They both die though. A house falls on one wicked witch and the other one gets melted in water.
>a house falls on one wicked witch
This is the most likely scenario under a second Clintion presidency.
Yeah dont you get it? Hes gonna build a glorious wall but have david copperfield stand there and make it look like theres no wall from Mexicos side. And mexico is going to pay copperfields salary. 100%.
You're to young to remember this but the media had Regan and Carter running neck and neck on election day. They mistakenly thought they controlled the narrative then just like they do now.
He probably would if he could stay consistent about something other than a goddamned Wall.
>MEXICO'S GONNA PAY FOR THAT WALL!
>Mexican President: "No."
Gets back to America
>THEY'RE GONNA PAY, THEY JUST DON'T KNOW IT YET!
Let me tell you, and I've told a lot of people a lot of things, let me tell you. Believe me, and I love people who believe me, I do. I love them. They're beautiful people. Look, I've told a lot of people these things, and these things are things, believe me. They're things now, and we have to do something about these things, let me tell you.
Really not sure why he's so up in arms against Mexico. If anything, it would hurt him personally. But, if he wants to undo decades of diplomacy, go right ahead.
Just wish he had said "you send your worst to us" directly to the President's face.
>my thoughts this entire campaign season
Ah yes, the narrative that the Mexican government is deliberately sending criminals to the U.S., and that all the drugs come directly from Mexico.
>nothing to back this up, of course
>you're triggering me, Anon
I've read it, dipshit.
That's how I know it's a joke that isn't going to work.
Yes, let's just waste shit-tons of money we could be using to create jobs to build this cringing monument to bigotry and xenophobia.
OK I hate trump but I don't honestly see anything wrong with him saying that they're sending their worst over here. It's not an attack on Mexican people, just those who sneak over the border.
He's not against Mexico, he's against Illegal Immigrants (the majority being FROM Mexico) and the detriment they cause
Because it isn't factual, and running a campaign purely on opinions, false equivalencies, and emotional outbursts doesn't do anyone any good.
Why not just open the borders to every piece of shit from around the world to com eon in and leach off the government which will raise OUR taxes to pay for the leaches that keep coming in ILLEGALLY! That is what Hillery wants to do. You think it is a better plan?
The only hope is that enough of the majority will vote for him and when she wins anyway they will fight it to hell and back but most Americans will just let it go
We should start a revolution if this happens because it is totally bullshit
It really isn't. You might think so, but have you ever actually BEEN to Mexico? Probably not. You're probably just going off what other people tell you and what you see on TV. But again, if you can provide any actual proof that the Mexican government has been using the U.S. as a 'dumping ground' for its worst citizens, I'd be more than happy to read it.
Funny, because South Korea, Japan, and even China could say the same about our soldiers stationed abroad.
he's a dummy on a lot of things. But illegal immigration is not one of them.
You want to know how he's going to get Mexico to pay for the wall? We are going to give them less aid.
wew. found the illegal mexican
And will he pull his factories out of Mexico? Doubtful, as that would hurt him financially. Even giving them less 'aid' wouldn't be enough to pay for what he's run his campaign almost entirely on.
If it weren't, he'd have done so by now. Not only in Mexico, but in China as well.
>complains about jobs going overseas
>is actually sending jobs overseas
>It really isn't.
The illegals are streaming into America because Mexico has failed as a nation. They're economic refugees looking for a decent quality life that's unattainable for them in Mexico.
But let me know when millions of Americans illegally stream into another country looking for a better life.
>streaming into America
kek, you actually believe this? You people act as though there isn't Border Patrol, an actual series of fences, and everything else already in place to keep them from 'streaming' into the country. You only want a 'wall' because it's symbolic, and gives you a better sense of 'security' in the hypothetical sense.
And what do you say of the many Americans leaving this country and outright renouncing their citizenship elsewhere? Perhaps America's the one lacking.
No he's living proof that our tax system has pushed corporate america overseas and lost jobs at home. He's flat out admitted that. And that he wants to create a system that entices our jobs to stay in this country. At his own cost. Hell, he's spent more on his campaign than his "made in mexico" products have given him.
>At his own cost
The man doesn't even pay taxes, and has proven that he can't even "self-finance" his own campaign like he said he could; he's literally got Fox begging for viewers to send in donations. The man's got you conned.
he's already won the I'm a hugeorangedouchebag title.
up next: imgoingtojailbecaseimapedphile
I don't think you understand what the word 'bigoted' means. Might want to look that up.
And yes, in general, people who sneak into other countries aren't generally from the upper class of society and have a much higher proportion of criminals.
I've been to the border. I've seen what our US government calls a "fence". There are places where there are really tall 20+ ft fences. there are places where is a cattle fence. The border patrol has enough people to drive past one spot every half hour. I think that gives lots of opportunities for people to cross.
There's a spot near Sierra Vista where a nice huge 20ft wall stops at a river. People can walk around the fence at the bank. the same fence goes up a big hill but only goes part way up it before it stops. People just walk around it.
>The United States Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has estimated that 11.4 million unauthorized immigrants lived in the United States in January 2012. According to DHS estimates, "the number of illegal immigrants peaked around 12 million in 2007 and has gradually declined to closer to 11 million.
I can see that you're obviously only interested in arguing and not in facts or reason, so enjoy my last reply.
And you think that requires a 'wall' that spans the entire southern border of the U.S. Interesting.
Might as well just set up a DMZ. They pretty much have at El Paso.
You've yet to provide a single shred of empirical
that the Mexican government is deliberately sending criminals. As I've said, I'd be glad to read the facts as soon as you have them.
Better luck next time.
They are just tired of the bullshit and having to pay for lazy fucks.
No, and that's the thing: no one does. Trump's hiding them because he's hiding how much he really pays (if anything, which is doubtful at this point). People begged Obama show his AND his birth certificate...he did...now let's see Trump's.
>deliberately sending criminals
Then they should go after the corporations and people EXACTLY LIKE TRUMP who haven't worked a day in their lives, and come from 'old money.'
>No. You are the "establishment."
>the mexican government is sending them here illegally
Yes it is, dumbfuck.
Trump was stereotyping Mexico, and was roundly condemned by the Mexican govt and frankly anyone with a brain.
Funny how you faggots keep doubling down on this shit like it's a badge of honor to be a bigoted xenophobic dipshit.
he started off as the anti establishment guy who said a few dumb things
he kept doubling down on his dumb statements and it's going to bite him in nov. he's def going to lose
Oh so we're going to pretend that Trump isn't a bigot after all and let me guess LIBERALS are the real bigots.
Actually Clinton has a shit-ton of endorsements from all sorts of groups and individuals
Trump, not so much
>Clinton has a literal trail of bodies behind her
because Breitshart said so?
Actually, Clinton and HIllary have a shit ton of endorsements from crooked rich corporations and elitists, but the only individuals who support them are the ones who can't use intelligence, but only shout "Racist!" and "Sexist" "Anti-Semite" to everything they don't understand.
>liberals are enthusiastically inviting a brown slave class illegally into the united states to be exploited, abused, and brutalized by wealthy employers
No actually Clinton has the labor movement and most of Congress endorsing her.
You're just one of those dipshits who try to make Clinton stoop to Trump's level, and that just isn't happening, faggot. Sorry.
He's going to win, and here's why: nobody cares enough to see that he's a bad businessman who says whatever peasants want to hear. I live in the southeast and have to cringe daily over how people think he's going to use his business acumen to fix anything.
Yep, we are fucked either way. And I won't vote for either.
But hypothetically, wouldn't it be less damaging to have Trump as president? No one, even his own party, will cooperate with him. I doubt the military would even follow his orders. He's a fucking joke. He cannot legislate from the White House, so there's no chance of his agenda even becoming a bill that would inevitably be rejected.
Hillary, on the other hand, will accomplish a ridiculous number of really horrible things. And everyone will suffer for it.
Again, I'm not advocating for Trump, but a vote is consent. Shouldn't we all just not vote, in protest of this bullshit?
Actually it was a bunch of mostly conservative cheap white Republicans who started hiring illegals because they're so fucking cheap and then it became a problem after decades.
The smart thing to do is admit they're here as undocumented workers. But Trumpfags like you want to turn this country into a police state because you're scared of brown people.
¡Ándale! ¡Ándale! ¡Arriba! ¡Arriba!
>then it became a problem after decades
Haa haa haa! Caught ya!
At least you admit it, right?
Trump might be a bigot, but saying that a lot of illegal immigrants are criminals is not a bigoted statement. You don't understand what the word means, and you're one of the average retarded people who identify as a liberal that make me embarrassed to also be a liberal. There are morons on both sides of the political spectrum, and you prove it.
Not scared, annoyed. They are a constant fucking pain in the ass. Not because of skin color, but because of their shitty culture. Bad drivers, bad neighbors, bad shoppers, selfish obliviots.
But... him and Mexico's president fall in love yesterday
can't have an intelligent debate with a dipshit who keeps denying Trump's bigotry.
It's there, you just don't want to accept it's real, and a big factor in his failure to win this.
What's more likely...
A life-long democrat runs a brilliant campaign as a republican, fools the public with reality-tv-style marketing, then purposely sabotages his own campaign in order to promote an unopposed election in favor of a political family that he's backed for decades...
Or he genuinely changed his mind on most political issues, and he (a successful billionaire who's worked with marketing teams relentlessly over the decades) has simply fucked it all up because he's too stupid.
This is like people that called Bush stupid. He was brilliant as a politician: he upped his accent to get the regular-guy vote, downplayed his intelligence so you didn't expect him to be capable of fucking you, and then behind the scenes assembled a team of extremely capable people to run semi-privatized wars in which his friends all benefited.
What other deep thoughts did you think about over at Breitbart?
>Also economically unfeasible on behalf of the US
Nice English, Poco. No one gives a fuck about what's happens to a criminals family. American families deal with the repercussions of a criminal family members actions all the time.
You made your bed, now you're gonna sleep in it.
>if he were to get close a lot of shady shit would happen behind the scenes to keep it from happening.
People have been saying that for months, and it's not happening. Now there's tons of shady shit hitting Clinton. Trump really has nowhere to go but up, meanwhile all the shit that keeps getting dug up on Clinton is starting to pile up and the smell might affect voters. Really, the poll numbers are not absolute. People don't like Trump more, they just like Hillary less as time goes on.
Enjoy your bus ride home in November, Paco.
>Trump really has nowhere to go but up,
Not after the Convention, and not after last night.
You really thought that wandering cringefest of an "immigration policy speech" was impressive?
Except Reagan actually ran a tight campaign.
Trump, not so much.
Stop being a dipshit trying to compare the two.
You're going to be the one saying "nobody I knew voted for Clinton."
Take a fucking look at the Electoral College. You really think California is getting on the Trump Train? New York? Florida?
You do realize that we send billions to them yearly in aid, and that trade imbalances, once leveled, would in effect, "pay for said wall"? Along with every fucked up bridge in America.
And a level playing field with China and Japan could wipe out our debt in one term?
(Prolly pay for all the kiddies' college, too. Not that it should, as earning something builds character).
Many, many ways to get Mexico to pay for that wall, kid.
It doesn't matter. There are only two candidates and they might as well be the same fucking person. They are both snakes in human form. They are both committed to stripping the American people of their most basic human rights. This is the end for us.
You know what the best part is, Paco?
I'm going to vote for Trump and he's going to win in November.
And then you and your criminal family are going back to Mexico.
And there's literally nothing you can do about it.
this thread is now on Cringewatch
murca: where being questioned is the same as being guilty of a punishable offence.
i'm glad i will never have to face you assholes as my jury.
innocent until proven guilty? not in murca, there it's guilty even if you haven't even been accused of anything.
Clinton is arguably the most qualified person to push the DNC progressive platform and stand up to the Republicans. Sorry you feel the need to buy into all the crap the Republicans have pulled out of their ass attempting to discredit her.
>durr hurr kurrect the penis
It's far more likely
it's got all the hallmarks of the attacks against Obama, only more off the chain.
And see, the Republicans didn't even think Sanders was a threat, so they didn't lay into him.
But it's sad to think that anyone who might have a progressive ideology is going to be hammered by the right like this.
Trump had the highest voter turnout, adjusted for population, than any republican nominee in the past 16 years
Which makes sense given the backlash against Obama and 8 years of Dem leadership
Which people will argue wasn't prosperous because their health insurance went up and jobs continued to go overseas
[spoiler] your jobs are never coming back, ever [/spoiler]
Her detractors don't think she's offering a "stable" democracy. In fact, the way her and the DNC pushed Bernie out of the race, you'd be forgiven for thinking she wasn't even a fan of the whole democratic process.
I'm not a Trump fan, in that I don't think he's a good candidate for the job, but that doesn't mean I'll turn a blind eye to all the bullshit that Hillary and the DNC have pulled.
>itt one sad Mexican waging a losing war
Even if you win your people and their demographic will just do to the U.S. what they did to Mexico. Then where will your people run? To Canada?
If you had just stayed and fought for your home the same way you're fighting to stay in a country you entered illegally your Mexico might be a place worth living in at this point.
It's really telling how your people are fighting so hard NOT to be sent back there. Your behavior speaks volumes, amigo.
You can't blame any American for not wanting you shitty wetbacks here, and your actions are representative of that completely valid reasoning. Mexicans are just shit people who ruin everything they touch.
>You disagree with me, so you're obviously not a real Floridian
Except I am, and I have lived in nearly every city between Pensacola and Miami. Which is nothing to be proud of, this state fucking sucks. But that doesn't change the fact that lots of Floridians are racist, and lots of Floridians like guns. Disagreeing with me won't change those facts.
Yeah but honestly big money realizes that politics is a dirty business, they're not going to be shocked by the DNC's shenanigans.
And Trump's math just isn't working. That means they fall back on the Obama model of Presidential economics Hillary is going to continue.
Not the optimum by conservative standards, but still a stable enough economy where they make out all right. There's no question. Trump can't offer this.
I'm not saying there is. I think most people are at least a little bit racist, if they're honest. And I like guns. Just seemed like whoever replied to me was disagreeing with my suggestion that Floridians are often racist, and often "gun-toting."
>You can't blame any American for not wanting you shitty wetbacks here
American "small business" is why they come here you dimwit.
Americans don't want MOST of the jobs the "wetbacks" do, and US business owners know that.
tl;dr. angry unemployed methhead redneck
Ellis Island much? Most immigrants passes through some sort of vetting. It only needs to be more hardcore now because of Islam invading the world.
The worst comes to America now and just fuck it up trying to change it to their old country.
Come here legally, and embrace it, and we be mates.
>so you're obviously not a real Floridian
Lived there for 10 years.
It's not the same EVERYWHERE in FL.
If you in fact "lived everywhere... It must have been in the trashiest parts of "every" city.
get out of the pond
We've got a history of not squashing shitty foreign invaders, yes. That being said, I'd rather live with a white who built this country into what is is today than a Mexican who's running from a country he helped destroyed to the point that he no longer wants to fight for it.
>angry unemployed methhead redneck
>Americans don't want MOST of the jobs the "wetbacks" do
Not true. Most Americans just won't work for a below poverty wage like a weak-minded spic desperate to escape Mexico will. Their weak-mindedness is the reason Mexico is in such shitty shape and why they'll ruin the US the same way.
>So is this guy going to win or what???
But I'm hopeful.