Hey /b/ernie supporters:
If you had to choose between Trump or Hillary, who would you choose?
This thread is awesome. Go Trump!
>inb4 shilling arrives
That does not mean it did not happen, you 'tard. Im sure your Hillary-Handler has told you that images leave a lasting impression than words.
Bengazi happened, Hillary let it and lied about it.
Donald Trump for President.
Trump has already sold out America with every opportunity he has had
Even Republican POLITICIANS will vote for Hillary because they know how damaging Trump will be.
republicans are not voting for him simply because they didnt get there candidate to win
if cruz had won the people wouldnt have voted for him because *insert any of the other primary candidates* didnt win
democrats will vote for someone they dislike to make sure republicans lose where republicans wont vote unless its there guy or the the other guy agrees to do what they want completely.
Used to be Bernfag. Now on Trump train.
Trump is part of the establishment as well.
He's donated to the Clinton Foundation and has been a regular supporter of establishment politics before he decided to go for a better "Apprentice" contract.
>Is cheaper to make things abroad
>Trump as a buisinessman makes things abroad
>Tells America that he will make it expensive to make things abroad
>Shows America that there will be tarrifs for importing things that can be made in the US
>Is not retarded and going to bankrupt himself appealing to liberal pinkos like you
>Is literally the reasons he is rich, buy low, sell high
>Doing otherwise is retarded
I agree more with Hillary standpoints. BUT, KEYWORD BUT I know all she is doing is trying to pander and use Bernie's ideas. She doesn't give a shit about anyone and is a big bold face corrupted liar. I think the damage of trump will be less than killary
hilldog. trump is against drugs and NASA and i like both of those things. hillary says she's for drug decriminalization and increasing NASA's budget.
trump wants to increase military funding, hillary wants to decrease it.
trump wants to get rid of planned parenthood and abortion, hillary is for it.
trump is a bit of an ignorant asshole and takes pride in his ignorance. hillary is a liar but so fucking what everybody is a liar.
>makes things abroad because it's cheaper
>says he'll change things to make it more expensive
>doesn't use expensive domestic labor already
>you're actually stupid enough to believe him
I didn't say Hillary wasn't negligent in Benghazi, there's evidence she was, but there's no proof whatsoever that he was raped or tortured...what's the point peddling a fake photo with fake info just to try to make your point more dramatic? All witness evidence says that he succumbed to smoke inhalation and died in a Benghazi medical centre of cardiac arrest after losing consciousness. This just epitomises American politics' complete disinterest in facts. No one in the rest of the world can understand your obsession with this narcissistic man and this is an example of a good reason why.
Trump for Purge 2016
I feel if we want to make a larger impact during our presidential elections to ensure that the majority will of our state voters is carried into the electoral college, we should focus on city/state elections to eject representatives into office who will pass state legislation requiring electors to vote according to the will of the state's voters.
>This guy paid off a crooked politician.
>Instead of electing him, we should elect that same politician who takes money from various billionaires.
I'm voting Hillary and every single person I know who supported Bernie is doing the same.
Where the fuck ARE you Trump supporters? Are you all in Russia or something?
2020, Gary Johnson could end up taking down Hillary. I could see it, especially if Hillary keeps pissing off voters like me. If she fails to deliver on the stuff Bernie moved her towards, we won't vote for her again.
You mean like how you're lying to yourself, country, and fellow man by voting a crook into office? Hope the money you make from shekle posts is taken from you by a gay refugee with a gun.
If you've ever had any kind of government clearance (ie military or intelligence of some sort) and have been assigned in washington d.c. you'd know that after their congressional sessions the dems and republicans that we are led to believe hate each other actually host dinner parties together and get drunk in each others company. During the day, they are enemies. At night, they are one big family of the elite political class... no one "gets" them like they get each other. Or so they believe.
Washington D.C. is a red carpet event. It's sickening when you see the truth.
>Implying a person willing to pay bribes won't be willing to take them.
The whole situation reminds me of that Simpsons episode where the choice was between 2 aliens. Why vote for either one. You know what the first choice was anyway but the rich win, as always. There's no democracy and that was proof.
Does the fact that Republican politicians endorse Hillary over Trump really count as bait to you?
i guess an ignorant xenophobe is the best option then.
its not like my one vote matters, regardless.
if the american populous wants Trump, they'll have him.
i'm sure it will be four years of the same sort of shit, regardless of which candidate gets elected.
The "wasted vote" argument is an expression of fear that the arguer's candidate is a shitbag unfit for office.
That's also the reason "not voting for X is a vote for Y."
I vote Trump
Simply because that fucking sellout wants ppl to vote Hillary
Both candidates are shit. The difference is, we know what kind of shit we'll get from hill-dawg, and that shit stinks to the high heavens. Trump might still surprise us by blundering into something brilliant
these 'made in blah blah' pictures do nothing but prove Donald Trump's point that china and mexico dominate the production industry. He is a business man at the end of the day
>someone who already takes bribes is better than someone who i think might take bribes.
Yeah because he's really been in the poor house lately.
You must be literally retarded. As it stands now, he is profiting off of our poor trade deals. Instead of keeping quiet and letting it happen, he brought attention to it and based his whole campaign on bringing jobs back to the United States. He's really stacking that deck.
IT'S NOT WASTED YOU GODDAMNED RETARDS
You don't vote 3rd party to WIN, Jesus fucking Christ is this your first fucking election???
Third parties ONLY need 5% of the popular vote to win public funding. That's the kind of money that COULD lead to an actual win, but only if you goddamned pussies grow some actual fucking BAAAAALLLLLLSSSS.
Faulty nigger alert
this is what we need more of! more unbiased REAL facts.
i hate how i have to hear information from a source that clearly supports the election of one of the candidates while bashing the other one. why is it so hard to find pure, honest information like the stuff in this picture???
Corrupt the Record in the house.
>dominate production industry BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE KEEP GIVING THEM BUSINESS
Trump claims he'll change things, but there is nothing stopping him from using American labor RIGHT NOW.
You are a pathetic chump if you think he's going to do anything at all for you, ever.
>dominating our industries
Just GTFO you goddamned piece of shit
Hilary and it's not even a hard choice. I'd rather vote for a moderate republican than a thin-skinned little bitch.
I don't care what side you're on or how faggy the other person's sign/flag/clothing is, you're a childish cunt if you mess with someone else's property. Especially like this chick who adds to her cuntiness by giggling and a fake "Soooreeeeey". If some libtard or sjw tried to take someone's sign or Trump hat to mess it up i'd hope they get the shit kicked out of them.
Polling doesn't mean SHIT
You need actual votes, and Libertarians have a long history of betraying their party for Republicans once the actual vote comes.
It'd be nice, but the sad fact is that most people have no fucking clue how elections work.
>what is the tragedy of the commons?
that's what i'm saying! might as well just flush your votes down the toilet. who cares? vote for whomever. its not like your one vote will make a difference?
Nigga are you seriously gonna beleive Hillary will touch the military budget or decriminilize drugs? She, as well as loads of other politicians tbh, has been getting her palms greased companies those oppose that stuff. Do you know how much money pain killers make? Do you know how people make building parts of the world America blew up? There is no way a politician of like 30 years isnt crooked as fuck, and you probably shouldnt believe anything they ever promise.
P.S. Don't vote for trump, just throw your shit at one of the other guys.
This shit is dire.
I said China and Mexico. I know another one of the pictures said Bangladesh, but I deliberately didn't say they dominated the industries because I knew someone would say some dumb shit about it. They still provide cheap bulk labour.
I know there is nothing stopping him from using american labour, but as I said he is still a business man and if he's mass producing merchandise he is going to pick the cheapest option. His goal is more to make American labour a more feasible and economic option, which it very much isn't at the moment
Trump. A vote for Trump is a vote for the memes. I can't wait for the day memes totally assimilate and take over our society.
It's not in the best interest of his business, or nay business for that matter, to make in USA you stupid brat. Which is his entire point. You clearly have no grasp of how a business works.
You do everything you can to maximize profits and minimize costs. You have these people called shareholders, and they don't really give two fucks about anything but maximizing profits. If you went to them and said "I wanna make in USA cuz patriot", you'd be laughed out of the room.
Well they are at a Trump rally protesting. Fucking up some dumb illegals sign at a Trump rally isn't the same as when Liberals vandalize Trump signs in peoples yards or key up their cars for having Trump stickers.
Trump is too easily manipulated to be president.
Insult him and he flies into an emotional rage, flatter his ego and he bends over.
>make a more feasible option
He will not do this because it will cost him MONEY
If he wanted to stimulate American business and lose some profit, he could already do that.
Don't be fucking stupid enough to think that would change once you hand him all the power.
Dude you realize people vote for Trump because we want the rest of the world to take us seriously right? Russia and China see Obama as a little bitch and Hillary as the same. If you want America to be respected again by our rivals you would vote for Trump.
Completely agree with you. It's not right when they do fuck with us, there should be no exception to this. If we excuse this shit we're no different than the fucking blue-hairs.
It doesn't matter where they are. You could be a nazi protesting a jewish funeral, you still have your rights. The first amendment guarantees us the right that you can express your opinion without having to worry about some sack of shit trying to silence you with force. No excuses.
therein, you may be right. But apathy isn't the way to deal with this situation.
The main thing we avoid by electing Trump. is not watching a criminal take the oath of office. He isn't the best, but he isn't Hillary...
Murricans passed up crooked Hillary last election cycle and went with Obama who had hardly any experience, that has to tell you something.
> Dude you realize people vote for Trump because we want the rest of the world to take us seriously right?
This is a joke right? Obama is loved by most of the outside world and Trump is hated by everyone but our enemies. I also love how they portray Obama as both a dictator and feckless. Make up your minds.
That's if you value your...friendship...with Russia and China more than European and other developing nations. I'm pretty sure Trump isn't popular in any of those. That's putting it lightly.
Obama TROUNCED every opponent the Republicans could offer, his closest race BY FAR was against Hillary.
What this tells you is that the Republican Party is completely impotent at this point. Even TRUMP could just walk in and take their party from them, it's fucking over for the Republicans.
Yeah, I bet he climbed to the top of a real estate empire by being a big dumb oaf. Even if he acts boorish and uncouth, it's all an act. He understands what makes people tick, even the childish way he speaks by simplifying and repeating things. It gets his point across in a way anyone can understand, it lulls you into a sense of security, and hammers things into your head. He is by no means an idiot.
Trump can't be manipulated. He's a fucking billionaire. There's nothing that can be given to him that would sway him on topics other then the recommendations of his advisors. Unlike Hillary who just panders to the people who will give her the most money and tries to maintain our corrupt status quo.
Russia and China both want Trump to win because they know he's easy to manipulate.
Kind of sinks your "b-b-but he's a tough guy!!1!" argument when the countries he's supposed to be intimidating want him to win.
It should be over for both parties, anyone who does the smallest bit of research can learn the hilldog is a fucking crook, a liar, and a psycho. The only thing more pathetic than the canidits is people like you.
He's loved by globalists in the EU because he's a fucking globalist. He bends to whatever they want. Trump on the other hand cares about America and the best interests of america. Not the wants and needs some aristocratic cunts in Europe.
I used to be a Bernfag but I sorta started to wonder how some of his shit made sense. Like increasing the minimum wage. Wouldn't that just make businesses lay off more people in order to make up for the loss of money? And as for the the free college wouldn't that just result in a further degradation of the worth of a degree? I decided to leave Bernfag once he started spewing sjw and blm rhetoric. Sucky thing is that I think he was honestly the only candidate who gave a honest fuck about the people.
She "got things done" the worst, most half-assed way possible, and ONLY because of the story's presence in the media. If she had not pressured the troops to the point of opening fire, maybe the situation could have been resolved without violence. The world will never know.
>not even close
Pretty fucking close actually, the "e" is just two spots over from where it should be. If you're typing quickly, that's a mistake I could understand.
Now THIS retard, on the other hand, is just inexcusable
Not a Hill shill, but Obama was very charismatic and charming. Not to mention his novelty of race was just too good for progressives to pass up.
The people He went up against were stiffs. Obama knew how to reach out to young people, be cool (I still see 'obama is so cool' shit on my fb wall sometimes) Meanwhile McCain and Rmoney were like corpses next to him, which isn't far off of what they actually are. Trump on the other hand has dominated news since his announcement of running. I can't get away from Trump stuff if I tried. His face is everywhere, meanwhile the news is trying to prop up Hillary's bloated rotting campaign with balsa wood and pipecleaners. People are starting to wake up and see that she is a genuinely evil person
She is exactly what Rmoney and Mccain were, a lifeless stiff made of pure distain for common people.
You understand that Putin likes Trump not because he can be manipulated(which is total bullshit) but because they share similar values right? Putin doesn't want to be enemies with the US and he doesn't see the US as a threat. However under Obama the US has been refusing to co-operate with Putin. With Trump in office we'd be able to form a great friendship with Russia, instead of possibly going to war with them if Hillary is elected.
Why don't you calm down about spelling you fucking children, people are making points and the only way your underdevelopet mind can add to the conversation is "HUURRR U DID DA THING WRONG HUUUUUURRRR"
You com acros dummer then som1 witt dis spelin dat kan maek a poynt
You know that she's beating the ever-loving SHIT out of Trump right now, right?
Reminder to Berniefags
The DNC fucked him over out of the nomination
He holds similar views to Trump on mass immigration
Did you even read what I said? Hillary was negligent. I'm purely berating people who continue to misinform because it's inconvenient to their argument to be truthful. I'm not even American or give a shit what you vote.
>Hey /b/ernie supporters:
>If you had to choose between Trump or Hillary, who would you choose?
>God Emperor Trump
>Trump. Hands down.
Replies are Best Replies.
Trump has been steadily slipping in the polls since his nomination, and there is no sign of him pulling out of the downward spiral anytime soon.
KEK, not even close
Legit Bernie supporter here. Bernie's people's are one of two people. The one's who will follow him to the end and do what he says, meaning supporting Hillary. The other would be the one who sees her as the devil. A devil who serves the establishment. A Neo conservative. They will never support her. Now out of the people who will never support her, half won't vote at all and the other's will vote trump. It's a small percentage compared to those who will listen to him. I personally rather vote for an honest clueless clown who at least has a America first policy that hasn't existed with people like Hillary and Obama.
>where are Johnson, Stein, Castle, and McMullan?
WAITING ON IDIOTS LIKE YOU TO THROW AWAY YOUR VOTE ON THEM.
Pro-tip: There are no perfect candidates. Vote for the viable person who you agree with most.
FUCK that wrinkled old jew is his prolapsed shithole.
I've always wondered... what are progressives hoping to progress to?
Pretty simple question, actually, but i've never gotten a straight answer from one.
Society would "progress" with or without their special snowflake ideas.
In selective polls that don't mean anything? I never got polled, none of my friends or family or co workers ever got polled. Who are they polling? Polls don't mean shit. Brexit had endless negative media coverage and polls saying it had no chance, "It'll be the end of the UK." "Only racists and bigots want out" "allahu ackbar" We all know how that turned out. It's acutally very similar to Trump's situation.
They also haven't even had their first debate yet, if she will even live that long. Trump is going to absolutely demolish her. She could hardly stand up to a 1,000 year old socialist cuck.
>THROW AWAY YOUR VOTE
Daily Reminder that faggots like this have no clue how elections work
5% popular vote is needed to award 3rd parties the public campaign funding needed to actually compete in the next cycle.
Haven't voted Repub since Reagan, and I hated Reagan. ...along with everyone else at the time you forgetful pukes.
Not that it matters.
Vote didn't matter when it was for the Bernmeister, not going to matter now.
I hate that the left has lost its damn mind in a single generations time and abandoned classical liberal thought in favor of authoritarian worship of a conservative ideologue, almost as much as I hate that the right has led the way as the party of stupid, to turning the tables and is now one step ahead of the left in this bi-partisan self destruction.
An anti-establishment liberal Republican vs an establishment conservative Democrat.
All those years of everyone wishing for the old cliche of "social liberal, economic conservative" resulted in the very worst of both instead of the best. Jesus fuckity Jones.
I'm voting for Trump. The revolution was supposed to be sticking it to the political class that has been fucking up this country for years. Hillary embodies the political establishment, fuck that.
You should really take a look at the polls kiddo. I'd say get an education, but you were probably relying on Bernie's free schooling before you got your learn on.
No they share values in that they both put their own countries first and don't back down to other nations and do not tolerate people who harm their nations. Also don't even bother insulting Putin, if you knew anything you'd know he's the greatest world leader of the 2000's. The Russian people love him and for good reason.
I do not blindly hate Hillary and I have no issues with a female president. But I did not like the shady shit she and her husband did when Bill was president.
I supported Bernie really hard and I voted for him in my home state. I was really blindsided when he did not fight when he took the DNC convention and did not rebel. I wanted him to get up there and say fuck the DNC, they clearly rigged some of it-- even if he would have still lost, I just wanted some kind of a push.
He just kind of fell in line because they were threatening the changes they added if he did not join her. And he was right, defeating Trump was the idea. So a lot of his ideas are in the agenda, but that doesn't mean shit to someone like a Clinton who have made terrible decisions in the past. I'd never vote for trump and I've always been an independent registered Dem because 3rd party is just a joke.
Gunna have to go with trump. I consider myself part of the moderate left, but my one enormous issue is with the TPP.
Every bernbro intrinsically knows that the reason the establishment shilled KKKillary Klanton so hardcore over both Bernie and Trump is because of the enormous organizations pushing for the TPP. When she said she wouldn't sign the tpp, it was complete bullshit - she only said the words "I won't do anything that's bad for this country" - and in her mind, that's entirely subjective.
Besides, If Trump fucks up the presidency, it swings the pendulum further left for the next election.
If clinton gets in, and by the next election we still have an actual functioning country, the pendulum will have swung so far right that leftist ideology will never recover. No one goes through 16 years of bad policy and comes out smiling.
No one in their right mind would pick hillary over trump. She rigs elections in front of your very eyes. Breaks laws in front of your face that would put you under the jail and walks away. She's obviously crooked as shit. You really want that as your president as opposed to the guy who says mean/stupid shit every now and then?
Yeah the choice is obvious. Trump. Every time.
>p-p-polls are w-w-wrong
I hope you and your friends truly believe this. It's going to make election night on 4chan glorious when reality hits.
>I'd say get an education
>before you got your learn on.
>GET YOUR LEARN ON
>GET YOUR LEARN ON
WHAT IN THE MOTHER OF FUCKS DID I JUST READ
I'm sure she's an okay person at home with her grankids and shit. But she's pretty much acting like she's ordained to be president. Obama administration basically had to hook up with the DNC and at least give her that after he beat her ass so bad in 2008.
Gotta say, i actually felt the bern the day this happened.
Believe it or not, our elections are usually bought long before they happen. The Koch Brothers said they were going to give $1 BILLION to whoever won the RNC
>at least, until it was Trump and they knew they'd already lost
Hillary, but the biggest sticking point is global warming. Second is the Supreme Court nomination. There are a lot of other things I disagree with about Trump, but I'd be willing to say "fuck it" to all of them to fuck over the establishment if it weren't for those two.
Stein, clearly, nobody wants Hitlery to win
Trumpfags never were berners, find another thread to shit up
To be honest, he tried to wreck her before and it just got covered with damage control. Trump and all the new people he keeps hiring for the campaign are fucking up. By trying to make him less offensive he's losing people. I absolutely detest the man and I do not think either of them should be nominees-- but he's going to lose in a landslide unless he sticks to being the offensive guy who says what is on his mind and stops being fed by the RNC and being "careful"
Trusting news sources she paid off, niiiiice, we'lll see come election day. It's the same shit as the companies who can't say shit about the PC bullshit, but when others speak up for them, they thank them on the side. There are plenty of people who will say "Uhh no no, Trump? No way, he's literally Hitler, I would never vote for him!" and in the end, his name will be on their ballot. They are worried about the scrutiny that they will undergo among their peers, that's all there is to it.
It seems to have more to do with democrat-based crony capitalism than anything else. the Big names that shilled for obama - who i was behind until his policies turned out to be a leftist parallel of George W Bush - are all backing hillary. The entire media establishment is going crazy for her, and I've learned to have absolutely no trust in them for good reason.
And let's not even start on the clinton deathcount.
idk, go to a pol thread and say something nice about hillary and or mean about trump and you should get a bunch of posts saying .06 has been added to your account. I think that's how it works
Well, they'll get their chance to see what a charismatic president who turns out to be a big goddamn disappointment and eventual laughing stock in office is like... and if they're really lucky, they'll get to see them canonized as a saint 20 years later in a very cynical PR move targeting peoples childhood nostalgia.
And it will be just as fucking weird for you guys.
I voted for Obama twice and the past few months he's been really making me regret that. Not because of the leftist stuff. I'm as left as woodstock but he's just not as honest as he made out and he's really not for change or we would of had legal weed and gay rights shit for the lqgbt whatever WAYYY earlier. If there was so much hope and progressive spirit behind his agenda, why am I seeing none of it
>implying i care what the broken news media says and does.
My point is that polls are absolute shit. It's like the bmi of politics.
>Call houses in urban shithole at 11am
>Axe dem who they're voting for
>Act like you won when a bunch of single mothers on welfare say they voting fo the benefits
I say what I want, how I want, because I don't rely on handouts, and can pay for my own shit.
also, this is just a personal view, but the media has been doing a whole load of trying to make clinton look more "human".
All the seemingly set-up backstage fawning over family members, the whole shebang. Knowing her tendency to silence or outright kill everyone that disagrees with her, i have a really hard time buying the "goofy grandma" appeal they're trying to attribute to her.
There is too much to dislike her for. She would be losing right now in the polls if Trump wasn't such a fucking clown all the time.every month there is a new email controversy with her and we learn more and more about all the corruption she's really drenched in. I wanted to see Bernie fight back too but since the beginning its been clear he had no political instinct when it comes to primary fights. He saw Obama crush her in the primaries. She toughened up and everyoone knows it. Not that the Clinton's weren't already ruthless in races in the past. They always have been ruthless Bernie knew what he was up against. At one point he truly sounded like he would make some sort of revolution happen and that we'd take over and overcome them. But they threatened him something that got him to negotiate despite knowing they cheated us from the beginning. That's why it had to have been some sort of threat.
A little bit of funding could help a third party gain notoriety though, you need publicity to make headway. Nobody said it's an immediate fix, but getting another voice out there gives people options. The only vote that's thrown away is a vote for someone you don't want because you don't think you have another option. Voting for the lesser of 2 evils is tacitly endorsing evil.
None of them want to fight for anything or for the people. I guess that is my issue. If you say you are X then be X don't pander to the people who like X and do nothing. Fight for it or give the people hell who don't give you X for the people. He was supposed to represent us.
I wanted him to make things better for the middle class and the weed shit. I didn't want him bombing the middle east and doing jack shit about the little people.
>implying Fox News isn't the #1 most popular, most mainstream, most influential "news" channel in the country entirely owned and staffed by GOP writers & spokespeople who take turns in the revolving door between both.
>oh no matter, they're just some little broken news media backwater no ones ever heard of
It's either "goofy grandma" or "hip and cool Hill" and both of it is bullshit. She's just not a likable person. Because you can't just plaster a personality onto somebody.
America loved Obama in 08 because he was friendly, charismatic guy, smart and talked a lot about hope. Dancing with Ellen and just being a cool guy, you know? Hillary can get up there and try to be "friendly" she can dance with Ellen until her legs fall off. But she's just a shitty person and there is no way to redo personality. She's boring. Kaine is boring. Pence is boring. Politics is boring and they want millennials and young people to vote for boring fucks.
This probably has something to do with it. It's not just random. Once the election went from primary to general, pol became filled with pro hillary threads, I don't fully believe that every person with an opposing viewpoint is a shill, but it's not all genuine either.
Trump. I joined the Bernie movement to be anti-establishment, and I will continue to be anti-establishment regardless if Bernie sells out or not. To quote bernie, "she's not fit to lead". Trump is a risk i'm willing to take.
It really doesn't matter what you care about, you're nobody.
FOX, on the other hand, has actual power, and even they can't lie to themselves that Trump is winning.
Between Trump and Hillary I go with Hillary. At this point I hope everyone understand both candidates are complete fuckin' shit. Pretty much the only thing I'm thinking about is climate change- Trump is against fighting it and for that reason he is a cancer. I mean for fucks sake he said climate change was a Chinese hoax to make American manufacturing noncompetitive. WTF
I think he was afraid of being seen as aggressive, because he was the outsider to the democratic party. If he had been more aggressive to Hillary at the start, instead of near the end there would of been little issue. But since he started too late railing into her bullshit he got overlooked and he just got painted a bully who was jealous that he was losing. He lost so bad with minorities, especially black females because they did not know who the hell he was.
Sure, but the meme is still a pathetic defense mechanism
Also, Putin has done the same thing for Trump
I'm inclined to believe there's a link between Putin and Trump, but even if there isn't, Russian shills are not better than Hillary shills.
I've said my point, you're apparently too stupid to grasp it
All things are based in faith [email protected] Unless you went out and scientifically discovered everything you believe yourself, you're having faith that what other tell you is truth, is in fact true.
You also cannot compile the political opinions of every voter in the united states before an election. If you could, there would be no point in having them in the first place. There are people who get ignored by polling companies, people who's views change, people who won't bother voting but are willing to announce their opinion with a bumper sticker. polls are just a way for the major media to say we're winning. Unless you actually went out and polled everyone yourself, you're also taking that poll stat on pure faith :^)
Because the Corrupt Establishment runs rampant throughout both the Democrats and the republicans, the past 2 presidencies have been a great example of that.
And we're really not to blame.
We went through our teen/adulthood being raised by boomers that lived in an age outside of high-information technology like the internet, opinions were far easier to control, facts far harder to ascertain. It's becoming a lot clearer that a large majority of those that preach hope and change are full of crap, and just in it for money and the appeasement of the corporations and banks sponsoring them.
This is why I've switched to trump after Bernie was robbed. The entire Core of his campaign is based around not being a part of the corrupt totalitarian pseudo-government that both bushes, bill clinton, and obama are a part of.
And you'd best believe the right, the centralists, and the left voting for him are going to do their utmost to keep him on that path, or there will be hell to pay.
lol u sure as fuck do
Did you dig your own fuckin oil and build your own refinery? Did you build your own ships and police international waters to secure trade routes for your cheap crap all yourself? Did you grow your own fuckin food? Did you bore your own well and test and pump your own water? Did you use technology developed during the space age, the cold war, and the war effort to do every single fucking thing you've ever done in your life? Did you fucking make the cars safer so they won't kill you when you get a fender bender? Did you invent the technology that was created to build the components that were then refined for half a century to make up the computer systems you're using? You ever wat to have a fuckin kid? Guess who pays for your hospital costs. Guess who paid for all the technology in that hospital? Guess who pays for the cost of your spoiled little shit to go to school?
Yeah, you never rely on handouts, or other people paying the cost of your cushy, mindless life. You do everything yourself and pay for all your own shit with gold you dug out of the hills.
You are one gullible fuckin dope.
no, i think you are too stupid to not run after bait for this long.
Awesome perspective bro. So you're just not voting? BTW I admire your perspective. We have a pretty Awesome group chat where we talk news and politics and debate. You sound like you'd fight in. Kik me if you're interested. XDMauricio
What do you think will happen if Trump betrays those drawn to him like you said? The leftists and the centralists who pull the lever trying to make a statement and get out of big politics? I mean to be honest he's already big money. And that doesn't sit right with me because he did not even earn it himself. But yeah I get the big idea. But how do you put so much faith he'll stay true to it? He's already starting to flip flop because of the RNC.
I haven't been paying attention to any polls. Apparently, that is why I never heard of Q-tip university. I don't need to know what everyone else thinks, in order to make up my mind.
Very revealing about your character, though.
>how do statistics work
Sample size determines the margin of error of the poll. It doesn't matter what the overall population size is. 2.5% margin of error still has Clinton well ahead.
I shill Hillary for the same reasons, and if you assume anything different about someone, it's only because you're too weak-minded to consider their argument honestly.
"Shilling" is just some stupid meme word that isn't even used correctly. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being paid to support a politician, as long as you do it honestly.
I mean I feel really guilty about it, but I do not really think I can make myself vote for Hillary or Trump. She doesn't represent me and it's always something new with her. And Trump..I mean I get it, he's not a big politician guy.. I am just kind of disappointed.
And thanks for inviting me, I'll look into it. Honestly I'm a super lefty kind of person and I'm just cruising boards. Means a lot you like my perspective. I appreciated what you had to say as well.
>Trump is at least not already planning out how to sell America down the river, so he'll end up doing less damage.
Well yea... aside from making everything "Trump" in China.... and fucking over anyone he does business with... and..
Rasmussen and Gallup are polling too. There are tons of pollsters at work, and they're all showing Hillary ahead. Shit, Breitbart even commissioned their own poll and it still found Clinton ahead by 5.
>make up your mind
I don't need to avoid objective information about the world in order to protect my opinion
The polls are good to know for other reasons, they don't change who I support.