Why don't you own an AR-15 for self-defense and to protect your family, home and country?
Because instead I own an SLR-107, which is just as good if not better than any AR.
I know how to deflect bullets with my katana... there's literally no reason for me to own a gun
Because I dislike the way it looks.
Because any purpose this gun has that i would personally use is done better by other guns.
Fighting the gubment/looters/dindoos ect.
>dmr = SCAR or even FAL
>precision rifle = a magnitude of bolt action rifles
>HD = shotgun or hand gun
I'm not saying its a bad gun but it isn't useful to me. I am thinking about building one in 300 blk with a can and short barrel and night vision scope for a varmet killing but its pricey and requires meme stamps so the ATF doesn't kill my dog.
I'm black living in the US. I know better.
I don't even want to own my kitchen knives. If shit goes down I would get lost among all the dindus and no one would really realize I actually did nothing.
What kind of faggot shots at Autozone?
Napa is the place you want to go.
Advance Auto if you are in a pinch, since it tends to be within 5 minutes people, but Napa is the main goal here.
Piss poor reason. Knifes and guns don't fulfil the same role. You should have both.
Yes they do. That isn't a reason not to own one.
What is the second amendment?
That doesn't mean you can't own guns
Do it anyway. All Americans have a civic duty to arm themselves regardless of race, creed, gender, ect
OP asked why I don't have one. Not having one because I have other priorities is fine. Wanting one for a niche task is also fine.
different anon here but napa has shit replacement parts, especially things like alternators, starters, etc. They changed where they got their stuff from several years ago and it is low quality garbage and you have to suck their dick if you want to take something back and even then they usually tell you to fuck off.
Because cash. Once I get a decent job, though, I'm getting this baby.
Another note: I live in a fairly dense apartment, and I'd be concerned about over penetration if I shot a solid round in here. Buckshot, however...
i was packing up my stuff before i moved to the university. pic was back from 2013 if i remember
she was just a pupper when this all started
ive got plenty of pmags, plus extras ready to sell durring the next panic. pic related, some of my bakalites for my ak too.
Because I have better weapons for self defense and I built my AR-15 to pop woodchucks at 3-400 yards.
that's excuse. complacency with being a slob is a slippery slope. one day you dont make your bed and before you know it you are living in a house filled with 6 feet of garbage and are on Hoarders yelling at people for throwing away your perfectly good dead cat.
00 buck out a 12 gauge will still over penetrate.
Don't get me wrong the mossburg is a nice gun and will defend your home from dindos well but long guns in general aren't very good in tight spaces and depending on the size of your apartment, may not be the best choice. I would recommended a Taurus judge or public defender.
>inb4 hand granade
They aren't that bad. Its a cheap gun that you can load 410 HD shells that won't over penetrate. Also you won't feel bad when the police commandeer it for evidence after you slay a dindo trying to steal your tv.
TLDR: If you have other reasons for getting the Mossberg, get that. If it is purely for HD, I would recommended a cheap tourus meme cannon.
Cause it's finicky, has poor penetration and is useless for fuck all else. I'll stick to my M14 thanks. Least I can go hunting with it and still be able to hit something a click out.
>But, but, muh full auto and 30 round mag
...is for people that MISS. Unless you bring 9 friends, which I doubt you have, I won't be having to reload.
cus even the notion of owning a gun is illegal down in mexico
the only battle rifle I'd trust more than anything made by Fabrique Nationale is an AK
solid rifle that is reliable after all sorts of abuse
Armalite's rifles are not bad, but they have too many quicks for me to chose them for combat over most any battle rifle
Haven't got the money yet, but hope to soon
damm, i thought this post was about ARs lol. but if it makes u feel any better, things have gotten better since moving out.
Because its a shitty weapons system.
I sure as hell wont spend my hard earned money on a piece of metal and plastic. Both guns i have i inherited and have no plans to buy more or use them for self defense. Thats why we have police.
not him but that is wolf gold, regular brass case. wolf does also have their polyformance which is steel case with polymer coating, tula is also steel case, not sure if it has a coating or not. Some steel case stuff, like Brown Bear, has a lacquer coating. Ive shot 1000s of rounds of all of them in my ARs and havent had any problems at all. most people just bitch because they tend to be dirtier than regular brass case ammo
Because I live in Australia land of the batshit licences but can own these and have these
These are shit. While I don't think they should be banned or restricted, automatic fire is overrated. It is useful for suppressive fire and putting a lot of lead at a target you couldn't realistically get a good shot at (like old school aircraft). How you place your shots is much more important than how many you make.
Because i own a C39. Ordered a brace (stock) for it and getting adapter next week. Its a fun gun to shoot
Police are only there for clean up & conflict resolution, not protection. When the shit hits the fan, they will not be there.
If you want protection you have to either
a) hire a security guard or
b) arm and train for your own self defense.
this line of logic has got me close to buying one in the black market, but the problem is that most those guns are "burnt" in other words, most guns in the black market can be traced to anything done up north (very nasty shit)
well, they are a ruthless criminal organization that split from the army so they know their shit around getting guns, plus those smuggled from the us dont usually end in the hands of people looking for means of self defense
all of that is true
but like any weapon you need practice to use it effectively (in roles it was designed for)
and because of the scarcity of civilian owned automatic weapons
few people have the chance to learn how to perform suppressing fire or fire on an aircraft
hmm, I've heard bad things about that revolver.
Really, I don't think it's reasonable, next to the price of the Mossburg. Also, smaller cartridge. I want to start shooting handguns competitively, and either a Beretta 92 or a CZ-75 will serve on the range in production class, but I'm hesitant to trust a nine with my life when I don't have to worry about carrying it all day. I'm kind of interested in the 1911, but I've never shot one before and I have my doubts about competing against 9mm polymer guns with a .45.
PD poly is a next to useless
>can't use speedloaders unless you mod the grip
>shell/brass ejection is a toss up
>45colt is one of the more expensive handgun rounds
>grip is small for anyone with medium sized hand or bigger
>holsters are difficult to find
>stupidily heavy trigger pull
only useful if you HAVE to have .410 on a handgun, and even then firing shotgun rounds from a revolver is rough.
Until one day it isn't. I'm not saying it will happen, but it could. And I would rather you be ready for such a situation than waiting with your thumb up you ass for the police to get there. This >>701630657 anon has it right.
this man has the right ideas. I'd laugh when your AR overpens and you end up shooting a family member.
>Automatic weapons are pointless due to accuracy.
if you are using an automatic for point accuracy, you are using it wrong
and you should give the MG-42 or its successors (other than the M-60) a try
amazingly accurate for a belt fed machine gun
Browning MK-2 is also amazingly accurate
i know, i own one
from my own personal experience, i don't believe the ammo versatility makes up for all the other faults. I'd rather have one handgun fire one caliber with the fewest amount of drawbacks
Because I have the obviously superior Kalashnikov platform.
We have the south american market directly below us, with both guns and drugs. We have piles of pre-existing guns scattered around the country.
The time for deescalation is long gone. We had a few chances to NOT be in this situation, but we're in it now and there is no amount of whining that guns kill people, or claiming that aligning your chakras with the burglar's moon-crest, or whatever other bullshit that can change things.
Police need guns because criminals have guns. Criminals use guns because it give em free power over others AND the police have guns. Civilians need guns because waiting for the police is shitty when the guy about to kill your family has a gun.
Like I said anon, if you have other reasons for getting a gun, don't get this one. But if I had to pick a weapon for the expressed purpose of killing a dindo in my cramped apartment building, it would be this. Also 9mm will make someone just as dead as a .45 (as long as its people we are talking about killing), just keel perforating dindo until dead. CZ 75 is one of my top ten favorite guns and I would recommend it to anyone. It may not be the best gun ever but it is sexy as hell and damn smooth to shoot.
Uhh, you do know he meant how aircraft needed LMG and HMG's on them in order to properly hit something before lock on technology came about. Wasn't refering to firing at an air craft ya dumb shit.
Cause I live in California. It is easier for me to just own a milsurp instead of having to deal with all of the "Common Sense" gun laws here. I can shoot my SMLE faster than a Californian legal AR 15 since you now have to permanently attach the magiaziene in an AR 15 here. In order to load it you have to break it open. My SMLE on the other hand can take two 5 round stripper clips in a few seconds and Im ready to continue.
propeller driven fixed wing and rotary wing (helicopter) aircraft have been frequently taken down in combat with light and heavy machine guns
aim 100m in front of a fixed wing or 50m in front of a rotary wing when they are below 600m agl and within 1km of your position with a machine gun
if you don't take it down, you will put enough led into it that they will either back off or call in a bombing run on you
different anon here, I have no input on the whole competitive shooting stuff but I will take a 40 or 45 over 9mm for self defense at home/in car. I got my ccw recently and had a hard time deciding between 40 and 9mm for my daily carry, had already decided on the model (XD-S). I went with the 9mm for better shootability because the gun is smaller and lighter, but in full size guns i prefer bigger rounds. XD-S is my 1st and only 9mm handgun, I feel perfectly fine with 9 rounds of 9mm HSTs as my edc. Everyone is different.
The russians purposely traded combat effectiveness, performance, etc for ease of production and ruggedness.
The Russian philosophy of weapon design originates in the two world wars, from which they learned that on the modern battlefield the life of equipment is woefully short. My point is that the rifle was designed strictly for the soviet union, their infrastructure, military composition, and largely their logistical/combat doctrines.
The rifle itself is nothing special, it is designed to throw as much lead down range as possible. It is not elegant by western engineering standards, but it did the job the soviets intended it to do.
Looking at a weapon through a one dimensional lens is never good
Ok then, makes me feel a little better going forward. I guess I've just let /k/ get me worked up about 9mm. I guess I'd really only need to score two hits center mass to stop Deequan from caving my skull in, and the CZ would really be much more useful to me than the shotgun.
And we have other people who are waiting in their trucks with the Lynch mob on speed dial. Just waiting for normal black people to look at a weapon for too long.
Nah. Fuck that.
I would rather be armed if I knew some inbred hick wanted to lynch me. Also no one said you had to tell people you where armed. Only an idiot plays cards with his hand revealed.
Because I live in a civilised country where guns aren't necessary for self-defence, or to protect my family or home.
Americans amuse me. Land of the free? Land of the scared and non-provided. Sure, I pay more in tax but my society is more peaceful and much more "free" then yours. You delude yourselves into thinking you're No. 1 but if you have to resort to having your own weaponry for defense against other human beings then you're clearly in a hostile environment. Which you've done to yourselves. Congratulations. Much to your chagrin might ≠ right
Suppressor? If you're not a felon? (although, worrying about sound probably means that you will be soon...)
Also, there are some really weird firearms out there, especially between the world wars. Really beautiful collector shit and mechanical oddities.
Because I'd rather shoot a motherfucker with a double barrel shotgun. Impractical? Kinda. Badass? Totally.
I live in Alberta Canada, and due to the hick nature of my family, I aquired a couple rifles and shotguns cause my dad was into huniting
I figure if I'm gonna go out in a home invasion, I might as well do it as cool as possible
Because my country doesn't need any more protecting, and it would require power tools to break into my house. Prevention is better than the cure. And finally, the AR is probably the last weapon I'd choose for home defence; a good shotgun does way more damage.
Again I would rather be responsible for my own safety than trust my government to do it for me. I would rather be free than safe, but whatever. If you are happy living in your safe space that's fine. I would much rather be the master of my own destiny and accept the risks that come with it.
Yeah, I know you can shoot down a plane. However, we're talking about man-portable automatic rifles. The only reason you mentioned airplanes is because the guy you were responding to mentioned them in the specific manner that old biplanes and ww2 fighters had so much fucking lead spewing firepower because it was harder than fuck to hit shit.
Force is all that matters in the end, that's why your government has a military and a police force. They have laws, but they're just words on paper if they don't have steel and lead behind them.
Problem is, I'm freer then you are. And safer too. Sorry to break it to you. I'm so free i don't NEED guns. That's what you don't understand.
Only if you're paranoid and have a victim complex. A both police and military are a deterrent.
I prefer to use registered short barreled ARs for home defense.
Free to live and die as I see fit. I'm not afraid to die and I'm not afraid to kill. I'm just prepared to do what I need to so that I can live. If you want to trust you safety to someone else that's fine. I would rather do it myself.
sorry for not continuing the conversation in that specific line of thought and try to expand on valid uses of machine guns
I will avoid doing that again
I've actualyl been wondering: How do lych mobs actually get the people out of their homes so they can lynch them?
Threaten them with violence? "If you dont come out so we can kill we you will kill you!" nope. that can't be it.
Threaten (or actually) burn the house? Plausible.
Kill them BEFORE dragging them out of the house and then play with the body afterwards? This one makes the most sense.
It's not so much paranoia, I think anon's arguing for personal agency and self-reliance. I think I hear a little bit of personal pride in there too. Good for you, anon.
Also, you know what they say: When seconds matter, the police are only minutes away.
The TV licence is a tax. Most accept it and get great programming on the BBC including all the multitude of documentaries and satirical comedies on one of the many BBC channels, both on TV and radio. If it was called a tax it might be better because that's what it is..
But I'm also not in the UK so eat a dick. There are many other countries that speak English
2 firearm engineers were testing this. Here's the link
Damn, I love me some slow-motion gun porn...
Not withstanding that the vast,vast majority of people will go through life without so much as a break in let alone an assault or something worse. But anon can just go ahead and live his paranoia infused vision of the rugged macho male beholden to no one heavily armed and fearful of his government. Stupid can't be cured, just minimized.
Yes, there will always be people who misuse force. Still doesn't mean being "stronger" then anyone else is the answer to the problem. It's the atypical US-type response that the world laughs at you about but it's not an actual solution.
lol wat? Have you looked at a map of the world recently? I don't even know what you're talking about? Where do you think I'm from? I'd LOVE to know.
That's fine. They can be fun, I'll agree. At least you're not deluding yourself.
Most countries you can also own them. They may ask you why though. If you're in an apartment building in the middle of a city, you don't need a hunting rifle in your cupboard. They're sensible questions which help to keep guns out of the hands of idiots. The increased security makes everyone safer as a byproduct
Most countries in the world are like that actually.
ive done some mag dumps on it, generally it runs fine, but ive never fired it to the point where barrell heat becomes a problem. i remember getting it just for the sweet ambi lower and the free optic (aimpoint t-1)
I don't think he's gone that far. Jesus, he's just a guy with a gun.
Owning a gun for self defense isn't living in fear of the government. After a certain point, you might be able to paint it as paranoia, but I don't think there's enough evidence here to really support that claim. Yes, a self-defense situation is unlikely, but think of it as a form of insurance. It's not useful all that often, but when it is you REALLY need it.
Also, whatever happened to being macho being a good thing? Sure, in extremes it has its problems, but it seems pretty ok to me.
Why are you people constantly bringing up paranoia? Like actually what the fuck? What is so wrong about wanting to have the means to effectively defend one self?
That's because we've moved on. Maybe if you had a large war on your land you'd feel the same. All your wars on US soil have been small in comparison. Your population has never really suffered the same as European population have.
Also, we know the phrase Once bitten, twice shy.
Still upset about brexit?
>Because you don't actually need to defend yourself because there's nobody to defend yourself from...to think you do means you're paranoid.
>Because you don't actually need to defend yourself because there's nobody to defend yourself from
>Because you don't actually need to defend yourself
Dumbest thing I have read all day....no all month
I used an AR-15 to defend myself when three gangbangers attempted to pull a home invasion robbery in the wee hours of the morning in 2008. Two of them had handguns, but they tan as fast as they could when they saw me pointing my rifle at them.
Because some people live in more cucked states an they therefore have to obtain what ever else the can manage.
Still it's not an excuse to not stock up on at least knifes an bastard guns made in garages of course.
they shouldn't have seen anything but ur muzzle flash.
FFS dude, don't buy a gun and not shoot thieves.
I think this argument is missing the point a little bit.
You don't need to defend yourself all the time, but if you need to, guns are handy, and keeping one on hand is pretty inexpensive. Next to the life of someone you care about, it's practically nothing.
You don't need a gun every day, but it's a lot easier to already have one instead of trying to get one if the need arises. Owning a firearm is a reasonable choice, so long as you do it responsibly.
because pic related will do just fine
>Maybe if you had a large war on your land
US population in 1860 was ~31.5 million
~640 thousand soldiers died in the Civil War
with ~50 thousand civilian casualties
2% of the US population died in that war
in WW1 the various European nations lost between 2% (Australia) and 8% (Serbia and the Austral-Hungarian territories in the Balkans) with all belligerents combined losing between 3% and 4%
we had a war on par with your land grabs
and even then we felt that civilian ownership of firearms was a good idea
Unless you're living in the wilds of Alaska......rioters and looters...maybe you should spend more time bettering yourself and less time obsessing about your guns so you won't have to live in such a place. Real threats for a 99 plus % of society? Not even.
Neat but why is there a Jimmy Neutron logo on it?
As long as your a law abiding citizen an not a dindu or potential edgy school shooter you could at least get kel tec 380 or a cheap derringer anon.
Even poor fags have options anon.
To learn from mistakes, yes that makes us morons. *sigh* you're amazing.
I'm not British so why would I care? You're still not making any sense. Are you British? Are you American? All you seeming to be is a bit of a muppet.
With firearms. Sure, defend yourself by knowing how to stop people hitting you, or simply run away from them. If people want your stuff, and threaten violence, give them your stuff and report it to the police and your insurance company. Then the police will look for the people who stole your stuff and you get a payout from the insurance company and buy new stuff. "Things" aren't worth the chance of getting killed.
Sorry, that's a uniquely US issue. If guns were harder to get, the thieves wouldn't have had guns. I know the old argument is that only thieves would have them but if there were less on the streets, then they'd be more expensive to get and a thief is, generally by definition, poor. Only organised crime syndicates have weapons usually where I live, and they don't want to shoot normal people (only other gangs' members) as it'll bring too much negative attention to the gang from the authorities. So generally, they behave themselves. That's how all gangs work.
a civil war isn't the same by any stretch of the imagination. WW1 and 2 were only the most recent large wars in Europe. We've had centuries of war. One little civil war in the US is hardly anything. 50K civilians? That's really fuck all. Don't even start saying "oh we're just the same" as you're not. You had a few thousand civilians die in WW2 so your population doesn't know actual war. If it did, things might be different.
Meant to reply to this post >>701641583
An thats just if you want a good cheap pistol. Also plenty of revolvers options for poor fags too.
short answer. Im canadian. Cant really own one here. But the plus side is most people here get stabbed rather than shot so im probably better off knowing a martial art than a gun cause im not a pussy.
Because i don't need it? I don't need it to kick someone's ass. And if no one can buy some weapon, i don't need to be protected from someone else got one.
If i live in a tard's prehistoric country where everyone got one, may i buy some.
Like lamborghini you'll never drive 180 mph irl, weapon except if your syrian or someone close too, is just compensation for penis size.
Apologize for english.
>If guns were harder to get, the thieves wouldn't have had guns.
Really? Because I would have to say that weapons around the world are very prevalent despite many international laws
Cuz I own a moist nugget.
>We've had centuries of war.
and yet is wasn't until you had a 30-50 year stretch of peace that you decided to disarm civilians
how many of those wars were due to armed civilians?
almost none of them
how many were due to greedy governments and large standing armies?
almost all of them
Because I'd prefer something other than a glorified .22 to rely on for self defense.
Ever get into a sticky situation and "whelp hold on, let me get my boom stick out of the closet"? No, probably not, because you'd be dead instead of posting dumb threads.
Pistol for self defense, unless you're a moron.
>Unless you're living in the wilds of Alaska
Or you know camping around in the PNW
>rioters and looters
Yes these are threats that can and do appear around America, watched the news lately?
>maybe you should spend more time bettering yourself and less time obsessing about your guns
Why can't I do both? Guns are a great hobby and are very useful. Also its not me I'm worried about, I practice my aim every week.
need to get a mate or two of urs and do those Navy Seal CQB blacked-out goggles training drills.
Really get you into the fighting spirit.
couldn't find the exact one but it's in one of the parts of this Class of 234 show
That's pretty neat, thanks for informing anon.
Because I'm a 20 year old poorfag living with rich parents who can barely afford to feed my lifting appetite, in addition to all the other shit like cars, house and phone bills, groceries for themselves, etc.
I have, however, been wanting to save up for a FAMAS. Damn sexy looking gun, able to spit out all the bullets I could ever wanna spit out, and it's fairly compact for the kind of gun it is. What does /b/ think of the FAMAS?
>With firearms. Sure, defend yourself by knowing how to stop people hitting you, or simply run away from them. If people want your stuff, and threaten violence, give them your stuff and report it to the police and your insurance company. Then the police will look for the people who stole your stuff and you get a payout from the insurance company and buy new stuff. "Things" aren't worth the chance of getting killed.
You say that like I can't have a gun and run away. Its just another option. Bullets are great at getting people to stop hitting you. Also fuck that give them your stuff and run away shit. If I want to stand my ground and protect what's mine I will. If I want to run away and protect my stuff I will. If I have to choose between my life or my stuff obviously my life is more important, but that doesn't mean I have to throw up a white flag every time a someone wants my stuff.
Have you tried to get weapons in many countries or are you basing that on what the media reports about "bad people" in other countries?
I agree, they were. However, you're also meant to improve society, not maintain it at its current level. Guns are only necessary if your society is below a moral and socio-economic threshold. Europe improved theirs.
We also know that a society runs at the speed of the slowest person. The slow people are the idiots who, if they had weapons, would go out and kill lots of people. Hence, we try to remove the possibility of that happening. We all give up our guns and everyone has less of a risk of being shot.
Look at Australia. No mass shootings in over 20 years since stricter gun control. Not saying guns aren't out there because they are. It's just there are far far fewer in the hands of those with socio-economic issues.
When compared to the Real Fucking NATO you're using, sure. But it's still an intermediate cartridge. It'll fuck a nigga up.
Vietnam-era M14s had a select-fire feature. Look it up. It was fucking radical.
>30 round mag
Since when was having moar boolit bad?
Seriously m8, I'm absolutely sure your rifle is lovely, but that's not any reason to hate on the old AR.
>Look at Australia.
>No mass shootings in over 20 years since stricter gun control.
and how many mass shootings were there in the ~100 years prior to that ban?
by your logic penguins are a foolproof defense against polar bears because there are no polar bears in antartica
Why run the risk of getting shot. Plus, new stuff!
Also, it's not hard to not get your stuff stolen in the first place. Live in a better neighbourhood. Don't walk down that dark alley. Y'know, simple stuff.
And how many of those murders involved guns? Deaths in America includes everything, including old age, car crashes etc. Of course it's going to be far larger percentage. Funny how an "unbiased" image is surprisingly biased by not showing the non-natural causes statistic
it doesnt really rustle me but yeah i got mags.
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Did you know that you are 5 times more likely to be struck and killed by lightning than you are by a bullet from an assault rifle? Or that you are 50 times more likely to die by choking to death on chewing gum?
My license only alow me to own one type of firearm. Naturally I stuck with my finger gun so I can finger bang your girlfriend all night.
Well as long as your not a cartel drug lord or a dindu you should take up arms for your own safety, only criminals an few people who value their lives own guns.
Be someone who values their life instead of someone cucked to death by politicians, an drug lords. Just get a simple an practical pistol in 9mm or 380 an don't be some fagget who shows of his gun like a stereotypical red neck.
>and what do I have to protect my country from, exactly?
Yep, because that makes sense...
>and how many mass shootings were there in the ~100 years prior to that ban?
by your logic penguins are a foolproof defense against polar bears because there are no polar bears in antartica
Hello strawman, how are you?
You're paranoid, and in charge of a deadly weapon. I'm glad I don't live near you.
>There are plenty of other good reasons to own a gun. Fun is just one of many
Not really, unless you mean you like cleaning it or something. Using it as a display piece? Propping up your ego? Making your penis feel larger? As a scare tactic because you're big and scary and paranoid?
Yep, and accidents happen. Same with the "but knives kill people, and cars. Why don't we ban them?" arguments. Guess what a guns ONLY purpose is. ONLY purpose. To kill. Cars, knives, lightning, chewing gum etc are all something else before they're used as implements of killing.
steel core 5.56 (green tip) does
at least soviet body armor
this turned into a weakness in Iraq and Afghanistan
the round would pass through the unarmored people strung out on the adrenaline of combat w/o them missing a beat
>invented a gun
>a rifle which has played a critical role in history
>a design which has been praised and denounced, served hero and villain alike, both liberated and enslaved, it carries with it moral responsibility
>to know this rifle is to better understand history and mankind
Tyranny anon. To defend against tyranny. Literally why we have the second amendment in the first place.
That doesn't happen anywhere else in the world. I doubt it ever really happened in the US. Maybe a few people, who were walking around in clearly stupid areas.
So basically, the picture is saying "if you have a gun, you can walk through the ghetto in peace". In most countries, we have street smarts and we choose not to walk through the ghetto to start off with. After all, why would we? It's dangerous and not a very nice place to be so we'd go a nicer route. Nicer routes don't include the risk of being killed. Hence we don't need a gun. That's just human nature and not being arrogant.
>Guess what a guns ONLY purpose is. ONLY purpose. To kill.
If that is true, then why are they only wanting to ban so-called 'assault rifles'? Especially since 95% of all gun-related deaths are committed by criminals who are using handguns. So, why don't they go after handguns instead? Doesn't that seem a little backwards?
>There are plenty of other good reasons to own a gun. Fun is just one of many
>Not really, unless you mean you like cleaning it or something.
Spent an hour this evening sitting on my deck and shooting squirrels & chipmunks raiding my garden.
So its to fight an overreaching government? Not trying to shill, but holy shit, you think you stand a chance against the government? Wew lad. You realize it's now legal for them to airstrike you before you even get to use your gun, right?
>why do you think a shotgun is better for HD than a rifle?
>>inb4 rifles over penetrate but im using buckshot lol
my tube is loaded with (in order of round fired)
>Nos. 4 shot until full
I also like shotguns for the pucker factor
staring down a big gauge barrel leaves no chance of the target thinking that are not about to get fucked up
>But Islam is a religion of peace an will surely assimilate into the west, don't be racist to Arabs an North Africans.
It's funny how SJWs are unironically racist themselves because they seem to believe every Arab an North African practices Islam, in fact before the migrant crisis a large amount of the immigrants coming to the west weren't Islamist or were at least not Wahhabis but people who studied something worth coming to the west for.
We should encurage SJWs to actually read a Koran for once.
interestingly enough i'd rather shoot m855 at my steel targets than m193.
the higher velocity lead core shit actually tears shit up harder not to mention produces some horrifying wounds when you're within fragmentation velocity range.
>Of the cartridges tendered, the 5.56×45mm NATO was successful, but not the 55 gr M193 round used by the U.S. at that time. Instead, the Belgian 62 gr SS109 round was chosen for standardization. The SS109 used a heavier bullet with a seven grain steel core for better penetration against lightly armored targets,specifically to meet a requirement that the bullet be able to penetrate through one side of a steel helmet at 600 meters. It had a slightly lower muzzle velocity but better long-range performance. This requirement made the SS109 (M855) round less capable of fragmentation than the M193 and was considered more humane.
why are you abiding niggers instead of removing them? are you italian or something?
why not just shoot them when you shoot them the first time? you going to collect good guy points from someone somewhere?
if you need to shoot to begin with, you need them to be shot proper.
you shouldn't be virtue signaling with bean bags when your or your families' lives are on the line.
>In most countries, we have street smarts and we choose not to walk through the ghetto to start off with.
That's not "street smarts".
>Not really, unless you mean you like cleaning it or something. Using it as a display piece? Propping up your ego?
No killing things. Inb4 like what? >>701641389
We have been over this. You are literally going in circles now. Also guns can be very pretty too
>Making your penis feel larger? As a scare tactic because you're big and scary and paranoid?
Why are you constantly bringing up dicks and paranoia. Honestly it seams like you are projecting at this point.