>pay for parking ticket, cinemark makes profit
>pay for movie ticket, cinemark makes profit
>pay for cola, cinemark makes profit
>pay for pop corn, cinemark makes profit
>watch loved ones get brutally murdered infront of your very eyes, get shot yourself, spend rest of life in wheelchair/going to therapy, cinemark makes profit
America in 2016 ladies and gentlemen.
>>702382900
(You)
but if you weren't aware, the people who are now being sued previously tried to sue the theater chain as if it was the theater's fault that some nutcase decided to barge in and shoot up the place
Yea... I don't believe suing the theater was a smart or correct action to take.
>>702383174
They could have made precautions, mass shootings weren't new in 2012
>greatest country on earth
>>702384418
That's not their responsibility they can't be held liable for something that wasn't their fault
>>702384418
what, a metal detector and armed guards in every theater, mall, grocery store, office building, school, parking lot, and apartment complex?
>>702385482
Simple as fuck.
Jesus Christ everyone just wants to blame people that had nothing to do whatever it is they're bitching about at that time.
>>702384418
Shut the fuck up faggot, what do you expect? Every fucking movie theater in America to have armed guards, strip searches, metal detectors, and K9's?
It's fucking terrible what happened to the deceased, and survivors. But the movie theater is certainly not at fault for what happened.
Everyone just wants to make money now a days, and the survivors who sued are simply retarded money grabbers.
>>702382900
Aaaaah, murrica, it's always someones fault, except for the person who actually committed the crime.
Fucking idiots, sure, sue the venue, real smart.
Jezus christ people..jezus christ..
>>702385569
>>702385683
If that's what it takes yes, or, now bare with me here because this is radical, ban guns, apparently a few other countries have done it with great success.
>>702382900
frivolous lawsuits deserve this treatment.
just like the lawsuit against lucky gunner.
>>702385381
correct, the system works.
>>702386035
how is the theater responsible for not having a gun ban or proper gun control laws?
>>702386035
>ban guns
Because criminals obey laws
>>702386035
gun bans dont affect criminals and there are already over 300 million guns (more that arnt accounted for) in circulation in the US. most wouldnt turn theirs in, me included.
that argument is not an option, period. Even australia only had a 15% compliance with their buyback program. Amazing how their country hasnt descended into chaos even with 85% of the guns youre so afraid of still out there with no governmental supervision.
>>702386035
Name 1 and show evidence that it's been successful. I'll wait.
>>702386035
I'm Canadian and we have firearms murders all of the time even though assault rifles are banned. America has 10 times the population as Canada.
If I were to calculate guns deaths to population, I think Canada and America would be fairly close.
>>702386935
australia and western europe have incredibly low murder and violence rates compared to the usa
>>702387391
Also don't have a 300 million population (not speaking of all EU combined).
>>702387391
They also have incredibly low nigger rates compared to the U.S
Can I sue a stop sign in the US for being an inconvenience?
>>702387544
China has more than 1 billion and no shootings
>>702382900
No, more like try to make shekels off a bullshit lawsuit (movie theaters should be designed to thwart crazed shooters by having emergency exits in every direction) have the judge call you out on your Jewish tricks and pay the other side's legal fees.
>>702387391
And in both countries they had less than a 20% turn in rate on guns when they were banned; so that has little to no effect on it.
Additionally; the rate of violence in both countries has gone up since they banned guns, not down.
>>702387544
do you not understand what "rate" is? are your that low IQ?
>>702387568
exactly. we're 60% white, incredibly wealthy, and our murder rate is on par with third world countries.
>>702386935
North Korea successfully banned guns from all citizens. Only police and the military can have them.
>>702382900
Nice news source that puts out fake news for clicks and views. You gigantic cuck
>>702386035
They could use plastic guns though. Every civilians needs to be strip searched every time they get in or out of a vehicle or a building.
>>702387391
No, they don't.
The violent crime rate in England is 20% higher than the United States, Australia's is about the same.
Your government tells you that America is super dangerous and that you're much safer to keep you complacent about the fact that they took away the people's capacity for armed rebellion against the state.
>>702387992
i'd rather get the shit beat out of me twice than shot once.
>>702388094
>successfully
ayyyy lmao
As someone who lives outside the US, this shit amuses me to no end.
Carry on
>>702382900
This is right. They can do this. It is not up to them to search every person unless they have security. They deserve this.
>>702388184
i'd rather have an increased assault/battery rate and a lower murder rate.
>>702387391
In 1997 guns were banned.
>>702388261
Funny we Americans are amused by Europe daily terrorist attacks that kill huge amounts of people and Europes corruption.
>>702388316
uk is not part of australia or western europe. english are simply a mob of violent hooligans.
>>702388497
Bulldogs....
>>702385659
There's nothing that could have been done really. Even if he didn't make it to the inside of the theater, he would have shot up the lobby. This guy went to the movies with the intent to shoot the place up.
>>702383174
this
>>702384418
you should be euthanized in a theater shooting
Sent from my Android phone
>>702386035
Faggot
>>702382900
While anons are busy playing gun debate everyone missed the point.
>don't start something you can't finish
These people were looking for an "easy win" and got dealt a shitty hand. I hope they get their wages garnished.
>>702388497
Australia's violent crime and robberies sky rocketed. Criminals knew they wouldn't get shot. Aussies are retarded.
>>702387080
Dude take half a second to google before posting.
>>702388919
Also, in all honesty, the lady who sued McDonald's because she was burned by the hot coffee, should be burned at the stake.
>>702388947
sorry dude, it's down.
>>702389178
nah dude she got pretty fucked up and all mcdonalds had to do to prevent teh terrible burns was decrease the temperature of their coffee by 10 degrees.
the poor old lady literally had her vulva and clitoris scorched off. it was really, really horrendous for something that took minimal effort on mcdonad's part.
>>702389254
Homicide =/= all violent crime
Your chart is irrelevant to his statement. Yes homicide is A violent crime, but there are many others.
>>702389422
>vulva and clitoris scorched off
Sounds pretty hot.
>>702386035
In Australia they banned guns and overall violent crime did go down. Mass shootings are nonexistent. Home invasion and robberies(by criminals with guns) especially against the elderly skyrocketed because the criminals knew people were unarmed. I'm not a fighter, and I have a wife and kids to protect. If someone comes into my house to hurt my family, I'm gonna put a fucking hole in their chest, such is my right as an American. If you wanna lay there while robbers rape your wife and daughter in front of you feel free faggot.
>>702389570
i just don't see it, dude.
http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/violent%20crime.html
>>702389178
I'm the anon you quoted, I think she should have attended one of those schools for high functioning retards that taught them how to live day to day. You know, the places that teach
>hot things are hot and will burn you
>>702389254
Violent Crimes in UK up since gun ban js'ing.
>>702389702
kek but seriously though
>>702389888
we have already dispensed with the uk. they are just a bunch of barbarians.
>>702389789
Sure criminals still have guns, thing is it's the criminals shooting other criminals with guns, hardly ever are there cases of an innocent person being targeted by a criminal with a firearm.
>>702382900
CAPITALISM WAS A MISTAKE
Long story short, I'm an American who believes in the bill of rights and am 100% prepared for the 2nd American Revolution. I only pray it takes place during my lifetime, and would be willing to bet it is sparked by the government trying to round up our firearms. Obviously, there are many other reasons we need a revolution, I just believe that will be the last straw.
>>702387885
>no shootings
yes they do. they have stabbings also. you just don't hear about it because guess what, no one fucking cares here.
they have to pay the cost of all the court fees you mong. they sued, under that states laws if you take someone to court, but the ruling is in their favor, then you have to pay their court costs. if you didno, then anyone richer than you could bankrupt you by simply taking you to court for stupid shit 24/7.
>>702389789
you don't need an ak, ar15, or semiautomatic pistol to save your husband
>>702390544
Too many of them damn chinks anyhow. They could use a few mass, mass shootings.
>>702382900
>stupid lawsuit did finally fail
>americans dont understand that even if ppl die you cant sue ppl who are not responsible
>>702386178
>the system works
That's what white slave owners said. I agree cinemas can't have protections against lunatics but this is a shit argument that can 'justify' anything.
>>702389789
>violent crimes go down
>robbery home invasion skyrockets
so a bunch of bullshit. just because they fuck the numbers by saying robbery and home invasion isn't a violent crime, therefore you're better off without guns.
>>702390803
great contribution. high IQ
>>702391102
home invasions and robberies went down, actually.
>>702391182
so he's a liar? because he said they sky rocketed.
>>702382900
it'd be interesting to see them sue the moneygrabbing ambulance chaser who persuaded them to file in the first place for fucking terrible legal advice
>>702391284
that or he's misinformed. violent crime is down in australia.
http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/violent%20crime.html
>>702389835
BUT THEY SKYROCKETED
THE INTERNETS SAID SO
>>702391406
no one is saying it didnt... that chart doesn't take home invasion into account, which he said sky rocketed.
robbery =/= home invasion. you can rob (mug) someone on the street, which is what they are most likely accounting for there.
>>702391406
http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp
>>702391587
home invasion typically either necessitates robbery or kidnapping. both are down.
i cannot find any statistics re. home invasions for australia, so violent crime stats are all we can work with.
>>702388453
Kinda how we see shool shootings in America.
They kinda should just a make a school shooting channel.
>>702391998
the article primarily cites to a single year: 1998. cherrypicking at its worst.
>>702388184
>citation needed
>>702384418
Maybe stop going to theaters then? Ww have this thing called movie piracy that allows you watch movies at home hours, days after they come out.
>>702391998
>snopes.com
>>702393885
It was at a Dark Knight movie anyway, so no one of value was lost
>>702386035
>ban guns
This just shows that liberals are more concerned with their own agenda than actually saving lives
>>702394736
Fuck off that movie was ace
>>702387391
Yeah, the ban totally worked
>>702389254
Protip, homicides are down in America too despite more guns
>>702382900
No, They don't. This will get thrown out of court faster than you can blink.
>>702395378
Shit tier ending though.
Cinemas don't make money from ticket sales also not really profit if it's paying legal fees plus you American fags will sue anyone and everything in fact this post about a cinema a mass shooter and a lawsuit is as American as racism
>>702390780
Joe Biden pls go
>>702389422
who would have thought that hot coffee might cause burns?
if she'd ordered an iced coffee and it burnt the shit out of her, i might have some sympathy, but stupid is as stupid does
>>702382900
Thank George Bush and the republicans.
>>702390780
Since when has need ever had anything to do with it?
And who are you to decide what people can and cannot own?
>>702382900
Well they tried to sue the theater because they thought it was the theaters fault that the shooting happened. The cinema tries to make deal with victims thats like $30k a person, with the treat that if they don't accept they will seek to regain court fees. Victims think that s not enough money. The judge ruled in favor of the cinema. The cinema is now trying to get the $700000 of court fees it had to pay.
I see nothing wrong with this.
>>702396746
Is your answer to everything to shoot it until it's dead? Because that was Oscar Pistorious's method of dealing with shit, and look where that got him.
>Sue a theater that isnt responsible for your safety when it comes to violence
I fucking shiggydiggy
>>702397113
My answer is to shoot anything that poses a threat to me.
And why do you bring up that faggot? He shot blindly through a door like an idiot without assessing the situation.
>>702397158
So I'm a taxi driver, and using your logic I'm not responsible for my customers safety, as both me and the cinema are offering a service and not goods,so I should just drive like a lunatic so I can get them out as fast as possible?
>>702397292
So what the fuck do you expect to do when you hear shit down stairs getting moved around? Shout down and ask them to stop or you'll get mad?
>>702397292
Oscar precieved reeva as a threat. He took action, he's innocent according to your logic.
>>702396573
this.
and the nra
>>702387391
aaaaahahahaahha not in the UK buddy. We have one of the highest violent crime rates in the civilised world. Our murder rate is lower because we're all so used to getting stabbed by underage chavs without being legally able to fight back we've developed a partial immunity to them.
>>702397000
>Initially, plaintiffs agreed to the $150,000 settlement deal, deciding that $30,000 should go to each of the three most severely injured survivors, with the remaining $60,000 split among the 38 plaintiffs. Among them were survivors who had suffered brain damage, paralysis or the loss of children.
Are you incapable of doing a quick google search you fucking retard faggot mongloid?
>>702397379
How is the movie theater to blame?
Did they exhibit any kind of negligence or reckless endangerment?
The shooter got into the theater by prying open the exit door that is unlocked for the people's safety in case of fires or other emergencies, and mandated by the government and common sense. What did the theater do that makes them responsible for an attack that could have happened anywhere?
>>702397379
Well would you, the taxi driver, be responsible if a guy with a gun shot your passengers while you were at a stop light?
>>702397526
>get line of sight on them
>"I'm armed and I will shoot. Get out of my house"
If they leave, so be it. If they say "Dad it's me!" say get back to bed.
If they advance or stay, shoot them until they stop moving.
>>702397672
Basic gun safety is know your target and what's beyond it, which he failed to do. I think he's an idiot and an irresponsible gun owner.
>>702397675
for the third time, the uk is full of barbarians and is an outlier.
>>702396746
when the guns that aren't needed are used to kill dozens of people at a time.
>>702396534
not to the extent that she experienced. lowering the temperature, which they have now done, eliminates second and third degree burns, which she experienced.
>>702397949
>when the guns that aren't needed are used to kill dozens of people at a time.
So pretty much all guns?
>carry two revolvers
>kill 12 people
>>702397736
Not that anon but do you seriously expect retard faggot mongoloid's to be able to do google searches?
>>702392445
>school shooting
>somehow a bad thing
lol
>shool
are you mentally disabled?
>>702382900
I'm calling BS because in civil court the loser pays both theirs and the winner's legal fees.
>>702396534
pic is the burns that the woman experienced because mcdonalds refused to turn down the temperature on their coffee dispensers. spilt coffee is an inevitability. third degree burns is entirely preventable.
>>702397736
Well shit aren't you quick to anger. I read the article a few days ago, I dont remember all the fuckin details. Regardless, they still took them to court and lost
>>702396534
>>702397949
>when the guns that aren't needed are used to kill dozens of people at a time.
Should a gun be banned if it has this capability but is used in less than 1% of gun violence and the overwhelming majority of the population who do own them use them responsibly and follow the laws?
>>702382900
Cinemark didn't shoot your faggot ass and has no obligation to protect you from being shot. Now pay up for being a turbokike.
>>702398073
find instances where that happened and compare to instances of ar15s.
>>702398291
I'm not positive, but i think its just that the loser can be made to pay the legal fees of the winner. And thats what this is
>>702398438
yes.
>>702397949
So guns that are used is very small amounts of crime should be banned?
Thanks for showing your agenda being more important than actually saving lives
>>702397379
No, as a taxi driver I would get my passenger to saftey by safely driving. A gun man coming and shooting my passenger is not within my responsibilities as a taxi driver.
>>702386628
>gun bans dont affect criminals
Yes they do. There is a reason why so few criminals in western Europe have firearms. The availability is really low and therefore prices extremely high making them unaffordable for you average street thug and punk.
>>702398546
Virginia Tech guy killed 30+ people using only handguns
And pic related
>>702398546
Handguns actually make up the majority of mass shootings (and overall gun crime). AR-15s and rifles in general are rarely used. Yes you can pop up some crazily over-sensationalized examples though.
>>702386395
This.
>>702398602
red herring. read what i previously posted. your reading comprehension is poor. low IQ
>>702388316
So why did the murder rate drop after the gun ban in the long run? According to gun nuts logic it should have increased even beyond that spike?
Also is there prove that the spike and the gun ban are related?
>>702397897
What If I as the taxi driver took a short cut through a well known dangerous area and my customer got shot, would that be at least partly my fault?
>>702398943
I believe you mentioned AR15s and rifles
>>702398599
So you're willing to ban something if it means saving a minuscule minority of the population and inconveniencing a overwhelming majority? I hope you are against the legalization of marijuana too then.
>>702384418
>>702382900
>>702399053
Why did it also drop in America despite having lots of guns?
>>702399059
What the fuck does this have to do with my questions?
>>702398736
So what is easier: Buying a gun and shooting up some people at the next mall or buying tons of fertilizer, racing fuel, renting a truck mixing all that shit together, building a time delayed fuse and driving that thing a few hundred miles?
>>702398736
He fired 200 rounds, and carried 200 more. Good luck managing that with a revolver.
>>702398866
mostly against criminals and gang violence, so who cares.
>>702398736
single instance out of many mass shootings. the only exception. pic related is a red herring since bombs are illegal and very rarely used. like five bombs in the past 25 years have killed people in the usa.
>>702399352
So you want to ban all modern firearms?
>>702399116
nobody is inconvenienced by an ar15 ban. red herring.
>>702399114
i never said anything about rifles in general.
>>702387080
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
kek
>>702399508
But why do you want to ban AR15s if they are used is so little crime?
>>702399482
high capacity magazine ban would be great.
>>702386628
Than explain why the us has around 300-500% more homicides per capita than the rest of the first world and why the bulk of it is in gun toting red states.
>>702399697
And at what capacity should they be banned?
>>702382900
Serves them right for adding to the problem of frivolous lawsuits and I hope this completely bankrupts their greedy crippled asses. I wish more people that see dollar signs through lawsuits would get rekt like this.
>>702399508
>nobody is inconvenienced by an ar15 ban.
>mostly against criminals and gang violence, so who cares.
Well now I know you're either retarded or just shitposting.
gg no re
>>702399749
This is literally all false
>>702399669
ar15s are not needed to protect your home or yourself on the street. a shotgun, a five round rifle, or a revolver is more than sufficient. ar15s with high capacity mags are purely for killing large amounts of people in a short amount of time.
basically, because there is little value to them other than gun fetishism. they're german goo girls tier.
>>702399482
Yes. It wouldn't affect my current ownership and would keep us safer from the autistic tards planning out their next school shooting.
>>702399358
>single instance out of many mass shootings. >the only exception.
>MFW the majority of mass shootings involved hanguns
>>702399799
6 rounds would be great.
>>702399863
how are you inconvenienced? go buy a deer rifle or a shotgun or a nugget or a revolver or a lever action or a .22 or a crossbow or a sniper rifle or a hatchet or a slingshot. you dont need a gun that can hold 30 bullets.
>>702399972
>>702399799
>>702399669
You guys are responding to bait. Just putting that out there.
>>702399235
I'm saying they didn't take at least basic precautions to prevent this atrocity, and at the end of the day, the only thing you need to stop a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun, right?
>>702400005
Why are they not needed? Who are you to decide what I or someone else "needs"?
>>702400072
>It wouldn't affect my current ownership
But it would affect mine, so you can fuck off with your little pipe dream.
>>702382900
I think we should start running some mental evaluation tests and sign a waiver that you won't use it to kill yourself with or you'll go to jail before they buy
>>702400178
yes that is what i said. and stop resorting to >mfw memes and 9/11 jokes. it looks both stupid and unamerican.
>mass majority involved handguns.
yea i already acknowledged that. and big deal. handgun deaths, mass shootings or not, are mass majority gang violence.
>>702400217
>6 rounds would be great
So 6 is super safe and acceptable, but 7 is super deadly and illegal?
Do you even realize how arbitrary and meaningless that is?
A magazine is literally a box with a spring in it, something that could be made easily in someone's garage with basic tools.
>you dont need a gun that can hold 30 bullets
Need has never been a factor in gun ownership, nor has hunting. You keep using that word when it has no merit.
>>702388196
>ayyyy lmao
I don't think you know what this means
>>702400299
>dat webm
You should maybe think about changing countries if things like that actually happen in your shithole.
>>702400603
Robberies are not exclusive to America
>>702400232
nah dude im dead serious.
>>702400299
i am not to decide. the government is. and i want them to pass a law curtailing ar15s and high capacity magazines.
>>702400283
>basic precautions
So what are these basic precautions? I agree if those people were armed someone could've stopped that faggot. Do you expect the theater should've had armed guards? That would be unusual and not having them wouldn't be seen as negligence by the "reasonable man " standard used in civil suits.
>>702390544
Not to mention the state controlled media, including the Internet. The outside world has little idea what happens there as with Best Korea.
>>702400689
>and i want them to pass a law curtailing ar15s and high capacity magazines
They did that for 10 years from 1994 to 2004 and it did nothing to lower crime rates or stop mass shootings. Columbine happened right in the heart of it.
You're probably too young to remember that.
>>702400579
it's not arbitary. i chose it because most revolvers hold six bullets, so it would not make revolvers illegal and would not unreasonably burden reasonable, nonfetishist gun owners.
>>702400217
>you dont need a gun that can hold 30 bullets.
Need is irrelevant. It is wrong to tell people they can't purchase a product because a small handful of people (out of millions) used said product irresponsibly.
>>702400603
Somalia isn't an intentional anarchy. It's a failed communist state that had high taxes, big gov't, regulations, and gun control.
>>702400603
>You should just pack up and run away if things are bad
Keep having this mentality anon; a true defeatist at heart. You're what make nations great.
>>702401015
>it would not make revolvers illegal and would not unreasonably burden reasonable, nonfetishist gun owners.
Yes it would. Semi auto handguns vastly outnumber revolvers in private citizens hands
>>702400905
high capacity mags were never flat out banned. in addition, there were exceptions to assault rifles and machineguns, etc. that were already in circulation in the general public.
>>702400487
>cognitive dissonance
>>702386035
HEY HOW WAS THAT RECENT KNIFE ATTACK IN JAPAN
19 DEAD YOU SAY
>>702401116
it's not wrong when there is a more reasonable alternative, i.e. low capacity rifles semiauto rifles, revolvers, lever actions, shotguns, etc.
>>702400487
>mass majority involved handguns.
yea i already acknowledged that. and big deal. handgun deaths, mass shootings or not, are mass majority gang violence.
So you don't actually give a shit about changing gun violence you just want to basically change something YOU don't like. Which is fallacious beyond all hell.
>>702398395
Yup, the stupid bitch was reminded that hot coffee is indeed hot. Her fault for being stupid and she should have had to pay McDonalds millions for blaming them for her stupidity.
>>702401252
>high capacity mags were never flat out banned
They were banned from being sold and manufactured
>there were exceptions to assault rifles and machineguns, etc. that were already in circulation in the general public
So you want to confiscate guns in private hands that you and your crony government arbitrarily deem unacceptable? I thought no one was coming for our guns, and that anyone who thought that was a paranoid lunatic?
>>702400217
>6 rounds would be great
>go buy a deer rifle or a nugget
Why is a 6 round Smith from the late 80's fine and a SMLE from the early 10's that can hold 10 not okay?
And yes, I need a gun that can hold 30 bullets in the rare event that some chucklefuck like you gets into power and tries to take my gun that holds 6. Eat shit, commie.
>>702401549
it doesn't need to be that hot.
>>702401451
So you don't actually give a shit about changing gun violence you just want to basically change something YOU don't like
i do not give a shit about gang violence. it is not "fallacious"
>>702398693
Maybe because all of western europe can fit inside one Canadian province, Where I can easily find an illegal firearm on the street.
>>702401757
>it doesn't need to be that hot
Water needs to be around 200F for proper flavor exaction of coffee you braindead moron
>>702401663
i would never take your gun that holds 6.
>>702401581
Not him but
>they were banned from being sold
No, that's just not true. All of the pre-ban mags were completely free to sell, they just costed like $90 instead of $10. Nevertheless, the AWB didn't work at all.
>>702401512
>So you don't actually give a shit about changing gun violence you just want to basically change something YOU don't like. Which is fallacious beyond all hell.
i do not give a shit about gang violence. it is not "fallacious"
>>702401909
But you would try to take my gun that holds 30 like the way it was designed.
Which is why I "need" it.
>>702400299
Gun violence in america is culture and sure removing the guns would stop the GUN violence, but you still have the culture.
So it would just change to illegal gun and other weapons. I doubt it would have much effect on the actual number of killings etc
One problem with these shootings is that everyone turns into a bystander. Someone walks into a room with x amount people and opens fire everyone just panics and dies. He stops to reload people keep panicking and dieing. After 5 reloads there are only a few people dead but hes almost out of ammo so perpetrator either kills himself or just walks out.
Suing won't do anything just want to say these are a shitshow.
>>702386395
Mother fucking exactly
>>702401909
I mean, you would if you convinced yourself it was too dangerous since you are already a fucking idiot, but whatever. Why would you take my gun that takes 7? Is that really a big difference?
Why not just limit it to 2 rounds? One for the robber/deer and another in case you miss? We don't want anybody having too many bullets, right?
>>702384418
fucking entitled faggot
>>702401900
it does not need to sit inside the coffee dispenser at 190 degrees, which is what it was at, though. a mere 10 degree change could've prevented the entire distgusting incident while keeping the same quality of coffee. you literally cannot drink coffee at 190 degrees anyways. mcdonalds was incredibly stupid to keep the coffee that hot.
>>702401757
Dumb bitch didn't need to be playing with that cup of known hot coffee in the car either, but she alone made the choice to do so and disregard the fact that hot coffee is indeed hot. Her choice. Her stupidity. Her fault.
>>702383174
Oh yeah, individual victims paying some ridiculous compensation is a much better alternative.
>>702402086
This is pretty true. Our violence rates are skewed towards the high side when compared with other developed countries. Truth is guns aren't leading to the violence but they are the preferred method. Another commonly ignored statistic is that most gun deaths and injuries are suicide or operator error not violence from person to person.
>>702399311
Well, I don't think you have to pass a background check to buy fertilizer, fuel, or rent a truck. You just need a driver's license and a credit card. It's also probably cheaper depending on how big of a bomb you want once you factor in the cost of the gun AND the ammunition.
>>702399697
>buy more low capacity mags and practice reloads
Also, 30 rounds is standard capacity, limp-dick.
>>702401442
How's milwaukee these days, nice place to visit?
>>702402056
i would take your magazines.
>>702402314
>I mean, you would if you convinced yourself it was too dangerous since you are already a fucking idiot, but whatever
no i would not
>Why would you take my gun that takes 7? Is that really a big difference?
no, but i have to set the boundary at some point. and i chose six. one in the chamber. and five in teh mag.
>Why not just limit it to 2 rounds? One for the robber/deer and another in case you miss?
two rounds is not enough. if you can't hit after six rounds you shouldn't be carrying.
>We don't want anybody having too many bullets, right?
right.
>>702382900
/b is Dead
>>702402493
>source: my ass
>>702402348
she did not choose to spill it on herself. accidents will always happen and cannot be repvented. scalding hot water is entirely preventable. we do not want to live in a society where companies can get away with hurting someone that badly and defend themselves by saying "dumb bitch deserved it." low IQ argument.
>>702402426
it's not ridiculous compensation.
it's the legal fees for the cinema that rightfully defended itself from this spurious lawsuit.
who should pay that? the taxpayer? or the faggots who brought the spurious lawsuit in the first place?
>>702402923
./Thread
>>702402493
>most gun deaths are user error.
You know I was using a knife chopping carrots without really concerntrating the other day, I've still got the plaster to prove it, but I suppose at least I didn't blow my entire fucking head off
>>702402706
>i would take your magazines
Which is why I need them to stop you and your friends from oppressing me
>no i would not
How do I know that? You already did it with anything over 6
>if you can't hit after six rounds you shouldn't be carrying
What if there is more than one person?
You have no right to deny me the best and most effective tools to protect myself and my family.
Like the others have said, get fucked commie, try and take them. I welcome the ensuing civil war.
>>702403270
damn you are so oppressed omg
>>702386035
pretty sure if the guy was cool with breaking the "don't murder people" law they're gonna be cool with breaking the "don't buy illegal guns" law too you fucking spastic lol
>>702389178
>>702396534
>>702401549
The issue was that McDonald's was AWARE of the problem. They knew that the coffee pots were making coffee unsafely hot to hand to customers. During the investigation, it was revealed they thought it would be cheaper to just pay off lawsuits for any burns than to replace all the coffee pots.
>>702402426
They were offered a settlement, which all of them agreed to apart from one fucking retard. It's her fault if anything.
>>702402902
She hurt herself, she chose to play with known hot coffee while driving. She could have chose to leave it alone, but no the dumb bitch is retarded and instead chose to create a risky situation with a known hot liquid. Her choices. Her stupidity. Her fault 110%. You shouldn't need a babysitter unless you're a retard that causes problems and starts up with the frivolous lawsuits to cover up your ignorance and greed.
>>702403472
all they did was turn the temperature down.
>>702403385
Actually I'm not, and I intend to keep it that way
Remember, liberals always say no one is coming for our guns :^)
>>702402902
lowering the temperature of the coffee by ten degrees to prevent burns is also a low IQ argument.
the depth of a burn is related to the temperature of the exposure, the nature of the medium and the time of exposure.
if it soaked through her clothes and sat next to her skin for long enough to cause severe burns, ten degrees will not make a huge amount of difference.
accidents do happen. this is why the cup says 'caution: contents hot' on it, and why it should be treated with respect.
companies cannot be held responsible for what happens when you use their products irresponsibly. are you suggesting mcdonalds should have conducted an IQ test or arranged an assessment with an occupational therapist before it sold her the coffee?
>>702403385
Not yet, because anon ain't gonna let fuckheads like you steal his property
>>702401197
>It's a failed communist state that had high taxes, big gov't, regulations, and gun control.
American idiot right here. The complex social, cultural and historical dynamics behind a civil war are too complex for rednecks so it has to be broken down to a simple formula.
Btw, if big government was the problem why aren't they thriving with no government at all?
>Somalia isn't an intentional anarchy.
Anarchy can't be intentional, you retard.
>>702403565
the issue is that it was not known that it was THAT hot. there is utterly no point to coffee sitting in a dispenser at a temperature that can cause the injuries in the picture.
>>702403681
no we don't.
>>702403690
it wasn't a low IQ argument since it won and mcdonalds did not appeal and indeed changed the way their dispensers worked.
>>702382900
More like
>family member gets killed in theater
>easymoneypotential.jpg
>"give me money because this guy killed my family member in your theater and this is your fault because you were supposed to do something to prevent this"
>go to court against multi million dollar company with lawyer from the mall
>"fuck off you fucking greedy lazy bastards, we are not liable"
>Prolonged court case clogs the legal system as greedy fat Americans attempt to extort donut money from movie company
>judge sides with cinemark because anyone with a brain could see they are not liable
>rightfully makes fatass dirtbag Americunt pigs pay legal fees they forced Cinemark to spend
>"waah as usual the little guy always loses welcum to AmeriKKKa"
>>702401212
>>You should just pack up and run away if things are bad
That is how America got 99% of it's immigrants in the last 200 years, you dip.
>>702385569
'Murica land of the free and home of the brave....
>That is terrified everyday
>>702403889
>Btw, if big government was the problem why aren't they thriving with no government at all?
Because no government is anarchy. Nice strawman
Conservatism has always been about little government being necessary, and individual liberty being most important.
>>702404154
we will not be able to sustain our way of life with the mindset. our economy will flounder as othe rnations jump ahead of us in leaps and bounds because we were not able to adapt.
>>702404040
>no we don't.
Most do, which we all know is a lie. There are few like you who actually come out and say it.
How do you plan on taking them? With the guns you want to ban? How ironic
The number of armed citizens vastly outnumbers the number of police and military combined, so good luck.
>>702382900
>profit
Getting paid back what you've already spent on legal expenses is a profit how exactly?
>>702384418
The cops don't have a legal duty to protect you, why the fuck would a business have a legal duty to protect you from crimes comitted by a third party? If someone steals your phone in a bar is the bar responsible? If someone punches you in a bar is the bar responsible?
>>702389254
Homicides didn't change when gun's were banned. Way to prove that gun bans don't affect murders.
Homicides in the US are down even though gun sales are up.
>>702400005
Interesting that they're so infrequently used to kill people then. Handguns kill WAY more people.
>>702403066
>100,000 muslim refugees
Those are really fucking dangerous aren't they? Btw, why do Americans call their shithole "home of the brave" when it's actually full of pussies scared of some poor refugees?
>>702404040
nice 40s
>it wasn't a low IQ argument since it won
yes, in new mexico, a state with the equal 45th highest average IQ (tied with alabama) out of all US states.
strangely, similar lawsuits elsewhere have been thrown out before even making it to trial. their average IQ must be even lower!
>>702402706
Why is 6 rounds not enough? That's one hit and 5 misses. If we are going by your shitty Darwinian standards for who deserves their right to self preservation based on missing and hitting, why can't we just have muskets and single-shot guns just to weed out all of the bad shots?
Seriously though, stop playing COD and watching shitty hollywood movies. There's a reason cops don't use revolvers anymore, their lack of capacity gets people fucking killed. If cops need 17 rounds in their handgun alone to kill one guy, I surely need more than 6 you fucking faggot.
You are a fagboy and I ask that you please stay in your predesignated containment area of Europe, Africa, and the communist oligarchies formerly known as California and New York. In addition, it is advised that you go back to /leftypol/ or reddit.
>>702404447
>poor refugees who's ideology is in direct conflict with the western world and who refuse to integrate
>>702400579
>A magazine is literally a box with a spring in it, something that could be made easily in someone's garage with basic tools.
One dude made a shotgun that fed from beer bottles just to troll Colorado's mag ban (all beer bottles now require registration but apparently no-one wants to enforce that).
>>702399972
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
kek again.
>US Rate: 3.9
>Average first world county: around 1
>>702404677
(niggers)
>>702402923
Maybe the lawyers should pay when their case fails for lawsuits of this nature. They had to have known this wasn't going to work, and yet they still took the case (and the victims' money) anyway.
>>702404677
Literally niggers
>>702386035
Retard alert
>>702402706
Same restrictions for police, right?
>>702404447
>Those are really fucking dangerous aren't they?
They might be, considering our piece of shit leaders have quite recently been bombing and terrorizing them which tends to turn them into people who utterly hate American people and increase Jihadist sentiments. Remember a fellow named Bin Laden? Ever heard of ISIS?
>>702404154
>Conservatism has always been about little government being necessary
I didn't realize Joseph McCarthy was a democrat.
>>702404677
>>702404855
They're responsible for around 50% of murders, so when you cut that number in half it's, oh wait it's still far higher than the rest of the first world.
>>702404824
See >>702391288 - my previous similar thoughts on the matter.
>The NRA did nothing wrong!
>>702404447
America is a shithole
It is not the home of the brave
Muslims are filth
Refugees should be murdered en masse
You are a faggot
I bet you dont even own a gun like a stupid homosexual tranny and you dont want anyone else to own one either because you are a repulsive close minded neanderthal nigger with a small dick that has splits down the sides like an overcooked hotdog.
>>702404512
check 'em
im sorry for calling you low IQ. that was uncalled for.
you're absolutely right that many don't make it through the trial. but many do. the reason why we have seatbelts, reasonably heated coffee, guards on our pill bottles, etc. are all because companies inherently put profits over safety of customers. these lawsuits overall have made the usa a better place. but i agree with you overall, fuck the frivilous lawsuits. the mcdonalds coffee accident was not one of those, though.
>>702404609
>who's ideology is in direct conflict with the western world and who refuse to integrate
And how exactly do you know there ideology? Breitbart or Limbough?
Of course they all run from ISIS because they agree with its radical Islamic ideals so much. No wait, they are all sleepers really...or lizard people.
>>702404944
yes.
>>702404979
He was for a time
>>702405088
The white murder rate is very close to that of Finland
Is Finland not in the first world?
>>702389254
It had little to no effect on crime. Do you not care about your personal liberties?
>>702405333
>Refugees should be murdered en masse
Like ISIS does? Nice argument Ali Islam Jabahr.
Don't try to hide it behind pseudo-arguments you pulled of some right-wing blog: You're just a xenophobic cunt.
>>702405373
Koran mostly
>>702405088
Which is besides the point since the whole "you eurofags don't have niggers" argument would have been relevant 30 years ago, not so much today.
>>702405088
Read the fucking chart properly retard.
The overall rate for the US is the same as Argentina, Estonia, Lithuania.
Murder rate of hispanics in the US is about the same as the overall, murder rate of whites in the US is about half, murder rate of blacks in the US is 4x higher.
Incidentally, most murders in the US are totally racist and prefer to murder people of the same color.
>>702405429
converts are usually the most extreme. gotta prove they're the real deal.
>>702404955
>Remember a fellow named Bin Laden?
<---- This guy here?
>>702405552
350 homicides to 250 homicides per year is a substantial effect. life is a personal liberty. do you not care about personal liberties?
>>702405627
>overall rate is comparable to South America and eastern Europe.
>This disproves your point
major kek
>>702405617
Europe has black people, it doesn't have a lot of niggers.
US black people (who are mostly less than 1/2 black by the way) have become a unique race & culture that is singularly self destructive.
>>702405589
>Koran mostly
You read that thing, sandnigger?
>>702390467
There should've been a revolution after FDR left office
>>702405627
Why do you get to cherry pick the races you want to include in your stats, an American is an American.
>>702405902
I've read the Bible too
>>702382900
Fuck those retarded cunts for being overly litigious and fuck you for being retarded enough support their stupid asses like dead loved ones mean they're exempt from paying for stupid decisions. How the fuck is a movie theater gonna prevent all lunatics from hurting people? Go kill yourself.
And before you say anything retarded like "You can't relate, anon. Blah blah victim's families were compromised state of mind due to grief", Jillian Johnson of Lafayette was a personal friend.
>>702406007
>I've read the Bible too
Fag.
>>702399053
No-one was using firearms for self defence in the UK - you got crucified for doing that. Equally, no-one was murdering anyone with legal held firearms.
So the ban had ZERO effect on the murder rate.
Same deal in Australia.
>>702405999
It had the total too.
The point of that was that murders of blacks (which are 90% by blacks) in the US is a huge problem.
>>702405799
Yup. BTW that paper is dated after the World Trade Center bombings... so WTF?
>>702406050
you are more persuasive when you don't call people stupid or retarded or tell people to kill themselves, especially when you talk in your next paragraph about losing someone you know.
>>702405373
>proud libtard
>probably a proud msnbc viewer
>everyone who disagrees must be a consumer of right-leaning media
>still believing in the left-right paradigm in 2016
>being this retarded
>being this embarrassing
>thinking he's funny
God, i could go on and on with such an embarrassing pile of ancient cum tissues like yourself
>>702404944
Why the fuck are you americans so afraid of your police force? I'm quite confident a police officer in Britain would risk their life in order to save mine, you make them sound like the gestapo.
>>702405834
Take out the blacks and it's around Brunei and Finland - not "far higher than the rest of the first world"
>>702406208
the murder and violent crime rate in australia plummeted, as has already been discussed at length in this thread.
>>702406389
because they are like the fucking getapo. im an educated white heterosexual male and i dont trust them for shit.
>>702404855
>>702405088
"Crime" isn't exclusive to 'gun violence.'
>>702402053
youre right it's not fallacious. getting fed up with all the "oo red herring" or "straw man" cries. pointing out fallacies is for people with limited minds who are unable prove their own point
sorry to interrupt
carry on
>popcorn.jpg
>>702406389
American police exist to keep order and enforce law. They have no duty to protect people or risk their lives for you.
Americans are distrustful of the government and police because we are well aware of how corrupt it is.
>>702406208
>So the ban had ZERO effect on the murder rate.
Then why did it drop below pre-gun ban levels after a short spike?
>>702405589
>>702406007
Incidentally, they're not all that different.
>>702406453
>Murder rate in Australia plummeted
It dropped more in the years prior to the ban than it did afterwards.
The ban had ZERO effect on murders.
>>702406569
I believe my picture was for overall homicides
>>702406671
>getting fed up with all the "oo red herring" or "straw man" cries.
then stop posting deficient arguments.
>sorry to interrupt
it's okay.
>>702406299
I live in Louisiana and browse /b/, what do you expect?
>>702406745
Which is why the Western world is based on secularism, not Sharia, and why America was founded on the separation of church and state
>>702405588
>psuedo arguments pulled out of right wing blog
>implying any of that was an argument
>being this retarded
>being this upset
Wow. What a dipshit. Just so full of libtard bile and rage its just like foaming at the mouth, literally begging for an outlet in the form of forum posting.
You are just pissed because you are retarded and a fat fucking crybaby, you tumblr using faggot.
>>702382900
>ignorant asshats try to sue theater even though it's not their fault
>dickheads running company counter sue the asshats
Seems like both sides are wrong. If I was a judge I'd line them all against a wall and run along with a hand out to slap them all in the face. Then I would order them all to shut the fuck up and go home.
>>702406780
and it was increasing immediately prior to the ban. the ban promulgated a change for the better, and it turned the tide against criminals and drove the rates even further down.
>>702406300
>>702406961
i would expect that you wouldn't want to waste your time communicating to people when they won't listen to them because of the way to talk to them.
>>702406745
People are not being beheaded at the Vatican.
>>702406995
Christianity has undergone reforms, Islam has not. Before, Christianity was indistinguishable from Islam, as demonstrated by how Christian Americans treat non-Christians and try to use their religion to dictate legislation.
>>702407061
>If I was a judge I'd line them all against a wall and run along with a hand out to slap them all in the face. Then I would order them all to shut the fuck up and go home.
metaphorically, he tried to. it was a really interesting case.
>>702407224
It's like you didn't even read the last post.
>>702404855
Damn Lithuania is pretty high up there.
>>702407287
neither are they at the kabbah.
>>702407287
see>>702407325
Also forgot to point out how Fundamentalist Christians believe the Earth is flat (like Fundamentalist Muslims).
>>702407337
maybe you couldn't comprehend my resonponse. i know that the education system is really bad down there...
>>702407287
>>702407412
No, babies are just having large chunks of their dicks cut off.
>>702405588
>Bitches about right wing bullshit and xenophobia
>posts pic that supports xenophobic thinking
>>702407599
tips fedora.
>>702406692
In 2003 there was a massive investment in the police forces in the UK. That's the reason for the downward trend. A bunch of other crimes also trended downwards from that point.
Murders with licensed firearms per year is generally about 2-5 total and these have always been mostly shotguns are they are the easiest to be licensed for and by far the most numerous type. The ban on handguns did nothing since licensed handguns weren't being used in murders or self-defence in anything other than highly exceptional circumstances.
>>702407115
>replying to everything even tho i havent got shit to say as a comeback
>im not retarded im not retarded im not retarded im not retarded im not retarded im not retarded im not retarded im not retarded im not retarded im not retarded PLEASE dont think im retarded
Liberals. Go figure.
>>702407495
But fundamentalist Christians aren't killing gay people, they're just voicing their opinions under free speech, something that most Muslim countries don't have.
In many Muslim countries being gay is punishable by death, as is not being Muslim.
>>702407062
You're full of shit.
The gun homicide rate was already falling prior to the ban and continued to fall at a steady rate.
The ban had literally zero effect.
>>702407953
same goes for many christian countries.
>>702398693
300 million weapons in circulation and I'm not turning mine in. Do you know how easy it is to make a gun in your garage?
>>702408191
Like who?
>>702407953
>they're not killing people
They would if secularist laws (you know, those "godless, devil-worshiping, liberal-agenda" laws) didn't make murder of someone based on race, sexuality, religion, or political affiliation a crime (all of which were fine up until about the 60s).
We still get our most valuable resources from countries that still DO kill gays for pure virtue of being gay. We're just as guilty.
>>702407953
America isn't a 'Christian country.'
>>702408243
much of subsarahan africa, in addition to extrajudical killings in the united states, venezuela, colombia, brazil, etc.
>>702398693
>The availability is really low and therefore prices
Crap. Illegal guns are still inexpensive in the UK.
>>702406692
Now we're sacrificing the cops too? You must be a big fan of BLM
>>702407062
>and it was increasing immediately prior to the ban.
BULLSHIT
The homicide rate was up slightly for one year prior to the ban after falling sharply for years and the gun homicide rate was falling steadily prior to the ban.
The gun homicide rate continued to fall steadily.
Your justification for the ban and your allegation for it's impact are both completely bogus.
>>702408292
This is just fucking retarded, Christianity is shit but it has been reforming itself for centuries as western culture has gone through enlightenment.
>They'd be killing people if murder sentences weren't increased based on identity politics
You serious anon? I'm pretty sure that normal laws against murder plus modern mores and morals have kept most fundamentalist christians from killing people in the recent past .
>>702406674
So the oath is complete bollocks?
And you're running a country like this?
>>702400005
"It's black and scary looking !!!!"
>>702405359
apology unnecessary but accepted. no point getting butthurt on here, insinuating the other person is retarded is part of /b/'s charm.
i hate the power of big business. i hate the way that conglomerates combine economies of scale with tax breaks to make it incredibly difficult for joe shit to set up his own small, local, independent competitor. they've strangled the american dream worldwide.
however, i'm also a medfag, and therefore ambulance-chasing and frivolous lawsuits naturally repel me, as i will be targeted by that shit at some point.
>>702409180
To protect the country, and serve the nation. Not the people
>>702406569
Now look at those numbers and consider that black people only make up 12% of the population but commit:
49% of murders
33% of rate
55% of robbery
34% of assault
31% of burglary
etc.
In total they commit 28% of the crimes with a clear preference to violent crime.
>>702400217
An ar 15 is no more powerful than a deer rifle
>>702409446
It's often less powerful