I'm voting for Hillary. Anyone else unironically voting for her as well? Why or why not?
I'm a hillary fan. As far as my views on social issues go, I could never vote republitard. In terms of economic issues, the dems aren't perfect but they're still far superior to the alternative.
Plus I like her personally. I like the work she did for healthcare in general and childrens healthcare specifically, I like the work she did as senator and as secretary of state, and I think that she gets a bad reputation that she doesn't deserve because of a decades-long smear campain from her mysogynist political opponents. She's not perfect, but she's a much better candidate than people admit.
s this someone fit for president?
Yes, because I want WWIII so I can go innawoods with muh guns and live off the land while evading mercs and reguards. Trump would never start war with Iran or Russia. We need Hillary.
She's okay. Decades of Republicans going after her* has left her with a knee jerk defensiveness and tendency towards secrecy. It's this that lead her to skirt the rules with a private email server and to try to spin it when it came to light, instead of coming clean about it. Don't get me wrong. That was bullshit and it should absolutely count against her, but the case against Hillary is mostly the result of a Republican witch
hunt and smear campaign. She's not my ideal candidate, but I think she'd be a decent president, and certainly a lot better than a bigoted, narcissistic sociopath with ADD, who can't maintain a consistent position for more than 15 minutes, and acts like a petulant first-grader, picking fights with anybody who doesn't consistently stroke his ego.
*Do you remember back in the day when Bill Clinton chose her to oversee healthcare reform and Republicans were like "how dare you choose your wife to do something like that!?" She got a lot of hatred for just being a woman.
I fucking hate her and feel her presidency will be more hawkish than W's, but I live in a state where Trump could win.
For as much as I hate Hillary, Trump is significantly worse.
>inb4 someone says, "but muh johnson"
I was a Bernie supporter since before he announced his candidacy.
no. Shes literally too sick to run
both of those are just from today
heres some from the past
shills will actually try and say she isnt sick lol
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>I was a Bernie supporter since before he announced his candidacy.
Then why dont you support Trump then since he is closest to Bernie? Bernie was screwed over by the DNC and Bernie had similar views on immigration to Trumps
oh yeah, she even said herself her concussion causes her to lose her fucking memory
Trump is running on a platform of unconstitutionality and hate.
I don't know anyone voting for Trump that isn't overtly or covertly racist.
>FDR having polio=hillary suffering form a concussion that causes her to lose her memory
>FDR was sick, so this means everyone whos sick would be a great president
why are you so retarded?
Got the most handsome Prime Minister by my side, why would I want to vote for either of them? Lol
Poor Americans, always need to choose dying old bastard/bitch as their President. Well, at least they are not nigger.
>Trump is running on a platform of unconstitutionality and hate.
Oh look, another hillary shill whos literal ONLY excuse is "trump says mean things"
youre a little baby brained retard
she's working real closely with healthcare now
>and I think that she gets a bad reputation that she doesn't deserve because of a decades-long smear campain from her mysogynist political opponents
>everyone who disagrees with me must be a paid shill
thats because she cant
she even admitted herself her brain is broken
I love this. Conservatives create a thousand different conspiracies, many of them contradictory, and run with whatever gets traction.
Remember when Republicans were all saying she was faking it to either get out of or gain sympathy during the Benghazi hearings?
When you're talking about discriminating against people based on their religion, then you're advocating against the constitution.
When you're talking about targeting civilians, you're advocating against the Geneva Convention.
Go on and tell me what your brain trust is advocating that would actually help the country though.
Someone without an argument,
Must make it about "oh lol all people who disagree with me are X"
So, the irony of these posts, are that
since you are saying "you believe all people who disagree with you are x" but you pull no points to prove them wrong.
Hillary Clinton is old school politics, backed by old school politics, and is just same-old same-old old school politics.
Donald Trump is not a politician, he is THE POSTERBOY of corrupt good old boys corporate greed, he lies, and he's a hypocrite.
Having voted in the previous 5 presidential elections, and reviewed most the history of the 20th century, these two presidential candidates are the WORST that have been offered to any US voter still alive.
I would have to vote Trump though, because Clinton will be boring, Trump will be 4 years of hilarious tragedy.
Everyone knows that Trump never lies!
EVERYONE KNOWS THIS!
Get real faggot. Every candidate on the ticket lies. Your FOX news cult has been building the "Lie Pit" for Hillary for years backed by Saudi Oil Money. Do you see the Lemming staring back at you from the mirror?
When diazepam is used for status epilepticus the patient is borderline about to die from non-stop seizing, unconscious and not breathing for many minutes. This isn't something that you could just walk around with.
>Conservatives create a thousand different conspiracies, many of them contradictory, and run with whatever gets traction.
except its one
and it isnt contradictory at all
and she herself admitted her concussion causes her problems
>Remember when Republicans were all saying she was faking it to either get out of or gain sympathy during the Benghazi hearings?
remember when you shills had literally no argument against this?
How could you vote for someone that had such a terrible concussion from a sex toy?
The only reason he failed was because he tried, and hes had many successes.
(Sorry to sound like your obnoxious sign hanging from a teacher's wall)
But if you don't fucking try, you will never fail.
>"trump says mean things"
Trump says ridiculous, wildly inconsistent, authoritarian, and often bigoted things. That's a bit different from occasionally being abrasive. Also, one of the president's main duties is diplomacy, and for that, you need somebody who is capable of being diplomatic. Donald Trump does not have the personality, character, or attention span to be president.
>HRC wants to ban guns
>Trump wants to enforce immigration laws and send illegal immigrants back.
where is that hate in the campaign? I don't see it
>I don't know anyone voting for Trump that isn't overtly or covertly racist.
I'm overtly racist but I know Trump isn't. I'd prefer to vote for a white nationalist candidate but no luck yet. Only an idiot would think Trump is racist. The media repeats comments made by literally whos talking about "trump racist" which magnifies the effect and now everyone believes it.
>When you're talking about discriminating against people based on their religion, then you're advocating against the constitution.
Reminder that obama did the same exact thing he is suggesting
Try getting your news from someplace other than buzzfeed articles, okay little boy?
and stop ignoring this video
What's the deal with Trump U?
Please explain to me how someone that talks about the evils of overseas jobs has Trump branded products manufactured in sweatshops.
I have no disillusions about who Hillary is. I just believe her to be a higher-grade of scum that will be better for the country than the fascist shit that Trump preaches.
>Trump says ridiculous, wildly inconsistent, authoritarian, and often bigoted things.
name 5 things
Also, Trump has already spoken with politicians from Britain and Mexico, and got endorsed by the president of Hungary. Stop being a stupid shill
flooding your country with third world immigrants is retarded and serves no benefit other than you virtue signaling
ITT: Shills attacking shills for being shills
Both sides have heavily invested in loading 4chan / reddit / tumblr with their bullshit. Pretty sure the two are meeting here really hard, along with a ton of retarded edgelords
Everyone who votes for Hillary is a brain washed fool.
Everyone who votes for trump has at least a tiny chance to make America great again. No denial, America was once great. Trump has 100% more chance to make it happen compared to if you vote for Hillary.
Research. Listen. Learn.
Anyone who votes for Hillary has not put any thought for the future of their families into their vote. Live for today and forget about tomorrow, right? Greedy. Greedy. Greedy. Think about your children!
It's almost as bad here in Japan, what with the corruption and with our government trying to play all who are not willing to look at the big picture as a fool but it is far worse for you in America.
In Japan, hillary would be in jail. She would be on death row. She has never been a good person. She was proud and said she was proud that she got a peadophile and a rapist off Scott-free because she found a loop-hole that she could exploit. Now she has a disease and cannot function as a normal human being, and yet she still has a very real chance of being the ruler of the world because of the brain dead masses America has thanks to your corrupt media.
Everyone with an ability to look at all angles and see without a personal agenda can see that Hillary is the puppet in this upcoming election. It is proven that Hillary just kills everyone who wants to expose the truth. Look at all the people she killed trying to find the truth just this year about her email scandal.
Everyone of you who votes for Hillary is literally brainwashed.
Pic related: it is YOU if you are even so naive as to consider voting for her.
I would support a constitutional amendment that would severely limit private gun ownership.
>I'm overtly racist
I'm not surprised.
Oh, did you assume that I'm a big Obama fan? I mean, it's really impressive how much he has accomplished with the most useless congress in history, but I hate many of his policies as well.
Its very simple
Clinton + Presidency = Death for everyone.
Why is everyone out to fucking hate russia?
It's almost as if someone is controlling the most prominent party. Because if my memory serves me, it was the republicans who originally hated russia, and now its the democrats.
Thank you, anon. I appreciate what you preach
Literally saying nothing about Trump or how he would make anything right. Pretty much the entire Trump campaign right here. "It'll be great!" "How?" "Because I'll make it great!"
>It's almost as if someone is controlling the most prominent party. Because if my memory serves me, it was the republicans who originally hated russia, and now its the democrats.
Russians aren't our friends
never will be
they are a violent mongrel people.
Sure. America is too far gone to save. May as well end it. And she'll do a better job of that than Trump. He likes America, and will try to save it, prolonging the agony. She doesn't give a shit, and will burn the place down while looting it and simultaneously discrediting her entire rotten ideology.
Hell, she might even start a civil war when she tries mass confiscation of firearms. That's what triggered the American Revolution in the first place.
Or it goes to show how bankruptcy plays out completely different for those with means.
>at least a tiny chance to make America great again
When was your ideal America?
>Oh, did you assume that I'm a big Obama fan?
none of what you wrote even address my post
Obama did the EXACT thing Trump is suggesting, yet you hypocrites are calling Trump a monster for doing it
also, stop ignoring this video
Oh yeah, thought I'd Say this.
To all you shills who say "lol this country is already great"
Take a look at:
Our national debt
Our current place in almost anything competive around the world (education, economy, etc.)
our obesity rates
our retarded (femibitches)
open your eyes, pull your sheets from over your head, pull your head out of the sand, and from your ass. Look at the fucking world around you you blind, blind retards.
>He doesn't realize candidates have websites that list all of their policies
>He actually thinks political rallies are where candidates slog through all of their ideas piece by piece instead of solely getting people fired up to vote for them
Boy you sure are fucking stupid.
>constitutional amendment that would severely limit private gun ownership.
If and only if the government gives up theirs first.
But even then we will have people like Yee... so fuck you.
I don't trust russia. Russia is going to provoke the next large-scale war without being directly involved in it. They are biding their time
>Russia eats up turns with feldon's canes
>Defends and heals
I will probably vote for her -- I find her reprehensible, but find Mr. Trump to be both reprehensible and profoundly ignorant about the job he is interviewing for.
We survived Nixon, we can survive his female counterpart.
>OMG putin is a angsty faggot who flies too close to our ships just shoot them down
>OMG a russian jet flew into turkey over BFE, i'm sooooo glad turkey stood up for NATO
>OMG putin has planes fly close to other counties, planes that can hold NUKES!!! shoot them down
>OMG putin is basically having a proxy war with the US!!! We can't stand 4 this!!!
>OMG putin is arming Ukrainian rebels??? it's totally not our issue but omg he's succchhh a bad person
These things above and other silly shit are the only reasons I've ever heard to get ballsy with Russia. It's stupid and idiotic that people find half that shit even relatively threatening.
"lol Women were abused so america must have never been great before"
listen dumbass, we've all had issues in the past, but if you would look into history, you would see prior to ww2's conclusion and the 1950s, america was slowly becoming more progressive, but suddenly we backtracked and started acting very racist and evil (doesn't sound like history is repeating itself AT ALL.)
And from then on we pretended we were in good times when in reality the world was crumbling around us, sure our economy was good, but damn near everything else sucked.
IMO if we were on the same track from the 1940's prior to the ww2 conclusion, and we had never had that '''''coincidental''''' relapse, everything might have been fine.
His website is full of jibberish and he doesn't take clear stances on most issues. Even on immigration he's unclear and constantly double talks. All he's said for sure if there needs to be a wall, which in and of itself won't solve any issues.
He has no idea what he's doing. It's fucking retarded and he's going to hand the election to Hillary because he's fucking retarded. It's a damn shame.
You don't even have a point. You're strawmanning by bringing up Obama. What more do you want me say other than I don't approve of Obama as well?
I'm never going to watch your youtube video. I have zero interest in clicking your links.
Normal right wing campaigning - just try to undermine your opponent's credibility to help people justify voting for a cunt. If right-leaning can believe the people advocating something better are secretly hypocrites or "just as bad", they don't have to feel guilty voting for someone they know deep down is a shit.
>name 5 things
The whole birther thing is both ridiculous and bigoted. Trump claimed that he had investigators in Hawaii who can't believe what they're finding about Obama's birth. But dodged the question when asked what ever came of that: "We're going to see what happens."
After talking about not wanting to be in the same party as David Duke years earlier, and disavowing him early that week, he dodge the question on CNN, suddenly pretending he didn't know anything about Duke or white supremacy.
Trump wants more countries to have nukes, including Saudi Arabia.
Trump apparently didn't realize that Russia had already invaded Ukraine and sputtered word salad when called out on that fact.
Trump implied Obama had something to do with the Orlando nightclub shooting.
Trump is not mentally stable.
Yeah lets take a look at a lot of that shall we?
Just some food for thought.
>You don't even have a point. You're strawmanning by bringing up Obama
You said Trumps ideas were "against the constitution" which is a bullshit buzzword. I then pointed out Obama did THE EXACT SAME THING Trump wants to do and you danced around the issue without ever addressing it.
I proved your stupid "point' wrong and now all you can do is grovel like the stupid shill you are lol
>I'm never going to watch your youtube video.
I know because it proves you wrong. Its Also Bernie Sanders agreeing with Trumps immigration policy. Letting in a bunch of immigrants is fucking stupid and serves no benefit. Obama and Bernie agree
>Trump wants more countries to have nukes,
Obama basically gave Iran nuclear arms, delayed until he leaves office. Came out this last week that Obama agreed to secret provisions that Iran could violate the agreement and suffer no consequences.
Except no one needs to 'undermine' hillary's credibly. Quite frankly, hillary,
When you have this long stretching record of
flipflopping to the demands of your overlords
leaving people to die, with no guilt towards it
Lying like a fucking floor matt
running for president despite all that as well having obvious health issues that can and will interfere with judgement
then yes, she has done that herself.
>When we weren't tearing the world apart
Can you pick a series of years that you feel were America's best?
>"lol Women were abused so america must have never been great before"
I don't think you know how quotes work. I never said anything about women. Hell, I just asked when you think America was at it's best.
>1940's prior to the ww2 conclusion
So your ideal situation is America profiteering from illegal arms sales (based on our stance of neutrality) and ignoring the genocide of a people until it became unprofitable. You also liked the wartime economy of WW2, which we will never see again.
>Candidate who would be kept on a leash because more than 80% of congress hates his guts
>Worse than the woman who's going to get her way because she's a bloodthirsty as everyone else in congress
He will not be prez because no one in a country that matters likes him.
I dont give a flying fuck if Hungary or Iran or Iraq love the guy. Those guys dont get to vote in our election.
And in every single legit poll out there Hillary has a very good lead.
But hay. Keep on dreaming he has a chance. It just makes republican tears taste better.
Leaders in Britain don't like him. Very few people do outside the US.
Even if Trump turned out to be great at running America, dislike of him worldwide will not be worth it. The US is the most powerful nation in the world, but a big part of that is influence. You cannot achieve anything comparable to what you do now just through bullying or force - you need good will too. The American empire is relies on soft power more than aircraft carriers.
>Two people from foreign countries who don't have to deal with him like him.
Nope, you're right. If two people in the world like him, he must be good at getting along with people. We should elect this guy. Also, the list of crimes Nixon never committed is ridiculously long. He never punched a baby, stole a yard gnome, or drove a car through a Macy's store display window yelling "Where's the hookers at?" So given that fact, I think we can all agree he was a law-abiding citizen and should not have been forced out of office.
>People who did not donate to him like him, where Clinton's getting money from fucking everyone, the Saudi's included
And do you want to explain to me what the fuck Trump has to do with Nixon?
>The whole birther thing is both ridiculous and bigoted.
>After talking about not wanting to be in the same party as David Duke years earlier, and disavowing him early that week, he dodge the question on CNN, suddenly pretending he didn't know anything about Duke or white supremacy.
Hillary clintons mentor, Robert Byrd was the Grand Dragon of the KKK and she also is supported by them
but Trump is responsible for the actions of David Duke now suddenly?
>Trump wants more countries to have nukes, including Saudi Arabia.
complete and utter bullshit
>Trump apparently didn't realize that Russia had already invaded Ukraine
They didnt. Ukraine is in the midst of a civil war with one side seeking closer ties to Russia than NATO, and this side is secretly funded by Putin. The Russian army hasnt invaded Ukraine.
>Trump implied Obama had something to do with the Orlando nightclub shooting.
Obamas lax policies on immigrants and vetting terrorist is. The guy who shot that place up was investigated twice by the FBI and they let him go
>Trump is not mentally stable.
compplete bullshit meme you just made up. Meanwhile Hillary has suffered a concussion and has admitted she has mental problems like memory loss from it
now fuck off you stupid buzzfeed reading faggot. Notice how I actually have articles to back up what Im saying?
She is literally mentally ill. Just look up Hillary Clinton Health on youtube. Lots of video evidence from public appearances, seizures, stopping and staring off into the distance during speeches, exaggerated expressions, inappropriate laughter, head jerks, secret service patting her like a child telling her she's alright during a speech etc etc. And of course the blatant lies.
>>the Constitution is a bullshit buzzword
thats not what I said. I said your claim of it being "unconstitutional' is bullshit buzzword because it is
still dont have an argument
If the founding fathers were alive today and saw Donald Trump, I think they'd probably vomit themselves to death.
So true. The many who are brainwashed by the media and the 1% who clearly want her in power don't give a Fuk about anything or anyone. They only care that they continue to keep top 10 status on Wall Street.
Trump isn't as corrupt as Shillary. Anyone with a few brain cells can see that. Unfortunately many Americans lack those few brain cells. :/
The electoral college supercedes the public vote
If you live in a state where the electorate is already geared toward a candidate voting for the other candidate will do nothing
>>What the in the name of the Queen did you just fucking say about me, you little chav? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the SAS, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Ireland, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gentlemanly warfare and I'm the top rooter tooter long range shooter in the entire UK armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this great planet, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, chap. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the world and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, banger. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Royal Marines and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little muppet. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn dolt. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, mate
Yeah, because every other candidate is the shit meme choice. Clinton is bland like grits, but she's the only actual candidate in the race right now. I mean, who am I going to vote for? Gary Johnson and his pockets full of spaghetti? Jill Stein's Tumblrcore Feminism + Pseudoscience Extravaganza?
...or post-lobotomy Biff Tannen? Really?
Trump implicated a fire marshal as being part of a conspiracy against him cause he had to set the occupancy limit to one of his rallies to 1000 due to some construction blocking the north exit.
out of everything this one bugged me the most.
I mean its one thing to make conspiracy theory against your political rivals, its another to make one against anyone who inconveniences you,
thats like chris chan tier shit right there.
a vote for trump or this [pic related] is a false choice being offered to moron ameritard masses by hidden masters in an attempt to make you think you actually have a choice... and you fall for it every election year... [sigh]
>pointed out Obama did THE EXACT SAME THING Trump wants to do and you danced around the issue without ever addressing it
Yes, that's why it's called a strawman. It has nothing to do with Trump vs Clinton.
Nah, I have no idea what your youtube clip is. I just have zero interest in watching your link.
He is a destabilizing factor in the American brand. The damage he could pose to America could impact the country for far longer than four years. Even if Clinton does many of the things that I expect she'll do that I disagree with, her actions, at their worst, will not damage American credibility for more than a decade.
Dems are going to regain the senate too.
You literally just picked the years from that post where I point out really aren't that great or even remotely reproducible.
You should realize that you're talking to more than one person. I'm the one you were replying to, but >702717113
is someone else.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little red bitch orb? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the gas giants, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids elliptical orbits, and I have over 300 confirmed storms in my might atmostphere. I am the furthest planet in the solar system and I have the largest liquid water oceans in the known universe. You are nothing to me but just another point of light. I will wipe you the divert comets at your with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on Earth or mars, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of moons across the solar system and your orbital path is being traced right now so you better prepare for the apocalypse, maggot. The impact that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your world. Your fucking dead, kid. I can anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you with a comet over seven miles wide, and that's just with my gravity. Not only am I a large body of mass, but I have access to the entire arsenal of moons and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the solar system, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution you little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
>>What ze fuck did you just fucking say about me, you verdammter Jude? I'll have you know I graduated top of mein class in ze Hitlerjugend, and I've been involved in numerous secret Gestapo raids in Berlin, and I have over 300 confirmed executions. I am trained in gorilla gassing and I am ze top sniper in ze entire Wehrmacht. You are nothing to me but just another race traitor. I will wipe you ze fuck out with precision ze likes of which has never been seen before on this Reich, mark mein fucking words. You think you can get away with saying zat scheiße to me over ze Internet? Think again, arschloch. As vee speak I am contacting mein secret network of spies across Deutschland and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for ze storm, blödel. Ze storm zat wipes out ze pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and zat's just with mein machinenpistole. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed kampf, but I have access to ze entire arsenal of ze Wehrmacht forces and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable arsch off ze face of ze Reich, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy blitzkrieg your little "clever" kommentar was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying ze price, you verdammter dummkopf. I will shit Zyklon B all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
>Yes, that's why it's called a strawman.
Thats not what a strawman is. You said that action was "unconstitutional" which it isnt, and I thne pointed out that Obama has done the SAME EXACT THING trump wants to do.
Your point that its unconstitutional is bullshit.
>Nah, I have no idea what your youtube clip is
Its Bernie saying open boarder immigration is retarded
>You literally just picked the years from that post where I point out really aren't that great or even remotely reproducible.
You do know prior to the 1950's Women were starting to be treated equal, before the 50's relapse. The Economy was on its way to returning after the 10 year depression, we were riding the high wave economically.
if we could have turned that ship from hitting that 50's iceberg, then we may have been living in a not so cancerous society today.
Clinton has kept more whites safe then any other president with his 3strike laws
>Robert Byrd was the Grand Dragon of the KKK
No, he wasn't. He was in the KKK in the 1930s, but he wasn't even close to being the Grand Dragon. You don't get to just make shit up. And he disavowed his racist past, said it was the biggest mistake of his life, and ultimately became a champion of civil rights. Upon news of his death, the fucking NAACP released a statement praising Byrd, saying that he "became a champion for civil rights and liberties." Meanwhile, Duke is currently a white supremacist trying to get people to vote for Trump for white supremacist reasons. And even if that weren't the case, Trump flip-flopping and lying would still be an issue.
hillary was a child prostitute to her own father and trump raped his daughter, same coin different side... they are both just shills selling the american dream to mentally degenerate ameritards who think picking one of these two demons means you somehow are free and have a choice... go back to sleep america nothing to see here...
When you vote in America, each vote is tallied within the state:
if you live in California, you are voting for who California votes for.
Whatever candidate earns the majority vote, all electoral (state) votes go to him/her.
(It's not quite that simple, but that's how it works in practice)
But the way states are drawn, some are overwhelmingly biased towards one party or another. And since each person's vote isn't counted at a national level, a vote for your party means nothing if they made up <50% in a state.
The only states that actually change which party is elected each year are the ones where the bias is fairly even. Most politicians are aware of this and almost exclusively campaign in those 6 or 7 states.
>They didnt. Ukraine is in the midst of a civil war with one side seeking closer ties to Russia than NATO, and this side is secretly funded by Putin.
Russia annexed Crimea, dumbass.
>He was in the KKK in the 1930s
>In 1946, Byrd wrote a letter to a Grand Wizard stating, "The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia and in every state in the nation."
lol so this is ALL you have? That he was just a member of the klan? Way to just ignore every other point, like the KKK supporting hillary
I used to think that, but when taken together with the fact that he was sued for discriminatory housing practices, and championed the birther movement, I'm not so sure anymore. But honestly, I don't care. Whether he's a racist, or he's just willing to stoke racism for his own political benefit, he's a scumbag.
You can put facts in front of shillary supporters all day friend, but most will just continue to run back to their mind control box and watch CNN and the like to reassure them that their brainwashed convictions are 1000% right and that their evil, peadophile supporting, whistleblower about her true crimes assinator, mentally ill candidate Hillary is the best candidate as the leader of the free world.
They all need to take a good look at reality but sadly they are too brainwashed by the media to even care about the truth or what is in the best interests of their children.
You forget we survived Nixon by impeaching his ass and making him resign and Clinton was trying to keep Nixon from getting legal representation. She wasn't fired like everyone else says but Zeifman did say she was an unethical and unconsitutional lawyer.
because of her eccentric mental behaviour and the fact that she cant risk any more questions about her e-mails... which all you so called l33t haxors on here have failed to find or read even thought they are easy to find on-line...
i hate both candidates but at least trump is honest and open about his despicable opinions... she clinton plays it all goodie two shoes but really is a nasty one shoe
>Crimea votes to join Russia
>"OMG RUSSIA JUST INVADED UKRAINE!"
you are retarded
It is unconstitutional to discriminate based on religion. Obama blocked people from a specific country, which is legal, as it is based on intel and we have limited immigrants from country of origin in the past anway, rather than Muslims which is dramatically different.
Just so you know The Federalist is not considered a reliable news source, and you should find an alternate source for future links.
I have literally never mentioned women, other than to point out that I have not mentioned women.
She is nastier than one shoe and all of her supporters know it but their media make them cling to their belief. Like sheep. Like simple minded sheep. Hopefully a few will wake up before Election Day.
>Obama blocked people from a specific country, which is legal, as it is based on intel and we have limited immigrants from country of origin in the past anway, rather than Muslims which is dramatically different.
Thats literally EXACTLY Trumps plan you fucking retard. Do you think Trump said "REE KICK OUT ALL MUSLIMS!" like the fucking buzzfeed article you read said?
Theres nothing unconstitutional about his ideas and you literally have no proof of it.
> and you should find an alternate source for future links.
as opposed to the zero links that you provided? go fuck yourself shill
Hillary never said the things the pic said she did.
She did not volunteer to be his lawyer.
>“Hillary told me she didn’t want to take that case, she made that very clear,” recalls prosecutor Gibson
She did not tell the judge the girl made up the rape stories
She did not get him freed. He took a plea bargain
She did not laugh about him being guilty
Did you even listin to the fucking audio you say is "proof"? All it proves is that the snoops artical is right and you are retarded.
She did what ANY criminal defense lawyer would have done in that situation... Her fucking job.
The state fucked up and got slapped for it.
I know all of this and im still voting for trump.
No need to sling lies about hillary online. there is plenty of real shit to make her account for... but this is not one of them.
With two choices like we have I don't know why people are so surprised people are voting for Hilary. She's definitely a liar, but Trump is literally a living meme. He's so shitty his own party even has huge dissent. I mean I understand why certain people want to vote for Trump, as far as any ideological beliefs they're attracted to, but to act like he's qualified to do ANYTHING for being a wealthy rent seeker his entire life is completely ridiculous.
He wasn't in the KKK at the time and wasn't ever any closer to being the Grand Wizard than the guy who delivers my mail is to being the president of the United States. And yes, he opposed civil rights legislation half a century ago, and it wasn't until a decade or two ago that he really started fighting on behalf of civil rights. And again...
>For the 2003–2004 session, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) rated Byrd's voting record as being 100% in line with the N.A.A.C.P.'s position on the thirty-three Senate bills they evaluated. Sixteen other senators received that rating. In June 2005, Byrd proposed an additional $10,000,000 in federal funding for the Martin Luther King, Jr. National Memorial in Washington, D.C., remarking that, "With the passage of time, we have come to learn that his Dream was the American Dream, and few ever expressed it more eloquently." Upon news of his death, the NAACP released a statement praising Byrd, saying that he "became a champion for civil rights and liberties" and "came to consistently support the NAACP civil rights agenda".
I'm on neither side, I do however find it funny that Democrats usually disagree by stating an argument and what not and Republicans usually respond by calling people cuck or fag or whatever.
Don't like either candidate, but I'm not going to vote for someone who's going to put liberal activist cuck judges in the supreme court. It's worth 4 years of a do-nothing Trump presidency to prevent that from happening. Here's a picture of the most pristine vag on planet Earth so that you'll stop and read my comment.
>Leftum to die! (budget cuts spread foreign presonel thin thanks to Republitards)
>She lies! (not everyone that lies falls into a conspiratarded FOX News pit of stupid)
>she got sick! (she will get well unless she's been poisoned or has major health problems. that's why there's a vice president)
SHe IS the most qualified candidate because she's been in politics a great deal of her life. The nature of politics is to dig up trash on "The Other Guy" to try and make them look bad. Hillary is not immune but the FOX News cult has helped the smear campaign reach new heights in the form of distrust of the government from the American population.
tl;dr You are being played by an opinion based media to make you vote however they want you to vote through a fear and distrust campaign.
Well, considering Trump flipflopped on his immigration stance anyway, the point is moot.
You can read this if you wonder about the relationship between the constitution and non-citizens.
why is no one more upset by the fact that hillary used to sell herself to her own father as a child [as stated by family members] and trump sleeps with kids and fucked his daughter as a child a probably still has sex with her... your leaders are deviants i thought all the murkan b/tards of 4chanistan would be more proud of those facts... maybe next time you are on tor you will actually research the evidence for what i just said instead of spending all day watchg child porn... just sayin'
No surprise since this is exactly what Donald Trump does. Take his stance on the "establishment media" (read: everyone but Fox News) where any journalist who actually asks him a real question and well thought out follow-up a shill. Intellectual children.
looks like hillary is quickly losing all of her bought momentum. I guess paying shills doesnt always work out :(
>So in other words, Hillary mentor was a members of the KKK and the KKK donated thousands of dollar to her. Got it, thanks
In much the same way that Trump has sex with somebody who used to be a baby and therefore is a baby-rapist who receives millions of dollars from NAMBLA.
>implying he hasn't bashed and clashed with people at fox regularly.
Stop pretending that the only valid sources of news are ultra left places like msnbc. stop pretending that "bias", i.e. having an opinion, is somehow a negative thing. Stop pretending that editorial shows are news and not for entertainment.
>In much the same way that Trump has sex with somebody who used to be a baby and therefore is a baby-rapist who receives millions of dollars from NAMBLA.
thats retarded and its funny how desperate you are.
Hillarys mentor was in the KKK and the KKK currently supports her. You literally have NO argument against this and its funny to see your little bird brain get flustered and try to shill your way out of it
>i-its not true!
shhhh, go to sleep
Republicans make up wild conspiracy theories and obfuscate when they can, but when Trump is so inconsistent and crazy that even the nutballs don't think they can sell that, they have to resort to yelling "Shill! Cuck! Traitor!"
Are you fucking serious? Acting like Fox News isn't completely biased towards Trump is acting like MSNBC isn't completely biased towards Hilary. I mean this is RETARD level knowledge. Fox News skews Republican REGARDLESS. And I actually watch Fox News because I like to know what the spin looks like. It's soft ball for almost all hosts except that one dickhead who has basically been pining for the moderator spot he got.
>Clinton leading in the polls
>HUR DUR POLLS ARE RIGGED WE GUNNA WINZ IN NOBEMBER!!!
>Trump takes a very slight lead for a very shot time
>LOLOL LOOK AT DA POLLS!!! TRUMP GUNNA WINZ!!!!!
>Clinton retakes lead again
>FUCKIN POLLS RIGGED TO BE DEM DAY DONT MATTUR ANYWAYZ!!!
Trump supporter logic
>SHe IS the most qualified candidate because she's been in politics a great deal of her life.
And accomplished shit
>The nature of politics is to dig up trash on "The Other Guy" to try and make them look bad.
Except you don't even need to dig. She constantly creates her own shitstorms
>Hillary is not immune but the FOX News cult
Everyone who has reported on her be an untrustworthy twat is fox news
>has helped the smear campaign reach new heights in the form of distrust of the government from the American population
The 60's didn't happen. Also the current climate of mistrust wasn't from years of dishonest or outright illegal shit.
Do you even understand the shit you just put on here?
>Republicans make up wild conspiracy theories
Hillary admitted her concussion caused her to lose her memory
try again shill
Now try to claim Trump is a spy for Putin like democrats are doing haha
>"Total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the United States"
It seems if you had watched the video that was linked, and done any research on Snopes, which is pretty close to biased as one can get, you would realize that what Hillary did, is in fact true. Audio evidence to prove as much.
Lol I've noticed this too. On Fox News polls only matter when Trump is winning. What's even better is Fox recently did their OWN POLL where Trump was "only losing" by 1 point. What was the secret? They included both third-party candidates, where Johnson got like 11 points. Then they didn't report AT ALL on their other poll where no third-party candidates were included and Trump was losing by like 10 points.
>Hillarys mentor was in the KKK and the KKK currently supports her.
One of Hillary's colleagues in the Senate, a champion of civil rights by the NAACP's own estimation, had been in the KKK more than half a century before, but recanted his position and said it was the greatest mistake of his life.
David Duke is a current white supremacist, supporting Trump for white supremacist reasons, and Trump played cute with his endorsement as he didn't want to alienate bigots.
>the KKK currently supports her
No, it doesn't.
must be so frustrating to see hillary quickly lose all of her bullshit bought out support, huh :(
i still find it funny that you guys are talking about this as if you actually have a choice or that your opinion matters your plutocrat masters have already decided for you... i suspect that now that england has an unelected female leader you americans are being set up for the same fate... prediction: any day now you will hear your media outlets saying some along the lines of "england has had two female leaders and we haven't even had one" trump will be pushed to the background and america will be a cuckold nation being led by a mentally broken former child prostitute with severe daddy issues and severe personality defects... long live the american dream... land of the free my
when all this comes to pass some of you will remember that you read this, by then it will be too late... no i'm not psychic shits obvious
You missed my point, that is what they showed on live TV trying to trick viewers into thinking that Hillary's favorability is going up.
They seriously fucking put now on the left and the past on the right to try to confuse you
She did nothing but ruin three countries as Sec of State and did literally nothing as a senator. No, she's the worst, worse than Trump, and you're a fool for considering either of them.
Hillary mentor was in the KKK. Theres literally no denying this
>No, it doesn't.
I already posted this you retard. Im done with you since you clearly dont care about the truth and just want to shill for hillary in the face of reality
This argument is dumb because regardless of whether or not the president does anything Donald Trump is a disgrace of an American. If we're gonna have a meaningless figurehead I at least want the world to have some sort of respect for them. Donald Trump would get fucking laughed at. Hilary very obviously doesn't look intimidating physically, but she already has experience interacting with world leaders as secretary of state...
I'm more scared of the hurr durr muh gunz crowd than I am of people trying to escape a warzone.
>It seems if you had watched the video that was linked
I did. And never heard her say the things that were claimed.
>Snopes, which is pretty close to biased as one can get
Facts are biased now?
>you would realize that what Hillary did, is in fact true
Yes. She begrudgingly took the case and when the state decided to destroy the evidence did what any reasonable lawyer would do and got the charges lowered.
The guy plead guilty and took a plea.
>Audio evidence to prove as much.
The audio is evidence that proves almost every single statement in the pic to be false.
>She pays me 8 dollars an hour to shill, lie and troll
/pol/tards are lowkey mad because trump wont pay them for what would effectively be their dream job lmao
Poor liberals. Don't wanna work, wanna be lazy fat millennials living in mommy's basement waiting for their welfare and unemployment checks that real adults pay for them to have. Enjoy being shit the rest of your life
Honestly I hate both of them, but hilary is a lying cunt and while trump is batshit crazy, his ideas still have to get through congress so it is unlikely anything he wants will go through.
It's really simple: If you are that stupid to vote for Hillary you deserve what you get. Unfortunately, the rest of us will have to suffer as well. You are a fucking idiot to support her.
>he posted a picture that claimed Hillary got off a child rapist
>also claimed she laughed about it
true, says it right in the snopes article
The snopes article is biased, they worded the article to make it seem like the accusation was that hillary herself freed a child rapist, which is not completely true.
I can't believe I'm having to break this down for you.
Yes, I even wanted her to win over Bernie. She has been a Senator and Secretary of State. Also her economic plans are solid, most economists support her over Trump. I actually hope she signs the TPP since that would actually help us. Well versed in foreign policy, Benghazi was a mistake by the government poorly communicating and so was 9/11. ISIS and the Middle East in general is fucked but there is only so much we can realistically do as a country. ISIS though is definitely our fault for mismanaging the rebuilding of Iraq and letting the place turn to even more shit. I think her foreign policy and economic policy could be improved but shes a very reasonable and intelligent person. I despise Trump's insistence that he can fix the economy and foreign policy himself. In the real world the economy is very much a beast of its own as well as other countries, so are foreign countries. One last thing too, Iran really is not that bad. The nuclear deal was the right thing to do overall. The leaders of Iran aren't suicidal so even if they had nuclear weapons they wouldn't use them. You bring them into the global economy and they have more incentive to be diplomatic about their actions.
>who murdered 50 people at a gay club in miami
WITH A GUN!!!
annon the GUN is clearly what drove him to it. They are demons that posses whomever is holding them!
They are scary and bla.... They are scary and have the shoulder thing that goes up! BAN THEM ALL!!!!
>Hillary mentor was in the KKK.
You have invincible stupidity, don't you? One of Hillary's colleagues in the senate was in the KKK more than half a century ago but later disavowed it and became a champion of civil rights. So Hillary Clinton was friends with a champion of civil rights who had turned his back on a dark past. There is literally nothing sketchy about this fact.
>I already posted this you retard.
That's been widely debunked -- http://www.snopes.com/kkk-endorses-hillary-clinton/
The guy used to support Trump, but after seeing how much David Duke's endorsement hurt Trump, he switched over to supporting Hillary, saying it was because he didn't like Trump's hair. He also said that he didn't believe that Trump would follow through on the things he said, but that Hillary would do those things because of her secret agenda. So basically, the guy agrees with what Trump says, he just claims that Hillary is the one would actually do those things.
I guess you don't realize that the alt-right crowd has been listed as a bigger security concern to the FBI and military than radical islam within the US.
I supposed he used his koran to kill people. The guy was a nutjob that shouldn't have had access to guns.
spidey help me it's actually as if these ameritards don't realise how silly this fake choice is... it's like when people think wrestling is real or some shit like that... false dialectic is false
for real dude. idiots who still bend over for the partisan system are the ultimate in cucks
>he posted a picture that claimed Hillary got off a child rapist
She got the charges lowered and the guy took a plea deal and plead guilty.
>also claimed she laughed about it
>true, says it right in the snopes article
She was laughing about events that transpired during the whole shitstorm.
Like the state deciding to destroy evidence and other stupid shit.
She did not "Laugh about getting a child rapist off"
She did laugh about how some people can be so stupid as to destroy evidence.
Thats like saying if i laugh at a lemonade stand a child made on his own and misspelled a word that i hate all children and they are all retarded.
Anyone who votes for either Trump or Hillary are doing nothing other than voting for the status quo and the entrenched Washington oligarchy.
>You run for either R or D, you kiss the rings.
FBI database on crime is useless, as it depends on local law enforcement to update it. There are a number of well-known incidents which won't show up.
CATO and Bastiat are beyond bias.
>Only 4% of guns used in crimes were obtained legally
Damn near 100% of the guns in the US were legally purchased at one point. That means criminals are obtaining them from legal gun owners. Go on though.
He was clearly a right wing racist. How dare you insult the peaceful book of islam like that!
You don't think alt right is a term used in those briefings?