What in the actual fuck. Is she fucking mentally ill. I didnt think anyone could be any more retarded than trump but jesus christ.
US is fucked regardless of who wins. I tend to think Trump would do less damage than hellbeast here, but fuck. God damnit burgers you had the whole primaries to push someone halfway competent up to the nomination and instead you now have a choice between these two clowns.
Smokey? I would vote for Smokey. Or Yogi. Not Pooh, too passive.
>USA uses "military response"
>China and Russia: "Ololo here we go again boi"
>USA got annihilated
>Russia: Oh my eastern friend, would you let me take all the murrican stuff?
>China: No, fuck off my goodies!
>Russia and China got annihilated
>Europe: OMG OMG OMG WTF
>Europe annihilated itself
>Australia fired ion hyperspace engines and get off the planet to outer space
>Muslims invaded ruined Russia and occasionally got blown up by auto-defense system
>Niggas and latinos now rule the world!
>God damnit burgers you had the whole primaries to push someone halfway competent up to the nomination
you mean we had the whole primaries to think we had the freedom to elect our president
How is it "retarded" to recognize that cyberattacks are a threat to national security?
So if it turns out that ISIS makes the financial system crash, we SHOULDN'T respond militarily? Am I hearing this right?
when did republicans become such pussies. she wants to bomb the mother fuckers that hack us and you guys are afraid or some shit.
fucking fags, go suck trumps cock, let the democrats deal with running the country
>hackers release all the shady shit politicians do, especially hillary
>this is a matter of national security somehow
> So if it turns out that ISIS makes the financial system crash, we SHOULDN'T respond militarily? Am I hearing this right?
Having the last word and belittling their opponents always takes precedence over fighting the actual enemies that the alt-right claims is at our door. Never forget that.
It's just funny because I hear people saying "omg how could anyone vote for trump he's gonna start a nuclear war if he gets elected!!" and then Clinton comes out saying shit like this.
Trump will be great. I went to the rally a few days ago. Hillary is mentally and physically unfit, not to mention all the corruption and assassinations and inability to go up stairs.
>threat to national security
Ok child let me explain to you how interconnected networks work.
The game is who has the best security and best response when an attack is made.
The attack will happen, we are attempting to crack and bypass security settings for pretty much every known country on the planet.
They do the same thing.
It's the new version of The Cold War.
If you seriously believe that we have a right to apply military pressure on another country for doing this to us.
You must also believe we deserve to have every single country in the entire world having nukes aimed at us and ready to fire.
The only way to fight "cyberterrorism" is to turn off the servers.
As long as a single server is left on. Someone can break into it.
First off, fuck Hillary. But she's right in this case. And also, "military response" can include non-kinetic warfare. Like hacking their shit back. Cyber attacks are still considered military acts, and I don't think you all understand that
She will start a war we will not win. I as many other should, will take that opportunity to start cleansing the US of the Jews, Liberals, Niggers and Muslims. They should die along with the country they helped to destroy.
You can also use a new network, or a new protocol/encryption regularly, or just disconnect from the network (like the military does).
The real fight isn't to crack networks, its to gain the ability to do so effectively. Quantum computers are the nukes.
not really because he doesn't have an issue with them. Hillery does because they are about the only countries that haven't donated to her "foundation" or at least not as much as she would like.
The irony is all you have been doing is dodging the original point that putting out hacks from bullshit hillary and other politicians did that were shady as fuck aren't a matter of national security. Meanwhile, if anyone else hosted their own email server with sensitive government information, they have and would be put in jail.
The master troll by calling others a troll while doing nothing to argue a point, calling names and crying that people don't agree with you. Almost sounds like something a child would do, hmmm, where have I heard that accusation before?
A military action could be a reason for a fucking war and is threatening not only national security, but international security with their heavy weaponry. And every country does that, I mean who got exposed for it? (USA NSA for the dumb niggs)
>implying that americans voted for bush
Hey if the bitch is stupid enough to make statues of Trump with a secret ingredient then you know she is stupid enough to attack the world because of the internet.
Woah, they must of included free hot pockets and a sign up bonus of a shit bucket.
Sorry you can't handle basic history and get so easily btfo by facts.
Bush was in office 8 years because the wrong people voted, and you were too big of a pussy dipshit to do your duty.
you are retarded if you believe that the american public voted bush into office, or indeed have any say at all in the election of the president
might I direct your addled mind to the concept of the electoral college
Yeah they actually did. Enough voted that there was a paper-thin margin in Florida.
Meanwhile liberals were being stupid above-it-all faggots like you and Gore didn't even win his home state in 2000.
And you are the retard if you think Bush wasn't outright elected in 2004. Again, pussy faggots like you thought you were so fucking far above the 2 party system let Bush in there again, so he could nearly tank the economy in 2008.
Shut up. Stop replying.
> the people will elect hillary
You mean our beloved corporate masters will elect hillary. Our kind gentle master, who would never hurt us. Ever.
>shut up. stop replying
you don't elect the president mang
No pretty sure it's going to be me and all who participate in this election process to elect Clinton
sorry not everyone is a paranoid hivemind faggot like you huddling for warmth
Yes we do fuckwad. My vote is part of the process where the candidate wins the state where I live.
There has NEVER been an instance where an elector threw an election. Ever.
You are a paranoid dipshit with nothing but disdain for the democratic system. Stop posting.
>i shiggy diggy doobie whoopie doobie doggy doo
Faggot funny how the vote matters if Congress suddenly turns Republican and votes to shut down the government.
You are a retard. Stop using this dead talking point. Your vote matters. Fucking deal with it.
>nobody fucking "shills" for Clinton here
sorry, but this is the most retarded shit I have ever read, it's been confirmed that certain things are getting shilled on this site, the fact that you posted that statement just reeks of shill, you didn't go in a personal defense and say you werent a shill, but you said NOBODY, which suggests you have few friendo on here.
Now, please, would you kindly an hero?
>it's been confirmed that certain things are getting shilled on this site
No it hasn't dipshit
inb4 cringing gay fake /pol/ screenshot
nobody fucking cares about this website for politics
this meme is dead
stop pushing it
Oh, you mean where it turned into baby game name calling and baby games? Glad to see you can't actually retort the rest. Don't worry guys, totally not a shill cause le memes. Ignore any actual point, turn into ad hom fight, get mad when someone does it back, piss and moan and blame /pol/.
aight, I can see you're having a little trouble, so I'll help you out here and break it down barney style.
The electoral college elects the president. Their votes are counted to determine who is elected. Your votes count only as an opinion for their consideration, so your vote does not actually decide anything. Furthermore, the electoral college does not have to disclose the identity of its members or who voted for what.
Sorry kiddo, you don't elect the president, and you never will.
If you were the faggot or agree with the faggot who posted the cringing /pol/ meme
you don't have an argument
you're welcome to start over without the faggotry and if I feel like responding to you
I'm afraid you're only encouraging them son.
Actually you're having trouble with the concept of democracy, voting, and how both are crucial aspects of the Presidential election.
right, because anyone who challenges your rigid alzheimers-to-be-in-10-years-or-less worldview must be under 30 :^)
Since you are a crybaby butthurt fag, probably not going to go anywhere except MAXIMUM SHILL MODE. But you can scroll up a bit and read the original statements if you weren't a dipshit faggot who actually reads threads when you respond in them, it would be easier. GJ on the shitposting though.
She is such an ultra-hawk in foreign policy that I'm absolutely convinced she'll start like two wars a year once president over next to nothing. And if there's actually nothing to start them over, she'll just make up the reasons in this manner just like Bush.
Fucking hell. Worst presidential candidates in the history of the country. One is totally incompetent and stupid, the other one bought, insane and dangerous as fuck to everyone
You sound pretty mad about having to actually read and getting called out on your shitposting.
Or you are an edgy teen who just calls everyone underaged in this thread instead of actually reading the thread and contributing anything useful, then get mad when people call you out on it, cause then you would have to actually argue a point instead of just crying.
You DO realize that America is one of the countries that does the most cyber attacks, hacking, and spying on leaders right?
America illegally listened to all the phone calls to the leaders in Europe and recorded the phone calls of tens of millions of Europeans. Of course, all of this is brushed off because it was done by big daddy America, and not by the ''evil russians''.
Clearly, that is why you do such a fantastic job of arguing your points that you don't make or arguing against the supposed memes and falsehoods.
Not much trolling you did. Did you not see my "ironic shitposting is still shitposting" post. It might be too subtle for an autist, but it was meant to tell you that everyone knows youre just pretending to be retarded by this point.
>trolled ya faget
Wow, totally nailed it bro, clearly not an edgelord retard, just an intellectual powerhouse, calling people gay and 12 like real adults do.
your definition of trolling is telling people things they don't want to think about? i dunno, man, that seems a little short-sighted to me, especially considering i haven't said anything provocative at all. do you think maybe you're just paranoid that everyone is a troll, but many of them are just trying to explain things to you?
I'm actually an informed voter who agrees with Clinton's remarks, so no.
"Imbecile" would be the tards who attack Clinton because of something they read on /pol/ or Breitbart.
"On four occasions, most recently in 2000, the Electoral College system has resulted in the election of a candidate who did not receive the most popular votes in the election."
There won't be a big war plebs. The industrialists that run shit have assets in all superpowers. A war would between super powers would not benefit them.
We will continue invading countries that reject the world bank.
Read a few different articles on it. Yeah. We should counteract cyber attacks. But as everyone here has said we do it just as much as they do. When it comes to basic espionage we can't go to war just because they got Intel that a guy there is a spy or some shit. That kinda stuff has been going on for decades and long before the Internet. She just seems booty blasted that her shit got strowed all over the yard and now she's gotta clean it up. Also the details about the actual hacks look like bullshit. I mean srsly? The only thing they had access to was an algorithm server for voting trends and no personal info was vulnerable? C'mon man. Names were named. Emails were leaked. The head of the DNC was shamed and forced to resign. People died! I don't think we're getting the whole story. And it wouldn't surprise me. I know I know. Better buy stock in aluminum foil. Right.
This is the Anon you responded to.
I am ex military, we use decryption changed on a monthly basis. I've also pulled a network cord once in my entire career.
You understood what I meant.
The only way to not have a cyber attack is to not use a network.
A safe is only defined by how long it takes to open, there is no rating for how unbreakable something is. Because nothing is truly unbreakable.
Anyways, Hillary is only upset because the most recent string of attacks have been on subjects that she was deeply involved in.
While the redacted information that has not been declassified might not be illegal (it would of already been brought up to congress when it was archived if it was). It could be highly unethical and cost her the election or have her impeached if she wins and the information is leaked later.
What they aren't telling you is how often we are making cyber attacks on China, which for every successful probe on us that happens we have multiple probes on their servers that are successful. Like the one in 2010 where we probed a server that had evidence of them stealing information about a top secret fighter jet project.
We did nothing with the evidence, we took it to the U.N. and pretty much used it to laugh in their faces.
Cyber attacks only have two goals, bringing a persons garbage out in the open or stealing information about tech/personal.
The later is a necessary evil as we do it to them all the time and it's saved lives in the past. The former I'm completely ok with, I dislike most politics and could care less if their deeds are brought to light.
I'd rather have a known dictator with strict set of rules than someone pretending to be good who is doing fucked up things behind closed doors.
i'm not sure what you tried to say there, i don't understand the phrase 'don't to think about', and i don't think i ever used that phrase. also, it sounds like you may have the same issue with 'samefags' that you do with trolls, in that you seem to see them everywhere. Could it be that there are not trolls and samefags everywhere, but that most of it is conjured in your own mind? think about how unhealthy that is.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
>Read a few different articles on it.
I don't have to.
You're the one who needs to accept that cyberattacks are the newest potential threat against this country. And so far you haven't.
You were, weren't you? Early on in the thread when you started your stupid crusade for hillary. But even then, we spy on people constantly and have been on china and russia, it is retarded at best to think we would go to war with them over it.
No, it means that the electoral college has complete autonomy over the president and you don't even get to know who they are. Most of the time voting numbers are inflated or outright falsified (as it was this year in pretty much all of New York) to make it appear that the electoral college is in line with the people's will. You are governed by an organization that you do not elect, who you do not see, who does not have to explain why or even tell you that they made a decision. The president is a figurehead.
I hole-hardedly agree, but allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a sick sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go. Make my words, when you get down to brass stacks it doesn't take rocket appliances to get two birds stoned at once. It's clear who makes the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your prize and accept the facts. You might have to come to this conclusion through denial and error but I swear on my mother's mating name that when you put the petal to the medal you will pass with flying carpets like it’s a peach of cake.
just shut up faggot
your little stunt to get libs not to vote isn't working
and we are going to elect Clinton, and frankly it's looking to be a landslide after Trump's cringingly fascist speech last night.
You missed the rest hotrod, keep reading, there is more addressing the point in case you weren't that person. The whole "i don't know who the fuck you are cause no IDs" thing.
I meant I read a few different articles. And I fully accept that cyber attacks are real and a threat. Gotta keep them facebooks afloat. And everyone's money is digital now. I get that. I'm just saying we can't put boots on the ground or drones in the air with the intent to kill other people just because Ivan made his way into a server. I understand that it could escalate into shit like that but the initial act shouldn't result in anything more than our computer guys hacking their shit right back and bricking their digital infrastructure. You know we could.
You can only ignore facts for so long.
Also, lol at a post on 4chan being a stunt to get libs not to vote. Did someone forget their medication today?
If Ivan hacks the server, then Russia is responsible.
Any citizen of any country is culpable to its own country's laws, and international law.
The UN guarantees that countries who are attacked have the right to retaliate.
>Is she fucking mentally ill.
Yes.She is damned near a zombie, being propped up by handlers and drugs, saying anything she's told for the stupidest and callowest of short term political reasons.
>frankly it's looking to be a landslide after Trump's cringingly fascist speech last night.
You didn't even listen, you deceitful leftard faggot bitch. Don't even pretend you did. You assholes are too intellectually lazy and arrogant to listen to the other side. You just assume you're right, everyone who disagrees with you is a stupid racist, and go through your lives in a fucking echo chamber. It's pathetic.
seems like you're really not interested in a dialogue. do you think you're being so aggressive because you're being confronted with ideas that don't jive with yours? it can cause something called 'cognitive dissonance' where you realize that the information you're receiving is a fact, but a deeply held belief that you already have conflicts with it and causes you to experience mental duress. there's nothing shameful about it, what's more shameful is to pretend it isn't happening. That's how you get really fucked up adults, which I assume (hope) you're not yet.
Where did I say they didn't? I'm just saying if we went to war every time we got found out on some shady shit we were doing we'd constantly be at war with he other super powers.
I'm not even that guy, I'm just commenting on what I perceive to be arrogant emotions trying to act superior against an opponent that really doesn't seem to care enough to listen.
Of course I'm right.
You're butthurt that liberals change things you don't like through voting, so you pull the predictable cringefest of an "argument" that voting doesn't matter? Jesus fucking Christ how many more posts do you need your ass utterly handed to you as I've been doing?
Make another shitty post faggot doubling down on your cringing repressive faggotry. By all means.
An attorney in 1975 uses some dirty tricks to get a child rapist off for raping a 12 year old girl. And the lawyer is none other than....
Has he? He's kept his platform more local, focusing on keeping ISIS and illegals out and ending offshoring while repealing and replacing Obamacare. The most comparably extreme thing he said was his deportation task force so from what I can tell, no.
I think attacking the gooks is the only fucking language they understand. If I were president Id fucking attack anybody who fucking looked at us wrong, let alone hacked my secret files. America is still the only superpower and there are dozens of wolves waiting on our fall, I would fight hard and cruel to keep what control we have. Hilary is a dog and a piece of shit but this is at least what the typical American should feel, fuck with us and ours and we will watch your fucking skin peel from 20,000 ft. Try us we do this shit daily, killing is automated now, your wars are a fucking game to us.
I don't care. If you're really that naive to glom on to what a bunch of paranoid right-wing teenagers are posting in here in opposition to my remarks, then you also have some serious issues. If you're going to be this kind of faggot for the rest of the thread, kindly fuck off. I have no use for this.
Did they actually catch Guccifer? I think this is fake
That isn't an argument, that is just you making a statement and not backing it up. Watch.
Clinton is wrong.
Equally weighted without anything backing it, but if you actually read, you will see the argument and you can't argue back, cause you are dumb.
I hear her campaign is trying to blame the Russians for the DNC hack because of the metadata they found that was all in Russian. Something about implicating Trump being in bed with Putin or something.
Our country seems to.
>Oh shit, we gotta go to Somalia!
>Oh shit, we gotta help the Serbs!
>Oh shit, 9/11 happened, we gotta kill Al-Qaeda!
>Oh shit, we need to put boots on the ground in [insert country here]
Hackers told dems how to keep from upsetting the fragile BLM members (who are on the verge of destroying a city near you for killing violent black criminals...)
funny as fuck, I can't stop laughing
There is nothing in Clinton's remarks to suggest there would be military action every time an incident occurred.
All you faggots do is talk shit. And then you get mad when adults call you out.
My point exactly, why so condescending, anon? You know these guys are here to fuck with you and you're losing a chess match by thinking with your heart. You didn't even read my post and proved me right. What makes you think you're so better if you don't mind my asking? Inquiring minds want to know.
I want to see this woman's medical records. I have some friends who went to her rally a while back and they basically said that she is clear and coherent when reading her lines, but as soon as she was done she was surrounded by aides and being rushed out. Apparently when there was nothing else to read she looked really confused while trying to leave the stage, and she was doing a lot of senseless mumbling.
Damn right. Russia is one of Hillary's biggest customers with the fattest bribes. That innocent angel meant we off to paint a plane for them or something.
The irony is you don't. You cherry picked my example of your failure, only reversed to show the stupidity of it, then took another thing out of context to make a new argument. Textbook definition.
oh so you mean you voted for clinton?
>caring about Patriots
That's the point
It's fucking unimportant if someone is "un-American"
It's nothing bad to be "un-American"
It's only bad if you are a retard that wants to kill people
No dipshit. A "strawman," since you don't know what it is, 12 year old, would be if I made it look like you believed something you didn't.
In this case, you simply don't know how to construct arguments, period, and act like a fucking faggot when called out on it.
That isn't a "strawman" you trolling dipshit faggot.
i'm not either of the people you were talking to, but given the rest of the posts you've made in this thread, i don't expect you'll believe me.
you're also this guy, so probably 12
>USA uses "military response"
>Sits in bases in neighboring countries
>China pushes soldiers to the front
>Has a quick circle jerk
>Quick circle jerk turns into an extended circle jerk, except now joined by Russia and North Korea wants in on some gay loving
>Eurocucks feel jelly of the gay homo jer-off so they go sit in the middle
>Nothing else happens for a few more years
>Economy of USA and China collapses
>Eurocucks autoerotically asphyxiate themselves in the excitement
>NK becomes new world super power
You wanted Justin Trudeau, why wouldn't you want more people in favor of greater government control?
No you're another butthurt faggot who can't handle what Clinton said and made a beeline for the poster who agreed with it.
Do not reply to any more of my posts. If you do, you are an assbleeding faggot. It's that simple.
you're a terrible shill there, kiddo, and that is why you'll never get you 15/hr welfare wage
Well I hope not. Btw I may be for trump, but I am a rational adult. I haven't called names or made rash insinuations. I am just giving my opinion based on the multiple articles I've read. I have different reasons for being for trump than what is being discussed here. Different reasons for disliking Hillary.
I did, misrepresenting an argument so to make it easier for you to argue, which is what you did. My actual argument was that you can't just make a claim and not back it up. Earlier before that I explained why you can't just go and attack people for hacks, especially china and russia as we do it to them all the time, so we would get it returned and we can't hold up to 2 superpower level countries being up our ass.
Agree with what, exactly? I've been a passive observer and have not said a single thing until I noticed how poorly you managed your argument. Truly anon, you should not get so worked up over the internet.
and yet you keep replying
it's like you have an infinite supply of lulz to milk
You should at least have the decency to care about your country enough to defend it rather than running away like a scared roach. Maybe things wouldn't be so bad if you actually did something instead of complained.
oh yea you're really handing my ass to me over TCP/IP
post again lolcow
I couldn't help but notice your conspicuous lack of an argument proving me wrong and exonerating yourself from being a faggot. I can only assume that this means that you are indeed conceding that you are a faggot.
I think this guy thinks we're all the same person. I'm this guy
I just want to be as informed as possible before making an informed conclusion. Like I said. I have different reasons for disliking Hillary than are being discussed here.
this is you telling people to 'shut up' on the internet for almost two hours
what do you have to say for yourself to explain this cornucopia of autism?