The best to ever exist in not even exaggerating he is the best rapper without a doubt
His verse on fetti is legendary him and carti need to do more songs
Yeah he invented trap music so that goes without a doubt he is the god father of modern hip hop
I said a rip rap rippity rap a rip rap rappity doo.
Wouldn't consider him a god tier rapper but he is a god tier musician in general
The only ones who are close to God-Tier are the ones who get gunned down
>implying they would go up if the afterlife exists
Odd future is the most hipster thing I can think of. I bet you walk around wearing ugly golf clothes going ofwgkta xD.
Youre no different than kids back in the day who listened to icp and dressed up in clown face wearing their tshirts or Eminem fans who came too school with white tshirts and blonde hair. Save yourself the embarrasement and start acting like a normal kid you faggot and stop clinging to bands because you lack a real personality
>No one can be a musician unless they play an actual instrument
this idea was outdated before it was even conceptualized, stop trying so hard and realize that making sounds is making music, regardless of the source.
Did one of your middle school friends tell you about 4chan and you decided too come over and show us how special and cool you are because you listen too stupid underground hipster noise?
>jokes on him I'm in highschool Xd
I hate faggots like this who can't just enjoy music but have to go around telling everyone about their music taste because they can't just like something they have too have reassurance that what they is cool and they band together like ants and obsess over noise
>implying producing a Kanye song is on the same level as producing something like pic related
>calling him a composer
I think you need to expand your music horizons.
>being so desperate to be noticed by women that you force yourself to like inane, shitty, repetitive rap music about killin niggaz and fucking dat dirty hoe bitch for da muny u made frum da heroin deal
That's just sad, mane ...
>calls him a composer
>kill yourself, he doesn't actually write music because he's a producer
[cognitive dissonance is an uncomfortable feeling caused by holding two conflicting ideas simultaneously]
>No one can be a musician unless they play an actual instrument
No, you can't be a musician if you just spout shitty "lyrics" over a shitty, generic beat.
Has nothing to do with musical education/background, race or music style. Same with those faggots like Skrillex who get on stage and then punch buttons on a machine that makes music for them. Why not credit the sound engineers who helped make the damn thing as musicians too?
Also, for the record, typically people who write songs but can't play an instrument?
They're called "songwriters" ...
No it doesn't. You have no point. You're completely changing the definition of music just so niggers can feel like they contribute. And the sad thing is, there are dumbasses like you brainwashed into thinking rap is real music.
Rugged Man is the king of underground east coast coast rap, no contest.
His bars are as great as his production is trash tho.
>NO YOU CANT BE AN ARTIST BECAUSE YOU JUST SIT THERE AND DRAW YOUR ART ON A DIGITAL TABLET EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE DRAWN ON PAPER THE TRADITIONAL WAY WAAAAAAHHH THIS ISNT ART I GET TO DECIDE WHAT IS ART AND WHAT IS NOT
>change the definition of music
no, youre just limiting it to this elitist group, the purpose of learning an instrument is to produce a specific sound, the sound is the music, not the instrument, so therefore any sound can be used to make music. the fact that youre discounting an entire genre of music as shit just shows that youre a fucking idiot who doesnt know what hes talking about
And this is where you lost the argument.
Beauty isn't in the eye of the beholder. It's a definition. A title even. Saying it's fine because it's fine to you isn't logical reasoning.
I'm OP and I was listening. To these guys since I was 11 loved all of their music especially the music they made with vinnie Paz and ILL BILL and necro, too bad they get no recognition they are very underground I'm fortunate enough to grow up in the east coast where I stared listening to their music at an early age.
Would you be suprised if I told you I did and he's shit? Good thing music is subjective and the only bad thing about rappers is that they pretend what they're doing is some big thing even though he's making noise for middle schoolers to listen to then obsess over in their cliques and feel cool
What are you even on about? I'm not discounting rap as music. It was never music. It will never be music. Music is beauty. Music takes skill. It's not just sound from any ol' instrument or tool. I never said it was.
Home Brew / @Peace / Average Rap Band / Max Marx
You know you have to be 18 to use /b/ right?
Please go back to Instagram and take your teenage comebacks with you
I get you lack a personality outside of anything that matters so you cling to nigger music and defend it against anyone who dare attack it but maybe try a little bit of subjectiveness next time you shit post
the poor bastard quit a steady income to start his shit show
I could give two shits and a fuck.
I bounce down Vernor in a popcorn clown truck.
Agreed. He's a pathetic homosapian though.
>not naming logic
>gets this butthurt over someone liking something he doesn't
>calls others underaged
assuming youre the guy who posted the war of the worlds album, says the guy who posted the war of the worlds album, a non-contemporary piece of music, and who has such a deeply vested interest in the music that he likes that he will discredit other music so as to somehow garner a greater sense of value for his own tastes. Seems to me like youre the one who needs a few more personality traits. I'm not even saying I dislike the war of the worlds album, I actually quite like it."the chances of anything coming from mars are a million to one they said, but still they come" my dad is actually friends with the lead Guitarist on many of the tracks
I can tell most of you don't know shit about rap and lyricism
Did you turn on caps lock, or did you hold shift down?
But that is a complete misunderstanding of my point.
If I take a piss on a canvas and declare it to be new art, does that now make it progressive, outsider-art? And does that put me in the same league as artists like Rembrandt, Van Gogh, Salvador Dali or the like? If so, you would probably get a kick out of those feminist "artists" who crack paint-filled eggs in their vagina and splat it on a canvas. Who are you to say a menstural blood "painting" isn't art?
Kanye has as much musical talent as Andy Warhol had artistic talent, and the works of both are mundane as hell to the senses.
But here's the rub, anon: Why should I donate any of my time to listen to some self-absorbed celebrity who does make generic music (yes, it is generic) with stupid lyrics that are "sung" via complete auto-tune when I could listen to pretty much anything else? And honestly, that goes for most of the music being pumped out these days.
And it has nothing to do with him being black, either. There are plenty of black musicians (actual musicians) who are actually talented and actually write music, not inane, rambling shit.
Or, at least they used to before talentless hacks like him found out they could get sickenly rich by rapping asinine lyrics over a beat ...
Good question because I've been wondering other people's opinion on the rapper I'm bringing up here right now. Definitely not hood, but the shit he rhymes about, the humor, and reality combined- he's good. No doubt about it. Anyone else jam the jewboy Lil Dicky? Started his whole career with batmitzvah money and a MacBook.
If my wifi wasnt broken, id be listening to prima donna on repeat by now
But at least I got this
I don't like any music
Because little fags like you ruined it because it's all they ever talk about which back to my original statement little sperglet middle schoolers have an identity crisis so they cling too music to give themselves some sense of purpose and it's all they ever talk about because they don't know how to shut the fuck up and just enjoy something. You're almost as bad as hipsters
This guy is a lyrical genius and has a great voice. Too bad he isn't making any more music.
how could you forget about my mans ruben slikk
speaking of vapid and stupid statements, "difference between kanyes music and any other rapper", catarogising an entire genre as generic, whats your evidence? do you actually listen to rap songs and hear no difference between them? are your ears broken. And because i know you'll ask again like the stupid faggot you are, one thing kanye does and pretty much pioneered is his use of vocals as instrumentals
If u think he is over rated slow down his old music. Listen to individual lyrics( or look em up and read em) The word play+ the storytelling and flow makes him better than most. Listen to the young sinatra album.
Thanks for letting us know what kind of person you are have a nice life eh?
Well that was opinionated and stupid. All rap music is the same they talk about fucking bitches and doing drugs over beats that all sound the same. I've been listening to all types of music since you were a sperm cell in your dads ball sack. And if you think Kanye pioneered using vocals then your fucking ignorant and stupid and should go back to YouTube
>complaining about auto-tune
>thats it, this has got to be bait, i cant believe anyone is actually this stupid
How though? You know, it's funny, there was once a time when to get famous, rich and sucessful, there was even the tiniest amount of talent and effort required. Guess those days are long gone.
The thing about Autotune is that you can take literally anything, put it through auto-tune, and make a song out of it. There are channels where they take news clips, auto-tune it, and turn it into a song, but I doubt any of the non-singers they auto-tune can actually sing in key. I could record a fart, auto-tune it, put a sick beat behind it and make a song from it, does that make my asshole a great singer?
Because Kanye definitely is a self-absorbed asshole.
But please, refute all this, and tell me how I am wrong in clear, plain, understandable English. If you can.
He came out of jail as a totally diffirent person that shocked the world when he started rapping about Jesus and positivity when a year ago he was talking about doing Coke and robbing old ladies
I am doing gods work by trolling middle schoolers who are the real cancer.
He's an ok rapper for people getting into rap and their aren't a lot of people doing what he's doing, but I wouldn't call him a particularly good rapper. Especially whenever he tries to do anything remotely seriously.
are you suggesting that someone who was born with better vocal chords has more right to be an artist than someone who is a great composer? is that seriously what youre suggesting? auto tune is the same as any other tool, its how you use it that matters, not what it is. And before you say anything, i don't care if you don't like how kanye uses it, the thing i have a problem with is you categorizing anything with auto-tune as somehow inferior
Music is subjective, and I say it's fucking awful but what's not subjective is the lyrics and I'm telling you about 90% of Kanyes music is generic hipster trash that talks about one or more of these things
>how rich and famous he is
>how hard he is
I understand how hard middle school can be so ill let it pass how hard you have to try and defend terrible noise
I've never met anyone else who listens to them
You clearly don't know what subjectiveness is so ill explain, its something based off opinions. You can't measure it, like music you can think the boring generic beats that rap uses is good and that's fine because it's your feeling towards the subject but the things rappers say can be measured and are objective. And rappers say the same shit generally speaking
He fucking sounds like he's having a seizure in every song.
>I was a dark, dumb student
No hooky rookie day trippin' on visions of chickens that look like R. Crumb drew 'em
They grew 'em in a royal dirt of Suffolk county's flooring with the blood of an alcoholic clergyman in his forearms
Come the fuck on
>are you suggesting that someone who was born with better vocal chords
Sorry, gonna have to cut you off right there.
Getting a good voice or sick instrument skills? It's a SKILL. A skill that must be HONED and PRACTICED.
And yes, someone who has spent years and years, struggling to hone their talent and skills IS more deserving than some jackoff who, again, auto-tunes bullshit lyrics over a simple beat.
But sadly, it is quite obvious you have no regard nor care for talent at all.
How are you this fucking dense?
Really, stop and re-read what you said....
firstly, youre fucking dumb, secondly, while having a good voice is a skill, its not somethign everyone can learn you fuckwit. I could do the most intensive and effective vocal works available for as long as possible and I would still sound shit. And art isnt about skill you fucking man child, it can incorporate skill, but its about expression. Thats why Mozarts first chair violinist isnt remembered over Mozart, because Mozart is the one who composed the music. No one gives a shit if the other guy was better at the violin than him
being 40 and saying rap is crap sucks but its true shit these days is not worth dogshit to party with
fuck all you kids who wont ever know what its like to record on cassette tape rap on college radio at odd hours of the night because its the only way to hear any of it at all ever ... party people in the house ¡¡SCREAM!! cmon , cmon
the rise of the skateboard-clothes wearing hipster-wigger.
kool g rap
round out my favorites, esoteric bein my top favorite.
but i honestly think r.a. is the best.
there was a group called bound by honour with big john and the trademark on production, that was pretty good too but they didn't take it any farther than one full length.
beastie boys and decent, Rev. Run slayed some bars, same with pac due to his delivery.
mc chris had a couple really good releases but then just seemed to fall off.
>generally reveared as the greatest lyricist of all time
the issue is del put out 1 amazing album, basically THE hip hop album. But hasn't done shit since.
event 2 was mediocre at best and his solo stuff was always shit
aw yeah man.
Every track from them is fire.Can listen to them all day!
>firstly, youre fucking dumb
Takes one to know one?
>secondly, while having a good voice is a skill, its not somethign everyone can learn you fuckwit.
Then maybe music isn't cut out for them? There's plenty other professions to get into.
We have way to many fucking no-talent musicians as it is.
> I could do the most intensive and effective vocal works available for as long as possible and I would still sound shit.
Just run it through a machine, put a sleazy music video behind it, throw in some mind-numbing lyrics and bam, music contract guaranteed.
>And art isnt about skill you fucking man child, it can incorporate skill, but its about expression.
Oo, going really heavy on the personal insults, are we? I sense a little bit of projection in there.
And again, I can vomit on a canvas and call it art, who are you to tell me it's not?
>Thats why Mozarts first chair violinist isnt remembered over Mozart, because Mozart is the one who composed the music.
Maybe that's because Mozart was a genius child-prodigy with an unnatural understanding of music at an early age ... and the first chair violinist was, well, a first-chair violinist?
>No one gives a shit if the other guy was better at the violin than him
It doesn't sound like he was very good and wasn't nearly as creative and didn't really earn any reason to have his name engraved in history forever?
But in your desperate attempt to put me down, you still have failed to answer why, in a time where the music industry is a sea of mediocrity, why we should care about someone with 0 talent who is only famous and on the radio because machines exist that do all the hard work for you when I could listen to people who have actual talent? If I wanted to hear people who have to rely on computers to make their singing bearable, then I could just listen to you. :^)
This you fucking faggots
Slim Shady is a fuckin legend
hei , care este destul de bun
have a specific song you would recommend?
His ginormous ego does make for comedy gold though
You have to be fucking retarded to even consider trashing em
Have you never listened to anything from sslp/mmlp