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hey /b/ros, so I'm just wondering if there's anyone that is on anti-anxiety meds. picked up a prescription for Effexor last night and 10ish hours after taking first pill (37.5mg) wake up an hour ago and feel pretty fucked up. same feeling as day after taking mdma or something. want to hear about the side effects from real people.
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>>703049230
Are you an idiot? Those shit are useless and will suck your money.
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>>703049373
what? why do you say that? and sorry.. just goin through some rough times atm, and needed something :/
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>>703049373
Don't be mean
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>>703049569
>>703049604
Most of those pills are less effective than placebo with horrible after effect? I'm just trying to save OP.
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>>703049604
thank you. >>703049694
please explain. I worry so much about things and my gf and 8 month old daughter just left me due to me being miserable from anxiety/stress/depression.. I need to fix myself so I can be with my family again. feel like I may just end up offing myself if I can't. :(
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>>703049978
Nah life is easy when you fix those small problems.

First why were you depresses at first? Btw you can't stop talking pills like that. Those shits are stronger than any drugs. Your best bet is to workout and sleep well (your brain fix itself when you sleep, so don't worry too much about it)
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Maybe not a permanent solution, but some people actually DO need SSRIs or SNRIs. The adjustment period is uncomfortable for sure. Give it a few weeks and you will probably be way above baseline with minor side effects. Don't worry OP, tapering off isn't a big deal either. It feels like you feel now.

Hope you get good results bro
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Definitely start working out though. That'll help A LOT
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>>703049230
hey OP

depressedfag here. this is perfectly normal. the first few days- weeks of taking andidepressants can actually make sympthoms worse; hold on through man- it'll get better quickly. good luck on getting your family back
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Everyone in here is retarded. The pills take a few days to work.
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Chiming in. I had my first panic attack at the end of May. Thought I was having a heart attack. No history of anxiety or anything. Tried seeing a therapist which helped. Had some good weeks and some bad days. Found out too much stuff piled on at once and I shouldn't have been googling my symptoms. I was sick for a while and none of the doctors could tell me what was wrong. Well, after trying therapy some days were getting harder and harder. My doc put me on 20mg of celexa. Took for two days. Felt absolutely horrible. Horrible! Been on 5mg of buspar for about three weeks now. Feel ok. Mostly feel like normal. Have some Ativan for when things get really tough. It's rough. In fairly sure mine stemmed from living out here alone, losing my job, totaling my car, having to readjust my living situation, and worrying about my health nonstop for a moment. Too much happened too quickly.

I'd stay away from the benzos. I take mine only when things are extremely bad. Working out helps too. Fixing what bothers you does as well. Time also helps
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Exercise and proper diet helped me more than anything. I only managed to run a marathon because running was the only thing keeping me sane.

6'5". From 300 lbs to 210.

Start slow.
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>>703050560
Autism? Big pharma is milking you but you are too retarded to do anything.
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>>703050201
thanks man, appreciate the advice. you're saying tho if I workout and sleep well I will not need meds?
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>>703050178
I've been out of work since just after my little girl was born. we were trying to save money for our downpayment for a home and stuff.. I worry a LOT.
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>>703050787
Lol how's having all the answers working out for you? Your mom still cuts your sandwiches just how you like.
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>>703050254
why do you say that? thanks
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>>703051195
Don't just sit around, go outside and run or walk.
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>>703050423
thanks, really appreciate it. they're all that matters to me. I can't even imagine having to raise my daughter 50/50 or less.. I've seen her for 6 hours in the last two weeks. do you know how that feels? :'( I've been home the entire time while my gf's been on maternity leave with them every day. and apparently she just took her first step on the weekend. I can't make it as the broken man I am slowly becoming :(
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Use the meds to get out of the hole and get your ass in the gym. Try coming off in six months if things are feeling better. If you can't function you're probably a lifer but that's really not a big deal. Some of us just have sadbrains
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>>703049230
Hey bro. Taken them myself and they are quite heavy duty, I started on 25mg moving up to 50 then 75 respectively.
If you are concerned, contact the doctor who prescribed them.

I must say I didn't like the way I felt on effexor (kinda numb and empty, almost zombie like) but that is just my experience. Hope you feel better soon
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>>703050560
why are you calling me (OP), or others retarded? can we not have a serious convo here. I worry that I may end my life soon, so please try to show some compassion for the sake of my little girl.
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>>703050618
can we chat outside of here?
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>>703051395
Have forgotten where you are? If you are that dumb your little girl is fucked anyway.
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>>703050650
I'm 6'4 260, or was.. til she left. now I've lost 15lbs in two weeks.
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>>703051184
OP here. thanks haha
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>>703051287
definitely doing a lot of that right now, and in the weeks leading up to her leaving. it's depressing not working and not feeling like you can be the man you want to be for your family :(
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>>703051184
>>703051570
Nope. I'm trying to help you but you dig yourself in your own lies. Fuck off
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Op you will be fine. Don't worry about what you have going on right now and you will be okay. If you keep focused on what you truly want and stick to it you will be better than you thought maybe it's not so fun right now but if you really believe in something it will all be okay for you bro xD


But foreal just chill no matter what we are here for you /b/ros are for life. Some are good some bad but we will always be here
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>>703049978
pills arent the answer dude. go talk to your family.

I struggled for years with anxiety and depression, sounds so simple but just telling people you trust how things are for you is one of the best things
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>>703051334
thank you.
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>>703051637
You are putting too much pressure on yourself.
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>>703051338
shit eh. not sure I want to feel that way.. I ain't THAT fucked up in my opinion. just worried (naturally I would think) about the fact I got no money coming in. appreciate it man
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>>703050560
oh look, that guy no one likes has arrived with bucketfuls of helpful advice
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>>703049230
Yeah, cocaine is the best anti anxiety medication, i can assure you. Get some of that not that nubing shit.
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>>703049230
Just take phenibut -- it works fine and doesn't fuck you up. Or picamillon, except that it was just banned for not being profitable enough to the pharma-jewry. 90% of anxiolytics commonly prescribed are designed more to earn profits than to solve your problems.
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>>703051788
Oh look, that guy no one care is shitposting again.
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>>703051459
wow. that's a super nice thing to say. first off.. of all my years lurking /b/ I've never seen so many nice responses to someone starting a thread like this. but yes, please run me (I can take it right? WHY IN THE HELL COULD I POSSIBLY BE UPSET RIGHT NOW???) and the others offering up advice, down. prick
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>>703051801
>>703049230
Nope weed is the true best. It's less addictive and won permanently fuck your brain
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>>703051655
OP here.. I never made that comment about the sandwiches
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>>703051849
i offered my advice, more than you have done. Regardless, net zero effect is still more positive than being a cunt.
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>>703051668
thank you
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>>703051671
sadly my family, isn't much of one. my folks are pretty damn hard on me and my dad is just about the least compassionate man you will ever meet. siblings are completely out of my life. all 3 of us don't talk. it's fucking brutal. and I honestly don't have a large group of friends
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>>703051874
The truth always hurts the most. I'm sorry about that.
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>>703051700
oh I am well aware of this. if you lived my life at the hand of my mother (physically and emotionally abused me from a young age) you'd understand how I am today. confidence is literally at the lowest possible low you could ever imagine. I don't want to live if I can't be the father and husband I so desperately want to be to them.
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>>703051840
well that's not good. the first one you mentioned.. what about it is good?
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>>703049230
Don't waste your money on meds. It's all in your head, you have to work hard on your mindset. It's cheaper and 1000% more effective.
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>>703051849
OP here. fuck off.
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>>703052130
Well, damn. My only other piece of advice is write to your ex. A letter, or email, doesn't matter. Just a way of communicating the shit that might be too hard/confrontational to say to her face. It takes the emotion out of the equation and gives you time to think about what you want to say, properly.
At the end of the day, you aren't gonna off yourself, because you care about your daughter, and suiciding would be a selfish and cowardly thing to do. Its not an option.
Just remember that when it can't get any worse its only going to get better, /b/ro.
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>>703051980
thank you
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>>703052207
you should just abandon my thread now. I don't appreciate what you're saying at all
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>>703052338
what do you suggest I do? thank you btw
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>>703052207
its not about truth its about you instantly choosing to be a cunt because you think you have to be some kind of edgelord on /b/.

Either that, or you truly are just an utter piece of shit and the world would be better without you.
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>>703052338
Meds help but aren't a cure, and I'm Canadian so I don't pay for my meds
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>>703052423
oh we are talking. I was blocked from texting her the moment she left, but she unblocked me on Sunday and she and I FaceTimed so I could see my little girl. then her and I chatted on there for ~3hrs. but now the last day she's been really upset. asking me to give her space but it is SO HARD not talking to the mother of your child and being with your family. so hard. i just can't imagine the pain I would feel for her to move on and there be another man raising my child.
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>>703052566
>>703052475
Well sorry for being down to earth. This girl is going to have a shitty life. Cya.
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>>703052566
OP here. thank you. this guy does sound like a piece of shit. I agree
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>>703049230
Started Effexor about a year ago, just couple weeks were rough, definitely makes you feel fucked up. That trailed off though and it has really stabilized my moods which were extreme, very depressed sometimes, very happy other times. I would recommend Buspirone with it, that also helps with anxiety and is also supposed to help with Effexor side effects. I purposely started with the lowest Effexor dosage cause pills affect me pretty hard and worked my way up.
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They will suck for the first couple of weeks, but you need to be proactive on them, it's an aid not a magical cure. It gets better mate dont worry. See you GP after a month if you're still feeling the effects
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>>703052695
wow. just wow dude. you are pretty miserable eh? I bet you torture animals and shit. FUCK OFF
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>>703052734
what's your dose? and what effects of Effexor does this other one help with? appreciate the advice man
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>>703052754
thanks
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>>703052655
and thats what you can put in a letter rather than trying to say it to her face. give her space, not doing so is detrimental to your situation. space doesnt mean cut off communication, just dont hassle her. write a letter, get ALL your shit off your chest, exactly like that last part of your reply just now, and then let her know that when shes ready to read it here are all your thoughts
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>>703053104
yes. you're right. she needs time to collect her thoughts I'm sure. I don't even want to admit to how many emails I sent prior to her unblocking me on her cell. but I am definitely pestering her at times in my opinion. it's just so fucking hard not talking to her man. I miss her so much.
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>>703049230
Tell your doctor that you will only take Ativan and Klonopin because Effexor make you "feel bad"
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>>703052754
this. this is kinda what i was trying to say before.... pills cant fix you, a therapist cant fix you, but both can help you fix yourself.

And its you that is the problem, not your gf, its understandable that she can't cope with your depression all the time.

It has to be you anon. I'm a hypocrite or writing this, because im still sitting in my pile of shit ive created for myself (not literally, lol), but I know this is a truth. Only you can fix you.
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to EVERYONE that is reading this thread and replying with advice for me and expressing their support.. I am truly grateful. thank you. I needed you guys today. i didn't know this place could ever be this helpful.
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>>703053302
k what? explain please
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>>703053311
thank you. I know it's my fault. and I hope i have it in me to fix myself
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>>703053221
I know man.... Its easy to be "clingy" or whatever.. I'm the same.. I have issues letting go of people. Focus on the future, what you can do to make yourself a kind of person she might be interested in a relationship again. You can't make her like you again, you have to accept that she may never feel the same way again, but if you focus on getting back to being you, the guy she like in the first place, then you have a chance.

Your daughter, on the other hand, will always love you if you are part of her life. Don't forget that. Just because she isnt always with you doesnt mean she stops loving her dad.
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>>703051457
Sure. Hit me up via email. [email protected]
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>>703053320
man, /b/tards just like to have fun, sometimes break the rules, fap to wierd shit, shitpost, troll, etc, but everyone heres still human
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>>703053423
Benzodiazepines like Ativan and Klonopin may be more useful in treating anxiety and have fewer side effects than other anxiolytics. There is a potential for abuse with these medications.
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>>703052856
Im taking 75mg on the Effexor but i think i started with even less than that. Im real susceptible to pills and caffeine so i just wanted to start chill. The buspirone, according to my doc, is supposed to help with anxiety, and counter effexor sideeffects like weight gain, sexual side effexts etc. The one side effect that ive really noticed is sexual side effects with effexor. its really strange, my dick definitely still works, but the thought of doing anything sexual with anyone kind of turns me off, its really strange man and ive never experienced anything like it in my life. i have an awesome gf that understands but even before her, while i was taking it, i was dating a couple girls, and even though i could jerk off to porn, the thought of hooking up with them was just not pleasant anymore. its weird as shit.

thankfully though, its helped my current relationship, i no longer feel the need to really want other chicks which has always destroyed my past relationship, and have learned to appreciate and love the current gf who ive been dating on and off for several years.
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>>703053597
such good advice. appreciate it. and I know you're right.. I just really hope she'll come back. she told me a few days ago that she needs to see change and comittment to do so. I signed up for a couple support groups to help me with some things.. my depression/anxiety (whichever one created the other for me) causes shitty mood swings for sure, and I will admit I can be set off by ridiculously-irrelevant things at times so I'm going to take an anger management course for 5 weeks (once a week for 1.5hrs) and also a "love and respect" course at a local church here. also gonna talk to someone (referred to a psychiatrist by my doctor as well) .. just hope this all helps. I need a job so badly as well. all the money I have saved is likely going to be gone before I know it. I may find myself on the streets. 9 months of no work where I live as an electrician
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>>703053772
you're the one whose comment I said that to for real? sorry I just don't want to expose my email to the world or anything
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>>703053900
shit. which is being abused??? the stuff I just got or the ones you said? confused now.
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I've been on Klonopin for 3 years. It's gewd n stuff, ya know? It's top notch right next to xanax. I would try to fix your problems slowly while being on the meds and learn to deal with reality. Best of luck, bud.. I can't really be of any help because every med is different and effects people differently.
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>>703054045
ughhhh.. see.. I can't live like how that sounds. I don't think meds are gonna be good for me. or my relationship if she comes back
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>>703054161
Throw away email bro.
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>>703052506
Get habits, share them with close friends.
Sounds generic but do not care what other people think. Especially in the public. 98% of them won't even remember you tomorrow.
Get a job with what you think is worth doing. I became a nursery teacher because I had almost no men in my life but abusive ones and it fucked me up in the head until I got my shit together when I was 23. You could consider me full autist and I was anxious as fuck.
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>>703054045
like reading that has just made me feel more shitty (no offence).. *sigh*.. why can't I just be normal. :(
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>>703054309
thanks
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>>703049230
Yeah, fag, don't take medicine to help you. Medicine is for retards and pussies. Face it, if you have to take meds, you've already lost the game of life. I would say "GG," but that would be a lie.
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>>703054348
get habits??
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>>703054506
.. what?
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>>703052779
Projecting much? I rape babies for breakfast.
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>>703054506
Not true, and -
>>703049230
OP, relax and try to find the root of your problems.
You don't need to be on meds for the rest of your life.
Just figure your shit out and don't be too hard on yourself.
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>>703054585
You heard me.
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>>703054699
ok thanks
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>>703054726
...
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>>703049604
Where the fuck do you think you are, kid?! You're on the chan, bro. Back the fuck up before you get smacked the fuck up, bitch.
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>>703054050
Sounds good man, any steps in the right direction will help. get yourself back in a good headspace and im sure you will find work. try to keep your focus on the positive as much as you can, if you notice dark thoughts coming, just actively NOPE them. Seriously. Just realize they are there and then think about something else. Any thoughts you don't need in your head, just get rid of them.

Good luck, man, I wish you all the best for sorting out your life, and I'm sure things will go better with everyone else once you get yourself to where YOU are happy with you.
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>>703054227
Take them as prescribed and you will be fine.
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>>703054951
thank you very much. I will try to do that with the thoughts. hopefully I can find a job soon so I can be busy and not just be sitting around all day at our apartment alone being depressed. and I REALLY hope she finds it in her heart to have me back.
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>>703054726
The edgelord is kek.

If you live some perfect life without problems congratulations, no need to piss on everyone else.

Having mental health issues at some point in your life is pretty common.

When you are finished Trying Too Hard, I'm sure theres some cringe thread for you to be condescending in, in the catalog.
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>>703053423
>k what?
Go back to 9fag and shittit (my own twist on Reddit.), newfag cuck looser.
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>>703053772
I messaged you
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>>703055166
haha you have fallen for my bait
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>>703055170
surely you cant be that pathetic

Bait?
Or underageb&?
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>>703049694
If that were really true, their sale would never have been allowed.
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I use Kratom for my social anxiety
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>>703055241
>it was just a bait xD
fake and gay
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>>703051533
So what you're saying is that she's a good cook AND available?
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>>703055170
go back to grade school to distinguish between the spelling of the two different words of the English language. gonna assume you meant to call me "loser" (one "o") and not "looser".. which I will now properly use in a sentence for you -- your asshole is like looser than your mom's. loser.
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>>703055350
haha you have fallen for my double bait.
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V
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>>703055380
Y U NO capitalize other letters?
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>>703055325
I see you have no idea how little the government cares about you. Money is law. You don't make them money if you are not sick. How did they fox that? They make you sick.
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>>703055343
definitely don't have social anxiety.. more just worry about money etc too much.
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>>703055478
Sorry, I left my tinfoil at home.
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>>703052337
Phenibut is nice because it doesn't have horrible withdrawal symptoms or fuck up your memory or make you sedated like benzos can. It just makes you not-anxious. It's also cheap and does not require a prescription. Just Google it.
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>>703055478
i gave up trying to redpill the sheeple.. 90% dont believe you and most of the rest don't appreciate having their little fairytale world shattered
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>>703055576
cool. thanks for the tip!
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>>703052655
>my little girl
>your child
> mother of your child
>my child

You have yet to call her your daughter.
Why?
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>>703055380
No I meant looser, looser.
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>>703055526
>>703055633
hahaha case in point.
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>>703049230
I'm on lexapro 20 milligrams. after a week you feel better
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I'm on them OP and I can't really go any length of time off them without getting depressed. They have a rough come-up but once you are evened out they work really well.

Don't beat yourself up about it, the pills will help in time. One love, hope you feel better soon.
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>>703055666
she is my daughter, I'd say her name but don't care to give it out. she's the cutest little girl in the world
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SSRI and similar medicines are bad for your health and work at their best just a tiny bit better than plasebo. Good diet, excercise and something meaningful to do and social relationships help. If you need medicines, Benzodiatsepines like diazepam work, but they are not to be taken regularly.
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>>703055633
>Red pill
>Sheeple
You're a living fucking meme. I trust what actual science says, not some uneducated cunt on the internet. I'd be glad to see your evidence for your claims. Please, show us.
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>>703055633
I don't feel like giving up. Increasing amount of peeps are realizing humans isn't supposed to be a big ugly piece of fat.
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>>703055703
you're on Effexor? what side effects do you have? thanks man. appreciate your input
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>>703055526
I wish I could regain this sort of ignorance. I was much happier then.
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>>703055827
I don't take pills from strangers that cannot speak properly.
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>>703055806
Big pharma pays most scientist to actually publish their made-up studies. I'm sorry.
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>>703052130
Another depressedfag here. I have horrible anxiety and struggle with bouts of depression. Sometimes they get really bad, can't get out of bed etc. I take Paxil for depression and Klonopin for anxiety. The best way to get out of a depression for me is to get out of the house as much as possible. Good luck anon.
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>>703055865
Skepticism isn't ignorance, mong. Evidence please.
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>>703055931
Great evidence, thanks. I'm converted.
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>>703049230
idk anything about pills. I know about anxiety. See a therapist along with whatever pills you end up with. It helps even if you dont think it does at the time. be well bruh
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>>703055753
No one asked for her name (or pics surprisingly) but it took me to point out that YOU weren't claiming her as your daughter yet she was your "child".

tl;dr - OP's a fag and it's all about him, not his fam.
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>>703055962
man, I hear ya about not being able to get out of bed. I wish I had things to do to get me outside. it's hard getting out of bed at times.. especially right now.
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>>703055962
how old are you by the way?
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>>703056142
appreciate it man.
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>>703056008
What about this: forbes.com/sites/johnlamattina/2013/10/02/pharma-controls-clinical-trials-of-their-drugs-is-this-hazardous-to-your-health/

>>703055963
It's logically the only outcome possible according to how the system works.
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>>703056151
ummmm... alright. well it is actually all about them. if it weren't for them I wouldn't have started this thread. all the things I'm going to do to better myself are for THEM and no one else. me, I can live with myself as is. I want to be better so I can be the man my family needs.
tl;dr - fuck off
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>>703049230
It wont start helping you for a month, retard. Ssris work by making you feel like death for a month, then chilling things out big time.

Look this shit up. Take it every day even if it feels like shit now, itll help in the long run.

Jesus. Fucking children expect instant gratificaiton on everything, thats not how life works OP
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>>703056393>"I made this thread fro them, not me!"
Some one needs their Safe Space.
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>>703054420
Understood. Everyones different so what affects me might not affect you. It by far has definitely improved my life. I used to have terrible mood swings where Id be sitting in the office at work and just want to fucking die even though life was pretty awesome compared to others. Just a note, I am in my 30s, not sure if it wouldve affected me as badly if i was in my 20s and full of life. Now im just enjoying being with one girl, living a nice life with a consistent mood at a work that pays a nice salary, and chilling. Good luck
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>>703056633
not a child. but thanks.
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>>703056724
and by the way, the mood swings made me do other things that affected my life negatively, like drugs and booze and cheating on my girl, all to fill that void that i felt I was having, it, coming into my mid 30's, was exactly what i needed.
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>>703056724
yeah, I'm 40 myself. are there sexual side effects tho for you? I don't want to be in a place where I have no desire to be with my woman, ya know?
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>>703056856
yeah, I'm not a heavy drinker myself at all.. but smoke pot. she didn't like it. definitely caused some arguments.
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>>703056964
Yea, taken from my previous post

The one side effect that ive really noticed is sexual side effects with effexor. its really strange, my dick definitely still works, but the thought of doing anything sexual with anyone kind of turns me off, its really strange man and ive never experienced anything like it in my life. i have an awesome gf that understands but even before her, while i was taking it, i was dating a couple girls, and even though i could jerk off to porn, the thought of hooking up with them was just not pleasant anymore. its weird as shit.
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>>703055806
If you're asking for links to every site I have seen in about 15 years of using the internet that has influenced my belief that most governments aren't there to help out the masses, then, no, I can't help you.

If you wan't to open your fucking mind a bit, realize that maybe what all these "crackpot tinfoil hat conspiracists" are saying possibly has some merit, and do even the slightest amount of research into anything involving politics, you will see that its all one big fucking power struggle. And for the most part, money=power.

I'm sure there are some pharma guys that genuinely want to cure people, but I'm also pretty sure that the big companies would prefer people to be sick so they can continue selling profitable drugs to them.

The next logical step is that the pharma companies are KEEPING people sick, so they can sell profitable drugs.

The world is quite possibly less sinister and fucked up than I percieve it, but i'm PRETTY DAMN SURE reality is more fucked up than your fairy-tale "everything is just fine" world.

Believe what you want, man. If you're ok with the status quo, i'm gonna say you're probably ignorant to a lot of it, but I also envy you.

But there I go again, trying to open peoples minds (since redpill was too memey for you) who dont appreciate it.
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>>703057147
oh ok. that was you.
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do some reading on tyrosine(nalt is my prefered tyrosine supplement) and 5htp and L theneaine. All can be bought very cheap $50 will get you a 12 month supply of each from powder city and you will be feeling better withon 40 minites of taking them for the first time.

Although will take a bit of effort to learn about i would say they are 100x more effective then a anti depressant of any kind.

Remember, depression and anxiety are chemical imbalances, the quickest way to fix the ballance is to supplement things that will let your body sort itself out apposed to using shit from doctors that force your body todo unnatural thing's.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43pM0CwByhY
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>>703057981
sorry, can you please explain what these substances are you're talking about? and elaborate on last part where you say " the quickest way to fix the ballance is to supplement things" thank you
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>>703058081
what in the fuck was that.
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>>703049230
Was on Effexor, 37.5 for years. It really made me feel like I was going to flip out. Been waaaay better since I put down anti depressants altogether. It makes you way more high strung, Wellbutrin is worse. Natural is way better, but harder.
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This one time I went to school and I came out not feeling as good as I did going in so I went to the doc and he gave me pills so I could go in feeling not so remember why.
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>>703058598
I said google it you fucking gimp, lucky i feel sorry for you i guess.

Put simply

5htp will help with saratonin product and sleep.
NALT helps with dopamine production and premotes happy shit
Ltheneine is found in green tea, its almost like natures vallium although without the groggyness
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>>703058876
yeah.. I'm just feeling really out of it right now (just started last night).. I think counselling and support groups may be the better way to go . did you gain weight while on it?
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>>703056825
Keep your chin up and slog through it man. If once you feel it kick in it still doesnt work, dont get down. Just tell your doc and try again.

Its a hell of a process, but this is the 21st fucking century, the technology is worth it if you find the right drug for your noggin.
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>>703049978
You should kill yourself
I did, it's easy and very cheap
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>>703049230
I was on Effexor for three months and it took me six fucking months to wean off that shit. When you start having the "brain zaps" then you will know true fucking hell. Get off that shit asap. You have been advised.
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>>703059030
sorry. but thanks for the info. I just meant like are they natural substances that won't be harmful to me?
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>>703057319
You're right, it's all a big conspiracy and big pharma has managed to keep everyone quiet.
>Literal autism.
I'm so glad I don't have to deal with retards like you on a daily basis.
>it dun dont sound right
Is not evidence. I'm thankful that some people actually have standards for evidence. By the way, the retard board is /x/ or /pol/. Good luck in life.
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>>703060435
brain zaps??? please tell me more. i won't even take the next pill if what you're saying is true
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>>703057319
Nice strawman fallacies, by the way.
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>>703060526
Google Effexor and brain zaps. It's very, very common. You feel like an electric shock in your brain. I had problems controlling my eyes.
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>>703060637
These are capsules with little balls of medicine in them. I was literally counting out 60 little balls and taking them one day. The next day, I counted 59... Etc. it took me six months to completely get off the shit. I was addicted to it. Hardcore.
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just a warning: i took Effexor XR 175mg, but i usually doubled the dose to 300 per day because I was depressed and if you read about the pharmacology of this drug you will understand why I did that. It lowered my standards for what I thought was okay as a human. I made so many regrettable mistakes during that time period holy fuck. It's like, it makes you happier by making you care less about your choices and so impulse is favored over logic, reasoning, heuristic approach to making decisions. It was the hardest thing I've ever had to do to quit. Seriously anyone who has actually gone through this, Venlafaxine (effexor) withdrawal is painful and those who make it out alive and off effexor in the end (like myself) deserve props. (the key is delay dosing/taper, never cold turkey) The fucking brain zaps... holy fuck.. just get ready for those. And you will look them up online because they will freak you the fuck out, and you wont find any information because nobody really cares about it because fuck you. And you will tell your psychiatrist about it and they will look at you with that same look like "okay yeah I've heard of that happening, good luck"

GG bro see you in lumby
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>>703060741
You can't take mdma whilst on mdma
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>>703061794
antidepressants*
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Can't talk much now, but I started a fairly new anti-anxiety pill about 3 months ago and today I feel the best I've been in my life. I take pristiq 100mg. In any anxiety provoking situation I would lose my shit and faint. Changed my life
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>>703062127
I gotta say though, I went 5 days without taking them and had the worst dreams and felt like I was on a rocking boat when ever I sat down
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Do shroooms, people actually get better with their anxiety after they do shrooms
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