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>sept 2016: mfw firearms still being sold to anyone just like candy
>mfw a gun ban = 0 unnecessary innocent lives taken away
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>>702762131
>barring people from legally purchasing guns will prevent people from having access to guns

Do you realize how stupid that is, and you are?
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>>702762131
sure works in Chicago
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>>702762309
Shut the fuck up anon. It worked for drugs, it can work for guns too
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>>702762309
No, I dont
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inb4 325 posts
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>>702762131
Actually thats more likte the 1st panel
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Went to a gun shop today (Australia) and power there says he sells on average 49 guns a day - somehow we don't have mass shootings ay.
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>>702762450
>it worked for drugs

Sure it did
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>>702762710
he meant gums, aka trident
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>>702762710
Autocorrect just turned a misspelt owner into power.
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This
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>>702762450
>>702762804
Not him, but you realize he was being sarcastic, right?
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>>702762131
>implying he won't get a gun illegally
>implying he couldn't kill people with a knife, or a car, or a bomb
>implying your bleeding heart from Newtown puts your feewings ahead of my safety
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>>702762997
Sure he was
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>>702762131

because banning guns also means that they're removed from the world completely.

>we just take all the guns in the whole world, even buried, broken, and non-functioning ones; we just take them all and make a sacrifice to the volcano gods and then we shall all be blessed by instant world peace and no violence will ever happen again.


shut the fuck OP, you dense dipshit.
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>>702762131
Counter argument: The world is overpopulated. Let em die.
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lol americunts. you used to be cool
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>>702762131
1 shot 1 kill
It's no wonder they limit to 7 rounds per clipazine.
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>>702763384
you sound like albert wesker, I am okay with this
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>>702762450
>>702762450
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I think the problem we have (at least in America, where I'm from) isn't with how many firearms we have around, it's a problem with our culture.

People are growing up here without becoming socialized, and become adults without effective conflict resolution strategies. They either don't learn how to deescalate things, or they don't respect each other enough to compromise so that things aren't too terrible for anyone involved.

Throw in current political and racial tensions, and the fact that guns are easy to get if you don't have a record is the least of our problems.

Besides, look at what happened in Nice. When guns are not available, bad people will get creative. Problem is, now the citizens are defenseless until the police arrive.
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when will these fucking cucks realize that banning shit will only make things worse for the average law abiding citizens?

>muh banning guns will save everyone

no dumbass , that will just leave regular joe blows like you and I defenseless against the gangs and domestic terrorists and the tyranny of the government.

>b-b-b-b muh ban will work
the same way it worked for prohibition?
the same way it worked for drugs?
you dont see cocaine or heroin or meth anywhere since it was made illegal do ya?
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In sweden
>Spend like 180-1000$ on hunting degree or some shit
>make you know how to shoot good and safely
>why to hunt and why it's good
>get a weapon safe
>send request to the police for each gun you own

The things I want to add personally is an interview by the police or some Psychologists

>Criminals and nazist can get there guns taken away
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>>702762131
>>702762131
>Implying prohibition works
>Implying the last panel wouldn't be a gang of niggers killing every law abiding white person
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>>702764502
Why would criminals and nazis not buy on the black market? They're already criminals and/or nazis. Why do they give a fuck about a weapons charge, and how do the police find them?
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>>702764256
>defenseless against the gangs and domestic terrorists and the tyranny of the government.
> tyranny of the government.
> government
Go ahead and reach for that legally owned gun in front of a cop. See what you get, citizen.

You gonna start crying #rednecklivesmatter now?
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>>702762131
>Have to present ID to purchase candy
>Subject to a background check for candy
I Shiggydiggy
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>>702765150
>get stopped for whatever
>inform cop that you have a gun and will hand it over
>hand it to cop safely
>he checks it out
>get gun back
>get ticket or whatever
>go about business
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>>702765150
Judge Dredd pls go
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>>702762440
Thank you.
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>>702765150
>implying not white
>implying i will be harmed in any way physically
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>>702765492
White: the post
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>>702765492
>>702765508
thank you for not being retarded people. you give me a speck of hope for this world
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>>702765508
no argument pls go
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You assume killing is bad thing and everyone deserves to live. This is not true.

Arm everyone, assholes purged. World is better.
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>>702762131
sure stoped the France shooting.
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>>702765492
lol dont tell him you have a gun dipfuck. why would you do that
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>>702764847
Ye but gun owners that drink and drive can get there gun taken away and the same thing with nazis

Inb4 yes state see those who drink and drive more possible to use the gun to harm people
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>>702763998
I like your philosophy. Tell me, anon, what sports are you interested in?
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>>702762131
GTFO you CTR shill, you're logic is flawed and you're simply a complete moron
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>>702765943
because terrorism is comparable to shooting people randomly for fun like the good old American pastime it is
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>>702765859
Argue with what? A scenario that will only result in a "yah huh" "nuh uh" jibber jabber? How about we just cut all that shit, call each other faggots, go off to another thread to jerk off, and call it a night. That's what i'm doin.
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>>702765460
things got real rough after my rape conviction.
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>>702762131
>literally stating that gang shootings result in 0 unnecessary innocent deaths
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>>702762131
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>>702762131
Do tell us OP, what will stop people from getting guns illegally? Also tell us about the gun death statistics of your country. You don't know shit. There's no way to ban guns. Pass all the laws you want but good luck collecting them all. You'd also have to rewrite a laws that define what a gun is, since I build my own using standard parts that I bought at my local gun shop. No license and I have a totally unregistered and legal AR-15. Also, what stops the crazies from using other weapons? You're either underage b& or just totally braindead retarded.
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>>702766000
because he generally already knows when he's sees the 6-10 point dead deer laying in the back of your truck.

of course, you could probably just hide your gun under your organically grown romaine salad with oil n vinegar dressing and vente double mocca frappicino.
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Every single anti-gun person out there is a potential rapist and/or pedophile whose only goal is to make sure people they wish to target have no guns.
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>>702766599
still, in most states you have no obligation to state you have a fire arm if a cop doesnt ask
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>>702763841
Complete global castration.
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>>702766694
I think you're jumping the gun
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>>702765150
The idea isn't that the armed citizenry will be able to effectively combat the combined arms offensive of a modern military, it's more so that when the government is forced to wipe the floor with its own citizens, it will lose legitimacy to the rest of the world, and someone will send help. Probably either Russia or China, looking to destabilize their rival, or one of the NATO allies, seeing what the the US had become.

Of course, with elections the way they are, I don't see this ever happening. Government figures who don't do what their substituents want them to do will be replaced, and things will continue pretty much how they are: not too great, but really nowhere near as bad as they could be.
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>>702766694
i dont want that sexy 6yo neighbor girl to have a gun and im not a rapist nor a pedophile
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>>702766269
As fare as i know Americans that shoot each other up for fun isn't really a argument because normally there are actuall motivations behind each shootings. The only shooting that I think was "for fun" was the shooting at the movie theater. No matter what you do guns will always be attained by those who would do harm to others all your doing is preventing law abiding citizens from protecting themselves.
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>>702766895
...yet.
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>>702766808
>168x94
>Complete global castration.

I literally imagined Wesker saying this post in a high pitched chipmunk voice. I'm dying.
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>>702766127
Sports? Really, I'm more of a gamer, myself. I do run when I get around to it, though.
I haven't really competed in anything since high school.
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>>702767170
You're welcome anon.

Now I am too.
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>>702762131
>mfw a gun ban = 0 unnecessary innocent lives taken away
u shillin'?
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You take the guns away from innocent citizens then there defenseless from criminals who will still get the guns
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>>702765795
it's not his fault that a nigger can't communicate like a normal human being.
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Better to be a warrior in a garden then a gardener in a war
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>>702766723
because people tend it to do it on their own motivation regardless.
If you show politeness and courtesy to make both his job easier and your process faster, fines can go down and tickets can be forgotten...
Cops are still humans, you know...
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>>702762804
it was b8 m8
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>>702766723
Seeing as he's trained to spot concealed weapons, and giving it to him earlier in the encounter can only make it go more smoothly than if he finds it on his own, it's probably for the best...
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>>702762131
>People WON'T just start running people over with cars...

Hell if nothing else, we should all start trying to tell people to make mass vehicular homocide the new thing.
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If guns were banned, would the anti-gun faggots go around taking them? I mean physically confronting gun owners and removing the firearm with their own fucking hands? Nope, they are too chickenshit. Instead they actually believe they could hire mercenaries, who carry guns, to do it for them. And then those mercs would just destroy their weapons afterward because shiny happy people power!

Good fucking luck, assholes.
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>>702762309

Let me post a list of shootings in Australia since the gun reforms:
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>>702766553
kek
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>>702768434
no really. if he sees you have a concealed gun then you suck and should probably just kill yourself with the sawed off 12 gauge in your skinny jeans
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>>702768605
2000 points!
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>>702764847
Do You fucking know how expensive black market guns are in Europe? Typical neonazi won't sacrifice 15000€ to get a handgun, he would buy a knife
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>>702768605
Thread
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>implying niggers can't make their own weapons
Did you forget about the Boston Marathon bombings?
It wasn't really important, but it serves my point today.
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>>702768665
Thank dog they stopped one specific type of crime
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>>702769129
Not that expensive cuz some PC journalist went to Germany and got one cheap, then took it back it to Sweden where he handed it over to the police.
Plot twist, police arrested him for giving money to the criminals
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>>702768499

It's VERY simple actually. So simple even a Downie like you should be able to follow it:

MOST CRIMINALS' GUNS STARTED OFF AS LEGALLY PURCHASED FIREARMS THAT WERE THEN STOLEN FROM INEXCUSABLY NEGLIGENT OWNERS THANKS TO THE NRA'S STANCE ON NOT REQUIRING SAFE STORAGE OR USER TRAINING TO OWN A DEADLY WEAPON.
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One gun holder, one bullet, one person.

One truck, one driver, undefined. Make way for the religion of peace...or don't (which is ideal).
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>>702769130

/newfag
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>>702768649
The way it would work in the real world is that the government would institute a lucrative buyback program, and apply social pressure over the course of at least a decade to lower the number of firearms in private ownership naturally. Expect social programs like "common sense" gun control, bans on "assault weapons," tax stamps for handguns, and then for large caliber rifles, and finally for semi shotguns and rifles. There will be media campaigns to win support for these measures, and they will seem reasonable at the time.

Nobody's coming for your guns rifle in hand, they'll come for your grandkids' guns before they even want to own them.
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>>702769636
source
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>>702762131
Yeah cause it worked so well with alcohol, cocaine, and heroin.
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>>702769670
ha
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>>702769636
Not imported from old communistic countries
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>>702769129
OUR NEW MISSION: BUY EVERY NEO-NAZI/RADICAL-MUSLEM IN UK A FUCKING FORD 4X4, AND WATCH THE BEAUTIFUL SHITSTORM THAT ENSUES!!!!!
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>>702762131
What is it that morons like you don't understand? If a gun ban were enacted, is it truly your belief that criminals capable of murder would just willingly hand over their guns? How dense are you? Criminals don't care about laws, that's why they kill and steal and rape. At this point, since firearms are already so integrated and prevalent in the US, the only thing to do is make the criminals fear the victims. Arm every citizen who wishes to protect themself and others when police are not around to do it. Imo, the only problem right now is states who don't issue a thorough background check before seeking a firearm. Besides that, there is no better alternative.
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>>702762450
imma grow me some glocks in me basement ...
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>>702769732
this.
the sudden realization of how accurate and in the newr future this will take effect
depresses me
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>>702769732

>the next generation is smarter than you

>IT'S A GUBBMINT CONSPIRASHEE!!
>They don't want gunz cuz HITLER!

Fucking lel.
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>>702770172
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OoBwLVXpFc

You really can. With a milling machine, lathe, and a small press, you could reasonably graduate to ar-18s or maybe to some bastardized AK like monstrosity.
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>>702762450
>drugs are illegal
>literally nobody in the world has ever used drugs or has ever distributed or produced drugs ever since the de-legalization of drugs

surejan.jpg
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>>702770526
Not really so much a conspiracy as a societal shift in a direction most of the denizens of this thread dislike.

We should oppose this in politics, because we disagree with it, but democracy may so will it anyway.
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>>702762131
should we also ban assault trucks?
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>>702762131
Gun ban is working great in Chicago.
Prohibition always works. I mean look at the prohibition on marijuana, or the alcohol prohibition of alcohol in the 1920s
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Man OP, this bait worked really well!
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>>702770264
I don't think this necessarily has to happen, though. There's starting to be some pushback against the far left, and given the proper prodding, they'll eat themselves alive to try to win the oppression Olympics.

If American gun culture steps it up on organizing politically, educating owners how to use firearms responsibly, and generally being respectable, a lot of this can be avoided. Good gun owners can't be the invisible majority in a sea of criminals.
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>>702771175
Yeah exactly !
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THIS>>702768605

Question: When playing vidya games like, lets say GTA for instance, how many "innocent civilians" have you killed with guns? Now compare that number in your head the number of the poor virtual fuckers you've mowed over with a Hummer. Let them take our guns, an average nut job can easily DOUBLE the current high-score, even with one of those shitty "smart cars."

NOTHING WILL CHANGE.
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>>702771068
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>>702762309
>illegally purchasing guns is easy and cheap
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UK is #1 in violence in EU but 13th in murders

Gun bans work
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>>702762131
swede here. im glad sweden is at "0 deaths" right now but truth is usa is at "2 deaths" and it's too late to move down to "0 deaths". banning guns will only move you guys up to "7 deaths".
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>>702762131
>2016
>obesity kills more than guns
>haven't banned forks

NT, OP. 4/10
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>>702771875
I'd gladly trade my guns for this.
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>>702772018
>you need to eat
>you dont need guns for anything.
implying laws arent being made to ban stuff to stop obesity. Look at bans on large sodas in some states
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>>702762710
we do have mass shootings, they just reclassified what mass means. we have quite a few single target shootings too, almost 100 with illegally imported or home made guns.
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>>702771949
Citation needed.
Is that a per-capita statistic, a poll, a summary of all incidents?

Give me your sources, nigger.
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>>702771875
Sorry, forgot to label the most important part!

Ironically, the base model is actually from Australia.
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>>702766553
i sure as fuck wish they had a black at the back of that line but NAH THAT WOULD BE RACIST
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>>702762131
>People actually taking the bait this hard.
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>>702762450
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>>702772167
look it up yourself lazy faggot. This isnt your reddit. we aint got no need for no citation

and it's per capita
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>>702772001
Didnt some niggnoggs shoot up a bar in Gothenburg?
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>>702772255
>look it up yourself lazy faggot.
Post discarded.
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>>702762131
>bait.
4/10 made me post.
faggot.
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>>702769463
tl;dr, what a bad image
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>>702772265
i think so? i dont really follow the news
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>>702762440
>Citing exactly one city as a case example.
I'm pro-guns but please stop making this retarded argument.
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>>702771923
In many places in Commiefornia that's actually true. Not the places that youd want to live but it's there.
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>>702765911
I like this idea
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>>702772489
>0 deaths
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Without guns, the nigger population will skyrocket.

Think about that
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>>702772199
give 1 of these for every 4 nigs in chicago, gun crimes/murders will go to 0. death tolls will sky rocket, but hey, at least the liberals will be happy.
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>>702762131

hey, dude,
tell me again how will you "ban" guns which are already in gangster's and "crazypeople"'s hands
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>>702772155
I need a gun to eat, ya dip.

>b-b-but sodas....
You can still gorge yourself on as much food as you want, or wash your fried chicken down with a milkshake.
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>>702772737
you were not supposed to take "0 death" literally, i was just quoting what OP's image illustrated
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>>702762440
Yeah because it's really difficult to just go to another state and get a gun.

Fucking retard
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The real problem in USA is relative normies killing people.

Criminals will always have guns. The crazy people who go on mass shootings Falling Down style don't have to have guns.
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>>702774288
He was being sarcastic dipshit.
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Dont guns bought legally have serial numbers or records of where people live etc? Would be easy to see who still has a gun (aside from criminals which will always be a problem)
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>>702762131

>innocent lives taken.

> innocent
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>>702774526
No fucking shit. He said it worked for Chicago meaning it didn't work for Chicago. Banning guns in one city will do nothing if you can just go to another city and get a gun.

Fucking retard
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BAIT: The Thread
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>>702764847
Well if you have the criminal intent you would get it either way. That's not the point.

But if you wouldn't have it around everywhere you wouldn't consider using it.

So getting a gun when it's banned you would have to go through a shit load of risks which those beta-schoolshooters wont
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>>702762131
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>>702762131
Hopefully you're next
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Hello, OP. Im Brazilian.

Here we have 200 milion piece of shits - peoples. Guns are not allowed in here for years, and yet, 40.974 piece of shits are assassined per year

USA, with a nigger president and 300 milion fat retards, have 12.996 fat boys killed per years

so go fuck youself
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>>702764256
Worked in Australia
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>>702762131

If you seriously believe that you belong in a nuthouse.
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>>702768665
There's shootings just about every week you fucking retard.
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>>702762131
>Sold to anyone just like candy.
Wrong.
>People can't kill people with knives.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/world/japan-knife-attack-deaths/

At least 19 dead... with a knife.
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>>702775004
The knife crimes went way up, over the gun killings, even.
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And stabbings?
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OP is a massive faggot. obvious bait.
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>>702762131
Nice bait fagbag
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>>702775004
Does "Worked" include continued shootings, including shooting murders?

Does it include no attributable difference in the homocide rate?
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Australia here, we dont seem to have many shootings at all, was just wondering why that could be?
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>>702775394
Except your murder rate remained the same as the pre-ban numbers. Nice try though, faggot.
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>>702775272
Give me one example of a mass shooting since port arthur boi
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>>702775394
Australia has plenty of guns. There are just very few niggers.
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>>702775099
not wrong you fucking mong. and yeah in a fucking disabled facility where cunts cant run, try that shit in a school and there'd be 2 maybe 3 deaths. America is a third world country with a first world economy but you retards can't see it probably because you can't open your eyes due to the fat
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u cant stop murder as a whole, but u can at least prevent fuckheads from trying
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Uk had a school shooting, in 1996. 17 kids died. Banned handguns. One mass shooting since.
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>>702769129
I can get one for 300 in chicago
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The problem isn't necessarily guns. The problems is how easy it is to obtain them and literally how many retards there are in America with mental issues and criminal backgrounds.

If people would actually take background checks seriously, it would probably be different.
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at least untrained police here in aus arent scared triggerhappy at the possibility of a suspect having a gun. which seems to be causing plenty of problems over there
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>>702762131
>mfw he thinks banning/restricting guns effects the people who intend to use them illegally
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>>702775706
im from germany and while having strict gun control and no assault weapons help prevent nutjobs from commiting mass shootings , criminals still shoot each others at drug deals occasionally
what prevents gun crime is a good mental healthcare system, good secret services and welfare to keep the societal trash from resorting to crime to get money
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>>702775619
Wrong, again.

I've worked for a chain of stores that sold firearms. Every time a background check down by the FBI prior to any sell. Sometimes people were denied and sometimes they were fine. But, no one hands them out like candy except criminals. Sorry to burst your bubble, faggot. But removing guns doesn't prevent people from murdering.

Here you go:
http://www.mining.com/fifty-killed-in-a-knife-attack-at-a-chinese-colliery/

50 people killed in a knife attack.

Go fuck yourself, faggot. You don't even know what you're talking about.
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>>702776399
Every time a background check was done *
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>>702776337
This nigger gets it.

Crime is a social problem, not a hardware problem.
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>>702762131
I have to go through a background check to buy a snickers now?
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>>702776337
>more welfare
More won't be enough . It never will be enough .
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>>702774542
Nope.
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>>702776447
Just compare the figures from Aus and NZ, NZ has more guns per capita and allows semi's yet it has a significantly lower gun death figure per capita, especially if you remove suicides.
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>>702762131

Pic related is your mentality.
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>>702762131
>sept 2016: mfw firearms still being sold to anyone just like candy
>mfw a gun ban = 0 unnecessary innocent lives taken away

I agree with you, but please feel free to share a suggestion as to how that could be done in a country where there are as many guns as people.
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>>702776722
Just ban them anon, they will dissappear by themselves, and it's impossible more will be imported/manufactured illegally.
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>>702776624
This!
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Holy fucking christ.
How many people fell for this troll?

Is this Reddit?
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>>702776624
It has to do with the possible impact of gun use. A person with a bat would kill 2 maybe 3 people before he can be subdued. A gunman could kill many more if he was so motivated.

The same reason why we don't make atomic's accessible to everyone is because even though only a nutter would fire a nuke, the impact from even a single nutter is incredible.
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>>702776790
it's been said before, and i'll say it again. if you outlaw guns, the only people who will have guns are outlaws. besides, even in countries where guns are banned, you can get them anyway. Prime example, Australia, if you're a hunter, you can have a rifle for hunting. Who's to say that hunter won't go crazy someday and use that same rifle to hunt people instead of wildlife? Banning guns is pointless, they'll always be around, whether it's legit or not, so the only thing you can do is try to control their distribution to those who shouldn't have them. Because honestly, most of the people who commit crimes with guns, didn't have them legally anyway, so what the fuck do they care if you ban em?

I know someone is going to say. "well if they're banned, how can they always be around?" Okay... let's say you pass a law that bans me from having a rifle, or a handgun. Sure, take it, but I'm resourceful enough that if I felt like killing someone with a gun, I could make one. Sure, it'd be primitive, and most likely non-rifled barrel, but it'd still get the job done, and zero regulations on it. So go ahead, ban guns, it won't do shit to end gun violence.
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Problem with a gun ban is all guns manufactured and sold prior to the ban would not be included so you'll have all the guns still floating around and just no new weapons entering circulation. This is due to the ex post facto clause in the constitution. The same thing happened with the assault weapons ban that banned automatic weapons. A complete ban is unconstitutional and impractical.
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>>702762131
>>mfw a gun ban = 0 unnecessary innocent lives taken away

>mfw people think only guns can kill in mass numbers
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>>702777361
The saddest part of this is that a knife in a night club would be more devastating than a gun would ever be, by the time anyone noticed, the fatality count would be over any gun-related mass killing.
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>>702777258
I'm Australian, and a firearms owner, sorry my sarcasm didn't survive the internet. We have an abdundance of illegal firearms here, our last ban put the nail in the coffin of putting a lid on them seeing as ~20% of firearms banned were ever handed in and our criminal elements importin/manufacture them at will.
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>>702777268
a good example is that although it's expensive as fuck, it's perfectly legal for any citizen to own a minigun manufactured before 1986.
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>>702777553
ah, gotcha.
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>>702777462
exactly. people in China have gone on stabbing sprees for years. That psycho who attacked disabled people in Japan recently used a knife too I think.

I mean, look at the pansy fucking Brits, and their knife collection bins? Stores where you have to be a legal adult to buy fucking forks....

Once guns are banned, knives will be next. This isn't a slippery slope fallacy, it's reality, and we know it is, because we see it elsewhere.

If there is one thing people have known how to do for 100,000 years, it is kill each other, without guns. People like OP are retarded if they think violence will end just because you take away a person's legal right to carry means of self defense. Or, as in their actual pic, defense of others.
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>>702762131
Ok americunts I live in the fucking shit hole of Romania ,a place where gypsies <that are actually ultra niggers ,combining the money love of the jews with the gang type of behavior and stupidity of the niggers> walk around everywhere but still we don't have the need to buy 10000 dildo guns to feel safe . There haven't been even 1 single mass shooting since the fucking revolution in 89 and if there is something that we learned from that is that giving someone retarded the right to easily purchase a gun is <spoiler> a bad idea . Yeah maybe people will find a gun on the black market but that will slowly die off if the cops are not retared and they actually start looking for people who sell guns . The black market will slowly die off and it dosen't there will still be a lot less of armed niggers cauase not every tard can get on a blackmarket .
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>>702777907
FUCKING LOST
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>>702769463
I looked up some of that stuff. That crocodile dundee dude was a meth addict who opened fire on cops in an ambush attack because he was hallucinating about freemasons.

That shit is awesome.
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>>702777897
but any tard can make homemade gunpowder (or use a decent firecracker) and stuff it into a metal tube, closed on one end, with some kind of projectile on the other end. it doesn't matter what anyone says, black market, cops, alien intervention, guns aren't going anywhere.
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>>702777897
Your country is the size of one of our smallest states. You don't have enough people to make a black market in guns feasible. Every state in America is big enough to make it's OWN black market feasible.

All your incredible insight into how the world works is based on a country the size of a few of our largest cities. We have cities that have bigger populations than your entire fuckign country.

Are you getting it now? The sheer scale of what you are trying to propose? The only more populous country is China, and the USA is STILL bigger.
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>>702778422
not in these large numbers
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>>702778559
Doesn't need to be in large numbers, criminals generally make up a small minority in any populace
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>>702762845
>implying the crazy violent gangs arent perpetuated by easy as fuck firearm attainment
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>>702778481
>Your country is the size of one of our 'Murica. You don't have enough 'Murica to make a black market in guns feasible. Every state in 'Murica is big enough to make it's OWN black market feasible.

>All your incredible insight into how the world works is based on a country the size of a few of our largest 'Murica. We have 'Murica's that have bigger 'Muricas than your entire fuckign country.

>Are you getting it now? The sheer 'murica of what you are trying to propose? The only more populous country is China, and the USA is STILL 'Murica.
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>>702778673
In Aus they're manufacturing their own firearms, so try again.
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>>702762131
>europe bans guns
>has shootings on weekly basis
>a UK PM was gunned down in broad daylight a few months ago during the Brexit frenzy

Done good.
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America's problem pretty obviously isn't guns. They could make them illegal I wouldn't give a fuck but it's pretty obvious nothing would change. We got Mexico right next door and there are already enough guns in circulation to last forever. Other countries have guns and don't have the problems we have.

If I were to guess what the issue really is its that we have an entire race of people who are descended from slaves that we bred for work like dogs for hundreds of years crowded into impoverished cities and strung the fuck out of their minds on drugs. On top of that the USA consumes pretty much all the drugs produced in the world, have shit diets, sedentary soul crushing jobs, and have no parents.

Shit is about to get real hard if we don't stop being PC and sit down and talk about this shit.
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>>702762131

Listen up scrub. We Could ban guns make them "harder for normie to buy"

But then what do you do when someone with an illigal weapon shows up? "Oh no somebody stop that person!" too bad normies dont have guns?

Normies die. Bad guys still win. What was the law for. Muh freedoms
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>>702762450

LOL WHAT ROCK DO YOU LIVE UNDER?
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>>702778673
From My Cold Dead Hands
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>>702779002
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>>702777897
Population of under 20 million.
What the fuck makes you think you have shit to tell us? We have 330 million people. And outside of 4chan, I doubt you've ever seen or dealt with actual niggers. Fuck, we have more niggers than your nation has people. And then we have latinos, and gang culture fueled with massive drug trafficking culture.
We have nigger media (music, movies, tv shows) that glorify their nigger violence, and make it racist criticize it. We have stupid white kids who grow up thinking acting like niggers is cool and amazing, because it is culturally shoved down our throats, and any parent that tries to teach their kids "don't act like a nigger" is treated like a racist monster.


There are over 120,000,000 legal gun owners nation wide. There are 12,000 gun deaths a year that are not from suicide (meaning, all murders, all lawful gun deaths including those done by cops, and all accidents). If ever single gun death was a murder, and every single murder was done by a separate gun owner, then that means, annually, one one hundredth of one percent of all gun owners were a danger to people and murderers.

That means, maximizing the number of potential killers, by making it a one:one killer to victim ration, 99.99% of gun owners are a threat to no one, and .01% are a threat.

Have fun living with your gypsies. I don't feel my nation is under any major gun violence problem.
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>>702778559
http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Potassium-Nitrate

actually works.
mix the potassium nitrate with charcoal powder and sulfur powder which you can get from some art supply or paint stores, get roughly a 5P:2C:1S ratio going on, make a homemade ball mill with some fishing sinkers and a plastic coffee can, roll that shit around for a day or so, you got gunpowder. hit up the hardware store, buy some steel pipe and a 2x4 for a stock, then you gotta decide, do you want a muzzle loading flintlock or a breach loader with cartridges, for a flintlock, you can use the shit from a bic lighter, for a breach loader, you'll probably wanna get some mercury fulminate to make some precussion caps or something. There ya go, cost you less than 100 bucks and you've got a homemade gun. The gunpowder you make is simple black powder, not smokeless, but effective nonetheless. Making the gun itself, might take ya an hour at most. Get some criminals involved and they're gonna mass produce those fuckers. Numbers numbers numbers... if a simple schmuck like me can do it that quick, i think a well practiced criminal could do it on a more massive scale if they really wanted to. again, guns aren't going anywhere.
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>>702762997
I like that image. Source of artist?
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>>702778768
im in aus
where do i get these guns?
jk i dont want a fucking grease gun
The only reason to have a gun where i live is to shoot at the birds fucking with the vineyards anyway so
Lol
Also the only thing thats really difficult to obtain is ammunition, having brass casings and all that junk.
I can and have made a single shot 12 guage when i was younger. was dangerous as fuck but it worked fine
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Serious question: Why is anyone surprised that America is a violent country? We have been violent since our inception and that hasn't stopped. I'm serious, why is everyone "discovering" this like it is something new?
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>>702762131
Britbong here, most guns are illegal, those that aren't are usually bolt action rifles, low calibre semi auto rifles, or shotguns. All of these must be used for either hunting or at shooting clubs, and mentally ill people cannot get guns at all.

This system is incredibly fucking tight, and yet still there are people in gangs that have Sawn off shotguns, semi auto Pistols, Uzis, and even AK-47s.

The black market will always find a way.
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>>702779233
>Also the only thing thats really difficult to obtain is ammunition, having brass casings and all that junk.
You can just buy ammunition legally anon, doesn't have to feed a legal firearm.
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>>702779311
Statistically it isn't particularly violent though, it just has a higher ratio of gun deaths vs death by other means and people jump all over this.
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>>702762131
If Stan someobe to death just to prove you wrong. Maybe I'll stab you to death. Maybe i'll cut off your genitals and shove them down your throat cut out your guts and strangle you with them. All without a gun. And you would be the reason for it. It would be your own fault Stab stab stastab stabby stab stabbidy stabbastabba doo
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>>702779311
every country is a violent country. every border of every country of this world has been met with some kind of conflict or war, and the mutually agreed upon imaginary lines on the map are the result. USA is no more violent or dangerous than any other country.
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>>702762440
Except it doesnt work in chicago. Nothinf works in chicago cause its where pathetic dreams go die from being mugged. Chicago is a useless shithole and should be burned to the ground. I'll never take one step into that God forsaken shit den of a dirty fuck hole covered in ass puke.
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>>702779602
thats retarded, my solution is to take the car away from that asshole and make it harder to get a driving license
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>>702762450
Worked for drugs? Wew stupidest thing I have came across this whole year .. Congrats you are a fucking idiot
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>>702779708
Which stops the next person doing it how?
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>>702779343
how so? as far as i knew you couldnt do it off the grid.
or more so, i was told it puts you in the books where they can eventually crosscheck with licenses and maybe pin you with that.
so you're saying i could just go to some online au ammunition store and buy some .308 or something
id love to make some hobbyist ghetto guns just to muck around on the weekend
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>>702779602
correct version :
Teenagers roar through town at 90MPH where the speed limit is 25, and your solution is to make sure they can't drive by removing their licence and car.
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>>702763384
Let them die or actively exterminate them?
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If we let men die for oil we will let the die for fire arms.
Truth is death is a neccesesity to make money and quite frankly to reduce the surplus population.
See you in 150 years fuckers
*jumps in time machine*
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>>702762131
> Be the current year
> Still blaming inanimate objects for the actions of people
> Still thinking throwing out Constitutional rights is a good idea with no repercussions
> Still thinking the state is an omnipotent benevolent entity that can do no wrong and should have unlimited power
> Still needing someone to dictate your life
> Still doesn't have a better argument than "muh children" or "muh safe space".
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>>702779756
And how many people drive around without a license, using clunkers theyve bought off of other people?

Lets suppose we ban ALL cars, what about motorcycles, and bicycles?
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Thread is still going?
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>>702762450
/thread
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>>702780021
less fat cunts and more tight knit communities probably
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>>702772370
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
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>>702779755
You need to be a licensed firearms owner but there is nothing stopping you buying ammunition for illegal guns once you are.
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>>702774993
Thanks for inventing the Brazilian wax by the way.
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>>702762131
>still being sold like candy

Why is it that anti-gun faggots are always so uninformed about legal gun purchasing?
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>>702765911
I agree but people disagree with us we must conqoue the world and kill everyone who doesn't want peace. Get along or nukes will rain from the heavens by the thousands and lay waste ro all mankind [email protected] BURN SUFFER DIE SCREAM IN PAIN AN SORROW I FEAST ON YOUR PAIN GIVE ME TOUR SOULS ALL WILL DIE ALL WILL DIE BEGONE DILTHLT MONKEY PEOPLE TO THE ShADOWS WHERE YOUR FEEBLE MINSA CAN EATDIRT FOR ALLVTIME YOU ALL MUST DIE HUMANS MUST DIE KILL THEM ALL KILL THEM ALL DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE
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>>702780224
So.. funny. .
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>>702780107
And people taking days to go small distances.
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>>702772507
>give one example where it didn't work
>HURRR DAS CHERRI PICKING MATE DUHHHRR
Banning guns will work as well as banning illegal drugs do, also
>I'm pro-guns
No you're not shut the fuck up
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>>702762131
That woman actually lived so fuck you.
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Basing your opinions on guns on mass shootings is fucking retarded.

The only reason people think they're so damn common is their retards and the bought and paid for media will bullshit about each event and the EEEEEEEVILLLLLL AR-15s (even if one wasn't even used) uninterrupted for several months and then intermittently for the next several years.

They're actually so uncommon they're basically freak events. Unfortunately they make great ammo for assholes who want to ban shit. If they ever do just watch, it's knives next.
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>>702780179
I own 2 guns and where I live anyone 18 or over can buy a rifle on the spot and walk out w/out a background check. True, candy doesn't have a age limit (unless it's pot candy which is also sold where I live), but aside from that...

pic related
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>>702780452
and I fucked that up didn't I...
>they're*
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>>702775394
Your niggers specialize in spear hunting meanwhile american niggers go easymode with funs
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>>702762131
If you want to kill people, you'll kill people. Take away guns I'll burn down the theater, poison the towns water, or blow up the bus.
> a law against guns will surely work, I always keep my mass murdering 100% legal
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>>702777897
>Comparing gypsies to jews and nigger
>Implying they are worse
Gypsies are glitter faries covered in rainbow farts compared to the inner city blackies of Massachusetts and chicago, an Philly, and new york, and la, andyou know what every goddamn city in the county is a shithole
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>>702777907
HOLY SHIT WE GOTTA BAN VEHICLES
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>>702769965
Not at all, in fact, the majority of worldwide gun manufacture is done in the US. We export guns to said Commiefornias at the highest rate. If all the US did was ban the mass production of guns, worldwide gun hands would plummet. Guns aren't like weed or meth, it's not cheap to make a quality firearm.

And to the point about alternative weapons, to problem with guns is accessibility. Humans aren't rational. Did you know that in the early industrial era in France they had these huge oven things that workers would just stick their heads into to kill themselves because of dismal work conditions? It's not as though they had the only work conditions that bad, but they offed themselves so frequently because they could do it with a split second decision by sticking their heads into the oven thing. Now extrapolate that onto some of the mass shootings we've seen lately and you've got a close fitting model.
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>>702780565
>I'll burn down the theater

pretty sure guns can kill more people faster, than attempting to burn down that concrete theatre
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>>702780482
Then you're either not in the US, not buying from an FFL, or your local gun shop's owner is going to get his dog shot by the ATF.
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>>702762131

Is it not usually the innocent persons kid who shoots themselves in the face?
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>>702780749
And workers in Thailand step outside their buildings to splat on the ground, this can be done in any city in the world.
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>>702762131
Considering Americas on the brink of civil war with North Korea do you think it's a good idea to take a away your country's cilizens only way to protect themselves?
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>>702780737
try driving on the white house lawn and see what stops you
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>>702762450
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>>702762131
Must ban water. People drown.
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>>702762710
No American niggers there either, right?
Your darkies just wanna huff petrol and soak up government bucks.
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>>702780825
I live in the US. You must live in a big city. Not every state shares the same laws. Look up federal gun laws some time. My state follows those, you can own machine guns and cannon where I live, you just have to register them with the ATF.
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>>702780823
Lots of burnable shit in a theater, actually a pretty shitty place to be when it's on fire.

If you really want casualties just go with a bomb. Highest kill and injury count was McVeigh and his fertilizer bomb last I checked.
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>>702762131
Fixed your shitty picture for you.
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>>702780889

...civil war with North Korea

Theres literally no difference between your asshole & your mouth
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>>702781010
Having to go through NICS background checks when buying from an FFL is federal law.
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>>702781010
No you can't. All civilian own able machine guns were produced before 1986. You don't just buy in and "register it"
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>>702779602
My solution is stab the little shit that was in his phone then as I'm cutting off his dick and shoving it up his ass, cutting him up and torturing him till I shits himself, I'll eat his ears off his face and tell him. "This is for being in the phone while driving and hitting my car. Next time put the phone down or someone like me might run you off the road break your arms and legs and rape you to death in a Ditch. Drive safe....OR I'LL EAT YOYR CHILDREN AND VOMIT their remains Into your eyes and mouth then make you eat it. You will burn and die AHAHAHAAH
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>>702762131
Paris didnt have guns and look how fine they turned out. 2 armed men massacred with the greatest of ease. Shit like that wouldnt happen on thr streets of america because we have military veterans who pack. We would engage.

Guns have backround checks with the fbi before any purchase. The majority of shootings and death involve gangs with stolen guns that the police never attempt to recover. They also happen in states with the most strictest of ownership laws .

Now tell me about the gun free country that sells a million bats a year and only 50 baseballs.
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>>702780889
>America's on the brink of civil war with North Korea
>civil war
"I say old chap, I do believe I am going to beat you today. C - 14."
"Well Mr. Round Eye... I must inform you that you did indeed sink my battleship. We shall continue this war with our next set of games, Monopoly. Please accept our hospitality while we set up the game."
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>>702762440
The funny part is no one sees your sarcasm.
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>>702779756
Then they steal a car from the nice old lady next door
Your a faggot
Kys
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>>702781359
Wonder what the world would be like if our leaders just sat down and played board games instead of traditional warfare.
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>>702764502
>(sand)nigger detected
how is nazis having guns a bad thing? Mudslimes have atleast someone willing to do anything about them
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>>702763636
Gun free country
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>>702781476
Considering they're usually inbred retards with a felony or two...
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>>702765795

>not a nigger: the post
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>>702781235
You can own a machine gun that was registered before the May 1986 deadline, dumbass. You can't own any new production ones.
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>>702781454
The same. Egos are just as bad.
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>>702763741
1 shot 1 kill is a marine corps motto. Maybe we should disarm the military before we think about civilian ownership because the government of every country who wants our guns are the ones who start wars.
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>>702781545
but that's stuff like drugs(what-fucking-ever) or DUI or smth and ofc the beating up niggers / racist things
But ye a smart man would just kill a nigger not parade about it
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>>702766553
Ive only seen those machines in nigger neighborhoods in gun ban states
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>>702765150
>See what you get

But i wouldn't chimpout like a dindu and reach for a gun while being stopped by a cop, thats asking for trouble dipshit.
I'd talk to him using my grown up words instead and then get on with my life.
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>>702781740
A piece of shit with a peanut in it is still a piece of shit.
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>>702762131
Your an idjit
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>>702781780
Good luck with your grown up words when the cop only speaks 1st grader
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>>702781235
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_West_Virginia

"There are no firearms known to be prohibited by State law."
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>>702781937
NFA and Hughes amendment are federal law too.
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>>702782071
>Hughes amendment
Are you referring to a law that EXPIRED in 2004?

Maybe when you get back in your time machine you can mark that down on your calendar

Fully automatic weapons are legal in most states
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What is this shit???
In germany noone can buy guns and its safe. Fuck ofd you are still safe without a gun who the fuck woll break into ur house just to kill you thats stupid. Also there are like 9 year olds killing people accidently and 6 year olds learnn hoe to. Kill...
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>>702782234
That was the assault weapons ban you dipshit, not the Hughes amendment.
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>>702781676
You mean like US?
Ever since Vietnam we've been vying to flex our shit.
>Cambodia
>Nicaragua
>Grenada
>Iraq
>Afghanistan
>Iraq again because why not
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>>702772370

Sorry about your dyslexia. The big words say that they gun buyback was largely ineffective and left a number of banned guns in now illegal circulation, and that violent crime, burglaries and assaults went up after the ban. Also while gun related suicides dipped, actual suicide rates went up.
Now drink your milk and go to bed.
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>>702782234
Also, yes, they're legal, but because of the Hughes amendment it is illegal to manufacture new machine guns for the civilian market and has been since 86.

The only legal machine guns are those made prior to the passing of the FOPA to which the Hughes amendment was tacked on in the most bullshit of ways.
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>>702781454
I wonder about this all the time. If somehow every leader agreed to send out that country's best chess/go player to resolve conflict.
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>>702782340

so, you're just being an asshole to be an asshole, right?

you can buy and sell machine guns in most states

who gives a shit if it's a few years old. So you can't mow down your neighbors with a brand new model, oh boo hoo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American-180

go fuck yourself
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>>702782612
Looked like you were saying you can own anything regardless of date of manufacture. Nobody's arguing whether you can own a machine gun you moron, simply that they must be manufactured pre-1986.
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>>702762131
Over 77 people died in Nice France during a Terrorist attack with only a truck.
49 People died in Orlando Night Club Shooting.

Good thing they banned guns in France.
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>>702780893

20mm autocannons probably
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>>702781872

Better than the black folk who can't speak at all.
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>>702762450
>all of the idiots unable to detect the obvious sarcasm
just kill yourselves now
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>>702772001
I actuary agree with this. No guns might work for some countries, but there are so many guns in the US that it's simply not realistic there
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>>702762131
What if that guy uses a knife?
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>>702782284
Id break into your house just to kill you simply to prove you wrong. Its not the guns its people like me who fuck you up for being a fucktard
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>>702772018
You dumb fucker they already have a way around it. What kinda of foods don't need forks? Chicken wings, Cheeseburgers, burritos/wraps, tacos, Chicken tendies, ice cream, candy bar's, French fries, onion rings, pizza, Cheese sticks...

You fool! You'd only cause more problems!
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>>702784013
I say we should ban all guns totally. Then when it doesn't work and people are still killed on a daily basis we can laugh at the anti gun people, call them retards and proceed to flood the US with all manner of assult weapons. Then if that doesnt work we can all admit that human beings are sub shit scum with no reason to live and no purpose in the world. Then we kill all humans including ourselves and the world will finally be at peace. Finally all humans dead aaaaaaahhhghhgh
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>>702762131
I'm not even american and even i can see how the gun ban in your country would be a huge mistake. Those niggers and spics gangaping your grandmother, slinging crack/cocaine, killing innocent people because they're not from the same street corner. And anyone else who is a threat to society, do not buy their guns legally. All a gun ban does is ensure that the cops and robbers are the only ones who have a hand in the game. Also, more importantly what happens if your government tried to enslave you or pass laws the majority don't want? how will you prevent that? So what if one fucking loony bastard killed a handful of people with an assault rifle. You can easily kill someone with a car, should we ban all cars because of what happened in France recently? Get yourself some logic m8.
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