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How do you feel about the recent rise in popularity for the Flat Earth theory?
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>>702056306
I expect retardation of this level from people so I feel nothing.
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>>702056306
I find it interesting that its rise exactly parallels the HiIlary Clinton would make a good president theory.
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>>702056723
Do you EVER get tired of talking in circles about politics?
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>>702056306
the flat earth is trash from an ignorant people.


The cell earth is the true nature of the univers
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>>702056306
People are finally waking up. I've known it was flat for years. If you round earthers are so sure it's round go fly a plane over Antarctica and film it. Oh gee wait you can't because the government will stop you from going anywhere near it. But yeah that's just for your "protection"
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>>702057395
No, it's for Antarctica's protection, it's a delicate environment.
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>>702056306

It rises faster than my dick and thats kind of depressing.
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>>702056306
there's literally no evidence for it
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>>702057395
Please be bait.
Heh, that's for flat earthers as a whole actually, too
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the fact that there's no edge and that day/night wouldn't be possible if it was flat disproves it handily
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ALL I WANT TO FUCKING KNOW

IS IF THE EARTH IS FLAT

HOW FAR DO I HAVE TO DIG TO FALL OUT THE BOTTOM???

I WANT TO FALL OUT THE BOTTOM OF EARTH
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>>702057395
>I've known
imagination =/= knowledge
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>>702057678
It's not b8 you literally cannot prove its not flat and the only way you can prove its not just so happens to be under strict lockdown? Wow definitely nothing suspicious about that huh
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>>702057919
there's countless easy ways to disprove it
you can do it without any effort
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>>702057395
Why would you need to fly over Antarctica?
Logically if the earth was flat you could literally just fly in any direction and you would come to the edge.
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>>702057919
There are various mathematical proofs that don't require going to Antartica. Of course, morons couldn't understand them, and that's why they believe in flat earth. Greeks knew the world was round before 400BC
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>>702058139
Not if we are on a circular plane with Antarctica as the perimeter.
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>>702058497
Planes aren't circular.
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>>702057395
>known
>an unsupported myth with no evidence
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>>702058139
Coriolis effect.
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>>702058648
What?
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>>702057609
This
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>>702058600
Yeah because the round earth theory has soo much supporting evidence
>>702058572
Yes they are they are called circular planes retard
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>>702056929
How does it even?
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>>702058781
Yes, it does have massive amounts of proof and evidence.
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>>702058902
Then please post irrefutable proof please and I'll shut up
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>>702058781
>circular planes
I also make shit up to prove made up theories
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>>702058781
>still hasn't shown a scrap of evidence for his "claim" and takes shots at the opposing one instead
That's either a troll or a retard, or both.
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How do seasons work on a flat earth?
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>>702059067
Day/night cycle could only happen as we observe it on a round earth.
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>>702059094
Yeah like the round earth theory?
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>>702059094
What part of plane with circular perimeter doesn't make sense?
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>>702058902
A bunch of people saying the same shit over and over doesn't make it true.
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>>702059125
It's a troll, and a weak one at that, surprised anyone is falling for it
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If the earth was flat how would there be day and night
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>>702059226
Yes, that's why the flat earth claim is bullshit, thanks for pointing that out.
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Here's the deal: there are two types of Flat Earthers: trolls, and literal Bible interpreters. Somewhat surprisingly, we usually encounter the latter on /b/. They have the freedom to make shit up (lie) because truth and understanding are not their goals, and they end the arguments with "prove me wrong." By disavowing any science put forward and continuing to make shit up, they "win" by attrition. It is simply impossible to keep up with having to explain away the barrage of the violations of the most basic principles of geometry, math, science, and logic. They aren't interested in critical thinking or putting in the requisite effort to do the science. Proofs are tossed aside, or they may not even respond when they can't fabricate anything that would pass even their own red-faced test. They are blind to 3D visualualization. They concentrate on believing what their leaders tell them, and will not allow any sense to mar their fractured perception of the universe. There is simply no arguing. It's like trying to paint over mud. You just end up with a dirty brush.
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>>702059208
How deep is the ocean?
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>>702056306
Has pushed back space exploration and the progress of science for at least another decade.

>Incidentally, this rise in popularity coincides with Trump's popularity.
>inb4correlationdoesnotimplycausation
>implying
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There was a serious discussion about autism on another thread. It dawned on me that Flat-Earthers (FEs) fit the description of being autistic exactly. Here are some salient extracts:
>The thing about autism is they cannot read other people, they live in their own world. So, oblivious that no one gives two shits what they have to say, they continue their monologue until you literally run away.
>Autism seldom comes on its own; usually there are other mental problems, and these can be an indicator.
For instance, they may have been in "special" classes, or disgnosed with ADD, or loved ones desperately smile and shrug off awkward conversations/situations and the autists does not recognize situational discomfort.
This behavior is particularly consistent among FE arguments:
>I really really find it difficult to change my opinions, even when the other person is factually correct. For instance, I once argued with a teacher till 6 PM over the correct, or at least effectively correct, use of parentheses. I'm still convinced I was right.
>Not all autistic people actually understand autism. They may have gotten a simplified and inaccurate description of what it is. Also, they may be so high functioning that they feel like it'd just be better if everyone was like them. Straight forward, overt, blunt. Very high functioning people often don't like to think of their difficulties as defects, but due to failures of normal people to be more transparent.
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>Flat earth theory
>2016
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>>702059243
Hurr I can't refute anything he says better just call him a troll!
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>>702056481
/thread
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If the Earth was flat and the Sun hovered above it and moved in a great circle around the pole, you would see a difference in motion most marked at times of rise and set. Place yourself on the equator during the equinox. At rise, the Sun would appear somehow and from north of the equator, with movment to the right/south (following its circular path), its horizontal motion diminshing over the course of the morning. As it reached overhead (Noon) it would be moving most quickly and straight east-west. After Noon it would appear to slow down and begin its drift right (north), and farther along it loses the vertical movement (never setting) while gaining the drift to the right and magically disappearing.

That of course, is not what we see. The Sun rises due east, transits straight up, and sets due west all at a constant angular speed all along its path, which is apparently straight up, over, and down, because in this geometry you (not a distant pole) are at the center of a circle it appears to trace.

Also, a close-proximity Sun would increase in brightness from invisible at "rise" to its brightest at Noon and back again to invisible at "set" in the course of one day. The graph of the intensity of the received light would vary by the square of the distance of the Sun. This means the increase/decrease in brightness would vary most radically around Noon. Again, we don't see that. We see the Sun remain more or less constant in brightness during the day, with a good accounting (and weather-dependent) for its dimming when near the horizon due to atmospheric opacity.
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>>702059067
Video and photo proof of the round planet?
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>>702059380
Hella
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>>702059413
TL;DR
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>>702058648
Kek
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>>702059523
I notice you didn't reply to any of the posts actually posting shit that refutes flat earth.
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>>702056306
i like it
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>>702056481
First post best post
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>>702056306
Everyone who believes it should be purged immediately.
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>>702059174
Anyone?
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>>702058497
So where is the arctic? In the middle?

And considering Antarctica has been circumnavigated, thousands of scientists have been there and you can pay for flights over it it's pretty obvious your wrong.
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>>702058572
>Plane
>n. A flat level or surface

Are you stupid?
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>>702059571
>Video and photo proof of the round planet?

It's not very nice to ask for something you know darned well you'll dismiss as "CGI" or "PhotoShop."
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>>702059627
>fuck it
Bump
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>>702058648
Coriolis erect needs the earth to be a spinning sphere to do
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>>702056306
I think it should be used to weed out retards who believe it
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GO BACK TO GLP YOU FUCKING NUTJOBS!
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>>702059523
see >>702059298
>>702059184
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>>702059408
So what you're saying is that people who start following Trump go through an indoctrination ritual in which they are taught Flat Earth and deny any other theory?
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>>702058648
There would be no Coriolis effect if the earth was flat and not rotating.
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>>702059639
You never will. The intent of a FE is to make noise. Like a very bad rock band, they hope the level of nose made will convince the listener they're right.
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>>702059488
>It's [the current year] and someone doesn't agree with me. I mean, come on, it's [the current year]!
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>>702056306
This horseshit is SPREADING?
In that case, very concerned for humanity.
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>>702059868
No, he's saying people who follow Trump are the sort of people who disregard facts and knowledge in favor of loud feelings.
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>>702059380
Not very at the edges. Very in the middle
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>>702057395
You do understand that antarctica doesn't have a government do you?
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b.o.b is right.

no one knows how the fuckin earth looks like and nasa is too unreliable to provide any true factual insight
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>>702059366
Underrated post
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>>702056306
>recent rise in popularity
kek
dream on, faggot

>sage goes in all fields
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>>702060052
Well that's not really true, but ok. It's a little bit more complex than that
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>>702060128
Except people have flown cameras of their own into low orbit to take pictures of video of the earth.

No NASA required.
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>>702059909
>>702059835
That is the point. If it were flat and not spinning then you would need to adjust left and right for shots east to west, not north to south.
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>>702060052
Also has the least amount of niggers
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>>702059868
Basically this>>702060003
This year seems to be the "Year of the Fucking Retard" for some reason; people are believing dumb shit, following dumb shit, doing dumb shit, and dying for dumb reasons.
>he didn't hold the door open for me
>gotta shoot him for that disrespect
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>>702056306
There has not been a rise in anything and how can there be a theory about flat earth when there is proof otherwise? There aint theory about jack shit.
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>>702059982
Doesn't matter what year, but it so happens in 2016 we do have the technology to easily look things up. You don't. Your minister tells you the Bible says, "Flat Earth," and you cannot disobey your minister because he is the authority figure in your life and you're incapable of thinking on your own.
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Flat earthers are a thing that confuse me greatly. We have a space station and cameras in space. What do flat earthers say when they see the cameras in space?

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-iss-stream
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My soda is flat, yet the can is round. How can this be?
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>>702060229
Good enough for me
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>>702060128
>no one knows how the fuckin earth looks like and nasa is too unreliable to provide any true factual insight

Hurr-durr denying facts because it doesn't fit your idea of truth.
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>>702058781
>hurr no evidence fur globe
Even if that were true, just because a competing theory has no evidence doesn't mean that yours is true.
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>>702060229
>penguins are black with white spots
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If the earth is flat why don't we got some pics from space edge on?
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>>702056306
There is no rise. Samefag just posts it over and over and over and over because fag.
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>>702059366
/thread
Dubs speak the truth
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>>702060466
But penguin ain't niggers dumbass
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>>702060280
>it's using a special kind of lens to make the earth look round
>I should know, I was there and God told me so
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>>702060280
They say the curvature of the Earth shown in the pics and videos is lens tricks. Not even joking.
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>>702059380
About three 'fiddy
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>>702060202
where? did we see a round globe?
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>>702060579
Maybe they are.
>be penguin
>be bird
>too lazy to bother learning to fly
>too lazy to walk properly
>just slide everywhere
>steal fish from whales instead of learning how to work the land
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>>702057919
I know this is bait, but you can literally see the curve of the earth if you just get high enough off the ground.

And the reason you can't fly over antartica is because the atmosphere and environment there is heavily guarded both for scientific reasons, and to protect the ozone there.
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>>702060028
So what keeps air in the planet if it's flat, it does have measurable density, it should press down against the plane and glide off past the circumferencing antarctica, leaving humans to suffocate and die.
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>>702060733
Yeah but would you cross the street to avoid a group of penguin?
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>>702060693
All over the place. It's hard for them to get high enough to see the curvature on amateur cams but it's obvious that it's there.
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>>702060280
this is a live stream? why is the earth rotating so fast
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>>702060831
The firmament obviosly
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>>702060831
I was talking about the ocean. That's water. That's a bit different.
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>>702060610
>>702060612

While that might be a compelling argument for a simple person, you can actually buy the equipment to send a weather balloon with your own camera tied to it and get it high enough to see the earth is round. It would only cost a few hundred dollars to make. People do it all the time.

Also we can see the space station go from one side to the other, and then come back from the opposite side around again.

There's just no logical reason why I'm thinking of all the ways to prove the earth is round instead of masturbating right now.
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>>702060857
They 'walk' in flocks, so...yes.
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>>702060693
in low orbit you can't see the curve of the earth but my point is it's a lie that we don't know what the earth looks like
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>>702060155
>Hurr durr its complex

Well your mom hasnt got a govt and still everyone seems to explore her
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>>702060733
>land
Stuff doesn't really grow on snow and ice
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>>702059865
Apparently this is the explanation. I forgot that this is a fucking idiotic idea of reality, not acknowledging things like how the sun and moon work, so apparently they're shiny balls that spin above earth. Apparently the sun has a downward facing directional, not omnidirectional light so it just shines down on certain parts of the earth. Literally denies how light and physics work. I don't know I went on the flat earth wiki and that's kind of just where they left it.
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>>702061161
That there's nigger-talk, son. I doubt you even tried.
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>>702059067
The moon appears upside down in the southern hemisphere.

Stars look completely different in different hemispheres, and appear to rotate in different directions depending on your latitude.

If the sun were moving over the earth in a circle, then it would appear to get brighter as it got higher in the sky. It doesn't; instead it appears to be the same luminosity throughout the day.

The eclipses.

Flights in the southern hemisphere don't take twice as long.
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>>702060933
>http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-iss-stream
>this is a live stream? why is the earth rotating so fast

Yes, it appears to be live. The Earth is not rotating any faster than normal. The motion you are seeing is from the ISS orbital speed (of about 18,000 mph). At that speed, the ISS circumnavigates the globe in about 90 minutes.
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>>702061108
Just because you're a pussy don't make penguin niggers
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>>702060933
Its the station thats revolving quickly, not the earth rotating.
>Since the station orbits the Earth once every 90 minutes, it experiences a sunrise or a sunset about every 45 minutes
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>>702060933

In order to stay in orbit, you have to move at 17,150 miles per hour, or else you'll fall and smash into the earth. It's moving that fast so it doesn't fall and smash into the earth.
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>>702061197
That model still doesn't account for
>seasons
>lunar phases
>waves
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>>702060959
<sarcasm>Yeah, "obviously."</sarcasm>
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>>702061103
>you can actually buy the equipment to send a weather balloon with your own camera tied to it
Oh they do this too. Ironically, they use lens tricks to hide the curvature of the Earth. Note the odd bending at the edge of this video as the balloon ascends:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMlLCKj85Ro
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How does this autism get replies every single time?
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>>702056306
This is when you know that Trump and Hillary are going for presidency.
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>>702061214
Can't say I have, I don't really like cold weather
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>>702061360
It had a short section on seasons that seemed like "sometimes the sun is closer and sometimes it is not". There is probably a section on waves but I just can't handle being on the wiki anymore
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>>702059185
Exactly. Thats why the flat earth is nonsense.
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Why do baseballs travel further in one cardinal direction than the other if the earth wasn't flat.
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>>702061289
>>702061332
>>702061339
ok i undrstand. i actually don't believe the earth is flat. but i think we should have WAY more evidence that it is round if it actually is round
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>>702056306
>Heavily forced meme
>"hurr durr, its popular"
You should be shot
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>>702060959
Which doesnt fall off because?
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>>702056813
>Do you EVER get tired of talking in circles about politics?
Yep, a liberal faggot
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>>702061197
Wow.
I knew the idea was fucking autistic, but this is a new level.
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>>702061716
Because G*d put it there.
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Flat Earthers are part of why I'm an atheist.
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I'm really curious what a flat earth person can come up with to combat this point.

How do you think we have GPS? How can you explain that technology - that is very reliable and used by hundreds of millions successfully - that happens to use satellites, which we can see using common cheap telescopes and orbit in a spherical path. What kind of bullshit can you make up to explain how GPS works?
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>>702061647
What kind of evidence are you looking for?
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>>702061647
Going to space isn't enough fucking proof?
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>>702061736
>liberal
>faggot

Pick only one.
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>>702059208
Because planes aren't circular, if they were they would look like ufo's.
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>>702057471
>No, it's for Antarctica's protection, it's a delicate environment.
Funny how liberals claim the earth is warming because of temperature changes in cities(i.e. where they record it). Its funny because, after 9/11 when all the planes were grounded, the temps fell by 1-3 degrees(lets assume F rather than C). Its even funnier when the fags acknowledge this fact by making it illegal to fly over Antarctica.
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>>702061891
I actually saw a video last night about it. They think they just bounce signals off the firmament. Feed your mind or something was the name of the channel
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>>702061647
Photos and videos aren't enough for you?

Mathematical proof that has been known for thousands of years isn't good enough for you?

The fact that you can see the curvature of the planet if you just get far enough off the ground isn't good enough for you?
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>>702061634
Baseball's don't travel they get thrown...yiure post implies they get on a train to the airport and book a flight to antartica but they can't because the penguin nigger government conspiracy changes all their passports from miles to kilometers and then steals the planes rims and kidnaps all the fat white women
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>>702062025
Why are you obsessed with "liberals"?
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>>702061647
Really? Whats wrong with the proof we already have?
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>>702061858
Atheism is as retarded as fucking with religion. There is no way in hell you know if there is a deity/universal source or not.
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>>702061647

Well there's lots of evidence it's round, but some people choose to ignore it. We've known for over a thousand years that it was round. Even if you claim ignorance to the obvious things like the seasons, the tides, the stars, the rotation, the sun and the moon, the differences above and below the equator, and all of those other things, we still have pictures in the 1960s of the earth from space.
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>>702061840
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>>702061360
Or even seeing the moon at daytime
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>>702062159
So you're saying you're not allowed to not believe in a evidence-free deity?
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>>702062159
It's more logical to assume that there isn't one than to assume that there is one.
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>>702061893
just concrete conclusive evidence. this all seems like theories rather than facts. im not that good mathematically but i would like legit evidence for the layman

>>702061947
eh, who knows what really happened
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>>702059669
Wouldn't the refraction of the light produced b a semi cylindrical atmosphere cause multiple halo like venus rings at all times?
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>>702062159
Then logically, there's no reason for me to dedicate my life to worshiping said entity, is there?
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>>702062310
>eh, who knows what really happened
Why exactly do you doubt that?
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>>702062025
>climate change
>liberals

I believe you pronounced "climate scientists" wrong.
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>>702062027
But we can literally see the satelites that we put into space with our bare eyes

Flat earth shit isn't ignorant, it's delusional insanity. The level of denial you have to be in goes beyond common stupidity, it's like, actually extremely mentally unhealthy.
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>>702062075
Baseball's what?
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>>702062310
>theories rather than facts

You fucking moron...
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>>702061647
>>702061647
This.
Think of the math needed to calculate this. They would have failed hard if they did their calculations wrong, because they were wrong about the size and shape of earth.

> gif too large
https://i.imgur.com/TUkKuhf.gif
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>>702062027
>I actually saw a video last night about it. They think they just bounce signals off the firmament. Feed your mind or something was the name of the channel

Please, oh please cite that web site so I can shred it.
>>702059366
... They have the freedom to make shit up (lie) because truth and understanding are not their goals, and they end the arguments with "prove me wrong." ...
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>>702062310
When a scientist uses the word "theory", it doesn't mean the same thing as the common english definition of "theory".

" A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world."
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>>702062327
There is no "atmosphere" as you're thinking it....what we call air actually permeates the entire universe. Again just a bunch of camera tricks and elaborate conspiracies
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>>702061840
And God couldn't make a round earth work? Why do you censor His name like profanity?
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Flat earth theory just proves how many dumb gullible people there are.

Right now a team of CIA agents are laughing their asses off that this actually took off.
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>>702057395
Why Antarctica? Can't you fly around to the east, go from Asian to America?
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>>702062382
because i have a scientific mind, i like to see and compare to make my own conclusions, and i dont have enough conclusive evidence to see that it is round. ive seen pictures of earth in a lot of different states, it LOOKS flat to observers, the proof seems to just be too mathematical and it's easy to deceive people with math beacause most people suck at it or are too lazy to figure it out.
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>>702062629
>>702062560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCM2C9z34eo
There you go. Had it saved in my viewing history. The whole channel is a fucking goldmine.

>>702062697
I'm just fucking around m8
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>>702062273
>>702062285
Fuck yeah it's dumb, because there is absolutely no evidence it doesn't exist, it's a fucking all powerful deity that can do whatever it wants IF it is even an intelligent power of any kind. And it doesn't have to be a deity or tangible thing at all, it is a god. Or what your feeble mortal mind chose to call it. It may not even be an "it" at all. It is an in-comprehensible idea to grasp, something that has is and will be. Something that actually may not be. Who knows? We may all be "god" inside each others own imaginative constructs or some dumb shit. God is a word with limitless potential of ideas, it can literally be anything, or nothing. Even the shit you took today, maybe that might be god.
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>>702062689
Explain the venus belt I'm seeing right now then
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>>702062697
No shit sounds to me like blasphemy against the holy spirit. Someone just did the uforgivable do
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>>702062273
>So you're saying you're not allowed to not believe in a evidence-free deity?

Of course you may. But when you spew idiocy based on one sole source (and ancient book written in a time when people knew nothing of the structure of the universe) and pass it off as fact and start insulting people for not falling for your shite, that's wrong.
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>>702062025
>This is actually how Americans see the world
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>>702056929
what the fuck
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>>702062285
How so? We know next to nothing about how/why we're here. It really isn't logical to assume anything at this point.
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>>702062955
Projected hologram.
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>>702062689
counterpoint, atop mountains there is less air. Before freezing, many climbers that due lose their life to lack of air. Many climbers use oxygen, if air permeated the universe it wouldn't have lower density atop mountains and at high altitudes.
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>>702062943
Or you're just a stoner teenager trying to have deep thoughts.
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>>702056306
Americans are morons.
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>>702062689
Try climbing a mountain, does the air get thinner?
Try being in an unpressurized plane
Try maybe not being autistic
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>>702062991
When you attach a load of unrelated shit to a word, that's on you.

Atheism only means the lack of belief in a deity, nothing else.
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>>702062660
i understand that, but it is still a theory.

if you see a ball, you know it is a fact that it is a sphere. but if you DON'T see it, you have to rely on calculations and what other people tell you
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>>702062697
>Why do you censor His name like profanity?
It's a valid question you asked him but why do you capitalize "Him" like a fucking autist? The only pronoun that gets capitalized is I. That shit triggers me.
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>>702063060
Exactly my point, the only people I critique about this shit is the people who aren't on the fence, as dumb as that sounds. Because there are no answers, it is an idea to a question that may never be answered.
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>>702061647
How of you need more evidence then thousands of pictures.
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>>702058722
It's an effect that causes hurricanes to spin one way in the south and one way in the north. It also causes long range sniper shots to curve consistently off course. It's the same effect that would happen if you were riding along the outside of a merry-go-round and tried to roll a ball across it to the other side. The ball would not roll straight
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mfw this thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=28&v=h-O3ASU7L4M
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>>702063137
Sounds like mountain climbers are dumb af....you gone listen at them?
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>>702063149
Or you are a rebellious stoner teenager who told your mom you were an atheist to get a little rise out of her and to sound cool to your class mates.
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>>702062689
Why do people think that there's a conspiracy to cover up a flat earth?

Why do most flat earth people assume that there's some major shadow organization trying to make people think the earth is round? Why would they spend centuries, trillions of combined dollars, and all this massive amount of effort, to just make people think the earth is round? What would they gain from it?

Seriously, if the earth was flat we would know about it. It would just be common knowledge. People have these things called brains, and we're capable of learning things on our own.

>>702062943 For it to be logical to believe in a god, there would need to be evidence of one's existence in the first place. There is none, it's more historically accurate to understand that all religions share an ancestry with ancient proto human spiritual beliefs which came about because we were smart enough to be aware of forces in the world but not smart enough to understand why those forces exist or what they do. That is the foundation of literally every single religion that humanity has ever made up, using the supernatural to explain things that we have a hard time understanding. Humans don't have a natural need for religion, they have a natural need for understanding life and the world, and when they're too stupid to learn how things really work, they just resort to religion.
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>>702063255
Dubs for truth
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>>702063255
You do that in reference to the Christian diety
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>>702056306
I give less than a shit. Trying any harder to give less of a shit than I already do would defeat the purpose of not giving a shit.

A dumb theory is becoming more popular? It only looks that way because an increasing percentage of the global population of dipshits has figured out how to state an opinion on the internet. That, or a handful of trolls have figured out how to fuck whatever polls bother to keep track of that shit. Which couldn't be that difficult to begin with.
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>>702062689
whatever the fuck youre smoking you need to share it.
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>>702062327
Sorry, I really couldn't follow that. But of you're coming up with a model for how light passes through an atmosphere, work it out yourself, rather than make the world explain something that you'll just pass off as trickery anyway.
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>>702063255
You're just supposed to if you're a christfag.

>>702063254
But we've seen the ball. Some people just don't believe we have.
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>>702063446
Idk...maybe they're just trollin
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>>702063446
the illuminati bro. it's true. we have brains and there is something called brain WASHING. our brains are washed
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>>702063137
Looking for a response to this. flat earthers invited.
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>>702063446
mah nigga. took the words from my mouth.
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>>702063522
we've seen the ball in pictures ONLY from nasa. CGI is powerful.
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>>702062943
>Fuck yeah it's dumb, because there is absolutely no evidence it doesn't exist,

The problem with this viewpoint is that often times the only evidence of something's absence is the absence of any evidence. It can be damn near impossible to prove a negative. This is why the burden of proof is on the person making the claim.
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>>702059366
>upvoted

They also don't believe in small scale models representing large scale phenomenon. Ie if you show them a scale model of say, the solar system. Even though it perfectly matches what we can observe, they say " no it's not the same size as what it represents thus it is inherently flawed and thus not evidence."

The crux of their arguments is taking assumptions and labeling them as truth. Then with that shaky foundation they build ontop of it with mostly speculation and few outdated scientific experiements and basic observations cherry picked out of a basket.

THey are the most insufferable people on the planet.
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>>702056306
On one hand its good, the sort of thinking that lets you consider the flat earth theory is what we need more of these days.

On the other hand its bad, the sort of thinking that lets you believe the flat earth theory is what we need less of these days.
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>>702063794
And space-x, and the russians, the chinese, and at least 5 other countries and 2 other organizations.
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>>702063794
See >>702060202
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>>702063794
we've seen it in amateur footage
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>>702063906
What about feminists claiming that looks and catcalling are rape?
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>>702063446
>Why do people think that there's a conspiracy to cover up a flat earth?
Because they believe that gives them them a valid argument for saying all testimonial, photographic, visual, and audio evidence is bunk. It's basically being extremely lazy.

>Why do people think that there's a conspiracy to cover up a flat earth?
Because the world loves a mystery, and this might make the FE interesting.

>Why do people think that there's a conspiracy to cover up a flat earth?
Speak for yourself. There is a school of "thought" that says disobeying your minister/Imam whatever is a sin. Literally "thinking" is a sin.

>For it to be logical to believe in a god
It is not logical to believe in God. Nevertheless, *most* people do. And personally, I won't fault them for that. But the lies they perpetrate in the name of *their* God is damaging to society.
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>>702063502
That's my point, you only need up to DE, basic physics understanding and a bit of observational skills to make and prove like 20 methods that tell you that the earth is a spherical object.
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>>702056306
feels exactly like chewing 5 gum
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>>702063446
Did you read what I said? A god does not have to be a part of a religion at all, it may not even be a deity, just some sort of in-comprehensible power or something. Or nothing. The point is, choosing a side is stupid because there hasn't been an answer for any of them, it's all just "faith." Even atheism, because you have faith that it can all be answered through just thought or science or whatever. Who knows where we came from or why we are even here in the first place, but does it really even matter? If there was an answer, deity of any kind, or lack there of, I still would not give a fuck. I'd just do me.
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>>702063137
Still waiting flat earthers, prove these and I'll join you.
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>>702063794

There are plenty of public and private organizations that have pictures of the earth from space, or from low orbit.

SpaceX for instance has been to space. There are shitloads of private companies from all across the world with satellites in space.
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>>702063740
Ok look it...when you keep livestock you have two choices....free range or fenced in. Free ran ge means you gotta go herd an find em they get lost stolen they stray. Fenced in works better but they gotta have what they need within the fence. Humans need a lot more than grass and graze...they need food for their minds and their souls. You provide them with these and they're happy to stay confined within the fence you have constructed for their confinment.
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>>702056306
I think most flat-eathers are trolls. Not all of them, but most.
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so in flat earth theory. if i were to achieve an altitude just above all man made buildings i should be able to fly from la to japan with a straight shot without adjusting altitude once till i land... you realize how fucking stupid that sounds right? im sure none of you have the slightest idea how aircrafts work..
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>>702064172

Have you seen that stuff about the entire universe being simulated? Elon Musk was talking about it recently. If we ever get to the point where we can simulate an entire universe, then it'll show that we might be someone elses simulation, and not even the top level simulation.

It sends me into an existential crisis just thinking about it.
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>>702064058
Well I wasn't talking about feminists was I?
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>>702063939
can you show me these pictures because i can't find them

>>702064241
they are all low orbit though.
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Still waiting for someone to explain how seasons work on a flat earth
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>>702064360
I like this answer, but I reeeeeally want to hear from the cattle.
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>>702064172
You missed the big idea of what I was saying. All religion is made up. We, as a species, developed faith based belief early on in our development of higher level thinking, and that over many tens of thousands of years evolved into hundreds of religions all around the world. Every single religion has its foundations in the supernatural beliefs of our cave man ancestors who felt the wind and heard the river, but didn't know why the air blew or how the water flowed.

It is entirely illogical to believe in any kind of god whatsoever, not believing in one isn't a leap of faith, and is in no way illogical.
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>>702064462
Dumbass even flat earth has mountains.
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>>702064360
That didn't answer any part of the question.
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>>702060280
CGI u dumb ass and space is and all that planet bullshit is fake nothing. ..I repeat NOTHING get passed tha Van Allen radiation belt people are dumber then a box of rocks smh!!!
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>>702063137
THey don't necessarily believe air permeates the universe, they just believe no one has been in space and filmed the curvature of the earth.
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>>702064512
Yeah, and even in that low orbit you can see the curvature of the earth. Very well.
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>>702064512
how does sattelite tv work?
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>>702064487
>They are the most insufferable people on the planet.
What about feminists
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>>702063814
But there isn't even an answer is the point, I never made a claim of either side, I just said nobody has been proven right and picking a side is retarded because of that reason alone. Peoples capacity for imagination is fucking shit around here. When someone says "god" you either think of religion, a deity, some tangible thing, or something with a thought process of some kind. A "god" is not meant to be understood, it is time incarnate. Creation. Everything. Infinite. The. It is what some people call "faith" they have faith in something. They just believe. That's what faith is. Just believing in something. All I really have faith in is the fajitas I ate tonight are gonna make me shit mountains tomorrow morning.
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>>702064582
really? so mountains is the one thing youre worried about. again you have literally no idea how aerodynamics or aircrafts work. but go on your autism is amusing.
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>>702064719
yea but it COULD be camera tricks

>>702064724
i dont know,
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>>702057762
About 25 soccer fields, but you must use a power drill.
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>>702056306
Ok im actually gonna answer it. One important thing about lies its motivation, people lie for various reasons. Now tell me, what motivation would nasa have to lie to the entire world about the earth being round? If you can give one plausible reason then maybe ill consider the proof that we have about the earth being round is fake. That's just for starts.
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>>702064535
"season" the earth, you say?
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>>702064554
They're everywhere....watch tv...go online....hell...go to church..school...they're standing in line at the convenience store they drive along side you on the freeway...everywhere
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>>702064912
Yeah dude totally they just used wide angle lenses so it looked spherical

This shit gives me cancer
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>>702064672
how does sattelite tv work?
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>>702064702
Follow the conversation bud. I said air's density would cause it to fall off the earth. They said air permeated space, I said wrong.
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>>702064582
Then if I fly high enough so any sen theta in my path that any mountain could make and the mountain never gets me I could do it, right?
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>>702062925
First up: It's not a satellite base (whatever that is), it's a radio receiver array, or actually looks more like an old cold war radar early warning installation. True, radio waves do bounce off the upper astmospher/ionosphere. Talk to Ham radio operators about that.

Satellites don't orbit "in the air." So he's already showing a fundamental lack of understanding of physics. Then he goes on to say he simply doesn't believe it. That's not proof. That's an ignorant blatherer speaking.

Oh look - the text he puts up mentioned ccold war!

Sun dogs demonstrate refractive qualities, not reflective. Fool. And it's ice crystals in the atmosphere, not the atmosphere itself.

And that's enough for now. 1:39 seconds into it, and I've got to post before this goes 404. Anyway, my point. He's an idiot, and ytou're a fool to listen tio it with your mouth open.
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>>702064977
I want the answer to one question fuckbean
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>>702056306
The earth isn't flat you bone head. Kys
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>>702064512

I just browsed quickly to find a space photo of the earth and I found this one from SpaceX.

http://www.spacex.com/media-gallery/detail/126606/4771

http://www.spacex.com/media-gallery/detail/1645/439

It's look pretty round from up there.
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It didn't surprise me as most of the participants in the discussion were from America
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>>702063067
Projected hologram.

>>702059366
>They have the freedom to make shit up (lie) because truth and understanding are not their goals, and they end the arguments with "prove me wrong."
>By disavowing any science put forward and continuing to make shit up, they "win" by attrition.
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>>702056306

>Be /b/
>raging debate over something that has been irrefutable fact for at least 1300 years
>I want to kill myself
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>>702064887
Not just mountains. . any elevation in terrain ....that's the ONLY reason a plane has to adjust altitude for collision avoidance...that and man-made obstacles and the faa rules that govern frying over them....no pilot in the history of always has ever had to adjust altitude for the curvature of the earth.
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how the fuck are there still a theory about something that WE FROM SPACE HAVE SEEN AS ROUND
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>>702064672
Oh really?

What is the Van Allen radiation belt and why can't you get past it?
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>>702065230
Implying
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>>702065007
sattelite aren't people u do realize that omg where are you from sum third world country smh again
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i dont have enough tin foil for this thread.
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Ok good point.
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>>702065006
why though? the ONLY reason i don't believe earth is flat is because of seasons and latitude and longitude. there's honestly no real evidence for the contrary. the government has always lied to the people so why blindly believe one aspect of it. shit why is nasa even government owned? i have a friend who works for space x and he literally does nothing space related. he's always hyping up his next project but he never experiences anything space related
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>>702065406
you said space doest exist. ok then how does sattelite tv work?
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>>702064557
Yeah I guess it is illogical to believe in any religion. I don't fuck with religion, it is pretty silly to just go with it too. But I'm not an atheist either. I guess i'd call myself agnostic, really having no clue. But I don't like to label it, because what you make of creation or faith has endless possibilities. Or it may just have ONE possible answer, but who knows? Trying to make sense of it all is just ludicrous. Awesome, sure. And enlightening, thought provoking. Beneficial in some cases, but will there ever come an answer were looking for? There is absolutely no way to tell. Just time.
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>>702065406
stop talking like a nigger, it just makes the bait even more obvious
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>>702065365
Read the thread fuckwad. They've made their argument and your comment gives you the appearance of complete full retard nigger dad.
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>>702064930
There is no proof for their explanations to this question, just speculation backed with cherry picked random pieces of "evidence"

Basically they want people to believe in the idea that we are all insignificant. That we're nothing more than flecks of dust. This in their minds makes us more obedient, we feel less special about ourselves thus we are less inclined to feel like we have rights and should fight for them etc. Also the bible thumpers say it's the gubbermint trying to keep us away from god so they have better control etc

It's fucking dumb.
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>>702065046
Yes
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>>702065346
>any elevation in terrain ....that's the ONLY reason a plane has to adjust altitude for collision avoidance
10/10
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>>702065215
idk man, some pics look pretty convincing while others don't. earth looks different in nearly every picture
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>>702063254
>i understand that, but it is still a theory.

No, you don't understand. The way you are framing your sentence minimizes the importance of the nature of the scientific "theory." What word are you expecting to be used in conjunction with "Oblate Spheroid ___" ?
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>>702065448

Even people that build rockets to go to space make trash on Earth for janitors to clean up. I mean, I don't know your friend, but the fact that he doesn't do space stuff at a space company doesn't mean that company doesn't do space stuff, it just means he isn't that important.
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>>702065448
>Blindly believe
>Regarding earth's sphericality

That's not blind belief buddy, humans have been building up evidence for the last 3000 years

I really do think that there are more people who believe in a flat earth now than there were in the 1200's

Like people historically weren't very keen on the whole flat earth thing, the only people who have ever believed in a flat earth have been peasants who couldn't afford schooling and had to farm until they died of the common cold.
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>>702065054
Hey man I didn't say I believed that shit
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/THREAD we're just angrily masturbating, hatefucking the keyboard at this point. Abandon thread ffs.
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can someone explain lunar eclipses and how we have a schedule for them and how ive seen them multiple times in my life. was the government just projecting a big picture in the sky to trick me?
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>>702065399
Google it I'm not your teacher find out your self and Satellites don't orbit "in the air they bounce off the upper astmospher/ionosphere.
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>>702059669
Hey Flat Earthers! Could you please make something up to counter this so I can tear it down?
I know it's a tough one, but I'm sure you can do it.
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>>702056306
judging by the amount of fucking retards i encounter on a daily basis i cant say im suprised
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>>702065812
his projects seem pretty important though

>>702065599
>>702064557
it is just as logical to believe in God or gods as it is to not believe. the difference is the proof. God has proof. no god has no proof
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>>702065937
Yes
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>>702057919
Try to find polaris in australia.
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>>702064469
Yeah, I heard about that. I could give two fucks about it honestly, I mean, i'm living my life, I think. And me not existing might actually be a blessing.
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>>702065926
This
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>>702066011
There's no proof for god what the fuck lol
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>>702066011
>God has proof.
go ahead
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>>702065346
after you said frying i just dismissed everything you had to say. its cute watching someone try to comprehend something they have no idea about.
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>>702066133
of course there is. the Holy Bible, a written account of God.
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>>702065947
translation: I don't know because I'm making this shit up
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>>702065727
>earth looks different in nearly every picture

You make it sound like that's not the way it should be. So given that there are seasons and clouds and movement of Sun north and south and times of day, different imaging media and sensors, what are you expecting?
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>>702066215
LOL
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>>702064672
>everything "they" tell us is a lie. There is no space.
>they tell us they went into space numerous times.
>they tell us about the dangerous vanallen belt and that's why we don't go to space anymore.
>LOL there's no way a human being could have gotten past the van allen belt thus space is a lie


So, you accept that some of what "they" have told you is true about space, but others must be untrue, thus all of it is untrue....

what

Howabout this: The van allen radiation belt is discovered and represents a small but real risk to astronaughts. Any risk at all is enough to cancel rocket launches let alone entire manned missions. Seems a lot more likely that they just don't want to deal with a potential hazard until they can confidently avoid it. On top of the millions of other reasons we aren't sending many manned missions into space.
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>>702065947
>Satellites don't orbit, they bounce off the upper astmospher/ionosphere
I might know of those satellites
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>>702066011
>it is just as logical to believe in God or gods as it is to not believe.
Exactly.
>God has proof.
That just refutes what you just said because there may not even be a god? Or I just read it wrong?
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>>702065346
im a pilot and i really hope you never try to get a pilots license youll end up killing yourself and alot of people.
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>>702057919
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>>702065502
There are kno Satellites in space thay bounce off the upper astmospher/ionosphere.
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>>702066228
i understand this, the pictures just don't look REAL enough in my eyes. as i said, the seasons have me believing in a round earth.
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>>702066215
You mean a bunch of jewish shekel hounds compiling false accounts into a book to have more control over the european masses.

Religious people are literally retarded, and I'm amazed that there are still people who actually follow a religious faith at this point in history.
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>>702065399
Why do you say we can't get past it? It's been done by manned spacecraft 7 times, and I don't really know how many unmanned - Voyagers 1& 2, New Horizons, Mariners, Vikings, Venera, etc.
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>>702066205
So I lose my commercial pilots certificate for a typo?
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>>702066418
seasons are explained by the path of the sun on the flat earth, you can look that up
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>>702066418

How Can Pictures Of A Round Earth Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real?
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>>702066451
That's what I was asking him, as it was obvious he has no idea what it is, it's just a bullet point he saw someone else point and coped it.
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>>702066414
You make it sound as if the atmosphere were some very stable mass that was reliable. You really have no idea, do you?
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>>702063794
Sure, they had CGI when they live streamed the Apollo landing and moonwalk constantly for over two hours.

The fact that you only see the highlights nowadays is glossed over a lot, but the original moon landing was televised for 140 minutes straight, which would have used more film 8mm than you could fit inside a house, in order to create the so called 'slow effect' of the moon walk.

Moron.
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>>702066510
Did Will Smiths son say some dumb ass shit like that?
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>>702066359
i never said there may or may not, it just is just as logical for someone to believe there is or isn't. i think it is obvious that there is, but some people don't have the spiritual nature and thus observe the world with their senses, and don't see proof for God so it is logical they won't believe in him
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>>702066364
I'm a pilot too...never had to adjust altitude for the curvature of the earth.....course maybe but I don't fly overseas.
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>>702057919
>You can't prove that I don't have a baseball
>You can't prove something isn't this way
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>>702064469
They debunked the simulation(as we know it) thing recently. It's beyond me to explain it, but the article made sense when I read it.
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>>702059999
g
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>>702064872
No, what's retarded is pretending that there's a 50/50 split in this debate, that victory can only be given to one side if they conclusively prove either god exists or god doesn't exist. That is not how logic works.

The very reason why the format of, "Whoever makes the claim has the burden of proof" is specifically designed to weed out weak ideas.

I'm not saying you're making a claim, but religious people very much do make a claim about the nature of our universe and it's not retarded to say, "Well if you can't prove it, why should I believe it?"

Then again, I get the impression I'm wasting my time considering this contradiction;

>A "god" is not meant to be understood, it is time incarnate. Creation. Everything. Infinite.

If god is incomprehensible, then there's no way you can then say "It's time incarnate. Creation. Everything. Infinite." Completely and utterly mutually exclusive.
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>>702066649
What's your point?
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>>702066486
theres no fucking way youre a commercial pilot you fuckwit your barely understand basic physics.
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>>702066488
are they really?

>>702066434
ive debunked this countless times

>>702066421
nah, the israelites of yesteryear are long gone. the jews of today are the khazarian illuminati synagogue of satan

sounds crazy but we are in a flat earth thread aren't we? and im not trolling
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>>702056306
I view it as part of the coming deevolution of the human race. At the turn of the century, smart people became noticeably dumber.
There are still smart people, but they are making far less smart choices than they used to. Humankind is getting dumber, eventually, it won't be the evolution of the intelligence we're making in computers, but the fact that we've dumbed ourselves down below modern technology, where we will compare to the earliest computers in intelligence.
That is, to say, merely reduced to pushing buttons and nothing else.
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>>702066909
>ive debunked this countless times
no you haven't
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>>702066909
Yes, just look up seasons on flat earth, plenty of vids on it
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>>702066634
A lot of scientists and astronomers have said the more they study the universe, the more they believe in a god. But to think it is some kind of "being" or "judge", "him" or even an "it" is ridiculous. I may be wrong is what I was saying earlier, but to be able to comprehend god or to even see it in anything is just probably impossible.
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>>702064462
Sorry just reread your post....no if you're flying over ocean and there are no man made obstacles or natural terrain....then you will be fine
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>>702066962
i really have. give me a "contradiction" after you've read the bible from front to back
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>>702067090
there's a big list there
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>>702066962
He did that one time, you know, the time with the dildo and the angry moans
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>>702066649
really? explain the sr71 blackbird. which my grandfather piloted, explain how he flew against the atmosphere in it and how he had to wear a suit close to an astronauts suit. also he has pictures of them in the plane. also he had to adjust for curvature or else he could of stalled the jet.
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>>702066215
>some old myths
>Let's take them as fact!
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>>702067037
i think you want to believe in God. He is a "He" and an "it" because he is communicating with us. he is way more than that. the bible actually has God decribing himself, he says "i am who i am, i will be what i will be"

that is God literally describing himself to Moses
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>>702067090
[HOLY BIBLE][]
Done. can I start?
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>>702065448
>why though? the ONLY reason i don't believe earth is flat is because of seasons and latitude and longitude. there's honestly no real evidence for the contrary. the government has always lied to the people so why blindly believe one aspect of it.

*Politicians* have always lied to the people. It is not fair to project that experience onto the rank and file. Anyway...

What sort of proof do you want? Do you think being whiny is going to get you a free "See?" flight from NASA? Seriously, what do you want?
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>>702067119
too small to read
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>>702066621

I Live By His Gospel
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>>702067294
just pictures and evidence that don't send me into confusion. i am a smart guy, not confused easily.
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I wonder if Jaden Smith thinks the world is flat or round... He could solve this once and for all for all humanity.
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>>702066904
Lift equals weight...thrust equals drag....any unbalance in respect to these and the aircraft moves in respect to the imbalance. Lift is caused by a decrease in air pressure over the top of the wing...it is caused by Bernoulli principle which states that a liquid...or gas..flowing through a venturi...a wing is half of this...increases speed and decreases pressure. This causes the lift. Its also how propellers work
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