Sup druggies of /b/
Can anyone tell m if it's safe to take to get high on? On the bottle it reads "hydroco/apap5-500mg"
Also the pills are about 10 or more years old
yeah but dont take more than 8 within 24 hours
(500 APAP X 8 = 4000mg which is bad.)
5mg hyrdocodone is not much so one pill probably no effect.
don't do drugs. drugs are evil and will try to steal your life.
don't come on my board if you're just gonna be a lil bitch
Smash it up into a nice line and rip that shit. It's only a 5 dude, you'll barely feel it
only the 5 part is opiates, the 500 is bullshit. You will fuck your stomach up with the bullshit before you die from the opiates with that kind of ratio. If you have never done opiates before then 2 or 3 may make you feel nice. Also might not though because those are literally some of the weakest opiates you could possibly do. Don't do it more than once in a week and you will never experience addiction/withdrawal. -Junkiefag
It low dose vicodin man, just shut up and take it. I've had kidney stones and bad teeth, I've been on every version of that pill there is. 2 or 3 will get you feeling good. Just lay down. Nausea is a side effect of opiates.
Hey OP, hydrocodone junkie here. Everyone in this thread is retarded. What you have is a 5mg hydrocodone/500mg apap pill. One. 5mg of hydro is fucking nothing. You'll need at least 20mg to be fucked up. But you shouldn't since 500mg apap is a lot. You should only take 1000mg of apap at once or risk liver damage. So my point is: nothing will happen if that's all you have.
Ive had that exact same pill before, you need at least 3 to have a nice effect.
But if youre taking more than two you need to look into cool water extraction.
As this guy >>702986157 says, you need to remove the tylenol if you want the pure hydro.
Have fun faggot.
It's some chippy bullshit. Pills for minor dental. Maybe a fracture. Just need to worry about Tylenol or apap, as other ano a have said. I used to need at least two before I got a ridiculous tolerance.
>fuck stomach up
Acetaminophen fucks up the liver newfriend, not stomach
Op...should be safe to take 5 at once, maybe 6, without worry. Don't drink alcohol though.
If really worried, google "hydrocodone cold water extraction" to get rid of the acetaminophen.
>former hydrocodone addict. Used to take 150-200mgs as day. Also an alcoholic. How my liver still functions is a miracle.
This. Being 10 years old likely just means the active ingredients will be diminished. Eat something and take 2 and you'll feel great. Don't take them on an empty stomach or it will make you nauseous.
I never had stomach issues. Then again my stomach is like a cast iron pot. But I could tell when my liver wasn't happy.
OP...just be careful. No alcohol like I said. And if you are predisposed to addiction, your playing with fire.
Meh...I used to take 3000mg (7.5/750s) at once all the time then redose an hour later. But as mentioned, everyone is different. Alcohol should def be avoided at the same time though. Renal failure ain't no joke.
The FDA set the maximum daily limit for APAP at 4 grams. That's 8 pills. And that is *very* conservative, meant to be safe for the elderly, for obese people, for people who may have underlying conditions, for people with bad memory that might lose track and take a couple extra.
A young, healthy man could take twice that, easily, without worries. Maybe if he took 15 or 20 grams he might have a sore liver, it would be like a night of heavy drinking, but it sure as shit won't kill you unless there's already something wrong with you.
Tylenol is safe and sold over the counter. It doesn't just explode people's livers because they took a few too many.
I can easy down 20-25 of those in 12-15 hours.
Doesn't help to take 8 at a time tho. I've fucked my body up so much 3-4000 mg of APAP might make me nauseous. Every time I gst the 5-500s tho I worry that I'll die.
OP should take 2 of first time. Shouldn't have any issues. Just like any drug.....start small the first time.
Stuffs evil though. Been clean, for second time, for 4 years now. Won't touch opioid/opiates ever again. Fkd my life up bad :(
Mine too. It's fucking poison if you get a tolerance, and get sick. Not the flu. Can be like functioning with broken bones. Opiates are fucking hell on earth. But have a nice day, anon.
I did the math once, don't remember though. It was WAY more than what's considered safe. Think it was around 15000mgs (1500gms) of apap a day. Technically....I should be dead or had a liver transplant. That's why I said it's a miracle.
>ingesting anything that's ten years old isn't a good idea.
This. In some cases, pills and drugs just lose some of their potency when they are long past their expiration. In other rarer cases, they become outright dangerous with time.
However, if the pill is exactly what you've described, then I reckon you might not even feel it if you only take one or two after 10+ years have passed. I still do not recommend it if you're normally a heavy drinker or have problems with alcohol (get drunk super fast), take some kind of medication currently, or your family history is full of liver problems.
>M357 (Acetaminophen and Hydrocodone 500 mg / 5 mg)
So it's a generic Vicodin.
Do with that information what you will. Old medicine doesn't go bad like it will kill you. The expiration dates are just there because it loses potency. So let's say you need 5mg of a drug to literally not have a seizure and die. The drug company is forced by law to tell you when the 5mg labeled drug would lose potency so it's like having only 4.9 mg of working drug left, so you would die or whatever. But it doesn't change into like brain eating parasites or something.
Retarded med student it seems. Go for cold extraction to get out acetaminophen op. 2 won't be enough for a buzz and more will fuck up his stomach and probably his liver. 4000mg is daily dose and if without mix consume. If you take 4000mg daily you take every 6 hours 1mg. While you wait 6 hours alot of the painkiller gets metabolized (half life 2-4hrs). Means already ~75% metabolized. If you add it like that max dose in body is ~1400mg while those 24 hours.
After cold extraction you will need 3-8 pills to have buzz. Depends on your body and how strong. Go for 3, no effect go for 3 more.
You solve tablets in cold water and cool it down. Acetaminophen will freeze up before water, get acetaminophen out, have more than 90% less acetaminophen. Nothing you need a lab for. It's not chemistry its an extraction. If you feel better wear safety goggles while doing kek
You won't listen to me. Some will say, I'll never shoot anything. Needles?! Believe me, that passes. I don't care who you are. You'll find a way to get there if thou honestly don't care. But save yourselves a trip through the gates.
You don't need them every day. You want them every day. It's the first step to recognize that you choose it. You can choose every day to quit. You have an free will. You just prefer the easy way. Until you haven't realized it you probably won't quit. If you really want it you can stop it whenever you want
Faggot do an cold extraction and take 5. Smoke some weed and look a movie and enjoy. Why do u even ask if you are to pussy to take them. Just don't Listen to these faggots saying you should take less than 20mg or to those faggots saying you should take more than 1g acetaminophen Single dose, or you will feel nothing or killing your liver and vomit a lot
Kek! I should.
No thanks! My addiction turned into 15-20 10mg norcos a day. This addiction lasted 5-6yrs. Lucky I didn't go to heroin.
Kick that shit....now! It's only downhill if u don't. Wish you luck anon.
If your predisposed to addiction like I said earlier...don't fuck with them. Good chance you'll end up a heroin addict if u get hooked, because it's easier to get, cheaper, and stronger.
Glad I never wound up on the horse. My fear of needles helped keep me from it. Opioid/opiates are a bitch to kick. Those late night cold sweats, restless achey legs, nose running like a faucet, etc...will never forget.
No...physically the body has adjusted to using, and this needs it, hence withdrawals when kicking. Psychologically doesn't need and wants. There's a difference between those two.
10 year old pills are fine, they just lose potency over the years. Except antibiotics, don't take 10 year old antibiotics unless it's the zombie apocalypse or something and you really need an antibiotic.
Depending on how much you weigh, take two or three. If youre skinny, two, if youre heavier, 3. You should be feeling amazing within an hour, give or take. It starts kicking in within 20-30 minutes typically, but the full opiate effect you'll feel within an hour.
Just be smart about it, don't become addicted. If you have a lot, dont start doing them daily, twice a week maximum. Opiate addiction is hell to get off of, and most addicts eventually move up to heroin once pills don't do them justice any longer.
I started with oxy when I was 12 because of my friends druggy mom, had basically unlimited access to them because my grandparents were both prescribed them and never took them. Did oxy for 7 years, started becoming harder and harder to get after a while. Heroin started booming in my city so I switched over, sniffed and smoked it for about a year and a half before I started injecting it. Immediately hated myself after IVing, did it for maybe 2 months, almost OD'd 3 times. 8 people in my city OD'd in the same month, and I decided it was time to kick.
Went to a clinic and started getting suboxone, worked wonders and I'm even off of that now. Every once and a while if I find some hydro or oxy I'll buy it, but haven't gotten back into like I used to.
TL;DR - take 2-3, don't become an addict
Are you stupid? If you take 4g over 24 hours its different from taking a single dose 4g. Like I explained, in the breaks of consume liver metabolized most of it. If you doing 4000mg single dose you would even have after 2-4hrs more than good for you in blood.if you don't believe, try to drink 1l wodka first over 24 hours and after that you try drink 1l Wodka in less than 10min. With your logic you will survive. I hope you never get Approbation, you seem to be an idiot
Tldr...but ya mostly. OP should be safe with 2 or 3 np for first time. 3 is same as 2 ex strength Tylenol (750mg x 2). Should provide decent buzz for first time.
>don't become an addict
I can't answer that anon. My life was shit at the time, and it made me "feel good". Went downhill from there, despite it making "feel better". Used as an escape from reality.
And when I couldn't get any, I was a total asshole, cunt, douchebag that have 0 fucks about anyone and anything.
Taking anything less than 4000mg of APAP in 24 hours won't bring any harm to anybody who has a decently functioning liver. You can take 4000mg at once and it won't hurt you, though it's really not recommended.
I used to be a pill junky, I was eating roughly 10 grams of Tylenol a day for a few years and my liver is still perfectly fine. Like, surprisingly fine for the amount I was doing, and I also drink like a fish. I hardly drank at the time I was doing pills, but I do nearly daily now. If I drank then like I do now though, I probably wouldn't be alive.
I'm not saying everybody is like that, because it's just not true. Every individual is different, but 4000mg per 24 hours, whether spread out or all in one shot, is perfectly safe.
If you want to get technical, the recommended daily dosage was changed to 2000mg/day, but the max is still 4000mg. That's why they changed most Tylenol containing opiates to 325mg instead of 500.
4g/d is max. 1.5g in body over day. Taking 4g single dose is not safe. Just because you have no problems now doesn't mean your liver is already damaged. You probably get problems when older or even cancer
They refomulated because big pharma caused an epidemic....less renal failure deaths means less bad press for big pharma. Plain and simple.
>how I miss my little yellow football 10mg Norco.
I just have a hard time believing that 10-15mg of hydro would do anything.. but I guess it's been a while. Have you had those new hydrocodone ER's? Last time I had hydro was when I chewed on an 80mg one of those and it still barely did anything
First time it does for most. Then I wound up taking 15-20 10mg Norco a day.
Zohydro or w/e it's called? Nope. Won't touch painkillers now. They came out not long after I kicked. Was curious tho.
Ya I think that's what they're called! I mostly stick to oxycodone and oxymorphone. I go a few weeks on and a few weeks off. I have actual pain but I also love the buzz and I've learned that if I don't put myself through withdrawal I won't get pain relief or high
That's how I got hooked...fkd up back and script happy doc. I couldn't self control intake. I did once, for a very short time (after first time kicking). Then had a new doc, wash, rinse, repeat.
Oxy has never done much for me. Something with metabolism. Oxy makes me feel zombie like (so does codeine and morphine), hydro makes me hyper, awake, alive....like I can take on the world!
Oxycodone is metabolized into oxymorphone. Hydrocodone metabolizes into hydromorphone. Codeine metabolizes into morphine. Just some interesting biology stuff. SCIENCE BITCH!
Had a small adderall addiction once...cocaine too. Tried street meth, didn't like it. Hydrocodone made me "alive" like an upper. >>702997820
Fkn LOVED cocaine!!!! Me and 3 friends blew through $10k in one weekend in coke. At...the good ol days!
I'm 39 now and have 2 daughters, so all of that is behind me. But the fun times will always be remembered!
All opiates feel the same way with energy, confidence etc. until I take enough to nod, and by then I have to consciously breath so I try not to do that. Oxycodone, oxymorphone, hydromorphone, and promethazine with codeine (not alone) are all amazing to me