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ITT: List the reasons why you dont believe in god
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there's no evidence for god because i'm shortsighted and haven't searched for it.
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1 - I have autism
2 - People starve in africa
3 - I had to go to sunday school when I wanted to play vidya
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I don't know, I don't care
all I know is I have a shitty life
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>>707021780
sell ur soul to the devil. then you will have a good life
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>>707021477

Nobody can prove nor disprove of a higher power. It is merely our perception of an afterlife, gives some hope.. Something to keep on truckin' in this fucked up life.
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>>707021780
Same man
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>>707022048
retarded bullshit.
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>>707021703
75% of america has autism
And its not even autism
Its just some shit lable for morons to feel better about how beta they are
Can't handle life, claim to be autistic and don't have to deal with life.
GROW UP AMERICA
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>>707021924
how do you do that?
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>>707021703
this

also because I'm an immature edgelord
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The shit does not make sense.
>You're mad in God's image
>suffer through life and then die
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>>707022048
well god has pretty much been proven, people are just too retarded to see it
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swag
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>>707021780
your life is 100% what you make it, so if you have a shitty life it's because you're shitty

blind homeless people with aids can be happy if they want to. it's all relative, you're just a gay fucking retard.
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>>707022717
So if you're captured by a maniac, beaten until you're retarded from brain damage, and then tortured in a basement for forty years, you can be happy?
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>>707022853
>implying this is a valid argument

god you're a faggot
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>>707022853
yes
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>>707022550
what
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same reason giraffes don't exist
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>>707023039
It got this moron (707023089) to bite the bullet, so it's an effective counterexample.

Also, you don't know what an argument is, or what validity is.
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1.I dont care
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>>707021477
Because there's no justice in the world, we just pretend there is. Chairman Mao ordered the deaths of millions of people and he lived until 90, spending his last years fucking teenage girls and giving them syphilis. Meanwhile, thousands of newborn babies die of easily preventable diseases.
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god has no meaning to me. i grew up not caring or being taught about him, so i don't really care at all. which i'm fine with, i'm working towards becoming an astronomer when i'm older
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believe in me or spend eternity burning in hell
>lets other humans make other religions
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1. No real life evidence.
2. Holy spirit is placebo effect.
3. God has something to say that is directed to all people, only tells one guy.
4. No evidence. Point to the bible as proof. That's like pointing to harry potter and saying dumbledore is real.
5. Who would want to believe in a god that demand you to believe him or die? A merciful god wouldn't hold a grudge.
6. If love between the same sex is a sin for merely that fact. That isn't a god I would ever support.
7. if man is made in god's image explain belly buttons.
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>>707021477
I do believe in him he is mercyful and really great.
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>>707023626
what caused the big bang. pls tell me
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>>707023624
you're a fucking retard. god doesnt control humans.
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>>707021477
>God created all men equal
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>>707023626
You probably need some near to death experiences ask God to make you a martyr because you want to believe in him, trust me it works.
He will Listen
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>>707023514
i respect that
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>>707023710
Would you say he's "tremendous"?
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>>707022636
Oh yeah? When and where?
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>>707023743
what caused the big bang?
We don't know, but just because we don't know that doesn't mean we have to have answers. But I bet if a god did create the universe is the reason he isn't here is because he left for a newer project in a galaxy far away?
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>>707023802
He doesn`t theology much it appears.
Feel bad for his family if he annoys even the chan imagine what his family thinks of him.
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>>707021477
Given current evidence and knowledge, it just seems so much more probable that there is none. And when you start thinking about any one religion being the truth, the whole idea starts becoming ridiculous. To me anyway.
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>>707021477
Cuz im an angsty teen
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>>707023931
>look everywhere around you
there's your proof
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>>707023743
>what caused the big bang. pls tell me

Uh, we don't know what exactly causes cancer, does that mean demons and wizards did it?

We don't even know if cause and effect apply at all when it comes to the Big Bang because it might well be the beginning of time itself.

But by all means, keep positing supernatural agencies whenever there's something you don't understand. Be a caveman.
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>>707023626
atheist here, but i gotta call your bullshit.
when in the bible did god say he holds grudges? in fact it says the exact opposite.
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>>707022717
>blind
>homeless
>whit aids
>kek
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>>707023802
>god doesnt control humans.
He just created the entire universe and fixed all the laws of nature that determine human behavior.
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>>707024074
>so you dont know
>but it cant possibly be god
fuck off
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>>707024094
He said it right next to the part where he told all whites to kill blacks.
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>>707021477
There very well could be a God.

No reason to think he is what we would identify as benevolent. Or that Human beings are the greatest thing eh created, or even remotely the center of any of it. If there is a God we only make him kinda like something we can understand so it makes the whole experience easier to swallow. This is just a coping mechanism to make sense of whats around you, a perfectly human thing to do.
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>>707023890
I would I have prove have even proved doctors wrong supposed to be dead long ago, over 17 near to death experiences or somewhere in that number.
You probably need to go to a church im Catholic, but I go to Christian churches im not saying that im better than you but God trust me does exist
also this image is sciense
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>>707024094
>when in the bible did god say he holds grudges?

Literally in the Ten Commandments:

>You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me
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>>707024171
he doesnt control what we think or do. It's called free will retard. look it up.
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>>707022048
define a higher power

the moon pulling in the tides is also something I would consider a power higher than myself, same with all the galaxies humanity has never seen, spiraling in infinity.

What pushes those forward? Big bang, sure, but that's what i'd call a higher power
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>>707024197
Who created God then? If you turn around and say no one created God, he created himself or some bullshit like that, then why couldn't the universe have created itself, without the need for God?
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>>707024197
Absolutely no reason to take the God hypothesis seriously ≠ can't possibly be God
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>>707021477
I would rather spend my energy answering questions that can be answered.
I put my faith in myself and my friends.
I am too busy enjoying this life to worry about what happens afterwords.
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>>707021477
>You cant probe a negative
>Never experienced a "religius" experience
>all "religius" people are completely retards
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>>707024281
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>>707023089
Then by what metric can you say happiness is even something that matters or should be desired? If It is possible to experience at any single moment then what is its intrinsic value?
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>>707024388
Friends ? money is the only friend you would get from this world, ask them for a real favor they will come up with excuses.
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>>707024321
The universe is deterministic. Animal behavior is no exception. You're saying God created everything: the universe's initial conditions and its laws.
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>>707023626
>love between the same sex is a sin
Gaytheist detected. You really could have saved all the rest of those words. Enjoy your penor and hellfire
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>>707021477
I believe in a God. Don't worship or follow any certain religion though. What's wrong with that? If there happens to be an afterlife I'd rather live it in a heaven type place rather hell.

I've said this so much on /b/ and people assume its b8.
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>>707023937
Could be that time and space are in an infinite loop. expands then falls back in on itself and implodes. repeats again because all things are infinite. we only occupy a small tiny fraction of reality that can be measured.
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>>707024518
Sorry to hear how shitty your friends sound. Your life must be very empty.
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>>707024570
that doesn't make sense. you have to believe one type of god
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I think we as humans really want answers for darkest most thing in our lives. Death and lonesomeness. He cares for you so you believe you become weak and want to believe there is an after life.. its weak because if you were logical you'd know there is no proof. That feeling you feel is you wanting it to be real. I know cause I wanted to believe so bad, but i simply can't because I'd be lying to myself. I envy those who can go through life not shitting at the thought of dying by pure random bs.
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>>707024570
>What's wrong with that? If there happens to be an afterlife I'd rather live it in a heaven type place rather hell.

Why do you assume that forcing yourself to believe in something unsubstantiated is a good way to get into heaven? For all you know, you'll end up in hell because of it.
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>>707022048
That about sums up my viewpoint. I'm not going to bother to try to argue with someone who has faith, its not based on reason, and is both annoying to them, and a waste of time for me.
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>>707022636
>has pretty much proven
>people are just too retard to see it
Do you even think bro?
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>>707024607
ask them for a big favor people are just recyclable.
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>>707024676
I believe in a higher power. Creation. My small brain can't wrap around the fact that nothing turned into something but then again how did (if there is one) a God get here. Im so lost.
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>>707024281
>near death experiences
>not knowing what dmt is
fuck you faggot
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GUYS, all the people who dont believe in god are victims to satan. It is literally stated in the bible numerous times that the devil rules this world, and what the devils goal???? That's right!, to make people not believe in god. Its very simple.
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>>707024832
I went to jail for a buddy once... another gave me a car in deperate times... these are just a few major testaments to true friendships with people who arent absolute chickenshit.
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>>707024281
>this nebula look like a hand
>"it must be god!!!one"
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Death excites me. I've thought about suicide just to see if there may be an afterlife or something after death. But Im worried that if there is a God he probably won't like the fact I want to an hero.
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>>707024843
So basically you have a completely irrational belief in nothing in particular. Good job.
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>>707024570
>believe that exist a superior god
>dont follow him
Your are just a complete retard
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>>707025004
>But Im worried that if there is a God he probably won't like the fact I want to an hero.

What makes you say that? Maybe God really likes people who commit suicide. Do you know the mind of God?
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>>707021477
No, you list the reasons there's definitely a God. But none of the retarded ones.
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>>707024973
too obvius bait
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>>707025004
>death excites me
>may theres an afterlife
do you even science vro?
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>>707024973
Whu does jesus look like a shitty halloween costume lol. Dat fake beard
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>>707024905
not exactly I mean from been shot to this guy has a few months to live but you`re probably friendless and unhappy God does exist and trust me that heaven experience was not DMT.
should had stayed there but obviously if you`re a faggot you feel guilty about getting into sodomy and don`t feel like getting Judge im not im just saying God does exist.
probably you saw the movie sausage fest and thought ariight etc. but that is just you
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I don't believe in god, but why the fuck would you want to?

God made humans, but didn't give them the ability to understand being naked was bad.

Satin comes by and is all like here eat this and have knowledge, but that's bad?

mfw you guys worshiping the wrong guy.
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>>707025190
look it up retard
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>>707021477
Hes not a bearded dude in the clouds or space or whatever. God is the source. The beginning and the end. Pure consciousness. Science barely can define consciousness
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>>707025259
>was not dmt
>complete retard confirmed
Actually i just read a lot.
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I am God. Let me just clear things uo.
When you die you forget everything about your past life and I send you to another universe. Unless you commit any sins in the Bible.
That goes for being a faggot, nigger, and anyone who doesn't believe in me.
PS: There is a heaven but only hot women make it.
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>>707025259
Take it from this illiterate person: the afterlife is definitely real!
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>>707025000
You believe that ? this is from NASA
>>707024999
you need to buy some friends going to jail for one did he even visited you ? unless you were a minor but that is taking it.
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>>707025400
>>707025439
You know, illiterate person are real, real, real, real, real, real, real, real, real, real, real, real, real, real, real, real, retards. also faggots.
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I believe in it to an extent but I don't think it actually gives a fuck about us or anything aside from the cosmos being it's property which it can fuck with any way it pleases, if it even has that kind of power, or even it's a singular thing. I think I just believe there could be a higher form of life which could manipulate the cosmos on a grand scale like a playground. But an absolute, true, one god above all? I'm not so sure about. I also definitly do not agree with the conception of monthesistic god in most of those types of reilgions. Like, seriously, we'd be less relevant than a damn ameoba or lone subatomic particle is to us than to such a supposed thing. Last of all, its fucking incorpereal to us. God, no pun intended, it's just so bloody convoluted effort to attempt to formulate an opinion to an incommenserable thing.
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>>707024239
This.
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>>707025439
Im still the one who posted learn theology
>>707025518
and amaze at the glory
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>>707025518
>look like an eye
>"It must be god!!!eleven"
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>>707021924
>implying ther isnt a consequence
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>>707025375
Whatever consciousness is, it sure looks like it depends on physical brains in animals. Saying the universe has its source in pure consciousness is like saying every point in space-time is hungry: stupid.
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There's no purpose to life, ultimately social constructs give our life meaning. This has been the first time in a while that I've thought about the idea of a god bc I'm totally atheist. I don't even think about it, that's how atheist I am. Real atheist never speak about it bc its never in our mind. Nothing against you for believing, carry on, just keep it holsttered. The worst thing that I hear people say is "god does everything for a reason", if that's the case then I need explaining why ur god tried to kill me before I was born. I came out strangled by my umbilical cord and had to be revived by a doctor not a god.
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Guys u idiots who belive in god answer this one question!
<why would god make ur life shit enough to be on a shit website and how did god come to universe? Also u have to have woman to make baby so there is female god. U guys who belive in god should drink bleach and kill urself. Sorry about english not that good friends.
>thread
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>>707025670
oh yeah. should've mentioned you will spend eternity in hell if you do that
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>>707025797
oh its nappy time for you pumking pie you want pinky pye to follow you to bed dressed as uncle bob ?
nighty nighty fag
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>>707025797
Im an atheist but i can answer this: If you dream a lucid dream, you could be anything, do anyting, and then you would be like "that was fun", but "what happens if i live a life like im not god?" then, life its created
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>>707025809
If after death there's no physical body, why the FUCK should i be afraid of physical pain?
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>>707025780
>Real atheist never speak about it bc its never in our mind.
what if you're surrounded by believers who constantly mention it? hard to keep it out of your mind
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>>707025518
I cant argue with you anymore... you have devolved into unintelligible gibberish.
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>>707021477
I assume you're referring to the Judeo-Christian god.
So much fail...Where to begin?
The Genesis account of creation is utter bullshit. >creates light, later creates sun, moon, stars?
>takes longer to create one planet (earth) than entire universe
Your god's holy book advocates slavery, genocide, rape, animal cruelty, child sacrifice, ridiculous unjust punishments, et al. It is not a good book. It's fucked.
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>>707025809
Well hell is not eternal, you stay there until you learn better i guess. Its the astral realm. We go to the astral realm after death. I was implying that your next incarnation will make you poor or mentally retarded or whatever
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I'm I small local rapper and about 4 months ago I was in the studio with my friends just hanging out. These guys are more known then me. One of them was even getting a record deal soon. While we were in the studio their voices changed to something that didn't sound like them and they a woman came in the studio. She was gorgeous. My friends started showing me the stacks of money which I never knew they had and telling me all I had to do was sell my soul to the woman (Lucy) Confused and worried I ran out and sat in bed for about a week thinking. I went to a pastor and explained him what happened and I have been going to church since. There is a God. Worship him. Love him and love others. Spend eternity in heaven
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>>707025797
I don't believe in god, but I can actually explain all that.

1. He made Earth got tired of our shit, killing, rape, etc.. tried to flush us once said fuck it nd left to another universe. Now there's no moderator so we can do whatever we want aka go on 4chan.

2.How did he get here? Well if it is a force and not a sentient being that be simple galaxies form from space dust.

3.No god made man in his image, and made woman from the rib of man.. so no two gods.

4.anyone who believes in god knows killing themselves is guarantee way to hell.

5. you fail on all levels nigger.
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>>707026030
Good point! Hell in the sense that Christians scare us with isnt real. I think the catholic church made it up.
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>>707025958
I have recently lucid dremed. It was amazing.
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>Niggers exist
>Jews exist
>Child rape exist
>Injustice exist
Need i say more?
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>>707021477
Which of the 15,000 or so gods are you talking about?
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>>707022048
>keep on trucking
As a trucker, I find that tired cliche rather offensive.
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>>707026165
wow, you can make shit up, cool
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I have access to an original Tyndale bible
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>>707026315
actually, the bible talks about hell, its not that just the church created it.
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>>707026355
Try astral projection anon ;) its even better.
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>>707026355
keep going nigga, that shit its amazing!
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>>707022853
W-will the torture include anal r-rape, sir?
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>>707026315
>I think the catholic church made it up.
Fiery hell is all over the New Testament, including the teachings of Jesus. The religion was crazy from the start, it didn't start out pure and noble or whatever.
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7. if man is made in god's image explain belly buttons.

If any god believer can answer this I will become believer.
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I don't really care about whether there is a god or not. I mostly care about the people who want us to do very specific shit based on their belief that it's what god wants.

Like, treating gay people like shit. The bible does make clear that's what you're supposed to do. So either, because the bible is so shittily written that god didn't really write it, god doesn't really care about gay people. Or god is a prick, and we shouldn't be listening to him in any event.
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>>707021477
The fact that /b/ has been allowed to exist this long when the plug should've been pulled years ago.
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>>707026431
the only one thats real
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>>707026494
Can you give me a little info on it anon?
When I lucid dreamed I put myself in the middle of the universe and just floated through galaxies. >>707026494
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because who gives a god damn shit.

damn shit.
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If /b/ exist, then theres no god
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School...
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>>707026565

God has a belly button. Not because he was born, he just likes having a little dent there. He felt that he could use that point as a good attachment point for an umbilical cord on the human model. On him, it's merely for aesthetics.

Not a believer, but that's just stupid. I could come up with an explanation in 3 seconds.
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Only losers believe in God xD
/thread
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>>707026565
Because God has a belly button?
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>>707024340
That's a greater power, perhaps, but not a higher power.
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>>707021477
because religion is the cancer of all cancers.. cancer is an error in code that causes harm to the host, exactly what religion is to our species. It's made up bull shit, we got science now, so fuck off with any of that fairy tale peter pan mother goose cat in the hat bull shit religion mumbo jumbo.
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>>707026473
Research it. Hell directly translates into rubbish/fire pit. Dantes inferno was him just astral projecting with a trusted spirit guide. No one could make it to heaven (the source) with just one lifetime. We live many lives making mistakes and learning from them. The bible talks about reincarnation many times too. Ezekiel ascended into heaven, jesus did too. Elijah reincarnated as jesus
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>>707026738
Why the fuck would god have a belly button? Was he birthed? and if so did he birth himself?
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>>707026709
atheistic school...
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>>707021477
That isn't how belief works.
I don't have reason to believe, so I don't.
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>>707026555
The earliest Christians were basically gnostics. Hermetics in a way. As above so below and all that
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atheistic school...>>707026709
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>>707026803
Everlasting fire pit, wow, that's way different from hell. Thanks for revealing the true secrets The Man doesn't want us to know.
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>>707026723
have fun in hell
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>>707023890
I'd say he's hugh mungus
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>>707021477
1) God is a word. Anything that's a word is limited. Whatever is beyond human limits is therefore unnamable and indescribable. All debate about this is pilpul (inb4 someone actually looks up "pilpul" and calls me a jew).

2) Belief implies knowing without proof. That which we cannot describe with words is unprovable without direct experience, and then incommunicatable to those who have shared the experience. Therefore, belief is irrelevant.

3) The idea of our selves as separate from the collective experience of all humankind (and ultimately life itself) is a fallacy.
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>>707026828
His mother? What are you, a girl-brains? Shit nigga, man up.
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>>707026803
My parents (both) have a theology degree, both have been "shepherds". I've been reading the bible for years, and yes, the hell its mentioned in the bible. but threre's a lot of "understanding" of the bible, there's like 4 schools of the new testament, so its pretty dificult whitouit "god" help know what its the right one.
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>>707025375
Science can't define consciousness, but a bunch of Bronze Age writers could? How about fuck you.
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>>707026625
Its like you consciously walk into the dream world (the astral realm) we have many bodies besides our physical. Your astral is connected by a silver cord to your belly button. Its basically the realm of which you process thoughts. You can go anywhere. Its hard at first, a little scary like sleep paralysis. You feel all buzzy, then you get up and see yourself laying in bed. Its so weird. Then you can go anywhere you want. Youtube has great meditations to help
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>>707027103
consciuesness its a madeup concept, dont be postmodern fag, its not neccesary to define it.
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>>707023743
We don't know yet, but we don't invent things to answer the question
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My question is why doesnt everyone believe in god? There is no downside. When you die if he is real you will go to heaven. If he isnt then you just die. But if he is real and you dont believe him you go to hell. Why risk that?
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oh fuck i just realized...

if you can imagine it, it's possible...in ANY universe.

so...

everything exists always...so everything you think doesn't or should not exist....go fuck yourself because that non-zero chance just everythinged everything.

everything.
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>>707027184
no one "invented" god because we had no answer to the big bang
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>>707021477
>reasons why you dont believe
Wrong style of logic... er... reasoning... er...
Faith is evidence of things unseen, meaning you know something is real DESPITE no evidence, no reason to know it is real. Faith, in a sense, is the absence of reason.
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>>707024321
>>707024321
yes, he does.
>he created adan and eve.
>he created lucifer.
>he did in in such a way that lucifer WOULD revel against him, and then seduce eva when he falls.
he KNOWS THE FUTURE, NIGGA!
so yeah, we kind of are living the way he programmed the future.
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>>707027195
This is how the 5th dimension operates
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>>707026883
Or they were basically deviant Pharisees. Or they were basically Essenes. Everybody's got a theory. You've picked one that flatters your prejudices.
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>>707026219
>I'm I small local rapper
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>>707027255
>No anwer to the bing bang
>Not knowing the copenhagen interpretation of quantum physics
>giving an opinion
Go back to your grave faggot
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>>707027191
What if God rewards honest atheists/agnostics with heaven, and punishes believers with hell? Why risk it?
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>>707027403
Miguel angelo drawed god ina "brain shaped" sink, to make clear that god its a human made invention.
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>>707027255
You can't be this dumb
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>>707023359
Ayyyy lmaaooo
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>>707026609
Dionysus? Fuck yeah! Pour the wine and start the orgy, bitches!
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>>707027191
If you want to believe just so you don't go to hell, then you aren't believeing god for the right reasons. You are pretending to believe, and if you do that you are only lying to yourself. To believe you must actually believe in it or you are a hypocrite of the religion you are trying to be a part of. I wish my parents en-stilled religion onto me so I couldn't have an open mind about it. Cause now I can't believe without facts.
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>>707026219
/thread
This man speaks truth. God bless you.
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>>707027416
i feel you bro
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>>707024058
Look everywhere around you. That's your proof that there is no god. See? I can use your same retarded logic against you.
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>>707027490
Jesus means Hail Zeus
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>>707027504
>local rapper
>Actually givinga fuck what he says.
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>>707027486
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XD PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE IN GOD?? Lolol
YOU /BROS/ ARE IDIOTS
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>>707027504
that's called being high on meth.
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>>707027653
>>/trash/
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>>707025721 uh yeah in the physical realm it depends on physical brains
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>>707027191
You better give me $1000 to avoid hell. Of course, you have no reason to think that hell is real or that giving me $1000 will help you avoid it, but why risk it?
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>>707027994
as opposed to what, the made-up realm you just made up?
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>>707028040
>implying im making this up as i go
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>>707027528
I see an ineffectual or uncaring deity that is indistinguishable from nothing.
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>>707028007
if i give you $2000 can you cure my aids?
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>>707021477
Not raised in a family with religion. So nothing was forced on me.

I only know about religion because of a girl that had a birthday party not on her birthday, because she was not allowed to celebrate it on her birthday and it was all because... yahwee thinks birthday parties are lame.

I think Wodan was cooler. Zeus was badass as well. And Baccus was a partyanimal.

But somehow all those people only believe in the ones they want and ignore all the others. And then start fights over it.

It's just weird and I don't get it.
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>>707028083
oh I'm sure you have the non-physical realm all mapped out, from many careful viewings of Ghostbusters
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GUYS, all the people who dont believe in god are victims to satan. It is literally stated in the bible numerous times that the devil rules this world, and what's the devils goal???? That's right!, to make people not believe in god. Its very simple. LOOK IT UP IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME
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>>707028310
Why does he do it, what does he gain?
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>>707028310
Satin gave us knowledge so he can't be all bad.
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>>707028310
Satan wrote the bible.
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>>707028279
Kek. Yeah ghost busters is my bible.
There is about 7 realms. Earth is the lowest. The astral is the next.
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>>707028310
1. The Bible says God exists.
2. Therefore, God exists.

Looks flawless to me.
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>>707022048
If a "higher power" operates on things within the universe, it should be detectable, and thus testable. If it is testable, it can can be "proven".

Belief in an afterlife tends to cheapen a persons view of this life. Why should I care, when my rewards in paradise will make this seem like hell?

Not believing in an afterlife, with our fleetingly short lifespan, no second chances, makes one appreciate the short time we have here that much more.

Besides, if you believe things for poor reasons, or no reason other than it makes me feel good, you're just lying to yourself.
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>>707028577
i just think its funny right when the world is going to shit there seems to be an increase in atheism. hmmmmmmm
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>>707028310
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>>707028490
Satan heavily re edited the bible so it lost all meaning and was corrupted for greedy purposes
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>>707028770
XD atheists along with believers of higher power are autistics and shoukd livestream them self an hero drinking bleach lol
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>>707028567
What about the etheric plane? We could be on the verge of a fourfold crossrip!
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I'm an apatheist so I don't really care about it either way technically. But the lack of peer reviewed evidence greatly contributes. Also, I don't enjoy blindly following superiors. I need a good solid reason to get behind. I guess I just don't put large amounts of faith into things.
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>>707021477
i believe in god. i just dont think he cares about me enough to help me. or even love me. i believe in god. i just dont think he believes in me.
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>>707028850
>atheists along with believers of higher power are autistics

I think that covers everyone on the planet.
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>>707028669
Nailed it brother.

>>707028770
isis terrorist... Believes in god.
Thousands of years of wars fought over the name of god.

Let me know when an atheist shoots up a catholic school and then we'll talk.
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Same reason you don't believe in the spaghetti monster or orbitong teapot or unicorns. It's all very, extremely, unlikely and improbable. The burden of proof lies with the one making ridiculous claims. In this case that's a collection if manuscripts written a long time agi that don't offer any evidence at all.
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>>707027191

Pascal's Wager. Don't you think an omniscient being would see through such a dishonest reason for believing?

What if you believed in the wrong god? There's more than just YHWH y'know?
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>>707028922
He believes in you. We all need a good laugh some times.
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>>707028770
>right when the world is going to shit

Yeah, things used to be so much better in the past, right? Slavery and plague and dying in childbirth.
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I am.not attractive and i have a small dick.
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>>707028951
isis terrorist worship a false god
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Dubs and there is a God
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>>707029043by that logic ever god is a false god.
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Fuck all your beliefs. It's all what you think. That thought makes your reality/surroundings. What you feel IS becomes. Common Fucking SENSE. Fuck you OP. Fuck you if read this, anyone.
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>>707029043
You also worship a false god.
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>>707021477
Christopher Hitchens
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>>707024528
Bait much?
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Hello guys sorry for english but I believe in Allah. You see we not bad people and allah is good! If you believe in allah ur lifes dreams will come true my friends. Goodluck to u all brothers :-)
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>>707028853
>fourfold crossrip
What do you mean anon?

Etheric/astral, potato/patato. Diff names same thing
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Raised without religion, but had people trying to convert me for many months. Basically boiled down to this:

>How do I know God exists?
>Did you try praying?
>Yes.
>Did it work?
>No.
>Then you must not have prayed hard enough.
>How do I pray harder?
>By believing in God!

Well, shit. If we're going to assume our own conclusion anyway, it doesn't really matter whether God exists or not.
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>>707021477

No evidence but Idon't know if a god exists, but I do KNOW the Abrahamic God doesn't exist, for He is an illogical concept, rife with contradiction - a square circle of loving wrath, known to have gone through an evolution as He was compiled by the ancients throughout history.
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>>707028975

Further to that, in the case of the Bible
/Tanakh/Quran, so much of it is demonstrably wrong, about so very much, that the evidence against their veracity is overwhelming. If it were true, Christian and Islamic apologetics wouldn't be a thing.
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>>707022717
what losers like you have lost in /b/, nobody wants to hear your shitty motivating comments around here little preak
I bet you were born after 2000 that you can still talk like a little hopeful bitch cunt
kill yourself
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>>707029043
They dont even own qurans. Isis is brainwashed marines forfilling killarys war crimes
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>>707029244
guys I am this man friend and I can confirm that allah is only way to make ur dreams true friends! Please believe in allah friends! I want best for u all
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>>707029357
he's quoting Ghostbusters, you turd
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>>707029490
thanks brother
Hope these people will understand and praise and love allah like we do!
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>>707029463
ISIS doesn't even own Qur'ans? Wow, that's a new one. Tell me more, Mr. Information Man!
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Fucking idiots.
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>>707029623
Al qaeda videos were made by some firm that the CIA hired. Its lies. The radical jihadists are created by the cia to establish economic control of other countries. Also killary sold weapons to isis
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>>707027195
I'm glad you're finally figuring this out ;)
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>>707029748
Libtard loser
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>>707029823
http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-beheadings-of-journalists-cia-admitted-to-staging-fake-jihadist-videos-in-2010/5399345
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>>707021477
I dont believe in Unicorns. Why should i start believing in any other fairy tales?
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>>707029894
I heard there are unicorns in the bible.
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Christianity All things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye so to them; for this is the law and the prophets.
Matthew 7:1
Confucianism Do not do to others what you would not like yourself. Then there will be no resentment against you, either in the family or in the state.
Analects 12:2
Buddhism Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful.
Udana-Varga 5,1
Hinduism This is the sum of duty; do naught onto others what you would not have them do unto you.
Mahabharata 5,1517
Islam No one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself.
Sunnah
Judaism What is hateful to you, do not do to your fellowman. This is the entire Law; all the rest is commentary.
Talmud, Shabbat 3id
Taoism Regard your neighbor’s gain as your gain, and your neighbor’s loss as your own loss.
Tai Shang Kan Yin P’ien
Zoroastrianism That nature alone is good which refrains from doing another whatsoever is not good for itself.
Dadisten-I-dinik, 94,5


Still death and destruction.
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>>707029244
>>707029490
>>707029620
Samefagging this hard.Kill yourself brainwashed underage sandnigger
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>>707022853
Stockholm syndrome
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>>707029997
Nice quads /brother/
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There are more reasons to believe than not to. OP is euphoric.
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- I've seen a reptilian alien serpent looking being

- I've seen a big ass demon's shadow on the ground at like 2-3am

- I somehow magically expelled my heart out through my mouth and ended up living

...and God didn't once show his face or at least let me know he was there.

I'm probably going to Hell but before I do, I at least want an audience with an angel or someshit so I can ask why I'm still alive and whatnot

inb4 some anon has a faggy quip in response to this.
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>>707030168
>There are more reasons to believe than not to.
Such as...?
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>>707030172
>inb4 some anon has a faggy quip in response to this.
You should probably see a psychiatrist about these episodes.
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>>707030172
what I know you are not medically retarded cause you typed that, but like what??? How much drugs do you do?
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>>707029961
Everyone thinks they're too smart for good advice. Nothing new here. God probably decided to let it burn like 2000 years ago
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>>707030268
(diff anon) well having some sort of spiritual life is one way of achieving general wellness.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jknynk5vny8
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>>707030426
I'm not sure how any of that's a reason to form beliefs about supernatural entities.
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GUYS, all the people who dont believe in god are victims to satan. It is literally stated in the bible numerous times that the devil rules this world, and what's the devils goal???? That's right!, to make people not believe in god. Its very simple. LOOK IT UP IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME GUYS, all the people who dont believe in god are victims to satan. It is literally stated in the bible numerous times that the devil rules this world, and what's the devils goal???? That's right!, to make people not believe in god. Its very simple. LOOK IT UP IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME GUYS, all the people who dont believe in god are victims to satan. It is literally stated in the bible numerous times that the devil rules this world, and what's the devils goal???? That's right!, to make people not believe in god. Its very simple. LOOK IT UP IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME
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>>707030342
No.

>>707030353
Suboxone.
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>>707030511
Nice ip grabber loser
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>>707021477
im agnostic actually, but i somehow doubt the bible or any known religion is right, though if i had to choose one it would be Buddhism
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>>707021477
He broke my commodore 64 for no reason, back in the day. Then I stopped believing
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>>707030268
>reasons not to believe
He hasn't personally shook my hand
>reasons to believe
Name anything that makes you feel small. Unless you're an ego dip. Then don't bother
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>>707030566
oh damn you caught me
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>>707030552
That's why its called faith. Congrats
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>>707021477
when i was young i was not repeatedly told that god was a thing
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>>707030552
Im not saying to believe in god im saying having some kind of beliefs or a sense of purpose helps us live our healthiest
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>>707030597
Buddhism is pretty spot on
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>>707030783
then ur parents failed you
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>>707030597
I actually liked the fundamentals of Buddhism.
However to be enlighten one must pretty much stop caring about self-pride, greed, love, and anger.

That way they can be happy.. but if you give up all those things what's the point in being enlighten?
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>>707030658
>Name anything that makes you feel small.
What does that have to do with reasons to believe in God?
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>>707030552
>instantly replaces god with wizard in the sky

So intellectual. Very complex.
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>>707030758
We were talking about reasons to believe, dipshit.
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>>707030815
>Im not saying to believe in god
Then you're just changing the subject.
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>>707030944
>what does feeling small have to do with belief in something greater?

You are not a smart man.
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BELIEVE IN GOD NOW MOTHERFUCKERS!?
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>>707030945
>So intellectual. Very complex.
God's a supernatural entity by definition. You're the one guilty of conflating supernatural entities with wizards in the sky.
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>>707030971
Because you want to and it feels better than being an aimless, edgy nerd.
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faith literally means believing something blindly without proof.

I'm skeptical of Aliens visiting Earth, I'm skeptical of my government actually caring about it's citizens, and you niggers want me to believe the creator of everything based on nothing.. if you can do that you're an idiot.
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I like to think he does exist. And he decided to give me broken peepers. Its less depressing.
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>>707031036
There's an enormous difference between believing in something greater and believing in God, so you're not making any sense.
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>>707031007
Or you're holding the topic where you can simply redefine the meaning of god as many times as you want to disagree.
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>>707031231
You fucking idiot XD
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>>707031134
I'm not sure "it feels good" is a legitimate reason to form beliefs about the nature of reality.
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>>707031007
A spiritual life =/= believing in supernatural entities.
Im not telling you to believe in any entities
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>>707031141
>literally


Kill yourself please.
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>>707031235
The question was about reasons to believe in God, and then you said you're not talking about believing in God. That's changing the subject.
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>>707031334
>Im not telling you to believe in any entities
Then how is this relevant to the question of reasons to believe in God?
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>>707031325
And you're not sure it isn't. But you think you are because you know everything.
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>>707031379
>doesn't believe in god
>knows exactly what he is though

You are super special
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Why don't you believe in unicorns anon?
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>>707031448
nobody here claimed to know everything, so... what?
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>>707031432
>please tell me how religion works in one post

Read a fucking book.
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>>707031432
Believing in god is one of many ways to live a spiritual life. Theres others. Doesnt have to be an entity. It can be anything you want really. Its all personal.
https://wellness.ucr.edu/spiritual_wellness.html
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>>707031630
>I'm arguing with everyone
>based on what I don't know


Hey you said it not me.
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>>707031549
I only know the standard definition of 'God' that everyday people and dictionaries generally use. And if someone walks into a conversation about reasons to believe in God, and says they're not talking about believing in God, then how are they not changing the subject?
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>>707031702
So that's not really a reason to believe in God. At most it's a reason to meditate and look at sunsets and be kind to animals. Not to form crazy beliefs.
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>>707031650
??? "Believe in God, but I'm not telling you to believe in any entities"
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>>707031759
You are way to hung up. It's called belief because it is inspired. Not because someone read the dictionary and was reborn.


Approaching belief analytically is pointless, and biased.
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>>707031736
you don't have to know everything to point out stupidity
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>>707031891
>saying the same thing again and again because your bait isn't addressed.

God bless.
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>>707031903
So you're saying to have a conversation where we pay no attention to what people say, or what they're talking about. Just turn off all critical thinking and mouth words meaninglessly. OK.
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>>707031841
These crazy beliefs were enforced because it fit a certain agenda
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>>707031938
If you know enough however, pointing out stupidity is a waste of time.
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>>707031379
okay you want me to list my reasons why i don't believe in gawd.

1. I didn't grow up being forced to believe it.

2. I wasn't weak enough to depend on a higher being for spiritual strength. (I believe we as humans are special, but not because of god. So stop giving him all the credit when we do things right.)

3.I didn't believe in feels over reals so when tragic events happened in my life I didn't "need answers".

4. I do feel small, but I don't believe in a higher power, there is no evidence to support this claim.

5. Anything you feel is subjective, or can be explained by projection. People want to believe so much they will lie to themselves.

6. I don't care about the after life, I believe when we die that was our chance, we better have done something worth while when we had it.

7. I don't believe life is meaningless without god. If anything god takes meaning from life, it's like putting god before you. The most important thing in your life should be you or the people you care about, not a fictional being.

8. Not believing god does not mean I have no morals, I've seen people who believe in god and a sometimes they are dicks. Maybe they think it's okay cause they can ask for forgiveness. I treat others how i want to be treated.. you'd be surprised how few Christians do this too.

9. It seems people believe in whatever they want to, and when you do this can you really say you truly believe in anything?

10. If getting a tattoo is a sin, does it make you retarded when you get a tattoo of a cross?
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>>707023931
Anselmus of Canterbury's ontological proof of God.
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>>707024094
> Kills the firstborn of all Egyptians because daddy was mean to the Israelites
> this is not a grudge
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>>707032060
Or maybe I'm saying : how do you suspect to get answers for things you don't currently know unless you suspend your current ideas?

It is impossible.
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>>707024973
keanu reeves immortal confirmed
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>>707032261
>how do you suspect to get answers for things you don't currently know unless you suspend your current ideas?
You ask people for their reasons and see how strong they are.
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>>707032166
not even his fellow theologians thought that proof worked
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>>707032395
>doubt everything until he personally shakes my hand

/atheism
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>>707032155
>we better have done something worth while when we had it.

Why even do something worthwhile when we become nothing after we die? Explain the reason.
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>>707032538
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>>707032538
How is it excessively skeptical to not believe something that sounds ridiculous until you find good reasons for believing it? If a homeless man tells you the Grand Canyon has a mind and it hates left-handed people, are you a stubborn skeptic if you hold out for evidence?
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>>707032395
>ask someone to change my entire world view by telling me about something I don't believe

Do you know what an oxymoron is?
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>>707032732
>evidence of an omnipotent hidden entity that works silently in everyone's life
OX
Y
MORON
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>>707032688
To me life isn't the end result it's how you lived it. All we know when we die is that there will be others to remember you in that world. Lets say you die tomorrow just because you are nothing that doesn't mean life doesn't matter, but you can think differently everyone can interrupt life however they want there are no right answers as every person is different. So we cannot all have the same thinking process, and morals for right and wrong.
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Wait... Why is no one defending Santa..?
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>>707032853
For being such an oxymoron, there sure are tons and tons and tons of people who claim that there is strong evidence for God's existence. Maybe you should let them in on what an oxymoron it is.
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>>707032731
This is incredibly accurate now that you mention it.
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>>707032944
Your right
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>>707032973
Maybe "evidence" is relative and OP is far too literal for spirituality.
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>>707032971
Because we all know he is real
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>>707032971
No worries, little one. He watches over you.
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>>707033098
"evidence" is relative? I'm a Holocaust denier, and there's nothing irrational about that, because evidence is relative!
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>>707032240
Christians don't really preach the old testament though, that's just the kikes
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>>707032973
>strong evidence

And OP is demanding conclusive evidence. Nice goal posts.
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>>707021703
Niggers are God's mistake, hence why he's starving them.
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>>707033226
People will believe what they want.
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>>707033294
What? I'm not OP. And there's also plenty of believers who claim that there's conclusive evidence. I don't see the alleged oxymoron. Could you explain it?
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>>707032971
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>>707033386
>what? Everyone on this board is anonymous
>can I pick you apart near the end of a thread for false confidence?

No
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>>707033294
>the original poster you responded to

Genius, genius everywhere
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>>707033524
You're not making any sense. What's the oxymoron?
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>>707032732
>redefine what you said in extreme views
You should run for president
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>>707033720
>I don't understand, you need to explain it stupider

No I don't
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>>707033790
"redefine"? Are you drunk? Sleep-deprived? Your comments aren't coherent.
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>>707033916
You're just slow

*tips fedora*
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>>707033916
>muh last word
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>>707032971
Sssh anon, it's alright. You had to find out sooner or later.
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Because you can prove that theres no god...
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>>707033974
Do you know how to make points, or only how to deploy memes?
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