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Have any more of you awoken today? Has the insight that you are "The Any" reached your mind yet? That we are all infinite beings and that we are only playing the human game.
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No, we're not. And fractals doesn't mean that.
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We are being born, we are living and we are going to die.
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>>702783354
stop taking drugs please
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>>702783520
You are talking to yourself though. Why are you so convinced that you are strictly human? Because that is what you have been taught that you are?
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>>702783448
Fractals is just the way we built this universe. It is a clue to the true nature of it.
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>>702783643
Seriously, stop taking psychedelics, actually go to your fucking classes and stop wasting your parents money at Uni being "deep" and "enlightened"
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>>702783698
Nice way to say that the universe is made of broccoli
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>>702783354


The Mandelbrot set only shows that simple algorithms can result in infinite complexity. If you change an algorithm even slightly, you can end up with a dull, finite pattern.

Main point, you're talking bollocks.

You'd be more accurate to say that individual consciousness is actually a fragment of a greater whole. We are all THE conscious universe perceiving itself introspectively.

You dirty fucking casual.
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>>702783926
We are enlightened, you will all come to realize this. Time will prove this human right.

So much aggression within your shell, let go of it. Every act of aggression perpetrated by you or on to you is done to yourself. Self hatred is no way to exist.

Why is it so strange to imagine that things are not as they seem to be? Our knowledge is ever expanding. People used to think the world was solid, but then quantum physics came along and proved everyone wrong.
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>>702784429
All fractals are infinite, how ever much you change them.

>You'd be more accurate to say that individual consciousness is actually a fragment of a greater whole. We are all THE conscious universe perceiving itself introspectively.

That is exactly what I am saying though.
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>>702783354
when i wake up, i sometimes ask myself if this is still me, or another person with all the memories of the ones that went to sleep before me and died? What if sleep is actually death of your soul and consciousness, and i am going to die next time i put myself to sleep?
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>>702784553
Not if you change the algorithm that makes them Then it's not a fractal anymore.

The algorithm creates the structure of the fractal.
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Op I kinda understand what you mean, however all this enlightenment wont put food in your belly.

Stop taking drugs and get a job.
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>>702784724
So you are telling me that if you change the algorithm from fractal mathematics to something else you wont have a fractal any more?

Thank you Captain!
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>>702783354
I know what you are trying to say. The phrasing is a bit off I think. But yeah, we are just one being playing around basically. Pretending to be all sorts of shit
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>>702784895
You can still end up with a fractal, but much higher chance of not getting one.
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>>702784876
I am very well of actually. I am a student, but I've had a job before. Prefer being a student though, I like having the opportunity to think. That is what I do best.
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>>702784675
If you want to think that way. Just remember that you are simply a pattern. Every thought you have is just a pattern of atoms. You don't really exist in the sense you are a separate being that is completely independent of everything else.
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>>702784675
Death is just an illusion. Life too for that matter. It is all a creation of our mind. You've lived every life, had every experience one could ever have.
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>>702784929
Exactly.

That is one way to put it, kek

Good to see another part of me has awoken.
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>>702784463
It's because he is a faggot
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>>702785075

These thoughts you shared are pretty neat but what can you do with them?
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>>702785127
Every part of the universe is implied in every other part because we are living inside a fractal universe.

Within every rock, every human is implied and within every human, every rock is implied. You need rocks, what would you stand on?
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>>702785259
Even though I know everything is just a game, that nothing must go on, I still act like everything is serious and really going on. It's more fun that way. Well nice talking to you, I have to go now.
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>>702783354
there is no "game" you faggot
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>>702785423
It will allow your ego to let go of worry and fear. Because when you understand that it is all a game, there is no longer any reason to worry.

We must all come together to once again create paradise. The only way to do this is to awaken people to the fact that we are not separate. There is no you and I, there is only us and what we make of the world together.
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Life, Consciousness and everthing we percieve is not of any meaning. billions and trillions of years you were unborn and thus dead. and when you've lived your "life", you'll be dead again.
Life is a hiccup, a disturbance and an error in a universe which strives for a balance. all things will come back to the only true diety in our universe, the equilibrium
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>>702785439
Well in reality there are no parts to anything. It's just one process, I'm just another wave in the endless ocean
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If you were truly enlightened, you would realize that humans do not exist. Nothing really exist, it just is. The only thing that matters is to just be. I agree with the anons in this thread, lay off the psychedelics bro, I admit they are fun, but go find happiness find a wife, have kids, take off your shirt, eat a hot dog.
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>>702783354
go back to /x/
>>702783520
only drug this faggot is on is mental illness. I've eaten psychedelics literally a hundred times and never once seriously concluded I was "The Any" or whatever this dude is on about.
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>>702783354
mu
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>>702785608
That is one way to put it. But we have free will. So it is not just an endless process, it is an endless game.
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>>702784429
>>702784553
That's a lovely metaphor for the social, interactive, experiential nature of sapience but a metaphor it remains.
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>>702783354
what else is there besides being human?
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>>702785797
>endless game
God you make me cringe, the true enlightened would be repulsed by your use and views of being "enlightened"
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>>702785702
You are The Any though, you've really played a trick on yourself if you think that you are really just some human. You've played this game an infinite of times before. You've played the cat game, you've played the dog game. Yet all of this is hidden behind your ego.
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>>702784429
thats exactly wat hes saying lel
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>>702783354
Its true. Figured it out 3 years ago. Its a secret that only people who freed themselves from illusion can see. Even through rational reasoning. You dont know? Youll see it when your monkey-avatar dies. :)
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>>702785797
>But we have free will
Prove it

I think free will is like zero or an imaginary number. It (probably) doesn't really exist but it has practical uses as a concept.
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>>702784876
just do drugs and have a job. dont feed the stereotype
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>>702785845
You are very much still human, but you are not only human. You are everything, because you are infinite. You are me, I am you.

"The Any" as I like to call us/them/it does not have a description, it is just pure possibility.
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>>702785922
As someone who has experienced ego death, I can tell you that, no, I'm not playing any game or hiding anything from myself with my ego and I can tell you that you are talking out of your ass, most likely because of YOUR ego.
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>>702785892
Don't not pick his language. His message is true. Everything is a game. In other words, nothing has to happen, this existence isn't mandatory. Nothing is pushing everything around, everything happens spontaneously for the sake of itself, not to fulfill a purpose or some end goal
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>>702785948
No one has truly figured it out yet. But we are well on the way. You didn't figure it out, we did together. One long process of collective thinking.
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>>702786082
You tell me that you've experienced ego death, yet you seemed to have learned nothing from it then.
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>>702786091
The end goal is what ever we want it to be. There really is no end though.
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>>702783354
Overly simplistic and wrongheaded view the perception of reality
Fuck off new age faggot
Go learn field theory before spewing shit you barely understand
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>>702786148
Tom campbell
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>>702785837
It's not a metaphor at all. we are literally a conscious part of the universe.
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>>702786274
Because I don't think the exact same thing as you? Because I haven't come to the precise conclusions you have? Once again, I'd ask you to check again whether it is our egos at play here or yours, because from where I'm sitting it seems you are quite invested in being Mr. Wise Enlightened Guru and letting everybody else know about it and this is the behavior of an egotistical person.
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>>702786394
Field theory? How does that relate?

I am not new age, I am a rational thinker. My closest comparison would be Tom Campbell. Similar, yet not the same of course.
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>>702786055
You sound like a sphongle song.
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we are just a fractal, a possibility of the infinite everything that exists all at once. time is an illusion, a subjective dimension that allows you to experience the game of life. to forget that we are everything.
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>>702786615
You actually do. It is all one process, you just can't see it.

You must know what it feels like to be separate to experience what it means to be one.
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>>702786891
Well said my awoken friend.
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>>702786394
What field theory? Quantum field theory? Conformal field theory? Even quantum mechanics has unknowns like how entanglement works.
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>>702786891
What happens if you remember everything? Do you go insane?
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>>702787160
If THAT happens, you'll shit out your whole self.
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>>702787160
You become infinite bliss. Every suffering and conflict is just there so that you can have something to challenge you as you work your way back into the light.

In the infinite, there are no conflicts.
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>>702787160

i think it would feel like you're living out the lives of EVERYONE in existence. at the same time. pretty sure your head splodes.
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>>702783354
>look at this mathy pic i found!
> i must be an >>>/x/traterrestrial being
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>>702787346
Every "thing" that could possibly exists. Not just the human experience.
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>>702787160
its the best thing you can can feel, its unexplainable what it feels like. your human brain cant hold onto any of the information but when you are linked to it and able to see it, you know what its like but you wont be able to remember any of it afterwards. just take alot of psychedelics to get to it.
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>>702787936
A heavy dose of DMT is all that is required.
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>>702787998
Not saying you will remember what it is like afterwards, but in the moment you will.
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>>702787936
>>702787998
How do you know you aren't still there?
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>>702788366
Because I can't see in 360 degrees.
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>>702788366
you dont. if you woke up from this life like it was a dream, i wouldn't be surprised, its just like that.
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If people who have been "there" before, realise they are connected to everything, why aren't we working together and cooperating to make the world a better place?
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>>702788519
Life is just a dream though. In a very real way.
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>>702785577
Cool. Try that on the mudslides.
How about you ground yourself in reality while you're here and learn human history.

You utopian dream is just a way for you to escape reality. Life is struggle. While your wasting other people's ressources or putting yourself in debt so you can think, you are a burden on everybody. A real, non metaphysical burden. Also, you have zero proof that what you experienced is not just a function on the mind. Just because you are reluctant to believe it could all be from your brain, doesn't mean it isn't. You are completely delusional. This comes from an ex psychedelic user.

Stop acting like a pussy and just get a job.
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>>702788831
Because not single part of us can wake up on its own, we must all wake up before that. That is what the universe is trying to do by allowing me to write this.
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>>702789239
It has already been proven that consciousness is not created within the brain. Feel free to do your own research, Tom Campbell is a good resource.

Struggle is just something we created so that we would have something to challenge us, because we like being challenged. Life would get pretty boring otherwise.

Why do people think that having used psychedelics makes them some kind of expert on anything? Psychedelics is just a tool like any else, the real trick is knowing how to use them.
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>>702789244
You're delusional.

Life is telling you to stop taking drugs by allowing me to type this.
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>>702789498
Did you ever read on group thinking and cult mentality ?

How old are you, 20 ?

Stop being a faggot, faggot.
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>i am a fractal

>i am the univere

>human experience

>muh existence

religion is cool again 2016
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>>702789810
Winter is coming
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is the majority of the planet's population suffering from depersonalization?

What can we do?
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>>702789646
What is a delusion though?

Life only tells me what it allows me to interpret, I do not interpret what you are saying in the way you want me to, because it is a false interpretation. A delusion.
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>>702790051
Lol. Enjoy being poor and in debt, faggot.
See how life rewards your faggot behavior.
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>>702789793
What makes you so sure that you are not the group?

Because you don't feel like it?

You could not exist without your mother nor your father, how are you really separate from them?
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>>702789810
What is a religion though? A certain belief?

If you believe in everything, how can that be a certain belief?
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>>702789930
prove it fractal
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>>702790201
I killed my parents. You're an egotistical idiotic faggot.
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>>702790195
My life is beyond what I could have imagined as a child. It is so much better.

I am prosperous and quite wealthy, if that counts for anything. Money does not lead to happiness, it can help you achieve things though, but money is only the tool to get there.

Before you are awakened, money will only be an obstacle.
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>>702790402
You killed yourself then, good going.
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>>702790303
because it's not everything. Global consciousness is a possibility but so is zeus, fanciful appeal to ignorance = religion
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>>702790722
Global consciousness is undeniable. You are literally using it right now to communicate with me. If we didn't have a global consciousness we would not even be able to communicate because language would not be a thing, and especially something as complicated and a ever growing as the English language.
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>>702790722
“Some kind of dialog is now going on between individual human beings and the sum total of human knowledge and nothing can stop it.”
-Terence McKenna
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>>702787679

yeah yeah. you get what im saiyan though.
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>>702790571
Money is an obstacle. People who think they can pay for happiness with good credit are soon to be fucked over hard by disollusionment. Not OP
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>>702791351
I do, just wanted to be clear so we don't confuse anybody. These are not easy concepts to grasp.
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>>702791477
It gets really funny, because I'm here with people who have a ton of money and there is no real happiness outside family and giving something. This, fucking wears off.
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>>702791477
Money is just a means to an end, if you can get all you want in this life for free, that is great too
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>>702791114
Most of the global concours was is using it to call eachother fuck heads and faggots, tho.
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>>702791543
Speaking of which.
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>>702791692
Yeah, it is unfortunate, but it is also kind of funny when you realize that they are just insulting themselves. kek
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>>702791543
No.

//OP
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>>702791901
It's true. When you walk away from your screen/display/phone, who the fuck do you have to turn to? Better ask yourself anon. Go ahead.
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>>702791999
Give something to the world. Anything. Be it chaos and bullshit, or help. Give something. Don't be a stain that fucking gets washed out with the rest of the bleach.
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>>702791114
So standardized schooling that taught us to read and write and the internet is global consciousness? we're not talking about the same thing

>>702791242
Global consciousness as a theory works on everything that's conscious, that means snails too. You and I had the luxury of growing up with the internet so of course we're growing at a faster rate but that growth unilateral. low class culture is growing just as rapidly, degenerate knowledge bases of just how degenerate you can be is growing rapidly, relative knowledge and understanding of sciences and social climates, cliques, socioeconomics, education of foods, methods of speaking, all of it. Its all on the same up swing.

Snails haven't done anything new since they were classified. You'd think "avoid sidewalks" would be a pretty big aspect to put on the snail-consciousness-grid
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>>702783354
Just like religion your making up excuses to glorify life when it's meaningless. Nothing matters, nothing exists, live like a pirate. Argh
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>>702792448
Life only has the meaning we make of it, because it is all one big game for our enjoyment.
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>>702792554
Thoughts on EGO op?
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>>702792671

i like egoraptor
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>>702792448
Living like a nihilist sounds like agony. Why not accept existentialism as your lord and savior? Being a schizophrenic is really fun anyway.
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>>702783354

>Monist pleb

>Nihilist degenerates and other blasphemers ITT

>Not reading Descartes

>Worshiping the realm of flesh

Kali will not reward you pedestrian pleb.
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>>702792891
Schizophrenia sounds hard to me, but that's just because none almost killed me.
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>>702792554
> game
> for our enjoyment
This is no video game kiddo, life is just time passing being filled with pointless activities.
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>>702792554
It would be great in an actual game but that's how you see existence because you're a giant asshole
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>>702792671
The ego is just another part of existence, like everything else it can be both useful and harmful. It is harmful only if you believe yourself to be your ego, but if you use your ego as a tool to achieve a goal for example then it is great thing to have. The ego is how we experience things in this dimension of time, it is there for a reason.
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>>702793124
Makes sense. But when it outweighs everything else, we have a hard fucking equation to deal with. And dangerous.
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>>702792891
I just like robbing and gettin dat booty...where do I sign up, always looking to cause more mayhem
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>>702792983
Life is what you make of it. If you want your life to be pointless, then you can feel free to live that way. But I would claim that it is no living at all.
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>>702783354
do you know about alan watts? he's dead now, but he basically introduced eastern philosophy to the western audience in the mid 1900's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcPWU59Luoc

beyond that is just the idea of eastern philosophy, like hinduism and buddhism. ideas like how we are all just one fundamental consciousness being expressed in each person. how the ultimate 'goal' of the universe is for YOU (meaning everyone) to figure this out, then it starts over. how you are bound to samsara-- the cycle of life, death, and rebirth.
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>>702793196
Yes, it can be a very destructive force. Just like fire, you have to use it wisely.
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>>702793211
Ok by that logic I'm going to make my life wonderful starting now. Damn I feel so much better, thanks fag
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>>702793219
Accepting that you will die will be different for everyone. It's a hard fact, and how hard will you fight it/feed into it? Will you pay for your own death? Remains to be seen.
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>>702792983

what would be your reaction though if it was true? you die, it goes dark or whatever, then you wake up in a room with a bedtable, all strapped up to a machine that feeds and cleans while you play this game called "life" the game was only a couple days worth of play but it felt like a lifetime.

what would be even crazier is if you also looked in a mirror somewhere or some shit and you don't even look like the you in the game;


neat-o, right? gaiz?
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>>702793219
I've listened to countless hours of him. It was actually him that made me realize all of this a couple of days ago.

He made me wake up. Our we made ourselves wake up. He was a brilliant part of us.
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>>702793350
Prosperity comes to those who seek it with a pure intent.
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>>702793377
Death is merely an opportunity to be born again.
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>>702793219
there's some good reading there, grand unification as an end goal
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>>702793442
I had similar thoughts on an acid trip, hypothetically speaking if that were to happen I'd look for my first opportunity to take as many lives as possible. Cause then I could blame it on video games
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>>702793377
here's my real opinion:

there is no answer that i can come up with regarding death. i will never say "i am truly okay with the eternal oblivion." i will never have suitable evidence to calm my worries, so i just choose not to worry.

if i am in the shower, and the thought dawns "hey, you're a human and in 60 years or so you're going to be dead. forever." and i say to myself "yep that's true" and i move on. i don't dwell on it. dwelling on it only makes me anxious and never leads me to a solution.

i envy those who have conviction in their religion. those who have truly unwavering faith. those who KNOW what will happen when they die. i will never know that feeling, but so what. getting worked up about it won't help me.
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>>702793471
What is the idea behind things that steal us away from unification? What is the idea behind everyone getting essentially further apart, and how does that fit into it? He had a master and doctorate in divinity and theology respectively, what does he think about chaos?
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>>702793788
its a game. the whole thing is a game. the whole point is to forget that you are god.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU0PYcCsL6o
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>>702793536
Fuck off you old proverb speaking high and mighty I'm enlightened lookin ass fag. Bring that optimistic attitude around my side of town and I bet someone slaps that smile off your face
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>>702793777
nice trips why are you so worried about death?
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Hey OP, I know I'm late to the thread, and I haven't read any of the previous posts, but you seem to confident in your way of thinking.

I've spent only a few weeks now learning about Buddhism, but I am so sure I've found the meaning of "life". I'm am quite confident that I am capable of making the choice to walk away from life, humanity, emotion, and to fill a role that gives me purpose and happiness. I've been learning about the holographic universe, and I don't think I can see the universe in a grain of sand. However, I feel the ocean entering the raindrop, rather than the raindrop entering the ocean. Would you mind informing me if you think I'm just some dumb kid or perhaps onto something much greater than existence of ignorance?
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>>702793890
That's a fucking trip.
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>>702793788
We just created conflicts so that we would have something to challenge us and to have something to over come. It gives us a kind of purpose.

We are getting closer and closer, not the opposite.

I am not sure what he thinks about chaos. His words are like a poem, everybody will hear something different within them.
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>>702793890
This is accurate.
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>>702793890

now that. is. interesting. what you said makes me think a lot about majora's mask all of a sudden;
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>>702793954
Somebody got pissed.
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>>702783354
We are sensory organisms, there is no self
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>>702793536

i feel like this was quoted from a recent episode of db super you just watched;
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>>702793954
All things are shared between us, you would only be causing harm to yourself. We need to decrease the entropy of the system, not increase it.
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>>702793890
>>702794121
this is a 50 minute lecture, but its probably my favorite one by him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnLEhQXnIzQ
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>>702794161
So extensions of one consciousness?
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>>702793442
Have you watched Rick and Morty? They visit the equivalent of a Chuck E. Cheese but way out in the universe. Rick slams down a VR helmet and Morty spends 70 years living the life of of a specific made up person. After finally dying, if flashes game over and Rick takes off the helmet and puts it on. He exists on a much higher plane of intelligence and is capable of living the life of the same person but with cheat codes, such as no social security number. It's a really fascinating episode and an AMAZING tv show.
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>>702794290

thanks anon i needed something to watch really bad;
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>>702784463
Self-hatred is THE way we exist. For claiming to be enlightened, you missed that obvious reality.
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>>702793993
Every thought within every one of us is a reflection of the whole.

There is no dumb kid, there is only the ill informed.

Life has no meaning expect for what you want it to have. And the next time you live a different life you will probably have a different meaning.

The only meaning that I can imagine is to decrease the entropy of the system to reach true bliss once again, but that is a natural consequence of awakening rather than a conscious goal I figure.

Buddhism has a lot of wisdom, but do not be fooled into believing in one system, the only truth is infinity and it requires no belief. It is self evident.
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>>702794372

yes yes; im really happy this show exists, that episode was so awesome i felt like the universe really heard my thoughts on that and made it into a show for all to see;
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>>702794181
It just comes to me. I take no credit for it, it is simply the universes way of expressing itself I figure.

Don't know what db super is.
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>>702794271
No all things aren't shared. Foolish child I have rid myself of all emotion and attachments. You humans sicken me and I will continue to slowly rid this place of your kind. Share that bitch
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Oooo, a new age/transcendentalism rabbit hole thread. Good opinions being tossed around. #1 Find out who God is. Ask Him to help you undeestqnd the truth of our existence and he will. This takes much effort, because only a person that seeks God openly with the intention of surrending all in complete obidence will get to the level of being God's intimate friend. I speak of Jesus Christ by the way, the only GOD of the universe. His existence and divinity shouldn't be viewed as "bogus" but, because of this fallen world and satans cunning plot that has over time convinced generations of people that there is no God, Jesus, who is the only God that can lead you to true understanding becomes a brainwashed person's enemy or joke.
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lol okay; you can play coy all you want but i know you're picking up what im putting down. /wink
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>>702792891
>Living like a nihilist sounds like agony
That is your perception of nihilism as someone who isn't a nihilist.
It's only agony until you remember that it's not. Then it's just annoying. Like explaining this tedium to you is for me.
Doesn't mean I won't do it. Doesn't mean I can't find pleasure in it.
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>>702793777
Living in fear of death is OK in my opinion. People who choose to have a life, (a wife, kids, a job, if you want to pay your rent) are not going to be okay with death until they are free from the things that are attached too. I used to think, "As long as I've made a positive impact on this world, I will die with a smile on my face." I've contemplated that the "as if" I've had to add to being okay with death is the reason I had a self. But once (I myself haven't made the leap to abandon my self) you are able to die tomorrow, or even when you walk out the door, I think that only then will you be truly liberated from the human condition.
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>>702793890
>>702794290
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMRrCYPxD0I
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>.
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>>702784094
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>>702794851
holy fuck get out of here with your religion shit
what you call god is what others call an idol
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>>702795017
I just converted
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>>702795017
Makes sense, but what happens when it wears off? Just find something new? What happens when it catches up and the world tears your cells apart with a virus? Still enjoying it?
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>>702795241
I don't believe you.
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>>702795022
yeah yeah, the four truths and the eightfold path.

i'm just along for the ride at this point. the whole thing isn't serious and i'm trying not to take it seriously. i'd rather play along with other people than stand alone.
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>>702795299
I couldn't give a shit less
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>>702795017
I completely and utterly enjoyed your reply, thank you.
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I haven't taken acid enough times to be awakened.
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>>702795266
>when it wears off
When what does?
>Just find something new?
To do? Yes? Are you bored all the time? Did I misunderstand you?
>What happens when it catches up and the world tears your cells apart with a virus?
When what catches up? Reality? I don't ignore reality. Virus? I guess I would die, maybe.
>enjoying?
No, I'd be dead or sick. Are you retarded? It's not like pain just goes away when you stop believing in subtext and shit.
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>>702795516

i wasn't aware you had to take acid to awaken? maybe it varies for different people; all i ever did was smoke weed...and take mushrooms a couple of times.
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>>702795516
I have never taken acid in this life time. //OP
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>>702795516
Stay sober for 3 months then take 3 squares to the eyeball. Then do the worm down the sidewalk towards your local grocery store....you will reach enlightenment level 12
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>>702793777
>777
>Have Faith.

In all seriousness though, I am not afraid of death. I have been to where I will go when I die and it intrigues me if anything.
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>>702795694
I don't think there is one way to do it, we've all had different experiences and we all need different things to awaken.
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>>702795694
It was the mushrooms (really it was the prolonged meditation on a singular subject whilst on mushrooms).
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>>702795397
Holy shit, never mind! I'm not a nihilist, I believe in brushing your teeth. Fuck. Imma go brush dese niggas rite nao
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>>702795306
I'm not a Buddhist, I've only read one book about the Buddha's life. I only speak of the human condition as I've learned from a few psychology seminars. I think the only thing that separates you and I is that I began to feel like a cold, emotionless, robot that did as told and enjoyed it. Living is suffering, but as long as you find happiness and sadness in it, fuckin' rock it man.
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>>702795845

you know whats funny; i can't even remember what the singular subject was that i meditated on that day. this was more than 5 years ago i believe. do you guys remember what subject you were meditating on when you awakened?

im really stoned btw so sorry if i become a little incoherent
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>>702783354
I suffer from DID/DPD.

So, take your RP shit, and shove it up your ass. One metaphysical realm to which I have no access to is no different than another metaphysical realm to which I have no access to. If I'm not real, it doesn't matter, because then everything else would be equally not real, and awash.

Thus nothing would be "unreal". There would (not) exist, any contradictory state of realness. Everything is then real.

And it doesn't matter.

Seriously. I live with it daily. Go fuck yourself.
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>>702795514
>mfw trust-fall after I remember I'm a nihilist
>implying I even got to that point in the fall
>implying I trust people
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I've been reading philosophy lately, and I think I know what you mean, OP.

Everyone should try and open their mind in this thread, as the average 4chan user tends to be very close-minded. Close-mindedness is the first step to enlightenment, however. How ironic.
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>>702785796
underrated post
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>>702795694
I smoked weed and I couldn't help but feel awakened, but in a specific branch of Buddhism, they believe that everyone is born enlightened, and through the use of psychoactive substances, that you can reach it yet again. I haven't taken this path but it sounds pretty damn righteous.
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>>702783354
Here is a handy guide to help you determine whether or not you are having a genuine insight or a false epiphany while on LSD:

Did this truth reveal itself to you while you were high on LSD? If so...itis almost certainly bulshit. Enjoy your high, and don't do it too often.
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>>702796443

i can somehow feel how much of a hipster you really are through reading your text; i don't like it.
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There is a black hole at the heart of biology. Bluntly put, we do not know why life is the way it is. All complex life on earth shares a common ancestor, a cell that arose from simple bacterial progenitors on just one occasion in 4 billion years. Was this a freak accident, or did other ’experiments’ in the evolution of complexity fail? We don't know? We do know that this common ancestor was already a very complex cell. It had more or less same sophistication as one of your cells, and it passed this great complexity on not just to you and me but to all its descendants, from trees to bees. l challenge you to look at one of your own cells down a microscope and distinguish it from the cells of a mushroom. They are practically identical. l don't live much like a mushroom, so why are my cells so similar? It's not just that they look alike. All Complex life shares an astonishing catalogue of elaborate traits, from sex to cell suicide to senescence, none of which is seen in a comparable a form in bacteria. There is no agreement about why so many unique traits accumulated in that single ancestor, or why none of them shows any sign of evolving independently in bacteria. Why, if all of these traits arose by natural selection, in which each step offers some small advantage, did equivalent traits not arise on other occasions in various bacterial groups?
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>>702796289
I remember where I was. In a field with a bunch of other dirty hippies.
remember what specifically?
not everything
just the things I want to remember
novel moments
camaraderie
existentialisms
etc.

Although I wouldn't call it being "awakened" any more than taking LSD is "unlocking your brain". They're basically what other people call God. A simpler way to express complex concepts that otherwise do not engage your limbic system.
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>>702796341
Everything is equally real and unreal in infinity. There is no separation of the two.
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>>702796443
Indeed.

One must first experience the darkness to see the light.
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>>702796583
I like you. You made me smile.
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>>702796651
Well yeah he made brazen accusations of the state of awareness that the collective of /b/ is in the moment after he said "ive been reading psychology lately..."

Just like a hipster would. "Im an expert even though i just started reading some cool wikipedia articles about plato and new agey stuff and then wahh hurr durr im enlightened." Pretty much in that order.
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>>702796888
>what is scope
Scope failure. Everything is not equally real and unreal in infinity, because there is no defined parameter as to what possess this quality of being of infinite.

If you mean states, then if there are infinite states, there cannot be equal states of quality X and quality Y, because the states now do not
>have
a boundary. They continue, "forever". To suggest that they would definitely have equal counterparts, even assuming dichotomy, is ludicrous for an infinite set of sets, because there only exists a non-finite limit for their quantity.

Unless what you just said is wholly mired by abstraction, in which case you meant to suggest that
>everything has qualities
>distinction is irrelevant
Which I both acknowledge and refuse to acknowledge because of the implications.
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>>702796583
Truth can come from many places. All truths are equal what ever their source. But if it breaks down under challenge, then it is no truth at all.

The truth is a very tricky thing. So few things are absolute truths.
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>>702796705
Something much similar exists in the realm of physics, I would highly recommend looking into the holographic universe theory. I liked the metaphor that if you were to take a holographic picture of a rose and shot a laser through it, you would get a rose. But if you cut it in half, (with two lasers) you would see two pictures of two roses. This can be said about a grain of sand, and the entire universe.
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>>702797318
In infinity, up is down and down is up. Nothing must exists, yet everything must exist. You cannot grasp infinity unless you are infinite.
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>>702783354
u still have to get a job faggot
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>>702783448
yea, we are
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>>702797445
Truth can only be truth if all parties agree that what is, is. Since all parties cannot agree (due to the unique nature of each individual), there are no absolute truths.
You assert that there are truths.
I assert that there are no truths.
Are there truths?
It's paradoxical.
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>>702797758
can't make me
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>>702796583
Well this is fucking horseshit.

The guy who first theorized that dna exists in a double-helix form thought of the idea while tripping balls.
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>>702797798
Truths do not have to be agreed upon, they are self evident.
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>>702785702
>I've eaten psychedelics literally a hundred times and never once seriously concluded I was [more than this body and mind]
that's because you're not good at it. you're probably also kind of stupid, no offense
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>>702785655

lol dis nigga got all wrong
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>>702786394

This dude thinks the universe can be explained with science. Cute.
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>>702797798
Truth only exists when it is named thusly. Justice is defined by the hand that claims it.
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>>702797925
I disagree.
Is your statement true or false?
It is both. That's what i'm saying. Asserting that there are absolute truths is false because things are both true and untrue depending on the observer.
You're right and you're wrong. Deal with it.
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>>702797612
>semantics
Well, I'm going to choose to stop listening to you right there.

Because you are not grasping
>>702796341
I wake up, and often I have no concept of time. There is no then, now, later, soon, after. Any of my recollections of things, moments, collapse into one. There is no distinction.

Everything seemingly collapses into one moment. I look at my hands, and I don't even feel
>there
>real
I don't even feel as if I'm simply in my bed, rather than I am actively in all of the moments I can grasp, at once. I fail to grasp where I am.


For a brief moment, I'm every state I ever was prior to the moment I stare at the wall. I have a very solid (pun intended) grip on unreals and reals. I'd be willing to put forth that I very much understand what it feels like to be "infinite", and it's a horrible feeling when you aren't completely in disarray.

Can't make this shit up.
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>>702797965
kek

I am sorry, peace and prosperity and all that, but if something is funny it just is.
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>>702786082
>experiences ego death
>doesn't understand ego death
yeah no you didn't champ
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>>702798099
Infinity is self evident and true because contained within it is everything.
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>>702786394
field theory and all other high math is just another way to describe what op is saying. yes he sounds like a faggot but he's not wrong
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>>702785702
There are accepted rules and methods for psychedelics. It is self evident that if you want to be high, you'll get high. If you truly, truly want to see who god really is, you will find your own answer. It simply seems you don't desire to know/are in fear of your own existence
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>>702798091
Truth and justice are not synonymous.
A Pear is a Pear if you call it a Pear and others recognize it as a Pear, doesn't matter if it's actually an apple. That is Justice.
Truth is that it's an Apple and everyone's retarded.
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>>702786615
>anonymous image board
what
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>>702785971
so you are telling me natural numbers do exist? There's no difference between natural numbers, imaginary numbers or any (well-defined) mathematical concept at all when it comes to the question of existence.
To go even further, the same rules apply to any scientific theory. In the end, all concepts of the mind can be perceived as being on the same level of existence, even our concept of existence itself.
Thus, either everything (including everything our minds come up with) is real and exists in this world, or nothing does.
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>>702787160
nirvana. for a few hours. then you come back
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I really adore spirituality and hermetic and shamanic practices but faggots like you really make it unattractive as hell.
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>>702789498
>Psychedelics is just a tool like any else, the real trick is knowing how to use them
this, ive met lots of people who have no clue what it's all about
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>>702790195
you have some serious emotional issues
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>>702790195
>said the recent graduate with massive student debt
why do you project and attack others for being happy
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>>702798286
>Infinity is self evident and true
Infinity is a concept that cannot be (is) because it does not exist in nature and has no "self" to be self-evident.
Infinity is not "true".
What you described as infinity was self-fulfilling concept because you claim it is what it is defined as. This is not proof or verification. These concepts merely exist.
You have proven nothing.
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>>702790195
Please open your mind. Just because something is foreign/unconventional/unfamiliar to you, doesn't mean it is wrong. Who's to say what's right? Everything is subjective. His way of thinking is not any more "right" or "wrong" than yours. His priorities are different.
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>>702798719
Many in this thread.
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>>702799105
Nature is just another part of infinity.
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>>702799347
Define closed-mindedness without referencing another post.
Go.

I'll give you a hint, it's not disagreeing with new ideals after considering preexisting knowledge and deeming the new ideal unfit.
(which is likely going on)
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>>702799557
How about I define open-mindedness?

Open-mindedness is being aware that there is no right or wrong, and there are no absolute truths. That's it. Anything else is being close-minded
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>>702783354
I've never seen that term, "The Any". Only nobody can seem to be somebody. And nobody is no-thing. Nobody's rejection of not being a somebody is pretty strange and funny when you're established in nobodiness. But it is also easy to intellectualize the way of it so that there appears to be a somebody who knows truth, which would of course be back into paradox, no? Mind will come and claim the grandest, most subtle and profound concepts. Be vigilant!
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>>702799557
Rejecting new ideas based not upon their credibility, but upon how they make you feel about them.
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>>702799921
The Any, it just came to me.

One can act the part without believing to be it.
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The thing about "open-mindedness" (as used by people who are all about 'woo') is that that kind of open mind allows for a lot of bullshit to get in.

The good kind of open-mindedness is acknowledging that one might be wrong and needs to put the effort into learning (science, math) to understand the truth. Unlike the wooers ITT.
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>>702783354
> That we are all infinite beings and that we are only playing the human game.

looks like someone just found out about Buddhism. fuck off faggot
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>>702799473
Wow, buddy. You don't get it, do you?
Infinity does not exist. Point to infinity. Infinity does not exist in any natural form that we can all observe and all agree upon. It is a concept created explicitly to describe what cannot be pointed to and agreed upon.
What it seems like to me is that you're trying to say that infinity is a concept used to describe everything all at once. This is the definition. You keep repeating facets of the definition as if it were an argument. It's not.
It is true that the concept of infinity exists.
Infinity is defined as limitless bounds.
This does not prove that truths are truths or truths even exist.
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>>702787160
Words are misleading. When you "remember" that you're everything you also know that you are no-thing, and that as no-thing, nothing has ever happened to you. You could also say we forget everything to remember nothing, but to be more specific, when we forget the personal attachments to the world and life-story of this seeming individual that we call "I", then immediately we glimpse freedom-peace. What is left is to abide there, beyond the growing recognition of the illusion called life, the world, etc.
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>>702783354
we are all the same and all into the same shit... the game is to hide it all until you either explode or handle your shit
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>>702800206
Thank you.
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>>702800206
This reality is just a mere shadow of the truth, we are all infinity, we have no boundary except those we choose to create.
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>>702800206
>It is true that the concept of infinity exists
(between the two of us at a minimum)

>This does not prove that truths are truths or truths even exist.
(beyond the definition of the word infinity to the two of us, right now)

Just clearing it up for your drugged-up ass.
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>>702800206
Also contained within the image that started this thread is infinity. Or one sort of infinity, there are many.
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>>702800145
>The thing about "open-mindedness" (as used by people who are all about 'woo') is that that kind of open mind allows for a lot of bullshit to get in.
this
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>>702800061
Indeed, and the awoken person is also an act. Who is there to wake up to anything?
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>>702800367
I give up. Keep being trans-infinite or whatever
>>702800441
in case you needed more clarification on why you're retarded and using words incorrectly
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>>702800519
the awoken person may either use his abilities to obtain anything he desires and hurt anybody without directing anything insulting at them or he will go insane unsure of how to control his powers
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>>702800453
it is finite because there are a finite amount of pixels
Go be dumb somewhere else
At best it's a poor representation of what infinity looks like at any given point.
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>>702800441
All negative expressions directed at the ones you think are separate from you only exposes your own insecurity of your existence. The ideas scare you so much that you cannot even let them into your mind as you feel they threaten your very being itself. And they do.
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>>702800518
It's just stupid people who need to feel smart about something, so they come up with all this shit and pretend they're wise. The "next step" in their "spiritual evolution" is starting a youtube channel like Spirit Science.
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>>702800640
The awoken person understands that it will only hurt himself and therefore choose not to.
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I KILL NIGGERS. FOR THE GLOBAL CONSCIOUSNESS.
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>>702800727
it's pretty sad that this woo is all they've got to give meaning to their lives
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>>702800661
>let me just write you a story about my perception of you despite not understanding simple fucking abstract concepts.
Please don't take my use of pejoratives as proof of your concept. It's not. I just like calling you retarded in the hopes that you'll realize that you're retarded and seek help.

My mind is neither open or closed. It merely is as defined by the majority, not your drug-addled brain.
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>>702800364
It's a lost cause.
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>>702800640
>>702800818
There is no awoken person. Talk that seems to be coming from an awoken person deserves a proper cane-smacking of the most compassionate intent. Talk of the illusion around those deeply embedded results only in confusion and rejection. Someone will not rip off their bandaid if they think there's still a wound healing under it. Silence is your way.
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>>702800818
not true tv uses that shit all the time and they seem fine
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BEAVERS. GLOBAL BEAVER SUBMISSIVE TRANS-BEAVER POPULATION CONTROL AGENDA... DAMN BEAVERS.
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>>702801003
There no concepts as you understand them. You think them separate from reality, where as nothing could be less true as they could not exist without it.
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>>702801100
i tend to not wear a bandaid so i can watch it heal but i see your point
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>>702801178
YOU FUCKING CUNT GTFOH WIT'CHA CIS-BEAVER AGENDA, NUCKING FORMIE
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>>702801100
Awoken enough. Not truly yet though, but that is semantics.
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>>702801238
The point is that there is no wound, because there is not one to be wounded or to need a band aid. >>702801421
Awakening is the absence of a person, and the presence of a person is the absence of awakening. There can seem to be a transitional middle ground, but that is from the perspective of the person.
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>>702801178
Hold on while I write you a story about a unicorn with a conical horn.
Now that I've defined it as a concept, surely it exists in reality, right?
Concepts do come from reality but that is not proof or verification that the concept actually exists in a tangible form.
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THUS IS NOE A BEAVER THREAD. ALL HAIL BEAVERS

>IF YIU DINT REPLY TO DIS POST YIUR TRAP-CRUSH WON'T CUM IN HIS SLEEP TONIGHT
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>>702801559
Still living this perspective, and so are you. There is a reason for that.
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>>702801757
>>702801416
>>702801140
try-harder
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>>702801752
All things that can be imagined can only be imagined because they exists, somewhere, in some time.
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