The "deep web" (TOR specifically) is a load of fucking shit.
Finally took the plunge recently to see what the hype was about.
Firstly, it's tiny. There's literally fuck all on there. Kept going back to the same links and pages, even just randomly clicking away.
Secondly, nothing works. 95% of links are dead.
I was worried about clicking on something I didn't want to see, and getting arrested or something, but I needn't have bothered. I ended up getting annoyed and just clicking any shit, even if I wasn't sure, and nothing of any note or worth came up.
Found a few drugs sites - dodgy looking as fuck, little/no choice, and even then (surprise surprise) the sites were broken so I couldn't have ordered anything if I wanted to.
TL;DR - The "deep web" is just a stupid fucking troll//myth made up to intrigue people who've never bothered. It's the internet equivalent of some high school guys telling some kids there's porn magazines hidden in the woods.
People who want to find drugs and cheese pizza know exactly where to get it.
Everyone else fucks right off, cause most people don't care/don't want to go there.
Tor ain't shit anymore, because everyone knows the feds are watching it now.
Fuck off, newfag.
Like me, most people go there out of curiosity. Also like me, people are looking to see if the drugs thing is really worth it. It isn't.
Partly in response to you, and partly in response to this idiot (>>702902674) how are people meant to find these drugs sites? Just magically know the .onion address? Have it telepathically transmitted to them?
There's not even a working TOR search engine.
Was going to put this in the original post, but this isn't bait. Seriously, it's just exasperation and amusement at how people fall for this shit.
I suppose it makes sense - people would like to think there's some magical wild-west hidden internet out there. There simply isn't though.
You obviously don't know what you're looking for. It's easy to find stuff if you know where to go. I always recommend getting in some contact with people who can direct you where to go and invite you to sites. Id frequently be invited to Red Rooms and use to partake in them regularly.
Yeah, that's one of the main reasons I was scared to even use TOR. I was worried clicking a random link would turn out to be pedo shit, and I don't want to see that nor be arrested.
It amazes me anyone used TOR for the kind of thing - you might as well write to the feds and tell them what you're doing. I now assume that was also a myth.
The only reason the feds were able to crack down on tor was due to them lucking out. They caught some idiots who fell for honeypots/something stupid, searched their comps and found the sites. The rest is history.
I never got caught, but then i only viewed it. I never joined or shared content.
Yep, looked on there. One of the first places I looked for links in fact. A load of shit. Most broken, the rest were just awful. Like a Soviet supermarket days before the union fell.
This backs up my point perfectly. Anyone with the slightest bit of knowledge knows Red Rooms are a myth. Yet it's a nice little story to get people interested. It perpetuates the myth. Clever.
>It's easy to find stuff if you know where to go.
Again, how? Magically have addresses beamed to your brain?
my face when i hear ten year olds talking about this shit
i checked it out and it was shit a few years ago. just softcore cp and silkroad. didn't trust buying drugs and i hate babies/little kids
i was expecting a whole bunch of cool shit like live murders and stuff but nothing
pics or it didn't happen
N e w f a g
You know that 99% of the deep web is server data? random billions of page that look like a monkey on a keyboard?
and it's still 95+% of the entire internet.
You also don't just click links you faggot
You have to know where you're going first before you go. You nigger.
lemme just expand a bit on your image
normal internet that we all know
>deep web links that you can find on the normal web
internet that neckbeards think they know about, majority are broken links since a lot of people have gotten busted because anyone with half a braincell and a tor engine can visit these sites
Links you cannot find on fucking pastebin you fucking retard
This is exactly my point. The "deep web" is just random data, nothing interesting.
TOR is just a tiny part of that, perpetuated as some underground secret internet, but it it's largely just dead links and nothing interesting.
All private networks not accessible from the internet are by definition called the deep web and therefore yes, the deep web makes up a huge part of the "internet", educate before you debate.
Again, exactly my point.
As for these "links" you can't find on pastebin - if more than about 3 people were aware of these links, they'd be all over the internet, TOR and clearnet. So even even if there are super-secret links that no-one knows about, they won't contain anything because of the very fact no-one knows about them.
I was talking specifically about TOR you retards, hence why I said TOR in my OP and put "deep web" in quotes, because I know when 99% of people say "deep web" they mean TOR.
I know the real deep web is vast, but as we've said, it's just stacks of data that is meaningless to people.
To fucking spell it out to you idiots -
The notion that TOR (incorrectly but normally referred to as the "Deep Web") is a treasure-trove of drugs, porn, assasins, and all sorts of dodgy and dark shit, is a TOTAL myth. There is NOTHING of any note or worth on there.
>they won't contain anything because of the very fact no-one knows about them.
Do you honestly think that there aren't groups of people around that can't keep a secret?
Really, 3 people? I think you have a misconception that the only thing on there is cp, drugs and online marketplaces.
You realise how much of the traffic is from countries like Iran/Saudi/etc? The tool was built by the government in the first place, what use did you think they had for it?
>The notion that TOR (incorrectly but normally referred to as the "Deep Web") is a treasure-trove of drugs, porn, assasins, and all sorts of dodgy and dark shit, is a TOTAL myth. There is NOTHING of any note or worth on there.
Yes, that is correct. There is also i2p and Freenet but I don't believe they are doing any better
OP is butthurt because he doesn't know how to deepweb, and got as far as the hidden/noob wiki
if you know what you're doing, deep web is an endless and sometimes terrifying journey..
Supposedly there is sites with live feeds (with chat) where people pay to watch a person get tortured and killed. It's like twitch tv for snuff. There is stories floating around but I've never run into any evidebce of it. I don't doubt that one probably existed (people are horrible by nature) but I've never seen any direct proof
Err, read my responses. I'm saying that the misconception most people have that it is cp, drugs, and marketplaces is a myth.
As for secret communication - yes, I get that is a use for things like Tails, TOR, and other end-to-end encrypted communication that leaves no trace.
In some instances this is good (allowing people living under oppressive regimes to communicate) and in some ways it is bad (allowing terrorist to plot shit).
Of course, this only works in shithole countries like Libya where the government are useless, hence the Arab Spring being planned without them knowing. In an advanced country like the US or UK, the government would intercept that shit, hence why terrorists keep getting busted - a good thing too.
But that's off the point - my point is that TOR is not some treasure trove of drugs and guns and secret societies. Yet plenty of fuckwits think it is.
the whole point of these sites is, they don't want newfags like you visiting, if you have a contact and know what you're doing there is some really crazy shit to see.. you will never see it with your noob attitude though
It's funny how people believe this shit and automatically think "yeah, the deep web is all secret and shit, that sort of horrible stuff must be on there" but on THIS VERY FORUM there is currently a rekt thread where you can see that exact sort of shit many times over.
Watching videos of someone getting killed isn't illegal you know?
There's also a story of a hacker who managed to hack a red room website without permission. The funny thing is he got caught in the end and had to destroy his whole server, crypt, everything and move out. It's kinda easy for a user to get hacked these days. It's all about forensic shit which I think it's kinda pretty cool.
there is a key difference, with random clips on the net you're just seeing a relay of data which exists. through red rooms, you're actively participating with and funding a real death/torture, not just seeing a relay of it sometime later
Torch is a load of shit and brings up nothing.
The Hidden Wiki (all versions) are just full of 90% broken links, and the ones that do work are utter shit you couldn't fool a 10 year old with.
Well if it were true, there's not much difference there for the end user. Seeing someone get killed in real time or on a recording is still not nice. Most of us are accustomed to it due to seeing that shit regularly on the internet, but you get my point.
Anyway, can everyone shut the fuck up about Red Rooms now. We know what they allegedly are, we know they don't exist, and we know only a retard thinks they're real.
Until someone comes up with a screenshot or a video, that's how it will remain, so stop with this bullshit.
I did not even read whole thread, but I claim that OP is faggot of faggots.
Going on onion and expecting to find "hidden content" just by clicking on links is extremely stupid attitude. On the other hand, if this made you think that there is nothing on tor, it worked just fine. We do not need more idiots here.
It is a joke. All things illegal and legal can be found on the surface web, it's just a matter of hunting for what you want. Craigslist is possibly the shadiest website around and no one bats an eye at that. But I think the shroud of mystery & secrecy makes it sound more menacing and visceral.
Mfw watching newfag arguing. Deep web is not for you. Go back tu reddit
>Calling them Red Rooms.
God dammit guys can you not try to be cool? Nobody, follow me on this, NOBODY calls them Red Rooms.
Who the FUCK would? The only people who know what a "Red Room" is are people who have never been invited to one. That'd be like calling your friend in the middle of the sidewalk on your phone and being like "Hey can I come over to your place to do crystal meth with you?"
Nobody would fucking be that stupid about it.
I don't know who started calling them "Red Rooms", but damn it pisses me off. They didn't have name, nobody ever asked anybody if they wanted in a "Red Room". You know what the question that was actually asked back in 2004~2008 was?
"Wanna see something?", "There's a webcam up you should see.", "I found another one of those fucked up ones, wanna come with?"
I really doubt the language has changed much since then.
You are literally retarded. TOR was developed by the feds for agents to use with out getting tracked. It has to be anonymous by nature for people that use it otherwise it becomes useless as a tool for hiding government agents Web traffic
Actually there's quite a difference psychologically. If you are funding for/against certain punishments, you will pathologically assume some degree of responsibility. You are torturing them by proxy, essentially.
Sure it's not true for everyone, but most people would experience this to some degree.
Additionally having it live brings up questions of IF it's real or not. Rekt threads tell you what will happen before you even go into them. These kind of rooms would have no significant limits on what could happen and requests would be highly common.
It's not hard to track and find out someone's identity even if they're using TOR and being very fucking careful.
How do you think sites like the Silk Road got shut down and the owners arrested? They weren't some stupid kids logging onto TOR using the family computer with Java and all sorts still running. They were pros running a multi-million dollar business who took extreme efforts to stay untraceable. Yet when the feds decided to go after them, it was a piece of cake.
Thanks for you laughs OP, you're good for one thing
So far in this thread, there's three types of people -
1. People who understand what I'm saying and agree.
2. Autists who get all defensive about their precious TOR without reading the fucking thread.
3. Morons like you who don't understand the topic.
What an interesting summary anon. Wow. You really are clever. Here, take some loli for your effort, after all, we could not live without this game changing discovery.
If that were the case then there is no way it would have stayed up for so long with so few arrests. I certainly wouldn't trust the post-Silk Road marketplaces though, now the government knows what is up
Tor used to be more accessible without much of a learning curve in terms of finding and accessing content. There was a video hosting site that had nothing but hardcore cp (and lots of it) that was very popular up until a lot of the sites were busted and it had direct links from the hidden wiki, which was indexed on clearnet via tor2web and other sites like that. The fact that you can't find anything relevant is just a symptom of the large busts and people being more careful. It's just like the death of p2p.
You are obviously pretty new. Silk Road got shut down cause they tracked history of owner to the very beggining where he was hiring programmers to help him with account that was linked to his real identity. That was only reason, historic post that was forgotten.
h0000ly shit mate
OK, this makes sense.
The entire thread and premise makes sense now.
Looks like I'll stick to buying drugs from dealers. Was hoping to find a good source for steroids on there, but there's plenty of clearnet sources that check out too. A little less anonymity but I'll take the risk.
>whole purpose of this thread is so OP can gather info on the derpwebz cause he's too much of a pussy to do it himself
Ur worse than those WoW Pserver advertiser that start a WoW thread saying, "It's just not the same..."
Not always. If they're trying to get informants, they won't publicize the arrest of small players because it would compromise them before the LEA got their info and hit their big fish. It also puts their targets' guard up which means increased security.
all of the og reals kush is gone and if you can even read this fucking reply just know that you get it another way, you spoilt pre fuck.
There are human fucking beings who live lives where everything is lies. They don't get to know real information their whole lives. Sure, people are nice enough, but that's just not enough for me.
Ulbricht got caught because the trace he made on clearnet. He advertised silkroad on some forum and feds found that, also he posted his email once but with his name so he made a mistake and feds found him.. Also feds performed correlation attacks (he was only one in a specific region of San Francisco at the time and his IP trace on clearnet led to San Francisco so he was an easy target) he gainet heat when his bussines risen to millions scale.
Some people would just rather not have to deal with a scumbag to get their drugs. The drugs are also of a higher quality online in my experience.
But yeah, sheltered people use these markets too. Nothing wrong with that either; different strokes for different folks.
Obviously you were not invited, because you have nothing to offer other than your teenage angst. Stay edgy edgelord and fuckeep off. Don't waste your time waiting for the invitation, it won't be cusing anytime soon just like your grill friend who friend zoned you.
The deep web is a ton of encrypted data that the public cant access easily. Places do exist that will only grant you access if and ONLY if you understand networking. The general "Deep web" term has been twisted by newfags as an underground marketplace - and while those do exist as well, its a tiny portion of the web.
The "Endless" word is probably used to describe how long it can take sometimes looking through dead link after dead link, finding one that works, and occasionally coming across something as simple as an email address. you send one out to it, and a guy responds after a week saying you're on a mainling list, and they want you to connect to X Ip using X proxy via an anonymous connection, and that the site will exist at that domain for 5 days, then go offline, change server over the next few days, and then you get a similar email. Why the fuck do you think so many links are dead? They're indexed and then they dont exist anymore. Those guys wont put an easy "Hey we moved" like people on the consumer web. Its things like if they dont see your login for a week you're off the list and you go back to looking for one of these little leads.
And yes the "Deep web" can be terrifying to some as well. Some guy wanders into it, comes across a newly indexed site, and its some chatroom under the guise of satanism. Worth a little chuckle especially when you realize that there are actual people there talking about wanting to burn down said church. Now, say this guy is a dumbass and doesnt notice that he's had a file transferred over to his documents becasue this guy, thinking he's cool is using windows 98 or some outdated shit with known security holes or just hasnt updated his OS in years because they're using a badly pirated version of it. Unlikely but possible. Now lets say this file is a keylogger, and it goes unnoticed for a while. guy types his social into a loan website. Bam, I'd say the repercussions are pretty terrifying...
My point is, The deepweb is there, its just not what you think, and yes, shitty stuff happens out there, things go dead faster then harry potter can say quidditch... and theres not much you can see with just a basic knowledge of how it works. Oftentimes they're temporary domains where access is via mailing list...
I know a few people who ordered off Silk Road when it was up and running.
Most got nothing, just lost their money. One or two got the gear, but it was utter fucking shit.
One guy got a letter of HMRC saying they'd seized a package at the border, and could he provide info as to whether he requested it, and if so where from. He ignored it and heard nothing else.
Let aside the question if they exist or not but:
How is it done on the technical side?
Do you have a seperate browser for this and if so you cant use it on a live system.
TORs bandwidth is far too worse for streaming let alone a redroom-livestream.
Read a dictionary - the deepweb is content that is not indexed by search engines or linked-to elswhere on the internet. By definition you're not going to find the deepweb on a search engine or an index site you stupid fuck.
just find me a place I can buy weed without bitch coins. thank you c: <3
>Deep web ≠ dark web
>non-indexed ≠ darknet
Learn your shit before you shitpost, OP.
>and yeah, I took the bait
>because I'm Jewish and anything free is good including bait.
I can just imagine how well that would go...
Anon: H-hey Mr Black Guy...
Nigger: Sup homie, what you want?
Anon: C-can I have some d-drugs please?
Nigger: Sure dude, what you after?
Anon: Um... the illegal kind?
Nigger: You serious? You a cop or som'ing?
dude, you want to get weed, go to your local pizza joint, chat with the people working there for a while, look for the middle aged drivers that look too content with the job, say whatsup when you can and if you get to chatting, just casually ask if he knows someone to get pot from, hand him some cash. if the dude doesnt pay you back go up to his boss and tell them you saw him smoking a pipe in his car while making a delivery by your house - teach him to cheat you.
Seriously.... Everyone in the pizza business smokes- because thats a job that only drug tests if you get into an accident.