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You fags will argue about anything

You're 70 years from Earth, with the Borg, the Kazon, the Hirogen, the Vidiian, Species 8472, the Vaadwuar, and the Krennim Imperium between you and home. Which Captain do you want to serve under?
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Sisko. He's the only one of all the captains that felt like an actual military leader to me.
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>>702586065
This. Nobody else had any discipline, except when they wanted Picard to be a hard ass so one of the other officers could ignore his orders and save the day. Janeway was just a bitch.
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>>702585724
My star trek must be off because I only recognize one of those races.

Also Picard.
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>>702586065
I was meaning between Janeway and Ransom, but fair enough.
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Captain Corey was the only one who actually got things done. He is my number one pick.
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>>702586272
Also Archer wasn't too bad, but the writing for the first two seasons of Enterprise was terrible.
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>>702585724
Pike
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>>702585724
The best there ever was.
>I fucking love Voyager.
Though I would propose some changes. For example, whenever we encounter and defeat the Borg, we salvage whatever transwarp equipment we can.
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>>702586318
Neither. Let the Doctor run the ship.
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>>702586272
>Janeway was just a bitch.
fuk off
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>>702586455
Borghese queen the the ultimate gayness. Took a cool, scary enemy and turned them into boring generic vaudevillian horseshit.
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>>702586640
Borg*
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>>702586547
Edgy.
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>>702585724
Janeway obviously. Voyager's entire mission was "overcome impossible odds across a vast expanse of uncharted space get back home". Sounds like the woman for the job.
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>>702585724
Captain Jack Aubrey
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>>702586640
And if I had been on Voyager, we'd have only seen that queen once.
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>>702585724
Picard. Fuck the others
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>>702585724
Picard.


/thread
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>>702585724
Captain Jack Sparrow
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I would "hack" 7 of 9 and make her my sex girlfriend
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>>702586750
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>>702586876
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>>702586318
Ransom. Sure what he did violated the Prime Directive and was supremely unethical and violent, but you'd get home way faster and in one piece. Since you're just following orders, worst you get is a court-martial down a rank or two.
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>>702586920
Yeah we know thanks
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>>702586887
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>>702586272
naa janeway was a copy of picard. i think i would have liked her if I hadn't seen TNG. Her officers were the real shit storm. generic white boy, generic asian, rebel leader made 2nd in command? terrible premise.
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>>702586887
accurate
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>>702586988
Forgot to attach the image, didn't want to have downloaded it for nothing.
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Archer. He fought in the Xindi and Romulan wars. Everybody else were just sciencefags.
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>>702586876

I'd rather have Captain Jack Harkness.
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>>702587075
...it doesn't even make sense anyway...
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Han Solo
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>>702586951
The Prime Directive is horseshit anyways. There's a reason they violate it in every series and many movies.
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I'm taking notes here. Keep going. I haven't watched Voyager in 15 years or whatever it's been so I can't remember WTF happened.

I'm going to say... Chakotay. He's got that whole do it the way of my ancestors thing happening. So I assume he'll just kill everything that stands in our way. The Indian way.
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>>702586988
He's the guy from Pirates of the Caribbean
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>>702586992
>trying to sleep the depression away
Yep, I've gotten to that point actually....
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>>702585724
The Tranya guy with his giant lightbulb ship will ignore all those pretenders.
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>>702587295
Yeah. That's retarded.
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>>702586065
lol
The captain of a space station?
Geez

Janeway all the way home.
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Captain Alexander Smollet.
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>>702587255
>We can do this the easy way, or we can do this the slightly more difficult way.
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>>702586065

how is it that the first answer is almost always the correct one?
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>>702586455
>I fucking love Voyager.

why you trollin?
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>>702587421
He Captained the Defiant multiple times, and did a fantastic job. He demonstrated that he was a cunning tactician, as well as capable of handing a very diverse crew (like Voyager was stuck with) with how successfully he managed DS9 and it's inhabitants.
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>>702587438
Definitely. This guy knows what's going on.
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>>702587308
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>>702585724
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0D0qeR5EEY
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>>702585724
Sisko. There is no other option.
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>>702587632
I'm not. I watched it episode-by-episode from February to late-July. Now I'm on DS9. It's the best Trek imo, and they need to do more for after its storyline. Fuck "Discovery."
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>>702585724
Kirk. Be home by the end of season 1.
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>>702586766
This.
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>>702587904
After losing 3 ships and 90% of the crew.
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>>702585724

Sisko, because he's not afraid to play dirty.
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>>702588028
Eeey but he'd get it done!
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>>702586065
>nigger
There goes your argument out the window
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>>702586766
he is the lesser of two weevils
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>>702588066
BLACK CAPTAIN BEST CAPTAIN.

Except for when he goes back to Earth and makes soul food or saves Martin a Luther King Jr. or whatever.
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>>702587824
this
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Dave Lister.
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>>702588149
No, it just shows how shitty all the other captains are, since they're worse than a negro captain.
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>>702587438

I love the fact that Miss Piggy makes a joke about Tim Curry's big dick in that movie.

"LOOOOONG John."
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>>702588491
Tim curry has a huuuuuge dick.
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>>702586884
Just enslave fam. It'll be more fun.
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Captain K'nuckles.
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Captain Han Solo
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>>702587904
I would never have my captain be a B-List actor
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>>702586335
wew
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>>702586455
This
+dubs checked
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>>702588781
fuck, you beat me to it
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>>702588374
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6oUz1v17Uo
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>>702587697

Ya know his middle name was 'Token' right?
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>>702588374
Pardon me Sir, but I don't think you're exactly qualified for such a task. Though to be far, I don't think Mister Rimmer would be a good choice for the position either. Might I suggest placing the Scutters in command of the mission?
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>>702588374
I might disagree.
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>>702589190
Get rekt FAGGOT
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>>702587091
This.
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>>702589469
We'll be fine, Kryters. Don't worry. Where's Holly?

>>702589573
Oh, you *might* disagree?
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>>702588374
>>702589469
>>702589573
>>702589700


Quite frankly, I think you're all a bit barmy.
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>>702589885
Right, let's get this show on the road. Set a course for Earth. Where's Cat?
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>>702590144
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight here! Was giving myself a well deserved licking. You think I wake up looking this fine?


Where we going?
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>>702590615

He'd do in pinch. Very underrated series.
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>>702590559
Not sure if I want you touching the controls now...
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>>702585724
Picard, duh.
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>>702591120
Oh yes, I suppose we'll just talk our way through the Delta Quadrant. This should be interesting, to say the least.
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Picard you plebs
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>>702588374
Captain, why are the Borg being such smegheads?
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>>702591393
>talk our way through the Delta Quadrant

Picard in the movies was pretty brutal when called for. Especially in First Contact.

But I don't consider the movies canon precisely because that fucked with Picard's character so much.
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>>702587882
I fucking love DS9. Captain S gets shit done.
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>>702592295
Not to mention Kira...
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>>702592424
Hell yeah! TNG will always be #1 but DS9 is second to me.
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>>702592036
Yeah, the TNG movies weren't awful, they were mostly average with the exception of Insurrection which is absolutely atrocious. It's also the reason I wouldn't take Picard. He'd fuck around with some bland old woman than help save trillions and help end the Dominion War.
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>>702592550
>
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>>702592612

"There were no TNG movies."
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>>702585724
Captain Marvel
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>>702592879
No, there are no odd numbered Star Trek Movies.
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>>702592984

That, too.
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>>702593111
So there are only 2 Star Trek movies?
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Captain Amelia
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>>702593580
In what world does 6/2 = 2 ?
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Lieutenant Commander Data.

Objectively the smartest. Has access to all of the ship's databases. Most humane, because he's so frequently subjected to being viewed as 'sub-human.' Humble despite all of this. Frequently showed as caring the most for other life forms out of all the crew, since he is always asking the question "What is life?"

Best character in the show. Also, totally fuggin' bluffed those Romulans that one time, when he took command of the Sutherland, in Redemption (Part 2)

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Redemption_II_%28episode%29

The only reason to pick a non-Android captain is if you think their cultural knowledge somehow gives them an edge, which is emphatically not the case if you're 70 years away from the nearest Federation starbase.
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>>702594774
I wouldn't b opposed to this

Dubs makes it so
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>>702594774
>Best character in the show.

Don't know about that but definitely the most interesting.
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>>702594774
Data kicking ass as Captain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoN0NhO-Mm8
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I like Janeway but the only real choice is Picard.
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Why the duck has Noone posted the obvious...

Kirk.. shatter kirk not newbie kirk just out of nappies
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>>702595454

Kirk was too much of a loose cannon.
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>>702594368
Generations is a TNG movie. Therefore only 1-5 are TOS movies, therefore there are only 2 movies.
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O Captain, my Captain
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>>702596594

6 was a TOS movie and a most excellent one at that.
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>>702596594

Generations was a TNG movie. Damn, pay attention.
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>>702594774
I am with you lad
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>>702596594
I think your forgetting The Undiscovered Country, anon.
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Captain Merrill Stubing
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>>702587632
actually treckies concistantly rate it 2nd or 3rd out of all series

that being said DS9 was fucking garbage, how the hell can you people watch that shit
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>>702600316
voyager was worse and original series was the best with ds9 was second best
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>>702600316
I'm watching it right now. It is kind of slow by comparison. Kinda wish I was watching Dragon Ball Super.
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>>702587295
Princess of the Caribean was shit anyway
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>>702600919
http://www.startrek.com/article/poll-fans-most-watched-star-trek-series-is

TNG, then Voyager, DS9 is hot garbage that comes in only over Enterprise.
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Welp, just turned off DS9; guess I won't be watching it. Just turned ON Daria.
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>>702594149
>Captain Alexander Smollet
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>>702588374
kek
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Side note, you guys excited for pic related?

I think the design could use a few tweaks but if I'm being honest, just seeing the ship made my peenis weenis twitch a little.

Love the retro-futurism... reminds me of the Enterprise redesign for Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

Can't wait for some new stuff with modern production values and budgets, especially if it's more philosophical and less of an action movie rework like the recent movie releases have been.
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>>702600316
TNG>DS9>VOY>ENT>TOS
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>>702602395
The more I learn about Discovery, the less impressed I am by it.
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Also:

TOS>TNG>ENT>DS9>VOY (I know enterprise was bad, but I liked it better than DS9 or VOY because I liked what I imagine it tried to be, even if it failed and ended up cheesy).

Finally, my pick for captain (and I can't believe no one has said this) is Spock... he's just the green blooded captain to get us through OP's scenario.
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>>702602395
The producers described the main character as a "minority women" that tells me all i need 2 know. Its going to be nothing but a pile of sjw crap. Plus only the first episode is going to air on tv the other 12 eps will only be CBS's streaming service.
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>>702602562
Do you know something I don't? What aspects aren't you psyched about. Would love to hear more info about it beyond what comes up on the first few google search results.
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>>702590615
Faggot...
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>>702603095
Why would Number One being a minority woman matter as long as she was written well? Doesn't Star Trek have a long history of giving representation to the under-represented? Isn't that part of the utopian vision of the future and an essential part of what the show is about? There's supposed to be a gay character too and I think that's great.
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>>702592774
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>>702602444
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I'm too late aren't I...
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>>702603163
>that ship design
>the time period
Between ENT and TOS, not TOS and TNG as I had hoped
>openly gay character
just...why?
>possible Vulcan female lead?
I have nothing against a woman running a ship, but if it's a black woman, I'll swear off Trek for good
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>>702592612

I liked Insurrection, a classic Star Trek story, do really 'folks demands all shooting, exploding and hooling, in all of the films? Would it not be boring if you're looking at the same exploding stuff all the time?
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>>702603370
I don't care that the main character is a women (I love voyager and janeway) or that she will be a minority (DS9 is my favorite trek and I thought Sisko was a great captain). Its that when asked to describe the main character the producers only described them by their race and gender, it tells me about their mindset for the new show. It also makes me think that they will pick actors for their race and gender rather than ability.
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>>702604121
Exactly this.
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Wow, there's a lot of fags in here arguing for DS9. The the show with explorers that are on a stationary platform.
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>>702603767
I have to disagree.
>Ship Design
It's grown on me. Can't help but wonder if it might be somehow inspired by encounters with the Klingons based on that back end. There are things about the design I don't like either, like perhaps a bit too long in the mid-section, but they are still tweaking it and I have high hopes for the final product.
>The time period
I get wanting it set in the period you enjoy the most, but I'm excited to see what they will do with this. One of the best things about Enterprise was how they didn't have all the tech worked out yet. I hope we get some of that. I also am really curious to see how the show will "intersect with an event from Trek lore that has been referenced but never explored"... that could be cool as fuck. Anyone have a theory on what it might be?
>openly gay character
Because Trek is inclusive and shoots for being progressive. Always has been. One of the best parts of the show, for me. Growing up during the cold war and seeing a Russian manning the weapons was intensely optimistic for me as a kid. Seeing a Klingon on the deck of the 1701D in TNG was equally beautiful and optimistic. Having a gay officer is also a nice tribute to Sulu, who couldn't have been openly gay in TOS because of the climate of the times.
>(possibly) black female lead
Why not? Janeway was good. Sisko was good. Why not combine the two? I've also wanted to see a vulcan captain for awhile.

I respect your right to your own opinion, of course. I just like talking about this shit.
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theres only one captain who knows what theyre doing.
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>>702604885
>>(possibly) black female lead
not possibly, its going to be a minority female

On DS9 when auditioning for the role of Sisko's son Jake they didnt only audition blacks. The producers said his son's race doesnt matter and to only pick the best actor. The fact that Jake was black was coincidence. The new producers are doing the opposite.
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>>702603767

>I have nothing against a woman running a ship

It didn't turn out well last time.

My understanding is that the "lead character" isn't the captain though.

The openly gay character is probably going to pander up a storm, Hollywood just can't help but ramming their agenda down our throats at every turn. I don't necessarily mind a gay character; but with the way Hollywood is these days odds are its going to be insufferable.
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>>702604527

Genuine characters that are properly developed and explored over the seven seasons, with great actors playing them.

First Trek to have a largish expanded cast of regulars (Gul Dukat, Kai Winn, Weyoun, etc.)

Gave a greater glimpse of life in the Star Trek universe outside of the Federation.

Dealt with moral ambiguities in a deeper way than TNG.
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>>702604121
Well, they certainly fucked up when they cast Jolene Blaylock as T'Pol. She was hot but couldn't act her way out of a paper bag, so I get your concern.

Still, I have high hopes for this show. Fuller has a pretty good track record (Mads Milkeson as Hannibal was a pretty awesome casting choice), and this show will likely have a better budget than any previous Trek incarnation save the newer movies.

I get your concerns, but they have some good writers (the guy who wrote Wrath of Khan, for one) who I really hope will give whatever actors/characters significant depth and complexity beyond their skin tone.
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Smells like a bureaucrat's office in this thread.
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>>702605270
>My understanding is that the "lead character" isn't the captain though.

That is true. Another reason im not looking forward to this new show. I don't give no fucks bout red-shirts
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>>702605270
Was Malcolm from Enterprise a closeted gay character?
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>>702605206
>New Producers doing the opposite
I don't get how you can say that with any surety.

You're right about the lead character not being the captain though... that's one of the things I've read that has me most interested in the show.

As for the gay character, one of the best things about how Trek treats progressive casting choices is precisely by NOT making a big deal about it (no one ever mentioned Uhuru being black, Sulu japanese, or Chekov russian... it was just who they were and the fact that it wasn't mentioned was what was so cool and progressive about it). Hopefully, the same will be true of how they treat homosexuality. It doesn't matter if you are a good officer.
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>>702602444
checked
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>>702605270
oops, the latter part of this:
>>702605783
post was meant for you, not the reply I quoted.
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>>702605783
I should have said, "it only matters that you are a good officer."
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>>702605783
read this>>702604121
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>>702605783

>Star Trek: Discovery.....opening scene.
>Captain Ru Paul minces his way onto the bridge.
>"OOOooooo!, my butt looks divine in this uniform, don't you think Lieutenant?"
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>Patrician Tier
TOS

>Good Tier
TNG
TAS

>Pleb Tier
DS9
VOY

>Shit Tier
Enterprise
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>>702606414
The trips disagree>>702602444
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Ironically there are no gays or trannies in TOS/TNG because they strictly followed Roddenberry's utopian vision of Earth where mental illness had been virtually eliminated.
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>>702606226
Hehehe.. that's funny, but there's no way they'd do anything even close to that. If anything, the character might fall in love with someone of the same gender at some point, but I that's about it.

It's not gonna be, "Well, as a gay man I think we should fire the photon torpedoes." It'll just be a part of who the character is that is accepted by all the other characters with a need to comment on it. That's my guess anyway.
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>>702606897
goodamn I can't type tonight. I meant "without a need to comment on it."
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>>702606669
fours are always lies, newfag
dubs 4 is outrageous lie
triple 4 is heresy
quad 4 is liberal propaganda
quint 4 is absolute haram
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>>702606716
kek
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>>702606897
ds9 already did that tho, kinda
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>>702606169
I strongly doubt wanting a minority actor for a role will result in an actor or actress incapable of delivering the necessary emotional range for the part. If anything, they will be mining a pool of actors that gets pulled from less frequently and would be more likely to find someone exceptional who has been previously undiscovered.
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>>702606669
Do you want the mump?
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>>702607165
I haven't seen that episode (I know DS9 the least well of all the Trek). Are you saying that the show's treatment of that relationship was a neon "muh lesbian feels!!!!!!" sign? Or was it just two characters in love like any other two characters, hetero or otherwise?
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The unedited version of TNG episode The High Ground was not shown in the UK until 2006 because the British government feared the IRA would develop interphasic teleportation mimicking the episode's antagonists. The episode also suggests terrorism lead to the unification of Ireland in the early 21st century.
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>>702607784
Jadzia was formerly married to the character in a past life as opposite sexes, then they meet as same sex and rekindle their affair before adhering to the taboo against trills acting on their past lives... it's a really shitty episode tbh. So I guess it was more like
>gender doesn't matter, i still love you
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>>702607846
>its an irish episode
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>>702608101
See... that sounds like the kind of progressive I'd expect from Trek. Sounds a bit cheesy, but the overall message is cool. The idea that it shouldn't matter is a good one, I think, and fitting with the Trek universe. Maybe one of these days I'll work my way through all of DS9. Honestly, it was the idea of a static space station that turned me off of it initially so I've only seen a handful of episodes.
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>>702606716
That's true. I mean except for that entire episode dedicated to it.

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/The_Outcast_%28episode%29

No, what's amazing is that transgenderism in our reality far surpassed Gene Roddenberry's wildest imagination of what was possible in 2~3 centuries time.
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>>702585724
Janeway. She did get them home so....
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>>702594774
dataaaaaaa
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>>702608553
Spoiler alert mutherfucker!


just kidding, if I haven't seen it by now, right?
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Janeway is Captain Knowitall
Paris is Lt Doesitall

What can go wrong
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>>702608488
>commander tell me about your sexual organs
iirc xe was from a alien planet that was not even part of the federation, and riker is only attracted to xe after xe starts identifying as female
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>>702608409
well the whole series was basically ripped off from babylon 5, but the entire babylon 5 story arch was sketched out before production where as ds9 just sort of got lucky. initially they often leave the station in their mid-range craft and by i think season 3 or 4 get a ship as well.
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>>702608698
they could break all laws of physics, biology and god and break the warp 10 barrier and become space lizards and mate in what is widely regarded as the worst episode of any star trek, ever?
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>>702609079
Oh man, I haven't thought about B5 in forever. So many good memories of marathoning that shit with friends in college. Never thought about the connection, but I can totally see that. Technomages were the shit. Now maybe I'm thinking I should give DS9 another shot.
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>>702609220
imagine their offspring though. splooge
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>>702594774
Arguably a bad pick because his ethical subroutines would compel him to follow the prime directive. The Measure of a Man is one of the best Star Trek episodes ever though.
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>>702585724

Capt. OP Faggot.
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>>702609333
B5 really got fucked, they were lucky to pull it off. Sure the CGI is dated, but the physics is a bit more realistic than Star Trek (Starfury vectoring, rotating sections to create spin gravity). Also the original commander (Michael O'Hare) had a mental breakdown and was let go after the first season. He and dozens of other B5 actors have subsequently died, coincidentally, many at early ages of rare illnesses. Andrea Thompson (Talia Winters) left the show as her marriage with Jerry Doyle (Garibaldi) broke down. The show was constantly struggling with budget problems. The show was expected to be canceled after Season 4 so the story arch was rushed to complete at the end of that season, so when they got a 5th season it was completely shit because there was no show left. Still, with the exception of some pretty profound TNG and TOS episodes, I think there is more to take from B5 than most of Star Trek.
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>>702608553

They then threw her into women's prison for going AWOL for such a long time.

It was not easy on her womanly features.

Also, for the honor of all the redshirts that sacrificed their lives during the space trip, she took the prison name "Red".
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>>702610700
Didn't know about all the behind the scenes drama. That's really interesting. Nice to know why season 5 fell off so badly.
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