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Why don't you defend your home, family, and country with an AR-15 /b/?
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>>703098167
remington 870
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>>703098167
The AR-15 is chambered for 5.56mm. That is not a killing caliber.

In other words, the AR-15 is for sissies.

If you want a manly assault rifle, you need to move up to .30.

I'm not a sissy, that's why, I don't have an AR-15.
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Because I don't need to. I'm not in some war torn country like Syria or retarded country like the US.
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>>703099472
Fuck off eurocuck
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>>703098167
>m249
>or you are a faggot
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>>703099472
So what will you do when things inevitably change and you suddenly and drastically need to protect yourself?
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>>703098167
Because I'm not a pussy that needs a gun to defend my family.
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>>703100316
So what are u gonna do when someone with a gun threatens your family?
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>>703098167
because I can injure and kill with my bare hands, mr. magoo.
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Because that is firmly locked in my cabinet with my other hunting equipment.
My 1911 is in my dresser drawer, it is one twirl of the lock away
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>>703100636
Not be a pussy bro!
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>>703100636
Simple.

*unsheathes katana*
*teleports behind you*

nothing personnel kid
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>>703101119
/thread
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>>703098167
Because I have a 99.99999% of not being killed by another person and will probably die of natural causes or a meteor and I'd rather chop my dick off before associating with gun owners
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>>703099093
>That is not a killing caliber.
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>>703098167
because I live in a shit country that was communist not long ago..You can only own non lethal guns...I wish I had the right to defend myself against burglars and possible state tyranny
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>>703102228
.556 were made to wound not kill so enemies would have to spend more resources transporting/trying to heal injured soilders
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>>703099093
Or be me and have an ar10 and ar15
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>>703099093
> wut
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>>703099973
kek
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>>703102359
You're literally shitposting about things you haven't a clue about, mate
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>>703102228

Technically, it was designed more to maim enough to require immediate attention, effectively taking not only you, but the guy dragging you away, out of combat, and keeping the medic preoccupied. If you were just shot and killed instantly, the guy dragging you and the medic would have a net positive offensive capability compared to the scenario with you bleeding out.
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>>703099973
Hide
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>>703098167
Because a handgun can do perfectly fine, plus rifles are pricey.

Also, fuck defending this country, I hope 90% of this country's people burn to death in a tar pit.
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>>703102757
You're the only one shitposting here bud my post actually contributes something too the thread. I bet you don't even own a gun
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>>703098167
Kalashnikov good.
Armalite shit.
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>>703098167
because i don't live in a 3rd world country, where this would be necessary. get back to >>>/k/ faggot
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>>703098167
>gayR15
>not Glorious Soviet Nugget
>223/556
>not shot-glass made out of metal with bullet inside
y tho
>inb4 auto-loading (auto-jamming)
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>>703098167

Why don't you stop pretending that you buy guns to defend something and admit that you buy guns because you think they're cool?
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>>703099903
>M249 when the M60 = moar stoppin' powah
>not using the M2 Browning that my father used and his father used
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>>703102772
source
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>>703099093
Uhhhh..... our military doesn't seem to have any problems killing Muslims and Commies with 5.56...
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>>703102772
>guy dragging you away
>implying there's a guy dragging niggers away in a human-wave attacks
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>>703098167
Because I use this instead..My AR is for ranged targets.
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>>703104213
They're doing an even better job injuring them and then killing their squad mate when they come to help
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>>703098167
because I live in fucking France where weapons are illegals and you can be put to jail and/or pay reparations if you harm a robber in your house
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>>703098167
because I don't live in a third-world country like the United states where that's necessary.
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>>703102772
But that's wrong. The 5.56x45mm round was chosen as a secondary NATO round in the 1950's because they are small, lightweight, high-velocity and don't recoil like a motherfucker like 7.62x51mm does. it had nothing to do with some retarded shit like "Hurr it takes two out of the fight!". It was all about making the individual soldier more effective by reducing load weight and increasing performance in combat.
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>>703099093
you know how velocity works? Or have received "home education"???
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>>703104213
>Muslims and Commies
Funny how you mentioned the two groups that the US has the hardest time killing, considering that these groups tend to be pretty skinny on average (due to diet) and the .223 will go right through the motherfuckers without enough body to begin tumbling inside (doing what the bullet is supposed to do).
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>>703105168
do you know how wound channels work?
Marksmanship is more important than terminal velocity. Bigger bullet makes it easier to nick important parts.
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>>703105503
You definitely don't know what the hell you're talking about
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>>703098167
ar-15....$$$$$

Used side by side with a box of .00 plus a lot of beer
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>>703105503
depends... With a 5.56 you can pierce trought bones easier than a 7.62x51 because of its velocity, however a 7.62 will more likely destroy the organs. So it depends where you shoot
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>>703099472
I don't know, ask the Illuminati lizard people why Neil Armstrong did 9/11 instead of the moon landing

You'd have to be a degenerate basement dweller to think a mad Max style apocalypse is nigh
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Why don't you buy something higher than a five round magazine you faggot?
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>>703106312
it's clearly a 10rd mag. stay in school, kiddo
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>>703106312
That's a ten round mag bro
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I already defended it with an M-203 grenade launcher.
I leave defense to our powerful military.
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>>703105843
edify me, fudd
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>>703106312
why would you need more than 10 anyways
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>>703102228
>>703102367
>>703102536
>>703104213
>>703105168

>2016
>falling for bait this obvious.

I swear, anytime someone brings up guns, its like every forgets that trolling is even a thing.

Bet you guys fall for the "how can this many bullets fit in the clip" thing.
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>>703106312
10 round magazines look cooler and I don't need 30 round mags anyways
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>>703107047
1. That's not bait
2. If it was bait people would know and wouldn't care because it's a good opportunity to share their opinion
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>>703107158
1. it's bait
2. it's bait
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>>703106312
Yeah go full automatic in you own house and empty tons of 30 round magazines.
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>>703106851
Half the shit you said was subjective and situational. Just get right the fuck on out of here, STALKER
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>>703107060
There's that "need" word again. You don't "need" most of what you own. But you choose to own some things and not others when there is no need either way.

Fuck off with your implied need.
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>>703104489
Nice KSG
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I wonder if it would be possible to make a clip so that it can be attached to both the at 15 and the pistol at the same time and both can be used simultaneously.
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>>703098167

because a mosin 91/30 is all you need

>pic related
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I defend with an AR and an AK
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>>703098167
Oh, look, this cali fag again.
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>>703107893
I need most of the shit I own, and I don't need/want a 30 round mag because I only shoot at the range and if I did have a 30 round mag I wouldn't spend time loading it fully when I could just fill my 10 round mag multiple times.
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Kept saying file too big. 'Murica
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>>703102757
You moron, anon posting >>703102359 is LITERALLY posting the truth. Two of my instructors were former Ranger Bat SNCO's, and both of them concur: It was designed to wound initially to draw out enemy troops to take care of the wounded. But wounding and not killing, you take 2-3 enemy troops out of action; 1 fully out, 1-2 more to help him.
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>>703098167
Because I use an army of Mosin Nagants

>inb4 garbage rod
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>>703098167

Because it requires way too much maintenance and isn't that great inside houses and hallways. I'll stick with my Mossberg 500 and S&W R8.
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>>703108918

see

>>703108211

mosin nagant master race
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>>703108647
Personally, I sort of empathize with your perspective on the matter. I don't necessarily agree with it, but I understand what you mean. I just like 30 rounders because it's less time playing "change the remote batteries" and more pew pew time.

I also spend pretty absurd amounts of money on ammunition for range days, which is cool until I look at my bank account. So... pros and cons? lol
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But I do have one, OP.

BCI Defense SQS-15. Same quality as Barrett's REC-7 and the LWRC, but suffers from less name recognition.
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>>703102228
>not killing power
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>>703098167
I prefer handguns. My latest tool is a s&w .357
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>>703098167
Ar-15 is the iPhone of guns.
That's why.
Prove me wrong.
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>>703098167
What do you guys think of h&k mp5?
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>>703108958
>requires too much maintenance

wat. You don't need to do shit with an AR-15, just lube it every once in a while and you're good.
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>>703108743
Round two. Murica
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>>703109191
Any h&k is overpriced and over rated
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>>703109191
I like the compact design
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>>703109395
Badass gun there
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>>703108888

You're an absolute idiot. Please check your facts, and don't cite bullshit sources.
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>>703108888
So if every motherfucker has a weapon for wounding, who is doing the killing? By that logic, by the end of an engagement, you're spending all of your medical supplies on the huge pile of enemy bodies because the Geneva conventions are a thing. I challenge your quads because I think your fantasy Ranger bat "instructors" are full of shit. Ranger doesn't mean "I know the absolute, undisputed history and truth about this one particular round".
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>>703108994
Yer damn right
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>>703109434
Over priced? No. Are they expensive? Yes but for good reason. My few h&k handguns do a fuck ton better than anything else I've fired
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>>703109165
In your words
>correlation
the usefulness of an iPhone and an AR-15 is nonexistent
Neither can be used as a tool
Okay anon keep thinking that
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>>703098167
those are illegal in australia so i use a 90 pound bow
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>>703109165
While not being the most powerful it does almost anything fairly well and is simple enough to figure out for almost anyone to use. Well shit I guess it is the iphone of guns.
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>>703109532
Thanks I had trouble finding AR-10 magazines though but so far I got 3 of them and I'm wanting to add a bipod for hunting/target shooting purposes
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>obama says shit on stricter gun regulations
>laws don't actually make it through congress
>every fudd and 18 year old in america gets AR-15s
>AR-15 is $900
>accessories cost more than the gun itself
>end up paying $4000 on a gun you only use to go plinking at the range
>brag about your gun being able to kill intruders when the user has no actual military experience

On the other hand:
>buy mosin nagant 91/30 for $50
>surplus ammo is $20 for 250 rounds
>non-surplus is a dime more per round
>bayonet can break concrete
>7.65x54r can be used in literally 99% of russian arms
>the shockwave of the bullet makes the targets of the other shooters fall down at the range
>your mosin has more experience than you've lived to see
>the rifle is fucking indestructible
>no need for accessories

Tell me which is the logical decision.
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>>703099093
primo cod logic
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>>703109165
I can modify the performance and customize my AR for reasonable prices.

>Can your iphone do that
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>>703098167
because i'm not at constant threat of being murdered since i dont live in shitty murica
fuck off to /k faggot
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>>703109434
I agree about the price. I'm not that familiar with guns to say whether it's overrated or not, but it seems good and reliable.

>>703109473
Same, I think so, too.

It's a semi auto rifle(?) that uses the universal 9mm. Versatile, and compact. That's why I like it, I guess.
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>>703109997

see

>>703109889
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>>703107158
>>703107381
This>>703107499
Is bait.
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>>703099093
>not a killing caliber
Hurr durr it has to kill them in one bullet because they regenerate health derp
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>>703099093
>That is not a killing caliber.
>is not a killing caliber.
>killing caliber.
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>>703108733
>Shackleford
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>>703098167

Just finished this build. It was alot easier than I thought it would be.
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>>703109889
Where did you get the mosin nagant for 50?
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>>703110089
>Most drop-in triggers are around $200
>Quality budget scopes/red dot sights are $200-$600
>Pretty much every muzzle device sits around $100
>Pistol grips are generally no more expensive than $20-$30

The fuck kind of accessories are you guys buying? lol
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>>703098167
I defend my home by having enough money to live in a low crime zone

most studies show that having a gun just increases your and your families risk of being shot
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>>703109889
Mosin gives no fucks about where it's been, what's broken, where you're shooting. It just doesn't fucking care and will work. The bayonet is long enough to fuck up people from across the room. It will make your enemies cower at the smell of hot cosmoline.
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>>703110520
They also double as a good javelin. And I say that being an AR guy. I love me some Mosins.
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>>703110477
Studies also show if an intruder comes in and you shoot them they stop
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>>703109889
Also I don't hear anyone saying 7.62x54R is an ineffective caliber.
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>>703110468

the mosin doesn't need accessories.
accessories are for pussies that can't handle a gun right, so they pay to account for their handicap.
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Because real men use shotguns.

It won the west for a reason. It's the only weapon a man ever needs.

12g, 00 buck shot. Keep that fancy magpull nonsense.
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>>703110645
How many times has an intruder come into your home while you were there?

Its better to just move out of the ghetto
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>>703098167
Because I have a shotgun
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>>703110613
They are javelins, spears, boat oars, clubs, shish kabob, firewood. I used mines as a golf club and baseball bat earlier today.
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>>703110757
>When your gun doesn't come with ANY forward iron sights whatsoever
Kay just leme shoot and guess where I might hit
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>>703098167
Because i like my 1911 and mossberg 500?
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>>703110873

real men use mosin nagants
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>>703110876
Once. And i shot him. Haven't had a problem since. And i also conceal carry to. Because niggers are everywhere
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>>703103544
More "stoppin' powah", as you put it, equals less controllability, more muzzle rise, more recoil, etc...

There's a reason the M249 is the most casualty-producing weapon of the modern Infantry unit, anon...
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>>703111045

>implying the mosin-nagant isn't

what kind of lie are you living, anon?
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>>703110757
See
>>703110613

Though, I agree that there's far too many motherfuckers out there that accessorize to make up for bad habits and generally shitty basic fundamentals.
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>>703110971

Well, if the situation calls for a long range marksman type of shot, sure, you win.

But this is real life, and 99% of any situation that would call for you to use that firearm are likely to be within 75 yards and better suited to the shotgun.
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AR is cool guy
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>>703111227
Last I checked a Mosin can hit at 75 yards, also bayonet.
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>>703108211
Fugging love this chart. Thanks, anon!
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>>703111227

http://www.strawpoll.me/11184029
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>>703101025
you throw your fedora at people?
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>>703111158
I love my nugget, but all jokes aside, the 249 is one of the greatest weapons on today's battlefield...
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>>703111666
Woohoo! Satanic trips! And double-trips to boot!!
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>>703111427

Are you arguing that a bolt action (I believe) rifle would win in an engagement with a shotgun, within 75 yards?

Even if you're accurate in the one shot you'd get before I'd be able to get off 2 rounds, I get the benefit of not having to be as accurate. At 75 yards, 00 buck would cover a 3 foot spread.
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Unrelated to the topic but what's everyone's thoughts on a Mod98 8mm German Mauser?
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>>703111833
>I get the benefit of not having to be as accurate
you mean you have the disadvantage of not being able to be accurate
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>>703110967
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>>703111982
I got golden ruled with a 7mm Mauser round. Still haven't bought one but they're only like $150-$200. You like that?
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>>703111982

join the club with the losers that think the gewehr 43 was an acceptable rifle
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>>703098167
Because I can defend it just fine with my Glock 19?

Two to the torso, one in the head


Shot placement is everything.
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>>703112069

kek
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>>703112054

Oh, you. I am a surgeon with my 12g. It's all I shoot. Hell, it's the only firearm I own, sadly.

I didn't say I wouldn't be accurate, I said I didn't HAVE to be AS accurate as your round demands.
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>>703112247
Haven't seen a 7mm before
>>703112285
Heard the gewehr wasn't a great gun but after firing the Mauser I kinda liked it and am considering taking it hunting at some point.
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>>703098167
A muzzle brake on a gas operated 223. Your kidding right....
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>>703112069
It's not designed for penetration, but stopping power. That's like saying a Cummins turbo diesel truck is a shit drag racer. Or that a hammer makes a shitty screwdriver. It's apples and oranges bro.
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>>703112391

how about this:
max effective range is 875+ yards with a mosin.
max effective range is 54 yards with a mossberg 500
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>>703112509
They're really pretty bolt action guns from a similar timeframe. I want one because golden rule. If I got it I would hunt with it providing I got a decent one. They're kinda hit and miss. You can get the sport model like 10" shorter than standard too.
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>>703098167
>pocket sand
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>>703112821
Yeah I've got one sporterized and then I practiced a bit with the pic related
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>>703112711
A diesel truck won the Zmax 4 wide nationals a few years ago.
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>>703098167
Because I am a privileged white male who lives in a large rich white city with practically no violent crime.
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>>703099093
;)
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>>703113104
>large city
>no violent crime.

Wew
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>>703112966
Not surprising, diesel has seen a renaissance in the last few years thanks to high gasoline prices. I work on big bore diesel fleets, but have gotten a lot of passeger car side work.
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>>703112391
im glad youre not my doctor
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>>703113198
It's a win lose situation though because I grew up poor and hate these entitled snobby ass mayonnaise motherfuckers
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>>703098167
You know you're fucked when you live in a place where even the people that don't believe in guns are buying guns to protect themselves from the gun-toting gun nuts. Well done, now we'll all have guns and shoot everyone that looks even slightly "suspicious" to us because we will all be fucking paranoid as fuck in the future.
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>>703109165
Because multiple manufacturers make ar's and parts like droids. Only one manufacturer makes iPhones.
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>>703098167
cuz my cock is regular size, bb
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>>703113416
Funny story. The "gun toting gun nuts" aren't the ones killing everybody. Hell we're not typically killing anyone at all. There's 90 million of us in control of 310 legal guns. If we were a problem, you'd know.
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I would like to, but you see I live in germany and well gun laws are generally shitty in germany. At least you can enjoy beer at the age of 16.
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>>703098167
too poor
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>>703113591
My $200 friend would like to have a word with you. And his identical black twin is only $150
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>>703098167
because I have a barret 50 cal and if a intruder comes in my house I will blow their arm off with one shot, even if it means destroying whatever the fuck is behind the intruder. Literally a fucking one shot anywhere on the body. they either bleed to death, or their head is blasted off. get the fuck out with your sissy AR-15
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>>703114009
Only seven people ITT that gaf about strawpolls. I'll go check it out you shilling faggot.
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>>703113416
Put down the PCP, turn out the lights and go to bed.
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>>703114146
Your mom ran out of pizza rolls
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>>703114441
SHE HAD BETTER FUCKING NOT!!!!!
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>>703114534
There goes your GBPs.
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>>703114763
On a related note I wish I had a ruger GBP 1000.
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>>703113740
Pic and timestamp
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>>703098167
Nice reduced capacity magazine. Enjoy your murdered family when you can't reload quick enough.

Faggit.

Real men who properly defend their families use 40 round pmags.
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>>703098167
Because I have a 223 hunting rifle and a 12ga instead, and in my country that trumps just about anything.
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>>703114854
Yeah, that triple action
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>>703115093
Canadafag?
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>>703115205
Britfag.
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>>703115261
same fucking thing
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>>703115383
Calm down m8, don't want to have a stroke
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>>703113544
^ Most small and insecure guys immediately attack another for their dick size, knowing it's about a 99% probability that no proof to the contrary will be brought forth....

Nice try, cuck anon... Go shill for your zombie queen elsewhere...
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>>703115495
kek
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>>703099472

So Jamal and T'Quon are trying to kick down your front door. What's your plan? Shit your pants? Hope for the best? Good luck.
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>>703115633
Check'd
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gVo3DutfQ8
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>>703101991

why would you care if someone else wants to own a gun? You are the worst kind of person. fuck your shit.
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>>703098167
because i'm statistically more likely to kill myself or have a family member get hurt than i am to stop a home intruder.
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>>703115633
4chin dubs of truths
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>>703098167
because i don't live in somalia.
i could literally defend my home with a jelly bean.
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>>703115859
Retard detected
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>>703115888
>tripes
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I keep a handgun in my dresser drawer. I don't expect that I'll ever be the victim of a home invasion. But in the unlikely chance that it happens, I'd just like to have a gun ya know? Can anyone really hold that against me?
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>>703098167
Because they are ineffective at short range and can kill at a mile. Accidentally. Landing you in prison when you off your next door neighbor's daughter while firing a warning shot. Pansy ass muzzle brake on a rifle with little recoil, what a waste of time... but that will also make it super loud for you, dumbass. The 45? A 1911? Really? You want an unreliable gun that needs to be babied and cared for when your life depends on it? Use a Glock 21 or a Sig 220 and have confidence that it will work come what may. Dump the AR-15 in the safe and get a Mossberg 500 instead, more chance of stopping a home invader and less chance of killing someone in the next street.
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>>703098167
because britfag, no guns apart from low power air rifles.
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>>703113725
You are the worst kind of person. Please put that shitty Hi Point under your chin.
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>>703116043
This, also everyone has one. I dont want what everyone has.
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>>703109889
>>buy mosin nagant 91/30 for $50
>>surplus ammo is $20 for 250 rounds
I. fucking. wish.
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>>703116129
nope many calibers are permitted.
No handguns
No Automatics.
Any 'battle rifle' calibres need to be straight pull.
Currently waiting for my license.
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>>703116129
don't knock that air rifle, it's pretty good at scaring cats.
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>>703099093
You know whats funny i hear this shit all the time. I also hear that M855 is a terrible round. I did 2 tours as a 31B. I hit a guy in the hip with one round out of my rifle and the bullet road his pelvis and went up and exited right beneath his armpit. 5.56 will fuck people up.
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>>703115660
where the fuck do you live? kenya? where i live that shit doesn't happen. there aren't any bands of heavily armed gangsters in pickups marauding bandits like some fucking ghetto fairy tale where i live.

you know what the most aggressive self defense i need is? mosquito repellent.
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>>703116157
I don't have one. I'm just pointing out that being poor is no excuse for not being armed.
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>>703116157
It's not like it'll fire any way anon...
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>>703116246
I would literally buy a moist nugget right this very second of those prices were accurate.
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>>703101991
>being this afraid of an inanimate object
>mfw
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>>703099093
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>>703098167
Because I'm not a fucking coward who's afraid of the world.
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>>703116608
i'd buy an entire crate and a pallet of ammo.
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>>703116403
where do you live?
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>>703100316
Mastered the blade and the blockchain, have we?
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>>703116994
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>>703116808
ur mom's butthole
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>>703098167
its illegal in Connecticut. Since it has a removable magazine, it cant have any "evil" features. AR15s generally have pistol grips, and are pretty retarded without a pistol grip.

Ill stick with an SKS, when I can afford one
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>>703101119
You mean, die like a baby-backed BITCH?

>Thought so...
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>>703102359
This is wrong.

Arma lite designed the rifle around that caliber so that troops could carry more ammunition with less weight.

It had shit to do with maiming enemies, although it is understood that the 5.56 round does more damage and doesn't overpenetrate.
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>>703116785
>right this very second
For me this is impossible right this second. One gun and a 250rds for $70 and I'd still have enough for a fifth of whisky to drink while I shoot it. But then again that's what I get for having kids and other toys plus I just stocked up on 9mm. Gotta start padding that wallet again. Best MN price I've ever seen here(GA) is $260 for 1 and $1000 for an actual non issued case(6 pack) original with deets on each, bayos for each, ammo pouches, and cleaning kits(actual polish issue) for each.
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>>703116403
Fellow ausfag?
Then mozzies are nasty as fuck

Also, why do all the americucks think we don't have have guns? We can/do have them... We just need to apply for a license to get them... So that only the sensible people pass the test to acquire them... Because we aren't stupid.... Like some countries ...
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>>703117068
I though you said there wasn't gangs of marauding ...
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>>703117107
I'm guessing you don't like featureless ARs then? I think they're kinda cute.
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>>703117231

They use yo be 79.99 for a rifle and 69.99 for 440 rd tin before the Russian emabrgo. I work at a fun store in north ga
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>>703117130
The civ market needs M855A1....
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>>703116403

Doesn't matter where you live, people break into homes everywhere. You can pretend it doesn't happen, but if it even happens to you you will be at their mercy. Good luck faggot.
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>>703117247
Can you legally own a semi auto of any type? If so, how difficult is it to go through the process and what are the limitations?

Genuine question. Not shit posting to be an amerifag.
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>>703108733
>helped the intruder subdue the robber
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>>703117432
Son. Of. Bitch. I got into guns too late.
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>>703117446
Careful, he's an edgy faggot
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>>703117247
You can never own the same types of firearms we can. Because of your ban you are limited. Current production military style semi auto rifles are banned in Aus. You can buy bull shit bolt rifles and such but good luck getting your hands on a WPB new polish semiauto AK
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>>703117273
kek. damn, you proved me wrong.
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>>703117636
Trust me. I can still remeber going to gun shows in the mid-late 90s as a teen and seeing like full auto transferable pre86 mac10s for like 500 bucks because people still believed the machine gun ban would be lifted by the next republican president. Even though it was regan who put that shit in place. I have 3 type 56 Chinese AKs that are the best guns ive every owned. Paid not over 300 for each. Damn things got for like 1700 now. Guns are a funny business. The shit noone buys will one day be worth a lot of money.
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>>703110873
Got the mossberg 500a. Great gun.
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>>703117429
No I just dont like that the AR15 is perfect for a pistol grip due to the buffer tube making a good place for the shoulder stock.

I mean that picture you posted really sets off my autism.

Id rather have a 10rd stripper clip fed AR15 with a pistol grip
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>>703117686
Kek. The ban that halted a ten year decline in violent crime thus halting all progress towards a safer Australia.
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Because I own an 8,8cm PaK-43 to kill any Jews coming to take my fucking shit
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>>703118234
Indeed its stupid. Ive never been there but my grandfather use to hunt in Aus and said the hunting and gun culture there was amazing before the ban.
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>>703117446
i could also get hit by lightning, but i'm not going to wear a rubber suit all day.

i know you probably live in some shit hole where you have to fight off pillagers on a daily basis, but the odds of a break in by violent criminals while i'm at home is as likely as getting a meteor in the face.

so arming every insane lunatic in the country wouldn't make me feel safer, it would make me feel the need to do the same, which is the situation you're in. however, if no one have guns, you won't need guns either.
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>>703117836
(Wink)
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>>703118224
Idk man. I feel like if it had to be this autistic piece of shit vs a bolt action(for actual purposes not hunting) is just deal. I mean you can own the proper parts as long as they aren't installed. If shtf you're not gonna be worrying about laws and shit.
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>>703118409
You pansy I have a 12,8cm KwK 44 mounted on an experimental Entwicklungserie-75 turret on the top of my house bitch
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>>703118542
Name one populated country where no one has guns. Just because you ban them dosent mean they magically go away. Shit after the ban in the UK yardies were still blasting away at each other.
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>>703117462
I have my gun license, I own a single barrel 12 gauge and a weatherby vanguard s2 .223

The process to get your license I will admit is a bit of a pain in the ass it takes about 2 months for the application to go through (which isn't a big deal if you aren't in a rush to kill someone) general public can only apply for what they call an "a and b long arms" license which is any single barrel, double barrel shotgun, bolt action, lever action, rifles

If you want semi automatic you have to apply for an " a, b and c long arms license" but to get that it has to be for eithe a business purpose or if you own a farm and need it for pest control

As for hand guns, it is near impossible to get one, you can only acquire one if you are a member of a pistol club and you have to be a member of that club for atleast one year, and compete in competition atleast 10 times a year, using a pistol owned by the club and after that you can buy your own handgun, but to keep that hand gun you have to compete 10 times every year in competition

All firearms no matter what class MUST be kept in an approved gun safe
Police do random checks on all firearms owners homes without warning to check that you a complying

In all honesty it is a good system, as we have near no firearm related murders and have had 0 mass shootings since the laws were brought in
Although sometimes I wish it wasn't as harsh
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>>703117636
>>703117636
same.

I was however able to snag a few garands on the cheap when i first started. one is .308 for 750 and one in .30-06 for 600.
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>>703118666
I'd* just deal
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>>703117686
But.... Why do I NEED a automatic military grade rifle for, if I'm not wanting to kill 30 people within 10 seconds?
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>>703118761
Those 308 garands are my favorite garand. So easy to shoot. Shit does not move at all.
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>>703118888
fuck off eric. your bait isn't covered with enough need.
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>>703118761
Nice. Saving pic for another thread in the future to post and say they're mine
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>>703098167
I prefer 12 gauge riot shotguns and 10-22 with 100 round drum and bump fire stock. It's basically fully auto. The bigger caliber guns are over rated. Everyone cries stopping power. You get hit with a 22 round and you are either going down or you will not b able to aim your gun I took a 22 in the calf and it was so painful I was down. Felt like someone buried a knife dipped in red hot lava in my leg
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>>703118542
Just another tool in the box broham.
Better to have it and not need it ...
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>>703118888
>bait

The BAIT 15 is not fully baitomatic and definitely not military grade bait.
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>>703118888
Sick dub quads. Its not about needs. Its about wants. Just because you are scared by a semi auto rifle dosent me i should have one (not saying you are justbsaying that kost people hate them because they are scared of them). Saying they should be banned because people will use them wrong is like saying you want to ban cars or axes because a drunk might run you over or a man might grab and axe and swing at you. Its stupid.
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sks
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>>703098167
it is objectively more likely that a firearm related accident would occur than a home invasion where I live.

Deal with it, amerilards
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because I use an MPX
>shorter
>wont blow your ears out like a 5.56 would
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>>70311907
Forgot to mention it was on a ricochett
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>>703119340
9mm still sucks indoors with no ear pro.
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>>703119309
With a 35 round box mag
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>>703119075
oh boy i cant wait to see my shit in a random thread.

>>703118922
cmp has some .308 specials for sale every once in a while. right now all they have is service grade m1s and snipers.
http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/m1-garand/
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>>703118666
uhh, if it uses stripper clips it doesnt have to be a bolt action.
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>>703119075

Kek
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How triggered does this make you noguns faggots?
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>>703119340
Where did you get one at? What state?
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>>703119530
Ive got a Fulton Armory one.
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>>703098167
Holy shit I took a nap and this thread blew up while I was sleeping
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>>703098167
Fuckin beowolf.
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>>703119312
eurotard detected
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>>703119551
Yeah but that's where my brain went. I would prefer the closest functionality over how my grip looks.
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>>703119670
naps are fucking awesome.
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>>703118714
>Just because you ban them dosent mean they magically go away
they pretty much do though. sure, they exist, but we've merely had one mass shooting in the last 71 years (all done with legally acquired guns, because illegal ones are nearly impossible to get), while usa has had more than one mass shooting every day for over a year.

trust me, no one is shooting at me. there's not even enough people with knives to warrant any need for worry on my part.
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>>703119281
I do agree with what you saying, but unfortunately as a nation we have to walk a slow as our slowest person, you know?
Here in Australia we can have guns, not fully auto or anything ridiculous just rifles for hunting and competitive use
They use the licensing system to weed out the idiots who will harm someone, they even check medical records for mental health, so anyone diagnosed with depression can't get one, which I suppose is why we have such low gun violence
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>>703115747
I never said I did you fucking retard, can you read? OP asked why I don't own a gun I don't care how many guns you own to make up for your 6 inch dick faggot boy
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>>703116246

well, in SC it is
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>>703119640
do they make those with gi receivers?
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>>703119586
kekkiest kek
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>>703098167

Because guns are for pussies.
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>>703119437
Not as bad as 5.56. Waiting on a supressor for mine as to further decrease death to my eardrums.

>>703119595
Michigan. Got it the week of release. Ive got a couple gen 2 pistols for sale.
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>>703119895
Ah sweet pretty sure I can get one in Texas
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>>703119810
better buy as much as you can then. they won't be 50 freedom credits for long.
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>>703119874
why?
I like gun range time.
Iz fun

Faggot
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>>703119993
If you must get one, get a gen 1. Gen 2's have some cycling issues due to a smaller gas port. Unless you plan on shooting it suppressed with 147gr, it wont be an issue.
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>>703119816
Depends, mine does have a winchester reciever but i own an m1a from them that has a norinco reciever. Apparently they use to use the chinese ones because its milled from solid steel rather than mim'd like springfield armory is. But with garands I think they fiddle with both GI and new production.
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>>703119312
Accidents(like what you're thinking, shooting yourself, kids getting to it, shooting your family) only happen to idiots that don't lock their shit up and don't have situational awareness enough to be able to tell the difference between a door opening normally and being kicked open or opened differently than normal with unusual steps and other noises that are uncommon(I mean be honest. You know what your house sounds like better than you give yourself credit for).

>inb4 locking up guns makes them useless.

I'll take biometric nightstand vaults that take 1 second to open and have a Glock G22 in condition 0 on top of the pile of handguns for $1000 Alex
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>>703120147
Yeah I was thinking about getting an mp5 in 9mm integrated suppressor (in Texas integrated suppressors don't require a special license and require ALOT less paperwork)
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>>703120012

what if the bullets expire?
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>>703120179
interdasting
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>>703119208
actually it's not. you're more likely to shoot yourself if you have a gun, even by accident. and no, being properly trained doesn't remove that risk. it's more dangerous to have a gun in your house than not having one, especially if the likelihood of it ever being necessary is minute.

and then there's the part about actually being proficient with it. you made practice at gun ranges, but the second you suddenly need it in a gun fight (seriously, where the fuck do you live where shit like that happens?) you won't be very professional at all. it's like practicing martial arts, but never having been in a fight, you won't do well.
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>>703120272
They fall under nfa just like any other suppressor. You still have to do a form 4 with the ATF
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>>703120300
>bullets
>expire

don't store them in water.
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>>703120300
40 year old ammo can still shoot. Happened to use old 8mm in my Mauser the other day had like 3 misfires 6 hangfires and the remainder of the 20 box shot fine
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>>703119726
Yeah I'm feeling pretty good
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So this is my 5.56 and the .300 blk i just built
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>>703120343
Best M1A ive ever had. Its got a douglas heavy barrel on it and i hit targets regularly and accurately at 600 yards with it. Never had the chance to take it out further.
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>>703120384
The whole "you stand a greater chance of getting shot" meme is like saying you stand a greater chance of getting hit by a car if you are near a road. Well fucking obviously! But I stand 0% chance of defending myself adequately if I don't have one against someone that does.
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Cause my FAL is superior
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>>703119717
SKS and Mini-14 are still CT legal
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>>703120272
Ive wanted an MP5 for a long time but found the MPX to be superior. Though it all depends on your use...personal defense or range toy?
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>>703120707
This a thousand times this
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>>703119530
Got any more pics I can save in case they ask for more
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>>703098167
Because half of the retards on here live in countries where they can carry firearms and protect their freedoms.

Build that wall Trump 2016
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>>703120707
/thred
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>>703120707
Just live in a country that doesn't allow guns... Then you don't need one because the guy attacking doesn't have one, and dont bring up the whole "people get guns illegally" because here in Australia, an illegal gun costs you about $30,000 and if you have that kind of money, you don't need to be breaking into people's houses
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All you gun loving cunts in here need to watch the Jim jefferies segment on gun control
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>>703120707
So you're gonna spend every waking moment of your life carrying a gun in the almost 0% chance that someone will attack you? Cmon that's just silly
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only other one i have thats under 4mb.

everything else is over the max for forechan and thus kills my chance at becoming a meme
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>>703120707
which again relies on you living is somalia... and i don't. if you live in somalia, fine, i'd get a fucking arsenal myself if i did. however, i don't live in a shit hole, so i don't need it. it's more likely that my neighbor will hit me with his car, than the odds of a pickup full of niggers with ak's will ever come riding into my living room and start shooting.

pic related: shit i will never see in my entire life
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>>703120384
I understand the risks that come with having a weapon. It's a big responsibility that I don't take lightly. I have experience with firearms from an early age and some professional training as well.
I'm comfortable with using and CCing this weapon. (standing next to me at the store check out, you'd never know I had it on me.),

I'm more likely to die in a car accident than a death with my weapon but that thought doesn't keep me from driving.
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>>703105203

Whats our isis kill ratio?

Isis has lost a staggering number of jihadists and has only killed three US troops in return, making the US-to-Isis "kill ratio" 15,000-to-one.

Hardest time killing lol. Just because a war is prolonged for profit reasons and international dick measuring contests, does not mean it has been difficult killing them.
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>>703109664
Sweeet. What hand guns from h&k do you have?
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>>703103181
Libqueer excuse. "My nation is advanced and progressive. When things get bad we just protest until big brother comes out and helps us to our cars with LTLs and tear gas, and theres never ever any violence... ever."
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>>703098167
Because AK-47 is far superior than AR-15.

/thread
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>>703121384
Just crop that shit
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>>703102872
> implying you cant acquire a perfectly good 5.56 platform for $500

The handgun is so you can fight your way to your rifle friend. Don't go looking for shit with just a handgun.
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>>703121287
whats wrong with being prepared?

If you want to walk around with your head up your ass thinking no one will ever ever EVER mean you harm, then far be it from me or any other gun toting faggot to force you to do so. I hope i never have to use my guns in defense of my life but I will not even begin to think that shit will never happen to me or my family.

Its your choice to not carry as much as it is for us to choose to carry.
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>>703120207
at least half of americans are idiots
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>>703121476
FUCKING KEK!
you are a top bloke!
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>>703121812
>asking me to work
nigga i got other threads to shit post and 2d qts to fap to.
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>>703122003
you're more likely to die in a car accident than get shot. Stop using cars. Americans are afraid of everything
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>>703122038
Diversity enriched Americans

ftfy
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>>703122003
This. And I'm the guy he was replying to. To think statistically it'll never happen is fine. Statistically Elizabeth Smart would've never been kidnapped. But she was. Shit like this happens every day to people that it statistically should never happen to. A lot of the time they are armed and defend themselves without even a shot fired. Sometimes they aren't.
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>>703122203
Amerilard here. Not afraid of a goddamn thing. hth
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>>703105203
All rounds are not "designed" to "tumble" around in people's internals, you fucking retard. I'm pretty sure no round is. AP rounds are the closest thing to your stupid statement, and they just fragment on impact. Whoever told you bullets are supposed to ricochet inside the human body was probably lying and hoping you'd bring it up in conversation later so you could look stupid.
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>>703122175
It just takes 2 sec... Nvmd dude. Threads almost kill anyway.
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>>703105503
Do you know how much of your center mass is occupied by vital organs. It would be hard not to hit a vital organ even with a 22.
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