What is life? Why are we here? Where are we going?
I've come to believe that there is likely a "god"; however, that "god" is actually just an individual of a much more advanced civilization. I believe it's his day job or hobby to create and/or test personalities (spirits, consciousness, etc.). Hopefully we're destined to live in His world (there are a plethora of theories as to how and why), but it's also possible that we're just an experiment, forgotten or to be abandoned.
How are we possible?
I have three main theories of this. First, we're a simulation. Second, we're lower-dimensional beings. Third, we're part of a microverse.
The higher dimension and simulation theories would would explain how He sees everything at once. The higher dimension theory could also explain the Big Bang coming from nothing, as from our 3d perspective, it is. The simulation theory could explain why why we have genetic code. It is most likely a combination of these theories.
After the discovery of gravitational waves, it was proved we were all connected by something and it ripples with the collision of black holes (and probably smaller objects).
What are your guys' opinions on the Questions of Universe and Life?
>yes I assumed His gender
>>707153709
I don't speak angry kid gamer
>>707153820
you spoke with meme lol
>>707153497
>what is life?
Life is the product of years and years of chemical reactions that eventually caused complex organisms.
>why are we here?
There's no a "why", we are just the product of multiple chemical reactions caused, there's really not an object, the only thing to do is to preserve our information in the universe .
>where are we going?
Nowhere
>>707153497
Very similar to my theories, OP. Was this researched or completely original ideas?
>>707153497
Bumping for more
>>707155735
Just curious, is there an argument against Aquinas' first 3 arguments for there being a god? I'm agnostic I guess, not really religious, but I couldn't think of a counter to any of those 3 arguments. Is there?
>>707153497
Um, yeah no
There is no He, there is only It
The Universe.
The Universe is infinite. It has no being and no end. No one created it because it was always here. When our view of a timeline ends, it actually re-begins.
When humans die and re-begin, history will repeat itself infinitely
Life is meaningless unless you live for the moment. Then, in that case your 1 goal is to survive.
>>707159201
Does that mean people with really shitty lives are destined to relive them forever?
>>707159383
There are an infinite amount of possible people. If it does happen it is merely coincidental
>>707160107
Since you're so well-versed, how would you argue against this argument?
http://philosophy.lander.edu/intro/motion.shtml
>>707160506
What's the point in arguing?
>>707160686
So you can't?
>>707153497
>theories
>>707160966
It doesn't matter if you believe or if you win. Your fate is sealed and your life has no meaning.
>>707161286
You are avoiding this conversation why? I posted that, and asked if you could disprove it. You are not doing this, you are speculating something entirely different, with little to no reason behind it. I'm not saying I agree with anything being posted, but at least defend what you type?
>>707161490
The first stage is always denial.
My purpose in life isn't to win anonymous internet spouts that's for sure. But whatever helps you sleep at night. I myself am at peace
>>707161702
I'm in denial of what? I asked if you could defend your position and you're all butthurt like you need to defend your anon pride or something.
We're just here.
Deal with it anon, we're just dumb apes, the truth is too complicated for us to understand.
We may think we know stuff, but we know nothing.
Dwell on that for a minute, everything we "know" was basically made up by us, it's all a lie.
This world is all a lie.
At this point I think only death can reveal the truth of this world.
>>707153497
Hello, we are living in a matrice created by god.
It's like a video games. U have to be a good boy and u win eternal life at the end of game or u go to hell if u were an asshole.
That's simple
>>707160506
This is one of the worst written things I've ever read.
I swear it's trying to be needlessly complicated, for the sake of it.
It's way too early in the morning for that shit, can someone please summarise?
>>707163100
>>707160506
Bumping
>>707162543
>We may think we know stuff, but we know nothing.
>Dwell on that for a minute, everything we "know" was basically made up by us, it's all a lie
This exactly
Religion is one of the worst evils on this earth. The fact of the matter is that all religions think they are the chosen right. But all religions were created by humans. Humans being flawed in every prospect.
>>707155461
The day people understand this, that is the day the world will either end or the final golden Era of mankind will begin.
>>707153497
Theories? No. They're hypotheses at best.
>>707155735
Completely original, but after last night I realized that many others have come to the same conclusion
OPs back after 2 hours
>>707155461
You misinterpreted the question. How did those chemical reactions come to be? What caused the Big Bang? Why are you so quick to dismiss the possibility of a higher-being creating us? Give us enough time and we could create our own worlds.
>>707159201
In our current Universe there is a beginning and there will be an end. In what may be god's universe it may have different laws governing it thus allowing eternity to be an option.
>>707161078
I believe the dumbest people are those who think they know for certain how the world came to be, and there's no way it can be wrong.
Atheists included.
>>707161078
>>707161078
I believe the dumbest people are those who think they know for certain how the world came to be, and there's no way it can be wrong.
Atheists included.
>>707164595
>How did those chemical reactions come to be
What does it matter if life is meaningless
>higher being
Because it comes down to the never ending cycle of "what created the higher being and so forth"
Its just lazy storytelling that ignorant people like you take literally
>give us enough time and we could create our own world
You leave that to the scientists
>>707164716
Stfu
>>707164716
Why would any smart person want Eternity
Think about it for a second, really. You know that awesome toy you wanted for Christmas that looked so cool on the commercial (that robot dog you could teach tricks or those dumb ass hex bugs or whatever)
Once you got it you realized how boring they were
Why? Because humans don't like living in a perfect world where we always get our way
Look at celebrities and how miserable they are
No one wants to live forever and no one wants to live forever in a perfect world
Eternity was a lazy bible fairy tale to get people in to believe in the tyranny of Christianity and leave behind pagan way of life
>>707164929
If you were truly this nihilistic you wouldn't even be shitposting.
Critical thinking is hard for you, isn't it?
>>707165244
The same goes for you sperglord
A part of me hopes hell is real just so I can see your face when you get here
>>707153497
I wish I wasn't a part of existing
>>707165241
I said different universes may have different laws governing them. It would be possible to have a universe that lasts for eternity.
This isn't a fairy tale, I acknowledged the fact that even if there is a "god" he may forget, abandon, or destroy us. Which means no eternity for us.
We could be the testing grounds of their AI program and their just filtering out those with sociopathic tendencies.
>>707165516
3spooky5me
>>707153497
You seek the law of One, google it, love and light be with you.
>>707165516
*they're
>>707165241
>>707165241
try logically dismissing "God" instead of just thinking it's too complicated or good for us. Granted it's impossible for him to have lived forever in our universe, since he existed before it, and our universe is finite. So this leaves the several theories including macroverse, simulation, and higher-dimensional beings.
>>707153709
I happen to live in Volgograd district myself
>>707165799
Higher-dimensional beings seems the most plausible theory.
>>707165690
Ra?
>>707165979
I do too, as it would allow him to see everything at once, and would explain how the Big Bang came from nothing (an unperceivable dimension)
>>707153497
All is one identity is the only thing that differs, we are fractured pieces of THE ONE TRUE INFINITE CREATOR, now thats not to say it is the creator of this universe but it created that logos. We are the creator in tiny pieces trying to get back to ourselves in a spiritual growth manner to be one with source yet again, and ALL will return home eventually, love and light.
>>707166134
Egypt fag gtfo unless you have a logical theory behind this (not stories). As long as it's possible with our current knowledge, I'll accept it as a theory.
>>707153497
God is not bound by anything.
He is infinite.
Saying that he has a job and he's a PART of something else like a civilization implies that he is finite. That is wrong.
We can ponder what God is, but he is beyond our comprehension.
You and I are here for a blink of a time.
100 years? Think how that is compared to forever.
This place is not our ultimate purpose, this is a test. This is where we are granted the opportunity to choose who we are. We are continually becoming who we are. We are allowed to make our mistakes here and forgiven for them.
We will be made worthy if we seek him.
Blessed is the LORD Jesus Christ and his mother Mary!
The Lord will return.
Yeah, I know I'm weird, but... Christ is the Lord!
Deus Vult!
>>707165241
This.
Felt humbled after reading this
>>707165986
No little brother, but that collective (amoung many) is watching and helping, all in service to the One True INFINITE creator, hope to see you at graduation.
>>707166282
The procession of the equinoxes is upon us, your very dna will be proof enough, love and light little brother.
>>707165241
I mean, you wouldn't want to live forever with your loved ones in a constantly changing, ever-evolving world? You must be that one guy no one invites to anything tbh
>>707166134
Technically, he is saying we are god...
Well, I wonder how these guys come up with that.
If everything is god, and we are him.
What is good and evil? They are also god.
So that also means we are god and we dictate what good and evil is.
There's the problem...
If we dictate what good and evil is and all rules are a figment of our mind, then there is no good and evil.
It's complicated but...
You see, this is in essence the anti-Christ ideology. The devil himself tried to overthrow god and was cast out of heaven... Think about that.
>>707165241
>tyranny of Christianity and leave behind pagan way of life
Because human sacrifice, which is pagan, is totally cool, unlike that stupid "love each other golden rule" crap those tyrannical Christians keep talking about, right?
>>707166313
Stop smoking crack
>>707165241
I believe the problem here is lack of variety.
There may be an infinite amount of things, worlds, and people to experience in an eternal universe.
"Paradise" is in relative terms to Earth. (Highly advanced tech and no poverty, hunger, disease, etc.) Not to mention emotions could be fixed to an optimal state with sufficient technology.
Just devil's advocate here as it's also possible we cease to exist.
>>707166313
you don't sound weird, just type normally and don't type like such an obtuse faggot and no one will call you a faggot. I mean do you not see where you're posting? lmao
>>707166313
If he's infinite then he lives with different universal physics and we have zero knowledge to make an educational guess as to how this works. The best we can do is figure out why He may be doing this.
>>707153497
You won't get answers going this way. It just keeps going. It really is incredible and extremely fascinating to rationalize theories and reasons but there's no end. There's no ''Aaahh that's it! I know the purpose of everything and the reasons for everything to be as it is!'', unfortunately...
But there are other questions too.
Religion has it's purpose and has many forms. Those who simply say that religion is pure bullshit are incapable of understanding a bit more complicated things. A lot of those simple brains which respect wholeheartedly their religion live their whole lives being happy. Now that's an accomplishment.
I'll tell you my opinion. There is a thing called Vipassana which is a branch of buddhism but i'm not sure. It's a meditation technique and with it you learn to perceive everything around you as objects. After a while of practicing and learning in this domain you begin to see that ''you'' are made of different parts. There's the body, the mind and 'you'(?). You can clearly see(feel) what the body is, you can see the minds thoughts, how it feels emotions, how it thinks and comes up with ideas, and then some interesting questions come up. Who are you? What are you? Where are you? You don't feel touch, the body does. You don't feel emotions, the mind does. You just see, and apparently have some kind of control over the body and the mind. Let's not say control but more like an interaction. That's some interesting shit.
The universe is big, it's great to fantasize about it. But you will die. And nobody will tell you if your ideas of reality are true or false.
That's my opinion.
>TLTR: Wrong questions
>>707165799
Macroverse, etc, etc are all finite concepts. These words and thoughts are all finite. We are restricted.
It's impossible to know unless you overcome finity.
Christ is the Lord.
>>707166828
Correct as from The top tier there exists no right or wrong, all is a lesson or blessing optimally both. There exists a luciferian agenda proported by an ancient artificial intelligence hailing from another universe hell bent on destroying or occupying all biological sentient beings.
>>707167130
Thanks, I'll look into it.
Are you the anon from last night that had discoveries through meditation?
>>707167028
Well, I feel like theatrics are necessary a bit here. I feel like I'm fulfilling some kind of revelation message or some cool stuff.
Honestly, I actually feel pretty elevated when praising Christ. Without him, I can't be happy. Talking about Christ is like talking about the love of my life, but even more so. The love of my soul. Meh. I can't please everyone. #yolo
>>707167461
god damn why wasn't i here.
No, sorry. Can you tell me the ideas he said?
>>707167208
You see...
If you eliminate your ego, well.
There's a reason why it's called ego death.
Those words you got there, "lesson", "blessing" are meaningless when you lose your soul.
There is no more lesson when you're cut off from God. Once you sell your soul and become your own god, you're stuck in a meaningless loop: Hell.
Enough esoteric stuff...
Christ is the Lord!
DEUS VULT!
>>707167512
http://thebarchive.com/b/thread/707101743/#707121286
>People choose their actions well before deciding to commit them. Our behaviors are, in essence, canned responses. Sometimes planned responses are years old, sometimes only seconds. They are not set in stone, and so understanding them can be useful for controlling one's own behaviors.
It wasn't even the most thought-provoking response in that thread
I can only cum from jacking off to chaturbate whores and never can cum during sex. Wat do, /b/?
>>707168054
1. Continue to watch whores while you sex for procreation
2. Just watch whores
3. Kill yourself
Now fuck off
>>707168012
He's just making something that's really simple sound complicated... Gobbledygook.
Look, there 's pseudo-intellect and there's real intellect. I can't teach everyone how to identify which is which. That is their problem.
Why that's thought provoking to you?
Beats me.
>>707168535
It's not really, I just was implying that there were better things in the thread.
What I got from it is he figured out people are conditioned.
>>707168012
Aw dude this some nice shit man
But i don't agree. He god some of the answers but then he totally sidetracked. He changed the questions. He didn't think about himself anymore. Of course the reality in which we live in is limited. It's basic scientific knowledge. There are laws. But that doesn't mean we're a simulation. He thinks so important of himself. The fact that someone is behind all this is an excuse. Who the hell cares? it's not like you're the hero of the universes story. You're the hero of yourself. I think, if you realize who YOU are, the answers will come. But what this guy says it's just another scifi story like in this thread
>>707168785
Let's try Socratic.
Are conditions bad?
What are conditions?
Are conditions even avoidable?
>>707167508
Christ is a consciousness brother, budda wasnt a buddist jesus wasnt christian LOVE was thier religion.
>>707168963
Hero of yourself?
Yes and no.
We're definitely here for a reason other than just selfishness.
Christ is the Lord!
>>707167906
Lol death of ego does not equate to losing one's identity, the Christ consciousness is a beautiful thing, anon do not know there are many of ways to build a house, end goal of a solid home is all that matters.
>>707169035
He is the only begotten son of God.
He sacrificed for our sins.
We cannot know the God Father except through Christ because he sacrificed for us.
It's the mystery of the Holy Trinity.
It is a paradoxical concept.
Many pondered on it but of course it can't be understood.
Christ will come again!
>>707166313
You see? this is a perfect example of religions purpose. Maybe i was wrong, you don't need to be simpleminded to respect a religion. Now that i think about it, there are for sure a lot of REALLY smart people in the world who,despite the fact, respect a religion.
But you gotta understand. This is your way of thinking. It molds your reality according to your believes, and there are other people out here, with other realities. Yours seems nonsense to me personally, but that's not important. What's important is that you are happy, so we can say you get more points than i do
>>707168963
I agree that just because we can use math to predict things doesn't mean we live in a simulation. I asked him if he then thought base reality had no laws regarding physics right before it 404'd.
This was one of the responses that made me think, yes a couple of those were no shit, but some were pretty philosophical:
"Over time, everyone who loved you will begin to hate you and become suspicious of your behavior and beliefs (group think). Youll be perceived as crazy by those around you for having wildly different viewpoints (xenophobia), and the truth hurts, so the journey is going to feel like youre walking through hell. The truth goes beyond childish bullshit like nihilism (not the whole picture) and politics (how power structures develop and break down over time). Youll be learning about information at its most fundamental (muh matrix references), and how this information controls the world, including all of us (the memes jack). Youll find out that you are not who you think you are (the inner journey) and that everyone who perceives reality is wrong including both of us (perception vs reality). Youll find out that there is so much knowledge beyond our understanding of science that it will make you shit yourself (groups are never what they purport to be). Youll find out that crazy and normal arent what you think they are.
Most of all though, youll find out that there are a lot of us who have taken this journey, who have just decided to check out of society altogether because of its willful ignorance and emotional immaturity. Maybe youll find us. Maybe you wont. Hell, youll probably kill yourself. A lot of people want to do that just after figuring out how much theyre getting fucked by society and culture.
Even pepe isnt what you think it is."
I just can't figure out if this is bullshit or highly--philosophical.
Research ancient civilizations (namely Egyptian), research sacred geometry, research paganism, research the golden ratio. There is so much more to our reality than we can hope to understand until our "death". I don't know what that transformation holds in store for us, and anyone that claims to know is lying to themselves and you. Just know that radically skeptical atheists are some of the most ignorant and lazy people I've met, and before I opened my mind I was that same way.
>>707169171
Oh you self righteous "enlightened" one...
Why do you seek to elevate yourself as a god?
Why don't you heed the ancients warnings?
>>707169140
YOU love your god because it helps YOU, it 'shines its light' upon YOU, it loves YOU, YOU are the star aren't you? think about what you think about when you think about your god and tell me, how important are YOU in that line of thinking? how many times do you say I?
>>707168974
I'm not sure what you are saying/implying.
I say people are shaped by their environment (from their nature core) and you ask how the conditions are.
What is the point of your post?
>>707169140
Go lie and get legally grey visas to travel to Malaysia and preach the Gospel.
>Reference to the leaked Mormon documents
I like to imagine it's how it's explained here. https://youtu.be/G2xXu8_2Exo
>>707169376
Thanks for the compliment on my mind and your perspective of how nonsensical it seems.
There are other realities?
As far as we both know, we share it.
You might perceive that the God of Abraham does not make sense, but you must understand him to change your perception.
Deus vult!
>>707169508
they are smart thinking...but as i said, i think i derailed as fuck. he wrapped himself around the idea of a simulation. He actually seems to get answers, but do they seem to you like the right ones? I mean..as i see, it just helps him see the world extremely negative. Yes, maybe it is, but why would you focus on that? Practicing this kind of meditation helps you realize that everyone and everything is equal and everything has a reason. You don't judge, because you simply understand cause and effect. They call it karma, but i like the other name more
>>707169924
Perspective is reality.
I can't argue with you if you don't accept this statement.
>>707169512
>Just know that radically skeptical atheists are some of the most ignorant and lazy people I've met
Very true.
What is it about the Egyptian/ancient culture that appeals so much to you?
I literally thought you were trolling until know.
>>707169602
I serve others because I fear God.
If did not fear God then I would be selfish.
I earned this fear by being willing to sacrifice .
This does come at a price, so ultimately it's not selfish.
I can't say it's the same for everyone else, but it is for me.
Christ will come again!
>>707169617
wat
We just happened to have a conciseness,on a planet which got super lucky in terms of conditions.
Now we have to live with that.
Don't fool yourself, humans are nothing more then animals who can self reflect.
>>707169525
I do not mean to shake your belief system brother, religion very much serves purpose to an extent as all are cornered in the golden rule, but the mere act of putting one religion above another is foolish, again you can build your house how ever u please as long as its done ethically and up to "code" . Being of service to others and Love/light are the only constants to reaching untapped potential, love and light be with you.
>>707170090
I don't condemn you.
I don't have the authority.
That's between you and God.
I'm just super sayin', Christ is the Lord.
>>707170182
mix that with weed 50/50, and it will make your joint like there is 25-50% more weed in it
>>707170112
Why would you think I was trolling, it's so easy to google those things. I'd start with sacred geometry. The earliest known flower of life symbol was found in the temple of Osiris. The middle East is the cradle of civilization. We think we're more intelligent than early man, but they were intelligent in a way that we aren't anymore. A spiritual way.
>>707153497
You are here as an avatar too a 4th dimensional being playing a video game. You are merely running dialogue scripts as perceived as independent thought. Just as I am.
It's not that much different than playing a wow game, your character has limited abilities that run certain "random" scripts when you /silly etc. That's all these apparent choices in dialogue are, script generations from the 4th dimension
>>707169896
Why would they only ask an alien those questions?
It seems staged, yet some aspects may be true or possible.
When was it released?
>>707170170
You just agreed with me
>I can't say it's the same for everyone else, but it is for me.
Bitch get your head straight. It is your reality. There are a lot of gods around you. Each of them with different attributes and with different powers and shit. I even heard better stories then yours. People DO STUFF for their gods, i understand that. He's super strong and o'mighty. But he is yours. And there are others with your perspective and you share thoughts and love and happiness because of your god. That's awesome! But there is this other guy too, which has Aphrodite as a god. And he will kill for her. He will burn your house down while you sleep if it makes his god happy. That's the only problem with religion. It's naive and arrogant. Makes people happy, but god it is dangerous
>>707170218
Oh.
Love all?
Disguised as the bringer of light?
There is a reason laws were put forth against lust.
There will be repercussions.
>>707169999
checked
I agree with what he says except for this
>how this information controls the world, including all of us (the memes jack). Youll find out that you are not who you think you are (the inner journey) ...(groups are never what they purport to be). Youll find out that crazy and normal arent what you think they are.
What does he mean? If the rest wasn't accurate I'd just move on, but him being accurate so far makes me want to figure it out.
>>707170671
My God is the only God.
The one that commands the winds.
The one that decimated entire civilizations.
The one that sacrificed his only begotten Son for our souls.
Christ will come again!
>>707170112
Also, the library of Alexandria was located in Egypt. It supposedly contained the entire written human history, but sadly it burned down. That's probably the reason we're so ignorant of certain subjects to this day. That's how it was meant to be though. We entered a dark age, now we have just entered the age of Aquarius, so things will get better. We'll be dead before it reaches it's peak, but I'd like to think we'll find our way back through reincarnation. Egyptians also believed in that.
>>707153497
Still trying to believe there is something more and that there is such thing as purpose. No one exists for a reason we are all going to die.
In terms of dimensions in games if it were a 2D top down game you could use a 3D array to change between levels, you as a player can only see the level you are on, the fourth dimension is a plain that we don't perceive similar to the 3D array.
But what people always look over when it comes to multi dimensional thought is that their ego gets in the way and they think of it as an if life went perfect or shit for themselves or humanity as a whole, with infinite universes being simultaneously created and destroyed human life existing in any of them is pure chance and is an infinitely small percentile of all existing multi verses.
You are nothing, what you do means nothing so just get over it or take some hallucinogenics and try to guide yourself into a meaningful trip that provides the answers to your questions.
>>707170466
So they had a flower of life symbol? Maybe they discovered geometry. So what?
We've made leaps and bounds into what the world is made up of and how it reacts to things in the past centuries. We've discovered Newton's mechanics, etc. Does that mean we know the meaning of life?
>>707170678
Why does love automatically equate to lust, this speaks volumes of your mindset at the moment in space/time, I will not pass judgement but only say that you muat rise above your currwnt programming and underatandings. Light carries all, for scientific proof look into the scientist that turned frog eggs into salamander eggs with purely light beam particle again, love and light (light being information thru photons) be with you always my brother.
>>707171022
I've actually been tempted to try drugs to break down mental barriers and see things clearer.
what ones do you recommend?
>>707171145
It definitely does not mean that. You must not know much about sacred geometry if you don't think it's a big deal. But I'm not here to prove anything to you. Research it or don't, I don't care. Whatever you choose is your fate. And I guess it depends on what you consider leaps and bounds to be, or rather what direction we're leaping and bounding. Maybe we're leaping towards our own destruction, we're certainly destroying our world. Doesn't seem very smart to me.
>>707170840
Hmm, i think he is still going very deep in the simulation thing but let's but some other way to get some useful info
Let's say everyone in the world is from this moment 'enlightened' as the buddhists say, let's say everyone knows the secrets in question. no one judges good or bad, everybody is happy and lives in the moment.
let's say everyone became this guy:
''What has to be known, that I have known;
What has to be abandoned, that I have abandoned;
What has to be developed, that I have developed;
Therefore, O brahmin, I am a Buddha.”
except a small group of people which were in one of the highest positions in the world and before this ''enlightenment'' they had immense social, military, politic power. You get what i mean.
What do you think will happen? They want money,control, power. How can you control when there is no judgement in the world? It could be actually critical information/experience to know some things some other people don't want you to think about.
This is what i think and what i could extract ignoring his idea of life is a simulation.
>>707171206
Christ will come again.
I am under his rule and no other.
I do not worship the light, the stars, or love.
I worship God.
>>707170919
ugh...
People of this thread, if you did not know this before, OBSERVE religion in it's majesty.
You are no different from the alahu akbaars. Try and observe yourself
>>707171672
Why do you oppose me?
If you believe love all, why are you imposing your rules on me?
If you claim there are other realities and I should accept that, then why can't you just accept mine?
Why even judge?
>>707171637
Christ is light and love. So is Buddha. So is Krishna. So is Ra. They are all physical manifestations and messengers of God, which is love and light.
>>707171317
Lsd
>>707171808
because i'm not enlightened
i shouldn't judge you. It's your personal experience. I'm just mad because you can't see. And i shouldn't be.
>>707171838
That's not what my "reality" is.
Why don't you follow your own advice and accept mine rather than try and impose yours on me?
>>707171637
Kill yourself. This is a discussion, not an indoctrination.
>>707171637
By that logic Jesus said, all that i do you will do and more. Though a very speacil entity with a very speacil message, the totality of the message became convoluted. Its really really Simple just LOVE and be of service, hold in esteem truth, and do onto others as you would want done to you, this is the Christ consciousness.
>>707172024
false.
You pal are on the other side. You can't understand him so you reject. It's easier that way. Rethink your opinions
>>707171573
He was different from the simulation anon
>>707171317
You can buy non treated morning glory seeds on Amazon, left a few hundred of those soaking for 28 hours tastes like plant matter and you will probably just feel sick for the first hour the second hour I was at a house party and it was too easy to pick up on patterns and fake personas played beer pong went home trip started it felt like you could see the world as it is to an extent then suddenly an influx of information and the trip keeps expanding beyond comprehension at times I was talking to my friend between us tripping it felt like hours had gone by it had been 1 minute and 52 seconds.
The trip can last up to 8 hours and can be overwhelming.
Weed is a nice starting point you'll want a sativa / hybrid.
It's the LSA in the morning glory seeds that makes you trip.
Tips plenty of fluids and safe foods and maybe a sick bucket. Don't intend to do anything that day and the next day you'll feel fuzz brained a bit.
I prefer weed for day to day use as there is rarely a downside.
But getting the seeds is easy and safe especially if you haven't bought any drugs before.
Sorry if what I am writing is garbled I'm pretty tired right now.
>>707171988
I'm not imposing anything, simply informing. I'm also not the person you've been arguing with.
>>707171886
What about shrooms?
>>707172024
Now you're telling me to kill myself?
How love and light are you?
Perhaps a disguise! I rest my case.
>>707170678
You beast.
Christ will come again!
>>707172152
Sure, I just find shrooms a bit scarier
>>707172102
You've made your opinion known and are now just saying it in a billion different ways until we believe you, as your Christ way is the "only possible way". That is indoctrination.
>>707172108
oh fuck me then he's right
Take it literally and think about it. But i think you need to experience other stuff before understanding this. He claims he sees,and that he knows. He may actually know.
The thing about this shit is that the experiences teach you.
>>707172256
Why?
>>707172324
You're not trying to indoctrinate?
Wait... I thought convincing is like a synonym. Hmm...
I don't understand you guys and your backwards idea of god.
>>707172324
Well sorry then. You are free to ignore my comments. I am further developing my opinion, repeating the ideas as
hypotheses for other ideas. Not really trying to impose anything, more like informing if there's a discussion created.
Got your point brah, moving on
>>707172504
We're not saying god doesn't exist. We're contemplating logical ways we came into existence, and yes god is the main factor in most our theories.
>>707172348
How do you get there? How can I gain the needed experiences?
I find it strange that people often seem to feel the need to invent some sort of abstract higher power. I suppose I'm an agnostic atheist, I'm not opposed to the idea of a god but it's not something I'm just going to assume is the case without any evidence. There may very well be such a thing but speculating is pointless, you might as well be making shit up.
>>707172928
Pretty much.
>>707172928
I disagree. If you never speculate about anything, your mind will never evolve.
>>707172870
google vipassanadhura
You could start there.
I'm no expert, i don't meditate regularly as i should but i did it sometime, and now i say what i think.
I hate to say that it's kinda like any other religion. People don't understand you until they haven't experienced...and this is something you could say for other religions too.. But i like your open mind, i suggest you look over it and it can be that you will feel the will to know more
>>707155159
The thought should be a little wider: perhaps there's something paralleled to the concept of life but isn't exactly the same, considering the endless possibilities, therefore being beyond the spectrum of our comprehension.
Excuse my pseudo intellectual tone
>>707172447
It's a bit too real. You don't really acknowledge that you're tripping in the same way as LSD. I've only tried them once, so maybe it was just a bad experience.
>>707172928
To find evidence we need experiments, to make experiments we need theories.
This goes both ways. If you can have an experiment which proves God impossible then one of the key questions to life will be answered.
We can't get answers without speculation though.
>>707172667
Well, it's really a paradox.
It's explainable to an extent, but due to the limits finity imposed on us, no matter how much information we obtain, it will never be obtained.
My suggestion is changing your question from "How we exist?" to "Why we exist?".
"How" necessitates empirical data.
No matter how much we contemplate a hypothesis, a viable experiment cannot be created, and thus a conclusion is impossible.
If you seek for why we are here, I suggest checking out what the Catholics and Jewish have to say as a starting point... They taught me a lot of interesting things.
Christ will come again soon.
>>707173083
>>707173374
Don't get me wrong, I wasn't saying you should never speculate about anything at all, but overthinking things can be just as dangerous as not thinking at all. Humans are very clever, good at rationalizing things that don't actually make sense. The more you think the more rationalizing you do, and you can end up with cooked ideas that make sense to you based on a sequence of 'logical' steps, any or all of which could be faulty.
>>707173264
Thanks, are there any books or people that have experienced this or have this knowledge?
>>707155461
Agreed on the
>why are we here?
Questioning things is only a human characteristic
>>707173526
Dude, there are entire teachings of different buddhas, but it deepens in the religious side of it but some of them are clean meditation teachings. Plus there are other books wrote by teachers in this domain. Google. It's rich
>>707173503
I grew up in a Mormon home. I'm inactive, but one of the things that stuck with me is that many believed miracles were just science beyond our comprehension (orchestrated by God).
>>707173742
I'll try that. Just curious, how much of Buddhism do you believe in, and were your family Buddhists?
>>707174189
I like that one.
I like you.
You're awesome.
>>707173503
The Christians and Jews have a lot of history and teachings, what have they taught you?
>>707153497
There is no god. There is no meaning of life. When we die it all goes black and that’s that. Human beings were never meant to be as intelligent as we are and have self-awareness but our intelligence is not enough and it deceives us. Any thought of god, heaven or anything else is just wishful thinking. The human race is an accident, if the dinosaurs didn't die out when they did they would be the dominant species on earth right now. The planet is already fucked. There will be close to 8 billion humans by 2050 and you can double that by 2150 we will cause our own destruction one way or another. Future generations will look back at how lucky we are today and wish they could live in our time. No amount of personal wealth or perceived success can avert any of this. There is no future, nothing meaningful to work towards. Ultimately the sun will go supanova and engulf the planet erasing everything the human race ever did or achieved from history. All you can do is fuck as many girls as you can for as long as you can before you die, it’s all we are meant to do anyway, just pass on our genetic material and die, for what it’s all worth.
Think about it /b/ there is no point to anything. Any reason you can find to carry on living another day is simply you fooling yourself about the reality of existence.
>>707174516
You don't seem like the average /b/-tard meaning that you are uplifting and positive. Why are you here?
>>707174337
Father atheist, mother highly religious, i forgot which one.
hmm..buddhists say something about infinite conscious life. You die, and revive because you are not yet enlightened.So to break the cycle you need to become one during your life.
I don't really take this stuff although i read something about a quantum study that resulted in the idea that the consciousness goes on after death. I'm questioning this idea but the thing is, it's not that important. YOU are important and your development will give the answers you need
>>707174886
Can you solve the how we came to be part though? Something from nothing (Big bang theory) isn't sufficient.
A more advanced civilization somehow initiating the creation of our universe is plausible though
>>707174542
Philosophy.
It's like a a doctorates degree of education if you ask the right questions to the right people.
My favorite are the Capuchin Friars; they go to college to qualify for their positions.
The Jewish are the best when it comes to anything of the Old Testament.
Buddhism is good if you want to study nihilism...
You need an escape plan from nihilism in case you go too far, so use Christ as your foundation.
Meditation places you in a meditative trance. It shuts down the critical thinking parts of your brain... I've done it, learned from it, and got out fast.
No answer there in my opinion, unless you want the answer to literally be nothing.
>>707175262
I think I read that same theory, we're just receptors of a personality "beam"
>>707174950
I wish I knew why I'm here.
I ask myself why I'm here everyday.
Why am I here?
Your guess is as good as mine.
>>707175287
My hankey the christmas poo is plausable if you perform enough mental gymnastics to convince yourself.
>>707175426
yeah and it really is interesting because like i said, you see the body, the mind and none of them are you
>>707175349
Nihilism, why does it scare you / why do you need to escape it?
>>707153497
TD;lr
If dubs got exists
>>707175544
What's your point?
If it's possible, it's possible. Let's not forget the leading THEORY for atheists is the big bang theory, and it's just that: a theory.
Like I said before evidence needs experiments and experiments need theories.
>>707175663
Got exists
>>707153497
atheism and nihilism are the only paths to enlightenment, when will everyone learn that nothing has true value?
>>707165241
The concept of eternity predates Judeo-Christianity by millenia
>>707153497
Does it really matter? Not only will you never be able to truly know/comprehend higher meaning, what would you do with that knowledge anyway if you could obtain it? The universe is based on creation and deletion and so are we. Its as far as we'll ever know. Religion is just a numbing agent for anxiety of ending. Time is arbitrary. Leave it at that, you weren't made to know.
>>707175697
Bing bang theory is no different to the theroy that god created everytning. Its more religous wishful thinking that we think up and then try and find reasons its true. Its self deception. We were never meant to unlock the universe. Try all you might you never will and no one has the answer despite any claim they may make that they do.
>>707175662
I love God too much to let him go.
When he left me, my heart broke.
I made it up to him and he's back in my life.
Christ sacrificed for me. Long story.
Yes, I am a philosopher.
Nihilism? Fear?
There's nothing to fear when you get there.
There's a reason why many philosophers kill themselves you know.
Nihilism exists... You have that choice.
There is also a very real spiritual warfare going on here.
I don't know about you, but I'm not going to be condemned to this trivial dust.
>>707153709
i am russian it basically is a pedo text reported to FBI
>>707176127
If you read the thread you'd see that we're talking about creation and purpose, not afterlife. I did mention briefly that hopefully there was one and we aren't forgotten or abandoned by our babysitter(s) and creator(s). I also ventured that it would only be paradise in comparison to current life.
>>707153497
u cant create somethign from nothing. so life cant be created from non-living . means everything is alive in this universe we just cant communicate with them like the case with plants and trees
>>707159201
exactly i think after death u will relive as the life of any other person u interacted with .. its like having different role in the same movie
>>707164016
religion is all self bashing
>>707176095
It really does seem like that, but we can still rid each theory one by one and discover new things. The discovery of gravitational waves will help us understand the universe better as we all know now that something holds us all together, and it "ripples" when black holes collide.
>>707165241
yes i m 29 virgin and had enough of this world .. always prey to give me some desease to die
>>707176420
Wat.
Is that from Jaden smith?
>>707164148
It wont be a golden era. It will be the awakening because this is a denial era, medieval era. To the people of this golden era it will seem like we truly were apes and their era like normal to them
>>707176669
The two should not relate, you have put the meat hole on a pedastol.
Life is being fully aware of the separate layers of existence then going about doing the mundane arbitrary things you need to fuel your physical form so that the mental can coexist.
Your mind, emotions and body can all be tripping balls at the same time and I assure you having had that experience myself that it is greater and more mentally overwhelming than an intimate sexual release.
Don't buy into life is about procreation.
>>707177130
ok people have sex have a baby, then after the parents just die? nah the parents stay alive take care of the kids and then what? then they die? it makes no sense that life is about procreation only and I agree. the only purpose in life is the purpose you give it. if you think life is all about having kids thats you. i think life is about, everything and nothing. YOLO
>>707153497
Has anyone read the Berenstain versus berenstein bears theory? Shit's trippy. Parallel universes and shit.
>>707165510
FeelsBadMan
>>707177130
What do you mean by layers of existence?
Emotional, physical, mental, social, spiritual (moral)?
>>707177300
Re read, >don't buy into life is about procreation
>>707153497
I believe we're in a computer simulation, like a software. And black holes would be memory leaks.
>>707177734
While on LSA mental physical and emotional were all separate and all were tripping. (I also smoked a lot of weed and enough alcohol but not suicide levels of alcohol)
>>707177890
And space unallocated memory.
>>707177890
But why would their collision cause ripples in space?
>>707177922
What do you mean?
>>707177890
I don't think a computer capable of running a universe with trillions of complicated ai would be made the same way as our computers.
>>707177441
It's strange, yet I'm sure that if it were true we'd have more than just "I swear it was spelled that way" I'm sure the authors could tell us though
>>707178917
I don't believe it that way, in my vision we're just like.. bits? Idk
And earth would be an object