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Why don't you own an AR-15 for self-defense, and to protect your family, home and country?

Pic related.
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I've got lots.

Next question?
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>>703147878
i do.

Sage
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>>703147878
Because I own an Armalite AR10, wif muh trijicon 3.5 ACOG
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Suck it
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From someone who lives in AU, I think that a automatic rifle like that isn't neccessary for self-defence unless you plan on having a war with your neighbours... I'd rather use a handgun for self defence and leave the high powered rifles for hunting.
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>>703148222
Shit red dot but still Acurate
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>>703147878
I choose not to live near niggers instead.
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Because i own a SCAR?
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>>703147878
Because I have a Mosin, we have been over this.
>inb4 garbage rod
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>>703148490
So basically you're an adult?
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>>703148222
Mall ninja crap.
Well at least you own a gun.
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Because I have rigged my home, family, and country with a dead-man's switch and wired them to explode.

Obviously.
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>>703148327
It's not a matter of planning on going to war with your neighbors. It's a matter of being prepared for the low risk/ high consequence possibilities of defeat at the hands of foreign invasion, and the formation of a tyrannical government 5-70yrs down the road.

>Do I think these things will happen?
Probably not.
>Do I want to be prepared if they do?
Yes.
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>>703148327
Shit bait. Go back to sucking abbo cock.
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>>703148584
Yeah, unfortunately
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harm noone ,live well
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>>703147878
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>>703147878
Because ARs are garbage, and 5.56 is a shitty round for combat.
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>>703147878
Because the niggers can have my whore wife for all I care.
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>>703147878
Cash, no family, personal preference, and that's what they pay the military for.

I live in a small apartment, so a shotgun would be my first choice.
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>>703148870
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>>703148797
Unfortunately? You get a fucking SCAR. I'd say worth it.
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>>703148917
Everyone else already does, am I right or am I right? Right? Right?
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>>703147878
Checking in
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>>703147878

Because I prefer my mossy for home defense
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>>703148222
Wtf do you need 75 Rds for mate? Is your aim shite?
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>>703148870
5.56 is an excellent round for combat if you have good shot placement. It's the same as the 9mm vs .45 acp argument.
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>>703149211
The SKS is a pain in the ass to reload.
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>>703149018
It totally is.
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>>703149211
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>>703147878
because AR-15s are cliche and gay and make a pogo stick like sound if you are too stupid to grease not oil your buffer tube.

Let me guess, you drive a truck, wear baseball caps, and have a beard too?

Too bad you're probably not worth a shit with it/own 3 boxes of ammo and have 1 extra magazine pleb.

AK/FAL/G3/AR180 masterrace
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they're overpriced and they jam. I dont use .22s

Real men use .45-70

go back to cawa-dooby
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>>703149266
A fucking air rifle is great for combat if you can hit them in the eye every time. That can be said about pretty much any round. If you're aiming center mass you're going to want something with a lot more stopping power. I have a 30.06 since with the right round it will go through a plate, and I keep a 12 gauge shot gun at the ready for basic home defense.
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>>703149717
>implying you have a .45-70 anything
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ITT mall ninjas trying to defend thousands of dollars of closet-fedora
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Because I don't want to kill an intruder before he kills me.
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Cuz i luv 2 kill
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>>703149266
The whole thing of it is, you're not always going to get great shot placement. Especially if you're going against people that have actual training, and know how to correctly use suppressive fire, and bound from cover to cover.
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>>703148497
Well dude... Your probably gonna kill like 3 extra people with that thing.

Fucking rifle fires rounds mean to pin Chechens down in a brick building... It'll to through aluminum/plastic siding and dry wall like mother fucker.
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>>703150062
So you basically want to be killed.
Why do you lock your doors again?
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>>703148700
LOL, what does it matter if there is some type of hostile take over of a new government. The people threatening you will have well equiped arsenal ready to take you out. You'll maybe live a few minutes to couple hours more than your neighbor Mr.Pacifist Pete who doesn't know how to load a 9 mm
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>>703149782
Well we are talking about heart, lungs and head as your main target. If you eliminate all factors like weight, cost, scarceness/abundance, then yes i would go with a 7.62x39 or 7.62x 51 and bigger. It is obviously more effective but that doesn't mean 5.56 is ineffective.
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Because I own a VZ-58 which has the reliability of an AK with better accuracy. Plus I can stockpile 7.62x39mm for less.

Also I don't like my guns being made out of plastic and I'm not playing into the AR fanboy club.
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>>703147878
I don't own one b/cause you haven't sold yours to me yet, name your price..
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Because ARs are expensive and I work a nigger wage job
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>>703147878
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>>703150218
Well thats why you should get trained until you think you've had enough training then train more.
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>>703148327
I think you're right. An AR15 would be highly impractical in Australia, due to weapon and ammo restrictions. A handgun or hunting rifle would be a lot easier to maintain and continue use over a longer period of time

Tldr; Aussies use knives
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Because I live in an apartment and already own a 12-gauge and M1911.
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>>703150252
i want to protect my neighbors too.
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>>703147878
Because I bought an AK instead. Everyone has an AR.
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>>703150863
By removing anything within a mile of your mosins muzzle. Bra Fucking Vo.
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>>703150518
5.56 is great for room clearing as a team, I will say that, but for me operating in that kind of environment alone I'll take a shot gun any day. It's not like I can plop down on a knee, yell malfunction, and hope the 3 man picks up my sector while I correct the frequent malfunctions you get with an AR if I'm solo.
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>>703147878
>no need to defend myself in my well-policed, well-educated place of residence. it's literally a whiteopia of PhD-holding executives, with no poor minorities or white trash to go all columbine

>see above re: protecting family. my wife and I only need protection from getting our bumpers dinged by land rovers. that's not a humble brag, either. no one is threatening our wellbeing here.

>home: see above
>country: thx all branches of Military, keep up the good work gg

>not even anti-gun here. just, nothing in my sphere of experience requires bullet-shooting devices. it's irrelevant.
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>>703147979

How did you get into my gun safe?
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Cuz i own a famas non bullpup rifles are for ppl with severe autism
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>>703151193
I have a bayonet too,for close quarters. My theory is if I'm getting attacked from whatever direction then fuck that direction in particular.
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>>703147979
Nice candleholder
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>>703151256

How does it feel knowing that if your opinion changes, you won't be alive to post it?
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>>703150711
Doesn't always come down to training. You can't assume you're the best out there, so you just have to always keep yourself at a tactical advantage. If I where to go up against a CAG operator 1 on 1 I'd likely get my ass reamed, but if I've taken the time to keep myself at a tactical advantage by doing things like having ieds, escape routes, and other contingencies always planned out, and in place, I stand a pretty good chance.
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>>703148706
>Claims someone is baiting
>Is baiting hard himself.
Pls return to doing your homework little boy.
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>>703150833
In all honesty they forgot why we invented guns. Knifewounds are Fucking brutal. Its much more civil to shoot each other.

Guns bans just cause the amount of blade and blunt assault to increase.

Its always about the kinda people who love in the location. D.C. , Chicago and Detroit have stiff gun laws but are the majority of America's crime holes.

I'm alright with the occasion dumbass going in a spree of it means I can keep my rights. Do I condone it. Hell no! But am I gonna give up my cake just because they want everyone to not have it so a couple bad eggs don't get it? The answr is no.
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Because i live in southern Canada.
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>>703150693
if you build it its not as expensive as you think
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I have an AR-10. Yes ammo is expensive.
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>>703151236
Well i haven't seen too many good AR's malfunction, and im not saying i personally would use an AR15. Thats also why you should carry a sidearm, im sure you know that already.
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>>703147878

Because my cabinet is full.
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>>703148700
Can see what you mean, and with the shit thats happening over in US, I can't blame some for owning a rifle. Guess it's just different for us here in AU as not as many people run around with firearms.
>>703150833
Yeah, I'm looking into getting a handgun just so I have something for in a time of need, but with Australia's strict laws on securing weapons, it almost makes it impossible to have a firearm at ready access. For now, I'll continue to use a breaker bar.
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>>703152031
whats your average price per?
whats your non steel kosher price per?
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>>703151236
look at this fedora-wielding airsofter lol
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>>703152064
357 here. Yes I know I'm old school, but hey, shooters preference.
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>>703151962
fuck off bobandy
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>>703152248
Look at this little kid on the internet here.
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>>703152258
.357 is just so fun to shoot
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>>703152361
you put a mirror next to your moniter?
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>>703151830
None of that is relevant to shot placement. I'm saying in a gun fight, as long as you can hit center mass (more importantly vitals) then the 5.56 is an ok round. You are getting into some very circumstantial and wild scenarios.
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>>703147878
Because I don't live in a shitty country like United States, and don't need a weapon to repel all the sand niggers you love most.
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Sig 516 here
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ITT: Obese trailer trash rednecks
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>>703152320
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>>703152258
I want one, my current ''Combat'' sidearm in an FNX .45
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>>703152490
Nah I can just tell all you've hung out with was little kids.
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>2016
>living in shithole country
>needing a fully automatic machine gun for self defense

nice try m8
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>>703152709
I looked at the FNX when I wanted a .45 recently, super nice gun. I'm not sure why the FNX and FNS are not more popular, they certainly deserve to be.
I ended up going the traditional route. It was this or an HK45
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>>703152014
I'm also a frogposter that lives with their "why do you need an assault rifle" parents, If gun parts start showing up in the mail I'll have to deal with that shit.
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>>703152844
is that even english?
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>>703149502
I hope that was from a 1,000 yards
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>>703152970
oh yeah that's an issue.
in some states they've passed some bullshit where if your roomates or parents dont agree with the fun they'll take it away.
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>>703147995
Rule 7
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>>703152979
I don't know, are you old enough to fully speak English yet?
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>>703151941
Those mass shootings are staged. The same crisis actors are alwaya at them, no one ever witnesses the shooter (i heard loud noises and ran i didnt know what was going on at all) some guy is always there with an american flag saving everyone but never covered in blood, they propose a gun ban within moments as if the bill was ready before hand. Gays muslims and kids are always involved. Lack of police, fire and medical on scene and their activity is very casual and non helping.

"Do you want me to just read from the card -haha smiles-"
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>>703147878
I own a few.
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>>703147878
Because I have a real gun, not a toy made of plastic
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>>703153052
25 meters

lrn2read
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>>703153138
does pretending to be a little mall ninja get ur jimmies going?
>m-muh operators m-muh close combat
you sound like /k/ you fucking autist
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>>703152893
Perspective hu? get some you fuckwick.
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>>703151564

that evokes literally no feelings from me. the secret? i don't live in an unnecessary state of fear.
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>>703153419
This is getting funnier, and funnier.
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>>703152926
I wanted a 1911 but my fingers couldn't reach the slide release. It's a great gun, it'll run any ammo and holds 15+1 of .45.
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>>703152600
sweet dubs
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>>703153579
just like everyone's opinion of your life
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>>703153610
I have average sized hands and I still struggle a little to reach it (and the mag release is a bit of a stretch too), but it doesn't bother me much. I instinctively rotate the gun in my hand anyways, and it doesn't noticeably slow me down
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>>703153773
Keep going little kiddy.
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>>703153553
No smoke detectors or fire extinguisher either?
Right?
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>>703148923

A shotgun is far more cumbersome to carry and operate than an AR-15 bro.
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>>703153773
Don't worry, your balls will drop one day.
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I don't like anything from the AR family.

I'm with SCAR man here
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>>703147878
Because I have an xds(45) fir self/home defence, and I'm saving up for a springfield m1a1.
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>>703153052
Not me, but some other poor faggot who can't zero
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>>703153823
>>703153998
>being so mad you reply twice
kek
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>>703154070
Nah just wanted to see if you where still there.
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>>703154130
im here 4 u bby
talk about arm chair general tactics more
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>>703153097
I live in freedomsburg TX so I doubt such laws exist here, But mommy dearest is a fudd who'se uncomfortable with the fact that I have a handgun that's made out of Tupperware and my father thinks people shouldn't own "military grade guns", He also thinks fuddyfive is the objectively best caliber and doesn't exercise trigger discipline with loaded firearms, Funny that the guy who will muzzle sweep you with a loaded piece is telling other people they don't "need" certain guns.
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>>703154199
Well you can tell me yours. ;)
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>>703154216

A-are you a dog?
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>>703154216
kek..one pump..one kill
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Let me check...
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>>703154298
MCWP 3-11.X
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>>703154216
Saw some poor bastard flag the range NCOIC once...he never did it again...
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>>703149266
>>703148870
70 is just a shitty shot cause he's a pussy
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>>703154516
Knew there was a reason you sounded so stupid.
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>>703154516
Hope you enjoyed the crayons you had for dinner.
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>>703154411
Maybe.
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>>703153819
Rotate it how?
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>>703155295
I break my grip and quickly turn the gun to the left in my hand, thumb can then reach all the controls
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>>703154899
I'm 66. I mean in a fight getting a good shot in is difficult, about 80% Of rounds fired by FBI agents hit their intended target (of course that's with handguns)
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>>703155533
Ah, yeah I couldn't even operate it with one hand (which was part of my criteria)
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Because I own a Steyr Aug and don't need another 5.56. Also, a Larue OBR 7.62, Benelli M4, and a bunch of other shit.
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>>703155258
of course the first thing you bring up is chow you fat faggot
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>>703155920
Are you saying crayons are healthy? I mean I can understand you loving them I guess with the mild autism, and all, but healthy?
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>>703150696
Is that a suppressor wrapped in electrical tape? Shit would burn off on my Gemtech suppressor under heavy fire.
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>>703155834
Yeah it works fine for me. I can't decide whether I will switch the safety to an ambi one though: as is I can't really manipulate the safety shooting left handed, but the right-side safety feels a bit weird under my hand. Maybe I'd just get used to it, I dunno.
Half the appeal to me of getting a 1911 though was just that: can change basically anything and personalize it in every possible way
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>>703156342
Well my FNX has ambi everything (except takedown) and I really like it, it's the best for self defense, in case I lose my right hand ability or I need to go around a left side corner etc. I like the 1911 because it's just attractive.
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>>703156743
I have an FN Five-seven and my wife has an FNX-40 for carry. FNX is completely ambi, Five-seven can swap out to left handed in a few minutes. I like their shit.
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>>703157203
I work with the son of the head gunsmith or floor manager at their Columbia plant, he's the reason I got turned onto their stuff. I desperately want a SCAR or PS90 too.
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>>703155599
Nice dubs, but I've had my best shots down a AR and a 10/22 so my guess is that you're shooting your ARs like hunting rifles or submachine guns
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>>703152551
>shitty country
>US
Gr8 b8 m8 8/8
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>>703155599
Also I'm pretty sure FBI use 9mm or 10mm
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>>703158511
You're in denial if you don't think the US has some serious issues.
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>>703158652
FBI used to use 9mm, and very briefly 10mm. But they've used .40 for a long-ass time now. Hell it was made for them specifically
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>>703158343
Well 10/22 is easy, I shoot it like a carbine, I don't exactly get what you mean by like a submachine gun.
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>>703147878
Because I am poor and live in a cuck state.
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>>703148069
>Rip your neighbors should you need to defend yourself in your home
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>>703158936
parts kit and bullet button
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>>703158652
Yeah, my point was in a fight, in the high adrenaline, fast paced situation a lot of shots will miss, I just used the FBI because they're well trained and still miss often, I did note they use handguns vs rifles but my point still stands.
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>>703149717
Sorry, I can't take out a loan every time I want to go to the range.
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>>703158846
It does but you are approaching this one sided, the alternatives are worse, European countries have a pussy government that won't stand up for their people, Russia is all over the place, Middle East and Africa people only want to kill each other, China is communist out the ass, first world Asian countries have a plethora of issues facing corruption and crime management, third world ones have little to no standing and are surviving on the grace of the rest of the world, south Americas' governments don't care, Canada won't act on anything cause they are too PC
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>>703158879
Have you shot a uzi or mp5? You hold it in a shortish grip, in between offhand and hunting rifle
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>>703159142
The round itself isn't the issue, you could be shooting 308 or 556, it doesn't change the heat of battle
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>>703159520
Never shot those, do you mean holding it right above the magazine well?
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>>703159520
>current year
>drastically changing grip between platforms
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>>703159141
MA not Commiefornia, besides I would buy more 12ga and 9mm
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>>703159756
Off hand is pic related, don't know if it's what your referring to
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>>703159701
Yeah, somebody just said that getting shots on target was easy and I was just saying it's not. I think 5.56 is ok as long as you make decent placement.
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>>703148923
>I live in a small apartment, so a shotgun would be my first choice.

Hope you don't have neighbors. Shot will go through drywall like it's paper and potentially strike neighbors, which you will be held accountable for.
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>>703160060
Okay, no, I hold mines by a vertical grip, pinky and ring on the grip, index and middle wrapped around and thumb pointed forward.
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>>703160144
As much as I agree with you, I would like to addendum that shooting someone is not as easy and simple as point and pull, no matter how edges you think you are, a lot goes through someone's mind as they try and pull that trigger
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>>703160360
That's still offhand, offhand refers to where on the gun you put your hand
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>>703147878
because your politicians and lawyers say i'm not allowed to
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go fuck yourself.
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because my country won't allow automatic rifles
feelsbadman
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>>703160584
>>703160584

>bait.jpg

Would have also accepted "my country doesn't allow 30 round clips."
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>>703160423
Yeah, I'm just saying from a scientific standpoint, whether or not you can actually follow through and pull the trigger is a whole different ballgame.
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>>703160981
Duely noted
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because i don't need a large cumbersome automatic weapon to subdue one maybe two intruders. a lightweight semiautomatic handgun is much more useful.
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>>703161673

it's a lightweight semiautomatic carbine, very easy to handle. But yes, a handgun would be better, especially if you don't like going deaf.
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>>703161803
>it's a lightweight semiautomatic carbine, very easy to handle.

lightweight for it's size, and requires two hands to operate. also, if you have kids, you don't leave an ar sitting in the open. a handgun can fit in a bedroom dresser door with a trigger lock.
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