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does Gordon Ramsay know what the fuck he's talking about?
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>>702549281
who cares about grease in a pizza, it's a fucking pizza but he's right about the crust
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italianfag here, you know nothing..sorry man
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>>702549603
There shouldn't be anything greasy on a pizza except maybe the pepperoni, and it shouldn't be swimming in it because pepperoni is a shit meat.
The sauce can have olive oil in it, but not enough that it's separated.
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>>702549876
get the fuck out of here with your bullshit nasty ass pizza you hipster cunt
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>>702549281
bump
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IT'S RAW!!!!!!!!
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>>702549876
fug you i put bacon on mine, bacon is greasy
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>>702549281
i've worked for 6 years in a pizzeria in italy during my studies. I can swear you that is almost 50% of an italian pizza
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>>702549281
yes, yes he does.
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>>702549281
i like pizza hut and a coke
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>>702549281
this sausage is so raw, an unshaven muslim is trying to fuck it
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>>702549876
pepperoni not greasy?
its like 50% fat you fucktard
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>>702549281
Pizza should either be thin thin crust like new York style or deep dish Chicago. Anything in between sucks a fat cock.
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>>702549281
Gordon's right that is a shit pizza. I wouldn't pay for whatever that guy is charging if I got something like that.
Too greasy, too doughy, & it's still undercooked.
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dominos pizza is the best za ever!
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>>702551088
Where did he say it wasnt greasy? He said the only greasy thing should be pepperoni or olive oil.
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Ramsay a shit, That pizza looks fucking tasty, would eat.
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>>702551100
this
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>>702549281
looks like an alright pizza, definitely not the best pizza in the country though lol gordon ramsay is a pussy ass bitch either way
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>>702551100
Triple dubs speaks the truth.
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its obviously an exaggerated reaction im pretty sure that pizza was at least ok. What are you, like 11? ts a tv show.
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>>702551100
get the fuck out with your sauce on top of your cheese your freak
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All US reality TV has ridiculous acting.

It's worst when they set the scene in another country, and pretend to be regulars from that country. They end up looking like aliens, something completely new.

In case American's don't know, reality TV in other countries involves filming reality.
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>>702549281

gordon ramsay knows more about food than any american that ever lived, so yes he does
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>>702549281
I've been to that pizza place before, pizza is actually pretty fucking good. I'm from chicago and know what good pizza tastes like, it's comparable to what I look for in a pizza. Anyone who bases their opinion on some shitty television personality trying to get viewership is retarded. Go try it yourself and let your own taste buds decide.
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>>702552320
>I'm from chicago and know what good pizza tastes like
hilarious m8
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>>702552243
DAE AMERIKA SUCKZ???
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>>702549281
yes that pizza looks like shit
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>>702549281
He does IRL, not in the show.
He is paid to do what he does best, insult. You woulnt have a show with him without insults.

I don't think his reviws on show reflects what he thinks IRL
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>>702549281
His shows consist of him complaining about food and food accessories. That's what people look for when they watch his shows. He has to hate everything or nobody would watch him anymore.
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two retards who make a living being assholes and acting like they have superior taste
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>>702552320
>I'm from chicago and know what good pizza tastes like
Implying that a random Chicago faggot knows more than a trained, highly skilled chef who has nearly 20 Michelin Stars under all his restaurants. Go eat some more dick.
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>Italian comments

>implying pizza originated in italy
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>>702553074
ramsey is a good chef though
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Would you rather eat a sloppy, undercooked pizza? or eat a girl eating a corn dog?
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>>702552320
>business is failing
>nobody likes the food except the cook
>he tells everybody else to start liking his shit food so he can stay in business
don't work that way, paco
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>>702552030
For deep dish, it doesn't matter where you put the sauce.
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>>702553612
>or eat a girl
>a girl

Canabilism
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>>702553840
yeah
that's why it's a choice between two gross things. eating a stanky 21 year old slut eating a corn dog, or a shitty pizza
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>>702549876
read it again shithead
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>>702553473
true, but that doesn't change the fact that he makes his living being an asshole and acting like he has superior taste
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>>702553473
If you say so, I've never tried his cooking, america needs reality television "stars" so there's that
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>>702553840
>Canabilism

Is that what dyslexic stoner smoke?
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>>702553982
Okay, I did

"Who cares about grease in a pizza?"
so I answered him. There shouldn't be grease in a pizza. I've never seen that much grease in a pizza. MAYBE a pan pizza, but they cook it in a buttered pan so it has a reason to be so fucking oily
you won't get a greasy pizza from a brick oven unless you fucked up. maybe you're using the wrong god damn cheese
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>>702554228
The whole point is he doesn't have superior taste, he just knows what people like and gives it to them. It's guys like Panteleone who think their food is "da bomb" and says everybody else is wrong, that his food is good, that you have to like it. Ramsay sees that people don't like it and instead wants to give them what they want, he doesn't demand they pay for what HE thinks is good
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>>702554252

Cheese is greasy you faggot.
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>>702553754
failing business? It received great reviews which is why I ate there, it didn't disappoint. You're the type that watches tv shows and believes all the garbage thrown at you.
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>>702554659
Eats at places based on whatr the general public thinks.
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>>702554921
And.. public opinion shouldn't matter? I use yelp actually and sometimes it's hit or miss but generally I trust reviews for most things, as all consumers should do.
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>>702552243
wtf I hate America now.
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>>702554530
as well as your mom.
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>>702555284
Not me, I just go wherever I want. I don't give a shit what anyone else thinks.
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>>702551088
Pepperoni has a 1:0 oil:meat ratio.
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>>702555485
yet you trust what gordon ramsay has to say.

lmao
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>>702551056
LMFAO !! Savage <3
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Papa John > Gordon Ramsay
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>>702555284
>as all consumers should do

fucking faggot millennials
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>>702549281
As far as that pizza goes, he is right on the money. Gross.
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Haha, I've actually been to Panteleones before. My brother lives right next to DU and we walked there maybe about a year ago. It was nothing special I remember. Tasted pretty generic to me, like Costco pizza, but at a way worse price. So many better options.

Fun fact: The very first Chipotle ever us around there.
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>>702549281
> continues to pull apart the food and make it look like shit

"this pizza looks like shit!"
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>>702555639
I never said I trust Gordon Ramsay, but that pizza is shit. Don't need Gordon Ramsay to tell me that. Too thick to be a good thin crust, not thick enough to be a good deep dish.
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>>702549281
I don't mind Pizza being a bit greasy but what Gordon had in front of him was fucking nasty. It was so greasy the cheese fell right off upon lifting a slice, no resistance whatsoever. Reminds me of this shit-tier pizza place by my old apartment.
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>>702549281
That pizza looks good as fuck
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>>702555284
Wow, what a faggot.
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>>702556104
It's television I can make even the most 5 star restaurant food look disgusting if I poke and prod it enough.
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just wait a godamn moment, are you guys arguing about the appearance? if it tastes good i dont give a shit what it looks like
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>>702556019
Pre or post Ramsay?

I live in Denver, always wanted to go there to try it out.
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>>702555284
i also think you sound like a faggot. since this is apparently the public opinion you have to live with being a faggot then.
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>>702549994
Don't cry about it.
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>>702550644
Nobody knows what you just said m8.
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>>702549281
Maybe Gordon Ramsay should concentrate on his own restaurants, many of which are bleeding money.
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>>702556899

that's why he does shows and commercials
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>>702556484

i guess you're missing the point..
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>>702556229
it was falling apart, covered in grease, and the dough was raw.

you beards dare question ramsay
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>>702551100
>Pizza should be
>New York style
>Or Chicago
>Pizza
>American style
Fuck off with your heartattack inducing, oil doused, cheesy dough. You're probably the same fuck who thinks a food made with fresh vegetables, dairy and dough should =/= unhealthy or it's done wrong.
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i make a better pizza at home
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>>702557050
Nah, I think you're the one that missed the point.
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>>702557107
>you beards dare challenge Ramsay

You mean the guy who has like 4 cheesy ass cliché restaurants in Las Vegas? That guy?
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>>702556516

Definetly pre Ramsay, I don't remember a single thing about him being mentioned and literally just learned about this now reading the thread. It's pretty easy to get to from I-25, or just take the light rail.
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>>702549689

who are you talking to?
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>>702556102
Kek my thoughts exactly. Although I imagine that that's p much an essential part of the show. Yanno blow the shittiness of the food way out of proportion so the endgame looks that much better.
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>>702557666
Fucking check em
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>>702557650
Yo momma muthafukka
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>>702556568
Zozzle
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>>702555284
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If Ramsay had his way, every pizza joint in the world would be serving fufu frizee olive oil tiny thin crust bullshit. Rule number 1 is know you audience. People have different tastes for pizza.
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>>702555569
Hey Maddox
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>>702549281
No, he's a troll.
Any pizza will look like shit if you purposefully deconstruct it. Plus it's a fucking sausage pizza, if you don't like greasy sausage then I don't like you.
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>>702557189
I'm saying pizza should have as thin a crust as possible, unless you want deep dish, then fucking have at it. But don't middle ground it. I hate pizza that's medium doughy crust. Stupid.

Personally don't like deep dish but don't get my clit in a knot over it, I just don't eat it.
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>>702549281

he's a professional chef what do you fucking think retard
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>>702549281
What i don't understand is taking business advice from a european when it comes to cooking in the US.

the average US costumer only know 3 things : sugar, salt, and fat.

They have been used to these 3 tastes for their whole life. If you want to have a successful business, you have to offer what they like. And they don't like the kind of food that Michelin Star chef offer.

Just imagine going to india, and trying to give advice to an indian restaurant...
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>>702558178
i love a fat greasy sausage. especially when it's attached to a qt trap
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>>702551100
you would know about sucking cock
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>>702557396
Cliche? In vegas?!!?!? NO FUCKING WAY! It's like someone thought that people who go to Vegas are just looking for silly gimmicks and shit straight out of hollywood movies.


Seriously though you're fucking dumb.
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>>702558365
You love it when I tongue your frenulum.
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>>702558333
because those are the three tastiest things
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>>702558110

Hi guys remember to like and subscribe :D:DD):D()D
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>>702550856
Too bad greasy hut only has pepsi products, lulz
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I'm gonna go out an a limb and say that Gordon is life. He is the alpha and omega. My rock, my muse....my very life. If you don't like it, then maybe you're a Belgian cabbage.
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>>702558052
Yea some like their dough so thick it ain't cooked through, with their cheese barely staying afloat on a torrent of grease, while some strange other people like pizza.
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>>702558468
Did you know that over 60 percent of the restaurants he's "saved" have actually gone out of business within 18 months of his departure? And yes, the 60% actually do stick to the regimen and everything he laid out for them to be successful. I don't dislike Gordon, I just think he's nowhere near as talented as so many think he is.
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>>702558565
An indian would argue that spice is the tastiest thing.

And japanese people would argue that it's raw fish, etc...
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>>702558792
Fucking lmao
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>>702558280
You talk like a fag and I've decided not to respond to your post.
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>>702558916
Japanese food is based af anon
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>>702558362
Seconded, but that's neither here nor there, whatever that means.
The point is Gordan Ramsay is just a byproduct of the wave of "mean brits" the plebians used to fawn over. Of couse he was going to hate the pizza, if he liked the pizza the peasants would revolt. He's just the Anne Robinson/Simon Cowell of food. If you value his opinion, you're retarded.
But yeah, shemale cock is great. i'd dump my gf without hesitation for a big fat tranny.
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>>702558792
i would shove my fist so far up ramsey's ass that i'd be able to make him talk like a puppet

that cunt needs his face smashed
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>>702558887
>over 60 percent

you have sauce on that statistic? I don't agree with your opinion, he's a food god as far as I'm concerned.
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>>702558280
> if you cant understand an email, dont answer
> do not answer the phone
> assume you are right, when in doubt
> sleep more. you will get more done
> no meetings
> suppress the urgent
> decide the outcome before starting
i cant tell if this pic is intentionally bullshit or just bullshit
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>>702559161
Look it up dude.
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>>702549876
Shut the fuck up and go back eating Domino's Pizza you americuck
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>>702559164
Lol
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>>702558887
>I just think he's nowhere near as talented as so many think he is.


he's surely is talented at having gastronomic restaurant that cater to a "fooding elite"

but is he talented at running a pizzeria whose customer are average american who has eaten nothing but bacon, cheese and pastry their whole life ?
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I admit that gordon ramsey knows what he is talking about, and that he is quite competent, but i don't care. He's rude. I would shatter his knees and force him to live out the rest of his life either in a wheel chair or with a grotesque limp.

Yeah, he'd still own restaurants and make TV shows, but he'd constantly be in the pain he causes everyone else.
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>>702558333

The other thing is location. Like I said earlier, it's close to DU (Denver University). A group of kids could go get a large pizza for about $5 - $6 a person. Yes, they could get Papa Johns or somrthing, but maybe they want to sit down at an actual restaurant and enjoy a meal. You saw how big that pizza was, that's a God send for a collegefag. If they switched to some "artisan" pizza with extravagant ingredients, that place would be gone by now.
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>>702559482
Le amerifat stereotype that'll show him XDDDD
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>>702558887
Did you know that the businesses he helps (100% of them) Are already failing and headed for bankruptcy? That's literally the premise of the show. There's no guarantee people will eat there after Ramsey leaves and it doesn't help that the place is guaranteed to be owned by someone with form for running a food establishment into the ground..
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>>702558280
tits or gtfo
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>>702549689
>Implying pizza is Italian
GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE
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I wouldn't enjoy the undercooked crust, but i love a greasy as fuck pizza. I want that thing DRIPPING with grease. I want to see puddles of grease on top of the pizza.
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>>702558865
You couldn't. He competes in IronMan's and you post on 4chan. He would make fun of you and call you a "Muppet" and we will all laugh.
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>>702559514
Ramsay may be a dick, but he's not going around assaulting people who offend him. Just thought I'd put that in perspective for you.
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>>702558998
Indian food is just as based you weaboo faggot get the fuck out of here dickriding anything with a hint of jap to it..
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>>702559514
He probably limps already. He was going to be a pro footballer until his knee got BTFO.
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>>702549876
Fag
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>>702559669
He promises that if they stick to his new menus, New procedural rules, what have you, that he basically guarantees they will have success. No matter how big of a hole they're in. Listen, as I stated before, I like the dude. He's just pretentious as all get out and I've heard that his culinary skills aren't near as based as he would want you to believe. Most (if not all) of his restaurants end up being run by the other chefs and sous chefs. However I do get the vibe that he really does genuinely try and help each and every restaurant that he visits on kitchen nightmares.
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>>702555284
I'm sorry but when the dough is fucking raw that's not pizza that's food poisoning. So enjoy eating your Salmonella filled shit.
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>>702560113
When did I say Indian food wasn't? Also I'm not a weeb, I just really love Japanese food. Sushi is my favorite shit on earth mang. Why so hostile anyway?
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>>702559637
i said "average american". Some american are educated when it comes to food and they can enjoy sophisticated food. But most aren't.

It's something that is true in most country. As i said, try bringing to India food without a ton of spice and watch how your business is doing...
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>>702549281
No, he gets paid to be an angry British person.
He's had complex delicacies and called them bland, eats porker properly cooked to medium-medium/well and calls it "raw" (because only low tier plebs think pork still needs to be fully cooked) has had prime cuts of medium-rare filet and called it "too chewy" which is fucking impossible if it indeed was prin grade filet, has the taste buds of an edgy teen and cares more about presentation than taste, which I kind of get, but a lot of people would rather have the world's best tasting pulled pork that looks like crap than one that's been airbrushed, glazed with cornstarch, and presented on fine china that tastes like stale bread.

I'm sure he gets a lot right, but from what I've watched of him the fact that flavor means practically nothing to him and he can call something like sharks fin soup "glorified sea water" disgusts me as an actual chef who spent actual time eating food from around the globe.
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>>702560322
>implying the pizza dough was really raw and not just something he said and made it look like

nice try tho. thanks for playing.
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>>702559955

He causes people pain, and i would make sure he suffers for it. If you want to cripple me for being a greater dick, that is your prerogative.
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>>702560413
>implying you know shit about what the average American is, or even what sophistication means
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>>702559514
Oh brave vigilante! Defender of the defenceless! please rescue the masses from the tyrant they unknowingly hate, rescue them from the pain they invite upon themselves when they ask him to save their failing business. Spare them from the torment they will unleash when they chose to tune in and watch his horrific abuse.
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>>702549281
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>>702560413
Well I actually love Indian food man. There's a lot of really good Indian dishes that aren't what everyone thinks they are (curry coated dry chicken, curry curry curry). I used to have a really good Indian meal at a restaurant in my hometown once a month, at least.
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>>702560553
He's on 4chan. It doesn't get any more sophisticated than that.
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>>702560719
Topkek
/argument
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>>702560643

*takes a curtsy*
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am i tthe only one that puts mayonaise on there americano pizza?
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>>702560715
There is good food in every country. What i'm talking about is that each country has it's culinary culture, and customer are used to certains taste.

I was citing india as an example because it's known that indian people are used to spicy meal ( as american are used to salt, fat and sugar)
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>>702560485
/thread
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>>702560387
>so hostile
Fucking summer. You probably think I'm being mean right now, too, don't you?
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>>702561135
I'm 26 mate. Btw, summer is over. Get a fucking calendar.
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>>702549689
Nobody cares dude. Your "true" Italian pizza is shit
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>>702561057
I see what you're saying mate. Fair enough.
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>>702561057
You're just as retarded as gordon ramsay, why don't you visit America first before assuming you know what American food tastes like.
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>>702551100
So true, you don't know dick about pizza- and all about dick if you disagree.
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>>702561318
It's still on January and there's nothing written on it.
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>>702561405
>why don't you visit America first before assuming you know what American food tastes like.

I don't want to die from obesity
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>>702561506
Wowzers lad.
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>>702559542
Papa Johns is shit pizza, they use ketchup mixed with spaghetti sauce.
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>>702558887
He's just loud and arrogant, good talker. That's what made him to the top. And ruthless. His own COOKS made his Michelin stars, not him. He's stare to judging their food and throwing tantrums if the meat is wrong color.

He is typical middle manager. Not completely talentless but there because he is loud.
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>>702561335
Having eaten Italian pizza and Chicago, New York in their respective places- they're all good. It's the shithole restarants, etc. that dont care about food prep.. that give any and all pizza a bad name.
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>>702561840
I wholeheartedly agree with this statement.
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>>702551100
chicago deep dish is a waste of tomatoes. if you want deep dish it should be like little ceasers only tasting better.
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How are you people getting so butthurt over a dish that's shitty in the first place
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>>702562000
I don't know remember what I was trying to write at the typo but the point came through regardless.
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>>702561660
>Yfw I'm a 26 yo neet weaboo.
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>>702549281
shit looks good tbh
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>>702562095
Just stop. There's no that doesn't like Pizza. The ones who claim they don't like it are just trying to seem different.
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>>702561057
>What i'm talking about is that each country has it's culinary culture, and customer are used to certains taste.

and gordon ramsay, like any good chef, does not limit himself to just western food.here's a video of him in an indian kitchen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCF225x1vLU

he's fully qualified to critique american chefs and any other chef of a nation which he is familar with the cuisine.
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>>702562175
I'm 26 as well.

>feelsbadman.prizza
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>>702549689

you don't need to be boy-fucking roman priest to know what shit food looks like.
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>>702549603
the thing is the pizza is so greasy it literally falls apart. pizza usually doesnt do that m8
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>>702562017

Bullshit, and any Chicago faggot who wants to argue that their shitty "pizza" isn't actually a bread bowl filled with crappy marinara can go fuck themselves sideways.
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>>702561840
>His own COOKS made his Michelin stars

you have no idea how it works. If a guy is talented enough to design meal worth a single Michelin Star, he's not gonna work for another guy for long.

I briefly dated a girl who was out of one of the best cuisine school ( Ferrandi in Paris), she was only 22 and she was already choosing where to work, and with whom
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>>702551100
>>702562017
>>702562747


Deep dish isnt even a pizza you retards. its a casserole.

idk what dumbass autist slaped the title of "pizza" on it, but calling it a pizza is furthest from the truth.
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>>702549603
I like grease in a pizza, but it shouldnt be pooling on the pizza when you press down on it. that one was way too greasy
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>>702562747
>bullshit and then you agree with me.
Not sure what you are trying to say now. I like my deep dish with normal amount of sauce as a thin crust and crunchy cheese on the sides.
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>>702561845
pizza in new york is the fucking best
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>>702562655
Any successful businessman will tell you this is normal if not actually better than normal.
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>>702558916
>And japanese people would argue that it's raw fish, etc...

idiots are wonderful, i hope your village values the entertainment you provide them with.

in the real world, people are different. my jap professor can't eat raw fish, my jap friend hates fermented naota beans, my vietnamese friend can't physically eat spicy things, i hate coconuts despite coming from a country that's has them on every corner.

why don't you try going through that rectangle shaped thing in your house, it's called a door and you can learn about the real fucking world instead of endlessly reposting shit you read on some website.
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>>702563309
Exactly. Good luck finding a chef who's never had a restaurant close. Failure is part of the industry.
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>>702563204

case in point
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>>702563322
i was talking about AVERAGE. I never said "every japanese like raw fish"

Like when you want to study what kind of food to offer to your customer, you have to look at what's popular.
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>>702563309
It's certainly far better than the industry average, but most of his places are in trouble. He spread himself far too thin. Calling him "chef" is a bit generous at this point. He's just another asshole tv celebrity.
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>>702563309
gordons food is literal shit tho if you actualy ate an his stupidly overpriced resteraunts. not only is it shit, but you get so little portions.

any chinese resteraunt is several times better for your money purely because of the portions they give you alone. gordon gives you a bayleaf , charges you several hundred $s, and calls it dinner.
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>Second most Michelin stars of any chef in the world, trained by Joel Robuchon, the man with the most Michelin stars in the world

That Pizza looked disgusting. If a pizza slice has shit sliding off it like that, then its got too much stuff on it. It had way too much cheese and sauce. And the dough was fucking raw on the inside.

I wouldn't look to /b/ for answers on catering OP, since a good 70% of them grew up on fucking ready meals and were lead to think that grease = king of flavour. These people are the dregs of society, and if anyone here thinks that that pizza ACTUALLY LOOKS GOOD, then they should seriously read a book, take a class on cooking and shut the fuck up.
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>>702563768
>i was talking about AVERAGE.

and people have DIFFERENT tastes/preferences.

in the US the average person consumes as much as 33 lb. of cheese, but that doesn't take into account people with lactose intolerance.

you're literally just spouting off stereotypical shit. do you even have a brain? or are you just a barely conscious flesh container for dank meems?
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>>702564352
what's the point of cooking good food if your customer are used grease ?

It's a business, you serve what your customer want to eat.
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>>702564589
Americans will eat anything tho as long as its not complete dog shit in flavor.
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>>702553612
eat out a girl tbqh pham
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>>702563931
>gordons food is literal shit tho if you actualy ate an his stupidly overpriced resteraunts. not only is it shit, but you get so little portions.

to be fair, gordon's restaurants are socially prestigious places to take a girl or have a business dinner. if you want substance over style, then yes, by all means the local chinese restaurant will give you cheap food. but it's apples to oranges comparison.

also, i've heard gordon's restaurant, at least the one in nyc where i live, has been slipping in quality because gordon cares too much about tv. do you know anything about that?
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>>702552320
>I'm from chicago and know what good pizza tastes like
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>>702564432
err mah gawd

you went 0-60 full retard in mere seconds.
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>>702563204
Which is why idiots in this thread look pretty stupid expecting the pizza to be a stiff hold in your hand typical slice of pizza instead of something you eat with a fork like it should be eaten. Only uneducated morons who don't anything about cooking would think it should be like a regular pizza.
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>>702553612

is dat some bbcd?
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>>702564589
>what's the point of cooking good food if your customer are used grease ?
>It's a business, you serve what your customer want to eat.

the point was that the restaurant was failing BECAUSE of the grease, the oil and everything else you idiot.

>>702565040
>fuggg he called me out!
>better call him a retard!

kys already
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>>702559779
Pizza IS italian...
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>>702564352

>Claims they have a sophisticated pallet
>Enticed by "exotic" adjectives on food
>Thinks a french sauce of grease, flour, butter, cream and stock isn't bad for you
>Says non-sensical shit like "This wine has legs!"
>Cuffs their jeans and wears shoes with no socks

I know your kind.
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>>702564915
if you need to take your gf to gordons resteraunt for dinner just to impress her and get in her fucking pants kill yourself ASAP for being such a beta faggot.

you mind aswell be dating a fucking top dollar prostitute at that point, and even then it will be cheaper.
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>>702555284
>I use yelp actually
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>>702553074
where do i start, Ramsey a man who owns multiple restaurants around the world, one of them being in the most expensive place in one of the most expensive and high class cities London, The guy also has 14 Michelin stars fucking 14... he clearly knows what the difference is between good food and bad food. and a simpleton basement dweller on 4chan saying otherwise isnt changing dog shit. you can have you opinion but when there is clear smack bang evidence that he clearly knows a thing or two about how food should be cooked and taste then keep em to yourself.
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>>702565261
Wasn't even my post you responded to buddy, but you literally couldn't have looked more retarded.

His point, his ONLY point, that you responded to, was that Japanese people (in general, not every single one of them) Would argue raw fish being tasty as fuck. And guess what? Sushi is a very fucking common dish in Japan. Raw fish is a staple. That's the average. At this stage you're not even arguing a point you're just disagreeing for the sake of it.

>People have DIFFERENT tastes preferences
And? who the fuck said they didn't, you sperglord? Are you saying averages don't exist? Are you saying that sushi isn't a very fucking popular dish in Japan because there are some slopes that don't like it?

Literal. Retard. Your damage control is also fucking shit. Try harder.
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>>702554235
and you will never probably have the privilege of trying it either unless you dont mind spending a arm and a leg for it.
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>>702551100
i sure do like me some 'go 'za
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>>702565110

the thing is, its more the fault of the retards who call it a pizza and sell it as such then it is the fault of the people who eat it thinking its a pizza.

you dont sell fish and call it chicken. dont do it with pizza. treat it and sell it as it should be, which is basically a bread bowled casserole.
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>>702565362
Wrong. Marco Polo introduced it to Italy from China.
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>>702564432
What the fuck is your problem? ...what he said is simple and logical.
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>>702557189
>should not equal unhealthy
>this double negative
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>>702565718
Errrr....no.
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>>702565662
but gordon ramsay is an pro, he's a michelin man, who would question his autority on pizza?
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If you're one of those people going "oh wtfs wrong with the grease", you've never had decent pizza. Either that or you're a 500-lb sack of shit
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>>702565852
>Should not

Find those two words in the post you referenced please.
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>>702565718

Actually Marco Polo brought it back from the Native American flatbread. It was a popular post game snack of what we now call water polo. Except back then they used several old corncobs tied together with bison sinew because it would float.
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>>702563931
restaurants like hes are not meant to be eaten by people who will order a mcdonald's then ask for a large. keep your fat panda paws away from actual quality food. Also you have clearly never eaten it since the one in Chelsea iv been too twice and my main course came to £35 quid so about 45-50 bucks? not to bad since you're eating in a place owned by one of the best chefs there is. its a place you go for a occasion or business not for you to go and undo your belt and go crazy. Class, learn a thing or two about it.
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>>702565424

the point i'm making is that you go to ramsey's restaurant for socializing over a small plate of food. whether someone actually enjoys the food is beside the point.

>>702565524
>His point, his ONLY point, that you responded to, was that Japanese people (in general, not every single one of them) Would argue raw fish being tasty as fuck.

sushi is a cultural icon, and actually fairly expensive in japan. people there actually prefer poultry over fish, typically chicken or pork. i would actually know because i did a survey among japanese international students while in china.

>Raw fish is a staple. That's the average. At this stage you're not even arguing a point you're just disagreeing for the sake of it.

sushi is expensive as fuck mate. if you want staple food, you could not choose a worse food. rice and noodles are the primary staple foods of not just japan but also east asia.

you probably think the dressed-up, psuedo-sushi shit like dragon rolls/crab rolls are sushi, but they're purely american inventions.
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>>702565718
I'm clearly high while reading this.
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>>702566390
You're probably right.
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>>702566382
this has to be a troll, im not gonna bite.

nice try tho guy.
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>>702566390
and the point im making is there are sveral better socialization restaurants that not only serve BETTER food, but offer it at cheaper prices.
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>>702549281
Usually, but not always. I mean the reality TV show is both scripted and heavily edited. His advice is sometimes but rarely wrong, but it is oven boiled down for television into some straight forward problem solution format rather than legitimate advice.

In the dining scene he almost always records a whole plethora of reactions to the food. He will say good things AND bad things when he isn't sure and overplays both side to give himself more to work with in the editing process so they can put together a better complete narrative.

In this particular example if you watch it closely he says almost nothing definitive when it focuses on his lips. This is to give him plenty of room to edit around later.

His actual reasoning why the pizza is too greasy and heavy is more complicated than simply "because it's not good". Restaurants are businesses, you have to maximize profit margins and repeat customers. People really might love a pizza like that, but there are other issues related to that.

1 They will be so full they won't return very soon.

2. It's not exactly a healthy lunch option it's a once in a while sort of thing.

3. Also it costs a lot in sheer ingredients to make a pizza that big.
a. Restaurants lose more money spending that much on ingredients.
b. Any additional cost put towards the cost of the pizza itself is suffered by customers who don't want to spend extra money on a pizza they can't eat.

That all said even if this was all true, it doesn't necessarily make it the primary issue. There could be any number of other problems he doesn't discuss here for the purposes of entertaining television. And that's assuming his primary interest is in actually helping the restaurants at all.

Basically Gordon Ramsay knows what he is talking about as well as anyone could. He makes mistakes from time to time, but he's pretty on the money usually. It's just that what you see in television is basically just assembled for television.
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>>702560485

I mean, he's right about the shark fin soup thing. Shark Fins are tasteless by themselves, the the flavor comes from other things.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_fin_soup
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>>702549281
He's a critically acclaimed chef, and world renowned as an excellent food critic, so. Uh. Yeah. He apparently does.
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>>702566963

maybe for poorfags like ourselves, but i don't think ramsay is catering towards our demographic.
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>>702561840
i actually think you might be alittle retarded, did you not hear yourself? he OWNS COOKS WHO HAVE THEIR OWN Michelin stars and yet they still work for Ramsey. i mean this statement i dont agree with but im point out what you said and how your tiny brain didn't think of what you said
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>>702566779
calling something bait cause you're speechless. nice.
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>>702567134

ya, he is catering towards retards. selling shit to retards is good business tactics i will admit.
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>>702566390
https://www.statsmonkey.com/table/20598-list-of-countries-by-fish-consumption-per-capita.php

Fish is popular in Japan.

Raw fish is seen as the "tastiest" because among the 32 restaurant in japan that has 2 or 3 star, 5 are dedicated to sushi.

Sushi is seen in japan, as one of the tastiest thing.
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>>702552243
>reality TV in other countries involves filming reality

lol sure thing, buddy
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>>702567433

see, now your going down in quality b8 m8
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>>702567448

You're missing the point. He said sushi is expensive and it's treated as a special occasion. Just because a list said fish is popular doesn't mean sushi specifically and not a cheaper variety, even fish cakes or something, that's more affordable. It's like reading a list that beef is popular in America and assuming filet mignon over ground round.
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>>702567448
>https://www.statsmonkey.com/table/20598-list-of-countries-by-fish-consumption-per-capita.php
>Fish is popular in Japan.

>an island nation is one the largest consumers of fish

no shit sherlock. but how much of that fish is eaten as sushi?

>Raw fish is seen as the "tastiest" because among the 32 restaurant in japan that has 2 or 3 star, 5 are dedicated to sushi.

yes, i'm sure basing an entire country's preference for what type of meat is most liked on 32 fucking restaurants is undeniable statistical proof. i'm also sure that japan being the country that made sushi it's cultural icon (because sushi does exist in china as soushi 寿司 and korea) has nothing to do with it as well.

>Sushi is seen in japan, as one of the tastiest thing.

you can argue that, but what about sushi being

>a staple food of the AVERAGE person

i guess that kind of slipped away from you.

fucking retard.
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>>702566382
Like the chain Wolfgang Puck's before them, at this point Gordon's restaurants are nothing more than slightly upscale Cheesecake Factory joints for people who fancy themselves to be "foodies." They aren't even remotely classy or creative.
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>>702567442
>ya, he is catering towards retards. selling shit to retards is good business tactics i will admit.

yes he's catering to socialites that have more money than they know how to spend.
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>>702568475
>>a staple food of the AVERAGE person

you are the one who are speaking about "staple food"
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>>702554228
he's just an asshole in hell's kitchen and kitchen nightmares, withouth mentioning the editing they use. i've started to watch his youtube channel recently and i think they use clips from 'the f word'. The point is, in those videos hes such a cool guy, and that format of hunting your own meal is cool asfuck
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>>702568795

then you're not this guy i'm arguing with

>>702563768

ergo, fuck off, adults are talking.
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>>702568965
the average japanese think that sushi is the tastiest food
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>>702568737

his resteraunt isnt even that expensive. its just the fact that its a waste of money in general lul.

you mind aswell throw $50 in the trash because thats exactly what you are doing if you go to his resteraunt.

$50 just to socilize, ffs go to a starbucks or something.
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>>702551100
or sbarro style!
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>>702566382
>my main course came to £35 quid so about 45-50 bucks

Gordon Ramsay at the Trianon ( which is the nearest restaurant of him from my place) as 2 menu : one is 150€ the other is 200€
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>>702569074
>the average japanese think that sushi is the tastiest food

yes, some random anon on a chinese comic forum who's likely never been to japan, much less ever talked with a japanese person face to face, knows what the average japanese person finds the most delicious food.

welp, guess i;m done here.
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>>702569074
The average Japanese is also an otaku, paedophile faggot. You can't trust the Japanese
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>>702549281
even if i dont like pizza... i would eat it tbh nothing wrong
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Top kek at all the food snobs in this thread. Faggots
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>>702569246
>mind aswell
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