Why don't you own an AR-15 for self-defense and to protect your family, home and country?
I don't want to spend too much money.
Im not an auto sniping faggot
>>702557615
>my life, family and worldly possessions aren't worth a few grand to protect
top wassel
M1A all day, who the fuck even shoots 5.56. Lemme guess shit range past 300metres good grief
Shits expensive faggot
>>702557881
you can get them for a little over 600. less if you find a great deal and know a gun store employee. stores that buy used guns sell them at amazing discounts, but you need someone to let you know when deals come through or else you'd have to camp out at the store all day every day.
>>702558417
I know. But after you get some ammo, mags, a few accessories and some range time you'll probably be around a few grand when it's all ready to be effectively used for defense.
>>702558516
I built an ar for about 600. 5.56 is pretty cheap. Range time at may state park is a 10 buck drop off. 3 yrs on and i haven't spent more than 1500.
>>702557460
>AR-15
>weapon
>implying I need guns
I'd disarm all you faggots before you can even react
>>702559154
Cool. You're on the low end.
Because i dont want my gun to jam without provocation.
This is why i use an AK
>>702557460
Because the AK47 is a very reliable weapon that is found easily anywhere without being overly expensive. Also you can get conversion kits for it.
Turn your AK into an RPK for when the faggots are too many
>>702559323
>a 10lb $3000 monster that does nothing better than a 6lb $1500 AR can do
Almost had me!
>>702557460
ar isnt the best platform for home defense in the burbs. ive got a 5.45 ak, but for defense ive got a 7+1 mossberg 500 and an xd9 for my bitch
Because even if I wanted one,California's gun laws are tighter than a nun's asshole.
Cause my shotgun works way better for home defense. Fucking AR fags jerking each other off when they're not playing call of duty.
>>702557460
Because .308 is the way too go
Because I live in a country where I do not need a gun to protect anything. Its great.
>>702557460
Because my aim with a rifle is mediocre at best, but I'm damn near surgical with a pistol.
>>702557460
Because ak's are cheaper and more reliable
>>702557460
Because they're "illegal" in this fucking state.
>>702559865
no within your house or at close ranges where quicker follow up shots and less penetrations are desired.
After 300 yards I'd say you're right on.
>>702559852
Now use it to shoot off your tows
>>702559885
How's the Muslim invasion going' faggot?
Don't worry, I'll pray for you to not get bombed.
Because a Lever Action Rifle chambered in .357 Magnum is reasonable for defensive and recreational use.
>>702559347
Hey dude any recommendations for stores that sell trench coats and fedoras?
>>702560058
Beretta 92fs by the bed for home intruders .40S&W kicks 9mm everyday
>>702560208
>tows
because i'm a cybernetic organism.
>>702557460
Because a pulley bow can be just as deadly without needing gun license for it
>>702560377
Hey retard....Go play somewhere else. This site is for grown ups! And since you have nothing intelligent to add to the conversation, SHUT THE FUCK UP!! Nobody cares about your opinion! Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one, and yours reeks!
because isis offers better guns and your insurance will pay for the damage.
because i build my own guns and have a black belt in every form of self defense including CIA mind control and FBI muslim exploding.
>>702557896
It's a fine rifle.
.308 is a bit much for more close range stuff. Not a quick when it comes to follow up shots, overall length makes it harder to maneuver inside your house.
If you live in the city, or suburbs 99% of any fighting is going to be within 300m. Especially the most likely situation, which is home defense.
I'd only get that fucker if I lived in a rural area.
>>702560377
Checked and keked
Pic unrelated (my dog)
>>702560671
>gun license
>>702561000
Oh shit, is that the new Wilson Combat Tactical Spoon?
Damn, I was thinking about getting that. Does it help?
because im an autist and i own all the guns in the world and black men fuck your wife.
>>702560671
>gun license
>>702560759
>mfw he's furiously tipping his fedora
>>702557460
Because I own an AK-47 and a Mosin Nagant
i just finished upgrading my ar15. guis check it out am i l337 now?
>>702561284
>only one bipod
>>702560671
>gun license
>>702561243
Needs tactical spoon
see
>>702561000
>>702557460
Boston Chief of Police will never approve a permit within city limits. My 2nd Amendment has been infringed!!! Cock blocked by the man!!!
Because in my country a gun is not even to be considered something for self defence.
We can only call the police and wait patiently for them to arrive and save the fucking day.
>>702560759
>>702559488
https://www.full30.com/video/753d617d16a9cb6c09526519a0740313
Because UK gun laws are stupid. I have a Mossberg 590 but it has a 2 round tube magazine because that's all we're allowed. 2 + 1 in the chamber.
Stupid law.
>>702561440
That's bullshit.
http://www.beantownbloggery.com/2007/07/getting-gun-license-in-boston.html
>>702557460
I'm sure the ladies at the unemployment office will be very impressed.
i don't need a gun. we all know niggers can't aim. so i took tapdancing classes instead.
clip unrelated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2c-tMZSZtY
>>702561000
teach me how to muslim 'splode
For science
>>702561485
You mean clean up the crime scene?
>>702557460
Because I think the ar models of guns are overhyped both good and bad ways.
Like I know they're glorified .22s that are no where near as dangerous, terrifing, or commonly used as the MSM makes them out to be, but at the same time I find the overall look to be sub par and everyone I fired felt like an air soft gun quality wise. They feel like they could snap in 2 at any minute.
I like heavier guns that feel stable and shoot something with a little more power.
I currently own a .35 lever action, my father's old ass 10 gauge, and a 1911.
I would love to get a gun that would make a liberal piss his pants in fear despite the fact it's less powerful than the 3 I just mentioned owning, but I'm broke.
>>702561737
cuz i'm not white!!!!
that's the real bullshit!!!
they took my money!!!!
they rip you off with all those application fees + training courses!!!
>>702557460
Because I have one for target practice. All the other stuff is handled by proffesionals
>>702557460
I'm not in the mood to fix or defend against the mistakes of society and the government that made it this way.
Plus I don't have to face an army single handed.
I'm broke. I'm not spending whatever amount it costs to own that gun, to legally use it, and whatever it costs for ammunition. I don't buy into the latest fancy shit either. I don't get caught up in things I can't have.
I believe in peace.
Besides, why own that commercialized weapon when you can own nukes.
>>702557460
>assault rifle
>self defense
>>702557460
UKfag here. I wish I oils own this gun. Looks sexy as fuck. Our pussy government won't allow guns in anyway shape or format without a stick up your ass.
Can't say that I'm not jealous
>>702563299
lmao
>>702557460
my weener is more than 1 inch
>>702557615
you can build a decent AR for around $500. or buy a Diamond back AR15. Very decent rifle for a fair price
>>702564424
Wtf autism
>>702557460
I do. REEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
ALSO I have this which is my true baby tbh.
>>702564744
That's a faggots gun. Kys
>>702561243
Commie slavaboo pls go
>>702559852
Your statement is true. Also,
870?
>>702557460
because mosins are cheaper and more durable/powerful
>>702557460
Because I don't live in a fucking third world country. Where the fuck do you live that you can't protect yourself adequately with a fucking kitchen knife?
>>702565007
>Marlin 30-30
>faggots gun
I guess that's why it's dropped more whitetails than any other caliber on history? Also, it's MANstopping power is top tier. My home defense gun is a Mossberg 500 tactical. The 3030 isn't my go to home defense choice, but it certainly isn't a bad one.
Because I own the only weapon a man ever need own.
Keep that mag pull, EO tech sighted nonsense. 00 Buck and slugs are all the accessories this little lady needs.
>>702565402
/thread
>>702565566
I too keep my shotgun loaded with 00 buck. Fuck the faggots who say "ah man you only need birdshot in a shotgun like 00 is just unnecessary". Fuck that.
>>702557460
The army says they will not give me one unless I sign a contract that gives up most of my constitutional rights.
So I'm like Fuck you I don't want it than.
Plus I'm sure as hell not going to spend my money on one of fake pussy ones that the rest of you own. Suckers.
Anyone have an obrez?
>>702565523
Why would you choose a knife over a gun for self protection? If someone meant me harm I would want them as far away from me as possible.
>>702565773
00 buck is the standard, brother. Slugs are special purpose, bird doesn't deliver the right punch.
00 buck capitalizes on what the shotgun does best - huge punch, some spread.
>>702565776
you're either lying about being in the military or so young that you don't know your guns. The "fake pussy ones" you talk about are the real ones. you're wanting a modified one, or one that's not even an AR15.
>>702566076
Yup. Couldn't agree more. Is that literally the only firearm you own?
>>702565776
What the fuck are you talking about faggot?
>>702565920
Speak for yourself. I quite like the idea of stabbing a fucker up. I have the advantage of knowing the layout of my house too.
And because I don't live in fucking Uganda, the chances of a home invasion are relatively low to begin with, and since I don't live in 'murrica the chances of a home invasion where the invader has guns is practically non-existent.
>>702561146
Hey I think I remember you from either a gun thread on /b/, or on /k/....you the richfag who just bought all the memey guns and movie guns and shit just cuz you could? Or is that someone else?
>>702560671
>gun license
>>702566275
This one is Over your flat head apparently
>>702566275
he wants an automatic. he'd have to sign a contract with the military that allows them to search his house if suspected of this or that without a warrant.
he's talking out of his ass, he just needs to find a class 3 dealer, pay the 200 tag tax each year and buy the gun, which will cost a fuckton.
>>702566871
No, you just have no idea what you're talking about anon. It's okay though. I don't judge you for it
>>702566130
I didn't lie. I said I would not sign the contract. That means I didn't join the army.
No worries, maybe I didn't communicate properly or maybe you misread it.
>>702567047
oh so you think that you have to join the military to own a non "pussy version". so you're just a moron that doesn't know your gun laws, therefore should not own a firearm.
>>702566970
Enlighten me . Where did go wrong?
>>702567234
But I do anyways. Thanks to muh 2nd ammendmentssss
I picked up a sub compact 9mm for concealed carry so I'm relying on that for home defense as well for now. It's a 17 round mag. If I need more firepower than that I'm probably fucked anyway I figure.
>>702567280
Just move to Knob Creek Kentucky and stfu
>>702567423
You'll be fine with that bro. What'd ya get?
>>702567423
No one is coming to your house. Cool fantasy though.
Because I'm fucking broke.
>>702567408
you just got done saying you needed to sign a contract with the military for one, which you didnt, so you don't own the non pussy one because you don't know how to legally get an automatic in the U.S.
fuck out of here faggot
>>702567434
Too far from ny and I don't want to give up muh 1st amendmintssssssss either.
>>702557460
Because I live in a civilised country
>inb4 Europoor, not European you tinfoil hat wearing, fox news watching, Alex Jones dicksucking, bacon and cheese eating Amerifat cucklords
>>702557460
Because if some cunt breaks into my house I want to kill him as slowly and as painfully as possible.
And if he kills me? Fuck it, my life was pretty shit anyway.
>>702565523
>>702567703
Better not be Canada because they are far from civilized.
>>702567657
It's still in USA, you wouldn't lose your 1st amendment. If anything your rights would be protected more so
>>702567492
Springfield xd mod 2. Loving it so far.
>>702567569
Well I'm sure as hell not gonna buy one . I want them to give it to me if op wants me to defend my country. They won't give me one with out signing that contract though.
>>702567941
Great pistol bro. My brother has one.
>GRIP ZONE GRIP ZONE G-G-GRIP ZONEEEE
>>702567657
I know but anon told me to move there and shut the Fuck up.
>>702557460
Because I own a Superior rifle.
>>702562029
Ha yeah you're onto it!
>>702567900
>I know but anon told me to move there and shut the Fuck up.
>>702567525
I live in a shitty part of Philadelphia, where home invasion is unfortunately pretty prevalent. Hopefully I can save up enough to move out before I ever have to use a fire arm in my home.
because nobody needs an assault rifle
Not a huge "AR-15" fan
I mean I prolly will end up with one at some point but its really low on my list
>>702568280
I told you to move there ya putz.
>
>
Also, please learn how to greentext properly.
Thanks!
>>702568641
Oh God
>>702568744
don't h8 m8 its a meme for sure but its a damn fun gun
>>702557460
implying you will ever use it in a first world country
move to venezuela pistolero way of life and you will actually use your pieces, anything else you are just another amerifat playing soldier
>>702568863
I know I know but the /k/ommando in me wants to let ya have it but I'll refrain. What'd that bad boy run ya?
>>702569041
No.
>>702569060
>but the /k/ommando in me wants to let ya have it
Yeah they are not very well liked around there for whatever reason. Yadda yadda something about the round but like I said its a blast to shoot
After the sight and 200 rounds it ran 1400.
>>702568465
Yeah but what about an AR-15?
>>702557460
the recoil bruised my shoulder
>>702569616
The smell of sulfur and destruction personally made me sick.
>>702568320
Damn, you're right.
>>702568707
You told me to shut up too but I'm not giving up muh 1st amendmintssssssss
I live in Canada i dont have to fight off niggers on a daily basis
>>702557460
Because I live in a part of Canada that isn't northern alberta.
>>702571160
cuz I sold the AR upper for a 300 blackout receiver, and I don't use it for home defense, I use my glock for that.
>>702557460
Becuase the gov't won't let me.
>>702571245
That file name... so true.
>>702557460
BC I have an AK
>>702569616
>>702569935
is this from that cuck article?
>>702557460
I do own one. /thread
>>702557460
Because .30 caliber rounds. I own two PTR-91s, an FN-FAL para, and a Marlin 336.
Because every time I take it to school we have to have a lockdown, so it was seized.
>>702571491
cant thread your own post retard
I own on of these
>>702569443
>not knowing what ar means
are you retarded?
Because I hit my dependopatamus count wife, and she cried like a bitch, telling Big Daddy Gubmint, so she could fuck me, while at the same time ensuring that she gets less in the long run.
Lol if no one had guns in America than they would have no need to defend themselves from guns
>>702557460
I don't have a place to keep one. I still carry an army knife like every self-respecting man should
>>702571547
I just did.
/thread
>/thread
/thread
>/thread
Cause I'm not a fucking retard amerifag neckbeard pretending to be Rambo
>>702571697
If frogs had wings they wouldn't bump their asses when they jumped.
Cause I'm not a scared little bitch with delusional ideas of "defending" my country.
Pretty simple really.
>>702571697
If someone has a knife I'd rather have a gun
>>702571697
Except the fact that criminals aren't going to give theirs up, and the fact that there are places have legitimate need for guns outside of personal defense.
Why do people think is just easy as to take all the guns and it'll solve all your problems?
>>702571649
I don't think you know what AR-15 means.
>>702571697
They have tried this in Chicago with the most strict gun laws in the country. Did not yield peace, Results = Thunderdome.
>>702557460
it's not allowed so my country can burn to the ground for all i care
i have some tactical assault swords and acid for my own protection
>>702557460
Because if a sniper kills me through my room window then all the money I spent on this shitty gun would be wasted.
>>702571796
No? In that case your opinion on guns in the United States is irrelevant. Thanks for playing.
>>702559852
What are you? Some kind of troll?
>>702557460
AK > ar
So is this a pasta, or does the same OP spend all his time making identical threads?
>>702572182
Chicago gets guns from other states with loose irresponsible gun laws.
America needs strict national gun control like the rest of the civilized world to stop the problems
>>702572427
>this
>>702571753
But then they'll smuggle them from other countries. If you really want guns banned, you need to build a wall on both borders first.
>>702559488
AK > AR
Also checked.
Because I already own a rifle with a proven track record
>>702572427
Don't apply logic to this!
You will blow their tiny minds....
Oh wait, we wouldn't notice a difference.
>>702572427
>look guys since we can't control our niggers. you have to stop selling guns too, its so unfair.
>>702559885
What utopia is this where crime doesn't exist?
>>702572427
>criminals will surely follow the law if we make things illegal
For the ARfags here that use them for home defense, do you keep hearing protection near your weapon and is that also part of your defense plan?
>AR-15
>for self defense
Choose one.
The AR is unfeasible for self defense.
>>702572937
It's not about stopping all of it retard, but it can certainly be reduced
>>702572427
>>702572427
>America needs strict national gun control like the rest of the civilized world to stop the problems
Why don't we try to stop the actual problem: that we have a large number of people with the desire to murder in their hearts.
Because I already have an AK, I carry a Glock literally everywhere, and I'm saving up to buy babby's first hunting rifle in the next month or two before deer season.
I would like to own an AR in the future though.
>>702572999
How so? It is accurate with little recoil and very easy to shoot. Have you ever shot one?
>>702572427
You're projecting, guns are just tools, the problem is the idiots and niglets pulling the triggers.
>>702571796
You might want to read about the root cause of why the 2nd Amendment was included in the
Bill of Rights and why the verbiage "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" was included. Notice how I didn't attack your intelligence even though you clearly have no idea what you are commenting about?
>>702573157
How does taking a gun away from someone in any way diminish their desire to murder?
>>702573139
America is the only country with easy access to guns and the only country with a huge gun problem. Seems pretty obvious to me. It's by far not the only country with idiots and niggers, although I'll give you that there seems to be a bigger concentration of stupid in America
Which is why giving them guns is fucking retarded
>>702573312
>America is the only country with easy access to guns
Hey let's make things up for the sake of argument!!!
>>702573248
The desire might still be there, but it won't be as easy to enact carnage.
Are you really this dense?
>>702571420
Yup.
>>702571649
CNN please go
>>702573104
It takes more time to aim. It is not appropriate for close quarters. Easy to disarm.
Hand guns are better for self defence
>>702573374
Other than sandniggers, you are.
Because handguns are superior in close quarters, and I'm a Britbong where guns are illegal
>>702573374
Sorry only "first world" country with exceedingly easy access to guns. They're sold in fucking Walmart for god's sake
But feel free to compare it to Mexico or Africa in terms of guns, you wouldn't be that far off
>>702573376
>The desire might still be there,
And this seems to bother no one. You know I can slit your throat just as easily as I can shoot you.
>>702573312
Mexico has easier access to firearms. Mexico also has some of the most strict gun laws on the planet. Notice how I didn't attack your intelligence even though you clearly have no idea what you are commenting about?
>>702573476
Hand guns suck at stopping someone compared to long guns
And please, try to disarm someone with an AR. I'd love to watch that
>>702573248
Pro-tip: it wont
We'll end up just like Europe where people chop each other's heads off with machetes on the streets and attacking people with axes and terrorists still have full-auto AKs that are already super illegal, and the citizenry are completely disarmed and can't defend themselves.
>>702573312
>>702573646
>You know I can slit your throat just as easily as I can shoot you
>>702559852
I nearly spat milk out my nose
>>702557460
>>702573534
Wow op a brit knows way more than you about guns and hes probably even held one before. Be ashamed faggot.
I own an AR and AK.
Because none of the 3 reasons for owning a gun apply to me.
A. I have a big dick and don't need to compensate.
B. I have control over my life and don't need a gun for a sense of power and control.
C. My job doesn't require it.
I know, I know, you're lying to yourself and saying this is false. That is actually the 4th reason: stupid people like guns.
>>702573779
I didn't know places like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, India etc were such peaceful places with low murder rates
Nice fake map
>>702559974
How? Do you have weak arms?
>>702573619
https://mises.org/blog/mistake-only-comparing-us-murder-rates-developed-countries
>>702573036
But stricter gun laws don't do that. It's been proven all over the world.
If you want to cut crime rates, allow decent, law-abiding people access to guns to protect themselves.
But let's just admit it-lowering crime rates is not what you REALLY want. You want control over the lives of others.
And you can go fuck yourself.
>>702573700
Any gun is decent at stopping someone that isn't on drugs. Longer guns only advantage is accuracy, not stopping power, that depends more on the caliber and type of projectile used. The AR may be able to get off more rounds than a 9, but do you really want to be responsible for stray fire?
>>702557460
Cause I'm not fucking mental
>>702561042
I like this pic
>>702573908
Is your ak made of plastic?
>>702573933
>You might want to read about the root cause of why the 2nd Amendment was included in the
>Bill of Rights and why the verbiage "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" was included.
>>702560377
Lol'd it loud at this one
>>702560535
Lol like you're going to arm wrestle your guns hahahaha if you cop a 9mm slug, you're not getting up to pull your 10mm you fucking autist faggot. You need to play less games.
>>702573933
>I don't need guns because ad hominem
Seems about right. Also pretty sure the people who always brag about their dick sizes often do so because they have small dicks much like those who brag about being so heterosexual end up being gay as shit.
>>702557460
Idk, it seems rather cumbersome. I'd like an h&k mp5.
>>702573933
>muh dick
Spotted the nigger and/or convicted felon
>>702560759
don't make this a cringe thread
>>702574143
Law-abiding gun owners don't really prevent any crimes though.
I doubt crime would go down if they decided to further restrict access to guns, but lol the way it is now certainly isn't reducing any crime. Even if everyone carried a gun, crime levels wouldn't go down.
>>702574399
>laughed out loud out loud
>>702574714
>why don't you own an AR thread
>not already a cringe thread
>>702574751
>Even if everyone carried a gun, crime levels wouldn't go down.
Yes they would.
>>702574206
>The AR may be able to get off more rounds than a 9, but do you really want to be responsible for stray fire?
You can fire them both as fast as you can pull the trigger. An AR is much easier to aim and keep on target. Why do you think one has to magdump and spray rounds everywhere?
>>702574751
Every time a criminal attempts to rob or rape or attack anyone, they would have to wonder if the person they're attacking will shoot back at them.
Those who don't think of those consequences will be weeded out quickly.
>>702574751
>Law-abiding gun owners don't really prevent any crimes though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Culwell_Center_attack
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/10/03/do-civilians-with-guns-ever-stop-mass-shootings/
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/170254/how-assistant-principal-gun-stopped-school-shooter-daniel-greenfield
http://www.businessinsider.com/uber-driver-with-concealed-handgun-prevents-mass-shooting-in-chicago-2015-4
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parker_Middle_School_dance_shooting
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_School_of_Law_shooting
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Colorado_YWAM_and_New_Life_shootings
http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/17251517/churchgoers-subdue-gunman-at-spartanburg-church
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clackamas_Town_Center_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_High_School_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_Square_shooting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzMx3Z5EbQQ
http://www.phillyvoice.com/armed-65-year-old-shoots-two-younger-men-during-incident-queen-village/
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/sheriff-says-slain-intruder-was-escaped-murder-suspect/ar-AAgCil4?li=BBnbfcL
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/concealed-weapon-owner-shoots-hatchet-wielding-attacker-in-wash-7-eleven/ar-AAgKfJI?li=BBnbfcL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auhgbxEc6yg
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/05/daniel-zimmerman/defensive-gun-use-of-the-day-utah-concealed-carrier-stops-crime-spree/
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865627863/Pleasant-Grove-homeowner-shoot-kills-man-in-home-invasion-police-say.html?pg=all
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/south-carolina-boy-13-fatally-shoots-burglar-wounds-second-suspect-n462006
http://www.wdsu.com/news/local-news/new-orleans/gunman-arrested-after-one-person-shot-at-mandeville-gas-station-mpd-says/38855596
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epZod2qyyN4
>>702574751
>Even if everyone carried a gun, crime levels wouldn't go down.
Already been proven false.
Look up Kennesaw, Georgia's gun law and its effect on violent crime in the city. It's in the infographic I posted if you can't into web searches like a normal person.
>>702575220
It would certainly reduce the occurrence of repeat offenders. kek
I'd like to buy my own rifle, but I'd like a custom rifle. I want one that's physically large (I'm kind of a big guy) but I only want .22 caliber. Is this possible?
Why do anti gun faggots feel the need to infest threads where gun people are showing off their guns to each other? This is the last place you're going to convince anyone of anything. You're just shitting up the thread.
>>702575396
Thats basically an AR-15.
The .223/5.56 is a .22 caliber.
>>702575396
There's many replica firearms in .22
>>702557460
I'm broke, but I would love to have one. Still I feel that mistakes would be made in a drunken stupor. I rather just stay away from them lol.
>>702574285
It's a Zastava N-Pap. Not plastic.
>>702575396
.22 eargesplitten loudenboomer
No, I'm not kidding
Guns are attractive to those who are overly insecure. Those ppl are dangerous.
For the rifle I use the MINI-14.... In my case, it suits me better.
>>702575717
What's your case?
>>702575396
I actually meant the .22LR rounds. The itty-bitty bullets that are dirt cheap.
>>702557460
>>702557460
That really is a beautiful rifle.
i just have a SIG and my SOG and thats all ill ever need
>>702560018
This is 100% incorrect.
Cheap AKs always suck ass. Good AKs are generally the Norinkos or USA made like Century Arms and cost more than entry level ARs.
You can buy an entry level PSA, DPMS, or Del Ton ARs for $450-$500 with forged uppers and lowers and full auto M-16 bolt carrier groups.
>>702575763
>What's your case?
Heavy weather so I need all weather stainless steel. Super fast and easy cleaning and few parts to fuck up. Not interested in anything long range. It's a big steal heavy gun but it can bash shit to if needed.
I know all the kids love the AR platform. But out here they fail.
>>702575479
Well to be fair this thread in particular is pretty much bait for antis.
But I already do
>>702557460
>Why don't you own an AR-15 for self-defense and to protect your family, home and country?
Self-defense against who? I'm not a poor. I live in a good area. I could leave my doors unlocked and never have anything to worry about.
>protect your family
From what? Gun owners are more likely to shoot a family member than an intruder.
>country
If someone invades the US, beating the US Military, any armament I have will be futile against them.
inb4 some 2nd amendment derp comes in to call me a libtard
You know you are more likely to get shot by a toddler than you are by a terrorist, right?
>>702576771
You're just a scared little pussy.
>>702576053
I have the SIG P320 and it does almost everything. But I am going shopping for a Kahr CM9 tomorrow... Looking for a "light weight" gun too...
>>702560759
>yours reeks
>>702574751
After they banned guns in australia and implemented a failed buyback scheme that left a huge % of firearms still in black market circulation, violent crime and home invasions rose steadily.
Don't tell me that if you were armed, and you were confronted with some asshole trying to bash you or steal your tv, you wouldn't drop him. Or am I to believe you'd sit on the floor with your thumb up your ass and wait 20 minutes for the police to arrive?
>>702563299
The AR-15 is not an assault rifle you degenerate fuck.
>>702557460
> to protect your family, home and country
> not wanting to overthrow the bourgeoisie
plebs everywhere these days
>>702576950
I'm scared so I feel no need to have a gun?
Meanwhile, you justify your gun ownership by saying you need it for protection? Tell me more about fear.
>>702565773
As a gun smith, I would recommend only #5 buckshot in low brass for home defense. 00 buck is way to powerful and overpenetrates.
>>702577419
How about bird-shot? It would be painful as fuck.
>>702560371
But that's not a rifle, fucknut. That shit's a carbine. Fuck off, Nally Nogun.
>>702577419
As someone who considers myself relatively anti-gun, I want to commend you for actually using your head.
>overpenetrates
Seriously, thank you for actually using your brain.
>>702567941
Awful, awful pistols. Sloppiest trigger on that market.
Also, the XD used to be branded as the HS2000. Springfield Armory (which isnt the same WW2 weapons company, just a shitty importer that bought the name) started importing the HS2000 and changed the name to XD.
Seriously, get rid of. They are absolute crap. They used to be available brand new for $100. They were the "High Point" before we had High Points, and the frames have serious structural problems.
Get rid of that gun before it blows up your shooting hand.
>>702571649
The AR in AR-15 stands for "Armalite Rifle", which was the company that originally built it you stupid fuck.
>>702559545
It shoots 308. I'd love to see an ar15 do that
>>702577419
>I would recommend only #5 buckshot in low brass for home defense.
Very good advice! Many powerful shotgun loads are too much for the average human to handle in an emergency. I am not a small person, but I was out shooting my shotgun today and 00 buck (12ga.) and slugs would be impossible to use in the house really. Just birdbird shot at close range will blow a zombie in half just fine. After you empty the 9mm....
I wish you were all out with me today.... Pic Rel.
>>702574571
Berettas are full steel frame so they're heavy as fuck, you can't even feel the difference between them and a polymer frame glock shooting 9mm because of the weight difference in your hand. .40 S&W is the golden child of 45. and 9mm
>>702578029
There are a lot of AR style platform guns that fire .308 ;)
>>702577263
Because no one has ever broken into rich communities because they're obviously stacked with money and valuables right?
>>702577904
They are shit tier, if you want a polymer handgun there are several good manufacturers.
no particular order
glock
S&W
beretta
sig
H&K
>>702577631
Try coarse rock salt.
Zero risk of over penetration, and whoever you hit will be in so much pain they'll wish you'd used real ammo.
>>702578029
>It shoots 308. I'd love to see an ar15 do that
Fuck it!
Go for the 30-06 AR!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGsFfkw1BdQ
>>702578029
You could see an AR-10 do it quite well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLlff-FX5eU
>>702573619
Self defense is our natural right. The means at which nature has allowed humans to adapt has given us the innate skills to build and utilize tools of survival. i.e. a gun.
Lets say a lion is trying to kill a cape buffalo. Nature has gifted the cape buffalo horns for self defense. You are implying that because most cape buffalo live their whole lives not being eaten by a lion, they should not be allowed to have their naturally gifted horns for self defense because they are unnecessary. Who in their right mind would deny the prey the ability to utilize its gifts granted through natural evolution to defend itself from the predators?
Guns are the same way. Nature has given humans, through evolution, the ability to manipulate the elements of the earth to craft tools to support our survival. We as humans have absolutely no other means of defense or survival than to create tools that allow us to do so. The gun is one of these tools we have created and thus we have the right to use it because it is a basic, natural human right. The biggest enemy and predator of humans is other humans, and those fellow enemies will always seek to gain a superior advantage to oppress and destroy their prey. Therefore, every human on this earth has the right to utilize whatever means they are comfortable with to defend themselves.
>>702578484
I have an alarm, which is more useful than a gun.
It calls the cops automatically, even if I'm asleep, and there's no chance of someone stealing it and using it in a crime. Additionally, it works when nobody is home.
because i own an ak instead
I'm not really interested in playing army.
>>702578789
Cops take 10-15 minutes to show up, I'm sure he will wait patiently for them to come though before he blows your brains out then rapes your wife next to your dead body
>>702578789
When tyranny came to America... why didn't gun owners protect us?
Why didn't gun owners create a WELL-REGULATED Militia(s)?
No. Gun owners have forfeited their gun rights. None of you abide by the 2nd Amendment.
Thus, We The People, are going to repeal Amendment 2. And ban guns. And confiscate guns. This is demographically a reality within the next 20 years.
>>702578951
>10-15 minutes
I said I live in a nice area. The response time to my alarm is 5 minutes or less.
Anyone who doesn't have a gun is a beta bitch
>>702579190
Not happening nigger
>>702579205
Still more than enough time to blast you, I'd rather just handle the situation myself as soon as it happens
>>702574806
>being this new
RIP in peace new friend
>>702578789
>obviously not accounting for the time between break in and police on scene
Keep your head in the sand alarmbro, eventually a bad guy will park his bike with the front wheel wedged firmly between your pasty buttcheeks.
>>702577743
I build and sell guns for a living. I love guns, but I dont fuck around with them.
not legal for me
>>702578259
So how does that make you impervious to 9mm lead delivered at 1800 fps?
would I be allowed to own a firearm if I was diagnosed as being "clinically depressed" by a professional?
>>702579190
>When tyranny came to America... why didn't gun owners protect us?
>Why didn't gun owners create a WELL-REGULATED Militia(s)?
You seem to have a very short and very uneducated mind...
>>702557460
A couple of weeks ago I bought AR from Alexander Arms in 50 Beowulf just because I wanted one.
>>702579190
And when you won't turn over your guns peacefully?
We'll:
>call in an A-10 gun run on your position
>AC-130 Spooky Gunships overhead at 5000 feet, silent, they have your heat signatures on FLIR. 30mm gatling guns and canons targeting you.
>20mm sniper rifles, 4000 yards away.
>smart bombs
>M1 tanks.
>smart cruise missiles
>and tactical nukes.
If you want a war - you'll get one.
>>702579573
:D
>>702557460
Why have a weapon to for home defense that will penetrate the wall and kill the family that you are trying to protect?
>>702560208
If I call for a tow, its unlikely that I'm going to shoot the guy.
>>702579573
>"We'll" Do you have a mouse in your pocket?
>>702579573
Except I dont think you realize how divided the millitary would be. Plus all the people i've heard bring up that argument also said we lost in vietnam and are losing in the middle east, so which is it - can an armed insurgency beat the US military or cant it?
>>702579511
Yes, you can - unless you admitted yourself to a mental hospital.
>>702579339
>I'd rather just handle the situation myself as soon as it happens
You do realize that a person can gain entry to your home without waking you up, right? An alarm detects intruders as they are attempting to or making entry.
I get it. You're fantasizing about the zombie apocalypse, but you should just admit that you enjoy guns as a hobby rather than trying to convince everyone that you need it for protection from the imaginary gangs of ninjas looming around your house.
>>702579802
Using the right type of ammo, the AR will not overpenetrate.
Most SWAT teams use ARs loaded with 50 or 55 grain .223 varmint ammo. Lightweight .223 hollowpoints basically. Great home defense ammo.
>>702579530
He's probably a trannie faggot with an emergency safe space and a bag of pacifiers
>>702579802
>Why have a weapon to for home defense that will penetrate the wall and kill the family that you are trying to protect?
One shot from a short barrel 30-06 will knock everyone in the house off their feet even if you shoot it through the floor..... You da boss then!
Normal fools have no idea what a gun blast feels like in a small space.....
>>702579486
Unless your shooting hollow point 9mm is about as effective as a pellet gun.
>>702580185
Sure kid, go back to CoD
>>702580032
Be serious. The retarda spending their trailer rent on ARs are not buying varmint loads.
>>702579969
>we lost in vietnam and are losing in the middle east, so which is it - can an armed insurgency beat the US military or cant it?
We did lose in Nam and we have clearly lost in the Middle East, but both cases have to do with operational policy.
The question is, how hamstrung is the military? The bad news is that if we somehow had the military coming for the guns of US citizens then shit is really bad and the world is going to be fucking ugly.
>>702579969
son, American citizens aren't armed like the Viet Cong, or like the Iraqis. your millions of AR-15's are no comparison to the US Military, the UN and NATO.
You don't have rpg's en masse, fully auto AK's (even though they're easy to convert). You don't have access to anti-aircraft. You don't even have tanks. And you sure as shit don't have combat aircraft.
I hope you understand that.
>>702580024
Don't presume to know my life or what purposes I own guns because you dont. I've used my firearm to stop someone from stealing my car twice and I've had people lurking around my backyard figuring out a way to break in. The best way to protect yourself is through gun ownership, but have fun waiting for the police to shut up and photograph your dead body.
>>702580038
>white, undereducated, unemployed trump-supporter detected.
>>702580185
Yes. Many people actually have a genetic immunity to 9mm rounds you know, mein nigga! :D
>>702580375
The number of armed citizens outnumbers the military and police combined, not counting for the soldiers that would defect against the government
>>702580260
I'd like to see your guns now please and thank you
>>702580527
:)
There are roughly 650 million guns in the world.
Roughly 320 million of those are in the United States.
Roughly 20 million of those guns are US military, police and government owned.
The private citizens in the US own the remaining 300 million guns....
And many other estimates show that America might have as many as 750 million guns in the citizen's hands... :)
>>702580185
What? A home intruder is not going to brush off a 9mm. Even if its ball. And in a panic, you will not likely shoot only once.
>>702580549
>>702580375
>fully auto AK's
Cuz the NFA doesnt exist and Full-Auto isnt useful in almost any fight other then for inaccurate suppressive fire.
Last time I checked ISIS was rolling around in Stolen Humvees and pickup trucks.
>>702580655
>>702580496
I was using hyperbole, but 9mm is shite compared to .40 S&W
>>702580680
I've seen that picture posted on here so many times don't play, also timestamp with guns that you actually own
>>702580185
>thinks 1/10th of an inch, half the fps, and 1/3 the capacity of .45acp ball ammo in a handgun will kill some deader than 9mm.
wew
if you're a shit shot, caliber isn't going to unrape you. a CNS hit from any duty caliber will kill someone. anything less any you're dealing with blood loss and blood pressure drop incapacitating them. 45acp, .40s&w, and 9mm leave essentially the same permanent wound cavity and ball ammo is uniformly shit at killing anything regardless of caliber
t. gun salesman
>>702580781
Ah yes, the Bisexual round.
>Muh capacity
>Muh stopping power
>>702580781
Fuck off with your bullshit
>>702580527
so you're armed with small arms. you'll dent a couple of tanks.
>then they call in A-10 gun run, or radio in Spooky on your position
>30 seconds later you're red spray.
Do you understand that an AR-15 < 30mm gatling gun?
>>702580375
IF it were to happen the UN and NATO would not back the government. Do you honestly think Russia wouldn't have a throbbing hard on for another civil war?
fuck you/10 for making me reply to bait
>>702557460
I wanna see the life fade from their eyes up close.
>>702580893
You might as well be plinking with 9mm lol
>>702580527
New Records!!!
2015/16 NICS background checks:
May/15 = 1.6 Million - New Record
June/15 = 1.5 Million - New Record
July/15 = 1.6 Million - New Record
Augest/15 = 1.7 Million - New Record
September/15 = 1.8 Million - New Record
October/15 = 1.98 million - New Record
November/15 = 2.24 Million - New Record
December/15 = 3.3 Million - New Record
January/16 = 2.55 Million - New Record
February/16 = 2.61 Million - New Record
March/16 = 2.52 Million - New Record
April/16 = 2.15 Million - New Record
May/16 = 1.86 Million - New Record
June/16 = 2.13 Million - New Record
July/16 = 2.20 Million - New Record
August/16 = 1.85 Million - New Record
>>702580902
Kind of hard for the pilot of the A10 to use it when you have his wife and kids at gunpoint
You're also implying he'll follow those orders against his own people. Soldiers aren't robots you know
>>702580902
Implying the A-10 pilot didn't take an oath to defend the constitution.
>>702580840
Threads almost over. Should have caught me sooner to take the time to get it out of the safe
