20 years ago, and admits he hasn't paid taxes since. So either he's as poor as fuck compared to what he claims OR he's a tax cheat? Poor or a tax cheat?
>>707370619
Same bullshit was said about Brexit, Brazil's President being impeached and Colombia striking down the FARC agreement.
>>707370815
Those requirements are what makes you qualified, idiot.
>>707370899
Those elections we actually close, but polls indicated the result that didn't happen. Trump v. Clinton has never really been close, not by electoral college math, and now Trump is really in free fall. I expect him to get even uglier in the next few days, great fun for trumpfags, but it won't sway any undecideds. I.e. the election is over.
>>707370540
go ask the GOP
>>707370986
facepalm. You know exactly what he's saying, you aggressively autistic piece of shit.
>>707370821
What he did was ethically wrong but not illegal, any business that is drowning in debt and files for bankruptcy is allowed to not pay taxes until either the business crumples or is financially stable
dumbasses dont realize trump is in a good position right now, everyone is realizing how he is being attacked and shilled for everything which makes him a martyr in people's eyes
either he will win or there will be civil war
>>707370513
Yes, I expect you to believe the numerous legitimate new sources cited on that page. I mean, unless you want to label anything published between 2004-2008 (during the bush administration) to be anti-trump, pro-hillary propaganda, planted in the past by time traveling robots with a liberal agenda.
>>707371256
He used losses incurred by his businesses, often losses incurred indirectly by contractors, to write off personal income taxes using an obscure loophole
>>707360921
They offer nothing except not being the other one.
It is absolutely horrifying that this is the future.
>>707371292
>martyr
I knew it was a fucking cult
>>707371256
If he hasn't paid taxes since then it means he hasn't made up the 916 million he lost.
Which means he's NOWHERE NEAR AS RICH as he claims. That's his claim to fame - rich businessman.
If he has made more than that, he should have been paying taxes, and if he says he hasn't... that's illegal.
So which is it, Trump? Poor or tax cheat?
>>707371292
Lol a good position. His campaign manager and vice president are cancelling appearances, his party is split down the middle on whether or not to support him. Sure buddy.
>>707370787
>Bush's fault
Mmmkay but nope. 7.5 years in, it's time for Obama to own this mess.
>>707370899
Brexit narrowly passed, so no. .
There is literally no evidence Trump is going to make headway in the Electoral College.
None. Keep talking shit faggot. Keep expecting others to eat it.
>>707369010
>he can rebuild the Economy
Not a chance. Look at how he has pissed his own money away. He can't even keep pace with the S&P 500. From a financial perspective, that's absolutely pathetic.
>>707360921
At this point, ii's to late to be concerned that they are both manifestly unqualified to be president. They both are, in fact, unqualified, but one of them will be elected. The only question still on the table is, which will be worse.
>>707368773
so you point out the fact that Bush handed Obama a country in a recession?
I also love how the source is just Harvard University and makes no mention of studies, sites, where the figures came from, or anything meaning these are all likely BS made by some faggot from /pol/.
It also is hilarious how arbitrary the arrows are. None of them correspond to Obama's presidency. Hell half of them start in the 70's.
This is why morons like you should not be allowed to vote. I for one propose a minimum IQ of 100 to vote to stop people like you from being given a voice.
>>707371719
Remind us again how Hillary is unqualified
>>707371292
I am starting to think that just maybe he has something in his back pocket on Hillary.
And he is going to wait about a week before the next debate to unleash it - you know, like SOMEONE did to him this week.
Trump lost money on CASINOS. You know... where the house never loses??
If he can lose money on casinos, how can he run a country?
>>707371180
Prior to the first debate he was leading in the polls nationally and had edges over her in key swing states. He especially won it when Clinton's deteriorating health made it on main stream media. But now that the media is shilling for Hillary with the debates and the recent Trump sound bite released they covered little of the Wall Street speech transcripts leaked and will ignore further leaks till election day. Its not over until November i8th CTR fag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceJldaor7nI
Alex Jones turns on Trump! He's now for Johnson I think.
People are saying they aren't saying what their policies are but he's been spouting off about immigration and his wall all along.
I think he had most of America at that one
>>707371250
No anon, we don't know what he is trying to say.
What do you think makes someone qualified? Oh wait, no one gives a shit.
>>707371966
another clueless trumpfag clutching at straws that never existed. Never in 15 months has Trump had anything but a narrow and unlikely path to winning. Learn how your election system works before you spout ignorant nonsense, you pathetic microcock autist.
>>707371428
Yet you fags prance around like this shit is illegal, in all honesty its ethically wrong, but in no case is it illegal. You cunts act like he purposely bankrupted a multibillion dollar corporation just so he could reap in Tax benefits and evade taxes
>>707372261
autism: the post
>>707372310
no one said it was illegal, you autistic baby
>>707372310
>You cunts act like he purposely bankrupted a multibillion dollar corporation just so he could reap in Tax benefits and evade taxes
That's exactly what he did, actually.
And Trump is going to be charged and convicted with fraud when this is all over.
>>707371966
The reality of the electoral college makes electing a republican who can't court the mexican/ LGBT vote almost impossible.
This has been the case since the very beginning, which is why Trump's chance of winning was never greater than Hillary's, even when he was slightly in the lead nationally.
>>707371850
inb4 durr scandals durr emails durr Google it durr durr durr
>>707371250
>Arbitrary scrutinies based off opinion are what qualifies someone for president over objective nonpartisan fields established by the constituion
K
>>707360921
Niether one is qualified.
Neither could win an election against a fucking signpost planted in the ground.
Funny enough, this is actually the very sort of scenario everyone thought for a very long time would be the ideal time to field a viable 3rd party candidate and have them gain some traction.
Unfortunately for us all, they're individually both so fucking horrible everyone's terrified into voting against the more awful, which depending on your taste in trolls, is either on any given day.
So american simpletons who can only see the world in good & evil, black & white, etc, continue to drag us down.
Is this a continuation of that American hate thread that Euro cuck started?
Hillary wants higher taxes to pay for mudslimes free ticket thru life and kill the 2nd ammendment
Pretty much all you need to know
>>707371624
You realize polls indicated that it was gonna fail miserably when 82% voted in favor of staying yet the media went apeshit went leave won. Polls don't mean shit anymore. And what do you mine by electorial college you cunt, the results haven't been finalized and you act like its already November 8th already.
>>707372713
>Niether one is qualified.
jsut shut up
Clinton has experience as a Senator and Secretary of State.
Stop. Lying.
>>707372310
You're right, he bankrupted his companies because he is grossly incompetent and unable to admit his own mistakes.
>>707361377
while objectionable, those are literally the only qualifications for the job.
Our founding fathers were fools, for underestimating our stupidity.
>>707372817
>Implying that makes her qualified
>>707371966
Delusional. Look at poll aggregator sites like RealClearPolitics, HuffPo Pollster, FiveThirtyEight....
He arguably had a 1pt lead right after his convention, and just before hers. But at no other point in this entire campaign has he ever led her. She's the blazing hot favorite right now.
Trump supporters loved his bluster last night. But only his own camp was impressed by him calling her a devil, talking about the great evil in her heart, and how he'd lock her up. To everyone else, it looked like a freaking witch trial... through which she was dignified and restrained. All she needs to do now is hold it steady and coast to victory.
>>707372796
The only states that could change are Pennyslvania, Ohio and Florida.
And even if they go to Trump, Clinton wins.
Stop being a faggot.
>>707371621
Uhhh, just to put his in perspective this is a chart of the US GDP from 1998 to present. That dip is the recession caused by Bush which Obama inhereted in 2008. Our current GDP is a result of the global shift in economics caused following the BREXIT vote. Everyone (except Japan) took a hit frrom that. It'/ not a result of his policies relating to healthcare or any other domestic spending. However, it should be noted that republicans in congress voted to block 2.5 billion which would have been used to help offset the cost of premiums for residents in many states (most of which are red states.) Their refusal to play ball helped pave the way for the current state of healthcare. No president will be able to fix these issues with the ability to reach across the isle.
>>707372900
yeah actually it does
it means Clinton knows the ins and outs of government and has been trained in the art of negotiation with heads of state.
Trump, not so much.
>>707372871
>More pointless opinionated rhetoric
>>707372414
Tell that to NY Times and the Clinton news network. And if you admit to it not to it not being illegal why bitch about it you dick sucking nu-male?
>>707372713
You miss that the third party candidate does not automatically deserve support just because he is from a third party -- the Libertarians nominated a guy who cannot name any world leaders and does not know what a leppo is. Had they nominated somebody who was not as retarded as the two major party candidates, this might well have been a great time to make a move. But they forgot to nominate a non-moron.
>>707372713
Wow, just realized if Gary Johnson wasn't such a fucking retard he probably could have stood a chance in the election.
>>707373015
See>>707361377 being senator has jack shit to do with qualification for the job.
>>707363881
what record?
lol, what correction?
do you even know what words mean, or do you just say them because you heard them somewhere and thought they sounded cool?
>>707373137
yeah it actually does
just because someone simply is older than 35 does not mean they should be President
>>707372737
If you don't already hate America you haven't been paying attention.
The problem some Americans are having with the election is that they're either ignorant to what is happening in the rest of the Western world or they're too lazy to care because they haven't been taken over by an unelected nanny state yet.
Take a good long look at Europe and if you decide that's what you want for your country, vote Hillary.
>>707373256
If you hate America at all you're a dipshit
Hillary just has to watch out for Trump's 'second amendment people' and she is golden.
Half this thread will be put into Clinton Re-Education Programs by 2018.
>>707366700
>tfw you realize obama didnt actually start anything, but picked and chose what shit other people and presidents and organizations have been working on for years to interject on and guide toward being reflective of the popular opinion of the time
>>707373527
see what?
Trump is not qualified to run this country. He has no known plan other than tax cuts, and has absolutely no demonstrated ability to work with Senators, Congressmen, Cabinet members or any of the other various agencies Clinton has had dealings with.
You're just being a cringing retard at this point.
>>707371292
I hope to fuck you idiots try it.
We could use a good reason to purge the country of you fucking backward hayseeds.
>>707373002
> with being able to reach across the isle.
Meant without, but that's to say, fixing the issue would be a lot better than trying to scrap it and replace it with the unregulated healthcare policies we had before which allowed companies to discriminate based on age, pre-existing conditions, etc. People are stupid and fail to understand how important that is until they or someone they know has been fucked by it.
>>707373572
>Trump's 2nd Amendment People
Actually they had better be watching out for the BATF or the US Army if they try any shit
>>707373208
It comes from a pac called Correct the Record that plans to smear Trump and pull Clinton on the pedestal by painting her as a person who is misunderstood and fit for the Presidency
>>707373809
yeah b-b-but COMPETITION. If we get a bunch of unregulated fly-by-night across state lines "insurance" companies going, EVERYONE would be insured!!
>>707373779
This, I would love to see the shortest civil war in world history go down in some southern shithole.
>>707373908
Actually "Correct the Record" wouldn't have been launched if 95% of the attacks against Clinton hadn't been cringing conspiracy theories and "scandals."
>>707372780
it's funny cause if you look at the faces of the founding faggots, Old Bill in this pic could easily be one of them.
Makes me wonder if any of them would have survived an election in the information age, or they'd all be waiting for 300 rape charges to drop.
>reminder rape was socially acceptable if you were rich, politician, rockstar, movie star, or a mans man, up through about the early 70s. And again through most of the 80s.
o glorious times
>>707373779
Like I'd expect a beta liberal faggot like you to pick up a gun, much less shoot one.
>>707373768
Donald Trump:
Born June 14th, 1946 (over 35, qualified)
Im Queens, NYC, USA (Natural born, qualified)
Current residency 14+ years (qualified)
Nothing about tax returns, nothing about the things he says. Both candidates are equally qualified.
>>707372829
lol
bc I then posted:
>>707372871
>>707374110
Don't need to. That's why we have law enforcement and the military.
And you faggots will be slapped down just like the Freemen were.
>>707373078
>A leppo
I may sound like an ignorant fucktard...
but what the fuck are leppos?
>>707360921
>TL:DR no good option
Trump has pretty much adopted all of the establishment right wing policies, and put "the wall" as the icing on top. Still plays the same old tactics of "You better be scared of _____ (insert: gun grabbers, terrorists, health care costs, gays, minorities, socialism.)" Unfortunately he has also topped that off with denying climate change, opposing breaking up internet provider monopolies, and has shady friends in Russia.
Hillary literally is just playing the game of "Well I'm not that idiot over there" and it works very well for her. I don't think anyone actually trusts her or believes her to push a progressive agenda... they just see Trump as VERY regressive.
>>707374180
>Both candidates are equally qualified.
Trump is not qualified to work or deal in government.
Clinton is. Stop being a pedantic faggot fuck.
https://youtu.be/28fwIJ1yopg
Mother fucking this.
>>707374110
>republitards are gun nuts and manly
>liberals means democrats and are all limp wristed faggots
>my understanding of the world is a cartoon
Way to be a boring, entirely typical disappointment, anon.
>>707374282
>I don't think anyone actually trusts her or believes her to push a progressive agenda.
Actually most of us are going to elect her precisely because she is pushing that agenda.
You're just another guilty until proven innocent conspiracy retard who wants a wedgie really bad.
>>707371256
He openly admits to and brags about doing "ethically wrong but not illegal" things all the fucking time. Is this someone you want as President?
>>707374282
People see him as less trustworthy too.
I think most people see her as centrist, which is what she is. And that's a damn sight better than batshit fucking right wing insane.
>>707371559
some people done understand what being rich actually means. In Trumps case It doesn't mean he sleeps on pillows of cash, it means he owns things and has many accounts and investments that when added up would equal a lot of money. I know people like Trump. Trump has people that work for him that manage his finances and if he needs some cash he has to make a phone call to someone who can sell something for him so he can have cash.
>>707374065
First off this is 4chan were talking about its not like were popular or can sway elections. CTR is not only going after us, but also expanding its reach on to Social media and comment sections of Main Stream Media sites to turn the tide and revives Clinton's 30 year long career of fucking up and being accused of sketchy shit. Trump maybe a jackass but at least he can fight back, unlike Clinton who needs a paid army to correct her image
>>707362627
Anyone could be a politician; a president's only job is to make decisions on behalf of the people and/or party he represents
>>707373078
>libertarian
>not retarded
pic related
>>707374566
if you really think any future candidate isn't going to put tons of money into social media to get votes, you are truly a clueless retard/
>>707374295
Stop trying to use your biased rhetoric. Unless you're a SCOTUS judge and other judges agree with you, you can't define the constitution based on your opinions and expect people to take you seriously. They're both equally qualified and that's final a la the fabric of our country. Please take a civics class.
>>707374295
7 years of preparation training and 50 years of economic work beg to differ you filthy nigger, kill yourself.
>>707374110
Actually a vet, but hey, don't want to make any waves in your idiotic simpleton ideology.
You realize, we're not sent around the world to kill liberals, right? It's people like you, in every *other* country in the world we're tasked with hunting.
>>707374569
just shut up
how many times are you going to repeat this same cringing argument?
>>707374440
Rather have that, than someone who has had career in politics, gets caught in scandal and lie and tries to deny and censor it
>>707374664
"preparation training" for what?
another bankruptcy?
kek
>>707360921
I'm not really caring about who is more qualified at this point; just seeing who is going to respond better to Vladimir Putin's current play of "Civilization". I already saw Hillary and Obama's turn on the global field, so now I think the tables should turn.
>>707360921
I don't think Trump can bring anything positive. He seems like the kind that will try to force his ideals in a government where majority rules. He'll throw a tantrum if he doesn't get his way. Then cause instability. I don't see any progress coming out of a term from him. Only regression and a halt. Probably veto everything.
Hillary. Well she can hold us stable until the next election where we get our heads out of our asses and boot both of these cunts out. We elect her then we get rid of that "need to elect first woman pres woo" bullshit. Haven't seen any dangerous policies she has that will be detrimental. Refugees that come know we have the most armed people so we will kill on sight.
Hillary is the better choice. Not saying she will be great. But it's like deciding between take the load in the ass or in the mouth. I'd rather the mouth. Less messy and easier to clean. I orefer not to but have no choice.
>>707374194
To which I replied>>707373019
>>707374242
Aleppo is a city in Syria widely considered the epicenter of the refugee crisis. It's probably one of the most important cities for anyone who has any say in foreign policy (for example the fucking President) to at least know about.
>>707374746
>gets caught in scandal and lie and tries to deny and censor it
you're welcome to show me where Clinton was
A. Charged with perjury
B. Charged with Obstruction of Justice
C. Charged with any crimes
we'll wait
>>707374866
yeah but if Johnson got elected he'd just have an aide fill him in
no big deal
kek
>>707372817
>Stop. Lying.
Tell that to your candidate.
Why shouldn't i vote for 3rd party
>>707374699
>tfw conservatives can easily see what's wrong with conservatism in every other country in the world, but not themselves, while taking credit for the progressive innovations liberalism has brought us
lololololol
>>707374974
OH WOW TRUMPFAG IS SO FUNNY
OH FAGGOT I"M DYING
DYING FAGGOT
>>707375018
Because they're a fucking joke.
>>707374439
Its no secret actual liberals and libertarians have no love for Hillary , that's what the primary was all about.
Shillary barely qualifies as neocon.
>>707374533
Lol, Trump would be richer now if he had invested all his inherited money in an index fund and sat on his ass the rest of his life.
So don't act like he's a genius. I know full well that he has assets... I also know he's as shady as fuck. He's completely amoral and obviously out for #1 and no one else, despite his incompetence. If you lose on casinos, you have no business running a country.
being a successful business man makes trump qualified to be president.
>>707374646
Its one thing to get out the vote ad and links, its another thing have paid people to censor and attack other people on social media that should be an outlet of freedom of speech you autistic bastard
>>707375031
I don't even support Trump I just thought what you said was ironic. You need to calm down.
And take your finger off the shift key to type punctuation you dipshit.
>>707375067
Why?
>>707375074
>Shillary barely qualifies as neocon.
I wouldn't even go there. She admitted she fucked up with Iraq. Name any other major player during the time who apologized for supporting it.
Likewise with Iran. She didn't push to bomb it, she got them to agree to a deal the international community supports and enforces.
>>707375031
Shit like this is why we have Autism Awareness month
>>707375109
yeah well there's literally no proof of that happening
you should stop believing screenshots of /pol/ are "evidence" of anything
kek
>>707374864
good conversation, anon.
welp, time to do something more productive. like stretch out my anus, and take 7" of squirting dogcock jammed in it
>>707374242
A "leppo" is an Trump fanatic who has completely given up and has realized that a vote for Gary Johnson is a vote that doesn't equate to a complete lie.
>>707375166
Both Johnson and Stein are dipshits, and their respective parties aren't polling worth a shit.
Do you really need someone to tell you this??
>>707375228
OH FUCK TRUMPFAG
SHIT I'M BUSTING A NUT
I'M DYIN I'M DYIN
OH FUCK YOU CONSERVATIVE FAGGOTS ARE FUNNY
FUNNY AS SHIT
FUCK
I'M DYIN
DYIN HEE-UH
>>707374231
>That's why we have law enforcement and the military.
Except neither of these are obligated to come rescue you. A gun, when well maintained, is obligated by the laws of physics to put a hole in Mr. Bad Guy. Would you like to see the court ruling that says they don't have to endanger their lives to assist you (even though that is precisely what you seem to be expecting)? I'm positive I can find it.
>>707375155
It would be ironic if Clinton actually did lie, but you faggots get awfully mad when asked what perjury charged were served to Hillary, so I won't ask.
>>707375074
She's so conservative she's inherited the status quo candidacy, since Trump torpedoed the GOP vote replacing status quo with crazy ranting.
That's why staunch career GOP brass who've spent decades painting her as satan are siding with her. Devil you know.
>>707375451
oh haha no faggot
if you tiny-dicked gun fags even think of trying any shit
you will be gunned down
all of you
make no mistake
>>707374866
I know what Aleppo is, I just had no idea what leppos were. Did you read my post?
>>707369542
well said
>>707375351
Thank you. Really. Explain a bit more. I just want a better understanding. I think I'm gonna go with trump
>>707375599
Alrighty then, nothing of substance to say? Cool, glad we talked.
>>707375700
>I think I'm gonna go with trump
you do that dipshit
lol
>>707375444
You finally learned how to type an apostrophe while writing in all caps, so congrats I guess. What a waste of good trips though.
>>707375351
You know why they're not polling worth a shit? Because you and millions of others just like you say they don't have a chance. But guess what? It's your fault they don't have a chance.
>>707360921
Reminder that Obongo was a sissy college professor who studied how to destroy the Constitution before serving one term as a Senator for Shitcongo and somehow that made him qualified enough to shit all over us for eight years. Trump was more accomplished by the time he was 35.
>>707375762
oh there will be substance
a red sticky substance known as blood
in large large quantities if you stupid gunfags try any shit
>>707360921
Trump will focus on economics mostly foreign policy economics. His main goal is to decrease the deficit no matter how politically incorrect he may be. This would mean breaking old Post WWII treaties and trading with markets that are not dominated by American goods. Hillary is focused on bringing forth a better standard of living for the Average American. This would mean earning higher wages, greater help from the government in loans, lowering the reserve limits on banks. This may cause our GDP to decrease but as a citizen you can decide.
>>707375766
OH FUCKING FUCK MY BALLS ARE SORE FROM LAUGHING TRUMPFAG OH JESUS MY BALLS
MY BALLLLLLLLLLLLS
>>707375700
It won't make a difference.
>>707375834
>Obongo
LEL
>>707375844
>His main goal is to decrease the deficit no matter how politically incorrect he may be. This would mean
cutting the fuck out of social programs until the country riots.
Is that REALLY what you want to happen?
>>707375268
If your fucking literate I suggest you take 5 minutes out of shitposting job for CTR to read this
Trumps denial of the existence of climate change alone is enough to disqualify him, though at this point there's a good chance we're fucked regardless of who's in office.
Also, as entertaining as Trump's colorful off the cuff remarks may be, they'll only prove disastrous when it comes to foreign policy and international relations. The politically correct and calculated language used by high ranking politicians may feel frustratingly dishonest, but at the same the time the sitting President of the United States needs to actually have some ability to use measured and diplomatic language when operating on a global stage. Single sentences uttered by the leader of the free world can potentially set back relations with both allies and adversaries by years.
Trump's made numerous remarks that are extraordinarily dangerous. Suggesting that he would fire on the Iranian Navy for taunting a US ship. Insinuating that he may not come the aid of NATO allies if they were attacked, or Japan for that matter.
Even in Sunday's debate, he seemed to be suggesting we need to engage in another nuclear arms race with Russia. There's literally nothing on the planet that poses a greater threat to our very existence than the proliferation of nuclear weapons. We had multiple close calls to absolute annihilation and starting a 2nd cold war is a great way to hasten the extinction of humanity.
Trump's loose cannon, wannabe tough guy rhetoric might play well with macho alt-right goons and /pol/ trolls, but on the global stage it would be a catastrophe.
>>707376026
but I trust spiders
especially Spiders from Mars
>>707376050
I don't need to do anything. You're talking shit and I will continue to point out your are an embarrassing retard and a useful idiot.
>>707375943
dey drink it in de Congo
>>707360921
Hilary is blod thirsty dog who can't manage email account. Trump is rich mono who has billions in real estate alone.
All things considered trump is lesser evil. Don't let lefty media vote for you. Noone is worse than Hillary.
>>707367153
>voting for someone because they have a vagina.
>you never go full retard
Lazy, inadequate shill. CTR must be getting desperate to hire weak minded followers like you.
>>707376211
I said doc-tor...
>>707376050
>if your fucking literate
>your
kek
>>707376225
>CTR
do you fap to these three letters as soon as you get up?
Faggot you are obsessed, js
>>707376038
Yes it is one of the reasons I do not support him. Just stating my opinion on his main apparent goal.
>>707360921
http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=51277
>>707376099
I'm voting third party because fucked them both
>>707376218
Autism: the Gathering
3rd ftw
>>707376427
English, motherfucker...
>>707375018
>>707366700
>Slow destruction of America
You mean rebuilding the financial stability of the middle class and cleaning up the mess that Bush left for him? Nice bait but save all stupid uninformed shit for /pol/ please.
>>707376054
>though at this point there's a good chance we're fucked regardless of who's in office.
why would that be?
>>707362627
Fuckin feminist
>>707370812
Defeated shill detected. Lost your CTR script? No shekels for you today.
>>707376844
Nimble America has deposited 25 rubles into your account
Hello. I am a liberal who believes in strict gun control.
>>707376844
Not everyone who disagrees with you is a paid shill. You'll discover that on election day when your piece of shit excuse for a candidate loses by a landslide.
>>707360921
Disqual:
1 Allow ambassador core to be slaughtered
2 pay to play gubbiment favors
Frankly after all his failed business ventures, his refusal to release his tax returns, and seeing his returns from 1995 that reported a $916 million loss, I'm quite convinced Trump is not as rich as he says he is. He knows very little about government or international affairs and simply does not have the knowledge or temperament to be the most powerful person in the world. You know he filed for bankruptcy 5 times right? Have you even heard of Trump University? The guy is a professional.
You know what he's good at? Building an image. It doesn't matter if it's true that he's rich, because he's gotten everyone to think he is. The right media is just as bad.
>>707368773
>All I care about is arrows pointing down: the post
>>707377130
1. Post a link as to what charges were brought against Clinton for Benghazi.
2. Prove any "pay to play" actually happened and show any official reprimand against her
I'll wait
>>707370365
It's hard to say if race relations are that bad now, or if people are simply talking more about it since we see this all the time in the medias. One thing's for sure, it used to be much worse in the 80s/early 90s.
This moment right here. This. Look at it. Hillary laughs at Donald, a chuckle like she's watching an edgy child. All of Donald's temper tantrums amounts to literally nothing, Nothing. Zero. Donald is in the space of a true Alpha, look at that ease. That composure. That temperament. That smile...
>>707377134
He is right ya know. Maybe not voting is best
>>707377493
not voting is a vote for Trump, actually
He's never governed a bill.
>>707376995
Hello, I too am a liberal, with three shotguns, a rifle, a revolver and a big motherfucking desert eagle pile of shit that's just for blowing up stumps with for shits and grins, and I'll bet I'm wayyy more fucking pro-gun control than you.
These things are not fucking toys, and do not belong in every last persons hands. There are a lot of dangerously unstable people in this country who should not have access to them whatsoever.
>>707377467
She's used to the pattern now, that Donald just "has to talk." He was a total dipshit last night as always.
>>707375351
>You shouldn't vote for them because few people vote for them
Basically what you said. However since I know jackshit about them, care to explain why they're "dipshits", and Trump/Clinton aren't?
>>707360921
gr8 b8 m8
>>707377597
You can't stand up to his knowledge though>>707377134
everyone knows he's right
>>707360921
They'll both do pretty much the same shit if elected op.
It' seems who you elect for mayor, city council and other local officials will have a much deeper impact on your life than either of those two ass clowns will ever have. Read your local newspaper , understand local issues and ignore the tabloid level coverage of national politics. You will be steess free and actually making your vote have an impact on your life of you do that.
Gary fucking Johnson
>>707377753
you're considering voting for people you know "jack shit" about?
k
>>707377658
Liberal here with three guns. 2nd amendment fags are lobbyist shills.
The last time I listened to a debate with these two it was more like a talk show or comedy, something scripted from TV. They insult each other non stop and talk about personal subjects which won't benefit the country any way whatsoever. It couldn't be more obvious that Hilary will win. Both candidates serve money and corporate power and all future presidents will as the corruption of the country grows, and in the near future it will collapse so history can repeat itself once again. Your economic masters have made it apparent that they want Hilary as your president by having her competition be as offensive as possible. It is a subtle and not so subtle technique to rig the election. Its like asking to vote for Satan or Hitler. Everyone knows the choice for either will one again doom the country, but no one is doing anything about it. Our forefathers would have been dragging these leaders and powers that be from their homes and hanging them in the streets. Our current generation will pretend everything is fine for the comfort of television and car loans
>>707377761
yeah agree, Trump sucks.
So why would you want to sit out the election when your vote is just as important to defeat Trump?
>>707377867
Third party m8
>>707377932
Why 3? Do you juggle them occasionally?
>>707371951
thanks for correcting the record.
>>707377977
>However since I know jackshit about them,
you really need to do your homework
js
>>707377951
Trump sucks does not equate to another candidate deserving my vote. Clinton sucks too.
>>707377951
Then why not third-party
>>707378051
THANK YOU FOR HOLDING THE PENIS
HOLDING THE PENIS IS PARAMOUNT IN THESE CRITICAL ERECTION TIMES
>>707377746
>Give him enough rope to hang himself.
He can't help but fuck his own shit up. She's never been bullied in her career. Trump is an amateur-level political noob.
>>707377467
I will say, diarrhea of the mouth is really wild to see in a presidential candidate. Rounding up illegals and muslims in boxcars and whatever else, I can deal with, cause he's not going to convince a congress much less the joint chiefs to go along with even 1% of what he's said, but I mean, just imagine that rambling incoherent ranting on the other end of the phone from every fucking world leader who rose through their treacherous ranks of playing geopolitical chess.
that'd be like 1.21 niggawats.
>>707377658
Do I smell mental illness discrimination?
>>707378144
>Clinton sucks too.
Actually she doesn't, her policy is the most appealing progressive legislation in 50 years and shit-tons of people (and states) are going to push her right over the top, including me.
>>707376683
We (humans) are guaranteed to release a boatload more CO2 in the coming decades, and we're already past 400 parts per million, somewhere the planet hasn't been in several million years.
It may not matter whether we have Hillary's likely ineffectual attempts to significantly reduce carbon emissions vs Trump's likely non existent attempts. Still, in at least with Hillary we have a commander in chief who's actually scientifically literate enough to recognize a problem exists.
>>707360921
Trump understands how businesses operate (regardless of all the propaganda that is being pumped into mainstream media by 24/7 Hillary campaign adds).
Because of this, he DOES know how our tax system works and who has what and which hands are up the skirts of which officials (moving their mouth's like a puppet).
Trump is NOT bought and paid for and is NOT an experienced politician. This is a double edged sword sure, but so far everyone seems to focus on the bad.
If Trump has a poor understanding of our governmental system, then the damage TO our country is limited (he doesn't know how to exploit such a system).
He IS surrounded by powerful individuals who can advise him (his cabinet) but that is about it. Which means his impact will be minimal and response to crisis may not be as weak as people assume because of advisers.
Hillary on the other hand has had 30+ years of experience in government. She too knows the inner workings of our system, but from a political standpoint. She is also ambitious (as Trump claimed) and she has proven time & again that she is corrupt.
She will play the system like a harp and fuck this country up in such a profound way, that we won't even know how hard we have been fucked until she is out of office.
So no, Clinton is not the "lesser of two evils".
She is Frank Underwood from house of Cards but more unstable and more corrupt.
>>707378144
same
fuck the dnc, fuck the gop
Voting not at all, or for whatsertits stein as a middle finger to both of em
>>707377867
I'm not even american you inbred. I expected you to explain to me why those third party are bad, since you claimed to know so much. You instead went full retard.
>>707360921
>>I don't know shit about politics, and i won't pretend to neither.
If you don't know shit about politics and you're coming to /b/ for info, I really hope you don't vote at all
Common misconception that everyone should vote because MTV told people that in the 90s. If you can't pay attention or care (even just logically) about the presidential race, then don't mess with it.
>ib4boner
>>707378165
Because Stein and Johnson have proven themselves to be total dipshits not worthy to be elected President, mainly.
What other reasons do you need?
>>707378358
>Actually she doesn't,
oh shut the fuck up i mean jesus christ
>>707378262
He makes promises that only plebs believe, that have no basis in reality. Mexico will pay for the wall!! How did that go in Mexico? American voters are not going to fall for that shit, and the polls prove it.
>inb4 polls are biased it's a worldwide conspiracy!!!!!!
>>707372594
>LGBT vote
Hahahahahahahahahahahaahaha
No one gives a shit about your sexual orientation.
>Mexican vote
LEGAL Mexican immigrants are for Trump because he'll keep out the illegal cheaters that didn't take the time to get a visa like the majority of Mexican immigrants.
When this is all over, the shills should be lined up and shot.
>>707378279
yes
repubs gtfo lol
>>707378360
Yeah actually this, you're right about climate change, but arguably having someone in charge of the US who acknowledges it's real and is open to solutions as to what to do about it means we very likely could have caught it in time, and could reduce emissions as recommended.
>>707378446
>I'm not even american
good
shut up
>>707360921
i like how it has to get to the point of the shit storm that is the election of 2016 for America to realize that a two party system is embarrassing.
>>707360921
Trump some pretty sick comebacks
>>707378446
>doesn't know anything about the subject he's talking about
>accuses other posters of going full retard
kek
>>707378688
>p-please shut up you bully
>>707378506
wow faggot is triggered
>>707378616
>implying you yourself should be shot
why wait, just shoot yourself now and save us all some time and government spending
>>707378358
Sure that's what she says. Problem is, she's is a liar and I'm not a communist anyway so even if I believed her lies...
Trump and her will do the same stuff in office... play world police, incarcerate 7% of the population, deficit spend, corporate well fare, I'll while "thinking of the children".
It really does not matter to me which one wins.
>>707360921
One is not the other.
It's literally the only qualification either has. Trump tops it by not currently being a blatantly corrupt felon within the government... but only because he's not a part of the government yet.
It's like choosing which STD to have. Enjoy yourselves America! This is the result of letting your elected representatives choose their own county borders (gerrymandering) leading to cushy re-elections and partisan support with no chance of moderate leadership.
>>707378760
why the fuck should I care what some Europoor thinks about 3rd parties? He (you) doesn't know shit.
>>707378595
>What are Tariffs
>What is Trade rights and taxation
>How desperate is Mexico on American trade? Can they switch trade overnight? Build an entire shipping industry robust enough to shift trade to Europe or China instead of America?
LOL You have 0 understanding of economics.
I personally hate the idea of a wall, but he is not wrong when he says he can make Mexico pay for it. Because with trade restrictions, Tariffs, ect... one way or another mexico will pay for it.
>>707378758
I was asking a question. Why are you so triggered?
>>707378898
You'll still bitch about Clinton like any butthurt social conservative, I'm sure.
>>707378758
Not same guy but....
>>707378983
because you can google it for yourself dipshit
>>707379099
>Not same guy
>implying it matters
if you don't know about what the 3rd party candidates stand for, you are a dipshit.
>>707379143
The dubs don't lie bro.
>>707379099
>>707378939
You need a hug dude. I don't think anything about 3rd parties. I wanted to know why, in your opinion, they were bad. Looks like you don't know shit as well. You're just a blind trumptard or hillshill.
>>707379239
I do. I am just not retarded enough to think that either 3rd party candidate is as bad as Hillary or Trump.
But that obviously doesn't matter. Because you are already bias AF for Shillary.
>>707379320
>I wanted to know why, in your opinion, they were bad.
Why do you care? You could fucking Google "Jill Stein Criticisms" and just SHUT
THE FUCK
UP
>>707379381
>Shillary
faggot
>>707378801
Seriously retard. If you can't see that Hillary sucks golfballs through a straw, then you're either a kid, and don't remember the last 25 years of her, or you're so far gone to the extreme of useful idiocy that few are going to agree with you whatsoever.
Hillary couldn't win against a mop leaning in a bucket. The only reason she's even standing there is because the GOP fucked up and inexplicably let someone somehow even worse run against her.
These are the two least popular, least liked political candidates with the lowest approval rating in the history of elections since we've been keeping track of the data.
Get over it, Hillary sucks ass to most people. We've seen her optimistic shit before and her inability to do it without a supermajority. You're not going to convince anyone she's something new. She's the same, just older and even more out of her depth.
>>707360921
Hillary has experience, but that's negated by the fact that she's negligent and corrupt.
>>707379485
>Hillary couldn't win against a mop leaning in a bucket.
Actually Clinton has had a lead in the Electoral College since her nomination as candidate, so no.
Go be a fat boring wall of text someplace else.
>>707379572
>negligent and corrupt.
source: my ass.com
>>707379612
learn how to fucking read to the end of a sentence you god damn dope
>>707379468
OH SNAP! He called me a faggot.
How original....
>>707379433
>>707379688
Maybe put the really stupid shit at the end next time.
>>707379071
I do when I haven't got much sleep and can't think clearly. Then I remember the guy I supported for city council that's actually working on a good transportation pan for my city to reduce traffic. Every day after that project is complete, my commute will be much smoother allowing me to enjoy more of my life. Things like that matter and who sits in the white house will have much less impact. Yet, turnout in my last local election was 10% because of chucks like yourself who care more about tabloid Bullshit national politics when you don't even know what's going to happen 2 miles from your house.
>>707379734
>durr y 3rd partees
>durr i dun no about them
>google dem fer meez
kek
>>707379809
Turnout was 10% because you live in a shithole, probably a Republican stronghold.
>>707377452
True I feel like Racial issues aren't a problem but the media and politicians have brain washed Americans to fight one other based on the color of their skin and politically ideology. In short humanity is garbage
>>707379654
The real source is every single email leak and piece of information from wikileaks so.....
That shit prob. frightens you huh? Knowing more baggage is coming hillarys way in 6-7 days.
>>707379981
>but the media and politicians have brain washed Americans to fight one other based on the color of their skin
lol
>>707375536
>lying
>getting caught lying
those are two different things anon.
>>707380020
Found the Race Baiter
>>707379852
>3rd parties are bad
>I can't explain why
>Just look it up! You'll see why they're bad!
We can go on forever child.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj78yWOiKkw
>>707380002
No, what's frightening is that dipshits like you would continue push disinformation from a totally unverified source because it appears to agree with you
If Clinton is really "negligent and corrupt" then you should have no problem posting the official statements from either the FBI or Congress to that effect, and show me what charges or even reprimands against Clinton were served.
Still waiting btw.
