Thoughts on this? I want actual intelligent replies as it is quite thought provoking.
Fuck off to pol new fag
>>702908730
/thread
>>702908541
You can cure cancer by injecting the tumour with ethanol , drying it out and killing it. doesn't mean that's a good idea, or will actually put it into remission.
Well duh... Cancer can be cured using an extract from extra virgin olive oil, called oleocanthal. That's the only cure that I know of and I've seen it for myself.
>>702908541
What is thought provoking about it? It's obviously complete tinfoil hat bullshit.
cancer is a natural phenomenon that occurs within the body of a living creature. Essentially it's a cell going rogue; abandoning it's programming and multiplying endlessly.
Unhindered by pre-programmed cell death, it produces a chemical called "Telomerase" allowing the cell to restore the Telomere cap at the end of the chromosome and thus multiply without defects.
It's only theory as to what causes cancer. Some people get it without even being exposed to known carcinogens, other people are heavily exposed to cancer-causing substances, but still don't get it.
claiming that there is a cure and that every single scientist and doctor working on a cure is just withholding it from the public so they can make the medical system more money is preposterous and far reaching. It's a claim based on nothing more than "the evil corporation is obviously just withholding the cure for cancer to make more moniez"
>>702908541
Is this even thought of as a secret?
Big pharma won't put much effort into research if they can sell you meds for life.
Its the glorious invisible hand of the market correcting for what's best for civilization! Now back to work drone.
>>702908541
If there was a cure, people who could would pay billions for it.
Steve Jobs died, there's all that needs saying about this cringefag anomynoose shite.
>>702909118
Government go away pl0x.
>>702908541
Well that's true.
I'm belgian and my brother is doing his genetic phd here in Brussels.
The lab boss is a gross fat dude, who drinks is weight in beer everyday. But this dude have worked on actives substences that may have influence in cancerous cells in breast cancer context.
He actually had surprising results on test made on mouse and stuff.
The day he went to present is product to the lab CEO they just berried the project saying those won't earn enough money to product/sell.
There's a interview of this dude on internet somewhere, I'll try to find it.
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>>702908541
How much is the cure for cancer worth?
>>702909250
this
>>702908541
>>702908541
Think of how many billions of people could use the vaccine and how much more fucking money they could make off that to realize how stupid that image is. David Wolfe is the real cancer.
>>702908541
He's half right. There already have been cures to cancer which got developed and went through testing to prove that they work, but money isn't the only thing keeping them from being publicly available.
>>702909374
That was rude I reported you. Enjoy having your IP address banned.
>>702908541
>>702909549
Roll
>>702909549
666
>>702909640
Fail
>>702909326
google search :
'fat drunk belgian playing with mice boobs says he can cure cancer'
>>702909326
>>702909326
HERE IS DE VID'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjZmZf5eJqg
It's in french. I can translate if you guys wants to.
wew
xd
>>702909655
asshole.
>>702909487
There are hundreds of different types of cancer, with each treatment having varying degrees of success. Some are relatively easy to treat, some are a death sentence. There's no conspiracy.
>>702909737
>There are hundreds of different types of cancer
The types of cancer mainly refer to what organ it's found in, cancer itself is exactly the same. It's just a clump of cells growing too fast. There have been some chemicals and some metals which have been shown to slow down the cells from multiplying, like gold for example.
>>702908541
I suppose Steve Jobs was just too poor to afford treatment then
>>702909815
That's fucking nonsense.
>>702909658
Any with accurate English narration or subtitles?
>>702908541
What if OP is a faggot
>>702909867
No it's not. I propose you actually study what cancer is before you talk about the subject.
>>702909884
Nope. But this is quite revelant to this thread.
I like to think of cancer as nature's way of thinning the herd
>>702909854
They withhold information of cures from certain popular rich celebrities so people point this out when they die. That alone woule be enough proof for there to be no cures.
>>702909326
I too am belgian. Hi.
>>702909815
It just bugs the shit out of me that we've cracked most diseases, we only a few left and people seem to think thats a sign that there's a shadowy organization trying to destroy the world. I mean fuck, if there was a cure and it was suppressed then you can be sure as fuck some other lab will find it within the month.
>>702909910
Uhh yes, it is. I suggest you study fucking off.
Then once you've mastered it, fuck off some more.
>>702909973
Hey there. From ?
>>702909963
Then the bigger question is:
Where are the poor and hated celebrities? Those fuckers hide better than jews at a Nazi party.
>>702909250
Steve jobs died because he is an idiot that didn't use modern medicine
>>702910002
Okay so you're apparently a 12 year old.
Here, some medical research to prove my point: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4418858/
Now fuck off and go read a book about cancer before you open your dumbass mouth.
There are many, many ways to kill cancer cells. The problem is not killing the healthy ones at the same time.
>>702909995
What if I told you that all healthcare organisations are in on it?
>>702908541
Cut it out already with all this Anonymous craps....
Jesus, you all are fucking autistic retarded oc faggots.
>>702908541
This comic sums it up pretty well...
>>702910128
so teh only way avoid cancer is be healthcare job guy?>
>>702910110
build a wall between good and bad cells
>>702908541
C I T A T I O N N E E D E D
You faggots have no idea what cancer is. It is not a fucking virus or a bacteria that you can "cure." It is an unwanted mutation of cells. There is no one stop cure with today's technology.
When people talk about the retards who make up this country's voter base, there talking about you.
>>702910076
That doesn't prove your point ledditfag.
200+ types of cancers, 60 organs that develop cancers. Hurrrrrrrr duuurrrrrrr
>>702910189
No, it's just that healthcare organisations are run by greedy fucks who'd rather sell you medicine on a regular basis than just cure your problem instantly. They also don't care about you dying, the world is overpopulated anyway.
>>702908541
Then they're going to double down profits since Fukushima is still leaking.
>>702908541
Living patients are paying patients.
Fucking bullshit tinfoil hat rubbish.
>>702910237
Okay so you're a moron. I'm not really going to argue further with you. Go read a book because it's pretty clear you don't know shit about what you're posting about, but hey it's /b/.
>>702910265
dats rite, be managr of healthcar place. safe from cancre
>>702910128
Even the private ones, the independent universities or the ones belonging to governments that'd kill to have the bragging rights that come with curing cancer? I understand its impossible for you to be mistaken so the only explanation is impossibly vast conspiracy where there's only one guy on earth who isn't in on it. Thats you?
>>702910031
't stad neger
>>702910316
>cancer is always the same debunked
>g-g-go read a book!
Kek you fail, gb2 leddit
>>702910357
>there's only one guy on earth who isn't in on it.
There are multiple people who proposed to make their cures for cancer public but got rejected or they didn't really have enough funding. It's all controlled by the greedy assholes in charge of this shit show.
>>702909815
LETS INJECT HEAVY METALS INTO THE BLOODSTREAM TO "CURE" THE CANCER
this is like snake oil all over again.
Cancer isn't just a "clump of cells growing too fast." It's a condition that effects us on a cellular level, and once it effects your cells it's very very hard to get rid of it because it effects the cells around it as well. This is why someone who gets cancer in their lungs may also get it in other places as well, and it's also why it's so dangerous to us.
If the cancer has spread recently it's almost impossible to detect. It could be just 1-2 cells in the liver, or the lungs, or the heart. Skin cancer is extremely common because of our exposure to the sun.
You will never "cure cancer". You will only find more efficient treatments as our understanding of the condition grows with research.
It's pretty apparent that you only have a vague understanding of cancer, probably read from Wikipedia one night before school, and now you think you're a fucking specialist.
>>702908541
The tobacco industry is bigger than that for cancer.
Hence, if there was a cure for cancer then the tobacco industry would ensure that it reaches the public as that would lead to their already huge market increase at least 3-4 fold.
I'd say you're a conspiratorial idiot whose weak understanding of science feeds his own pathetic fears. Cancer is not a single disease. There are more than 200 forms of cancer and have to be detected differently and treated uniquely. Stay home.
This is why I hate people.
Source: I'm phd working on melanoma research.
>>702910434
Such as?
>>702910434
Those are generally fruit loops who think avocados ripened under full moons cure cancer. Our country developed a free hpv vaccine that's virtually eliminating cervical cancer. Where were the secret cancer police there?
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>>702910523
This
>>702910512
>It's pretty apparent that you only have a vague understanding of cancer, probably read from Wikipedia one night before school, and now you think you're a fucking specialist.
I'm a certified radiologist with a degree, so I know what I'm talking about. Meanwhile all you really posted is a bunch of vague gibberish along the lines of "cancer is 2 compecks u dun understan". You also don't treat cancer by injecting gold into the bloodstream, which further proves how little you know. Fuck off.
>>702910564
Such as gold.
>>702910299
That is why they have treatments and never cures.
So what? Do u have the money to pay for it? No. so stop bitching. Money rules everything. Get a job. Getrich. Geneticly design cancer like they did and make a cure and never sell it to make even more money. Its the game you polish bitch.
>>702910523
/thread
>>702910512
Everyone on /b/ is a doctor specializing in cancer, braintumors and female genitalia.
>>702908541
This argument only really makes sense in the US where health care is privatized and thus pharmaceuticals/hospitals can charge you out the asshole.
In the rest of the work where there's no/much less money to be made, wouldn't it be in the governments interest to use the cheapest and most effective method?
>>702910523
Fucking this
>>702910735
Gov still foots the bill
>>702910523
Sell more cancer causing products because we cured cancer. I like your thinking.
>>702910703
Everything is copy and pasted from med websites(regardless how dependable the source) faggot.
>>702910668
A vaccine/cure can be marketed to 100% of the population. A treatment can be marketed to the .1% of the population that has it. The end.
>>702908541
its fucking truth , the cheapest solution for cancer are anticancer enzymes , vegetables and such contain them
btw did you notice that rich and important people never die on cancer ?
>>702909549
We are Anomalous.
We are a region.
Forgive and forget.
Expecto patronum
http://www.cairnspost.com.au/lifestyle/far-north-queensland-cancer-drug-human-trials-underway/news-story/1248dae0493461e2c956c8654e77ac6a
A fruit in qld Australia proven to cure cancer! I guarantee it wont make it past trials! wonder why....
News post this to make people believe the cure will be released.. More people give more money to large corps to fund them....
>>702910523
Only smart answer in this thread
>>702910847
Yeah, Steve Jobs just won't go away! Or the ten thousand page wiki section on big names who were killed by cancer.
>>702910659
post degree with timestamp?
All you've been doing this entire thread is posting gibberish.
What you're telling me is that somehow GOLD reacts with cancerous cells and slows them down, and that, even though you are INJECTING THIS SUBSTANCE into a tumor that is connected to your circulatory system, it will not enter the bloodstream?
Again though, post picture of degree and maybe I'll take you a bit more seriously, but not really. I doubt that someone of your caliber could get a degree in radiology.
>>702910902
Oh dear, a trade secret fruit. Cancer is scared for its life right now.
>>702910902
I hope you get cancer. You can test out your fruit. :)
>>702910796
OH really? So you're saying that there are never studies found to be simply wrong? So you're saying that the average poster on /b/ has more idea about current medical problems than people who work all their lifes on the subject?
>if you don't specialize in a subject of scientific relevance and still argue about it your opinion is probably wrong
>>702910961
Whatever man, I don't even know why am I arguing with morons on /b/. Peace out dumbfuck.
>>702908541
I'm not saying there is a giant conspiracy to keep cancer uncured, but it is very true that lots of money is made off of continued treatment for it. To take the same idea to a smaller scale: some of the biggest lobbyistd against marijuana legalisation are pharma groups and prison worker unions, groups that make a living off problems that would be lessened if it were legal. Consider the reduced number of painkiller prescriptions in Wash. and Co. since prohibition was repealed there.
Again, I'm not going tinfoil-hat over cancer, just stating the facts.
>>702910954
jobs wasnt important
>>702910794
They're already being sold. The biggest anti-tobacco stance is "it causes cancer it's too harmful".
So if there were a cure for cancer, there's basically no huge risk to smoking anymore. You could get cancer, but you just go to the doctor and get it cured, no big deal.
>>702910902
Something not making it past trials is proof of a) it not working or b) a vast conspiracy that makes no economic sense when you really think about it.
>>702910523
Very interesting....do you think if common cold was fatal then ice creams would be heavily taxed/banned?
>>702910995
>>702911021
Mad amerifats jelly they can't grow a cure
>>702910879
Thank you for saying this
Edmund Pratt spent 20 years at the helm of Pfizer, the largest pharmaceutical company in the world. Total assets worth about $170 Billion, they amass research and development from everywhere, buying up smaller companys, bribing larger ones and playing spy games to get experimentals from china. They have their filthy fingers in everything. Edmund Pratt had access to every drug known to man, every drug unknown outside of the industry and every new rumored experimental drug. If a cure to cancer existed then Edmund was the one man on Earth who could get it. Edmund died of cancer.
>>702911046
Because you're mentally retarded and seek validation, and now you're going to run away because you know that you aren't as smart as you think you are, and you don't want to admit it because your entire world will fall apart.
>>702911067
but he was rich af
>>702909280
>american education
Even jon snow thinks youre stupid
>>702909487
Money IS the only thing. Just last year a. Pm tobacco tried to buy a cure that they were selling but it was bought by a kemo therapy and radiation machine company out of thailand. They were backed by 3 radiation machine specialist and another pharmisutical company. Why dont we talk about that?
>>702910635
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>>702911083
>Australian
lol
>>702911129
\thread
>>702909250
if the cure is eating organic diet how are they supposed to sell that dipshit
>>702909118
>knowing how a disease works = must be incurable
ok
you shouldnt be here if you're under 18
that includes you op. shit's common knowledge by now
Stop posting about Steve Jobs
He thought eating vegetables could cure cancer and he rejected all real treatments
>>702911043
Regardless how dependable the source. Can u fuckin read?( knew u were a faggot)
>>702911225
You did it wrong
>>702910961
Gold nanoparticles could possibly be used to treat cancer and there are some studies on it.
One of the most common cancer drugs is cis-platin, Which is a platinum atom with 2 chlorides and 2 skins groups attached to it in a cis arrangement
>>702908541
I'dSay: UrRite.
>>702911305
Amine, not skins
>>702908541
>>702911291
Found the web dev
>>702911165
How retarded do you have to be to not know I was kidding?
>>702911291
fuck off randy bobandy
>>702910792
Not quite. Health care is publicly funded, but not unlimited funded. They have fixed budgets that are subject to regular review. And pharmaceuticals can't advertise, or lobby hospitals/private practices to use their brand.
>>702911358
Found the newfag
>>702911291
Shut up randy
>>702911324
>anime
Do people cling to conspiracy theories because they want to feel important? Like someone cares enough to watch their every move? That their lives being shit isn't their fault, its some mysterious external figure pulling strings? When you actually look at the logistics of this shit you realize how impossible it actually is but they cling to it like gospel.
>>702911413
Amine for life
>>702908541
>quite thought provoking
Holy fucking cringe
>>702911305
>cis arrangement
>>702909326
I would berrie my dick in that so hard
>>702909118
The problem is that you and I have no way to prove or disprove this. You are going on faith that what you are being told is the truth. Obviously finding some natural cure for cancer would be the worst case scenario for big pharma. Second worst case would be some rogue scientists discovering a synthesized cure, a real cure, that would ultimately mean the end of cancer research, at least in the time being. One company works make an assload of cash on it but then the well would run dry. It's just human nature to be greedy and to say that all scientific research is honorable is also in the tinfoil hat category.
worked in genetics. specifically, fred hutchison. the cure for cancer has existed since i was an intern, as far back as 2002. it was very hush-hush but it was sort of known amongst the genetics community in and around seattle back then since everyone thought deployment was "just around the corner" and waiting a few more "months" wasnt going to hurt anyone. that never happened. long story short: the cure would have cost the economy too much money and research showed that the risk of riots and shortages required production to ramp up to levels sufficient to prevent unrest (i saw the studies). think about what would happen if the USA had a cure but only enough to offer it to about a 20th of those who needed it? what would happen if someone's cherished love died before then, how desperate and angry they would be? now imagine every country outside the USA was in the same position? you get the picture. in the end it was decided that "the hard way" would be better as it would be more gradual: brute force targeted genetics i.e.: CRISPR. every patient gets their own customized cure for their particular type of cancer based on their unique genetics. it was thought this would be more gradual to allow the economy to adapt and provide other research benefits, which is all true. but rest assured there is a simple pill you can take that could cure all cancer that has been around for at least 15 years.
>>702908541
If cancer was curable and causable and the companies really were in it for money then why not keep treating people, curing them, and then giving them cancer again? It doesn't make any sense to just do it once.
A more "feasible" possibility is the development of treatments, vaccines, and "cures" for some cancers, but the problem being that even with NO margin for profit, these drugs/treatments will be extremely expensive, and only available to the rich.
"Oh, there's a treatment/cure for your colon cancer Mr. Jones, but it is $50,000 a month for 10 months. Ok?"
>>702911393
>calling someone a newfag
Fucking newfags.
>>702911504
Why is this a conspiracy? This is to real for some of you i see. Grow up and learn that if u dont have money u will never get your way. The world is designed like this deal with it or go believe in the flower of life hippie shit and hug a tree. Cures are reserved for war and profit
>>702911644
Newfags dubs
>>702908541
>cure(s) for cancer
Whenever I see this, I know I'm looking at text from someone who has very little knowledge about medicine and about what cancer actually is.
Short of nanobots, I highly doubt there is any "silver bullet" cure for all types of cancer.
why is this considered a tinfoil hat thing? you'd have to be more crazy to trust that there's no cure instead of doing your own research and realizing that its a DNA-altering issue that comes from consuming DNA-altered foods..... plenty of documentaries where they feed some dying niggers all organic diet and their cancer goes away, go watch
theres no instant cure because its a problem that develops slowly over time. bad food & bad air poison slowly. "this level of ___ in ur ___ is okay because its not toxic levels" ok but just cause it doesnt kill u dont mean it does nothing. get ur heads outta the gutter
>>702911680
NO U
>>702908541
That's a gross exaggeration. There are loads of people in research making the best advances we've ever seen on curing cancers currently. Thee are not actual cures being hidden, though there may be some in the notoriously back logged FDA process, & some hidden in the enormous pile of research projects that don't get pursued.
But the ultimate $ is in the ip of a cure. As soon as one company gets it, they license it off to as many other companies as possible.
What you're referring to, is the American Cancer Society & other social organizations, which funnel money away from research and spend it on "promoting awareness". Everyone's aware cancer exists, thanks. These organizations do nothing to advance cure research and only detract from it, as well as promote a culture of treatment over cure, and are unfortunately politically powerful in medicine and even government. That's the problem.
Big pharmaceutical definitely awful and out if control, but the pursuit of a general cure is primarily in the hands of researchers and universities and the trouble comes from there being hundreds of kinds of cancers that are all different and a real bitch to figure out.
>>702911539
Speaking as someone who actually knows the folks in the universities studying this I can say you need a good slapping. They don't just sit in a lab waiting for a phone call from some shadowy figure giving them permission to release data. They fucking work hard and if some trenchcoated g man came in to tell them to fuck up their research they'd laugh them out the lab and it'd be all over the media in ten seconds.
>>702911695
there is. it is a hormone that is unique to cancerous tumors that is required for vascularity. it was isolated and patented.
>>702911695
When i see a faggot writing i make a fruit cake.
>>702911225
Fuck off, Randy.
>>702911281
Yes, no matter how dependable the source is because 'poor sheeple me' believes the majorety of people who specialize in a subject i don't know shit about for the sole reason that i know that uneducated people talk shit about other things where i'm able to point out the flaws.
If it's so easy to cure cancer then go out there to a hospital of your choice and show everyone how to cure cancer. Inject gold, or anything - sure some people are desperate enought to try. If it works just like you pretend it does you'll be famous within short time and people will not be able to make this public effectively preventing le evil companies to stop people from using it.
>>702911569
cool story brah.
>>702911801
but what if the lab that made the breakthrough was that of a private company who spent millions on market and social research to guarantee the most possible gain for the least possible risk?
>>702908541
so basically every research department, the government, the FDA, and all the rich people are part of a huge conspiracy to keep the cure for cancer quiet and down, and not even a single person has ever tried to come forward.
And all of this is based on the presumption that they are doing it to make the most amount of money?
k
>>702911855
Wow. Im saying what they are saying is unreliable and shouldnt be listened to. Faggot(illitterate faggot)
>>702908541
If there was actual cure for cancer, they would just sell it for more money than the meds they are selling today.
It happened with hep-C : Gilead found a cure for it. Before Sovaldi/Harvoni, people had to takes meds for their whole life, now they take 12 weeks of treatment and they are cured. This 12 weeks treatment cost 40k+€ and Gilead is making really good money thanks to this.
Any conspiracy theory which involves more than 1000 people keeping a secret is outright bullshit.
>>702911855
....people will not be able *to stop this from going* public....
fucked up a sentence there....
>>702911950
no. just the private company that made the discovery and patented the hormone and the method for isolating it so that nobody else could.
>>702911833
Can you provide some sort of link or reference for that?
>>702909854
Jobs was a health food nut and refused treatments that could have made him live longer.
That being said, there's still no cure
>>702908541
Newb
>>702911801
So your logic is that because you know a tiny fraction of researchers in the field, this applies to every single one of them? It's not a trench coated G-man, it's a "we've decided to not to continue your funding". Are you 12? Last time I checked, scientists had families to support too, so kinda doubtful they would bite the hand that feeds.
>>702911950
But what if I told you, there even is a machine, that cures most types of C?
And it's quite old. Early 80ties.
>>702908891
You will shrink it enough so it can be treated with radiation therapy. It does not cure it.
>>702912005
faggot(faggot)
>>702912042
.... seriously? you want me to provide you with a link to proof of a secret cure for cancer? you fucking idiot. i worked in the industry and i worked in the lab that discovered, isolated and patented it. i didnt read it on some conspiracy blog, i witnessed it with my own eyes.
>>702911933
Its not, its a government university lab filled with young passionate people who work independently and would love to make a name for themselves. Literally thousands of those, independent, private and public.
There is no cure because theres not one tumor that's the same. Theres some pills that maybe if you are lucky can kill the tumor
>>702912101
it cures C?
Does it cure it to C++ or c#?
Don't tell me it cures C to Java...
that would be a shitty cure.
'Affect' is the cause. 'Effect' is the result.
You seem to like knowledge, there's a little more to help you with correct grammar.
Tinfoil hat alert. There is "the other" reason.
That being, what if all of the people, regardless of age did not die from cancers. Say, over the last 50 years. Sure, there would be the other causes of death. But what would the population of the world be if there was a "cure for cancer" 50 years ago? Population control.
>>702912185
incorrect. you can argue against it all you want, youre making claims from the outside while i was one of the assholes helping make sure nobody found out about it or got their hands on it. thats what i get to sleep with at night.
>>702912164
Link the patent then. Those are a matter of public record.
>>702912222
Check'd
>>702908541
As someone who works in Bio/Pharm research it's bullshit. There is no, nor will there ever be a 'cure for cancer', cancer is a complex of so many millions of different abberations of your own cells. They're almost impossible to kill and the best method right now (And likely ever, though refinements to current methods will likely make it less debilitating) is to hit anything growing fast really hard for the shortest period possible so the patient doesn't die. There is no other way. Every cancer is different. Take your tinfoil hat off.
>>702912127
Now we finally understand. Now shut up randy
>>702912083
Yeah because there's no money in being the guy that cured cancer. Your theory involves every single independent lab on Earth all secretly working together. Every single one.
>>702912164
>i worked in the lab that discovered, isolated and patented it
Well then, do explain.
inb4 but i cant because the men in suits, i was sworn to secrecy, illuminati will kills me
Witness me
>>702912247
Ahhh. So you're schizo or a troll. Congrats, you got me russled up.
>>702912306
No further money dipshit. I'm not talking about one guy, in taking about the whole cancer industry.
>>702912222
No C. But the man who build it, got into big trouble.
There once were 22 of them. But they were built that way, that they can't be reversedEngineered.
Once opened never worked again. A pretty clever german guy.
And half of the 22 were placebos and didnt work at all. ;-) Pretty clever.
>>702912164
All us patents are listed on the uspto website. Pretty sure most developed countries have their own version of that
>>702912255
i was never given the patent numbers or the filings, or even the prior art. that was not my job. i knew about it from those who did that aspect of it. i worked in the lab. lab techs do not spend all year compiling a patent submission. the substance of the patent was the method for isolating components of the hormone and the method for assembling it. there is nothing on the patent that says "CURE FOR CANCER"
i get that youre used to playing games with retards so ill forgive you for that but goddamn, this is one of those times you and i were in the right place at the right time. i decided to let this out and you happened to be here. tuck this away into your little mental vault and be satisfied in the knowledge that a little more of the veil over the world was lifted for you today.
>>702912164
And here you are, in all your research scientist glory, raising awareness of it on /b. The bastion of informed, rational discussion amongst the worlds finest intellectuals on the planet. . Just like any well educated scientist with a degree would do.
>>702912395
Creating a treatment/vaccine that will not only be marketable for literally for 6 billion people, but for their kids and their kids for the rest of all time. Yeah, not a fucking cent there.
>>702908541
Here's the 'answer' to your question OP: Paranoia.
A lot of Americans in particular are getting more and more paranoid because their country is run by wealthy people, and that's true. It is in some ways. However, countries with free healthcare use the same treatments as America with the same results, and are still doing better. If you honestly believed that a cure for cancer wasn't being withheld from the public by some greedy, powerful men, you're delusional and ignorant about the rest of the world, and how it works. The greedy bastards wouldn't be doing themselves a favor by keeping a cure for cancer a secret.
Here's a shortcut to facing reality: look up how many people die of cancer each year, and figure out how much they could be earning a country throughout their life instead of either being in treatment or dying young.
You're trying too hard to blame 'them'.
>>702909457
Vaccines will eventually stop producing profit while an incurable disease generates infinite profit. Learn to simple economics mah nigga
>>702908541
moron
>>702912601
This is helpful to the conversation
>>702912571
>>702912499
Ok Mr Intern Anon.
This is delusional. A thought like this is brought out of the idea that humans are all powerful and can fix anything, and that there must be some conspiracy allowing such a dangerous illness to exist. A thought like this is bred out of our extreme fear and denial about death.
If a cure to cancer existed, the fame alone would be reason enough for it to be shared with the world.
Companies and governments suck at keeping secrets, and most liars become exposed eventually.
Cancer is hard to cure because it is our own body behaving abnormally. So anything designed to kill it will most likely kill all our normal cells too. And most people get cancer, but our bodies kill off those abnormal cells. The scary question is why doesn't it sometimes?
>>702912571
Cancer won't just disappear though. We still use polio vaccines.
>>702909118
My aunt work for a cancer research lab, she also had cancer, she was able to cure herself rather quickly using what they came up with. She was murdered along with her other research partners and is deemed a random act of violence. Their lab was shut down and everythibg taken away and burned. This happenedseverytime someone makes a claim for a cure.
>>702910523
>>702910641
>>702910692
>>702910741
>>702910794
>>702910922
Absolutely retarded logic
Anyone agreeing with this is an utter idiot
People buy cigs because they want to smoke
People don't buy cigs because they don't want to smoke
No one cares about getting cancer
>>702912513
go ahead and pat yourself on the back. yeah this place is mostly neckbeards but there are more normies who browse 4chan than you realize. ive lurked here for so long, ive seen so many of these threads... but this is no joke. its not a conspiracy, its as simple as filing a patent and not writing "THIS IS A CURE FOR CANCER" all over it. basic human biology is patented every year by phrama, you think this is somehow impossible for them to pull off? all you have to do is patent a chemical. so long as you dont say "hey guys this little chemical when administered like this totally cures all cancer...."
>>702912543
nice
>>702912703
get ready for school kid.
>>702912679
Yeah but not at near the rate we sling OxyContin and chemotherapy to cancer patients
>>702912717
>nobodies cares about getting cancer
Except all the people who hate that the government has "the" cure for cancer.
>>702912703
this is fantasy.
>>702912499
Lab techs know more than most people, we have a way of finding out information from everyone. Even the people who say they shouldn't discus things.
You're a shit lab tech
what
>>702908541
Yea, reddit is retarded.
Now fuck off back where you came from.
>>702908730
>>702908810
Fuck off shills.
>>702912779
Caught in a landslide, No escape from. Reality.
>>702912780
my aseptic technique will rek u sun
>>702912775
Like I said, a treatment for every person ever or the tiny percentage that currently have cancer. The conspiracy numbers don't work.
>>702912679
only because there are still wild cases of polio. Granted there is only 1 country left where polio hasn't been eliminated but once it has and polio has been declared eradicated then they'll stop using the polio vaccine. The same thing happened with smallpox and rinderpest
>>702912885
Fucking microbio tech? Lowest common denominator techs......
This one time at my job, they couldn't get 5 people to conspire to answer the phone the same way. ITT fucking morons think conspiracies are possible.
>go back to your x-files
>>702912891
Cancer will always be there because it is not a virus. It will pop up and need treatment or there will be a vaccine to prevent it that you'd need to take every ten years with your dumbass kids.
>>702912891
>rinderpest
There was one guy in germany who caught this disease besides beeing on the news quiet frequently.
It was a butcher who drank a soup of boiled cow brains (the most infected part of the cow) for three meals a day. If there was ever someone trying to get it, it was him. It's really not as horrible as the news make it sound...
"tech" is a nice word for robot monkey
>>702912957
prove youre not shit because i demand it.
>>702912724
I'm not questioning the plausibility of it happening. I'm questioning why you seem to think this is a fucking marvelous place to enlighten the world.
"I read it on 4chan.' doesn't exactly exude "holy shit, it must be true then" does it?
So give us all a break and stop pretending you was in with the people who supposedly tried to patent a cure. You're coming off as a lonely, delusional attention whore.
Try bringing this up on multiple newspaper forums in many different countries and see if it takes a foothold. ITMT, your weak tales about it being patented are already being ripped to shreds even on this board.
Good luck, attention seeker.
>>702912880
10/10
>>702913134
you're*
>>702908541
If there was a cure, rich and famous people wouldn't be dying of cancer
Who is reaping these perceived rewards of cancer treatment vs cancer curing? The medical industry. OK, well who is paying all of that money out? Insurance companies.
Insurance companies are NOT making money off of cancer treatment, they are paying for it out the ass. Don't tell me they'd rather pay $190,000 in chemo and treatment versus a $5000 in a series of injections. The amount of money THEY PAY OUT for treatment is equal to the amount of money that you tinfoils think is a $200B a year "industry".
Have you ever tried keeping a secret from your health insurance? Yeah, there's no cure for cancer.
OP here. You faggors are too easy to bait.
>>702913017
Pffft you must work somewhere pretty shit.
Small scale conspiracies are pretty common. Everywhere I've worked has done something that's hidden from customers.
>>702908541
Cancer can be cured through diet. It's the only proper natural way to get rid of the cancer and keep it away, instead of it coming back some years down the line.
Do not follow these quack therapies such as Radiotherapy and Chemotherapy. They do not get to the root cause. The Doctors even allow cancer patients to keep eating awful foods and smoke cigarettes. The Doctors don't have a clue on true health.
I always remember growing up a child and my parents saying things like, "He's a Doctor. He's a very intelligent man.". I've now come to realise that it's a load of bullshit.
>>702913075
It's harmless to humans, but devastating to cattle. During the last century, outbreaks of it wiped out up to 90% of herds. So it made sense to completely wipe it out
This thread is bananas
>>702908541
>Thoughts on this? I want actual intelligent replies as it is quite thought provoking.
Former Medical Physicist and Radiation Oncologist here (lost my job because I turned into a pillhead alcoholic)....I spent years in cancer research and there is no big conspiracy. The problem is that every cancer is different (even those of the exact same type in a different person)
>>702912703
C'mon /b/ you could at least *TRY* to make your story more believable.
>>702908541
>medicine companies want to make a profit, therefore the cure for cancer is made secret
That tin foil hat theory is based on the premise that the whole World's medical market in every nation is:
1) controlled by a "USA-model" of capitalism and pharmaceutical companies don't have to answer to local governments anywhere
2) cancer research is exclusively done by said pharmaceutical companies, and never by public/national research
Otherwise that "let's make it secret so we can make money"-thing wouldn't really work.
Some institution independent of pharmaceutical companies would have found one of those "cures" most likely by now, and even if they hadn't, the laissez faire way in which companies can control the prices of medication in the USA doesn't work in most other nations.
Many western nations (and several nations that aren't "western", too) have a more comprehensive public healthcare system than the USA, meaning that the profits from medications wouldn't come from "helpless" consumers, but from governments who can regulate or even enforce bans on companies with "highway robbery"prices on their medications. "You want to rip off our government's public healthcare resources? Fuck you, we're banning your drug ENTIRELY from our nation, so you won't get a fucking dime from here until you make the price sensible!"
Furthermore, MOST of the people in the world are so poor that they can't be "ripped off" by extravagant medication prices. They simply won't be able to purchase them.
>>702913211
No, you're a faggor
>>702913251
good joke m8...
>>702913219
you completely missed the point. not surprising since you "know" of things hidden from customers. since *you* know about them, they are unimportant.
>>702913251
I like how people like you die alone in tinfoil lined cabins mummified by tumors and loneliness.
>>702913188
you're going to miss the bus. a very short bus.
I cured my cancer by shooting it with a gun. Just goes to show ya all problems can be solved by having guns.
>>702913251
Chemotherapy gets rid of cancer. It doesn't keep it away. And Doctors can't make you do shit about your lifestyle choices.
>>702913333
The fact that he even knows about it proves that people can't keep secrets.
>>702913333
/someone else
People keep shit hidden of customers all the time because they would nag about it even though there's no problem. It does happen.
>>702912571
Cancers are an inherent part of human physiology, not an infectious disease you fucking spastic. Even if there was a vaccine, it would have to be continually administered to every successive generation.
Jesus fucking christ the people that buy into this shit are painfully retarded.
>>702913389
>die alone in tinfoil lined cabins mummified by tumors and loneliness
>>702913514
Actually many cancers are caused by viruses and they have come up with 3 vaccines that prevent 3 types of cancer.
>>702913271
Gwen Stefani pls go
>>702913514
> not an infectious disease
Then why did so many posts in this thread give me cancer?
>>702908541
I work on cancer research. It isn't true.
>>702913271
>>702913598
i don't know why, but i lost
>>702913598
10/10
>>702913606
Actually, it gave you autism. There isn't a cure for that either.
>>702913514
Vaccines prevent the indirect causes of cancer ie the hpv vaccine helping prevent cervical cancer.
>>702913674
Stop giving ppl ur autism, bro
>>702909118
Never heard of the epipen?
There was a doctor that went on the Johnny Carson show that completely exposed aids as a government released virus. He died 28 days later of a heart attack
Zika had been fully contained for over 80 years and has somehow been released back into the public.
There's a little more than tinhat shit going on here
>>702908810
Notice the "Random" in /b/
>>702913722
bro, i only give dubs, no need to thx me
ok, so why are all of these rich and famous people dying from cancer
>>702913684
Just ask Rick Perry
>>702913271
>>702913598
kek'd hard
>>702911248
>how are they supposed to sell that dipshit
Patent.
Basically how all medicine works.
>>702912243
This.
Sure, as long as you're ok with every single person in this conspiracy being bad at maths and business. All it takes is one independent researcher to publish their findings and you go from $200b to $0 instead of $200b to some value for selling the cure.
>>702913562
No you dumbass. Several cancers are highly correlated with certain viruses. They are by no means ONLY caused by these viruses.
Even then, there are literally thousands of different types of cancers. The vast, vast majority (maybe all) have no singular cause. There is no such thing as a "vaccine" for all cancers and there likely never will be.
Idiot.
>>702912703
>happenedseverytime
HAPPENEDSEVERYTIME
>>702909250
Like Steve jobs is worth curing
>>702913795
The next big money's on human enhancement.
>>702913804
You salty Sally, people were just saying there's a link between vaccines and cancer prevention. Are you going to be alone this birthday?
>>702913674
actually there is a cure for autism but the illuminati is keeping that a secret too for obvious reasons it's a brazillion dollar a year indistry and i have it on excellent authority that all of the cures to all ailments and diseases are kept in a secret underground bunker right where they faked the moon landing which is on the underside of the flat earth. you dint hear it from me though, good luck 2u gmen im behind 7 proxy with spoofed mac on a free mcdonalds wifi liking my cheeseburger
>>702913804
He just said some cancers are caused by viruses
He didn't say all cancers are caused by them
You're an absolute fucking dumbfuck that won't ever get a gf
>>702914104
I looked for the page your cheeseburger to like on fb but couldn't find it
>>702914104
#the truth
>>702913998
I'm not sure I see how that relates to whether or not there's a secret cancer cure being held back by illuminati/lizardmen/big pharma/whatever other group supposedly has their shit together so well that they can actually keep things secret for decades when literally nobody else has ever managed that.
>>702914186
Haha pleb you think you can see that sort of content through a normal browser?
>>702914112
Hey my gf is d>>702908541
The truth is what you want to believe. Because at the end of the day you will not have gained anything from posting here
>>702908541
same with aids etc they don't want a cure
they are not looking for a cure their only looking for better treatments. WAy to much money to be made, unless they can sell the cure for millions per dose #itsnotgoingtohappen
>>702914018
>>702914112
My initial comment was replying to someone suggesting that vaccines will eventually stop making money. He then replied to my comment, so I assumed it was the same person.
I'm not the idiot because you can't follow a basic conversation chain.
>>702914373
True
>>702914373
They can and do only sell it to the rich.
>>702914186
>>702914313
id gief you's the link but it on deeperweb custom nodes. found it on flashdrive on a rothschilds dumpster dive. it blow ur mind, need to go into hibernation after reading. a real whopper
>>702914356
it's still retarded to believe in things that are objectively speaking wrong
>1+1=3 xxxDDDD
Well, hey guise, at least if it is true we can trust one of these fine, honest individuals. Cuz they care about us.
>>702910703
>file name says eddie murphie
>shows a picture of carl wethers
Keep trying kiddo.
>>702914533
Yeah, that's why nobody rich ever dies of cancer. Solid theory you've got there, no possible way you could ever gather evidence against it.
>>702914533
why are rich people dying from these diseases then
>>702914624
>file name says monkey
>shows a picture of monkey
I see no problem
>>702914628
Trump rules. #dicksoutforharambe
>>702908541
As someone who is a pharmaceutical researcher, the amount of money it costs to develop a drug, before trials begin and then the amount of money the companies would have to pay to researchers/lab technicians/associated research staff and so on just to keep them quiet.... no, such cures have not been developed. Think of then money a company could make selling a cure for even a relatively obscure for of cancer. There is no cure all for cancer anyway, there are different types of cancers and each type would require a different cure.
>>702914628
Only familys like the rockafellas and rothchilds are in to get the cures. Some basic bitch rich guy wont get it cause hes not part of those small chain of familys.
>>702910110
Using a gun, u mean?
>>702914611
wow, when I was in hs I used to pose with road kill and stuff to be edgy, but im a neckbeard spergking, them bitches are fucked in the head and I bet they would all partake in ass2mouth
>>702914807
Ah, so by "sell to the rich", you mean "sell to the people who are the most likely to own the companies making the cure in the first place". I don't think you know what selling is.
>>702912717
of course you fucking idiot, but he was referencing the fact that smoking would appeal to a larger market if it didn't have negative connotations. Also, how many people do you know that have quit smoking/ discouraged others from doing it because of cancer? obviously without consequences smoking would be way more attractive.
Go shove a broken glass bottle up into
your colon anon.
Exactly. Thats why a secret would never exsist. They would fund an unaccounted project for the indiviual involved. Cure and dispose of the product. Is it so crazy to believe these people to use there means to make a cure ( for the short term)
>>702911324
Beware of tha mighty rotten fish smell !
>>702908541
...and Steve Jobs took all of them! ...oh, wait.
>>702908541
>Hollywood assholes leak for lulz sake
>offshore scandals are discovered by bypassing journalists
>sceintists cannot dump cure for cancer into the internet because of muh establishment
>>702908541
steel memes can't melt cancer beams, gub'munt against us all, lerminati! line your hat with tin foil and don't brush your teefus's cause ah flooride! '
WAKE UP SHEEPLE. I AM FUCKING NEO FROM THE MATRIX AND EVERYONE IS STUPID BUT ME WHY DOES NOBODY GET IT?!
If there was a cure that was somehow "blocked" then pharma companies wouldn't still be dumping billions of dollars into research and development for it. They'd have given up knowing that if they found something that it would be blocked also. Proof that if they are still searching for it - it hasn't been found yet.
Cancer is such a broad range of ailments, saying there's "cures for cancer" is practically meaningless. Differnt treatments are effective for different cancers, just like different anti biotics are better for other infections.
Researchers and billionairs still die of cancer, or lose friends and families. I medicine profitable? Yeah, it can be. But hell, if one pharmaceutical company unlocked a cure for all of them they'd knock out the market and leave the others in their dust.
This line of thinking is common amongst anti-vax lunatics.
>>702908541
It's probably also true that there are car engines that run on water that go just as fast as using gasoline
>>702910545
You're making the world a better place anon. Don't let the cunts get you down.
>>702910195
I see what you did there..
>there are multiple cures for cancer
Well, yes. Doesn't mean they're being suppressed - hell, there are lots of people who get cured of cancer these days. There just isn't any magic bullet that will cure any cancer, because it's not a single disease. Each type of tissue has different kinds of cancer that can afflict it and even within the types there's a lot of variation that comes down to your own genome and which specific mutations are causing it.
>>702910195
As long as the bad cells pay for it
>>702910545
Anon with a brain tumor. I don't know if you're telling the truth but you're trying to make life easier for people like myself if you are. Even if nothing gets done in my lifetime it's just nice to know people are putting in the effort
>>702908541
>Thoughts on this?
Do dich people die from cancer? Steve Jobs did.
So no, there is no cure for cancer and there is no conspiracy.
>>702909815
>cancer itself is exactly the same
It's not, though. Even within the same tissue there are often multiple different kinds of cancer, and even within those kinds there may be different mutations at work.
Bump limit
The best cure is prevention.
I wear a tinfoil hat so the CIA can't transmit cancer into my brain from teh satelites. Fuck'n NASA man...
