ANYONE WHO OWNS A PIT BULL , I NEED SOME ADVICE.
I live with my gf (were 25) we dont have kids. But she wants some in the next 5 years or so.
Anyways I have been thinking of getting a pit bull for a couple years (we live in a shitty neighborhood in Toledo lol). My gf is worried if we ever have kids that it would be dangerous to have a pit bull around I told her that it was a myth that pitbulls are more violent than other dogs and that if anything her and any kids we have would be safer with a pit bull around.
Fast forward a couple weeks she finally says ok. I tell a coworker I am getting a pitbull. He says "pitbulls are the niggers of the dog world" he sent me this link.
I looked at 2015 holy fuck balls pitbulls are responsible for well over half of all dog attacks /fatatlities in the US.
Now I dont know what the fuck to do. are pitbulls really that violent I heard they were very loyal?
Any advice appreciated
this is from the link just the first few entries
all pitbulls basically
Get one as a pup and don't be a twat to it, they are cracking pets but if you start abusing it, it will eventually turn on you and be the nasty b'stard that you read about, those pitballs are abused to be nasty fuckers and are used because pitbulls are ideal for fighting but it's like any animal/human, bring them up in a nice environment and they'll be nice.
How are my priorities fucked? I would be getting it for mostly security reasons. We live in a neighborhood that has its share of Break and enters.
I would treat it well. I have never abused an animal in my life.
owned and trainde pit bulls for years. they are naturally aggressive and good at fighting.
BUT they are still dog and smart ones at that.
dont get one if youre going to be a lazy nigger and not train it and keep it obedient. 90% of the problem is that people breed them and train them to fight and they get lose sometime and the other 10% is lazy fuckers who treat them like cats. it needs attention and a social hierarchy and to be punished when it fucks up.
I've got a pitbull. Had her since she was 8 weeks. Always treated her well, but you do need to be firm. They are stubborn dogs so you need to assert to them who the boss is. That being said, I've never hit her or anything like that. Just be strong willed. I believe that she may have a predisposed element to their personality that would allow them all to be vicious if needed. (Think rotties, used in ww2 and now house pets.) But as long as you treat it right it will love you like nothing else on this earth will.
They can get bored easily so do need a lot of exercise, especially to help build their muscle as a full grown dog. So I run mine a lot. Also have plenty of items available to chew.
Pitbulls kill more people than assault rifles.
You know how people get old and senile. Dogs can change as they age. I wouldn't want a dog that's going to randomly kill someone. You're never going to get insurance on a house or apartment that covers dog attacks.
damnnnn pitbulls are evil
pits are like any other dog type. some are cool and others are aggressive. I own two pits who wouldn't hurt a fly, unless that fly messed with their owner.
Now, the only thing that makes pits more dangerous than other dogs is that they can lock their jaws. This can only be learned at a young age. So if you get a pit as a pup, you can train it not to lock it's jaw.
Also, if you don't beat on your dog and love him, they will most likely turn out well.
The real danger is if you don't know how to handle a pit bull they're prone to snapping with very little apparent warning. They aren't bad dogs, they just become dangerous & unpredictible when abused.
If you're asking /b/ for advice, you're probably the kind of person who'll unknowingly do something wrong and make it dangerous.
White Trash breeding programs and trash human beings are the cause for fighting of these dogs.
Pits are nanny dogs. They are protective and love children and are the biggest sissy dogs in the world.
Go to your APL and take one for a walk, watch them laugh their ass off when you hide in a corner because your scurred of the town sissy dog.
I laugh my ass off when people hide when I'm walking my pits. They might as well run away from an abandoned handgun laying in the middle of the street.
PS. Your on 4chan asking about dog breeds. Agreed. You shouldn't breed. We don't want to hear about your child's problems either
the dog will be just as dangerous as the kids you raise if you're a fucking idiot, there is no problem with that breed if you raise them with love. they get a bad name because it's the niggers top choice to try and look cool by having a retarded dog that attacks for no reason.
plain and simple, i could train a poodle to attack everything that moved if i had the time to train it so. had a pit for 14 years before she shit the bed and the pup never bit or even growled at anyone.
Pic related.all pitbull owners i've ever met. You need to off yourself for the gene pool.
>No type of dog has been found to have a mechanism that enables them to “lock” their top and bottom jaws together
The problem with pitbulls isn't that they're trained poorly. Poorly trained pits can be spotted a mile away, and if it was just the training then rotties and dobies would have just as high fatality stats (I have a doberman)
The problem with pits is that they have mental illness and can go schizo really easy.
They are the "niggers" of the dog world when they're trained poorly... thats true... but they're also the "middle class white male that randomly goes crazy and shoots up a school" of the dog world.
One minute they love you, then they have a mental breakdown and kill your kids. Most vets think it's because the breed was inbred too much by dogfighters who were too lazy to properly trace the bloodlines.
im not even going to share my opinion on the whole breed issue and whether they are predisposed/agressive/whatever
but what i wanted to add is that you need to realize that a lot of places will discriminate based on breed, insurance companies will deny coverage or charge a premium, and if your dog does injure someone you open yourself up to liability.
getting a dog for protect is a shit idea because its just as likely to bite a delivery man as a robber. just get a security system.
safest bet is to get a dog incapable of inflicting that kind of damage aka something with a smaller mouth
besides a small dog is a lot cleaner and easier to look after than a large one, consider this if you are going to have kids.
Pit Bulls aren't violent, they are just most commonly raised to be fighting dogs because of their muscle mass. If you raise any dog by beating them they're going to be killers. Raise them right and they will be like any other. Just get a German Shepard. Cooler anyway.
what are you talking about... are all lawyers like this?
he wants a dog for protection, he did not complain about cleaning the shit of the dog, neither is a dog with a smaller mouth gonna help him...
if you train your dog well, he won't be aggressive..
aggressive dogs are just the cause of lazy autist parents that cannot teach them anything..
I have a 15 year old pit/ shar pei mix, i've had him since he was a puppy. His dad was a prized fighting dog, from what i had heard prior to adopting him.
My dog has never really shown aggression towards other dogs, he doesn't usually care for them and doesn't acknowledge them if he doesn't recognize them or lives with them ( he's currently living with a 3 year old husky and a 5 year old kind of sheep dog mix)
He's been in a couple of fights, but only because the other dog was aggressive and came towards my dog, so basically only fought to defend himself.
As for people, he enjoys attention. he really likes when femanons pet him. I've never had an issue with him being aggressive towards an people. except for black people, my dog is racist and growls at black people for some odd reason.
and as for family, well, like i said, I've had him since he was a pupper and he's basically on doggy hospice. He's a very loyal and protective, but was never aggressive. He's lived a long life.
like other anons said, just train your dog right and don't be an asshole to him and you wont have a problem
If you raise them right and not treat them like they're your kids they're great dogs. If you don't know how to or want to put effort in a dog get a lab. They're hyper but generally are not aggressive and they're very loyal. Ps you're a faggot
Both my parents owned a pitbull before I was born and it was my bestfriend since I was a baby. I rided him like he was a horse when I was really young and I can't recall a time when he's even growled at me. Granted, they got him as a baby and never fought him or abused him. If you do decide to get one and you know there will be a baby in the house make sure he isn't inbred or has been previously abused or fought. After my old one died I got I new one and he seems to be very hyper compared to the last one I had. So, another thing to do would be to train him and make sure he's very mellow around humans. Goodluck! :)
>not taking the bait
>can't help but reply
nope. i even wrestle with them pretty intensely and they put their mouths around my arms and shit but never ever bite down. like you dont have to be a dog expert to keep a tame one just spend time with it and train it.
Pitbulls are fucking crazy. Doesnt matter if raised from a puppy right or not. Family friend owned one, had it since it was a puppy, always kind to it, trained it well and it seemed like a well tempered dog. Out of fucking nowhere it attacked him and he lost a couple fingers. If you want something that's nit batshit crazy but still has a reputation as a guard dog, go with a rottweiler as long as you can put in the time/money/effort to properly train it
bullshit, your friend was doing something he didn't want you to know about.
either that or you're making up a story so it seems like your life is less boring than it really is.
now go take you anecdotal evidence and die in a fire.
your comment makes no sense, i understand that the stereotype perpetuated here is that "niggers" get pit bulls for protection... so how does my opposing the idea make me a "nigger?"
a smaller dog is incapable of overwhelming a person the way a 50 pound muscular pit bull is. it is much easier to control.
i know he didnt complain about cleaning up after it dipshit, im just raising another issue. my friends had a baby about a year ago and they are going crazy taking care of the kid, and taking care of their small dog. a big dog makes a lot more mess. i have a fucking basset hound and he sheds like a beast, hes just a bigger dog so there is more hair. a smaller short haired dog is simply cleaner. its relevant to his situation.
ok man youre cesar milan i get it. but i know way too many people who trained their dogs very well, and ended up getting bitten in the fucking face when they least expected it. the first thing anyone who trains animals will tell you is yes you can train them but theyre still animals. you cannot control them. and when you have a baby, you literally dont even want to take the chance.
but good job generalizing to all "lawyers" you mentally handicapped asswipe. i don't even know what being like "this" is? being smarter than you? more successful? better off? lol go fuck yourself
if you really want to make your family safer, think about the money you'd spend on the dog and use that to justify moving into a safer neighborhood man.
im not trying to be a dick here, youre allowed to have things that you want, and im sure you take good care of your family. im just raising some points to help you think about it from different angles.
Speaking from my own experience. When my son was 4 months old I got a pit bull. They have grown up together and are best friends. My pit was very hyper for the first couple years of his life and thus a hassle. However, he has never shown an aggression toward anyone. I do fear though because I know if he feels like my son is in danger he will kill to protect him.
Didn't read any other replies, just wanted to put in my experiences.
Pitbulls are more likely to be aggressive than other breeds by nature. Yet, they're smart dogs, and when properly trained they will be very protective of you and your family. As far as I can tell they'll be great dogs, BUT ONLY WITH PROPER TRAINING. There's some breeds like labradors that will just be chill without much training, but pitbulls are not like those.
I think this is also one of the main reasons for pitbulls being mentioned often in those attack lists. Stupid cunts are attracted to the breed and together with their more aggressive nature this spells disaster.
The pitbulls I've known personally were all very loving dogs though. Honestly, if you want to get a reliable defense dog, just get a well bred rottweiler.
90% cat lover faggots and ghetto niggers in this gay ass thread. Not knowing anything about dogs. I had a pit for 12 years. Not a single mean bone in her body. Loved all other dogs and children and never had a fight.
Another thing to remember is dogs can sense fear and if you act all afraid and helpless they're going to be more likely to attack you. Just treat them like a normal dog and you'll be fine ffs.
different types of dogs where bred for a purpose, rounding up sheep, catching rats, hunting down wolfs...
and pitbulls where bred for fighting.
It's in their nature to chase things down and latch their jaws round it.
However you can train dogs, for instance to chase frisbees instead of people.
I train German Shepherds, they too get a bad name. Because people get them, then don't bother to train them and/or actively encourage them to fight.
get one if you're going to put in the effort,
no really it's a lot of effort. if you're lasy get a more docile breed
They're like any other dog. Treat them like shit and they'll grow up to be shit. Be a psycho around them and they'll be psycho too.
If your house is a relaxed environment (not full of niggers or crazy people yelling all the time) you'll be fine.
Most fatal attacks happen to be pitbulls because they happen to be strong as fuck. Other dogs are just as likely to be aggressive if treated incorrectly but no one cares because they're not pure muscle and don't have the huge biting force of a pitbull.
It'd be like being afraid of your son just because he weight lifts.
>I want a pit-bull but I don't think they'll be violent.
>I want a pit-bull so that it can maul intruders and robbers.
You're a fucking retarded hypocrite. Britbong here, pit-bulls are cunts and even in the past couple of years there have been news-worthy stories of this breed savaging people to death, with most reported cases being children.
Don't buy this dog. Don't reproduce.
If they are raised to fight then yes they are dangerous in fact any fully sized dog is. I used to install satellite TV when I was younger for about 3 years, never had a pit bull attack me, or even be aggressive towards me. Small dogs on the other hand Jesus christ
I meant that if a weight lifter decides to beat you to death he'll be much more successful than just a normal person. Doesn't mean that weight lifters are more violent than normal fat tards.
any reasonably bulky dog that attacks is immediately labelled a pitbull, that can skew the stats on attacks a bit. Chihuahua's are actually more likely to attack (Mostly because of a lack of proper training imo) but you dont hear about it because nobody dies from a chihuahua attack. At the end of the day the dogs are capable of doing serious damage, I treat my pit like a weapon, dont fuck with it and dont fuck up with it and you'll be fine.
And to echo an Amerifat poster further up the thread, here is the average Brit pit-bull owner.
Don't be that guy.
Figures that /b/ would have so many pit bull owners.
posts like these are all anecdotal evidence
they have no bearing on the discussion because everyone has their own experience which will vary. you could have 100 people saying "i have a pit and he never bit anyone" and it wouldnt mean anything because, yes, there ARE THOUSANDS of people with no problem. If even 1 out of 100 pit bulls attacked someone they would be ILLEGAL. The point is you don't want to risk being that 1 in 10,000 whose baby gets mauled in their bouncer by the family dog. And while proper training seems to reduce the likelihood of a problem, there are lots of instances of a dog attacking despite extensive training and socialization. Why is that relevant and not merely another anecdote? Because its a counterclaim to the assertion that proper training prevents attacks. If it did, then those attacks would have never happened. Thus, despite training, a dog may still attack.
its fucking logic and 4chan has always failed at it but whatever
im not saying dont get pit bulls, do whatever the fuck you want. but if your dog bites my kid i won't stop until you live under a fucking bridge.
Pitbulls aren't more violent. The issue is that they can cause more damage. Fucking jack russell shits and tiny dogs are more violent since no one cares as they cause no damage.
I have one full pit and one pit mix - get one as a puppy, socialize it, and train it. No problem.
Pitbulls are the best if you don't train them to be assholes. I've had two of them and they were the nicest dogs I've ever had. They both died due to medical issues though, which is a byproduct of being purebred.
Get a German Shepard you fucking retard
Pit bulls are nigger dogs
adding on in case it wasn't clear - tiny dog bites aren't generally reported because they cause little damage. When a pit bites it'll fuck you up.
The difference is size and their massive fucking jaws. Just train them like a responsible owner and you'll be fine.
lurk moar and learn how to spot samefags, newfag
There's a difference between aggressive and protective.
My miniature schnauzer that acts like a guard dog, but would want to be picked up by an intruder once he's finished growling at him.
>better food makes a dog live forever
Pitbulls are dangerous and attack people because they are the most commonly trained to be feral ass watch dogs. Get a pup and train it to be a normal mother fucker and you're good. My buddy has several small children and several full size pitbulls. No issues have arisen.
Very violent dogs, they made my son spill cherrios.
those monsters need to be put down! what's next? HONEYNUT CHERRIOS?
Neighbours had one of these it got out a few times and mauled my other neighbours fox terrier,my cousin gave me some fox bait called 1080 killed it pretty quick,they got another about a mnth later and killed that one as well.
The y moved out soon after.
I still have some 1080 left if anyone wants it
Pitbull atks are because of shitty owners and not the dogs fault. I have lots of friends with pit bulls and some of them are professionally trained. The trained ones will patrol a house on command. Pretty cool when they do. Anyways, don't be a shitty owner and you won't have a shitty dog.
>...and once caught a German soldier by the seat of his pants, holding him there until American soldiers found him
I call massive bullshit on this. Either the Kraut was dead and they hyped it up to make their dog seem less retarded or this never happened.
Pitbulls commit most attacks because most pitbull owners raise them to attack shit. The important part is how they are treated when growing up. You want to get one as a puppy and raise it in a friendly environment and you won't have anything to worry about.
You know exactly what not to do now op.
Don't get a fucking pitbull.
Even perfectly trained they sometimes just randomly decide to bite someones face off.
For that matter don't have kids either.
World dosent need more people.
MINE JUST KILLED A COW. Pits are great dogs if you are great owners.
These dogs are wild animals. You shouldn't buy one unless you are willing to risk injury to yourself or other and it's as simple as that. If you are willing to take that risk than get one but if not than don't get one because you're gambling with these dogs and everybody in this threads knows it's true and that's why it exists in the first place. I'm not going to lie and say these dogs are always dangerous but you'd simply be ignorant to think with a little training they'd never hurt anybody. Think about it like owning a wild animal.
I know 5 people that have pits 3 of those pits are mad and can easily kill someone the 4th is trained and does exactly what the owner says and the 5th doesn't give a fuck about anything just sits in a corner. I strongly believe that it is the owners fault
OP is asking for advice from anyone that owns a pitbull. If you have no experience with them whatsoever and want to spew out shit that you have no idea about fine go ahead but OP is directing this at anyone who actually owns one. It's not the risk you're making it out to be if you make sure to not get an inbred pit, make sure it hasn't been previously fought or abused and do not abuse it yourself. It's not that by nature they're vicious creatures it's circumstantial otherwise so many people wouldn't have good experiences with them. I know that there are a lot of bad experiences but most of the time those are from people who either go on craigslist and pick up one they have no information on like a fucking idiot or abuse the poor animal themselves. They don't become monsters for no reason, no dog does.
Buying a dog to intimidate people is a fucking retarded concept. Just go to the gym and/or stop being such a faggot. If you can't do that then make enough money to go to a nicer neighbourhood. Although that might be difficult seeing as most pitbull owners are terminally unemployed.
There was a pit bull that lived on our street, one day when i was coming home from work I saw one of the neighbor kids (he was about 10 or so at the time) was playing in the field near our house with some of his friends. One of the black guys on our street owned a pit and would always have to hold it back anytime he would leave the house or if anyone knocked on his door (obviously not trained). Well conveniently on that day he didn't see his dog go in between his legs when he was leaving his house and went straight for the kid for some reason. He didn't get hurt to bad since another neighbor was able to get to the dog before too much damage was done to the kid. Dog was dragging that kid along for a bit though, kid needed some stitches on his leg but again wasn't too bad. I personally don't like pits because they seem like nigger dogs to me, violent and spontaneous.
>best dog in the world
That would be a Yorkie. My Yorkie is the best dog I've ever owned in my entire life. He's smart and obedient and barks when people knock on my door or make noises downstairs at night and he gets a lot of attention and he's cute and fluffy.
No it was the dirty hillbillies that owned the dog,the dogs are long dead and your beta cuck whining will not bring them back or stop me from doing it again
first intelligent post itt, definitive and well constructed.
You obviously don't know anything about Yorkie anon. They are simply the best dogs you can own. I honestly feel bad for you if your silly pride won't let you own one. My Yorkie is actually big for his breed. Every time I take him in to get a haircut they always compliment him on how big he is.
pitbulls are for niggers, drug dealers, crackheads etc. because they think their aggressive nature is either cool or makes them more intimidating. you very rarely see big guys with them it's usually the rake thin guys that have to make up for their own lack of intimidating qualities
Only hillbillies live next to other hillbillies...and/or niggers. So you're either a hillbilly or a nigger. Your choice.
>make up for their own lack of intimidating qualities
that's why i carry a gun at all times and make sure people know i have a gun, i lack any intimidating qualities. i usually leave my shirt tucked in my waist behind the gun so everyone sees it on my side, to intimidate them.
I own a pitbull and almost every 1 of 50 familys in the hood owns one and I never heard about an incident as with all the races it depends of the owner. The pitbulls are a very active animal you have to train with them physically and mentally because if some day they will fight with another dog (or attack a human), you have to be prepared/trained to separate them because they REALLY FIGHT TO DEATH.
My friend owns one. They're just about as chill as a Yorkie aka Yorker but they're not nearly as cute.
fun fact of the day: A Yorkie has never killed anybody.
This is what every asshole who owns a pitbull says. The problem is that children, old people, and the rest of the world are seen as rivals that need dominated even if your shitty dog understands that you are in charge and the second you lose sight of the son of a bitch is when he kills someone.
I´m glad you ask. Because, as I said I train with my pitbull every day it maints me fit, I run, ride on bicycle and practice orders and tricks with him. My pit can interact without problem with people and others pets, he never attack somebody, but in the case another dog or person attacks us, I have to be prepared to DO SOMETHING SMART. He is a very powerful animal I know, he bite me hard and he pull very hard ropes and big stuff. Also since he is a poppy he interact with the other 5 dogs I own and I let him interact with the others dogs on with owners in the street, is part of the daily training that he must be calm and friendly.
Pitbulls are territorial and can have quite a temper. This is why they MUST have a proper training, staring at a very early age. The breed has traditionally been used for dog fights and may have a more aggressive nature.
I own two pitbulls and an amstaff. One of the pits is very docile and friendly, especially around kids, the other one, is territorial and dominant. I trained both of them, but dogs are born with different degrees of temper (some are dominant, others are submissive) so it is very important to observe a pup and see their traits.
"I´m glad you ask. Because, as I said I train with my pitbull every day it maints me fit, I run, ride on bicycle and practice orders and tricks with him. My pit can interact without problem with people and others pets, he never attack somebody, but in the case another dog or person attacks us, I have to be prepared to DO SOMETHING SMART. He is a very powerful animal I know, he bite me hard and he pull very hard ropes and big stuff. Also since he is a poppy he interact with the other 5 dogs I own and I let him interact with the others dogs on with owners in the street, is part of the daily training that he must be calm and friendly."
All dogs can be violent.
The real problem is after the switch has been flipped to beserker mode on a pibble. As a former pibble owner that had a pibble go full beserker on another dog.
It is nearly impossible to get a pibble out of beserker mode.
Any other common dog breed can be made to stop its attack, pibbles no!!! It took only a couple of minutes for my pibble to ravage the other dog as well as severely bite 3 people. This happened in a garage so there were many weapons of opportunity. It took a sledghammer to the spine to get my pibble to stop. Had beserker mode been engaged elsewhere I fer the damage he would have caused.
>he bite me hard and he pull very hard ropes and big stuff
you training your dog to be a faggot?
I have a pit bull and a newborn. Nicest dog ever. Don't raise it like a shot head and that's that. People who want to have mean dogs get pits because they can also be mean. But they can also be nice.
My pitbull is sweet, docile, loves kids, lives in harmony with a chihuahua Deutschen mix, as well as a cat. Both dogs even eat out of the same bowl no problem. Every dog has their own personality, but the majority of their temperament depends on how you treat them.
Just get a German shepherd, dude. Well rounded and great, very loyal if treated well and respectfully, and protective.
I know you have your preferences, but if you're concerned about the lives of your loved ones, please reconsider.
Do not get one unless you don't value your safety, your girl's safety and so on. There's nothing cool about it, you will regret it one day if you continue with this decision.
They are the most unstable dogs among dogs. Don't listen to the hypocrite "pitbull lovers", they are gambling around with luck and should something bad happens to their loved ones they will be crying the loudest and put up all the drama in front of the news reporter how distraught they feel and shits.
A few people have pitbulls that are docile, but I wouldn't take the risk, especially with kids. They were breed for fighting and I've heard stories of pb's growing up in good homes that randomly have attack episodes
wouldnt do it OP, we had family friends who were pitbull breeders, really pro pitbull. They had about 8 dogs, went away to the shops came back and they had all killed each other. Literally a bloodbath and none of them survived, after that they just went back to retrivers. If i were you id get a german shepherd or rottweiler, much safer dogs and look way cooler