So I've read articles about the Ukrainian child porn raids that happened back in 2004 that effectively ended one of the biggest cp networks in the world at that time, known as LS Studios. My question is this...why?...
"Why", as in why would any parent allow their daughters to be sexually abused by a so-called "modelling agency"?
What would they have gained from knowing that their kids were being photographed naked for sick fucks all over the globe to jack off to?
I've never understood what could drive families to subject the girls to that. Money, despite all its value, shouldn't lead anyone down that path.
Maybe I just don't get it...Maybe I'm an old fashioned asshole that still has some morality about him...
>>706501120
fag
>>706501120
stay in your safe space
>>706501313
Still doesn't answer my question
Did it ever occur to you that they were most likely victims of human trafficking? Kidnapped, sexually abused, sold off to be abused by someone else for profit for the remainder of their miserable existences.
>>706502025
I wouldn't doubt that at all, however, the official story pretty much said it was a willing effort on the part of parents. They even sent out ads for the models.
In reality, the girls and their families were just paid cash to have pictures taken of them. Its really as simple as that. Remember, they're not as prudish as we are in the states and other western european/ English-speaking countries.
>>706501559
What does that have to do with anything? You just lack basic comprehension.
>>706502428
I know it was financial and whatnot, but these pics were apparently pretty damn indecent, even if they didn't depict rape or direct sexual contact with an adult.
Give it time. This culture will degenerate as the SJW triggers against the moral judgers. I mean, who the fuck are you to tell me I am a woman if I identify as a homosexual male spider monkey?
As gender disappears, so will taboo. Namba and other sick fuck organizations will rule.
>>706502499
you're not aware of the real world. you just live a blissful life of ignorance.
>>706502428
Also, no society allows or condones sexual abuse of kids. The end of the cold war put huge financial strain on Ukraine though....
>>706501120
>"Why", as in why would any parent allow their daughters to be sexually abused by a so-called "modelling agency"?
money
>What would they have gained from knowing that their kids were being photographed naked for sick fucks all over the globe to jack off to?
money
>I've never understood what could drive families to subject the girls to that.
money
>Maybe I just don't get it
seems so
>>706502929
> Also, no society allows or condones sexual abuse of kids
Mudslimes think it's okay for grown men to marry 9-year-olds.
>>706502821
I take that into account and assume you were sexually abused as a child as well?
>>706502714
It was literally just naked pictures of little girls. Nothing explicitly sexual save for the odd close up here and there.
>>706502977
>>706501120
There doesn't even need to be a good reason.
Most common are money, lust, lack of self control, lifestyle, sociopathic tendencies
How the kids get in?
Abandonment
Orphans
Abduction
Forced by parents
>>706502825
I don't. I live a life of trying to see reason and truth behind certain things. If this offends you, and if you condone little girls' childhoods being stolen from them, then maybe you should stare at the mirror longer and try to examine yourself a little, hmm?
>>706501120
money is a strong factor, and theres a big demand bigger than most people realize and the more illegal something is the higher the price will be, its.. a horrible goldmine
>>706503272
To be honest, I think it's more the parents forcing them into it than anything else
>>706503281
If you're in disbelief this happens then you live in a safe space
For the moral and sane there's no good reason for this. There are still reasons though
>>706502821
it's pretty fucking crazy tbh how many pedo sympathizers are among SJW
>>706503215
The Vietnam picture was a photo of a naked little girl....LS Studios produced child pornography, plain and simple. It doesn't matter if it wasn't intercourse. Childhoods died in the process...
>>706503082
Can I participate in this discussion without your ignorant assumptions?
Is there a line between thought crime and actual physical crime?
I remember reading about this. I also remember thinking why didn't any parents get busted...
Abuse is abuse. That is a separate thing. But is taking pictures abuse, especially if condoned and agreed to by all parties?
>>706503440
I was explaining why the predators do that
The kids could have any of those reasons too, but I'd add needing support to the list as well
Ukraine is a shithole full of the worst humanity has to offer. Putin is trying to fix it.
>>706503351
It's pretty much the same with drugs on the deep web...or anywhere for that matter :(
Pay all my bills by letting you take pictures of my daughters axe wound? She isnt worth anything any way
>>706503751
combine all your drugs and try them at once
>>706503648
My childhood died when Optimus Prime died.
>>706503869
Mine did when daddy rammed my asshole with his friends
>>706503700
It depends on the legislation regarding cp in the respective countries. I think even the UN has overarching rules and opinions on what constitutes cp. Definitely the pics taken qualified as such
>>706503955
Faggot
>>706503743
You don't watch a whole lotta news, do you Mr. Wayne?....
>>706503648
I read an open letter from one of the former models once. She said she didn't mind it and she had fun doing it.
>>706503869
Seems like a valid argument...
>>706504204
I read an article on WikiLeaks regarding the cp industry in Ukraine, and the anonymous writer of the article said pretty much the same thing. I still think he's lying though. Too many girls were abused for all or even the majority to have thought it was ok.
>>706503955
Cool...
>>706504174
shut fuck up you fuck nigger. who fuck are you to say shit to me over internet. I hope Osama come back and fucks u up. Fucking American turds
>>706503784
Like I said...Ukraine was going through some tough times man....Still doesn't make it ok...
>>706504416
Well, you must have spent a lot of time in that industry for such an informed opinion, right? Otherwise it's just that... An opinion based solely on your own views of morality, discounting anything that goes against it. Right?
>>706504534
the lube had a weird hot/cold effect
>>706504613
Dude are you a fucking Arab or something?
>>706504723
fuck off jim
>>706504798
fuck American nigger. You get bombed soon. fuck faggot America
>>706504613
What the desu did you just fucking desu about me, you little desu? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my desu in the Navy Desus, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret desus on Al-Desu, and I have over 300 confirmed desus. I am trained in desu warfare and I’m the top desu in the entire US armed desu. You are nothing to me but just another desu. I will desu you the fuck out with desu the likes of which has never been seen before on this desu, mark my fucking desu. You think you can get away with saying that desu to me over the desu? Think again, desu. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of desu across the USA and your desu is being traced right now so you better prepare for the spam, maggot. The spam that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your desu. You’re fucking desu, kid. I can be desu, desu, and I can desu you in over desu ways, and that’s just with my bare desu. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed desu, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Desu and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable desu off the face of the desu, you little desu. If only you could have known what unholy desu your little “desu” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking desu. But you desu, you desu, and now you’re desu, you goddamn desu. I will shit desu all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking desu, kiddo.
>>706504723
Why are you so ready to defend something that is not only clearly wrong morally, but also a massive violation of international law?
>>706501120
Money mostly. Ukraine is a really poor country.
>>706504416
you cant imagine people not caring about something that doesnt hurt anyone?
its not a farfetched idea that they would later look back and still not care despite the purpose of those shoots due to no real harm being done.
its a bit similar to the idea of teenagers getting drunk with thier parents where they're safe instead of at a party with a bunch of shady fucks. extreme comparison, i know but its close enough.
>>706504731
Congratulations
>>706505072
thx fam
>>706501120
>>706501120
>for many people 14-16 is a sexually active age, especially in other countries
>it was good money
>girls were supposedly treated well
Life is hard man, and photos are better than prostitution if you are poor.
>>706504985
Because the pictures they produced were not harmful in any way. Its only adults pressing their discomfort onto those kids that makes it wrong. They had fun doing and made money in the process. They wouldn't know it was wrong until someone told them it was.
>>706504937
fuck do desu a Japanese copula (です), or word used to grammatically link a subject and predicate, often translated into English using the verb "it is/to be" DESU, an abbreviation for Delaware State University. have to do with shit
>>706505030
I believe, honestly, that those shoots did some pretty substantial damage, as cliché as it sounds. Those people abused a lot of kids man....Mentally, this shit fucks people up in ways you might not (I assume) begin to imagine. Just sayin'
>>706501120
Not justifying it, but it's probably very different, us, able to afford internet and tech, and a family that only gets to eat a few times a week and has no real home
Can't really judge someone's bad decisions without knowing their situation
The mom from New Mexico that pimped out her 10 year old that got killed and chopped up, that's different. She should be killed off
>>706505325
>>706505291
nude modeling should be legal at all ages
not assfucking babies though
>>706501120
no matter what these sick fucks are saying in this thread thank you for posting this, i love /b but lolis and pedophiles are fucking cancer and seeing that shit gives me fucking tumors.
>>706504985
Are you saying that the kids were dumb enough to believe that what was happening to them was right?
>>706502929
>Islam forces 10 year olds to marry. Only real rule is no sex before puberty. Guess how well that rule works
>>706505506
Yes.
>>706505501
I felt like I needed to say something about it, in all honesty...
>>706505345
nah. im a pedophile. im their target demographic. you have to take into account its a different culture. as long as they're treated well, and paid, then no one really gives a shit who does what with those photos.
>>706505466
Nice filename
>>706505489
Agreed. If they are enjoying themselves, who are we to stop it?
>>706505466
>>706505466
I don't have a mom. I have a transitioned dad and a bio dad though
>>706505378
Like I said, Ukraine was and still is a kinda shithole tbh. But again, these people were predators from the start. They even put out public ads for kids to exploit, trying to capitalize on the poverty in Ukrainian society. Its all very disturbing. I feel sorry for those kids...
>>706501120
Where exactly do people find underage sex slaves to purchase? I keep hearing that it's an epidemic in this country (USA) but I have no idea how people find them.
>>706503648
this is silly
I remember being 6-10yrs playing doctors and nurses with plenty of little girls, their and my childhood did not "die" because i saw their bald hot quims
>>706505501
I've never had a better reason to be a pedo
Conservative sexual values are a societal thing, a woman being held at lower value if she has been promiscuous isn't a thing naturally in our minds, so if there isn't an inherent instinct for that view then a child isn't going to intuitively comprehend it
>>706505489
Tell that to Interpol, UNICEF, and every police force/legislature on the planet
>>706505684
Not even the government? They didn't get shut down for no reason ya know...
>>706505652
it's just sad, pedos are lurking all over and not many people seem to care so it really restores my faith to see shit like this, thankfully i don't see too much animal torture, that's another thing that drives me fucking crazy.
>>706505942
They have their black market sources. I assume the deep web would suit their needs
>Sick fucks
>>706505942
The shit's not retail. One dealer sells the kids to brothels. They aren't peddling to individuals.
>>706506048
chartsbin(replace with dot)com(deletethis)/view/q4y
lots of places agree with me
>>706506168
im talking about the potential psychological harm that these operations could do to the children. nothing about its legality. on that note, have you never heard of people talk about sexual experiences as the child in one of those situations? sure a lot are about abuse, pain, and all that shit. but you can sure as fuck find people who were 100% aware of what was happening and was down with it. its not an entirely unreasonable idea to think that might be a thing in these cases.
>>706506307
Fuck brothels. I want to buy one for myself.
>>706506219
most of us arent even doing anything wrong m8. non offending pedophiles are a thing.
>>706506334
I'm not saying they don't. I'm saying that the law is not on your side. International law dictates that you and your pedo friends should be locked up for a long ass time.
>>706506467
kek.
>>706501120
The truth is that they weren't touched by the photographers. That would have been considered abuse in Ukraine. As that didn't happen, no parents were willing to press charges. Since it was 'just' nudity, nobody cared until the US government got involved. Even after, I don't think anyone went to jail.
>>706506411
I 100% agree that it can do massive amounts of harm to a child. I never doubted any of those facts.
>>706506517
>simply state opinion
>you're going to jail because of some bullshit fags club
come find me fucker
>>706506684
im also arguing that it can not do that. that it can be a great experience for them. even more of a chance for that when its something as simple as modeling in clothes that makes them feel great at that moment.
So anyone have any good Dropbox links?
>>706506666
Are you seriously saying that even if they weren't physically molested, that Ukraine didn't consider the photos to be sexual exploitation of children? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!
>>706506504
are you saying it's possible to be a pedo and not be a bad person? because you're wrong.
>>706506504
Riiiiight....
>>706506666
satan confirms
no harm; no foul
>>706506666
noice
>>706506732
>bullshit fags club
>UN and Interpol
Try harder matey...
>>706506875
Yep, and most of the photographers were women. It is a different culture. Slavic countries have different view on SOME things. You'll see 10 year olds in stilletos that aren't prostitutes.
>>706505942
1] trailer parks
2] truck stops
3] trailer parks near truck stops
4] orphanages if you're sneaky enough
>>706505466
What the fuck you just silly to say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy, and I've been involved in many secret raids on Quaeda channel, and I have more than 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm a sniper senior in the armed forces of the United States. You are nothing to me but just another goal. It will wipe out the curse you accurately likes of which is unprecedented on this earth, on the occasion of my silly. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me via the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I'm on a secret network of spies across the United States, communication and follow your IP now even better prepare for the storm can, larva. The storm that destroys sexy little thing pathetic calls your life. You are fucking dead, baby. I could be anywhere, at any time, and I can kill you in more than seven hundred ways, and this is just a bare hand. I have not only trained extensively in unarmed combat, but I have access to the full arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and will be used to the maximum extent to eliminate the miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. What you can not see what is the penalty you have a sacred "smart" small comment on the verge of dropping you, perhaps you've held your tongue and ridiculous. But you can not, do not, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. The anger shit all over you, and you will drown in it. You are fucking dead, baby.
>>706506971
my next argument is that you cant choose to be a pedo or not. if i could i wouldnt be one. unfortunately my sexual attraction doesnt stop because secoiety says its a no no.
>>706506993
virped.org
you dont have to try hard to get one of us to crawl out and have a chat. just ask us some shit if you want. many of us condemn pro contact pedos. no ones getting hurt right? whats the problem?
>>706506844
Dude, I understand your basic contention, but understand something.....Kids aren't dumb.
That shit about them "feeling good" is some bullshit lie propagated by pedophiles in order to justify what happened.
>>706506858
found the pedo
>>706502977
This guy gets it
>>706507343
>found the FBI
ftfy.
>>706507243
Okay dude first off,
1) A REAL Navy sniper wouldn't go around bragging about his accomplishments and possibly reveal his identity.
2) The United States isn't a totalitarian regime so if you were to attack citizens randomly, then you'd be going to jail
and
3) What is a Navy Seal doing on 4chan anyways?
You're probably a NEWFAG who cannot get fucking laid.
>>706507243
>The storm that destroys sexy little thing pathetic calls your life.
kek
>>706507119
Jesus...Mishovy Silenosti must be next...
Bunch of newfags in this thread. Does no one remember the mods would post CP and LS was the tame stuff nobody gave a shit about?
>>706507430
B8'd
>>706503648
>Childhoods died in the process...
Lol get rekt kunt
>>706507311
>Kids aren't dumb.
shocking revelation m8.
>That shit about them "feeling good" is some bullshit lie propagated by pedophiles in order to justify what happened.
>who is Milo Yiannopolis?
he had a sexual experience with a much older man when he was very young. he considered it a positive experience for both of them and didnt report him. can you not handle kids, who arent dumb, understanding what they're getting into and enjoy those experiences? its a thing whether you like it or not.
>>706507430
Good lord anon...
>>706507522
To be fair, Snacks was an admin. He had power far beyond a mod.
>>706507417
No, I'm one of you
I like pepe and what Trump has to say.
They are very respectable people and should run America.
>>706507430
found the real new fag
>>706507522
Doesn't matter if nobody gave a shit. It's production is considered illegal activity under international law.
>>706507758
Well that's true.
>>706507430
You're the newfag and I should know.
I've been here since '01
You've probably never even heard of chocolate rain, lol
>>706507893
No.
>>706507774
kek Kompaд
>>706507920
I hate that fucking kike
>>706507893
No.
>>706501120
Why? Money. I'm assuming you're posting from somewhere with no real poverty. And I don't mean US poverty, I real fucking poverty.
>>706508071
I'm from the Caribbean actually. We're not too badly off in terms of general wealth.
>>706507291
you must have weak constitution then or you're deeply afflicted by something that changed who you are and gave you your disgusting mind state which would make me pity you a little. keeping CP alive is making you part of the problem though. the fact that you still have access to internet and you're building a community spreading more filth to other people giving a demand for CP makes you a problem, whether you want to believe that or not is up to you.
>>706508071
Around the turn of the century, a friend of mine was working in St. Petersberg and would regularly see girls 10 and up standing on street corners.
>>706508071
Also, I know Ukraine is in a state of overall poverty and poor conditions. It just seemed like parents were too quick to throw morals out the window in these cases...
>>706507522
I remember anon. Masha and Laura b shit was almost tasteful art when compared to actual cp that would make these newkids physically sick to even witness. Most of the worst stuff was American too.
>>706508285
fuck da police
>>706508285
Law Enforcement. Also, BLM.
>>706508474
actually more like
>fuck the kids
you god damn pedo
>>706508429
A lot of child models come from a town called Ovruch in Ukraine. Ovruch isn't even poor by Ukraine standards. It's just not seen as abuse, so the girls don't feel abused.
>>706508326
Sounds about right from all the reports I've heard. Ya know, I've always wondered why news outlets like the BBC never did any stories or documentaries on child prostitution in Eastern Europe or something like that.
>>706508285
here, let me break this down for you my man. can homosexuals chose to be gay or not? why cant pedophilia be the same way? trust me man, if i could choose to not have an attraction to something that could end my life, i would. but my dick doesnt work like that. its gonna like what it likes.
why do you assume im in favor of CP? im not. i just accept the reality that there are, infact, some kids who look back at what happened and legitimately do not give a fuck. its the whole idea of you cant change your past. i dont get why you dont understand this.
>>706508676
If the prophet Muhammad did it why can't I?
>>706508723
>>706508723
Because then they would have implicated all of their politicians. Can't have that happening.
Pics or it didn't hapen
>>706508326
And he would just wink at them right?
K
>>706508721
Is child modelling still a big underground industry over there, or did it go the way of the dodo bird when LS shut down?
>>706508883
He told me he kept to 12 and up.
>>706506858
This guy. Anybody got a db?
>>706508854
>>706508985
you will burn in hell infidel
>>706508870
My God...I feel like I'm in a scene from Spotlight or some shit...So you think government officials are in on this, right?
>>706508927
It's still going on, but to what degree I don't know. I know a few girls that still do it, develop a fanbase and get money from their fans.
>>706508011
Faggot.
>>706508944
A man after my own heart. Das vedanya
>>706509125
In on it in the sense that they are taking advantage of the situation, not necessarily causing it.
Child rapists have issues with power, which explains why they end up as politicians.
>>706509142
Seems logical. Can't UNICEF or any other child-centric organization or charity intervene in this crisis? (sorry for sounding white knightey)
>>706509263
>Das vedanya
xaxa spasibo.
>>706509194
haha. She's jewish and she thinks she's better than you. She wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, you autist nigger.
>>706509392
The truth is people don't care enough give enough money to charity to solve these problems.
They will give money to see little girls in skimpy clothes, or nude for a little more.
That's your reality for you.
>>706509296
These guys were frickin crafty though...According to reports, they created several different titles to brand the photos under to evade suspicion, and even used high profile encryption software (for 2004 of course)
LS Studios produced some of the sexiest material ever captured on camera. Those girls were captured in their natural, pure beauty. No props, no dildos, no schlongs, just cute naked girls.
Epic shit
>>706509392
>in this crisis
it's photos, m8.
not refugee gang rape...
>>706509772
Why are you such a raging pedo, sir?...
>>706508823
>can homosexuals chose to be gay or not?
in most cases no.
>why cant pedophilia be the same way?
i don't really know what to tell you because i dont understand why a pedo is a pedo, all i can say is it's wrong, a whole category of wrong, along with zoophilia and necrophilia. just things that i things that are crimes against nature, sure pedophilia is a bit less wrong than those but i just feel like if you like any of these things you are a bad person sorry. i don't get why you don't understand this either.
>>706509660
Not really. I remember stumbling across it in 2001. It was beginning of the mail order slavic bride thing and I was googling it and came across it. Shocked the shit out of me.
>>706507430
>>706509656
Nah, that's not true. There are still people and institutions out there who serve their purpose well and still care about their fellow man, especially kids. I still hold out hope.
>>706509569
Your jelly is showing anon. She is an incredible actress, even at that age, has a college degree in psychology (not sure if masters or doctorate), and she is a humanitarian/philanthropist. If anything, she is clearly better than you, I am better than you, and the shit I'll probably be flushing in the next 20 minutes is better than you too.
>>706509837
It's a humanitarian crisis mate...It was always highly illegal and incredibly immoral.
>>706510078
You'd be wrong. If it were the case that we cared about kids, there wouldn't be kids in the abject poverty that there is now.
>>706510100
She's never gonna fuck you dude. KYS
I have learned something here:
Retarded people are too retarded to recognize they are retarded. So if you tel them to kill themselves, they will just ignore you because they are too retarded to realize that they are that retarded.
Why I write this? Because everyone who actually argues with "moral" and who needs to see the world in black and white is a retard. If you, dear reader, think there are absolute goods and evils in this world, then you are a retard and should kys.
But since you are a retard, you probably won't do that. Shame. We don't need retards on this world, but retards are just too egoistical.
I wish for some day when we determine all people's intelligence and just kill off all those who score 105 and lower. Even if that hit me I'd give up my life for the greater good.
>>706509919
I can imagine
Also, did you really try to order a bride online?...
>>706510062
According to reports, the outfits were custom made for the shoots. Nothing natural about that shit sonny...
>>706510312
>>706509917
>all i can say is it's wrong, a whole category of wrong, along with zoophilia and necrophilia.
All I can say is you are retarded. Samefagging hard, but >>706510376 - please kys.
>>706510408
No, I was just curious.
>>706510548
That's some high production value.
>>706510290
Poverty is a difficult problem to fully eradicate altogether. But we can try to work on it...
>>706510376
> people's intelligence and just kill off all those who score 105 and lower
so i'm too dumb to think kids are hot is this where you are going anon?
>>706509917
>in most cases no.
i hope those you excluded are those that are bisexual. you're wrong but at least you're not stupid.
>i don't really know what to tell you because i dont understand why a pedo is a pedo
same reason there are heteros, homos, asexuals, pedophiles, hebephiles ephebephiles, etc. the short answer is nature.
>all i can say is it's wrong, a whole category of wrong, along with zoophilia and necrophilia.
for the most part yeah, its harmful. im not going to judge zoophiles or necrophiles because i have the target philia here. while i find zoophilia repuslive and necrophilia boring, im not going to tell them they're sick. they cant help what gets their shit started. its their actions that matter. as such, many peodphiles are non offending and are perfectly fine. granted their fantasies stay fantasies and no one gets hurt.
if you want to ask something i might be able to answer as a pedophile, please ask. i love that i can talk to people like you and at least attempt to change a bit of your perspective.
>>706510376
Just admit you like kids, dude...
>>706510592
you can think we're samefagging. we type similarly but we're very different people. i wouldnt shit on pedophiles for some asinine reason as 'its disgusting'.
>>706510592
kys
>>706507311
You're sounding like some creepy conspiracy theorist. As in, things are simple to explain, but you just make them a lot harder with your "pedophile justification" story.
>>706510792
You are too dumb to understand that calling an entire group of people morally wrong is retarded. Morals are for retards, because understanding the underlying structures and circumstances are too complicated for you. That's why you refer to simple rules that are nice to adhere to when you are warm and comfortable and got a full belly, but are completely, utterly worthless when you are cold and wet and hungry.
Calling of a simple trade "just wrong" is so retarded that I literally feel my IQ dropping just browsing through this thread.
>>706510747
One of the sad realities is that the models are able to pay for their education by modeling. You take that away, and they will never be able to go to college.
I know a girl in Khazakastan that does it. She's now 14 years old and has been 'modeling' for half of her life. She even has an instagram with thousands of followers. If you take this away from her, the chance of her being able to go to college is next to 0.
>>706505976
this.
Also how they explain the kids nowadays who willingly hop on cam with whoever and show themselves.
Kids like attention. Some kids are interested in sex stuffs. Put the two together and some internet in the mix and leave em alone... cp producers aren't needed as much.
If nobody produced anymore out of fear, you still got the kids cammin it up.
Snapchat is kinda smart not saving anything on their servers. Damn that would be one hell of a repository.
>>706510643
They went to great lengths to make it that way...It was all part of the sick little industry they were involved in...Treat your audience to a gourmet serving of abused eye candy.....disgusting...
>>706510959
No, I was just referring to my own post and admitted it.
>>706511268
yeah, i re-read that and realized im dumb. im a bit on the defensive. for obvious reasons.
>>706511155
Found the pedo...
>>706506971
Are you saying its possible to be a fag and not be a bad person? because your wro-
oh wait.
>>706506517
the law the law the law. Robot.
>>706511404
Is that all you can do? Well, then I was spot-on with the retardedness.
>>706510376
Well, shit. That won't do much good. My IQ is 143 and I'll fap to any girl over ~8. Of course I wouldn't actually touch a girl younger than ~25.
>>706504640
So what if it isn't "ok"? Are you debating the reasons or ethics of selling a children to some lusty pedophiles? Because money seems like quite a good reason.
>>706511170
God damn....That's heartbreaking. Forced to prostitute yourself for camera just to go to college...holy fuck...
>>706503648
wow, you're pathetic
>OMG YOU RUINED HER CHILDHOOD BY TAKING A PICTURE
kek, just how sheltered from reality were you, dipshit
Best stay in your safe space, you'll bruise easily in the real world, I bet.
>>706511245
>>706501120
>Ukrainian child porn...My question is this...why?...
Because no one likes picaninny niglet turdler porn
>>706511591
lol. it happens all the time. How do you think half of the female students at UCLA pay for their education and living expenses?
>>706511591
>>706511491
I don't care to what girls you are fapping to. I just despise people who cannot think past their damn point of view. People who feel their way of thinking is completely right, and everyone who disagrees with that automatically is an horrible person. There might be very understandable, often quite complicated reasons why people feel and act as they do. Just calling that "wrong" makes me want to imagine public executions with those people screaming and crying how much they are right until the guillotine drops and they finally shut up.
>>706511757
topkek
>>706510826
i'm sorry just like how you feel the way you do and nothing will change that i feel the way i do and nothing will change that.
>granted their fantasies stay fantasies and no one gets hurt.
this this this. this means everything to me, if it's lolis then sure lolis their fake it's a drawing go ahead, get off to beheaded women? sure ok as long as you don't go do it IRL ok, do i think it's right? no, but it bothers me a lot less.
>in most cases no
i wasn't trying to exclude anybody just saying some people could probably change if they wanted, i have a fetish i can't escape from but it annoys me that i have it because content is hard to find so i work really hard not to cater to it which is another reason why i can't relate to pedos trapped in their fetish.
>>706511727
>inb4 BUT THEY ARE OF AGE!!1!
>>706511491
Best sex i ever had was with a 40 year old milf. Bitch could suck a dick. You have shit bassakwards.
>>706503648
>Childhoods died in the process.
No childhood was harmed during that process. The outside world isn't like america, where jewish propaganda dictates what people should think, and how they are supposed to act.
I can guarantee you that growing up in a single mother household in detroit is far more destructive to a child's mind than having some old fat fuck offering you money to take pictures of your pussy when you were eleven.
>>706511811
People support Hillary for less, why not admire their conviction?
>>706511915
>I had great sex with a tree
>you should have great sex with a tree too
... what?
>>706511811
>>>706511491
>I just despise people who cannot think past their damn point of view. People who feel their way of thinking is completely right, and everyone who disagrees with that automatically is an horrible person.
In other words... You?
>>706511915
How is that backwards?
>>706511891
>i'm sorry just like how you feel the way you do and nothing will change that i feel the way i do and nothing will change that.
i can respect that because you understand whats really important.
>i can't relate to pedos trapped in their fetish.
im not one, but i can. its fucking awful. fortunately i have a very diverse sexuality and can seek refuge in many different things. i talked to a pedo for a while who didnt have that luck and hes forced to stay in his secret corner to suffer through it.
>>706511997
At some point we have something to do about the dumb people on this planet. Frankly I don't care if our Hitler is called Clinton or Trump, as long as it's our Hitler.
>>706511971
>>706511971
>some old fat fuck offering you money to take pictures of your pussy when you were eleven
>>706511155
>Morals are for retards
well you've established your ideals. i believe strongly in whats right and wrong and believe something you'd never comprehend so we're on entirely different views of life.
>>706512088
I disagree with people having absolute morals. My only absolute moral is that there are no other absolute morals, or in something that even you should understand:
"I understand that I know nothing" - Socrates.
>>706511891
really there's no point in hating people because they have 'bad thoughts'. Some of your closest friends/family members might have thoughts you don't like but you'll never know unless they actually do something illegal
>>706512244
We could start by carpet-nuking the middle east.
>>706512396
Socrates wasn't even real.
>>706512248
Shut up /fur/fag you are ruining human sexuality too jacking off to dogs in diapers.
>>706512540
Fuck off. I'm putting a lot of dogs through college.
>>706512289
That's right, I don't understand.
I don't understand how people can be so ignorant, so full of themselves to think that they, only they have completely assessed a situation that they not only feel comfortable describing it, but also passing judgment over it. People like you are zealots. We had our share of zealots during history. Shit didn't go well with those zealots.
>>706507893
LAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWW LAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWW LAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>706512509
i wouldn't hate somebody for bad thoughts i would just think that they're a bad person family or not.
>>706512093
Its backwards because the Milf has experience and can give you a hell of a good time.
a kid doesn't and can't.
>>706512522
Are you retarded?
>>706512512
Turning the Middle East into a parking lot is a charming thought, I have to admit.
>>706501120
Money.
>>706512897
>a kid doesn't and can't.
You obviously don't know what you are talking about.
>>706512751
Thankyou daddy. I am all grown up now and teaching a class of my own thanks to you. Ruff Ruff
>>706512903
He wasn't. Socrates wasn't a real dude. Best guesses are that Plato invented his persona in order to further his dialogues.
>>706512396
So, in other words, having more than 1 absolute moral is something that you disagree with? Or is it having an absolute moral other than the one you have? Either way, you're contradicting yourself.
>>706502714
You're a raging sheltered faggot. Go fuck yourself with your safe stick you shitstain. Pictures probably brought in money to feed the pathetic families anyways. In the end, most of the children only had pictures taken of them..
>>706511913
>OF AGE
The moment fucking cats is legal you'll do it.
>>706501120
BBxsE9n
>>706503281
Ignorance is bliss
>>706513151
Pictures that were deemed illegal under local and international LAW
>>706513118
And where did you pick up that information? To my knowledge he was born 469 BC and "commited suicide" 399 BC in Athens.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates
>>706501120
Things weren't so great in Ukraine on the 90s and early 2000s. There were many abuses like this - 18 year old soldiers were pimped out for gay rich johns, for instance. People have to make ends meet and they justify it to themselves somehow.
>>706513378
university
>>706513118
Uh So-crates was met by Bill AND Ted, who could confirm it in person, if you wished.
>>706513394
Seems like you know your stuff.
>>706513369
Downloading music is also deemed illegal under local and international law.
Your point being?
>>706513014
Ok, the kid doesn't have DECADES OF EXPERIENCE that a milf does.
understand?
When hiring workers for building a new home, I would much rather hire the 40 worker who's got 20+ years under his belt than the 18yo kid who thinks you can treat a nail gun like a machine gun and rapid fire all over the roof.
And yes, I do pay my mexicans fairly.
>>706512897
Try reading my post again, smart guy. I wouldn't fuck anyone UNDER 25.
>>706513491
kek
>>706513133
>original meaning was: there's one moral that's always true - the one that all other morals are false, because you cannot know whether they are true or not
>you turn this into: having more than 1 absolute moral contradicts itself
Again, kys. Really. I am not saying this because I am evil, but because we have enough of your sort. We simply don't need you. Retards like you are running around everywhere. We don't even need you as soldiers anymore, we have drones now.
>>706512903
We'd have enough glass to make a strong dent in the intergalactic market.
>>706513479
You should switch faculties.
>>706512775
i have a strong mindset that i firmly follow, i believe in conflict, people will always battle each other over something they believe in, it's chaotic life is chaotic, that's why me and you are who we are and i cherish that. it's nature.
>>706508985
absolutely haram
>>706513352
holy shit
how is this still up?
>>706513657
you asked how it was backwards...so i answered. derp. older milf still got more under her belt than a 25yo...
>>706513769
Perhaps I was just a terrible student
>>706513542
>Ok, the kid doesn't have DECADES OF EXPERIENCE that a milf does.
That's such a retarded assumption on your part that I am going to stop writing to you, right in
>>706513724
Damascus Glass sounds nice to say.
>>706513369
You're proving my point further. Go shove those sheltering laws up your blind ass. Do you not understand the concept of reasoning? Some things don't require an explanation, far worse and far weirder things happen with far less explanation.
>>706513352
mods.
>>706513789
>accepts that life is chaotic
>but doing photos of kids is morally wrong
>there are also other things that are morally wrong
Please, at least try.
>>706501120
In what way is any of this any different than soccer moms, sports moms, model moms who push their kids to the brink of insanity every single day. Using their children as a pathetic attempt to somehow capture a fame that they never had? How the fuck is this any different? Because they were scantily clad? Nude even? Shit like this happens to kids on a psychological level by abusive parents every single day. Parents will forego food, shelter, live out of their fucking cars to propel their child into fame and riches in order to satiate some sick desire for wealth and notoriety but your dumbass gets offended by nudity. Seriously go fucking kill yourself and do the world a favor. The problem isn't pedofiles you dumb fuck, the problem is poverty level cu ts spreading their legs in hopes of spawning the next Faith Hill or Miley Cyrus and exploiting the fuck out of them until they're physically and emotionally fucked beyond the point of no return.
>>706513879
Tl:dr? I'm not giving you an explanation because my position's truth is self-evident. Into the gas chambers with ye.
>>706513854
are you saying a 12 yo can have decades worth of experience?
or are you saying a 50 milf cougar cannot have decades of experience?
what are you arguing here?
calling me retarded, yet you can't understand simple facts and math.
uberkek
>>706513352
MODSMODSMODS
>>706513837
That's not backwards, you dumb fuck. 40 is greater than 25. It was when you were learning how to put little alligators facing the bigger number in the forth grade, and it's still true.
>>706514057
And again, stopping right in
>>706513352
site?
>>706504985
>clearly wrong morally
morality is subjective
im my subjective opinion child porn is awful shit
>but also a massive violation of international law
whats law got to do with morality?
>>706506875
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1y0bQzvl0Hs
>>706513841
Probably. Wikipedia usually is at least somewhat accurate, even if people debate it. The truth is probably somewhere between.
>>706505838
>I don't have a mom. I have a transitioned dad and a bio dad though
That's fucked, how does that make you feel anon?
>>706513991
do you not understand what i'm trying to say???
I WILL BELIEVE IN MY BELIEFS, OTHER WILL BELIEVE IN THEIR BELIEFS FUCKING PERIOD.
>>706514194
stopping right in?
Wtf does that even mean?
>>706511891
you call it a fetish when its a sexual preference. there is a huge difference
>>706514254
bump
>>706514267
>im my subjective opinion child porn is awful shit
>subjective opinion
>subjective
>>706514018
You have a small mind. If you can't understand the scope of reasoning in which I am trying to convey to you then I will just stop trying. You are looking for water in a desert.
>>706514254
MOOOOODS
>>706514148
gtfo, you need to reread the thread before you post faggot.
>>706514317
>I WILL BELIEVE IN MY BELIEFS, OTHER WILL BELIEVE IN THEIR BELIEFS FUCKING PERIOD.
That shit's in the Quran, ironically enough
>>706503281
>i live a life of trying to see reason and truth behind certain things
Yes anon...and thats why its so obvious that you DO live in blissful ignorence and AREN'T aware of real life yet
>>706514332
didn't know pedo was a sexual reference, ok noted.
>>706514317
And my beliefs are that there are no valid beliefs, and science proves me quite right. Now what you gonna do, except for repeating time and again that your beliefs are right when they absolutely do not differ from all the other beliefs people had throughout history?
The only RATIONAL belief is that pretty much everything is questionable at least. Only about that you CAN be sure. Anything else you CAN'T.
>>706513542
>DECADES OF EXPERIENCE
doesn't mean its good experience
i have a decade of experience with cooking but that doesn't mean i'm good at it
>>706514403
Tl:dr? I am correct and any deficiency of the arguments in its favor are less a product of my dumbass being a dumbass as they are the result of your small mind which I have described with a very trite and heavy handed cliche.
I got a question.
if pedos and underage sex is so bad and taboo.
why are porn companies allowed to simulate it?
why are ads allowed to also?
>>706514491
hmm, never read it. just saying, the world and it's people will always be in conflict and theirs nothing wrong with that, just like how i have my views but i believe most leading religions are bullshit.
>>706501120
Sometimes a nigga just gotta jack off mane
>>706514823
Money. And that's where moralfags lose it.
Moralfags don't live in realityland.
>>706501120
Nothing bad happened really. They were not "abused" the kids made money getting naked lol. Nobody was ever charged because the parents and the kids didn't want to press charges. And look up the interviews with "dasha" she said it was a good time and hasn't effected her in any way. She has a husband and kids now. Enjoys life. Deal with it.
>>706506971
>are you saying it's possible to be a pedo and not be a bad person? because you're wrong.
are you saying it's possible to be a fag and not be a bad person? because you're wrong.
spot the difference
>>706514796
true that, but milf has enough time to get better.
A kid would be just awful until trained.
unless kids are practicing more than now, than when I was growing up because of the internet...
oh shit.
now i just may see the point.
oh shit.
But.
would a milf still be able to
she could get more dick..
dammit.
>>706513352
Help a faggot out. Website please
>>706512522
This is true.
>>706507893
>international law.
>>706514823
They aren't. Hence why no one in porn ever states their supposed minor age. Just because they imply it doesn't mean they "simulate" it. I have a hard time believing you're over the age of 18 if you need others to walk you through things like this, Cletus.
>>706502025
I'm saving 55% of my paychecks atm for this exact reason. One day I will buy my own
>>706514813
TL'DR: You asked what they would have gained. And I told you. You precede to inform me that the act was illegal under UK LAW. I clarify that you're a pedant jackass for even trying to rationalize ILLEGAL CP, even if it is only non-sexual nudes. You become russled.
>>706514715
good science is nature, nature is queen.
i trust in a supernatural within nature although, a hidden meaning behind all this science.
>The only RATIONAL belief is that pretty much everything is questionable at least
correct.
>that your beliefs are right
did i say i was ever right?
>>706515159
sorry. If you don't know the website you are probably an underaged newfag, and you're too young for these.
P.S. I cant believe it's still up
>>706511250
>Real unedited photo
>>706515421
>You become russled
Nigger arguing above his pay grade detected.
>>706514444
Okay, I read the whole thread again. 40 is still greater than 25.
>>706515475
I'm only used to these being for sites without mothers, and it's definitely not that
>>706515473
>i trust in a supernatural within nature although
Despite there being no real evidence? Just from a gut feeling? Nigger, please.
>did i say i was ever right?
You do by automatically having such beliefs and defending them.
>>706515511
FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKER I WON'T STOP UNTIL I END EVERY ONE OF YOUR PEDO LIVES DO YOU FUCKING HEAR ME?????! NEXT TIME THERE'S A FULL MOON YOU BETTER WATCH YOUR BACK CUZ YOU ARE FUCKING WITH THE WOLFPACK AND WE TAKE NO PRISONERS!!
>>706515475
Not underage just havent been on in a long ass time. Not sure what you guys are using these days
>>706515727
>wolf pack
fuck yeah
>>706513211
When did they outlaw fucking ccats?
It seems like most people get that American culture is pretty sterile and we draw lines in strange places. While I don't personally believe that this sort of thing should be legal (because it fosters an unrealistic attraction to underage females) I don't think it should be frowned upon to this extent. I remember when people posted that sort of thing on /b/. The girls in question were not doing many explicit things. Just kind of being kids.
We really should divert our attention to the bigger issues in life. Children in Asian countries are actually being harmed. We've got people who take trips to veitnam and other low tier Asian countries to fuck kids. A lot of human trafficking going on in our own country. Majorly devastating socioeconomic problems in places like Chicago and Detroit. Ukraine itself obviously has bigger issues. We really need to get that shit together first.
>>706501120
Sadly morality is only for those who learned it. There is no inherent morality in our species. Morality and thus justice is simply an invention of necessity to forge a civilization.
>>706515770
it's vola file and there's nothing worth seeing in the shared link
rest easy newfag
>>706515770
>>706515681
i dunno man, my moral compass is telling me not to share such material, but instead to fap to these myself.
>>706515969
Thanks oldfag. Youre alright
>>706504985
>international law
Wait, what country owns the universe again?
Your post embarrasses me as a fellow American.
>>706516083
>Wait, what country owns the universe again?
America
>>706515955
You need to go back to high school and return Nietzsche to the library, you fucking slob.
>>706514823
My only problem with the whole CP thing is that often times the child is the one who end up without having a saying on it. Coercing them into agreeing to give you a blowjob isn't the same thing as they, themselves, making a conscious decision about giving someone else a blowjob, and that's something that bothers me a lot in this debate, but both sides seem oblivious to even take into account what the kid actually might want.
If there's no harm being inflicted, and the child feels completely OK with it, I really fail to see what is the big deal about it, other than some crazy feminist, and otherwise unfuckable retards, who believe sex is somehow sacred and should be seen as something far more important than it really is.
This topic far often derails into personal attacks, outlandish accusations, and outright leftist-preaching, far more than it should. If a child is having sex with a stranger adult, at the age of 12, how come bad parenting never comes into question? Knowing what I know about sexuality, I really, really, doubt a 12 years old would silently comply to have sex with a stranger if they didn't know EXACTLY what they were doing. Kids are not as "pure and innocent" as feminists would want you to believe, at all.
>>706515727
Hi Nash, Hall, Bischoff, Sting
having fun with retirement?
>>706516083
You fags just opened yourself to being sue by whatever shitstate is passing by right now. You retards even rejected Obama's veto.
Republics don't work, and democracies don't work in large scales.
>>706515946
>i say something more important
>gets ignored
TLDR: fuck children after work
>>706515705
nonononon you don't get it i never defended my beliefs to say i'm right that would go against my whole thing i said about conflict.
>Just from a gut feeling?
no, it's beyond that, it's an entire experience that starts from childhood only someone else who experienced could understand, sorry it doesn't make sense but it's defiantly not just a simple thing as "i feel like there's a god and meaning in life"
i thought Masha Babko or whatever her name is was hot when i was 13, if i saw her again i probably still would
>>706515475
A lot of people who are only recently coming back to the site won't actually know about that shithole.
>I can't believe it's still up
I can. There isn't shit there but the same teenfags that always show up. Get off my lawn.
>>706516244
>You fags
Non-American detected. Post discarded sue to irrelevance. Go post on YOUR image board, subhuman. ;)
>>706516195
FUCK U NWO
>>706504985
china sure doesn't respect international law
>>706516154
lol shut up queer
>>706516154
Kill yourself
>>706516297
>nonononon you don't get it i never defended my beliefs
So let me get this straight:
>you have beliefs
>but you say they might be wrong
So why do you have that belief again?
>it doesn't make sense
The only thing that made sense so far.
>>706516456
They were the original wolfpack, add hogan and you get NWO.
Take away bishoff and hogan you get redblack wolfpac.
do you even?
>>706516244
>democracies don't work in large scales
i agree with your post, have a meme friendo.
>>706516415
Doesn't matter what you discarded. Because others are now free to discard your shit as well.
Feels good, man.
>>706516595
>bothering to argue with someone who types like a nigger
>>706516496
>>706516563
learned about sex in highschool
>>706516639
Fuck u Scott Steiner
