You fags will argue about anything
You're 70 years from Earth, with the Borg, the Kazon, the Hirogen, the Vidiian, Species 8472, the Vaadwuar, and the Krennim Imperium between you and home. Which Captain do you want to serve under?
Sisko. He's the only one of all the captains that felt like an actual military leader to me.
This. Nobody else had any discipline, except when they wanted Picard to be a hard ass so one of the other officers could ignore his orders and save the day. Janeway was just a bitch.
Captain Corey was the only one who actually got things done. He is my number one pick.
The best there ever was.
>I fucking love Voyager.
Though I would propose some changes. For example, whenever we encounter and defeat the Borg, we salvage whatever transwarp equipment we can.
Captain Jack Aubrey
And if I had been on Voyager, we'd have only seen that queen once.
Ransom. Sure what he did violated the Prime Directive and was supremely unethical and violent, but you'd get home way faster and in one piece. Since you're just following orders, worst you get is a court-martial down a rank or two.
naa janeway was a copy of picard. i think i would have liked her if I hadn't seen TNG. Her officers were the real shit storm. generic white boy, generic asian, rebel leader made 2nd in command? terrible premise.
I'm taking notes here. Keep going. I haven't watched Voyager in 15 years or whatever it's been so I can't remember WTF happened.
I'm going to say... Chakotay. He's got that whole do it the way of my ancestors thing happening. So I assume he'll just kill everything that stands in our way. The Indian way.
>trying to sleep the depression away
Yep, I've gotten to that point actually....
>We can do this the easy way, or we can do this the slightly more difficult way.
He Captained the Defiant multiple times, and did a fantastic job. He demonstrated that he was a cunning tactician, as well as capable of handing a very diverse crew (like Voyager was stuck with) with how successfully he managed DS9 and it's inhabitants.
I'm not. I watched it episode-by-episode from February to late-July. Now I'm on DS9. It's the best Trek imo, and they need to do more for after its storyline. Fuck "Discovery."
Sisko, because he's not afraid to play dirty.
I love the fact that Miss Piggy makes a joke about Tim Curry's big dick in that movie.
Pardon me Sir, but I don't think you're exactly qualified for such a task. Though to be far, I don't think Mister Rimmer would be a good choice for the position either. Might I suggest placing the Scutters in command of the mission?
We'll be fine, Kryters. Don't worry. Where's Holly?
Oh, you *might* disagree?
Quite frankly, I think you're all a bit barmy.
Right, let's get this show on the road. Set a course for Earth. Where's Cat?
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight here! Was giving myself a well deserved licking. You think I wake up looking this fine?
Where we going?
Not sure if I want you touching the controls now...
Oh yes, I suppose we'll just talk our way through the Delta Quadrant. This should be interesting, to say the least.
>talk our way through the Delta Quadrant
Picard in the movies was pretty brutal when called for. Especially in First Contact.
But I don't consider the movies canon precisely because that fucked with Picard's character so much.
I fucking love DS9. Captain S gets shit done.
Yeah, the TNG movies weren't awful, they were mostly average with the exception of Insurrection which is absolutely atrocious. It's also the reason I wouldn't take Picard. He'd fuck around with some bland old woman than help save trillions and help end the Dominion War.
Lieutenant Commander Data.
Objectively the smartest. Has access to all of the ship's databases. Most humane, because he's so frequently subjected to being viewed as 'sub-human.' Humble despite all of this. Frequently showed as caring the most for other life forms out of all the crew, since he is always asking the question "What is life?"
Best character in the show. Also, totally fuggin' bluffed those Romulans that one time, when he took command of the Sutherland, in Redemption (Part 2)
The only reason to pick a non-Android captain is if you think their cultural knowledge somehow gives them an edge, which is emphatically not the case if you're 70 years away from the nearest Federation starbase.
I'm watching it right now. It is kind of slow by comparison. Kinda wish I was watching Dragon Ball Super.
Welp, just turned off DS9; guess I won't be watching it. Just turned ON Daria.
Side note, you guys excited for pic related?
I think the design could use a few tweaks but if I'm being honest, just seeing the ship made my peenis weenis twitch a little.
Love the retro-futurism... reminds me of the Enterprise redesign for Star Trek: The Motion Picture.
Can't wait for some new stuff with modern production values and budgets, especially if it's more philosophical and less of an action movie rework like the recent movie releases have been.
The more I learn about Discovery, the less impressed I am by it.
TOS>TNG>ENT>DS9>VOY (I know enterprise was bad, but I liked it better than DS9 or VOY because I liked what I imagine it tried to be, even if it failed and ended up cheesy).
Finally, my pick for captain (and I can't believe no one has said this) is Spock... he's just the green blooded captain to get us through OP's scenario.
The producers described the main character as a "minority women" that tells me all i need 2 know. Its going to be nothing but a pile of sjw crap. Plus only the first episode is going to air on tv the other 12 eps will only be CBS's streaming service.
Do you know something I don't? What aspects aren't you psyched about. Would love to hear more info about it beyond what comes up on the first few google search results.
Why would Number One being a minority woman matter as long as she was written well? Doesn't Star Trek have a long history of giving representation to the under-represented? Isn't that part of the utopian vision of the future and an essential part of what the show is about? There's supposed to be a gay character too and I think that's great.
>that ship design
>the time period
Between ENT and TOS, not TOS and TNG as I had hoped
>openly gay character
>possible Vulcan female lead?
I have nothing against a woman running a ship, but if it's a black woman, I'll swear off Trek for good
I liked Insurrection, a classic Star Trek story, do really 'folks demands all shooting, exploding and hooling, in all of the films? Would it not be boring if you're looking at the same exploding stuff all the time?
I don't care that the main character is a women (I love voyager and janeway) or that she will be a minority (DS9 is my favorite trek and I thought Sisko was a great captain). Its that when asked to describe the main character the producers only described them by their race and gender, it tells me about their mindset for the new show. It also makes me think that they will pick actors for their race and gender rather than ability.
I have to disagree.
It's grown on me. Can't help but wonder if it might be somehow inspired by encounters with the Klingons based on that back end. There are things about the design I don't like either, like perhaps a bit too long in the mid-section, but they are still tweaking it and I have high hopes for the final product.
>The time period
I get wanting it set in the period you enjoy the most, but I'm excited to see what they will do with this. One of the best things about Enterprise was how they didn't have all the tech worked out yet. I hope we get some of that. I also am really curious to see how the show will "intersect with an event from Trek lore that has been referenced but never explored"... that could be cool as fuck. Anyone have a theory on what it might be?
>openly gay character
Because Trek is inclusive and shoots for being progressive. Always has been. One of the best parts of the show, for me. Growing up during the cold war and seeing a Russian manning the weapons was intensely optimistic for me as a kid. Seeing a Klingon on the deck of the 1701D in TNG was equally beautiful and optimistic. Having a gay officer is also a nice tribute to Sulu, who couldn't have been openly gay in TOS because of the climate of the times.
>(possibly) black female lead
Why not? Janeway was good. Sisko was good. Why not combine the two? I've also wanted to see a vulcan captain for awhile.
I respect your right to your own opinion, of course. I just like talking about this shit.
theres only one captain who knows what theyre doing.
>>(possibly) black female lead
not possibly, its going to be a minority female
On DS9 when auditioning for the role of Sisko's son Jake they didnt only audition blacks. The producers said his son's race doesnt matter and to only pick the best actor. The fact that Jake was black was coincidence. The new producers are doing the opposite.
>I have nothing against a woman running a ship
It didn't turn out well last time.
My understanding is that the "lead character" isn't the captain though.
The openly gay character is probably going to pander up a storm, Hollywood just can't help but ramming their agenda down our throats at every turn. I don't necessarily mind a gay character; but with the way Hollywood is these days odds are its going to be insufferable.
Genuine characters that are properly developed and explored over the seven seasons, with great actors playing them.
First Trek to have a largish expanded cast of regulars (Gul Dukat, Kai Winn, Weyoun, etc.)
Gave a greater glimpse of life in the Star Trek universe outside of the Federation.
Dealt with moral ambiguities in a deeper way than TNG.
Well, they certainly fucked up when they cast Jolene Blaylock as T'Pol. She was hot but couldn't act her way out of a paper bag, so I get your concern.
Still, I have high hopes for this show. Fuller has a pretty good track record (Mads Milkeson as Hannibal was a pretty awesome casting choice), and this show will likely have a better budget than any previous Trek incarnation save the newer movies.
I get your concerns, but they have some good writers (the guy who wrote Wrath of Khan, for one) who I really hope will give whatever actors/characters significant depth and complexity beyond their skin tone.
Smells like a bureaucrat's office in this thread.
>My understanding is that the "lead character" isn't the captain though.
That is true. Another reason im not looking forward to this new show. I don't give no fucks bout red-shirts
>New Producers doing the opposite
I don't get how you can say that with any surety.
You're right about the lead character not being the captain though... that's one of the things I've read that has me most interested in the show.
As for the gay character, one of the best things about how Trek treats progressive casting choices is precisely by NOT making a big deal about it (no one ever mentioned Uhuru being black, Sulu japanese, or Chekov russian... it was just who they were and the fact that it wasn't mentioned was what was so cool and progressive about it). Hopefully, the same will be true of how they treat homosexuality. It doesn't matter if you are a good officer.
>Star Trek: Discovery.....opening scene.
>Captain Ru Paul minces his way onto the bridge.
>"OOOooooo!, my butt looks divine in this uniform, don't you think Lieutenant?"
Hehehe.. that's funny, but there's no way they'd do anything even close to that. If anything, the character might fall in love with someone of the same gender at some point, but I that's about it.
It's not gonna be, "Well, as a gay man I think we should fire the photon torpedoes." It'll just be a part of who the character is that is accepted by all the other characters with a need to comment on it. That's my guess anyway.
fours are always lies, newfag
dubs 4 is outrageous lie
triple 4 is heresy
quad 4 is liberal propaganda
quint 4 is absolute haram
ds9 already did that tho, kinda
I strongly doubt wanting a minority actor for a role will result in an actor or actress incapable of delivering the necessary emotional range for the part. If anything, they will be mining a pool of actors that gets pulled from less frequently and would be more likely to find someone exceptional who has been previously undiscovered.
I haven't seen that episode (I know DS9 the least well of all the Trek). Are you saying that the show's treatment of that relationship was a neon "muh lesbian feels!!!!!!" sign? Or was it just two characters in love like any other two characters, hetero or otherwise?
The unedited version of TNG episode The High Ground was not shown in the UK until 2006 because the British government feared the IRA would develop interphasic teleportation mimicking the episode's antagonists. The episode also suggests terrorism lead to the unification of Ireland in the early 21st century.
Jadzia was formerly married to the character in a past life as opposite sexes, then they meet as same sex and rekindle their affair before adhering to the taboo against trills acting on their past lives... it's a really shitty episode tbh. So I guess it was more like
>gender doesn't matter, i still love you
See... that sounds like the kind of progressive I'd expect from Trek. Sounds a bit cheesy, but the overall message is cool. The idea that it shouldn't matter is a good one, I think, and fitting with the Trek universe. Maybe one of these days I'll work my way through all of DS9. Honestly, it was the idea of a static space station that turned me off of it initially so I've only seen a handful of episodes.
That's true. I mean except for that entire episode dedicated to it.
No, what's amazing is that transgenderism in our reality far surpassed Gene Roddenberry's wildest imagination of what was possible in 2~3 centuries time.
Janeway. She did get them home so....
>commander tell me about your sexual organs
iirc xe was from a alien planet that was not even part of the federation, and riker is only attracted to xe after xe starts identifying as female
well the whole series was basically ripped off from babylon 5, but the entire babylon 5 story arch was sketched out before production where as ds9 just sort of got lucky. initially they often leave the station in their mid-range craft and by i think season 3 or 4 get a ship as well.
they could break all laws of physics, biology and god and break the warp 10 barrier and become space lizards and mate in what is widely regarded as the worst episode of any star trek, ever?
Oh man, I haven't thought about B5 in forever. So many good memories of marathoning that shit with friends in college. Never thought about the connection, but I can totally see that. Technomages were the shit. Now maybe I'm thinking I should give DS9 another shot.
B5 really got fucked, they were lucky to pull it off. Sure the CGI is dated, but the physics is a bit more realistic than Star Trek (Starfury vectoring, rotating sections to create spin gravity). Also the original commander (Michael O'Hare) had a mental breakdown and was let go after the first season. He and dozens of other B5 actors have subsequently died, coincidentally, many at early ages of rare illnesses. Andrea Thompson (Talia Winters) left the show as her marriage with Jerry Doyle (Garibaldi) broke down. The show was constantly struggling with budget problems. The show was expected to be canceled after Season 4 so the story arch was rushed to complete at the end of that season, so when they got a 5th season it was completely shit because there was no show left. Still, with the exception of some pretty profound TNG and TOS episodes, I think there is more to take from B5 than most of Star Trek.
They then threw her into women's prison for going AWOL for such a long time.
It was not easy on her womanly features.
Also, for the honor of all the redshirts that sacrificed their lives during the space trip, she took the prison name "Red".