The earth is FLAT.
Try and prove me wrong. Go ahead, I'm waiting.
> pro tip, you literally cannot
I personally met the former Commander of the ISS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Kopra
My little brother is friends with his kid and I sat next to him at a wrestling match. He kek'ed heartily when I asked him what he thought of flat earthers.
"Can't orbit a disc."
Satellite internet is a thing. The service requires a dish pointed towards an object in orbit near the equator. If the earth is flat, there is no equator, and no satellites, so two-way satellite communications would be impossible. But they are not, because they are in use as you read.
i think the earth is also flat...i just took a huge red pill
I've never understood flat earthers. I mean what pea the government gain in wasting all this money just to convince us a lie that doesn't really affect our daily lives anyway?
>haha we pranked you guys real good xDDDDD
Flat earthers are a meme at best.
>There's a huge ice-wall at the edge(s) of the Earth
>no photographic or otherwise proof of this.
>every star, planetoid, planet, and other celestial body in the Universe is round or generally round
>except Earth, which is shaped like a disk and is being pushed 'upward' through space for some reason.
>In general, we at the Flat Earth Society do not lend much credibility to photographic evidence.
The earth is indeed flat. Don't beleive bs NASA photoshopped pictures and holograms. Just look in fucking front of you ffs. Look at the fucking horizon. It's fucking flat. Go in a fucking plane. Look down, it's also fucking flat.
>inb4 earth appears as a sphere if in a rocket ship
Again, unless I'm in the fucking ship it self then I won't beleive it, as I said, don't fall for NASA shit.
Why is Earth flat, but nothing else is?
Nah mate, acquire a friend up or down in your hemisphere and ask them to measure a 1m tall pole at a given time. Do the same at your point and compare the length. Fucking Greeks proved the Earth was round with this shit.
The burden of proof is not placed upon those listening to the claim,
the burden of proof is upon those making the claim
>there is a toaster in orbit around the sun
this statement is almost impossible to disprove but the claimer has no evidence to back up set claim
I live beside lake superior, if the world is flat I should be able to see the other side.
Therefore the world is not flat and the other side curves beneath the horizon
No one is addressing these.
You're saying space isn't real?
And you were stuck in a spaceship together for at least a few months?
Here's one I took using the camera on the ISS
dont have the video lol just saved these a while ago
Do you have anything to support this theory (that space and everything therein is false)?
You fucking cuck, early sailors would have noted the huge ass fucking wall if the earth was actually flat.
>inb4 a plate planet would literally break every law of physic and space
you're going off the assumption that the flat earth map you have is the correct layout of the entire earth
yeah, and they do, fuckin antarctica. no one has gone past it, nor even around it.
>The earth is FLAT.
>Try and prove me wrong. Go ahead, I'm waiting.
>> pro tip, you literally cannot
We're all being deceived by a Cartesian evil demon right now. In fact there is no Earth.
Try and prove me wrong. Go ahead, I'm waiting.
>pro tip, you literally cannot
Wow, you are stupid. Gravity pulls towards the center of the ball. The end of the river (the ocean, for example) is closer to the center of the ball (lower) than the start of the river. No matter how long a river is it is not going to go uphill anymore than the water is going to fall off the bottom of a bloody globe!
well space is real, but not the exact measurements or infinite nature/vastness and whatever you can't see with your own eyes isn't actually there. nasa claims we can't even get past the radiation field around earth so anything past it is just quite literally fairy tale.
but the space ship is curved. the lens is distorted so i can't take that picture as fact.
>astronaut is hard work i was busy
Look at this. In space even Soyuz and Progres looks majestically
So basically, if you can't see it, it doesn't exist. That's your 'logic.'
And also, the 'radiation field' is why we have various types of telescopes that can see bodies many hundreds of billions of miles away.
It's still pretty early in the semester. I suggest you sign up for an intro to Astronomy course.
howcome infrared lasers can go for hundreds of miles on sea level and locate ships?
yes, and the nazis were onto something before their regime got destroyed. they knew what was up by the false phony jews promoting sphere earth. and yeah, there are researchers on antarctica, but the actual wall is thousands of miles thick
>thousands of miles thick
>not muh dick
but they did
and your logic is because science books and "experts" tell you so, so it must be true? if they have telescopes that can see billions of miles away, why are those only accessible to space programs? i've taken astronomy and i realized how much BS was in it, it seemed like its own religion
>>we can't even get past the radiation field
Except we have. The Van Allen belts are not so intense as to cook us instantaneously, we had shielding, and we were going pretty damn fast. Total exposure was equal to about ten x-rays.
>"The van Allen belts are regions above the Earth's surface where the Earth's magnetic field has trapped particles of the solar wind. An unprotected man would indeed get a lethal dose of radiation, if he stayed there long enough. Actually, the spaceship traveled through the belts pretty quickly, getting past them in an hour or so. There simply wasn't enough time to get a lethal dose, and, as a matter of fact, the metal hull of the spaceship did indeed block most of the radiation."
How about space X? There's plenty of private space companies it's just expensive as fuck and not a lot of money to be made that's why nasa only gets about .7% of Americas federal budget
Also look at the moon buddy
You don't even need textbooks or science courses; buy a telescope, go outside on a clear night, and use that telescope to see for yourself. The reason those high-powered scopes are only accessible to space programs is simple: those are the only people who are educated enough to handle and properly use them. Would you really have any random Tom, Dick, Harry, Jane, or Catniss using such a fine piece of machinery just to look into their neighbors' living rooms? I ask, because that's exactly what would happen. The average troglodyte doesn't understand science, and is thus, terrified by it.
And if you got THAT out of an Astronomy course, you were probably better suited for Sociology anyway.
Undeniable, the earth is a perfect sphere, hered one way your peanut brain might understand.
two sticks in different position of the earth will produce two shadows of different misure, on a flat surface two sticks will produce two equal shadows.
Prove me wrong
exactly, that roundness isn't even to scale , but look at the curvature of the vessel, it curves UPwards while the earth curves DOWNwards. that's camera tricks and/or photoshop
> Try and prove me wrong
You have it backwards, dingus. You have to prove your claim first.
But you're probably some religious retard, so your entire world view is built on, "I don't need evidence! I don't have to prove I'm right! You have to prove I'm wrong! So there!"
That child-like mentality is probably why you believe in a sky daddy. It's certainly the reason you believe in something as catastrophically retarded as a flat Earth.
In other words, you took an introductory science class and still could not understand the material because it was outside your personal understanding of the world.
Your beliefs have already cemented and are impervious to change regardless of the evidence provided.
You also, somehow, are so incredibly intelligent that you figured out something that billions of other people haven't figured out, even the genius class of scientists and mathematicians.
To quote the great Doctor Gregory House: "You're an idiot."
Not a flat earther but you can't actually see the curvature of the earth until you leave the atmosphere. That Red Bull skydiver a few years back wasn't event high enough to see it--the perceived curve was from a fisheye lens.
But of course earth is a sphere, only a retard would think otherwise.
you don't think the department of defense uses these high powered telescopes to look into our houses? nah they just tap our phones. it was a religion class. maybe it was my professor but she was dogmatic.
It's called hills, faggot.
>on a flat surface two sticks will produce two equal shadows.
not if the sun is closer than the """billions""" of lightyears you rounders claim.
no, the class just passed off too many things as fact, and the teacher would ONLY insult you when you asked legitimate questions. why does an astronomy teacher/expert have to defend her trade so hard?
>they're using xray and radiation TELESCOPES to look into our houses and tap our phones!
I seriously hope you're being facetious at this point. Regardless, you're drawing a false equivalency by citing the DoD, because it has nothing to do with Astronomy. Even if you're joking, this kind of thinking is very dangerous to have in the 21st or any century.
>Earth, a la V'ger.
I know it's not flat, I'm not an idiot, but every now and then (especially whilst stoned) I often wonder if there's more to the world than we know..
Stuff like a mini continent in the Pacific reserved for only the super rich or the distance between sayyyy Ireland and New York is only about 200 miles, but people say it's 1000s for secret reasons
Like, we take a lot of stuff at face value as facts, but how many of us have sailed the earth and can say it's so big or been to every country and confirmed it's real not just a huge government base or something like that
Anyone else ever think shit like that?
No it's not it's a wide angle lense retard the earth is too round for it too just curve up dramatically a shit ton but the ISS being just flat only curves up a little bit
Pic related picture I took of my flat bookshelf using a wide angle lense see how it curves?
No I mean charged you can say loaded but that vague and can mean many things like l there's bullets in the magazine but none in the chamber but if you say a gun is charged that means there's a round in the chamber
No because those ideas are literally stupid.
>An animal being this incredibly efficient at covering up absolutely HUGE secrets forever
Sure some stuff is shady let's not kid ourselves but not everything is malicious like rich people being inherently evil'
so if we are arguing a SHAPE of something, you cannot prove it with a picture where the SHAPE is altered.
well, people would ask questions all the time, and she'd shoot them all down without answering it. and one time while discussing stars and their births and the big bang , i asked if the big bang could have been started by a higher force and she just flat out told me God isn't real next question.
Objects in orbit are, more or less, in a constant fall, but are moving forward with enough velocity that it keeps missing. A plane has to counter wind resistance and the stronger pull of gravity at the lower altitudes which they fly, which is why they must have continuous thrust. It appears level because the pull of gravity is constant regardless of point around the circle.
Ahah i made this about a meter away with my flashlight.
This image on your wiki suggests that the sun shines his light in a cone, which is retarded.
Also, if the earth were flat, ni matter how far or close the sun would be, everyone would alwayd be able to see the sun, which is not the case. Explain faggots.
Referring to using a lense as "altering" a photo is retarded and wrong
See my bookshelf is flat and it appeared to be rounded by using a wide angle lense
i'd say there's more to that and you should do more digging yourself. look, i didn't believe in flat earth up until recently, and it's only because the more evidence i look for, the more it points to tht the earth is NOT what we think it is.
So you went into a *science* class and started asking *philosophical* questions. Got it.
Should have asked what the prevailing theories are as to what caused the theoretical "Big Bang". She might have responded with the dimensional collapse theory, the cosmic heart beat (Big Crunch followed by Big Bang ad infinitem)
Beyond that it sounds like you just had hurt feelings because she dismissed God all together.
Not if you checked the chamber and came to the conclusion that it's cleared but up until that point a gun is always loaded but if you look in the chamber and it's empty the gun is not loaded and I don't care who you aim it at because it will not fire but any matter a gun with a bullet in the chamber is referred too as charged
The discovery that the Earth is a little world was made, as to many important human discoveries were, in the ancient Near East, in a time some humans call the third century BC, in the greatest metropolis of the age, the Egyptian city of Alexandria. Here there lived a man named Eratosthenes. One of his envious contemporaries called him "Beta," the second letter of the Greek alphabet, because, he said, Eratosthenes was second best in the world in everything. But it seems clear that in almost everything Eratoshtenes was "Alpha."
He was an astronomer, historian, geographer, philosopher, poet, theater critic and mathematician. He was also the director of the great library of Alexandria, where one day he read in a papyrus book that in the southern frontier outpost of Syene, at noon on June 21 vertical sticks cast no shadows. On this the summer solstice, the longest day of the year, shadows of temple columns grew shorter. At noon, they were gone. The sun was directly overhead.
It was an observation that someone else might easily have ignored. Sticks, shadows, reflections in well, the of the Sun - of what possible importance could simple everyday matters be? But Eratosthenes was a scientist, and his musings on these commonplaces changed the world; in a way, they made the world. Eratosthenes had the presence of mind to do an experiment, actually to observe whether in Alexandria vertical sticks cast shadows near noon on June 21. And, he discovered, sticks do.
Eratosthenes asked himself how, at the same moment, a stick in Syene could cast no shadow and a stick in Alexandria, far to the north, could cast a pronounced shadow. Consider a map of ancient egypt with two vertical sticks of equal length one stuck in Alexandria, the other in Syene. Suppose that, at a certain moment, each stick casts no shadow at all. This is perfectly easy to understand - provided the Earth is flat. The Sun would then be directly overhead. If the two sticks cast shadows of equal length, that also would make sense of a flat Earth: the Sun's rays would then be inclined at the same angle to the two sticks. But how could it be that at the same instant there was no shadow at Syene and a substantial shadow at Alexandria?
The only possible answer, he saw was, that the surface of the Earth is curved. Not only that: the greater the curvature, the greater the difference in the shadow lengths. The Sun is so far away that its rays are parallel when they reach the Earth. Sticks placed at different angles to the Sun's rays cast shadows of different lengths. For the observed difference in the shadow lengths, the distance between Alexandria and Syene had to be about seven degrees along the surface of the Earth; that is, if you imagine the sticks extending down to the center of the Earth, they would there intersect at an angle of seven degrees. Seven degrees is something like one-fiftieth of three hundred and sixty degrees, the full circumference of the Earth. Eratosthenes knew that the distance between Alexandria and Syene was approximately 800 kilometers, because he hired a man to pace it out. Eight hundred kilometers times 50 is 40000 kilometers: so that must be the circumference of the Earth. This is the right answer. Eratosthenes' only tools were sticks, eyes, feet and brains, plus a taste for experiment.
Look flatties, at this point, you're just flat out wrong. Any sane person viewing the evidence at this point would flatly refuse to continue such a stupid debate. As of now, your argument has been knocked flat on it's ass. Unless you can find a new piece of compelling evidence, it seems your theory has flatlined.
>Earth from space
Then why is the sunlight coming through from a single light point? If the sun was 93 million miles away the rays would be flat
that video didn't, but the military does use infrared lasers to find enemy ships miles and miles away. lasers can only go in a straight line. the fact tht they cannot see the ships but can detect them through infrared lasers should show tht sea level is flat as fuck and never really curves
If the earth is flat....what's under it?
humans are so stupid. I mean, back then when people believed earth was flat, they had these beautiful wooden ships with tall masts that sailors also used as a spotting location. If the earth was flat why would you need to get to a higher position to increase your view range?
liar? what would i need to lie for? you think i wanna promote false truths? one of my earliest let downs was when i was a kid, i never saw the earth curve from up above even though my dad told me it would curve.
well she did mention those theories and i said well what if God just made it happen out of nothing? she just said God isn't real.
Idk maybe the ISS has multiple light sources so it can properly take photographs or maybe it is just a government conspiracy that has been debunked by hundreds of scientist so instead you guys come here where it's easy to find weak subjects to troll with your false arguments that they can't prove false because they aren't educated on the subject
Tfw round earth is scientific fact so everything going on in this thread is just hypothetical
That doesn't make any sense. If 'hell' would be there, what's keeping it stable/contained?
Why the fuck do you think the radar mast is so fucking high? That is what makes a difference. Put a camera up there and do the same thing. Put it a few feet off the water and you want see shit. Don't be so dumb.
Thats how conpiraces works. They conivince uneducated people with pseudo-science, and """"evidences"""" that can be easly busted but this require knowlege with you don't have. Im not gonna tell you to do diging. I'm gonna tell you to educate yourself or talk with some profesor in nearest university.
not necessarily. either way i'm still not 100% convinced it is flat. i just think it's way more plausible that it isn't flat. i think only a small minority of people are trying to deceive us and most people just think it is round.
Why the fuck did they stop in Alaska? On a round Earth it doesnt make sense, but on the UN logo (flat earth) map it does
i have, they ONLY tell me that it's what they believe and they just trust NASA. they don't even get into the math of it , and the little math they do get into, it isn't relevant enough to disprove a flat earth.
What's keeping the dirt together? Also, where did it come from?
Look at this jet flying at a cruise altitude of 35,000+ feet. If the earth was flat it would not appear as if it were flying straight up into space. All has to do with the plane's height and distance from the observer.
This is introductory Astronomy with a hint of introductory Geology. OP's 'theory' doesn't live up to either.
North hemisphere, this shit happens spinning around polaris. Which always lines up north of where your point of observation is.
South hemisphere, same effect centered around sigma octanis. South of the sun rise/set axis. Which always lines up south of where your point of observation is.
Please tell me why this doesn't shatter your flat earth model.
>Dis nigga playing Minecraft
>you can fly across the Atlantic or Pacific Ocean. Plenty of regular people who aren't working for the government have flown over both. Your theory is shit.
60s dude, no such thing as small reliable video capture, plus a large camera like this would have an even larger housing to protect it from the stress of space travel ... It simply wasn't there...
It's 238,900 miles away.
There were no videos of the moon landing, it was broadcasted to television then digitized later... and no, why would it need a large housing? This isn't the 1890's, we have digital cameras.
1. NAA isn't the only space agency. Other include f.e Roskosmos and ESA and they also do research
2. BASIC MATH. Basic math was made already by acient greeks, read about this. There is also multum of obvious evidences like entire explanation of orbital mechanics, satelites in inclanation ranging from 0-90 degrees, timelapse video, obervation of moon, photos (inb4 fake) and many many more.
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy5PC5Auoak heres your livefeed from ISS without wide lense
1. Coriolis force; all weather phenomenon dealing with cyclonic rotation. If the Earth is flat, why do storms etc spin counterclockwise in the north and clock wise in the south and have greater intensity near the poles and lesser intensity near the equater?
2. Why do we see the tip of a tall object before the base of the object as we walk towards it?
3. Why can't a person standing at the center of the 'disc', north pole for example, see antarctica with a powerful enough telescope and suitable height?
4. Why do summer and winter exist?
5. Why does the moon have phases?
Gosh I know these threads are pure b8 but fuck man..
no, i think the only REAL pictures we have of earth is distorted pictures from satellites up on top of the earth.
that is photoshopped though.
my point is, i think we should use our OBSERVABLE sense to figure out if the earth is flat or round.
god stfu hes right you turd you ever wonder what the action on an ak47 or any rifle for that matter is called?
>but it is photoshop
Prove it. Burden of proof lies on you.
IF you fly west from Cali to reach China, then why in the fuck did a plane from China, go north to Alaska, how many ever miles(100s-1000s), to have an emergency landing because a woman was giving birth, instead of flying in a straight line east and hit Cali?
If the earth is flat then how does it generate so much fuckin electromagnetism? How can you prove the earth generates electromagnetism? I don't know, get a fuckin compass? holy shit!
What if our "observations" are wrong? Like they can be scientifically debunked which they always are and there are ways too observe the roundness of earth which is backed by science? Idk how because I don't care enough to look and I'm just entertaining trolls but there are
Im still not sure whats more stupid, The people trolling or the people still trying very hard to give a smart answer to obivious trolls
You're a retarded fool.
Eat a bag of Shit.