Why don't you own an AR-15 for self-defense and to protect your family, home and country?
you can get them for a little over 600. less if you find a great deal and know a gun store employee. stores that buy used guns sell them at amazing discounts, but you need someone to let you know when deals come through or else you'd have to camp out at the store all day every day.
Because i dont want my gun to jam without provocation.
This is why i use an AK
Because the AK47 is a very reliable weapon that is found easily anywhere without being overly expensive. Also you can get conversion kits for it.
Turn your AK into an RPK for when the faggots are too many
Cause my shotgun works way better for home defense. Fucking AR fags jerking each other off when they're not playing call of duty.
Hey retard....Go play somewhere else. This site is for grown ups! And since you have nothing intelligent to add to the conversation, SHUT THE FUCK UP!! Nobody cares about your opinion! Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one, and yours reeks!
because isis offers better guns and your insurance will pay for the damage.
because i build my own guns and have a black belt in every form of self defense including CIA mind control and FBI muslim exploding.
It's a fine rifle.
.308 is a bit much for more close range stuff. Not a quick when it comes to follow up shots, overall length makes it harder to maneuver inside your house.
If you live in the city, or suburbs 99% of any fighting is going to be within 300m. Especially the most likely situation, which is home defense.
I'd only get that fucker if I lived in a rural area.
Checked and keked
Pic unrelated (my dog)
because im an autist and i own all the guns in the world and black men fuck your wife.
>mfw he's furiously tipping his fedora
i just finished upgrading my ar15. guis check it out am i l337 now?
Because I think the ar models of guns are overhyped both good and bad ways.
Like I know they're glorified .22s that are no where near as dangerous, terrifing, or commonly used as the MSM makes them out to be, but at the same time I find the overall look to be sub par and everyone I fired felt like an air soft gun quality wise. They feel like they could snap in 2 at any minute.
I like heavier guns that feel stable and shoot something with a little more power.
I currently own a .35 lever action, my father's old ass 10 gauge, and a 1911.
I would love to get a gun that would make a liberal piss his pants in fear despite the fact it's less powerful than the 3 I just mentioned owning, but I'm broke.
I'm not in the mood to fix or defend against the mistakes of society and the government that made it this way.
Plus I don't have to face an army single handed.
I'm broke. I'm not spending whatever amount it costs to own that gun, to legally use it, and whatever it costs for ammunition. I don't buy into the latest fancy shit either. I don't get caught up in things I can't have.
I believe in peace.
Besides, why own that commercialized weapon when you can own nukes.
UKfag here. I wish I oils own this gun. Looks sexy as fuck. Our pussy government won't allow guns in anyway shape or format without a stick up your ass.
Can't say that I'm not jealous
I do. REEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
ALSO I have this which is my true baby tbh.
I guess that's why it's dropped more whitetails than any other caliber on history? Also, it's MANstopping power is top tier. My home defense gun is a Mossberg 500 tactical. The 3030 isn't my go to home defense choice, but it certainly isn't a bad one.
Because I own the only weapon a man ever need own.
Keep that mag pull, EO tech sighted nonsense. 00 Buck and slugs are all the accessories this little lady needs.
The army says they will not give me one unless I sign a contract that gives up most of my constitutional rights.
So I'm like Fuck you I don't want it than.
Plus I'm sure as hell not going to spend my money on one of fake pussy ones that the rest of you own. Suckers.
you're either lying about being in the military or so young that you don't know your guns. The "fake pussy ones" you talk about are the real ones. you're wanting a modified one, or one that's not even an AR15.
Speak for yourself. I quite like the idea of stabbing a fucker up. I have the advantage of knowing the layout of my house too.
And because I don't live in fucking Uganda, the chances of a home invasion are relatively low to begin with, and since I don't live in 'murrica the chances of a home invasion where the invader has guns is practically non-existent.
Hey I think I remember you from either a gun thread on /b/, or on /k/....you the richfag who just bought all the memey guns and movie guns and shit just cuz you could? Or is that someone else?
he wants an automatic. he'd have to sign a contract with the military that allows them to search his house if suspected of this or that without a warrant.
he's talking out of his ass, he just needs to find a class 3 dealer, pay the 200 tag tax each year and buy the gun, which will cost a fuckton.
I picked up a sub compact 9mm for concealed carry so I'm relying on that for home defense as well for now. It's a 17 round mag. If I need more firepower than that I'm probably fucked anyway I figure.
you just got done saying you needed to sign a contract with the military for one, which you didnt, so you don't own the non pussy one because you don't know how to legally get an automatic in the U.S.
fuck out of here faggot
Because I live in a civilised country
>inb4 Europoor, not European you tinfoil hat wearing, fox news watching, Alex Jones dicksucking, bacon and cheese eating Amerifat cucklords
I live in a shitty part of Philadelphia, where home invasion is unfortunately pretty prevalent. Hopefully I can save up enough to move out before I ever have to use a fire arm in my home.
Not a huge "AR-15" fan
I mean I prolly will end up with one at some point but its really low on my list
implying you will ever use it in a first world country
move to venezuela pistolero way of life and you will actually use your pieces, anything else you are just another amerifat playing soldier
>but the /k/ommando in me wants to let ya have it
Yeah they are not very well liked around there for whatever reason. Yadda yadda something about the round but like I said its a blast to shoot
After the sight and 200 rounds it ran 1400.
I live in Canada i dont have to fight off niggers on a daily basis
Because I hit my dependopatamus count wife, and she cried like a bitch, telling Big Daddy Gubmint, so she could fuck me, while at the same time ensuring that she gets less in the long run.
Except the fact that criminals aren't going to give theirs up, and the fact that there are places have legitimate need for guns outside of personal defense.
Why do people think is just easy as to take all the guns and it'll solve all your problems?
So is this a pasta, or does the same OP spend all his time making identical threads?
Because I already own a rifle with a proven track record
>America needs strict national gun control like the rest of the civilized world to stop the problems
Why don't we try to stop the actual problem: that we have a large number of people with the desire to murder in their hearts.
Because I already have an AK, I carry a Glock literally everywhere, and I'm saving up to buy babby's first hunting rifle in the next month or two before deer season.
I would like to own an AR in the future though.
You might want to read about the root cause of why the 2nd Amendment was included in the
Bill of Rights and why the verbiage "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" was included. Notice how I didn't attack your intelligence even though you clearly have no idea what you are commenting about?
America is the only country with easy access to guns and the only country with a huge gun problem. Seems pretty obvious to me. It's by far not the only country with idiots and niggers, although I'll give you that there seems to be a bigger concentration of stupid in America
Which is why giving them guns is fucking retarded
Sorry only "first world" country with exceedingly easy access to guns. They're sold in fucking Walmart for god's sake
But feel free to compare it to Mexico or Africa in terms of guns, you wouldn't be that far off
Mexico has easier access to firearms. Mexico also has some of the most strict gun laws on the planet. Notice how I didn't attack your intelligence even though you clearly have no idea what you are commenting about?
Pro-tip: it wont
We'll end up just like Europe where people chop each other's heads off with machetes on the streets and attacking people with axes and terrorists still have full-auto AKs that are already super illegal, and the citizenry are completely disarmed and can't defend themselves.
>You know I can slit your throat just as easily as I can shoot you
Because none of the 3 reasons for owning a gun apply to me.
A. I have a big dick and don't need to compensate.
B. I have control over my life and don't need a gun for a sense of power and control.
C. My job doesn't require it.
I know, I know, you're lying to yourself and saying this is false. That is actually the 4th reason: stupid people like guns.
But stricter gun laws don't do that. It's been proven all over the world.
If you want to cut crime rates, allow decent, law-abiding people access to guns to protect themselves.
But let's just admit it-lowering crime rates is not what you REALLY want. You want control over the lives of others.
And you can go fuck yourself.
Any gun is decent at stopping someone that isn't on drugs. Longer guns only advantage is accuracy, not stopping power, that depends more on the caliber and type of projectile used. The AR may be able to get off more rounds than a 9, but do you really want to be responsible for stray fire?
>You might want to read about the root cause of why the 2nd Amendment was included in the
>Bill of Rights and why the verbiage "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" was included.
>I don't need guns because ad hominem
Seems about right. Also pretty sure the people who always brag about their dick sizes often do so because they have small dicks much like those who brag about being so heterosexual end up being gay as shit.
Spotted the nigger and/or convicted felon
don't make this a cringe thread
Law-abiding gun owners don't really prevent any crimes though.
I doubt crime would go down if they decided to further restrict access to guns, but lol the way it is now certainly isn't reducing any crime. Even if everyone carried a gun, crime levels wouldn't go down.
>The AR may be able to get off more rounds than a 9, but do you really want to be responsible for stray fire?
You can fire them both as fast as you can pull the trigger. An AR is much easier to aim and keep on target. Why do you think one has to magdump and spray rounds everywhere?
Every time a criminal attempts to rob or rape or attack anyone, they would have to wonder if the person they're attacking will shoot back at them.
Those who don't think of those consequences will be weeded out quickly.
>Law-abiding gun owners don't really prevent any crimes though.
>Even if everyone carried a gun, crime levels wouldn't go down.
Already been proven false.
Look up Kennesaw, Georgia's gun law and its effect on violent crime in the city. It's in the infographic I posted if you can't into web searches like a normal person.
Why do anti gun faggots feel the need to infest threads where gun people are showing off their guns to each other? This is the last place you're going to convince anyone of anything. You're just shitting up the thread.
For the rifle I use the MINI-14.... In my case, it suits me better.
i just have a SIG and my SOG and thats all ill ever need
This is 100% incorrect.
Cheap AKs always suck ass. Good AKs are generally the Norinkos or USA made like Century Arms and cost more than entry level ARs.
You can buy an entry level PSA, DPMS, or Del Ton ARs for $450-$500 with forged uppers and lowers and full auto M-16 bolt carrier groups.
>What's your case?
Heavy weather so I need all weather stainless steel. Super fast and easy cleaning and few parts to fuck up. Not interested in anything long range. It's a big steal heavy gun but it can bash shit to if needed.
I know all the kids love the AR platform. But out here they fail.
>Why don't you own an AR-15 for self-defense and to protect your family, home and country?
Self-defense against who? I'm not a poor. I live in a good area. I could leave my doors unlocked and never have anything to worry about.
>protect your family
From what? Gun owners are more likely to shoot a family member than an intruder.
If someone invades the US, beating the US Military, any armament I have will be futile against them.
inb4 some 2nd amendment derp comes in to call me a libtard
I have the SIG P320 and it does almost everything. But I am going shopping for a Kahr CM9 tomorrow... Looking for a "light weight" gun too...
After they banned guns in australia and implemented a failed buyback scheme that left a huge % of firearms still in black market circulation, violent crime and home invasions rose steadily.
Don't tell me that if you were armed, and you were confronted with some asshole trying to bash you or steal your tv, you wouldn't drop him. Or am I to believe you'd sit on the floor with your thumb up your ass and wait 20 minutes for the police to arrive?
I'm scared so I feel no need to have a gun?
Meanwhile, you justify your gun ownership by saying you need it for protection? Tell me more about fear.
Awful, awful pistols. Sloppiest trigger on that market.
Also, the XD used to be branded as the HS2000. Springfield Armory (which isnt the same WW2 weapons company, just a shitty importer that bought the name) started importing the HS2000 and changed the name to XD.
Seriously, get rid of. They are absolute crap. They used to be available brand new for $100. They were the "High Point" before we had High Points, and the frames have serious structural problems.
Get rid of that gun before it blows up your shooting hand.
>I would recommend only #5 buckshot in low brass for home defense.
Very good advice! Many powerful shotgun loads are too much for the average human to handle in an emergency. I am not a small person, but I was out shooting my shotgun today and 00 buck (12ga.) and slugs would be impossible to use in the house really. Just birdbird shot at close range will blow a zombie in half just fine. After you empty the 9mm....
I wish you were all out with me today.... Pic Rel.
Berettas are full steel frame so they're heavy as fuck, you can't even feel the difference between them and a polymer frame glock shooting 9mm because of the weight difference in your hand. .40 S&W is the golden child of 45. and 9mm
Self defense is our natural right. The means at which nature has allowed humans to adapt has given us the innate skills to build and utilize tools of survival. i.e. a gun.
Lets say a lion is trying to kill a cape buffalo. Nature has gifted the cape buffalo horns for self defense. You are implying that because most cape buffalo live their whole lives not being eaten by a lion, they should not be allowed to have their naturally gifted horns for self defense because they are unnecessary. Who in their right mind would deny the prey the ability to utilize its gifts granted through natural evolution to defend itself from the predators?
Guns are the same way. Nature has given humans, through evolution, the ability to manipulate the elements of the earth to craft tools to support our survival. We as humans have absolutely no other means of defense or survival than to create tools that allow us to do so. The gun is one of these tools we have created and thus we have the right to use it because it is a basic, natural human right. The biggest enemy and predator of humans is other humans, and those fellow enemies will always seek to gain a superior advantage to oppress and destroy their prey. Therefore, every human on this earth has the right to utilize whatever means they are comfortable with to defend themselves.
I have an alarm, which is more useful than a gun.
It calls the cops automatically, even if I'm asleep, and there's no chance of someone stealing it and using it in a crime. Additionally, it works when nobody is home.
When tyranny came to America... why didn't gun owners protect us?
Why didn't gun owners create a WELL-REGULATED Militia(s)?
No. Gun owners have forfeited their gun rights. None of you abide by the 2nd Amendment.
Thus, We The People, are going to repeal Amendment 2. And ban guns. And confiscate guns. This is demographically a reality within the next 20 years.
I said I live in a nice area. The response time to my alarm is 5 minutes or less.
>being this new
RIP in peace new friend
>obviously not accounting for the time between break in and police on scene
Keep your head in the sand alarmbro, eventually a bad guy will park his bike with the front wheel wedged firmly between your pasty buttcheeks.
>When tyranny came to America... why didn't gun owners protect us?
>Why didn't gun owners create a WELL-REGULATED Militia(s)?
You seem to have a very short and very uneducated mind...
And when you won't turn over your guns peacefully?
>call in an A-10 gun run on your position
>AC-130 Spooky Gunships overhead at 5000 feet, silent, they have your heat signatures on FLIR. 30mm gatling guns and canons targeting you.
>20mm sniper rifles, 4000 yards away.
>smart cruise missiles
>and tactical nukes.
If you want a war - you'll get one.
>"We'll" Do you have a mouse in your pocket?
Except I dont think you realize how divided the millitary would be. Plus all the people i've heard bring up that argument also said we lost in vietnam and are losing in the middle east, so which is it - can an armed insurgency beat the US military or cant it?
Yes, you can - unless you admitted yourself to a mental hospital.
>I'd rather just handle the situation myself as soon as it happens
You do realize that a person can gain entry to your home without waking you up, right? An alarm detects intruders as they are attempting to or making entry.
I get it. You're fantasizing about the zombie apocalypse, but you should just admit that you enjoy guns as a hobby rather than trying to convince everyone that you need it for protection from the imaginary gangs of ninjas looming around your house.
Using the right type of ammo, the AR will not overpenetrate.
Most SWAT teams use ARs loaded with 50 or 55 grain .223 varmint ammo. Lightweight .223 hollowpoints basically. Great home defense ammo.
>Why have a weapon to for home defense that will penetrate the wall and kill the family that you are trying to protect?
One shot from a short barrel 30-06 will knock everyone in the house off their feet even if you shoot it through the floor..... You da boss then!
Normal fools have no idea what a gun blast feels like in a small space.....
>we lost in vietnam and are losing in the middle east, so which is it - can an armed insurgency beat the US military or cant it?
We did lose in Nam and we have clearly lost in the Middle East, but both cases have to do with operational policy.
The question is, how hamstrung is the military? The bad news is that if we somehow had the military coming for the guns of US citizens then shit is really bad and the world is going to be fucking ugly.
son, American citizens aren't armed like the Viet Cong, or like the Iraqis. your millions of AR-15's are no comparison to the US Military, the UN and NATO.
You don't have rpg's en masse, fully auto AK's (even though they're easy to convert). You don't have access to anti-aircraft. You don't even have tanks. And you sure as shit don't have combat aircraft.
I hope you understand that.
Don't presume to know my life or what purposes I own guns because you dont. I've used my firearm to stop someone from stealing my car twice and I've had people lurking around my backyard figuring out a way to break in. The best way to protect yourself is through gun ownership, but have fun waiting for the police to shut up and photograph your dead body.
Yes. Many people actually have a genetic immunity to 9mm rounds you know, mein nigga! :D
I'd like to see your guns now please and thank you
There are roughly 650 million guns in the world.
Roughly 320 million of those are in the United States.
Roughly 20 million of those guns are US military, police and government owned.
The private citizens in the US own the remaining 300 million guns....
And many other estimates show that America might have as many as 750 million guns in the citizen's hands... :)
>fully auto AK's
Cuz the NFA doesnt exist and Full-Auto isnt useful in almost any fight other then for inaccurate suppressive fire.
Last time I checked ISIS was rolling around in Stolen Humvees and pickup trucks.
>thinks 1/10th of an inch, half the fps, and 1/3 the capacity of .45acp ball ammo in a handgun will kill some deader than 9mm.
if you're a shit shot, caliber isn't going to unrape you. a CNS hit from any duty caliber will kill someone. anything less any you're dealing with blood loss and blood pressure drop incapacitating them. 45acp, .40s&w, and 9mm leave essentially the same permanent wound cavity and ball ammo is uniformly shit at killing anything regardless of caliber
t. gun salesman
so you're armed with small arms. you'll dent a couple of tanks.
>then they call in A-10 gun run, or radio in Spooky on your position
>30 seconds later you're red spray.
Do you understand that an AR-15 < 30mm gatling gun?
IF it were to happen the UN and NATO would not back the government. Do you honestly think Russia wouldn't have a throbbing hard on for another civil war?
fuck you/10 for making me reply to bait
2015/16 NICS background checks:
May/15 = 1.6 Million - New Record
June/15 = 1.5 Million - New Record
July/15 = 1.6 Million - New Record
Augest/15 = 1.7 Million - New Record
September/15 = 1.8 Million - New Record
October/15 = 1.98 million - New Record
November/15 = 2.24 Million - New Record
December/15 = 3.3 Million - New Record
January/16 = 2.55 Million - New Record
February/16 = 2.61 Million - New Record
March/16 = 2.52 Million - New Record
April/16 = 2.15 Million - New Record
May/16 = 1.86 Million - New Record
June/16 = 2.13 Million - New Record
July/16 = 2.20 Million - New Record
August/16 = 1.85 Million - New Record
Kind of hard for the pilot of the A10 to use it when you have his wife and kids at gunpoint
You're also implying he'll follow those orders against his own people. Soldiers aren't robots you know