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Sup druggies of /b/

Can anyone tell m if it's safe to take to get high on? On the bottle it reads "hydroco/apap5-500mg"
Also the pills are about 10 or more years old
>pic related
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No idea about the drugs, but ingesting anything that's ten years old isn't a good idea.
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yeah take half with some red wine, wait a while and take the other half.
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Take the whole thing and chill. Won't do much just make you feel a little good and numb. No need to drink on top of it though
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>>702984441
The bottle says it's a pain killer and I don't think it's a very good idea to take alcohol with pain killers
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yeah but dont take more than 8 within 24 hours
(500 APAP X 8 = 4000mg which is bad.)

5mg hyrdocodone is not much so one pill probably no effect.

don't do drugs. drugs are evil and will try to steal your life.
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>>702984287
Also does anybody have any experience with this drug
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>>702984727
I've read that it's very addictive so could I get addicted if I don't have a very addictive personality
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i do
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possibly, with prolonged use (2 weeks +).

The addiction potential increases with the time used and amount.
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>>702984287
med student here, go for it. If anything it won't be as potent. 5/500.....take 2 and go from there.
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>>702985315
Could I over dose from 1 pill? 500mg seems kinda like a lot to me also I'm not that big (5"7' and 144 lbs) so you have to take weight into consideration
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>>702984693
don't come on my board if you're just gonna be a lil bitch
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>>702985629
You can't overdose as easy as you think. And when you OD on hydros it's from the tylenol in them
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>>702984287
It's essentially Percocet. Oxy 5, no time release.
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>>702985629
dude, the 500 is acetaminophen, not the opiate. You wont OD on that shit unless youre eating like more than 4 grams of it
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>>702986245
But yep, Tylenol can shut your organs down if you take too much, and it's irriversable.
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Smash it up into a nice line and rip that shit. It's only a 5 dude, you'll barely feel it
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>>702984287
I've taken oxy 160. And lived. It's nothing really. And age makes it weak as shit
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only the 5 part is opiates, the 500 is bullshit. You will fuck your stomach up with the bullshit before you die from the opiates with that kind of ratio. If you have never done opiates before then 2 or 3 may make you feel nice. Also might not though because those are literally some of the weakest opiates you could possibly do. Don't do it more than once in a week and you will never experience addiction/withdrawal. -Junkiefag
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>>702986447
I agree, best method.
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>>702986355
grams of APAP cause acute liver failure
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It low dose vicodin man, just shut up and take it. I've had kidney stones and bad teeth, I've been on every version of that pill there is. 2 or 3 will get you feeling good. Just lay down. Nausea is a side effect of opiates.
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>>702984287
Hey OP, hydrocodone junkie here. Everyone in this thread is retarded. What you have is a 5mg hydrocodone/500mg apap pill. One. 5mg of hydro is fucking nothing. You'll need at least 20mg to be fucked up. But you shouldn't since 500mg apap is a lot. You should only take 1000mg of apap at once or risk liver damage. So my point is: nothing will happen if that's all you have.
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>>702984287

Ive had that exact same pill before, you need at least 3 to have a nice effect.

But if youre taking more than two you need to look into cool water extraction.

As this guy >>702986157 says, you need to remove the tylenol if you want the pure hydro.

Have fun faggot.
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>>702986548
It's Vicodin generic pretty much.
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>>702986685
Junkie also : )
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>>702984287
https://www.drugs.com/imprints/m357-10136.html
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>>702986614
How bad i's the nausea?
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>>702984287
It's vicodin, so yeah. Take like 3
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>>702984287
It's some chippy bullshit. Pills for minor dental. Maybe a fracture. Just need to worry about Tylenol or apap, as other ano a have said. I used to need at least two before I got a ridiculous tolerance.
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>>702986536
>fuck stomach up
>stomach

Acetaminophen fucks up the liver newfriend, not stomach

Op...should be safe to take 5 at once, maybe 6, without worry. Don't drink alcohol though.

If really worried, google "hydrocodone cold water extraction" to get rid of the acetaminophen.

>former hydrocodone addict. Used to take 150-200mgs as day. Also an alcoholic. How my liver still functions is a miracle.
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>>702986686
If he was taking 30 he might need to extract the tylenol, but considering he probably only needs 2 or 3 there is no reason to.
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>>702987301
If he's sensative, this will shut his liver, maybe kidneys down. Don't speak for everyone.
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>>702986685
OD danger level of apap/acetaminophen and liver function is between 3000-4000mg of acetominophen. I'd down 4-6 of these at once without worry as long as no alcohol.
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>>702986685
This. Being 10 years old likely just means the active ingredients will be diminished. Eat something and take 2 and you'll feel great. Don't take them on an empty stomach or it will make you nauseous.
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>>702987453
Tru, it's possible. But even 4 at once should be fine. Not much different than taking 2 extra strength tylenols.
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>>702987301
acetaminophen fucks the liver and stomach....ulcers and gastritis bro.
but yeah, dude is safe to take a few grams worth on his weak ass 5/500 shit
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>>702987648
Yeah 3-4000mg a day. 1000mg at once.
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>>702986685
If op don't use he will get a high junkie.
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>>702987820
Pretty much. I remember a lady on tv a long time ago, took one Tylenol and a glass of wine. Shut her kidneys down permanently.
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>>702987845
I never had stomach issues. Then again my stomach is like a cast iron pot. But I could tell when my liver wasn't happy.

OP...just be careful. No alcohol like I said. And if you are predisposed to addiction, your playing with fire.
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>>702987090
It's not too bad. I was an addict and I could get a good high off of one. But I'm 5'4 110lbs. Just take one, see how you feel. 2 is good.
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>>702984287
> 10 or more years old

You shouldn't take a pill that old. It's worthless.
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>>702988010
Tylenol sucks. Opiates by themselves are better. That's not a recommendation.
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>>702987301
Yeah I used to take six 7.5s and smoke blunts every night. Glad I didn't die.
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>>702986245
Hydrocodone is not oxycodone. Percocet is oxy, Vicodin is hydro. Stop talking out of your ass.
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>>702988150
Pretty much. If it got hot, it's even weaker.
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>>702984287
I took one once. Made me feel kinda drunkish, my head was spinning a little. Wouldn't recommend.
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>>702987942
Meh...I used to take 3000mg (7.5/750s) at once all the time then redose an hour later. But as mentioned, everyone is different. Alcohol should def be avoided at the same time though. Renal failure ain't no joke.
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>>702988277
You sure you didn't take a fucking Xanax? Opiates don't make you feel "drunkish".
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>>702984693
alcohol and pain killers will make you feel really good.

Just dont over do it, and dont do it a lot or you will fuck your liver.
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If you never take this shot, one Vic (vike) won't kill you, and I needed at least two. Used to take up to four or five as well. Be safe.
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>>702987301
>>702987453

The FDA set the maximum daily limit for APAP at 4 grams. That's 8 pills. And that is *very* conservative, meant to be safe for the elderly, for obese people, for people who may have underlying conditions, for people with bad memory that might lose track and take a couple extra.

A young, healthy man could take twice that, easily, without worries. Maybe if he took 15 or 20 grams he might have a sore liver, it would be like a night of heavy drinking, but it sure as shit won't kill you unless there's already something wrong with you.

Tylenol is safe and sold over the counter. It doesn't just explode people's livers because they took a few too many.
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>ITT: Pussies

I can easy down 20-25 of those in 12-15 hours.

Doesn't help to take 8 at a time tho. I've fucked my body up so much 3-4000 mg of APAP might make me nauseous. Every time I gst the 5-500s tho I worry that I'll die.
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>>702988480
That's a statistic, not reality.
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>>702988370
Yeah I'd take 5 10/325s at once. I never believe these "statistics" are ever accurate.
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>>702988370
wait, 3000mg per hour throughout the day? how much acetaminophen total?
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>>702988622
But yeah, I used to eat a shit load of them. And it's probably weak. Just don't kill the Anon.
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>>702988469
OP should take 2 of first time. Shouldn't have any issues. Just like any drug.....start small the first time.

Stuffs evil though. Been clean, for second time, for 4 years now. Won't touch opioid/opiates ever again. Fkd my life up bad :(
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>>702988758
Mine too. It's fucking poison if you get a tolerance, and get sick. Not the flu. Can be like functioning with broken bones. Opiates are fucking hell on earth. But have a nice day, anon.
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I ate a 20 year old darvocets, still worked well for me, now they are no longer prescribed
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>>702988402
that one did. i had pain too and didn't drink with it.
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>>702988690
I did the math once, don't remember though. It was WAY more than what's considered safe. Think it was around 15000mgs (1500gms) of apap a day. Technically....I should be dead or had a liver transplant. That's why I said it's a miracle.

>>702988622
This
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>>702984287
>ingesting anything that's ten years old isn't a good idea.

This. In some cases, pills and drugs just lose some of their potency when they are long past their expiration. In other rarer cases, they become outright dangerous with time.

However, if the pill is exactly what you've described, then I reckon you might not even feel it if you only take one or two after 10+ years have passed. I still do not recommend it if you're normally a heavy drinker or have problems with alcohol (get drunk super fast), take some kind of medication currently, or your family history is full of liver problems.
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> Just sell them
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>>702988945
Withdrawals suck! I'd rather die. I used Kratom to wean off. Now that's getting banned in the US. Fkn heroin epidemic is going to 3 fold.
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>>702984287

>M357 (Acetaminophen and Hydrocodone 500 mg / 5 mg)

So it's a generic Vicodin.

Do with that information what you will. Old medicine doesn't go bad like it will kill you. The expiration dates are just there because it loses potency. So let's say you need 5mg of a drug to literally not have a seizure and die. The drug company is forced by law to tell you when the 5mg labeled drug would lose potency so it's like having only 4.9 mg of working drug left, so you would die or whatever. But it doesn't change into like brain eating parasites or something.
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>>702989148
god damn....impressive, donate youre body to science when youre through with it
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Ten year old pills lose potency you won't feel shit
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>>702989416
Try 100+ mg of Methadone cold turkey. I've only seen that one from afar. But people get pretty traumatized.
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>>702985315
Retarded med student it seems. Go for cold extraction to get out acetaminophen op. 2 won't be enough for a buzz and more will fuck up his stomach and probably his liver. 4000mg is daily dose and if without mix consume. If you take 4000mg daily you take every 6 hours 1mg. While you wait 6 hours alot of the painkiller gets metabolized (half life 2-4hrs). Means already ~75% metabolized. If you add it like that max dose in body is ~1400mg while those 24 hours.

After cold extraction you will need 3-8 pills to have buzz. Depends on your body and how strong. Go for 3, no effect go for 3 more.
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>>702988758
This is me right now. I need them every day. I've got my pay set up from my hospice nursing job so that I get 100 or so a day and mostly blow it on pills.
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>>702984287
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>>702989766
What's the return though? Your reducing fives to what? Extraction is best with actual chem equiptment. Kitchen chemistry is usually total bullshit.
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>>702988758
Should I even bother taking it since people are saying that you can get hooked and it'll mess up your life
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>>702989819
Just wait. Keep it up you'll graduate to IV and your life will disintegrate fast.
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CWE that shit if you have enough
http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f242/cool-cold-water-extraction-removing-paracetamol-co-codamol-tylenol-146646/
Start small buddy
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>>702990211
I shot dope for years, guys. It's fucking hell. And yet I miss the shot. A high that good is not for people who want to live. That's the truth.
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>>702990028
You solve tablets in cold water and cool it down. Acetaminophen will freeze up before water, get acetaminophen out, have more than 90% less acetaminophen. Nothing you need a lab for. It's not chemistry its an extraction. If you feel better wear safety goggles while doing kek
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>>702990356
You won't listen to me. Some will say, I'll never shoot anything. Needles?! Believe me, that passes. I don't care who you are. You'll find a way to get there if thou honestly don't care. But save yourselves a trip through the gates.
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>>702989766
ha,less than 4g/d is standard of care, this dude obviously isnt going to be extracting shit, fuck yourself
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>>702990501
Just an old school nickname for using home equiptment to extract anything, make meth.
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>>702990812
I may have used dope, but never used meth. Fucking brain melted every time.
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OP here

Trips decide what I do with the pills (i.e. take them or dont)
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>>702989819
You don't need them every day. You want them every day. It's the first step to recognize that you choose it. You can choose every day to quit. You have an free will. You just prefer the easy way. Until you haven't realized it you probably won't quit. If you really want it you can stop it whenever you want
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>>702984287
They're expired. Send them to me for further inspection.
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>>702990812
If extraction is chemistry than people making soy oil are chemists? Is cooking then kitchen chemistry?
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>>702991058
Faggot do an cold extraction and take 5. Smoke some weed and look a movie and enjoy. Why do u even ask if you are to pussy to take them. Just don't Listen to these faggots saying you should take less than 20mg or to those faggots saying you should take more than 1g acetaminophen Single dose, or you will feel nothing or killing your liver and vomit a lot
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>>702984287
Don't try those without a CWE. Your liver will not be happy otherwise
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>>702989547
Kek! I should.

>>702989737
No thanks! My addiction turned into 15-20 10mg norcos a day. This addiction lasted 5-6yrs. Lucky I didn't go to heroin.

>>702989819
Kick that shit....now! It's only downhill if u don't. Wish you luck anon.

>>702990168
If your predisposed to addiction like I said earlier...don't fuck with them. Good chance you'll end up a heroin addict if u get hooked, because it's easier to get, cheaper, and stronger.

>>702990356
Glad I never wound up on the horse. My fear of needles helped keep me from it. Opioid/opiates are a bitch to kick. Those late night cold sweats, restless achey legs, nose running like a faucet, etc...will never forget.
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>>702984287
chemicals will have broken down. fool LMGTFY
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>>702991104
No...physically the body has adjusted to using, and this needs it, hence withdrawals when kicking. Psychologically doesn't need and wants. There's a difference between those two.
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>>702984287
Get the fuck out
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Here OP you fucking bitch nigger
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>>702984893
you dont get addicted by one time use
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>>702990501
>safety goggles

1000 KEKS
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>>702992792

>you dont get addicted by one time use

Yes you do.
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>>702984287
10 year old pills are fine, they just lose potency over the years. Except antibiotics, don't take 10 year old antibiotics unless it's the zombie apocalypse or something and you really need an antibiotic.

Depending on how much you weigh, take two or three. If youre skinny, two, if youre heavier, 3. You should be feeling amazing within an hour, give or take. It starts kicking in within 20-30 minutes typically, but the full opiate effect you'll feel within an hour.

Just be smart about it, don't become addicted. If you have a lot, dont start doing them daily, twice a week maximum. Opiate addiction is hell to get off of, and most addicts eventually move up to heroin once pills don't do them justice any longer.

I started with oxy when I was 12 because of my friends druggy mom, had basically unlimited access to them because my grandparents were both prescribed them and never took them. Did oxy for 7 years, started becoming harder and harder to get after a while. Heroin started booming in my city so I switched over, sniffed and smoked it for about a year and a half before I started injecting it. Immediately hated myself after IVing, did it for maybe 2 months, almost OD'd 3 times. 8 people in my city OD'd in the same month, and I decided it was time to kick.

Went to a clinic and started getting suboxone, worked wonders and I'm even off of that now. Every once and a while if I find some hydro or oxy I'll buy it, but haven't gotten back into like I used to.

TL;DR - take 2-3, don't become an addict
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>>702992792
Depends on the person. My first dose was heaven and I didn't look back. It all depends on the person.
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>>702990792
Are you stupid? If you take 4g over 24 hours its different from taking a single dose 4g. Like I explained, in the breaks of consume liver metabolized most of it. If you doing 4000mg single dose you would even have after 2-4hrs more than good for you in blood.if you don't believe, try to drink 1l wodka first over 24 hours and after that you try drink 1l Wodka in less than 10min. With your logic you will survive. I hope you never get Approbation, you seem to be an idiot
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>>702992945
>>702992917
If I try it only once with 2 pills would I get withdrawal symptoms?
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>>702992791
Do I stI'll get nausea?
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>>702992945
Tldr...but ya mostly. OP should be safe with 2 or 3 np for first time. 3 is same as 2 ex strength Tylenol (750mg x 2). Should provide decent buzz for first time.
>don't become an addict
^this
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>>702993190
No. Depending on physiology, maybe a "hangover" type feeling next day. Even that's unlikely.
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>>702993279
How does one not become an addict?
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>>702984287
Do a cold water extraction. Or throw them away. 5mg Vicodin are weak as fuck
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>>702993190
Yes you would instantly feel nothing than a lot of placebo. I recommend you to abuse nabasynth, shit would be perfect for you. But you better don't get addicted
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>>702993385
Gonna take them in a bit, how do u recommend doing it?
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>>702993227
Lel bye nigga
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>>702993492
You NEVER throw away Vicodin. Idc if they're 5-2000s. Don't be a faggot
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>>702993446
I can't answer that anon. My life was shit at the time, and it made me "feel good". Went downhill from there, despite it making "feel better". Used as an escape from reality.

And when I couldn't get any, I was a total asshole, cunt, douchebag that have 0 fucks about anyone and anything.
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>>702993138
can't fucking understand you bro, English definitely isn't your first language. All I know is that 4g is he max dose/day many sources recommend less.
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>>702993516
Google it and couldnt find anything medication related
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>>702993767
In comparison to the 60mg of opana in my nose, 10 year old Vicodin 5's look like trash
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>>702992945
>sniffed it

Get out n00b
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>>702984287
Take 2 and drink a tall can
Enjoy
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>>702993227
You might a little. Doubt 2 or 3 will make u puke. Might have some fkd up dreams though.

>>702993521
First time? 2-3? Just down the hatch with liquid of preference.
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>>702993812
It's used for the ortoli syndrome. Google better
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>>702993907
Well of course. But OP is a bitchboy babby and those 5s will do him just fine mate!
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>>702984287
2nd year pharm student I wouldnt 10 years is alittle to old for me
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>>702984287
If you've never taken it before, 3 will totally work to give you a buzz. Don't listen to these other retards.
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>>702994100
True.. cwe would still be the best way then he could take as much as he wants
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>>702994100
Exactly this. Us experienced users all started small. We were all n00bs once.
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>>702987453
Taking anything less than 4000mg of APAP in 24 hours won't bring any harm to anybody who has a decently functioning liver. You can take 4000mg at once and it won't hurt you, though it's really not recommended.

I used to be a pill junky, I was eating roughly 10 grams of Tylenol a day for a few years and my liver is still perfectly fine. Like, surprisingly fine for the amount I was doing, and I also drink like a fish. I hardly drank at the time I was doing pills, but I do nearly daily now. If I drank then like I do now though, I probably wouldn't be alive.

I'm not saying everybody is like that, because it's just not true. Every individual is different, but 4000mg per 24 hours, whether spread out or all in one shot, is perfectly safe.

If you want to get technical, the recommended daily dosage was changed to 2000mg/day, but the max is still 4000mg. That's why they changed most Tylenol containing opiates to 325mg instead of 500.
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>>702994286
>>702994297
uwu
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>>702994286
For first time with only 2 or 3, cwe isn't necessary. OP wants to get his fix on tonight. Cwe wouldn't be properly complete until tomorrow.
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>>702994352
4g/d is max. 1.5g in body over day. Taking 4g single dose is not safe. Just because you have no problems now doesn't mean your liver is already damaged. You probably get problems when older or even cancer
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>>702994352
They refomulated because big pharma caused an epidemic....less renal failure deaths means less bad press for big pharma. Plain and simple.
>how I miss my little yellow football 10mg Norco.
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>>702984287
Take 2 and call me in the morning
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>>702994231
>2nd year
You know nothing Jon snow
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>>702994352
Take yellows dumbass!
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>>702993190
No, you wont. Though I truly recommend three pills so you actually feel it how it should be. Just eat something 20 minutes beforehand
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>>702995165
No way...go hardcore or go home. Empty stomach all the way!
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>>702994521
I just have a hard time believing that 10-15mg of hydro would do anything.. but I guess it's been a while. Have you had those new hydrocodone ER's? Last time I had hydro was when I chewed on an 80mg one of those and it still barely did anything
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>>702993190
Are you a troll
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>>702995360
First time it does for most. Then I wound up taking 15-20 10mg Norco a day.

Zohydro or w/e it's called? Nope. Won't touch painkillers now. They came out not long after I kicked. Was curious tho.
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>>702995627
Ya I think that's what they're called! I mostly stick to oxycodone and oxymorphone. I go a few weeks on and a few weeks off. I have actual pain but I also love the buzz and I've learned that if I don't put myself through withdrawal I won't get pain relief or high
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>>702995625
Hello?
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>>702995625
I'm just really retarded to be honest
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>>702996513
It's ok, we all are.
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I have 0 tolerance what so ever and I'm thinking of taking 1 pill. But how should I take it?
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>>702984287
Yes they are i take old pills they dont expire they just become less potent
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>>702995981
That's how I got hooked...fkd up back and script happy doc. I couldn't self control intake. I did once, for a very short time (after first time kicking). Then had a new doc, wash, rinse, repeat.

Oxy has never done much for me. Something with metabolism. Oxy makes me feel zombie like (so does codeine and morphine), hydro makes me hyper, awake, alive....like I can take on the world!

FYI....
Oxycodone is metabolized into oxymorphone. Hydrocodone metabolizes into hydromorphone. Codeine metabolizes into morphine. Just some interesting biology stuff. SCIENCE BITCH!
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Take 2 you get a solid high you feel itchy but its nice
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I hate opiates.
I will get a hangover from 20mg oxycodon and the next day I have to throw up.
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>>702998087
That's a good thing....you won't get addicted cuz your body hates it. Feel lucky. Or halve your dose and join us addicts
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>>702998315
Nah, I don t even like downers.
If I get hooked up it would be speed.
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>>702984693
The bottle probably also says dont take if youre not prescribed but youre not following that rule either, dumbfag
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>>702998762
Had a small adderall addiction once...cocaine too. Tried street meth, didn't like it. Hydrocodone made me "alive" like an upper. >>702997820
Fkn LOVED cocaine!!!! Me and 3 friends blew through $10k in one weekend in coke. At...the good ol days!
I'm 39 now and have 2 daughters, so all of that is behind me. But the fun times will always be remembered!
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>>702997820
All opiates feel the same way with energy, confidence etc. until I take enough to nod, and by then I have to consciously breath so I try not to do that. Oxycodone, oxymorphone, hydromorphone, and promethazine with codeine (not alone) are all amazing to me
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>>702999402
you feel like your brain doesnt work as well anymore due to your extensive drug use?
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>>702999402
For me cocaine only works with alcohol otherwise it s a little bit lame
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This one time my sophomore year I bought what I thought was perco I bought 3 pills took them all in my first hour and was fucked up for 2 days I still don't know what o bought
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>>702986545
Terrible idea. So much powder and its all Tylenol.
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>>702984287
10mg hydro 375mg apap (tylenol) thats what i usually take. Have fun.
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>>702993794
Can't figure out if you're a troll or just thick as shit.
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Thanks for all the info you /b/ros gave me
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Oops that's a 375 not 367
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