are you kidding me? she wants to divorce you so you're going to throw a tantrum on /b/ by revealing all her secret pics? jesus christ why don't you just do what every decent person does and say 'fuck you then, bitch,' if she's even a bitch, and then just go find somebody else
>>702473676 yeah I'm very aware of where I am. the "probably not" is beyond the point. (the fact that there is any chance at all is still a problem).
the fact is this person already was betrayed by cheating but who knows the rest of their relationship. the point is, there's no fucking point in trusting anybody at all if people treat this as acceptable. it's exploitative, period. the person doing it is a piece of shit who is treating this person and their privacy like it has no meaning. how many more people will they do it to? already posted another person as well, apparently.
it undermines so much more than just this one person, but it undermines them too. it makes them an erotic subject without their consent. is this really so hard to understand? jesus
just like if you talk shit all day behind somebody's back and betray them in all sorts of ways they never know about, it's a shitty thing to do
this is even worse. it's their most intimate, private, trusting moments and this guy is flinging it all over the place for a bunch of sex-hungry cum dumpers to play with?
it's about the person doing the crime and what their intentions are and how they treat other people, not just about if the victim will find out. by that logic, raping someone with a rape drug so they never really know what happened is fine (which i'm sure many of the assholes here would agree to as well, again totally missing the fundamental point of the trust that is undermined and the sense of entitlement someone has to someone else's body and intimacy). have some fucking compassion for christs sake
>>702473676 and furthermore who gives a fuck if i know this person or not? does that somehow lessen her suffering and the disrespect being shown to her? it's completely irrelevant, that bullshit is just an excuse to do shitty things and not feel bad about it. as if the person is somehow not still just as much a person as you are, wtf.
>>702474172 the point is shit happens and when it does you cant go around telling others to smell the shit with you...some of us have adapted and shifted our perspective to our own and not what society says...do what you will
>>702474768 great so your perspectives are that it's fine to be compliant in treating other people like shit by joining in their public victimization (whether they are aware or not is again beyond the point, which I hope you can understand).
fuck society, I don't care what society says or not. it's about the single person and what is being done to THEM.
and when shit happens and everyone just lays back and acts like it's no big deal, that's how society turns INTO a fucking shit hole. it's only people TRYING to care, fighting for other people to be treated WELL, that anything happens. what you've said is nothing but a lazy fucking excuse.
your attitude is defeatist, apathetic, pessimism, very conveniently at someone else's expense while we're at it. of course, why not adapt, someone's nudity is being exposed and I get to masturbate to it rather than challenging myself morally, thus contributing further to this shitty world. good job.
p.s. out of honest curiosity, what if it were your sister, mother, girlfriend, etc? what if they became aware and were hurt? would it -matter- more to you THEN?
>>702475157 point is you are the only one that thinks something is wrong. you only think that because of what society taught you. you then try to get others to fall in line because if they dont then why the fuck are you trying so fucking hard to be a good citizen? you censor yourself and you need others to do the same its fucking pathetic and sad.
>>702475723 I'm actually NOT the only one that thinks something is wrong, this thread just happens to be full of assholes that don't see why it's wrong to betray someone's trust so utterly.
really, are you sure it's because of what society taught me? or maybe it's because I understand what suffering and disrespect means, not because I've suffered so terribly (although I have experienced at least a few things to give me a better perspective), but because I have developed more empathy?
it's fucking easy to do what you want, when you want, how you want. but you know that creates? fucking misery. people being shit, people being unable to trust each other.
it's not fucking easy to try to actually care about these things, understand why they are wrong.
and fuck off anyway, the things I believe in and the things that interest me are way out of the scope of what society would considerable acceptable.
again I don't care about what society says or does not say. I care about fucking compassion for other beings. it doesn't matter how much everyone thinks that exploiting someone is okay, the person that is exploited is still a victim. compassion, empathy, and respect are issues that -- yes -- they become entangled with societal norms or whatever. but they also exist independently of it to a large extent.
if you all were doing this in some third-world country where they still treat women like shit or something, it would be just as fucking wrong as it is here. and don't even try to bring in cultural relativism, there's a reason that some places are considered 'worse to live' than others -- because cultures that promote shitty behavior (like your little shitty subculture of treating women and their privacy like your personal plaything) are generally shitty places except for the assholes who get to benefit off the backs of their victims.
>>702475930 it will never happen because there will always be people like you that for some reason will never draw outside the lines. ying yang motherfucker destruction creation stop trying to fix the world its fine and when its not we will all know.
>>702476693 dunno if you're talking to me (the person arguing a bunch) because that person wasn't me.
also all your shit is a bunch of totally cliche bullshit that you just said. anarchy is a self-destructing shithole anyway, groups will always form. and then you'll just have a bunch of backwards little societies
you can destroy and create in a positive way that doesn't have to so deliberately fuck other peoples' lives. there are other ways to turn things over and draw outside the lines and demand change than by .. what .. not actually demanding any change at all but just sitting back and adapting to a shitty culture that allows for anything?
the world is not fine at all, but it is getting better, statistically shown in many ways, only thanks to the efforts of people who actually try to care
>>702476353 congrats on ur empathy the world is so much better now that you can get upset for other people. >>it's not fucking easy to try to actually care about these things you make my point..its not easy being a good person it takes effort and if you put in that effort it pisses you off that others wont and they get to do things you will only dream of..its sad
>>702476353 /b/ro, you're wasting your time. /b/ is fucked and filled with fucked people that don't really care, a lot of them are American aswell, which simply raises the chances of them being retarded like op. Just accept the fact that our world is doomed to end by our own hands in many different ways. Sincerely , White Knight Anon.
yeah, people getting upset for other people when they see bullshit like this is, again, how things get changed. i know i won't change much arguing on a thread but i don't have other viable options right this second and maybe a few people on the fence will stop being douches.
" pisses you off that others wont and they get to do things you will only dream of..its sad"
it's not some fucking weird jealousy shit like you're making it out to be. i don't need to dream of exploiting other people and making them feel like shit, and if I need to dream about it, there are always other outlets.
I'm fucking angry that someone is being exploited. it has nothing to do with me caring about other people and their sense of effort, that's an incidental factor. if they wanted to just ignore the problem completely, that would certainly be more acceptable than people actively putting effort into continuing someone's exploitation. I fucking CARE ABOUT THE PERSON BEING EXPLOITED PERIOD, enough so that I'm going to stand up for them even if nobody else is decent enough to understand why what they're doing isn't okay. I mean jesus how fucking pathetic is it to have such an underdeveloped sense of respect? that's like the shit you'd expect from some infantile child that doesn't understand yet that their actions have consequences and that other people also matter.
would you care if it were your sister or mother or daughter, out of curiosity? if they found out and were terribly hurt by it, would you care? what does it take to grow some fucking empathy?
>>702478592 don't give a fuck about how my neighbor feels. my neighbor doesn't have to be a good person for me to be a good person.
you're right, I don't care about everyone all the time, I don't have it in me to stretch myself that thin. I'm also a shitty person plenty of the time. I'm trying to be better -- not for the sake of "society" but for the sake of creating something good for the people who interact with me, as well as for myself. it does end up benefiting society to have people behave this way. guess what society is made of? individuals. so guess what a happy society actually means? happy individuals. obviously no society is perfect. but you can't start anywhere but understanding that compassion for how others are treated is the first step.
But it's not hard at all to see someone's private pictures posted and feel something -- there's an actual PERSON for you, much easier to relate to than statistics and abstractions. how is this hard to understand, seriously. not only was this woman cheated on, but then the guy publicizes her private information so everyone can spy on her as well? shit man.
if someone set up a secret peephole in your house or apartment and spied on you naked every day, would that be ok? no, it's a giant violation of privacy and trust and pushes everyone further into feeling like they have to be afraid of the people around them. that's obviously not a good result.
this shit sends me into a fucking rage to be honest, so yes I really care that hard.
i've still yet to hear an answer to "would you care if it were your sister, daughter, mother, etc? what if they found out?"
>>702478592 and p.s. to everyone who thinks otherwise, yes I also understand that maybe she was a shitty wife too or whatever. but this guy's flagrant attitude and how readily he posts the girl he cheated with too, makes some indications about him, let's be honest. we have more information on his shittiness than on hers, here
>>702479684 fuck off, i reported the shit out of all his posts for illegal content anyway, since it's basically illegal invasion of privacy. so hopefully that actually mattered, which it probably didn't. just leave
>>702479837 yes yes i know, it's not like i'm not going to try to do other more useful things. but talking to people and at least trying to get people to reconsider things is just one small way to confront problems. so fuck off, I already understand all that. i'm not exactly in a place right now where i can do so much more right this second, but at least i can communicate what i see is wrong and why.
>>702479030 so if you dont care all the time for everyone and you are also a shitty person its kinda fucked up you can justify to yourself calling someone out for being shitty just because its not the type of shit you would do.
who cares about what op does stop trying to police a thread ..thats the whole point. its sad af
if someone has a secret peephole in my house I WOULDNT FUCKING KNOW and i dont watch secret gay porn so ill never bump into it who the fuck cares..i dont
just because something makes you angry does not mean its evidence of honesty. you are being manipulated by yourself to feel bad things for no reason at all. ie in no way at all is this helpful for you and yet you cant stop yourself because you are not in control of ur own fucking emotions. a victim for victims by victims
if my daughter sister mother gf wife grandma had someone post naked pics of them what the fuck should i do? i do nothing wtf who the fuck cares
>>702480029 no, it's not hypocritical, because when I'm a shitty person I can look back and be like "wow, that's shitty and i need to change it." criticism is ultimately welcome, and i care about being better.
not the same as people just being assholes and not even giving it a second thought.
moreover since when is it not allowed to point out faults, just because you also have faults?
"if someone has a secret peephole in my house I WOULDNT FUCKING KNOW" yeah, maybe you wouldn't find out. but yet these things come to light, eventually (shit just like that was in the goddamn news some months back). once again you miss the point that it's not just about YOU and if YOU know. it's about what it creates as a whole, especially if people treat exploitative behavior as something acceptable and gloss over it instead of trying to fight against it. maybe this woman won't know specifically, but you can be sure a ton of women (and guys) are aware that people do this kind of fucked up shit. so despite that a single victim might not be aware, the knowledge of the act itself still gets out and affects other people. not only that, but it is not likely to be just this one shitty behavior. if people accept and engage in this kind of crap happily, it implies they follow along similar trains in other ways, which obviously also has an effect.
it's not a fucking single digit situation, there are many more things going on here in the end. especially when you consider there are many more people doing this same shit without giving a fuck about how it might hurt whom (or, possibly, taking pleasure in hurting whoever)
"just because something makes you angry does not mean its evidence of honesty." yes, okay true. however, " to feel bad things for no reason at all." no, it's not for no reason. it is, once again, because I don't like people flagrantly treating other people like shit by doing these kinds of things. why? for all the reasons I've already described, although it should be fucking self-explanatory.
"what the fuck should i do?" yeah and if they did find out and cared? would you be just as cold and tell them to get over it, or would you grow some feelings and understand why they felt it was violating? or what if they simply found out you were taking part in that kind of thing and were offended and hurt by it, would you just tell them to fuck off too or make an actual effort to understand?
>>702480029 anyway fuck it, I guess I need to sleep. I'm sure I made no difference for anyone but hopefully that's not true.
I'm really very aware of the grey areas in these issues and i struggle with those things all the time. it's not simple to assign everything as a bad act or a good one. that would be stupid and oversimplifying.
however, posting naked pics without consent (even with grey areas considered) is just in general shitty, mean-hearted, childish bullshit that really doesn't need to happen and just contributes more to overall sadness and contempt and negativity, except again for the people benefiting from the exploitation of the victims. fuck that, why do we need more of that. it's just sadistic, selfish behavior, period.
So what do you white knights think of the situation where the wife cheats on the guy.
We had a moderate amount of stress years ago. Kid had a rough birth. Wife got bitchy and naggy and nothing was ever good enough. It got me down. The bitch threatened divorce in some crazy effort to fix me. Like the years of our marriage meant nothing. Like she wasn't even thinking about chopping out her son's father from the picture.
Anyway, I drag us to counseling, and generally try to make shit better for 4 years. Bitch just cheated on me with a known asshole that fucked her little sister right after we got married.
So yeah, I've been pretty severely wronged. Fuck this marriage. I'm out. But I've got a small mountain of porn of her.
Say what you will about privacy, and betrayal, and being "mean-hearted". I'm feeling pretty fucking betrayed and the bitch deserves it. What say you?
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