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Give me one valid reason for eating meat, just one.
>inb4 "hurr durr cuz meat tastes gud"
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>>702731026
I've stopped eating meat to try and lose weight. It's been working well since I've been having far more vegetables, and having to actively avoid meat makes you think more about what you're eating. But I do miss my mince pies and pepperoni pizza
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>>702731026
Because I can, and all the vegetarian tears in the world can't stop me.
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Because eating animals is the only way humanity could have left Africa and not die on the first winter. Food chain, bitch, cows and sheep eat grass that humans can't. We eat them. Although I do agree we eat too much meat and factory farming is horrible, the conditions are bad, and the stuff used to make the feed is edible by humans, so defeats the purpose.
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>>702731026
pic is false
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>>702731026
I dont feel like eating a mountain of broccoli to get the same amount of protein from one steak.
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>>702731026
Haha. Yeah, use steak and broccoli as the two examples. Good luck changing minds.
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"Hurr durr cuz meat tastes good" is a valid reason. People will keep eating meat and there is nothing you can do about it.

But you dont really care do you? You just wanna shitpost and have a thread full of bait and arguing dontcha?
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I dont want to have to eat 300 grams of broccoli just for 11 grams of protein. Also I'm not a fucking hippie
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>>702731026
you mean 2.8 grams per 100 cal according to google
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>>702731026
Good for your mental health. It's important to have self control and not just eat shit that taste good but it's okay to have a greasy cheeseburger with frenchfries and ketchup every once in a while to let your body enjoy something for once
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I don't want to hurt the feeling of fruit/vegetables.
And meat does taste pretty gud
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>>702731026
Do you even know how much broccoli you would have to eat to get 100 Cal?
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There's only 2.8 grams of protein in broccoli per 100 grams.

So yeah. Meat ftw.
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The thrill of a good hunt on the tundra wastelands
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>>702731346
What's been working for me is callorie counting, so you don't have to give up meat, but expect to eat less
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Because it triggers people like you.
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>>702731770
How is it valid? Am I allowed to eat people because they taste good?
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>>702732091
It's actually 4.1 gram of protein
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>>702731026
Even if pic were correct, which it is not Broccoli is not a complete protein where meat is.
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>>702731026
we have eyes on the front of our head, like predators, unlike prey which has eyes on the sides.

we have talon shaped hands, for killing rather than simple hooved feet for running away.

we have canine teeth for eating meat.

stay weak minded, stay weak bodied, ill take what spoils in life you couldnt find the strength to lift.
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>>702731926
You can do that as a vegan. The only difference is that you aren't needlessly harming animals.
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>>702731026
because no one wants to eat this much fucking broccoli in one sitting
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>>702732909
OP.
Here is your one good reason.
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Because B12.

Vegan's need supplements for B12.

If a human diet needs supplements, then by definition it is insufficient for humans.
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>>702732737
Lol of course dumbo- though im pretty sure youd go to jail as a result.
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>>702733127
I have. It makes you fart alot and the farts are like....dense.
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See this shit all the time. I know its bait but I already know the answer so i'll indulge you.

100 calories of broccoli is 300 grams.
100 calories of steak is 35 grams.

Therefore you are retarded
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>>702733132
Not OP, but no it's not a valid reason. Ever heard of combining foods?
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>>702732947
>canines
Like hippos, right? They eat meat, right?
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>>702733016
>thinking that the vegan movement will ever be enough to stop modern meat industry practice
>actively promoting a weak diet for the people on your side

you are defeating yourself for no rational reason.
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>>702733016
>The only difference is that you aren't needlessly harming animals.
What makes you think i care about them?
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>>702731026
Shut up zipperhead
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>>702733400

>per 100 calories

lol that shit is so misleading
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>>702731026
Okay, I'm mostly on board with no animal. But here's the deal. Quit using this shit. It's not true. Start using real science and the China Study and shit. Use the results that started piling up.
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>>702733016
Harm implies injury, suffering

Death is instant. there is no suffering in death.

Vegans need to fuck off with the 'harm' shit, unless they want to specifically address the only people in the world that INSIST on harming animals: Muslims and their Halal requirements.

But you left wing cucks aren't allowed to criticism Islam, are you?
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>>702733349
Dense as in OP's intelligence.
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>>702733292
What the fuck are you talking about? Where do you think cows get b12 from?
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I eat animals because they are useless beyond what they can do for humans if they dont want to be eaten than they can start doing math and having conversations with us
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>>702733471
We're apes. apes eat meat.

We're not gorillas.
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>>702731026
Yeah but how much of brocoshit you need to eat to actually have 100 calories, you morron
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>>702733471
thats a pissweak argument, and dont worry about adressing the rest of my statement, just pick the one part you think you can handle, im not listening to you now anyway kek
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>>702731026
Animals don't deserve to live unless they are predetermined to be served as sustenance once they reach an age suitable for slaughter
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>>702731408
Boom. This.
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>>702733715

how is this not suffering?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KArL5YjaL5U
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Roast beef 8.99 a kg Green lettuce 3.99 a head. Cucumber 2.99 ea orange peppers 8.99 a pound. Hmm
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>>702733870
>>702733400
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>>702733292
The supplements barely work at all too.
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>>702733715
You know a shit ton of animals die when they harvest shitty vegtabmles right?
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>>702733611
Jew detected.
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>>702733800
they get it from the bacteria on grass.

because they're ruminants.


you're not a ruminant.

l2biology.
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>>702731026
I need 200 g of protein a day to be my badass self. Care to show me how much 1800 calories worth of broccoli looks like?
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>>702731026
your chart has the values of protein reversed. its roughly 3 grams of protein to for every 35cals.
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>>702731026
its actually 8.4g per 100 calories.
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>>702731026
you do realise, to get the same amount of protein as a 8 oz steak, you would need to eat something like 4 CUPS of broccoli.
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>>702731026
All protein is not the same faggot. Also, you still kill plants. Death it death. As long as it has next to no sentience vs humans, and they are killed humanely, and the live good lives, I will never gaf.
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Animal prote in causes kidney inflammation but at the same time I'd too delicious so fuck you.
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>>702734050
Jews dont eat pork, i love pork. Fuck vegans, i dont give two shits about cows, pigs, or chickens. Im not concerned one iota for them unless their taste gets affected.
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To eat a 100 calories of broccoli is a shit ton of broccoli, to eat 100 calories of meat isa couple mouthfuls. Meat is denser and contains more nutrients in less volume, vegetarians are also the cancer of this earth
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>>702731026
Because I believe every cow deserves the chance to become a valuable member of society.

Why are you racist against cows?
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>>702733800
They make it like most animals other than humans.
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>>702733715
You're kidding, right?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.rollingstone.com/feature/belly-beast-meat-factory-farms-animal-activists&ved=0ahUKEwjvva3o2_nOAhUFHh4KHXuAA_4QFggkMAI&usg=AFQjCNESke-aPuRkVn8ttFrydwM5B9kJrw

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/factory-farming/&ved=0ahUKEwjvva3o2_nOAhUFHh4KHXuAA_4QFggbMAA&usg=AFQjCNHiWBByN8dyUp7XzpZqERBvHwg_Zw

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/factory-farming/cows/beef-industry/&ved=0ahUKEwjvva3o2_nOAhUFHh4KHXuAA_4QFgghMAE&usg=AFQjCNFJZshwxUAiXwlkt1ZMERCBCLCrvQ

Do some fucking research faggot.
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>>702733966
Obviously that is shit.

you dont have to support shit industries AND give up eating meat.

infact, if you weren't such a bunch of Marxist left wing crybabies, you'd understand that capitalism is an awesome tool for ending intense farming: Dont buy that shit, only buy local free range stuff (that isnt bled to death for Halal)
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>>702733800
That's a shit example, since different animals process things differently. One thing can synthesize something a chemical that something else can't. Just look at Venom.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wQynViAF6Ds the good reverand had already looked into it
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>>702733966
>implying that what 100% have to be

Are you retarded?
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>>702734059
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://eerainuh.com/supplementation-of-vitamin-b12-in-cattle-and-sheep-to-prevent-deficiency/&ved=0ahUKEwjF3-Kv3PnOAhXCth4KHcQ-CygQFggbMAA&usg=AFQjCNEyWdE0BylZE5BbYf7QkWxe9v_QxA
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>>702734231
Jews are allowed to eat pork. they choose not to.

their laws about foods clearly say if your starving in the desert and a pig walks by, they can eat it.

A Muslim in the same situation would not be allowed into their heaven if they eat the pig to save their life.
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All essential amino acids in one thing,
/thread
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>>702731026
Because fuck you, thats why
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>>702731346
Giving up shit food ≠ Giving up meat.
>What is lean meat
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>>702731026
The thrill of the hunt, the satisfaction of the kill, and the feel of warm life blood on my hands. The connection to my hunter/gatherer roots to the wild world around me , to be part of nature in it's most natural state of kill or be killed..the feeling of a predator not a liberal vegan pussy.
And the taste of freshly grilled meat don't need any more reasons.
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>>702731026
brb eating literal pounds of broccoli every day

RIP sweet colon
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>>702731026
Really?

https://eathropology.com/2013/04/08/broccoli-has-more-protein-than-steak-and-other-crap/
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>>702734342
Peta LOL
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>>702734501
>>implying that what 100% have to be

the fuck are you trying to say? I dont give a shit how many cocks you suck a night or if you eat meat. How is that not suffering?
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>>702734342
>implying that farms dont shoot animals in the head, killing them instantly.

you cherry picked shitty factory farms, and are trying to lie to people to insist thats how all farms work.

when you lie, it makes people less likely to trust you.

why dont people trust vegans again?
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>>702734548
You're missing the point, i'll eat animals happily and there's nothing you can do about it, except season my steak with your salty tears.
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as an avid lifter, do you realize how much broccoli you'd have to eat to put on weight, i eat 4000 calories a day if i had to do that just eating fruit and veggies it would be a fucking nightmare
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Because im trying to bulk nigga
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>>702731026
Primitive instinct, you don't have to eat meat if you don't wanna.
Also,
>7g of protein per ounce of beef
>0.8g of protein per ounce of broccoli
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>>702731026
>Implying I would eat 100 calories worth of broccoli.

That's like, a whole fucking plate bro, vs a fork of meat.
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>>702733966
I'm not watching an entire documentary about autistic animals being sent to slaughter I know it's painful I know it's unthinkable I know it's the worst thing ever but I can sleep easy because animals are brainless skin sacks stuffed with delicious meat no morals or ethics will ever get in the way of my medium rare cow carcass
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Op just a fyi to farm mass veggies like we would have too for everyone to be vegan or vegetarian we'd have to control the pests. Birds, bunnies, lynx, beaver etc etc etc. Would you rather me just kill these animals and leave them or eat them? Because lemme tell you wasting them is just plain old fucked up.
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>>702731026
https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome-psyapi2&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8&q=complete%20protein&oq=compleat%20proteirn&rlz=1C1MSIM_enUS685US685&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.6040j0j9


You're fucking welcome.
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>>702731026
lmao send ur veganism somewhere else imma keep eating bacon
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>>702731594
pic is true, just not a good source
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>>702734876
omg havent you seen how Vegan Gains mad physique?

hes amazing!..
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>>702731026
why are vegans so obsessed with protein? literally not a single person gives a shit about that but then a vegan comes along and starts talking about how much protein he's getting. fuck off vegans.
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>I want to deny the fact that I miss eating an important part of a diet
I don't eat any fruit and the only veg I consume is potato and potato vodka
Fuck that gross green shit and the bee attractions
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>>702734916
>skin sacks stuffed with delicious meat

Next time your fat ass sits down for a meal, dont cook your meat and eat it raw and report back to me.
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>>702733471
We can easily digest many meats, fruits, and vegetables. That is why we are omnivores.
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>>702735075
no shit.

I'm more concerned about essential amino acids, and vitamin deficiencies.

>All vegans look sick, because they are.
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>>702731026
There's an ingredient found in meat that can only be produced from the dead cells of an animal. It helps stimulate areas of the brain. Plus, animal proteins helps giving you more muscle.
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because thats what nature intended you fucking retard, we are omnivores

now go be a faggot somewhere else
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>>702731026
Because nobody fucking cares if you're vegan
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>>702734916
Use to work slaughter i missed watching them come in to the pin than start trying to back out like "wrong room"
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>>702734342
90% of butchers just electrocute animals instantly or shoot to kill, do your research and if you dont like their ways, buy another brand
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>>702733743
>shots
>fired
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Who gives a fuck? You eat what you want i eat what i want. No one should give even the amount of fucks to care. Less you just want to circle jerk and call someone out for eaing "blank" fuck vegans fuck meat eaters were all faggots regardless of choice and preference.
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>>702731026

I'm fucked up mentally and don't always have energy/attention span to eat at all, let alone cook, let alone go through all the work that means making vegetables into a complete and vitamin-rich meal. Meat cooks fast and easy and i don't have to think about pairing amino acids etc. I don't really eat meat very much, because it's expensive, but when all I can do is stagger to the stove and turn on a burner once a day, meat is a godsend
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It's more efficient calorie wise. Do you know how much broccoli you'd need to eat to match the caloric load of a piece of meat? You'd be at it all day.
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>>702734747
I'm not cherry picking, but whatever. They're still being killed unnecessarily.
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>>702731408
/thread
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>>702734967
kek
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>>702735116
Yum! salami for dinner tonight!
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>>702735116
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>>702733471
>>702733834
>>702733871

Exactly right
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>>702731594
No pic is false
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>>702734669
/thread
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>>702731026

Because domesticated animals flourish as a species as a result of being used by human beings. They are provided shelter, food, water, protection from predators, disease and the elements in exchange for being consumed by us rather than by other predators in the wild and as a result of human protection the numbers of domesticated animals have flourished.

Now then, lets say for the sake of argument that you don't think that domestication is a fair exchange.

What do you do with the domesticated animals once we aren't eating meat anymore?

Do you release them into the wild?

Clearly not since that would be an ecological disaster, for the environment and for wild species who are already plagued by feral domesticated animals.

So I guess you'll have to kill them?

Exterminate their species for the greater good of the environment.

So since the vegetarian alternative to domestication is extinction or ecological disaster, I'd say I can enjoy my steak guilt free, secure in the knowledge that I'm the top of the fucking food chain.
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>>702735116
I've actually had a lot of raw beef in my life. Fish as well. More fish then beef actually. Also oysters.
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>>702733870
winrar, OP is a confirmed faggot
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>>702735116

sushi fam
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>>702734342
>implying peta is a reliable source

you might as well cite pat robertson for your "research" on gay people
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I eat protein shakes and energy bars. How much protein is in that? I take iron pills due to donating blood too.

I am a lazy vegetarian that doesn't like a lot of the vegetables. I won't buy meat at the grocery store, but if there is a free ham pizza at work, I'm not going to deny myself.
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>>702731026
Canine teeth
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>>702735201
Then why do you cook your meat? You don't have to cook an apple or a cucumber to digest it. Why don't you eat raw meat?
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Cause I'm not gonna let that deer go to waste after I end its life. Duh OP. Top of the food chain ftw
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>>702731026
Because I want to eat meat.
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>>702734710
Some places treat the animals like shit and slaughter them in a shitty way (like the dirty jews). Other's don't. I have no issue eating meat from places that aren't known dicks.
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>>702735514
Oysters are awesome
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WE GOTTA BE TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN BOIZ
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>>702731408
Kinda got hard to this comment.
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>>702731026
HOW COULD YOU?!?!?
YOU ARE MURDERING INNOCENT PLANTS!!!!!!!!!
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>>702734830
I eat ~1400 Cal/day and I;m ~ 25 LBS overweight (190@ 5'11). I obviously don't lift.
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>>702735726

Steak tartar, sushi, escabeche, carpaccio.....
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>>702731026
Dude, you can't inb4 in the first post. Bad form.
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>>702734615
>>702735235
>>702731408
>>702732316
>>702732639
this fucking thread i swear tah gawd
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>>702735308
>It's all preference, you eat beef and chicken, I eat little kids. There's nothing wrong with that, just let me do what I want and leave me alone
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broccoli 34 calories / 100 grams
294 grams / 11.1 grams of protein
0.64 pounds / 11.1 grams of protein

beef 250 calories / 100 grams
40 grams / 6.4 grams of protein
.08 pounds / 6.4 grams of protein

You would have to eat over 7 times more broccoli than meat for OP's infopic to be true.
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>>702735945
good luck with that dude.

>Why do humans need to carry guns in the arctic... aren't Bears and Wolves below us in the food chain?
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>>702736033

Can it Zhaan.
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Vegan and Vegetarian farming take more land from, and kill more animals than red meat farming does. It's a backwards practice that moves wildlife off of protected farm land and annihilates them if they pose a threat, a good story and example would be Peter Rabbit and Mr.McGregor. The land that is required to farm and sustain human sustenance is far greater than most mammals due to the fact that we are bigger, and if not bigger, pickier. Humans don't eat grass, hay and random other shit like a deer or even a raccoon. So when you are a vegan you are actually supporting the movement of animals from their natural habitats and having them killed so that you can eat salads. The facts are there.
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>>702731026
Because that bullshit infographic is wrong and you'd need around a pound of broccoli to get that kind of protein.
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>>702736083
Wait who doesn't eat human kids
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>>702736085
someone actually did the math? lmao
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>>702733966
Holy shit I dint know a boar ejaculated for 10 minutes.
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>>702731026
it's more efficient
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>>702736093
>without guns we are not on top of the food chain
Must be pretty shitty when you have an extra chromasone but dont have any extra abilities
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>>702731026
clever how it's measured by 100 calories. so 11.1 grams of protein for what 18.5 pounds of vegetable matter?
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>>702731026
Someone is pulling stats out of their ass, steak has 11ish grams of protein per 100 calories while broc only has 8ish
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>>702731026
Fucking hippies
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Going to start posting a delicious local chain
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Being a vegan is a first world priviliege.
When you gotta eat, you eat, or do think humans survived for hundreds of years being picky on their food?
Also..
If we fed all of the human population on grass
There would be a lot of vegetables and land missing from the animals.
Since where not being "cruel" anymore we would have to expand farms to a much bigger scale just to feed a single country.
With the "cruelty" we regulate animals that are bad for the enviorement, such as cows wich are huge producers of CO2.
Meat stimulates the brain better than vegetables and allow to gain better muscles
Plus, fuck plants, they sit there all day thinking they are better than me cause they stealmy CO2 and produce oxygen, producing their own food, that's literally the only reason for being vegan
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>>702736093

Why do you think we're top of the food chain?

Because our ancestors were out there beating other animals to death with their fists?

If the other critters don't like it then they can evolve larger brains and opposable thumbs and build their own guns.
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>>702735726
Because we have evolved a need to thanks to fire (which is also a huge reason why we have a highly developed brain) We can just beat the crap out of it to much the same effect as far as ease of digestion goes. Also many simple meats like fish are easy to digest. Though at the end of the day meats and vegetables should be cooked for humans.
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>>702736611
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>>702731346
Eat bird and fish nigga, incredibly lean.
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>>702736685
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Pretty much all my protein comes from whey, casein, chicken breast, nuts/seeds and more chicken breasts.
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>>702736729
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>>702736380
Do you know where you are?
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>>702736611

I love a fried egg on a burger.
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>>702736085
>meat lover cant into math
that figures
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>>702736751
GAINZ
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>>702736672
>They can evolve larger brains and opposable thumbs and build their own guns.
Yeah, in about 8 thousand years kiddo.
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Do you realize how much fucking broccoli it takes to get 100 calories? It's simply not as sustainable as meat in regard to protein. You would have an enormous amount of population decrease, plus an agrarian society would cause technological reversion. More and more people would have to focus on farming in order to support their population. So welcome to the second dark age, brother.
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>>702731026
Because we aren't pussy ass faggots.
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>>702736093
We are the top for two reasons:
Tools (creation and use).
We are the best long distance land runners.
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I don't have room in my belly for veggies. I have to eat caorie dense food or I waste away.
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>>702731026
Also to make veggie virgins like u mad
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>>702736826
This is much better than that shit applebees tries to call food
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>>702733400
And the broccoli does not have all the essential aminos
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>>702731026
Hue hue cuz veggies taste bad
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>>702735466
It's misleading if anything. You have to eat way more broccoli than meat to get equivalent calories and protein.
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>>702735019
Vegan gains is a faggot who took FilthyFrank seriuosly and favouries vegan bodybuilders on steroids over a "Cruel" meat eater that's natural
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>>702731772
If I eat 300g broccoli I'd fart so much my butt would be classified as chemical weapon
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>>702736947
>Can't see at night.

this is why wolves eat you.

wolves #1.
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>>702737027
Fucking this.
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>>702733986
the way you used four totally different units of measurement for these foods really fucking bothers my OCD.
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hurr durr cuz meat tastes gud?
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>>702736813
>>702736729
>>702736685
>>702736611
literally none of these look appetizing at all
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>>702737068
Check out this nigger everyone, he cant into sarcasm.
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>>702731026
Because OP is a nigger vegan.
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>>702731026
>not eating a balanced healthy diet of meats, grains and veggies
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>>702731026
do you realise how much fucking broccoli you ahve to eat for 100 calories
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>>702731026
because not all proteins are the same, and mass has little to do with that.
Animal proteins are necessary for healthy life. Vegetarians can get those in eggs and dairy, but they are finding that vegans are actually malnourished to the point where it is severely detrimental to their health.
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>>702731026
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Durr hurr cuz veggies taste bad
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>>702737200
American food bro.

They put sugar in their bread lol.
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>>702737110
I can see well enough most of the time. Plus we mastered fire. And we aren't deaf. We have decent reaction ability too, he have a concept of blocking and multiple vital areas. That and we build shelters. Many reasons why we win.
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>>702736869

>evolving brains capable of higher reasoning and hands with opposable thumbs in a mere 8 thousand years.

Hahaha, oh you thought you were being clever, let me laugh even harder.
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>>702733334
In most countries cannibalism is legal. Getting the human meat is usually the part thats illegal
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>>702731026
Because I'm not a big ass faggot who prefers one type of food. If its edible, I eat it. If it's healthy, I eat it, if it's delicious, I eat it. Go back to the jungles and continue to forage, sand nigger. Return once you've learned to properly hunt AND forage
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>>702737110
you must not leave the house often
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>>702736861

This anon gets it
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>>702731026
because the only way for me to supress my craving for human flesh is to eat other animals..
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>>702737319
It's pretty sweet. And the yeast fucking loves it.
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>>702737166
He did too kek
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>>702731026
Vegetables doesn't really have essential amino acids you need WITH the protein. Can you show me a vegetable with high amounts of creatine and l-carnitine?
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>>702737425
Edgy.
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>>702737395
Not without a rifle, because in my country it is the law.

You go outside without a rifle, you're eaten.
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>>702731026
Why is it tasting better not an option?
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B12 dat is all
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>>702737216
>he cant into
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>>702731026
Made me think of Travta in Pulp Fiction. Because when I was a veg I put on Mad weight from the stupid veg food. Chik patties and shite. Became way less healthy than when I just accepted that we, are omnivores.
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>>702731026
Because I may be a faggot, but I ain't no queer.
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>>702736093
Your austism knows no bounds does it?
Humans are the top species for our abilities to adapt quickly and intelligence to think.
Using our intellect ove the years, we devolped hunting tools such the bow and arrow to hunt deers, wich later became a rifle, and so on.
The reason why animals are over others are their abilities to take downother animals, pursuit them and how easily they can kill them, and using our handmade tools we won over them
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>>702731026
Because humans are naturally omnivorous, explain my k9s m8. Theres Lutein in eggs which is a super antioxidant. Idk why limit your food groups and make life harder on yourself.
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>>702737541
Because opinions don't count. You gotta have a reason, not belief.
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>per 100 calories
Good luck with eating enough brocolli.
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>>702737535
yes. my edges can actually cut diamonds.

if i had to be serious though, i wish i didn't want to eat meat. But i don't think i could simply live eating only vegetables and fruits.
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>>702731026
because science!!!!!
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>>702737539
By wolves?
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>>702731026

Your faggy buttflustered SJW sensibilities cannot change the fact that yes, meat does indeed taste good.
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>>702737067
Na. False completely. 100 cals of sirloin steak has around 12g protein. 100 cals broccoli, around 8.
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>>702737559
Can be synthesised from bacteria.
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>>702737541
The largest component of veganism is Ego.

you cant assert your ethical superiority over other people, if you aren't making sacrifices and leading the most unenjoyable lifestyle possible.

>Pff you like things because they're more enjoyable? what a lazy undisciplined faggit.
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>>702731026
Because it's in the natural human diet. Humans aren't designed to survive solely on plants, dairy, etc. honestly, if you're doing this because "hurr durr anml abuse" then think this through; 1) animals we eat are mostly born and raised for the sole purpose of being eaten. If we wanted to replace meat with veggies, the amount of space that would take up and the nutrients it would take from the land would be devastating to the environment; acres and acres of animal habitat destroyed for human food. It would be more expensive to eat in general. There would be people with horrible diets because they wouldn't want the one they are offered. And most importantly, people just wouldn't want it.
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>>702737319
>>702737200
Sugar isn't what makes these burgers great
It's litterally the grease running off of them that makes my mouth drool like fucking niagara falls
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>>702737954
Right, but then we're eating fucking sewage burgers and shit(that was a real invention)
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>>702733471
The males use their teeth to fight, just search "male hippos fighting"
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>>702731026
I eat meat to build muscle because of the creatine content in meat. There are no sources of creatine in veggies, so fuck off.
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>>702737875
Polar bears. Most of the lands around here have the same law.

I like that some anon mentioned Humans as the worlds greatest long distance runners. Polar bears move 50kmh.
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>>702731026
I like the taste. There is no more valid reason than that. Steak tastes ten times better, to me, than your green flower.
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>>702737812
The only reason im vegetarian is because meat tastes nasty to me. Why do you eat meat if you don't desire it? There are dozens of tasty ways to prepare every dish known to man. That means there are hundreds, maybe even thousands of ways to make pure non-meat diet. I hear there were even some ways to mimic meat flavors.
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>>702731026
>100 calories

That picture is bullshit. Here's what 100 calories of broccoli vs 100 calories of steak actually looks like.
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>>702738371
do they run 100km in 2 days though?
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>>702734993
google:
"grams protein per 100 CALORIES OF MEAT"
verbatim, and you will learn better.
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>>702731026
Because I can
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>>702731026

Being vegan or vegetarian is not cost efficient, and I want to eat twoish meals a day and not be starving.
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>>702738520
This is valid. I can accept, I'm a beg because meat tastes gross. At least it's not shady in nature. Saying it's better for you was untrue for me. Being a veg.
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>>702737919
Even still, you would have to eat immense amounts of broccoli to claasify as 100 calories.
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https://authoritynutrition.com/animal-vs-plant-protein/
cuz hunting for the right proteins and amino acids in different plants is more boring and retarded than hunting for meat.
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>>702731026
Claiming to be vegan is just a justification of violence against plants!

Plants also feel pain and have souls, then you just cut them up and eat raw or just eat them alive. How can you be so cruel to a living thing that can't even put up a fight.

This is why I eat meat. The animals atleast had a theoritical chance of fighting back before they were killed. Pigs and cows should just learn to use guns if they want to survive and the same would be asking too much from a plant that can't even walk or run. Shame on you for kicking the weakest of creations. Leave the plants alone!!!!
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>>702737341
I now know who to donate my body to when I die
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>>702731026
>x protein per 100 calories
>not x protein per 100 grams

vegans pls, you don't learn nutrition just by smoking weed.
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>>702737263
Because we evolved specifically to eat meat, as >>702737263 tried to point out.
We're called hunting apes for a reason.
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>>702735116
A shit ton of korean-style food uses raw meat, what are you on about?
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>>702731026
tradition.
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>>702738873
So, if broccoli could scream, would there be less veggies? Hmmm.
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>>702738786
You spelt vag wrong
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>>702735332
Considering that animals in the wilderness either die horribly via cancer, horribly via injury and infection, or horribly by being torn apart by predators and left to slowly bleed to death, being held in a slaughterhouse is pretty merciful.

Its like when people talk shit about hunting, I just don't get it.
>OHHH YOU'RE KILLING ANIMALS!!!!!!!

So fucking what? They die in fucking horrible ways in nature, what's it matter if we speed up the process?
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>>702738786
Hey shit head you spelled fag wrong
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>>702739111
My life is over.
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>>702738618
oh dear. you're special aren't you.

The "Humans are long distance runners' argument is for CHASING DOWN prey, not running from it.

If you can see a polar bear, and you can run maybe 10 kmh in your snow gear, that means that the bear will have caught you in under a minute running 50kmh.

We carry rifles becuase we are not the dominant species. we a re not the top of the food chain.

Moving to an island that has no natural predators does not make you top of the food chain, it makes you a pussy bitch.
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It's tasty.
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>>702732737
No that's illegal you dipshit.
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>>702739224
You dont run from prey
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>>702739073
No, don't be silly! that would just be creepy! lol (;
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>>702739174
Fuck. Being that vegs are fags.
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>>702739374
The "Humans are long distance runners' argument is for CHASING DOWN prey, not running from predators.

Is that better? sorry English is only my fourth language.
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>>702732737
human tastes horrible though. it's why sharks don't eat you when they bite you, they think you're tastey seal, they taste our shit tasting meat and spit it out.
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>>702733471
Those are for self defense
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>>702735508
Yup absolutely correct. Part of domesticating and eating animals is population control. Just look at feral hogs in Texas. They have gotten out of control and will eat entire crops in a day if not put in check. So in order to save animals you end up having to kill them for no good reason. In addition. the fact this is posted on an internet message board means you have internet and the choice to eat meat or not. The poor eat whatever they can. Veganism is a disease of the wealthy.
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>>702738873
Every living thing has a way of surviving. Plants have poisons, thorns, spikes, ect.
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>>702739374
Running of the Bulls, your argument is invalid.
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>>702731346

inb4 you put on weight... I've had a few people try that shit around me.. they all ended up putting on weight and feeling miserable for not eating what they actually wanted (a normal meal with both meat and veg)
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>>702739536
sorry to nitpick i can see your having a rough night running away from hunted polar bears and shit
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>>702733471
hippos are known to eat meat you fucking idiot.
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>>702731026


DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH FUCKING BROCCOLI YOU HAVE TO EAT FOR 100 CALORIES?
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AW SHIT NIGGA, BEST FOOD COMING THROUGH

END THE FUCKING THREAD HERE AIN'T NO COMING BACK AFTER THE KING OF KINGS
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>>702737245

this.
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>>702739753
>implying spainards matter
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>>702731026
1g or protein = 4 calories
11.1 X 4 = 44.4

So you're saying broccoli is Made up of 44.4% protein?
Lol gtfo vegan fag
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>>702739791
im 6ft, 124kgs. I've never been diagnosed with a deficiency (I have to have med clearance once a year for work)

The 'weak vegan'/'pale vegan' thing doesn't really work unless you cherry pick examples.
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>>702739224
ware the top of the food chain. fucking morons that think tools mean we arent. we crafted Spears and bows that make us the top, even way before machinery. apes are known to use tools for gathering food such as insects, we just took it to the next level, which makes us top of the food chain.
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>>702739536
>>702739816
You're both idiots.
Humans didn't run after prey over long distances, they walked, without sleep, tracking it, until it was fucking exhausted and either died, or couldn't run as we killed it.
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>>702731026
>Choosing brocoli over steak
Why not just an hero?
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it tastes good
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>>702739882
That's a shit ton of protein.

https://www.fatsecret.com/calories-nutrition/generic/salmon-raw?portionid=50737&portionamount=100.000
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>>702731026
Per 100 cals is not a valid measure. Per gram is better. How many Grand of steak is a a cal and how many grams of broccoli because by the time you eat 10p cal of broccoli you might die or turn green
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>>702733292
Eh that's why you make beer. Look it up. Just keep the yeast dick
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>>702732737
as far as i'm concerned eating meat is not a fucking crime
damn you're dumb
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>>702739704
And you are still murdering them!!! Plants can't do more than wait to die and the poisons and other things only make them more desirable. Drugs are made from them and other bad stuff. Why can't you just leave them alone?
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>>702739561
You learn something new everyday buddy. Humans apparently taste like beef too. When cooked.
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>>702731026
Have not even looked at any of the replies itt yet but I am expecting a shitstorm when I scroll down.

Been eating only plants (fuck the word vegan) and just non animal stuff for years and I never think or talk about it, I feel completely fine and take no supplements, and I know there are several reasons it's beneficial, while understanding that worldwide change isn't immediately possible and that everyone has their focuses set to different values.

Why hate me for it? Give me one good reason non jokingly
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>>702740569
Im glad shes doing that
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>>702738794
Yea broccoli can go fuck itself.
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>>702740407
except we did run, this is before we used tools mind you. you can walk and track today because you I jure the animal, but back then you chased smaller prey until it became exhausted and then kill it.
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>>702740722
did you just assume xyr's gender?

you fucking shitlord.
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>>702731026
Per 100 calories not per weight or any kind of realistic absorption ratios too. fuck off OP with your fictitious info-graphics.
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>>702740708
Because you would make a shitty dinner guest
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>>702731026
Keeping the overpopulation of animals down
hogs are a good example
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>>702731026
To stop being a pussy, faggot.
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>>702740894
Xyr? You assuming that i wont take offense to you fucking up the alphabet?
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>>702731026
It's been scientifically proven that vegetarians are all huge pussies.
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>>702740946
Fuck demographics. It comes down to common sense in the end. What's best for you, based on what is going on around you?
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>>702740708
I genuinely don't care if you're following a specific diet, but you only have to tell me once about it and it's when I'm cooking for you. People like OP and generally a lot of other vegans and vegetarians can't shut the fuck up about their diet and how awesome and totes healthy it is.
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>>702738613
>implying broccoli is your only option that's not meat

Being vegan isn't about eating vegetables, just not animal stuff. Everything else under the sun is fine to eat why not? And if money was invested enough into making faux meats, they would probably be a LOT more accurate [some are, I give them lightlife vegan pepperoni and they don't believe me when I say it's not real pepperoni, then they're sketched out when they try to think of what it's made of"

It's made of ops tears
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>>702740722
Oh no! That's a completely different thing because she is a biogender and a herbivore. You trans herbivore phobe!

Stop killing plants! You murderer!
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>>702740569
So what? We don't eat then we die. What should we do? Has no one taught you the circle of life?
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>>702740669
it's chicken, and that's the account of one guy who ate them when he was starving to death.

humans don't taste like beef, we taste bad to eachother, it's to keep us from eating one another because it puts holes in your brain and fucks you up.

look it up instead of taking the word of starving people.
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>>702731026
>Because not a single fucking plant has a full protein chain dumbass
>Because I don't want to look like some vegan faggot
>Because humans have evolved to consume both meat and plant materials
>Because no matter how you phrase it animals will die and no one important gives a shit about that fact
>Because vegetarianism is a fad
>Because plants feel pain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxs_mTRjLAU
>Because I shouldn't have to sort out my goddamn meals around what vitamins this or that contains, I should just be able to consume and be fine.
>Because being vegetarian makes me look like some fucking hippie shit
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>>702741336
i hope all trans herba niggers get gassed in ww3
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Arable land restoration projects aren't up to par with our growth and consumption of plant matter and desertification is happening at a rate that no vegan or vegetarian will admit because it goes against their pseudo religious, contrarian beliefs. Shipping and packaging plant matter is almost equally as destructive as raising consumption animals. Vegetarianism/veganism is by far the most passive way to fix a problem regarding meat consumption, be it factory farming inhumanity, or health reasons.
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>>702741458
Speaking the truth.
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>>702740708
if you don't take supplements, you may feel fine, but you actually are on your way to an underlying health problem cause by deficiencies. you might not want to admit it, but it's true. it will take a while, especially if you're young, but you'll eventually be treated for something that supplements would completely prevent.
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>>702741337
Omg! A trans herbivore biogender phobe who claims to be vegan and uses that as a way to justify the vege plant rape!
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>>702731026
>what is aminoacid profile
>100gr brocoli is not a lot
>what is nutrition
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>>702741268
Well that's just bullshit and here's why

Say you saw 12 vegans in your life and every one of them was loud about it. You know they're vegan because they say so. Now you probably met like 100, say even you could've met a million, but they weren't bragging about it, so you just didn't know.

Like this kid I used to smoke with said every gay person has a lisp. Yeah, maybe every gay person you met with a lisp, but what If you met 5x as many without a lisp? You weren't aware so it's not in your fractions Boi
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>>702741458
>>Because vegetarianism is a fad

There's a billion Indians that live as Vegetarians, and have done so for thousands of years.

>fad lasting thousands of year.
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>>702741585
Just like your grandfather at the Happy Hitler Camp in poland?
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>>702741696
OK Dr. What's your name? I'm assuming you're a doctor since you know all of this shit about nutrition

I've had my blood tests and they're always fine
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also weak joints and unresponsive eyes aren't fun to deal with at any age let alone the early age of 60. On average, areas of the body that rely on continual amino acid renewal deteriorate much faster in vegetarian/vegans than those who consume a well balanced omnivorous diet.
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https://youtu.be/NrA6cmrQZ7s

This is my investigation. Ama...
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>>702741757
only 3 people know that ive never eaten a cow or pig in my life.

They're people that have had to cook meals for me.

Most Vegan's are egotistical assholes. they choose the lifestyle so they can belittle other people, it's that simple.
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you guys are so dumb heres what a 100 grams of brocolloiio looks like
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>>702731026
>Non of the violence.
Its been scientifically proven that plants communicate and feel pain. Stop being a discriminating liberal lying fuck, just because you dont find plants cute and cuddley and secretly want to fuck em, doesnt mean they arent living creatures who deserve the same rights and respect as your fuckbuddy dog.

Jesus christ, we wouldnt even be alive if plants didnt feed us oxygen.
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>>702741757
Going by that rough estimate of 12/100, then 12% of vegans are loud about it. I just said that there was a lot of vegans that are loud about it, and 12% of all vegans is still a ton of people.
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I'm a vegetarian (Buddhist).

Not my concern what other people eat. It makes more sense to put on shoes than to try to cover the earth in leather.
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>>702740959
Yeah maybe to you, but unlike you I actually have close friends who respect it 100 and eat my food as well as cook for me, yeah they Crack jokes but it wouldn't upset anyone but a scrub like yourself
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>>702731026
Is is the one of the stupidest and most misleading infographics around.

>Protein per 100 calories.

First of all, the protein per 100 grams figures quoted here are pretty much flipped. Steak has closer to 11 grams per 100 calories, and broccoli has clser to 8.

Secord, steak has ~270 calories per hundred grams. Broccoli has ~35 per 100 grams. So even if the figures here were correct, you'd still have to eat like 7 times as much broccoli to get the same amount of protein as the steak.
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>>702742007
Your nurse at the funny farm? Your other nurse? And a substitute nurse?
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>>702741759
Go fuck off and live in India then ya stupid fuck.
Its a fad to western society just like meditation was and is.
>You only addressed one of 8 points
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>>702742064
You an asshole if you sell 1/4 pounds that only weight 100 grams. shortin niggers 16 grams, id stab you fam.
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>>702731026
except vegetables do feel pain so every time you cut into a tomato or something its starts screaming
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>>702742300
check em
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>>702741943
claiming not to take supplements is bullshit when all the food we eat, no matter plant or animal matter is enriched, if not with aftermarket supplements, then genetically.
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Because cucks like you block good gmo progress making our fruit and veggies 10x better for you.
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>>702742088
Compared to how many loud religious folk you see, politicians, obnoxious marketing people, sports fans?

It's also hard not to be losing your mind over people not hearing you out, when you have a perfectly good point but people supress things too hard to listen.

You tell anyone about eating vegan and in come the jokes, brutal criticism, obnoxious questions, like it's really THAT big of a deal to just listen to something and respect it
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>>702741943
I actually am a doctor.. and your "blood tests" test for general vitamins and minerals (D for example).

we test for shit that's most common to have a deficiency, or that can lead to a. conclusion of an underlying illness.

you have to request for additional testing, because it costs more in lab fees for us. You need to have a cbc, cmp, ferritin (iron test), folic acid, hemocysteiner, lipid panel and a few others to get a full run down of what supplements you need.
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>>702742451
Well in that case then both omnivores and herbivores are getting supplements so what's the problem? I guess my health should be fine then doc.
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>>702742483
Did you know the Colombians now have coca plants that will grow in low altitude, in swamps?

Cocaine money + no faggotry = advancements in plant science.
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>>702734876
>whey protein powder.
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>>702742648
>Doctor
>On /b/

>Vitamin D
>Vitamin
>Some doctor
>kek
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>>702742906
Lul
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