Why is this guy getting annihilated in the polls?
Hillary Clinton is ahead by over 20 points!
Trump is done, so he might as well just give it up.
Do you Trump supporters really want to vote for another loser? First there was McCain, then Romney. Do you want to vote for a loser again?
Just vote for Hillary, and you'll finally get to vote for a winner.
This is ridiculous. In my country we are laughing how much morons you have. Who on earth would vote for him. Same thing with Brexit. You are once again proving that humanity is doomed or your countries are past their prime and Eu will rise to be a super power. We would already be one with out ur nato shit and Russia economic bans, and with out Isis refugees. And guess fucking what you started those both. If human race will in some point vanish I would bet it was because of muricans
It's all about the electoral college and winning the swing states. Trump will win Texas and Clinton will win New York, those are already written in stone. The polling in the swing states are all that matter and those polls can change quickly.
They're all horrible, he's just the only one who is willing to say anything without a teleprompter and team of 20 people writing a script for him.
Our current president can't even talk without a script.
>Trump is more popular in reality. Social media, YT, rallies. Everything.
Yes, those things that Ron Paul and Bernie proved don't really matter at all when it comes time to vote.
>I hope all you liberal fucks cry
Oh they will. You can count on that.
They're already laying the groundwork for their loss, by saying Russia is going to "hack the election". There's a lot of talk about this all of a sudden, and coincidentally when Trump is pulling ahead in the polls.
but you know deep in your heart that isn't true at all, that's just what you want to happen
>Russia is going to "hack the election".
Actually I heard that they are going to be monitoring the election and plan on reporting any cheating by the Democrats that they uncover.
She's basically already won, when you take into consideration the key swing states. Trump really doesn't have any swing states in his favor. Hillary has all of the big ones, and that's all that matters in the end.
Yep, if she takes Florida it puts her at 268 out of 270. It'll be over before the election even leaves the EST time zone.
just click on Florida to turn it blue....
It wouldn't matter. Even if Russia had proof of cheating, and showed it to the world, the MSM in the US would ignore it, and pretend that it didn't happen. Obama would just make a statement saying that Russia is trying to undermine our elections.
nice try, retard
whatever he's holding, it's not the thing pictured at the bottom. you wouldn't hold a long tube sideways like that; you'd hold the tube in your palm
I bet Trump can go up a flight of stairs better than her, though
Can't wait to see the next leaks Assange promissed though. Are we taking the bets yet? Is it going to be on Benghazi? The emails? Others?
honestly, i'd rather have 4 more years of Obama than Clinton or Trump. Fuck, I'd rather have 4 more years of Bush.
yes clearly is a just a conspiracy theory, not like she said herself she was sick and coudlnt remember certain things because of it
so your left with two options either she is sick or she straight up lied
I wanted to post the "Miss Me Yet?" picture of Bush, but I apparently don't have it saved in my /b/ folder and i cba to look for it
I'm well aware of electoral college. But it has nothing to do with who is leading in the polls... which is what this thread is about.
OP implied that Hillary is beating Trump in polls. But she isn't.
i couldnt believe that
we;re currently investigation government corruption with one of the candidates let put a government agency that is under the thumb of someone that is shilling hard for that candidate in charge of the election
why are they not even pretending we dont live in a orwellian future anymore?
is there no need? are we really so far past the point that we can do anything about it that they are willing to be so open
That picture distracts from the complaints about the Benghazi incident.
The issue isn't that people died, it's how it was handled by Clinton. She abandoned them and offered no help at all despite having ample time to do so. She knowingly left them there to die.
But, of course, since you identify as a Democrat you don't actually care about the issue. You just want to turn it into a left/right issue and blindly defend your side.
you realize Russia has already been hacking both political parties, and DHS issued a warning that electronic voting machines could be susceptible to internet-orchestrated tampering, right?
>Clinton e-mails supposedly hacked
>DNC e-mails hacked
>Romanian hacker arrested, but the stuff he did was apparently years ago
>who's doing stuff now that will be arrested several years in the future?
No, I'm the first... the guy who is actually discussing the topic the thread is about. You're the guy derailing because it turns out that Clinton isn't actually ahead in polls.
Of course I'm aware. Isn't everyone?
The point I'm making is that Hillary Clinton is the establishment candidate and Trump is the anti-establishment candidate. The DHS stepping in opens up the door to blatant corruption of the election process as they have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo.
>embassies everywhere constantly making requests for more security
>lets just invade countries so we know our embassy is safe
you have no idea how international politics and embassy security works
or how embassies work. it's not a fucking military base. it's usually just a building with a fence around it, sometimes a brick wall. that's it. it's not a mile deep of razorwire and trip mines with fifty machine-gun bunkers
Obama has been trying to start shit lately with lots of other nations.
His end game, to start WW3 so that he can suspend the elections, and remain in power.
Keep your eye on him.
Go ahead and link your current polls, then. If you are even remotely informed about the election you know that there are paid shills posting lies constantly. If you want to be taken seriously you should be backing up your opinions with some sources.
But at the end of the day I don't even give a shit about polls regardless of who is leading. They're too easily manipulated to be relied upon. The public is far too ignorant to be predicted at this point. God only knows what's going to happen before the election.
yep russia spies on us, and we spie on russia
and we have a treaty in place that allows them to step in and give evidence if they find something illegal
anyway if anyone is going to rig voting machines it would be hillary's camp
shes the one who did amazingly well in counties where voting machines were proven to be hackable durng the primaries
but then the shillbot just responds to itself and makes its seem like an argument happens that it wins
its much funner to call out its bullshit, raise valid counterpoints then watch it scramble to try to pull some bullshit out of its ass before giving up and either covering its ears and repeating some non issue over and over like it has a point or just straight up tries to derail the thread with insults
the entire bureaucracy has a vested interest in the status quo...
in college, i was an office assistant for student government. even i had a vested interest in who won the student government elections. whatever government body is in charge, they have the same kind of vested interest
>most states have de facto no say in the election process
>not understanding representative democracy
this is really just a finer point of Churchill's line that 'democracy is the worst form of government - except for all others ever tried'
yes, we could go by pure popular vote. but then california would have more importance than like 10 states in the midwest put together
the electoral college is there for a reason (keep in mind that actual electors - people - go and cast a physical vote to elect the president - it's not just a summation of numbers). this system has its drawbacks, and pure popular vote has its drawbacks. that's like arguing whether purple or green is a better color.
Invade? You act like these countries are stable in any way shape or form. They're practically begging for US help in order to stabilize their governments.
You misuse the word "invade" to make it sound like sending aid to your embassies is some sort of extreme action. These countries can not defend their own governments let alone other foreign embassies.
Benghazi was under siege for hours. They had ample time to send help. They had the foreign influence to do so with the consent of local governments (as unstable as they are). These embassies weren't being attacked by military, they were being attacked by terrorists who opposed the local government.
But, again, your blind support for the left-wing is what warps your view of the situation. You aren't really making an honest argument at all. You're just saying whatever you can to justify how Hillary handled the situation.
You realize that Trump getting elected would be great for Russia, right? Trump has essentially said NATO isn't a big deal, he's said Putin is a cool guy, he doesn't care about the future of Syria, one of his aides was getting money from pro-Russia Ukraine.
Considering Putin will blatantly invade countries, you think he's above messing with the election?
i'm saying that people who actually know about the attack aren't criticizing Hillary - only the Republican nutjobs
>The sister of the U.S. ambassador to Libya killed in Benghazi said she doesn't blame Hillary Clinton for Chris Stevens' death, instead pointing to Congress for under-budgeting the State Department.
The last two elections Nate Silver nailed his polls - per state. In 2012 he got EVERY state plus the District of Columbia. A perfect 51/51. In 2008 he got 50/51, he missed only Indiana which Obama lost by less than 1%. His predictions were dead-on and they will be again.
The electoral college made sense for the founding fathers but now it's just giving more weight to voters in swing states and no weight at all to the vote of citizen is small states. A vote should be a vote, the president should be elected by pure popular vote
id rather have someone who might be a pal of putin then someone who has stated she will declare ww3 because russia dared to supposedly leak her bullshit at the dnc
anyway what you have just stated is literally just possibility. i have seen no solid proof of trump actually beng putins puppet. i mean at least hes not backed by george soros right?
>made sense for the founding fathers but now
...so you support rewriting the 2nd Amendment too, since it made sense for muskets but not for automatic weapons?
>but muh constatooshun
you like nate silver huh?
Sep 6, 2016
Election Update: Clinton’s Lead Keeps Shrinking
By Nate Silver
Election Update: As The Race Tightens, Don’t Assume The Electoral College Will Save Clinton
By Nate Silver
literally the newest two articles on his site
>mfw I can't have seizures like Hillary can
>mfw I can't stay married to a cheater and alleged rapist like Hillary can
>mfw I can't help a pedophile go free and then laugh about it like Hillary can
>mfw I can't rig an election like Hillary can
If you read the federalist papers they talk about why they specifically don't want popular vote. It's because regular people get swayed by people like Trump and they were trying to safeguard against that. It's really a good thing and your founding fathers predicted it.
Why do you support the second amendment but not the constitution?
Where did I say I did not support rewriting the second amendment? You're so full of shit Anon, that's not even the subject but yes, we should be able to rewrite what's outdated in our constitution if you ask me
The EU will eventually implode. All the new acession countries want net contributions, there's only so much Germany and France can do and the whole Greek crisis has yet to play out. Plus Italy is a financial basket case waiting to collapse. I'll give it 20 years max, or sooner of another country has an anti-EU party come to power and leads another country out. Denmark, perhaps. Or maybe the Netherlands
Trump is losing goy!
No sense wasting your vote on him, vey!
>implying the majority of Americans should have the right to vote
People are dumb as absolute fuck. Give a mandatory IQ test and then I'll back popular vote. Until then, I'll keep the electoral and deal with it rather than having to know that my vote counts the same as >Insert idiot with no political knowledge here<.
i never said that you said that... i asked if you do
if we want to revamp the constitution, that's fine with me. it requires a congressional vote and a certain number of states to ratify it, so if enough support can be mounted, i'm fine with that. it would surely see enough vigorous debate that only a legitimate revision would make it through
Yeah right that paternalist argument, people aren't mature enough to know what's good for them so we might as well choose for them. Call that a democracy.
I don't know why you think i'm pro 2nd amendment, I'm not
soros is a horrible person who is behind movements like black lives matter in an attempt to create a federalized police
and again he has been proven to be a backer of Clinton where as putins ties to trump are very very vague and so far as ive seen basically just a "i feel like this is true" propaganda story from the msm
MFW the only reason Shillcucks made this thread is because Trump is actually leading in the polls
It was all an inside job for Hillary to win. She cheated Sanders out the Primaries and they had Trump come on to be her rival and no one really wanted Trump besides a small portion of the people. It was all Planned ahead of time
>We're fucked either way boys
Feel the Johnson
Why do you keep posting those fake medical reports that were debunked long ago by snopes and others?
It's not convincing anyone, because only retards and tinfoil hat types think that it's real.
losing quite the contrary I think he is just getting started
you're too young, you're stooopid
shut it down! shut it down!
Its far too late in the polls.
I'd love a libertarian candidate but does he think he has a chance to climb above Trump and Shillary in the next 60 or so days? Wishful thinking.
please go sit in the corner if your going to be retarded
johnson has about as much chance of winning as i do
mickey mouse will literally get more votes then him come election time
Sometimes hourly, but at least a few times per day. It depends on when all of the pollsters (aggregate) release their polls, then that data is added into the mix.
I think it's all in here:
They are desperate AF after the CNN poll and the coughing fits on live TV.
>Same thing with Brexit.
>Eu will rise to be a super power
Nice thinking there boss.
>guess fucking what you started those both
Poor partitioning of the middle east after the collapse of the Ottomans?
>If human race will in some point vanish I would bet it was because of muricans
Get out (I'm not even American, so don't start that shite).
>me you were responding too
i know Johnson is pretty much out of the race now - and I'm kind of pissed at him for sitting on his ass when this was THE election. he should've hired Sanders' camp as internet PR people, and used the same system to drum up support for himself
with the two shitty choices, this was literally the best election in modern history for a 3rd party candidate. BOTH candidates have high unfavorability ratings than ANY candidate has ever had. Not just one of them has the highest - they both have the highest unfavorabilities
if only one of them would die
tfw they recently came out and announced that if a candidate were to die during an election they would have to start over from the primaries
desperate ass government almost literally begging for some whack job to take the shot on either one of these two fucktards
No one is choosing for people. Republicanism permeates the constitution and for a good reason. Politics is a very difficult subject so maybe it's better to pick someone you trust and have them decide what's best for you. It's really a great idea, especially for a populous nation like USA. Direct democracy can only ever work for small nations.
>not knowing anything about the political parties
I read a Dump Trump article. The RNC could say that he's unable to continue - it was designed for someone being in a coma or something, but they could essentially declare him insane and remove him that way
the RNC would then vote on a new candidate. in some states it would be too late to take him off the ballot, and people would vote for the new candidate when they checked his name on the ballot. other states, depending on the timeframe, would have the new candidate. in the end, the actual Electors who vote for real would presumably all cast their ballots for the new candidate
>may still happen... Trump's Electors could legally vote for Hillary (not sure if they can abstain)
Most women are overwhelmingly voting for Hillary Clinton. 97% of blacks, 89% of Hispanics, and 93% of other minorities including LGBTQQS community are all voting for Hillary.
So let's see. This leaves primarily the white male vote going to Trump.
Sorry boys, but it's just not going to be enough to win you the national election.
The EU is burning and the last hope for the civilized world is to bring back national pride. The problem is you've got so much Soros semen in your stomach it's backed up into your brain and made you retarded.
I can't believe faggots actually think that paid shilleries post on /b/. Next level with you new alt right retards.
FYI, pol is that way
Also, Hilary is as much of a cunt as you are retarded.
oh i agree on that, and yes i would have voted for him in a heartbeat despite disagreeing on alot of his policies
sad really, your right this may have been the only chance this shitty two party powerhouse has been weak enough to take down
>still im waiting til the debates either way
Yep, as mush as I believe that polling is correct *today* an event can happen tomorrow that could change everything. One of them could drop dead in a coughing fit or a toupee accident, or any other number of things. The election is isn't over by a long shot, but there needs to be a major swing very soon because if stays this way Clinton really is looking at a landslide on the electoral map, which is what matters - but not so much on the overall popular vote, that will be close.
one bump a day keeps the juden away
>practice for real life
>practice for real life
>practice for real life for uncucking
>On motherfucking 4chan
i've thought about the idea of emigrating to Australia. Women are so hot there. Great surf. Still has a few antiquated laws/not as much freedom as the US, but still a pretty great place to live. It's like 1980s America, but with hotter women and more dangerous wildlife.
thats the reason why he should be president? ralph wiggam would talk without telepromter as well.. or some wrestling artists.. does that talent qualify one to be president? if yes, america is really fucked. "it really seems like america and uk are on a contest on who can fuck themselves up the most. uk is in the front, but america has a trump card"
Dude's a paramedic. Not secret service.
He has been seen (several times) going on stage and telling her to keep talking when she blanks out.
>look about 6:30 in to about 7 minutes.
This is the correct answer. Prepare for the establishment to roll out the red carpet for Hillary.
oh he insulted hillary, now we cant think hes a shill
ive noticed a trend that pretty much every other person caleld out for shilling says this as if it magically removes that the fact tehy have been shilling for her the entire thread
no i dont even like hillary i just go on and on about her and deflect all criticism to trump because of reasons
Something funny going on with these two pics.... The same except the last part.
not that guy, but it's believable
nignogs all vote Democrat. It's one of the most biased demographics. They all vote for Democrats and love church - both are placebos for how shitty their lives are. Vote for us and go to church, and your life will be better some day! But seriously, gimme your vote and money now
Trump has really pissed off Mexicans. There was a HUGE shitstorm in Mexico about Trump visiting. People were really pissed at their President
Mentally-ill LGBTWHGMEI+ all vote Democrat as well, though they're small enough of a demographic not to matter
I think the big swing voters will be old women. Old racist men love Trump, but old women have the "I want to see a female President before I die" on their mind
Pity Trump didn't realise that Russia had annexed Crimea. You'd have thought that, with is international experience arranging Miss World, he'd have been on top of that aspect of his foreign policy brief
the amount of retards in this country who think their vote matters when nearly every state has winner-takes-all laws is astounding
im not looking for whats believable im looking for sources
you cant post numbers like that and not post a source. am i supposed to believe him because he said so?
60% of white men are actually jolly ranchers hiding in meat suits
650 men die of blowjobs every minute
8/10 women really really really dont like turkey subs
Funny thing happens when you have power and money. You can do no wrong.
Trump has money and buys himself out of a lot of trouble.
Hillary has money AND power so anyone with evidence of her doing wrong come down with a sudden case of missing person and or death.
you haven't had a faithless elector since the 60s so if you're in a swing state the vote
also, maybe it's not likely that your vote will matter. but in the case that some asshole wins with one vote you're gonna be hating yourself for not voting.
Throwing away your vote is the only logical choice between voting for a cuck or a cunt. Trump cuck.
sure thing pal
>the independent internet media is an arm of the democrats!
>not me though!
>why do they want to suppress anything if there's nothing to suppress?
>now let's talk about some 9/11 conspiracy theories that are totally true
>I'm not saying there's anything wrong
>but let's talk about all this stuff that's wrong
dude must be funded by Fox News, or at least have their playbook
>Is Obama a terrorist? You decide!
>That's not biased at all, btw
I wish this were true, I once thought that Hillary did have control over the media, which I actually gave her some credit for. But she has obviously slipped or never had it at all, so now she's just as incopetent as trump.
Everyone knows Trump has broken the law on many many occasions without repercussions, they just don't care because they also think that's impressive for him. People are just finding out for sure that Hillary has.
All of you HURDUR TRUMP'S AHEAD IN DA POLLS people, need to realize that these polls really don't mean much in reality.
In the end it boils down to a few key swing states, and guess what. Hillary is winning in ALL OF THEM at this point in time.
Depends on how many votes the third part gets. If it's more than trump, or enough for hillary to lose, then the message has been sent. I don't believe for a minute that he can win, but to say that no one will see the message is like saying you know what the future is.
Which you are probably so faggish that you actually might think that.
CNN just admitted that he has a lead in the polls. Pretty sad when the Clinton News Network cant fake their way out of it anymore
Be smart dont be a returd, but based upon yer prejudiced blame jews love muslims hate bacon lingo its inevitable...
Hillary doesn't get shit when she does anything wrong. The media is too focused that Trump is using a knife to eat on a plane, while Hillary is more corrupt than Korea's future
Yeah you know. Like an obama appointed FBI director telling the world that if anyone else did what hillary did they would face charges but Hillary is my master so im going to say we should not press charges.
Things like that.
The only times a president has been elected without having a majority of the votes have ended with republucan presidents.
The GOP are not the ones who should worry about cheating.
>Y'ALL CAN'T DO IT LIKE HILLARY CAN
JOIN THE HILLITARY, YOU FAGGOTS
Holy shit that picture annoys me. The fact that it implies that criminal and civil cases are equal/comparable shows a complete lack of understanding of the American legal system.
Jesus, she is so weak. How are we going to expect her to go on diplomatic visits? In the presidential rascal scooter? I guarantee she will pass out in public within the next year.
What a fucking mess the Dems have gotten themselves into.
Please, list your "numerous studies". I'd love to see how scientifically grounded and politically impartial they are.
and what about hillary being backed by muslim extremists? inlcuding the one who funded to attack on the twin towers?
i guess we all should be executed, oh wait trumps connection to putin is just democuck bullshit propoganda
just you guys then
Funny, the vote in Crimea was about as legitimate as the Democrat one in NY and California. (probably. We may never know since they avoided exit polling).
How are you shills going to call out Putin for rigging an election when that's how Hillary "won"?
>I love war. -Trump
Yeah but what's the fucking context?
I love war too but unlike Clinton I'm not promising to start one.
>mfw when CNN rigs one poll to give Trump his one-day story
>then CNN delivers 5 new polls to create an entire "Trump is tanking" month-long narrative
Well said anon, have an anime Trumper
This is /b/ faggot, yes they can lol.
This place is for gathering ideas that you can look into yourself or not. But to think anyone here can say anything is fact, well, you went full retard.
If you are not sure about something, just find out don't be a bitch about it.
Johnson isn't even a real libertarian. He is a open borders globalist shill who panders to the left and picked a VP who is anti 2A. He cares more about weed and gays then he does about fiscal issues.
Trump has the most libertarian approach to healthcare reform out of everyone running. He is fine with gays, pro 2A, and anti war. That's enough for me to vote for him.
t. a libertarian cuck.
I'm *cough* sorry I don't *cough* *cough* didn't know *cough* *cough* *cough* know that (c) mean classified *cough* *cough* *cough* *cough* *cough* *cough*
>Only retards would say something so retarded during an election
No arguments? No problem!
Call him a retard.
Might have something to do with the first fucking thing he said while running. Something about Mexicans sending rapists. I'm sure he has been saying that for decades as well. Wait nope.
But democrats are just calling him a racist! So ahve a ton of his fellow republicans retard.
Says the anon voting for a candidate funded by terrorists.
thats nots what happened though
a specific thing brought forth as fact because of several studies
ok post those sources for that
you cant claim something like that and then refuse to give evidence of it and expect to be taken at face value
if your in a debate you cant be expected to be taken seriously if you dont bother to post sources after forwarding something as fact based on sources you claim to have seen
end of discussion
Is the republican party going to go back to traditional conservative non-religious values when Trump loses? Or are they in too deep?
This pandering to uneducated xenophobics just seems to lead nowhere and the democratic party needs to be kept in check by a proper republican party not to go full retard.
OP, your thread ran all the way to the bump limit.
1 dollar has been deposited into your account.
Have a nice day.
that was all that was needed
although i guess someone could attack the validity of that infograph, my entire point was just to get someone to post a source so guess im done here