>new YouTube terms might put talentless hacks like boogie and Philip DeFranco off the site and force them to actually help society
fuck off, boogie might be whining about his problems on twitter all the time but he still seems like a really chill dude.
Why don't you try getting 3.5 million subs being fat as fuck.
YouTube terms are being updated, potentially closing alot of channels deemed as "unoriginal content" so "news channels" would be the first to go
Stay mad that your virtual celebrity friends will be btfod as they deserve
It doesn't actually matter if you dislike certain youtubers, this change is gonna fuck the whole fucking site over. Everything not up to par to this new policy will be just demonetized, meaning a lot of people wont be able to create content anymore. Simply putting a bad word in the title or swearing in the video might be enough for the video to get flagged. We are seeing a massive censorship.
Who gives a fuck what these people with a camera and bandwidth?
I swear day by day we are being told what we can or cannot do as humans and its fucking pathetic.
I know something you can do, you even get a choice.
You can fuck right off you dirty wank slobber.
I would prefer you fuck right off but you have a choice what since that was you bitchin for
hey you fucking retarded intelligent neckbearded fatass....this is your opportunity to shine.....Call it TainTube -youtube, the way is used to be, onry beta...I mean bettah better! u fucking knuckledragging trap hating shitstayne
It is censorship though. Sure the video would be still up but if youtubers can't monetize it they might be not able to sustain themself anymore by creating content. And only because youtube obviously wants to make their platform into a giant hugbox where no bad things are said that could possibly hurt advertisers.
You telling me that any songs with swearing will be demonetized? That's horseshit. They would more likely add tags or restrictions on videos that have swearing or sensitive content rather than completely demonetizing them.
>youtube owned by international megacorporation Google
>being surprised that they want to coddle advertisers
>thinking YT cares about the people who provide content to them for free that YT can exploit
Absolute Free speech is usually a bad thing, honestly. Free speech destroys conservative values which is the only thing that progresses society. Absolute Free speech results in shit like filthy frank, child porn, sjw shit.
> I don't watch TV those fucking hollywood types are such a fucking drain on society they should get real jobs.
This is what you sound like.
It's pretty low quality bait.
Also I'm fucking laffing that ya'll niggers apparently ain't heard about this till fucking boogie, like a whole damn day late to the party, puts up a video about it. Kek.
You should kill yourselves, the internet consists of more than just /b/ you worthless piece of shit. :^)
I don't understand. Does YouTube fail to grasp the concept of target audiences? People watching videos with swearing etc would probably be more inclined towards more mature advertisements, whereas children's videos would have children's advertisements.
Why make advertisements universal rather than tailoring them to viewers based on viewing preference?
Did you have a concussion? do you need help man?
YouTube is adding policies that in forefront, look like theyd help the community, but in all actuality, the main goal is to have a tighter grip on everyones channel, and be able to SJW police the entire site 10 fold. They genuinely couldnt give a fuck less about quality, its all about narcissistic SJW wanting another control method over people.
It's gonna bite them in the ass in the long run. Youtube is nothing without its creators. And when everybody, especially huge channels, speak about this situation, they might be forced to change something about this retarded new policy.
At least that's what i hope.
Buttmad cause you could never make it. Making a living on YT is no different than making TV shows and Movies. All Ad revenue slave.
YouTube is paying 20 different kids to get new release technology to destroy, everyone wants to make money off their own shit commentary of them playing a game, most of it slackjawed mouth breathing, 50,000 couples doing fake pranks on each other every other day
I'd be pissed if I was shelling out cash to losers to get that kind of shit too.
Absolute Free speech, freedom of expression I.e. no limits and no boundaries does result in shit like that, yes. If it was a "normal"thing, like any other thing that is shunned under otherwise social circumstance, it would be much more popular.
I don't seem to understand.
Youtube is private company.
Aren't they allowed to do whatever the fuck they pretty much want (within the parameters of the law) with their terms and conditions?
They will certainly only look after what makes them money, and they owe NOTHING to viewers, integrity, content creators etc...
>Never make it
Never tried, friend, I sought a career after high school instead of living in my parents basement uploading videos of myself for strangers.
>That feel when your dainty moisturized hand crumbles under the weight of my calluses as you offer your four fingers instead of a handshake
>My wife's panties getting wet when she smells the stink of hard work on me that lets her stay at home every day with our son
>Build shit, gets used, feel proud
>Average YT "Heeeeeeyyyy whatsupguys faggot here with another...." piece of garbage getting paid to fuck off.
You do realize that youtube is actually a music platform with a small side business hosting fun videos right? Look at the numbers man. What the biggest 10 content creators pull in means nothing next to the music. They don't care and have no incentive to care.
That's the pill with the greatest of bitterness in this whole equation.
Youtube has no fucking competitors.
That's all we need, one single worthwhile competitor to youtube, and this shit would evaporate overnight.
But either no ones taken a chance or their shit is getting so drowned out in the ME!ME!ME! of it all, basically we're fucked.
Besides youtube is owned by google. And google owns the fucking internet. I highly doubt google would even allow competition.
>look theres someone earning money with creating content that actually interests people. They shouldn't be allowed to while I still fail at life.
But it is. It's a shit music platform don't get me wrong but the veiw counts don't lie dumb ass millenial scum "watch" so much music on the service it's the vast majority of their business.
Strongly disagree. The money led to content creators putting real effort and and I get more entertainment from youtube than my cable box now. Particularly in the real of automotive "jurnalism" the content available on YT is vastly superior to anything ever on tv.
This has been a problem with Google for a couple of years now, it seems the puritanical mindset is spreading to their other properties. For years Google allowed you to search for porn so long as safe search was turned off, but two years ago they made 'moderate' search filtering standard, with an even more restrictive option the only alternative. It doesn't seem to make economic sense, as the sort of people who would boycott a search engine simply for ALLOWING users to access adult material if they wished are an extreme minority.
YouTube has been fucking with content creators for some time now. The big one came when they changed their recommendations algorithm, making it so that you get suggested videos based entirely on your search history, rather than the video you're currently watching. That put a lot of monetised channels out of business. This seems like an even more malicious move on their part. It would appear that there are elements who view the free speech revolution the internet has brought as a sort of Pandora's Box that should never have been opened. Most mainstream news sites have taken down comments sections, to the cheers of SJWs and religious wingnuts, but to the consternation of most people.
The really sad thing is that sites like Facebook and YouTube are monopolies at this point. It's hard to imagine challengers coming anywhere close to their numbers any time soon, so they feel empowered to do authoritarian shit like this with impunity.
No i think youtube should just be a platform.
The content creators should handle finding advertising that way, the youtubers have more controll and can get more money.
This way you dont have to constantly worry about fair use and copywriting.
My apologies to you, holder of the fedora.
Here, here. YouTube is the best thing that's happened to the internet this century. It's given a platform to so many talented, deserving people who'd have otherwise struggled to find an audience. Thirty years ago someone like Carl Benjamin or Phil Mason would have been stuck writing letters to the editor of small town newspapers. Now there's a video sharing site that allowed content creators to connect with viewers on a purely meritocratic basis. Every time the (((merchants))) on the business end of things decide to fuck with that system, free speech on the site suffers. This is going to make people with popular channels scared to go after controversial subjects. The entire point of having independent media not beholden to News Corp of Clear Channel is to get information and perspectives that aren't tailored to what shareholders want people to hear.
That's what happens when one company has monopoly on a certain service. They can do what they want because they know that there are no competitors.
Is there any service that's compareable to youtube? No.
There's tons of competition, but it's pointless basically because as you said, Google own's the fucking world at this point.
Even if you somehow made a similar site and it started to miraculously take off, you'd be forced to take Google's buyout or you'd probably be assassinated.
Not sure I'd go that far. While I absolutely love some of the channels I sub I still get more minutes of entertainment from netflix. If anyone is the new tv it's netflix. I would be pretty upset to see some of my YT subs loose money and disappear though. I can think of 2 or 3 subs going that would cause me to stop my red payment immediately.
Oooo this will get em! Ya!
>there are still people that think that intersectional feminists and SJW bigots can and should just be ignored
Fuck music. People whose primary source of recreation is listening to music are invariably idiots. Whether it's moronic rap, moronic pop, or moronic dad rock/metal/aspie techno, it's mindless entertainment for simpletons possibly even worse than video games.
The thing is.
Youtube aren't saying you can't create your content.
The only time this would be censorship is if they said "we don't allow you to post this, and if you do, we'll remove your account".
What they said was "you can't post things against our guidelines if you want to make money from them".
They're still allowed to post the video.
I disagree. The monitization of youtube encouraged laziness, now we have a millions Let's Play channels and nothing new or creative. It's all about the money. I'd kill for another SFOC
this dude here, I'd love to be friends with and being a fucking disabled /b/tard, would def be a great sidekick...he's probably the same age as my son.
As an adult I have a credit card. Someone has to pay for the content or it won't end up on the torrents for you to watch poorfag. I do love the pretend fairy land you guys live in where everything is free and people still put hours and hours of labor into creating content for your pleasure.
Hell, I'm jealous of people who can make a living off of YouTube too. But I'm not such a sad little faggot that I act all sour grapes about it like you. I'm grateful that smart, talented people are out there producing videos that educate, enlighten, and entertain. From Red Letter Media to Shoe0nHead, my leisure time benefits from their output, and I'm happy that they're able to earn a living from it.
pretty fucking idiotic analogy, faggot
>covered under free speech
Lol no. They are a business not a government, and the moment you beg to have social media sites labeled as utilities is the moment i find you and kill you.
Those channels suck. But none of the content I sub change to that format. That format was simply added to the mix and I don't watch it. Name something you lost due to monetization instead of just pointing at things you don't like. I really don't see the problem. I never see that crap as I only look at my subs.
There are a couple of YT channels and podcasts I've supported on Patreon or whathaveyou when I've had a good year in my financial life, but that's not really a viable alternative to having ad supported content. I'd have probably never even discovered any of the people I've personally supported if their stuff was behind a paywall.
If YT were banning content it would be censorship.
Instead they're allowing content but not allowing monetisation.
People seem to forget, YT don't HAVE to make content creation profitable for people.
>this must be covered under free speech, no?
No it actually doesn't. A private company can kick you off just because they don't like the shape of your nose or for no reason at all. You have no lawful right to be granted access to a service.
Limiting of free speech is only illegal when government does it. And this makes censorship by private pressure groups even worse than governmental censorship, because against government you have constitutional rights.
I think local news reporters deserve all of what they get and then some. They hardly ever fucking sleep at all and are always on call in case some shit pops off.
YouTubers need to get over themselves and maybe start looking at putting in applications for employment soon.
Listen to that poem read by it's actual author- it will give you chills.
Never appreciated it until I heard him do it.
Pretty good tbh. You can have your warped veiw but if the tiny percentage of my income I pay for subscriptions benifits you as a bonus to my enjoyment I don't care. How's it feel to not be able to buy anything you want poorfag? Your like a bum eating the food I left on my plate from the garbage laughing about what a fool I am for buying it hot and fresh for myself.
but don't you think it's a bit ridiculous that they're pushing away people with inflammatory opinions? it's another form of control and i get what you mean with the internet not being considered a government utility. that should NEVER happen.
Child porn does not equal free speech.
Thats capitialism baby. Some venture capitialist needs to come around and make a new site and make it better. Nothing lasts forever. But youtube has made the content creators slaves to the views, so it makes it very hard to get people away from their platform. This is why i think youtube should never have monetized the business, and creators should have had free reign over advertisements.
Channels where it's just some faggot playing video games and yelling into the camera are retarded, if they were talking about just de-monetising those it would be fine. But the language they use strongly suggests that they'll be going after 'controversial' political/social commentary channels, and in 2016 that most likely means people who are critical of the SJW/feminist/Islam-appeasing media hegemony. This means that once-independent voices we have now are going to have to think twice before expressing their honest opinion, or even simply stating facts that the mainstream media doesn't like.
We need an alternative to YouTube. If this new measure's effects are as bad as people think, a bloc of content creators should publicly close their accounts and start a competitor site, where the T&C's give a high priority to upholding freedom of speech.
"If the video does contain inappropriate content, the context is usually newsworthy or comedic and the creator’s intent is to inform or entertain (not offend or shock)."
There, that is every single one of them, from boogie to AVGN to even TJ Sotomayor.
Fucking dumbasses. It says RIGHT IN PLAIN ENGLISH, in the simplest fucking non-lawyer speak way, that none of those channels or their videos will be affected by this.
>Fucking dumbasses. It says RIGHT IN PLAIN ENGLISH, in the simplest fucking non-lawyer speak way, that none of those channels or their videos will be affected by this.
Which is also why bing and google don't bring back anything for results when searching this. The only people even talking about it are all in this thread.
Speaking of which.
I'm glad yer happy with your income level. I hope to break 6 figures this tax season and pay my house off next year. I also have pride in what I do so if collecting some portion of the 14k or so I payed in taxes last year is good enough for you then enjoy it.
>we need another Youtube
Agreed, but let's talk about those channels you've described. I know what you're talking about, and overall I agree with their message, but have you seen their fanbases? They are just as bad as SJWs. I have a friend that got into this crap, he obsesses with it, never stops talking about the SJW menace and feminists. He comes off like a total sperg. Not just him, but everyone involved with it. Both sides are equally rabid and stupid. I don't like either of them.
Let me correct it for retards that don't know how to read in context.
Sexually suggestive content, including partial nudity and sexual humor
>with the intent to offend or shock
Violence, including display of serious injury and events related to violent extremism
>with the intent to offend or shock
Inappropriate language, including harassment, profanity and vulgar language
>with the intent to offend or shock
Promotion of drugs and regulated substances, including selling, use and abuse of such items
>with the intent to offend or shock
Controversial or sensitive subjects and events, including subjects related to war, political conflicts, natural disasters and tragedies, even if graphic imagery is not shown
>with the intent to offend or shock
>We need an alternative to YouTube.
And Twitter. And Facebook. And Google. ect
In conventional media you could just open your own channel and government would have to grant you access to frequency/channels of distribution, all you needed was money and/or enough support.
In company controlled new economy media you are completely subject to the whim of the plattform owners - or fall below the noise when you have to escape to some niche channel or your own plattform.
Well, what would you say to someone who says they agree with some arbitrary SJW ideal or message? Like when someone posts something about, I dunno, rape culture or something on Twitter? Most of 4chan will label them feminists or SJWs. So for most of 4chan, yeah, I would say guilt by association. And the point I was more trying to get across was that those channels are cancer and should be wiped as well.
There are countries where creditcards are still not usual, like most European countries. Not even all wealthy people have creditcards because you mostly don't need them. And people won't get a card just to watch a video then and when.
>Both sides are equally rabid and stupid. I don't like either of them.
Well as you see now with Youtube these that warned about the growning SJW influence on companies had a point. It is annoying but we ignored them for too long while they occupied positions in universities, administration offices, companies and media.
Yet I know of several broadcast journalists on local news in my area that make well into the six-figure range. And they actually have to put effort into their job instead of vlogging like a fucking idiot like Charles Trippy does or like that misogynistic cuck DeFranco. Stop drooling over these fucking content creators as if they're our overlords. They're not. They're idiots that got lucky.
I have lost my home before and have had the media try and come and ask what happened. Guess what my family did? We told the police and investigators to tell them to fuck the fuck off and respect our privacy. And they did.
so I hope this means an end to the amazing atheist and other NEETS that make a living off of their edgy opinion, I hope next they ban react videos and let's plays that have commentary. YouTube is fucking cancer, I try to look up a tutorial for something and then BOOM a billion furfag or retarded gameplay videos come up because of a keyword.
I especially hope they reserve a special place in hell for poketubers
Free speech does not equal to SJW
Free speech equals to something like /pol/ or /b/ where you are allowed to say whatever te fuck you want with no consequences. You're a dumb bitch btw
no....ples....it's the only thing keeping me going....
the way i see it they are being demonitzed for putting certain tags in their videos. So just stop doing that... they just kicking up a fuss about it so there can be loasa 'youtube drama' and all the boring cunts will have something inane to talk about for ten minutes...again
I do what i want. you do not.....therefore, I, kek last & loudest & bestie/trump/wallstreet style. your dime, your time/dress code/rules of the work place...i remember when...
>Someone said something on Youtube I didn't like
>they shouldn't be allowed to
>Someone had success with his attempt in entertaining people
>they shouldn't be allowed to
You are sort of edgy ain't you?
People who actually care about fags on you tube.
I use youtube to watch fucking music videos and video game trailers/help. Fuck all these people with millions of subs.
"I made thousands of dollars for saying something that pissed a bunch of people off yay me"
Yt started as a site for people to share their everyday lives with the world. A little glimpse of 'real life'.
It came out in a confusing time, tv was still king, Internet was gaining steam, etc.
The ads came in, and subs started, and it just turned into a new platform like tv.
Then it got all fucked up when the music industry stepped in. Now it's just tv with a shit ton of useless videos an some good ones.
I'm gonna branch off to another thing i hate.
Who in the FUCK would give someone on twitch money. Jesus Christ.
You suck that bad at video games you need to watch some fagget play it and describe it. Then you send them money. Like wtf.
I remember watching a few wow players back in the day who were on twitch. People lined up in game to give them gold like they were cool or something. Bunch of fags if you ask me.
P.S. Try again NIGGER pic very related.
Advertisers don't want their advertisements to be on controversial videos; for example Mountain Dew doesn't want its shit promoted on a fedora tier neck beard video about transgendered feminazis
Yep. They'd go under if they refuse enough of the market. Also you can refuse to shop at places with policies you don't like. If for some reason everyone stopped selling to blondes and you where a blonde you could either whine about it like a looser or see the oprotunity to have a blonde only store and make millions. This whole slippery slope argument of yours is ridiculous though. big companies intrested in making money would never turn away a significant percentage of their business.
I do what I want. I like my job and I like being able to do stuff that costs money. You assume I'm forced to work for some reason. I could sit home and collect welfare just as easy as you. I choose not to. The fact that I make a different choice than you doesn't mean I have no choice. I have no debt outside of my home and it's 80% paid for. I have enough in the bank to pay it off if I wear to wish to have no savings and liquidate my investments. Alternatively I could sell it keep the equity and live better than you not working for a decade or so. But I'm clearly the looser here what with more options to make more choices than you.
>Who in the FUCK would give someone on twitch money. Jesus Christ.
Idiots, people with too much money, fanboys-- who cares?
The real question of interest is, why do you care that much about someone earning money with something more or less stupid? Are you really that edgy? Get a life, chap.
It promotes degeneracy and a society that is lethargic and unmotivated, everyone now expects people to give hand outs via kickstarter etc from Internet strangers so that they can pay the rent and buy horse dildos
If you can't figure out how to pay for netflix you are underage or poor. Credit cards has little to do with it. The original post was complaining about a pay wall he couldn't figure his way around. Some eurotrash idiot made it about credit cards. Also in America you are underage and poor if you don't have one. They practically hand them out like candy if you so much as hold a minimum wage job for 4 weeks.
Dude take your tumblr pics and suck a dick.
I fucking hate boogie so I hope this shit wrecks him... Not enough to make him quit all together but enough to make him so desperate that he just becomes even more of a sad clown that works for pennies.
>It promotes degeneracy and
so? your point of concern...?
Who cares?...youtube is gay and is for idiots you dumbasses. If you think its so lame that they are changing things and creating a site you don't enjoy anymore then just don't suppor them. Wow, what a concept...stop making money for assholes. I know, its amazing
>implying that is a problem
Who cares? They arent stealing your money, they dont tell you how to spend your money. Why do you care?
>doesnt understand what the word content means
>omg someone saved a gif from tumblr
He has a point, just because it doesn't affect you directly right now doesn't mean it won't later. Isn't that the whole point of this thread? Because the sjw boogeyman is gonna get everyone someday?
People still share glimpses of their life. That part of youtube didn't go away. I still don't see what was lost. Stuff was added and you don't like the added junk...don't watch the added junk. You can still upload for free a "vlog' or just a funny/entertaining video you took free of charge. All the money did was add incentive for some good content and some shills. I for one like the good content and ignore the shills for the most part. That said the video overveiw of every product ever has been useful when shooping even if I would never sub a shill channel.