FUCKING SHIT /b/ this just happened
>hear a knock on my door at 12:30 am
>look at peep hole and saw 3 black males
>they keep knocking and there is no vehicle parked in front of my home
>turn on the street light and they begin to walk away
>call 9/11 and within 5 minutes 3 police cruisers circle around my block and briefly question me
Does this mean I should purchase a weapon for self defence?
if so what type? always wondered about getting the infamous AR-15 but not sure if thats good enough compared to a shotgun
Budget : $900
>living in CA btw
>>701491869
CA doesn't allow ARs anymore. Sorry anon. You gotta go with a pistol, but be prepared to wait a few months.
Just get a pistol Walter p22 with suppressor good little pistol to scare away those negroid fucks.. they're brutal watch out !
>>701492028
are you fucking serious ??
>>701492138
Yeah man, CA gun laws are atrocious, and get worse and worse all the time.
>>701491869
>turn on the street light
nigga wat
>>701491869
get a pitbull
>>701492057
CA doesn't allow any NFA items. Supressors are banned.
>>701492434
Probably meant the outside light for his porch.
I'm currently looking for a good handgun am from texas. Don't really know what I'm doing.
>>701491869
Doesn't CA have that super long waiting law period?
I live in SC, know a guy who co owns a gun shop, recently moved into sketchy neighborhood and he hooked me up with a decent pump shotgun for like 200 bucks. Same day. We are all racist as fuck but it's a nice place to live if you love guns and trailer trash.
>>701492138
Look up ghost guns and find a dealer
>>701492882
Lotta people before have recommended browning firearms but I was looking at them in a catalog and their like $500 is this normal for handguns?
>>701491869
get a shotgun and some birdshot
make sure you don't use buck for home defense
OP, get an SLR-107. It might be about $1050 brand-new but you won't regret it. Easy to shoot, fantastic build quality, can beat the shit out of it and just abuse it and it'll still keep on chugging along. Also, if you unfortunately ever do need to pull it out to use it, there mere sight of such a weapon is guaranteed to make even SUPER GIGA NIGGA shit his pants and cry for forgiveness.
>>701491869
Mosey on down Socal OP move into a neighborhood with wannabe mexican "cholos" believe me the least you're gonna worry about is if there's gonna be a party going on near your house till 5am or something
>>701492138
its a 10 day waiting period in california for any firearm. even if you bought it from a private seller.
>mfw i can walk into a gun store in wisconsin and buy any firearm i can afford and walk out 20 minutes later with it.
so glad i got out of commiefornia
Just buy a bat or some shit. Don't be an idiot anon. You don't need a fucking gun, if you didn't look like a victim already they wouldn't bye knocking on your door. Maybe work on that too
>>701493226
I second this idea although it's a bit beyond the stated budget OP sir
>>701493686
What if they have guns? You expect op to fight them off with a bat?
>>701493686
3v1
yeah those niggers are gonna shove that bat right up his ass
>>701491869
It's never too late to begin thinking about home defense.
>>701493920
its never too early*
when they're busting in his door its a bit too late
>>701493789
Call the police. Give them whatever they came to steal and move on with life. No point in initiating a shoot out with people meaner and more desperate than you
>>701494033
He should still be packing some heat the cops are not always gonna be there before shit turns bad
>>701491869
get AR and luger pistol just for fun because you feel like nazi oficer with it
>>701491869
Don't be dumb OP. I live in Cali too, you'd be better off with a nice .22 or even a .38 special revolver. Something fun that you can take to the range, not something conspicuous. Learn how to use it the right way so you can actually defend yourself. Armalite Rifle is just a name, and doesn't protect you as much as your own confidence and practice.
>>701493226
SLR107 guy checking in. OP if you can't own a good assault rifle like the SLR-107, recommend a good defensive shotgun loaded with 12ga 00 buckshot. Remington 870 is a good choice. Cheap, reliable and deadly in close quarters. Plus the buckshot won't penetrate walls and shit as much since your adrenaline will be pumping and you'd be in full-on tunnel vision in such a situation, so the rounds that YOU WILL miss will have less of a chance of hurting others.
>>701493865
Then call the police, I've never been in a sketchy situation where a firearm would have made it better. If he pulls a gun on those niggers they'll start shooting and op will be dead. If op calls the police they can handle it. That's their job
>>701494033
What if all they want is to just beat the shit out of op maybe even kill op all in the name of #blacklivesmatter?
>>701492882
get a glock .40 caliber they shoot very smooth
>>701494323
buckshot WILL penetrate walls
use bird
>>701494323
Also, I don't think a group of 3 black guys (even if they were very large) would be willing to risk it with someone wielding a shotgun. If they were stupid enough (well let's face it, they're niggers!!) 12ga would have more than enough stopping power to knock them down
>>701494339
>I've
Well lucky you anon. Some others don't have that luxury.
>>701494368
Then OP looks like a timid bitch who the niggers think they can fuck with. That's his fault.
>>701493125
$500 sounds about right for an entry-level handgun.
>>701494308
A trained OP is live OP even if it may be unnecessary I'm sure OP will still like having a gun just in case
>>701494033
are you daft? nevermind, the answer to that is apparent. police are (delayed response) reactive, not proactive, dummy. better to have a plan and not need it than need it and not have it. kinda hard to move on with life when youre dead because those 'mean mean desperate people' didnt want to leave any witnesses, bozo...but surely those guys just wanted to welcome him to the neighborhood with a fruit basket or something and op is a racist for not opening the door, right???.....smh.
>>701494339
It is his right to defend himself and his property. Pacifism won't always solve everything. "It is better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it"
Castle Doctrine
California § Penal Code 198.5 "Any person using force intended or likely to cause death or great bodily injury within his or her residence shall be presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily injury to self, family, or a member of the household when that force is used against another person, not a member of the family or household, who unlawfully and forcibly enters or has unlawfully and forcibly entered the residence and the person using the force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry occurred."
>>701494684
I don't know anon but I'll ask.
Op do you look like a bitch?
>>701494794
Really? Fuck I need to do more research I guess I really want a handgun nothing huge in caliber but effective and reliable.
Get a judge revolver, it can fire .410 (small shotgun) and .38 (pistol round). If you have more questions start a thread on /k/ those guys know more than me.
>>701491869
Buy a pistol for self defense, rifles are a bit bulky for immediate situations such as confronting tyrone and his nigg nogs.
>>701491869
Canada or California ('defence')...
>>701494339
Castle Rock Vs. Gonzales.
The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that the police are not required to protect citizens: All they're responsible for is picking up the pieces afterwards.
>>701491869
There wasn't a car in your drive because they broke down around the corner and were coming to you for help you racist fuck
ITT: lots of small dick gun owners.
>>701491869
>Does this mean I should purchase a weapon for self defence?
Reinforce your door with one of those frame braces so it'll be much harder to kick in. Set up a sprinkler on a motion detector so that if anyone walks on your lawn at night they get wet. Surprisingly effective.
The thing about shooting someone is the paperwork et cetera. WELL MR. ANON DID YOU FEEL YOUR LIFE WAS THREATENED WHEN THOMAS J DINDU BROKE IN YOUR HOME..?
>>701492724
no
>>701492882
i meant the light literally on my porch
>>701493100
just looked it up yes
>>701493101
not looking into going on the black market with a bunch of cartel members man
>>701493226
very interesting suggestion, i guess $1050 isnt too bad if its that reliable and easy to shoot as ive never really had any experience with any fiream
>>701493686
>bat
>>701493686
how you gonna swing a bat in a doorway?
>>701494921
But how well does that hold up in California? I know that several other states have similar doctrines, but the actual enforcement of them ranges over an enormous spectrum.
kek
>>701494921
>>701495306
You're a giant pussy for wanting a gun because some black folks knocked on your door OP
>>701494921
>who unlawfully and forcibly enters
they got to force their way in before you shoot 'em. That means one toe over the doorstep and blammo
>>701495424
Can you not read?
>>701494339
Your a democrat aren't you...
>>701495582
People knock on your door at midnight, you don't recognize them, I'd be a bit nervous too but I already own a gun sooo
>>701495582
Knocked in the middle of the night, op was probably about to Jerk it not expecting anyone. What do you think they wanted? A donation. For them church programs?
>>701495702
I definitely don't want any fucking randoms at my door at 12am even if it's some fucktard that may not look dangerous
>mfw get a bat prepare for 3v1
>mfw when don't shoot ppl more desperate than u
What the fuck level autism. OP buy the fucking gun and Smoke those nigs next chance you get. Fuck these pussy pansy ass libtards
>>701495582
fuck you piece of shit dumbfuck motherfucker no one is supposed to knock on your door at that fucking time asshole
>>701495582
3 dudes knock on your door at midnight? What purpose could they possibly have to be there? What are you gonna do, open it up and let them take your tv and rape your girlfriend?
>>701496019
He'd probably like that I'm sure his gf has been feeding him cuck stories.
>>701491869
dude, anon, the answer to your problems is totally like, dude, there's like this movie and this guy, he needs to regulate shit on a dimensional level and so he just goes to the store and he's like just, "12 gauge autoloader, .45 long slide with laser sighting, phased plasma rifle in 40W range, uzi 9mm"... you should be able to get that shit at like any corner store... it's that easy. you're welcome, /b/ro/
>>701494951
Glock is best in terms of cost effectiveness and very accurate as well as easily repaired and reliable. Go to a range and try out different types to see which you are most comfortable with.
buying a shotgun or AR15 style rifle is cool and all... but they are both very cumbersome and bulky when it comes to home defense.
Just get a good 9mm pistol, a M&P or Glock 17 are great.
A hand gun is easy to stash in your home, and in a pinch you can use it with one hand, hence the name hand gun... you cant shoot a rifle/shotgun with one hand, or at least you cant shoot it properly.
The big thing is you only shoot if they enter your home, and don't be a dumb ass like you see on tv and just stand out in the open in your living room, firing off shot after shot at them.Use some cover or peek out from something big and heavy in case they have guns too.
>>701495839
Exactly my point
>>701495244
Ive killed a niglet intruder.
>"Mr. Anon if you'd step outside wed like to take your statement."
>"you can speak to my lawyer."
>"we just want tp piece together what happened here. You're not in trouble."
>"lawyer"
It REALLY started to piss them off.
When i got ahold of my layer his only response was "oh thank god" when I told him that I made no statements even about being fearful.
The statement I ended up giving was two sentences
"I alerted the intruder to my presence who then came at me in a threatening manner. Fearing for my life I shot him in self defense."
White man shooting a nigger, they wanted to try and charge me with something to avoid a chimpout
>>701491869
Just go buy a can of "Raid" bug killer! That should take care of them Moon Crickets... Or hang a "help wanted" sign on your front door! A job is like Kryptonite to those Porch Monkeys!
>>701496354
That happens even when blacks kill blacks these days.
fuck i live in CA too, where specifically? I live in a ghetto ass neighborhood but this never happens
>>701495628
I can. However, I frequently socialize with both police officers and lawyers, and have come to the realization that the wording of these kinds of laws are open to interpretation.
For example, prosecutors will argue that the homeowner's fear of bodily harm was not reasonable, using character witnesses to convince a jury that they were obviously harmless, or to discredit the defendant. You'll recall that this was the exact strategy used in the Zimmerman trial.
Another trick is to simply bring up other charges. Sure, this law says you can use lethal force to defend your home from intruders, but you still discharged a firearm within city limits.
Finally, even if you win in court, you may still be subject to civil suits from "the victim"s" family, in which case the only thing that really matters is how the judge feels about firearms.
Yeah, I can read, /b/ro. I'm just trying to read between the lines.
It sounds like those 3 nigs were testing the waters. Its odd that they did this at night, it seems like the most popular break-ins (at least where I live) are the mid afternoon burglaries. They case the whole neighborhood in the afternoon, when everyone is at work or school and just start knocking on doors seeing whos home and whos not, then they kick the door in and grab what they can
>>701496515
The fucking media didn't help either posting that younger pic and not his current pic. No wonder why he doesn't give a shit.
>>701496307
I'd have to agree with a hand gun because I don't think you outright want to kill the other person if you can manage to have them bleeding on the floor unable to do anything instead
>>701494033
you're a faggot
>>701496665
There ya go! How would the local media cover the story in California? "White man shoots three unarmed black youths?"
You missed your opportunity to legally kill someone. Oh well, better luck next time
Remember """""""I feared for my life"""""""
>>701496897
Their mom and dads would be on tv "they dindu nufgin, they just tryin tah sell magazines for a school trip"
>>701496515
Castle doctrine defense happens pre-jury.
>>701496801
If someone is threatening your life at close range a handgun may not be enough.
Contrary to what movies show, shooting a 200lb man running at you with a 9mm handgun isn't going to stop him unless you dump the whole mag.
HIfe might not even realize he's been shot until after he's bashed your brains in.
If it's close range you won't be able to fire fast enough.
A shotgun is best for home defence.
>>701496801
in majority of situations you would want to make sure that the individual that broke into your home did die. i know in wisconsin we have castle doctrine, which allows us to shoot any individual that poses a threat to anyone in our homes that are not wanted. but if you do not kill them, you could face legal actions against you. they could sue, it has happened before. also, you dont just shoot once and watch them bleed out. you shoot until they stop moving, once they stop and are no longer a threat to you, then you stop.
>>701497411
Contrary to what you just said: 2 bullets in center of mass on a 400 lb man will render them unable to fight in 1 minute and dead in 4 (with no drugs involved and no medical help)
>>701497206
Great! Educate me on how it works in California:
Who makes the call? A judge? The prosecutor? A grand jury? How are they influenced by the media, politics, and public opinion? How often is the Castle Doctrine upheld compared to how often these cases are tried in CA?
>>701497411
>has never shot a shotgun in the dark without hearing protection in an enclosed space.
>>701497411
This is also I'd just try to at least not to kill the tard if I can avoid it they're both valid points I'm guessing the specific firearm and caliber would also matter but anyways only the OPs safety is in question right now and I think some good pros and cons have been posted then again I'm no gun expert
>>701497620
One minute is a long time in a fight.
>>701494339
What else happened though, OP? What were they wearing? Did they dress like if they were going to do a home invasion? I live in Cali too (LA) so I hear about that shit all the time but have never experienced it. I'm scared as shit since my gay liberal family won't keep guns around.
>>701497455
We're not talking about gunning down someone you already incapacitated with your first 1-3 shots.
You may be able to get away with it legally but that is still murder.
>>701497455
>you shoot until they stop moving, once they stop and are no longer a threat to you, then you stop.
Bad advice.
If you put a shot in the back that can open you up to murder charges automatically.
I cant speak to WI law, but where I live a guy shot an intruder twice. When he started crawling to get away he shot the guy in the back of the head.
Charged with murder.
>>701497620
1 minute is more than enough time for him to close 15ft distance and kill you.
>>701497653
I'd rather have hearing problems than be dead fam.
Also, .410 buckshot with flashlight. Problem solved, no hearing damage
>>701497939
Its not about hearing problems. Its about the temporary incapacitation that renders you with impaired senses in a deadly situation.
>>701497853
Cali? You and OP are confirmed for little bitches.
>>701498066
Like I said. 410.
>>701497653
>has never shot a 9mm without hearing protection in an enclosed space
9mm is about 160 decibels
12ga is about 155
>>701497903
He should most definitely be charged with murder. That's straight up execution at that point holy shit.
>>701497628
Justifiable Homicide by way of Trespassing (castle Doctrine) is never tried: if you get to Jury, you are at the point of Regular Justifiable Homicide.
99% of cases wherein a person is shot on home premise, where there is evidence of Trespassing, do not go to court.
The Prosecutor looks at the evidence (put together by the police) and decides that a Judge would throw it out on Justifiable Homicide; even if they do press it, the Judge throws it out 99% of the time; and even if he does not, the defence is allowed to press it to a grand jury and they will throw it out (99.99% in CA)
No cases wherein the intruder was shot dead after trespassing in the last 5 years have come to court that I know of.
Castle Doctrine literally says: There is no Case to be had.
>>701497767
Not when 95% of your ability to fight is removed immediately, "unable to fight" means completely unconscious.
>>701498087
Please don't teleport behind me I'm scared
>>701494422
Maybe if the house is made from cardboard that you Americans use
>>701498444
Ay our cardboard makes us feel somewhat safe
get your self a whip to scare them niggers
>>701498444
It might, it might not.
The birdshot is MUCH LESS LIKELY to pierce the wall and hit the people you're trying to protect.
>>701498294
Excellent, thanks for the information! We are still talking about California, right?
Some of these replies keep mentioning that the assailant will live minutes after he gets shot and then kill you.
That's true, most of the time the person who gets shot has drugs or just natural adrenaline pump threw his body and will be able to shot back or swing a bat or beat you with his fists for quite a few minutes after being shot.
That's why you shoot and move, that's basic gun training, shoot and move, shoot and find cover or safety, even if that means running away.
>a. You answer the door and ask what the fuck they're playing at.
>b. Jason Voorhees them all with one stab of a torn off support beam in the cabin.
>c. Chihchi chi chi chichichi
>>701498444
buckshot is on the bottom
that is actual size
do you want to risk pellets that size going through your walls?
>>701497939
Here is how a bullet wound works:
It causes Shock Almost instantly
This leads to (in the immediacy)
Loss of control of Limbs
Loss of control of Nerves
Pain
Shutdown of major internal organs
Liver failure
Kidney failure
Lung failure
Heart failure
Those are the affects of 1 bullet wound to center of mass; 2 typically worsens effects immensely
.
Good luck trying to move, much less run or attack during the average 1 minute of consciousness you have.
>>701498760
Yes, also everywhere else that has castle doctrine as well.
>>701498936
Feels bad
>>701498936
its not like the movies bro, all that damage to internal organs does not shut down the brain or nervous system which can still react and allow the body to continue moving for minutes after. Yes death will usually result after damage to those organs, but the bad guy may still have time to pull a trigger, or swing a hammer or do some other damage.
Read up on that incident that caused the FBI to change what caliber gun they issued to their agents because of some shoot out where the bad guy got shot multiple times and didn't drop and still kept shooting for 5 minutes.
In the end the FBI went back to 9mm because they realized that no matter how big the caliber the dude would of still kept coming, unless they hit him in the brain or the bullet broke a major leg bone to make him fall down.
>>701495993
kek'd
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_FBI_Miami_shootout
>>701498936
http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=974_1440602794
Now image it's a man instead of a woman and hes running at you.
Notice how she keeps running after being shot multiple times
>>701498808
My brother and his group would get the bus to Keighley from Bradford. Go robbing houses, shops, people, car stereos, any items of value. They knew they would be identified and taken in guaranteed if walking around with a load of loot at 3am, so they would hide it all, steal a car from Keighley, pick up the items and drive back to Bradford.
No one ever shit on their own doorstep where I grew up. Someone did not so long ago and a car pulled up outside and just started shooting the fuck out if it. Police mowing their grass after that.
>>701499467
Hi: I am a Paramedic.
>>701499728
You do know that in that event he only managed to hit her shoulder; not a "Center of Mass" shot. A shoulder shot is called an "Extremities shot" and basically doesn't matter.
>>701499711
As stated in the article: 1 shot to shoulder did almost nothing to stop him.
1 shot to chest ended the firefight immediately.
>>701500178
She was shot in the chest and head.
>>701500178
Addendum: 2 shots to chest - one to lung and one to lower abdomen
4 shots to extremites
As I said : 2 shots to center of mass removes people from fight
>>701500178
>only managed to hit her shoulder
"According to the state medical examiner's office, Parker died from gunshot wounds to her head and chest"
>>701500447
>>701500577
You are correct; I was linking that in my head toa different incident from 3 years ago, not the one last year.
It is 3:33 where I am I am a little loopy
She also died in under 2 minutes according to the autopsy.
So again, 2 center of mass shots.
>>701500178
OH SHIT!
She died from a shoulder hit? Oh fuck man, I better be careful how I treat my shoulder now.
You know damn well one or more of those shots hit mid mass and fucked up some organs, yet she still kept running.
She didn't die from bleeding out from a shoulder hit flesh wound dummy.
>>701500474
You're just digging yourself deeper. Just admit you were wrong.
You realize people have even survived shots to the head, right?
>>701491869
Just pick up a nice shotgun and get some buckshot. Will fucking shred a nigger and it'll scare the fuck outta the rest if one gets hit. They'll run and never come back.
Supplement the gun with a security camera mounted above your door. Niggers will always choose to rape and pillage homes that do not have cameras.
>>701500732
Because she was also shot in the head you moron
>>701491869
Nah man, you live in a shit state. Even if you're in the right, some dindu nuffins will still find a way to rape you in court. Shit, do you guys even have castle doctrine, or stand your ground there?
>>701500732
count out 2 minutes quietly in your head to yourself... I wonder what I could do to you in 120 seconds.
Your point is once again proven to be false and stupid
>>701500825
It is not survival that matters in a fight; it is staying mobile and conscious. which never happens after 2 center of mass shots or head shots (barring drugs, medical help or external help).
>>701500736
According to Eyewitness reports, she ran for 4 steps and fell. Then she was shot again and died.
>>701501023
She lost consciousness almost immediately (she only made it a few steps away)
She DIED 2 minutes later due to blood loss and brain damage.
>>701500178
As Platt climbed out of the passenger side car window, one of Dove's 9 mm rounds hit his right upper arm and went on to penetrate his chest, stopping an inch away from his heart. The autopsy found Platt’s right lung had collapsed and his chest cavity contained 1.3 liters of blood, suggesting damage to the main blood vessels of the right lung. Of his many gunshot wounds, this first was the primary injury responsible for Platt’s eventual death.
this first ----- FIRST
was the primary injury responsible for Platt’s eventual death.-------EVENTUAL
>>701501214
And was 1 of 2 center of mass shots (and a lousy one that penetrated an extremity first)
Guess he stopped fighting: It was the 2nd center of mass shot.
>>701501130
>It is not survival that matters in a fight
>It is not survival that matters in a fight
>It is not survival that matters in a figh
ACTUAL EMT here, hello.
Just wanted to say you're an idiot.
2 center mass shots is not enough to reliably stop a threat.
There is a reason police are trained to magdumb when they feel their life is in danger. They are not trained to just fire 2 center mass.
Especially when the attacker may be armed, it would only take 2 seconds for them to pull and fire.
>>701501309
the first shot went into an extremity and entered the chest via that extremity and fucked up his lung and stop near or in the heart, and he was still able to kill 2 FBI agents and injured a third.
Why was he able to still kill FBI agents if one of those bullets his his middle mass and damaged his lung and heart?
hmmmmmmmmmm?
>>701492276
>not allowed to buy a machine that is designed to kill on a wide scale
>law is atrocious
I'll never understand Americans for this
>>701500867
>IT'S GOT GOOD SPREAAAD
Racist! you think just cuz they are black they were planning to hurt you? What if they were just looking for their dog?
>>701500732
You sound kinda retarded. The whole 2 shot thing is all good and dandy, when you're under stress and your adrenaline is pumping, a lot of your shots are gonna be off. This is why lots of cops, military and other trained peeps will almost mag dump into some one.
Like this vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aor69n6Pg0E
He starts mag dumping onto him, even the woman shot at him too. Reports said it was like 13 or 14 shots fired at him, only four rounds hit him. He was only feet away from him, they have training, still lots of miss.
If any thing, you sound like a no guns fag.
Also, why is this thread not on /k/? Is it cause so many fags in here shit posting, they know every one on /k/ would call them out?
>>701501743
It's designed to fire small bits of metal very fast.
Go brush your teeth.
Also, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
that's why it's atrocious
>>701501778
Who the fuck checks out a house at 00:30?
Jahovas? Nah.
And why would peaceful people go away when the lights turn on?
You're fucking stupid.
>>701495201
This
>>701495243
and this
>>701501778
And they thought it might be in a strangers house?
Regardless, they have no right to be on his private property, even if they were looking for their put bull.
>>701501924
My rules may be different than your rules. But most of my friends and family follow these rules.
After 10 o-clock, anyone knocking on your door is shady, but it may just be an odd situation.
After midnight anyone knocking on your door better have a fucking big emergency or the cops are getting called.
>>701501536
Actually they are told to Magdump because in Fighting circumstances, accuracy plummets and the average 4 hits out of 20. So to achieve 2 center of mass shots, they usually have to magdump anyways.
>>701501567
Well, it appears that he got 2 good shots on an FBI agent (1 before inital wounding 1 after), 1 bad one on an FBI agent. and his partner managed the same.
Seems to me that a second Center of mass shot removed 4 people from the fight.
The Shotgun probably helped too.
>>701501866
I am totally in favor of guns here; anything that make you more likely to hit with those two shots is a plus for me.
I am mostly talking about the initial cirumstances the OP presented : Knowing where the enemy is and getting a jump on them.
In that circumstance, hitting in center of mass always removes the person from the fight.
>>701491869
Shit stale pasta
>>701495201
Statistics disagree.
If a muslim dressed heavily suddenly starts shouting Allahu Ackbar in a store you will run.
You won't think "oh he must really loves God"
Your going to have to show someone that took 2 Center Of Mass shots and continued fighting (without use of drugs or medical help), otherwise all of this is pointless.
>>701502308
>hitting in center of mass always removes the person from the fight.
You can say that as many times as you want, you've been proven wrong by me and others multiple times.
Im done schooling you. I hope you get attacked some day and after those two center of mass shots don't stop him from running at you... you keep on explaining to him... "BUT NO! THOSE CENTER MASS SHOTS ARE SUPPOSE TO STOP YOU! YOU MUST STOP NOW! STOP!
>>701500178
>Hi: I am a Paramedic.
delusional van driver alert
>>701502367
?? explain
>>701502686
I would love you to point to the post that disproves me; go ahead.
I see nothing that counters that 2 shots to center of mass will remove you from the fight.
>>701502549
Somali AAR. Fucking COD cuck. Go serve faggot.
>>701502549
You cant talk to him because hes dead but his name was Michael Platt. He killed 2 agents and injured another AFTER being shot twice, one of those in the chest.
One bullet, in particular, was singled out as the "shot that failed." Fired by Special Agent Jerry Dove, this 9mm bullet struck Platt's right forearm, entered his right ribcage, and stopped an inch from his heart. Platt survived to fight for four more minutes, eventually killing agents Dove and Benjamin Grogan.
http://www.policemag.com/channel/patrol/articles/2011/05/5-gunfights-that-changed-law-enforcement.aspx
>>701503044
>eventually killing agents
?????
so he shot and killed cops even after they had shot him in the chest? I thought in the movies you get shot and fall down?
ER room nurse. Centre Mass? You mean that giant torso full of redundant systems? Next youll be saying a headshot is effective?
Only effective target for reliable takedown is the spine. Good luck with that robocop.
Most people dont even realise theyve been shot until the bloodloss kicks in. Adrenaline motherfucker. You wont have heard of it cause your a cuck.
>>701502920
We have:
FBI: 2 shots removed from fight (two guys two)
VA shooting : 1 shot removed from fight, 2nd killed; two people as well.
>>701503044
And he was removed from the fight on his second shot to the chest; as I have pointed out over and over again?
The first caused instability; it allowed him to continue the fight
The second; removed him from the fight "The bullet penetrated Platt's chest and bruised the spinal cord, ending the gunfight.[24]"
And guess what: all of the Agents he killed, were also removed after the second time they were hit in the chest or head!
>pussy OP shits his pants because 3 black dudes knocked his door at 12:00 am
>implying 3 black dudes with the intention to kill/rob OP would be decent enough to knock his door first and then risk getting shot.
It's a shame they didn't kill you.
>>701503044
Also: That first shot is almost the weakest possible shot to a chest you can get; it went through his arm first, only a shot through the shoulder blade into the chest is weaker.
This is normally considered a "Penetrating Extremity shot"
>>701503249
That's what Ive heard from CC Instructors.
You have to shoot the brain, the spine, or a major leg bone to stop someone from continuing.
They've come for your weed, the police have as well.
>>701503376
>second shot to the chest
so there was a FIRST shot to the chest, this magical area you call center of mass that makes the bad guy fall down and die.
After that first bullet to the chest he fought for 4 more minutes injuring and killing agents.
Maybe we are arguing about symantics... I agree that shots to the chest/ center mass will kill.... but they don't kill immediately all the time. The FBI shoot out is proof of that.
>>701503249
I have to ask: where is the Spine Located?
If bullets in the center of mass won't take someone down, what is the point of bullets?
>>701491869
>infamous ar-15
its one of the best selling weapons in america
just because the liberal media smears some semblance of the iconic ar doesn't mean you have to be a bitch about it
Former LEO here.
Too tired to school you guys, but let me suggest you read about auditory occlusion. Also we are not trained to mag dump, thats ridiculous. Cops mag dump and often only think they pulled the trigger once or twice when questioned for AAR or during the mandatory psych eval post incident.
>>701491869
If you're close to another state just go purchase a nice little Mossberg 12 gauge or something for a few hundred bucks op.
>>701503900
ALMOST ALL OF MY POSTS HAVE BEEN
>>701497620
>>701498936
>>701500474
>>701500732
TWO SHOTS CENTER OF MASS
REMOVES FROM FIGHT NOT KILL
CHRIST CAN YOU PEOPLE NOT FUCKING READ?
>>701503928
Bad guy is facing you---------
Spine is located BEHIND multiple organs and ribs that have the nasty habit of deflecting bullets.
>>701491869
I got no guns but I do have a machete and another big bayonet style knife for occasions like this. I recommend arming yourself with at least something OP
>>701504108
And where on the human body would you aim at an opponent that is facing you to hit said spine?
>>701504163
Would it be the legs?
The left arm?
>>701504163
Maybe the Shoulder?
>>701504095
>REMOVES FROM FIGHT NOT KILL
Didn't seem to remove that guy from the fight who shot 2 FBI agents after having a bullet enter his chest and collapse his lung and damage his heart.
He kept fighting, didn't get "removed from the fight"
>>701491869
You need to start fucking your wife properly so she stops making eyes at random niggers.
>>701504358
Yes it did?
The second chest shot ended the firefight.
>>701504317
LOL!
yeah the shoulder
did you see that one lady reporter, she got FUCKED UP from just one bullet to the shoulder
>>701501924
It's sole purpose is to kill shit, mate.
You fucking tards with your stupid amendments and your FREEDOM.
And you wonder why your country is a pile of garbage??
>>701504358
Oh, you can't read either?
ITS TWO FUCKING SHOTS NUMBNUTS.
>>701504444
chekc'd
>>701504444
O hey Quads.
>>701504444
You said it yourself
the SECOND shot to the chest
and between the first shot to the chest and the second was 4 minutes, when he killed 2 FBI agents and injured more
>>701491869
enjoy your freedom you shit scared american losers
>>701504595
See
>>701504095
Or can you not read?
Get one of these;
http://www.basspro.com/Personal-Security-Products-Hike-n-Strike-950000-Volt-Stun-Gun-Hiking-Stick/product/1502161633/
as well as a tactical flashlight
keep the chain on the door and open it ajar enough to poke one of them while blinding them
that or make some sulfuric acid in a vat and open the door wide then throw it on them
should work
>>701493686
>he doesn't get "bringing a knife to a gunfight"
>being this fucking stupid
I couldn't imagine having my head that far up my ass anon. I'm sorry anon, I really am.
Only gonna be on here for another 5: have to get up at 11
2 shots people
>>701491869
>>701504495
>stupid
>if niggers are trying to kill you, be calm and believe in the response time of a bunch of fat men in blue suits
and you're calling us tards
have fun with ISIS when they start to radicalize in bigger waves
>be OP
>buy a gun because faggots on /b/ told me to
>pull gun on niggas
>they bum rush me, slam my shit on the floor, and wrestle the gun away from me
>keep me prisoner in my own home and have me suck their cocks 24 hours a day
>non-stop black dicks pounding my throat and little white pink boyhole
>this could have been avoided if I didn't listen to /b/
Yeah OP, go right ahead and buy a gun idiot. You'll be starring in "Po' Lil White Boy #2,3,4,5, and 6 by the time those niggas are done with you.
>>701494033
>Average response time is 5 minutes
>That's if you live in a "Average" neighborhood
A lot can happen in 5 minutes.
>>701504644
You keep trying to push the idea that that magical 2nd bullet does the deed.
The bad guy died from the first bullet dumbass, he just happened to die 4 minutes after that first bullet entered his chest, that second bullet to his chest didn't mean anything. That second bullet could of been a flesh wound.
The first bullet is what killed him, and that first bullet took 4 minutes to kill him.
>>701491869
Faggot OP how many times are you going to make this shit thread? Buy your damn gun and go shoot at all the niggers you see on the street. Start the new race war faggot. Fucking americucks
>>701504957
That second bullet made him lose consciousness.
He stopped fighting back.
His death was from the first; yes. 100%
The second made him stop fighting, due to lose of consciousness.
By the time anyone walked over to check on him; he was dead.
He stopped firing immediately after the second shot to the chest.
Guess when the fight ended.
>>701504828
I sorta have to agree with this faggot.
After someone buys a gun they get really brave, and instead of being safe and running away they confront a burglar or carjacker, and that's when things go wrong. If you get a gun, its the last resort, if you cant retreat you use it.
>>701493686
What no katana?
>>701494033
>>701491869
How can owning a gun be a necessity and hand to hand fighting skills not ?
How many gun owners also bothered to train themselves in unarmed combat ?
Gun owners are in short, lazy cowards.
>>701494323
Agree with this anon re the Remington 870. You can get one brand factory new for under $400, and it's reliable as hell. Plus the sound of the pump action is one of the most distinctive and pants shittingly scary sounds on the planet to a house robbing nigger. You may not even have to pull the trigger.
>>701496307
>>701494684
>works
>buys home
>buys everything in it
>liberal says he deserves to be robbed based on looks alone
>but not with rape
You guys have seriously got to pick a MO and stick with it. I don't know about you but yalls streak of being offended by shit is dying. Nobody cares anymore if you get upset by being called a faggot.
>>701505217
>all of that and he didn't even take her to pound town
He should've slammed it right in her shitter.
>>701504957
Unless you are saying that he would have lost consciousness at the exact moment he did, regardless of the bullet that entered his chest and hit his spinally cord, I have no Idea how you can say that the first ended the fight; seeing as it raged on for 4 minutes after the initial shot, and ended immediately after the second chest shot.
>>701505138
Nope, read up on that shoot out. Not just the wiki article.
First bullet---------- he kept fighting for 4 minutes
Second bullet did nothing-------
Corner confirmed that the first bullet is what caused his death
Sorry bro, that second bullet did nothing, and you cant spin it otherwise.
You'd have a better chance in saying......."I shot the guy in the chest, and he kept coming at me, even though it fucked up his heart and lung... so I slapped him 3 minutes later and he dropped to the floor.... it must of been my slap that killed him.... not the massive blood loss and organ damage of the the bullet 3 minutes earlier"
>>701496498
Dont people remember what happens if you negotiate with terrorists
>>701505410
At no Point Have I said that the second kills; I have said that it end the fight (or removed the person from the fight)
Unless you are saying that he would have lost consciousness at the exact moment he did, regardless of the bullet that entered his chest and hit his spinally cord, I have no Idea how you can say that the first ended the fight; seeing as it raged on for 4 minutes after the initial shot, and ended immediately after the second chest shot.
>>701495201
>this is the irony of the BLM "movement"
I'm not saying racism is new, I'm saying nobody wants to even be around niggers now. Literally everyone. You niggers hold up traffic to people trying to get to work and mind their own fucking business. See where it got you?
>>701505217
Why the fuck does she keep getting up? That poor nigger was forced to defend his wealth redistribution all because this bitch was a racist!
Mossberg 550
>>701505402
sometimes when you get shot you don't immediately drop like in Die Hard, you keep moving. (plus it wasn't the spinal cord that got hit in this incident)
The second shot was not the cause of his death.
>>701495582
Me and my gang will be sure to come wake you up in the middle of the night and expect you to open the door with open arms while the BLM is literally attacking people at random for a "cause"
>>701495201
>There wasn't a car in your drive because they broke down around the corner and were coming to you
Exactly why they ran away when OP turned the porch light on.
>"oh shit, nigga! he don't know we scared of lightbulbs n shit!"
>>701493333
This. They don't rob neighbors and they hate niggers.
>>701505696
Correct;
It, however, made him stop fighting back.
Or did he continue after that second chest shot that hit his spine.
Only one of the above can be true.
>>701494323
This man has the right idea, shotgun is a great choice for anything close quarters. You also don't have to be a crackshot to do well in such a situation.
>>701494339
What a faggot.
>>701504798
>have fun with ISIS
Have fun with your propaganda and fear-mongering.
Over 6,000,000 people die EVERY YEAR from TOBACCO PRODUCTS.
Literally less than 2,000 people have been killed by ISIS on a global scale.
Wake up you fucking redneck.
>>701505696
And how the fuck would you know ?
ITT AmeriFags pretending they know advanced level biology and physics because they have fired a gun.
No. That's just a normal response to a report of black males in the middle of the night.
They came within five minutes. They're gonna protect you.
I support gun rights. Get one if you really want one. I know that you will keep it somewhere and only use it when necessary. You're probably not big into gun culture. That's OK. Plenty of people do that. If you want, get a gun and keep it in a safe or something for emergencies. It'll always be there even if you spend your entire life never having to use it. It doesn't cost that much.
However you probably don't need it if that's how quick your police response time is.
>>701505847
where is this "hit his spine" coming from?
can you link me to that article?
Ill make it as basic as I can
First shot enters chest and damages organs causing blood loss into cavity. It takes time for death with that kind of hit.
4 minutes pass
second shot hits him in chest at that moment the first shot has had time to do enough damage that he drops and the fight ends.
The second shot didn't stop the fight, the first shot did, it just took time........ it took 4 minutes and the death of 2 FBI agents.
>>701495201
Haha found the nigger.
>>701495243
Pic related
>>701505696
So imagine this:
Fight starts;
You get shot in the chest,
for four minutes you shoot people
you are shooting and attempting to start a car when a second shot hits you
you lose consciousness
you die a minute later
The coroner says the first shot killed you (you couldn't survive it)
Would you say that you stopped fighting after the first shot?
Would you say that the fight was over after the first shot?
I would say the fight was partially determined after the first shot.
>>701506204
The bullet penetrated Platt's chest and bruised the spinal cord, ending the gunfight.[24]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_FBI_Miami_shootout
http://www.webcitation.org/5gcuh7u15
>>701506204
Fucking retards.
What is more effective at stopping a 200lb animal coming towards you, an 8g bullet or your 180lb body? learn self defence you fucking coward.
>>701506318
You keep proving my point
and thanks for the link, I must of passed up the spinal thing.
But sorry, the second shot thing will never work with me or anyone. You keep proving yourself wrong when you try and defend it.
>>701504655
lol you cant just throw acid on someone on your front steps
>>701506627
I don't understand your reasoning
A fight ends when one party can no longer fight back (or is no longer willing)
Do we agree on this?
>>701496354
Proof?
>>701498240
Found the cuck.
OP do you have a basement? i have some great ideas for good webms
>>701506748
lets agree on this...........
If I shoot Mr Bad Guy in the same area of the chest that this Platt dude got shot with one bullet and he keeps coming at me........
and THEN I shoot him again and it happens to be a similar shot, it hits his center of mass and does the same thing as the first bullet, so he again keeps fighting me......
Does that disprove your theory that 2 bullets in center mass stops the fight?
>>701507094
That would be an actual counter-example (assuming no drugs or medical attention, or body armor), Yes.
Whys is it that the white people who hate niggers most ALWAYS the ones that mentally or physically weaker than most niggers ?
If you hate niggers then it's because you know you are weaker than them. The best thing that white supremacists could do would be to kill all nigger haters and then the white race would be stronger.
>>701507183
>>701507094
Small addendum; The first shot with Platt is a bad example; it went through his right arm first
I would prefer an example with a front or back oriented shot. But I would accept Platts shot for one of them.
>>701491869
How did you call 9/11? Some sort of time warp phone. Did you try to warn anyone?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFIG72iLRIc
>>701507183
Im just making up an example, not to fuck with you just to prove a point.
Im trying to prove the 2 shots to center mass DO NOT STOP someone from continuing the fight.
You say no matter what 2 shots to center mass stops the fight immediately and the bad guy cannot harm me.
I shoot bad guy in the chest and it fucks up his lung, but hes not down and still coming......
I shoot bad guy a second time in the chest and it nicks his heart, and hes still coming and he shivs me with a big ass knife and contines to stab me for 3 or 4 minutes till he bleeds out.
2 shots to center mass did not end the fight and did not help me in one bit.... Im dead with a knife in my belly,.
>>701507371
>>701506131
Bringing up death related to tobacco products? vs. Armed subhumans with the intent to hurt/kill someone?
I'd rather be a fucking redneck by your logic. Your argument became invalid the second you supported Hillary. Go pet your 'gender fluid' children before they make more social media accounts.
>>701507397
Right, but Hypotheticals don't mean anything.
I could just as easily say that no amount of shots kills people. It wouldn't be true, but I could say it.
What you say, is not known to be true; you would need to cite an example of someone doing so to break my belief (created from being a Paramedic, and from training as a doctor)
>>701507579
I cant cite a real life scenario, and in the same way you cant prove that each and every time you shoot someone in the center mass/ chest 2 times it ends the fight.
Its a coin toss. Just admit it.
you should just buy a musket
I bought one last year, the Besta purchase I ever made
if you have money left over, you can always buy a bayonet
good for home defense,
>>701504768
>Underrated post
Fuck the cuck anons that say you don't need a gun.
Fuck the cuck politicians that say you don't need a gun.
Fuck the cuck foreigners that say you don't need a gun.
>>701507680
No but I am seeking counter examples.
That is science: make a theory, test it (by seeking counter-examples), throw it out if they counter it, keep it if after suffiecent searching it does not.
Current;y we have 3 shootings, all of which have 2 center of mass shots as the end point for the person in the fight.
I would cite other shootings but I have been spending all my time just showing that those three do stick to that rule (even though people have disagreed, somehow) and it is now 430 where I am
Can you cite any cirumstance where a person continues fighting after 2 shots?
I have defened against what has been cited, I cannot ethically create counter examples (I can't go out and shoot people three times and see if they get up) and all other evidence has shown to fall in with the theory, and I can't think of a way to counter the assertion that they can survive (aside from shooting everyone) so I am left with asking for proof of people fighting after the 2nd shot
which has not been supplied.
the nignogs were playing Pokémon Go and there was a rare Koolaidkachu in your living room.
What a fucking cunt you were not letting them catch em all.
>>701506131
>>701508222
Didn't you have a job you needed to get ready for? lol
Im not even trying to troll you that hard.
I just wanted you to admit that your set in stone, blanket statement was false.
"2 shots to the chest ends the fight"
(not really)
>>701504828
Found a nigger
>>701508392
But it hasn't been proven false. Thus far all evidence points to true.
>>701505219
>>701508456
says who? you?
Its common sense. Ill post it again
"2 shots to the chest ends the fight"
(not really)
>>701508566
Bayes Theorem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayes'_theorem
Currently evidence points to true.
If a /b/tard traveling on a train at 60 MPH leaves Philadelphia, does anyone care if he is unable to refute the assertions of another /b/tard?
>>701508657
>Good luck trying to move, much less run or attack during the average 1 minute of you have.
Theres your statement that started all this.
Did Platt have enough time of consciousness to do harm?
>>701508853
and please don't back track on this.
You made that statement, and when it was proven false you then started with the "2 shots to the chest stops the fight"
and now your just running circles around yourself
>>701508853
Yes: until the second bullet
Actually
>>701497620
was the first
>>701498936
was the third
>>701503249
Finally someome not retarded
>>701505357
Well that fucking worked, kek. It's hilarious seeing some brave, oppressed dindus get run off once they're introduced to the chance of death.
>>701503496
Thats how they make sure no one is home retard
>>701509097
as
>>701509148
My First post was on 2
My second was on the physical reasons for 2
1 usually does enough
#2 worsens symptoms immensely and adds new ones which remove you from the fight.
>>701509148
I cant convince you that 2 or 3 or 15 shots to the chest don't always kill a man immediately, or sometimes at all.
You'll just have to concede that 2 shots to center mass don't always end the fight.
Sorry
When someone knock on my door, I open the door and I speak with the visitors.
Guess what ? I've never been hurt or robbed.
But there is a huge difference in my situation: I live in a civilized country.
>>701509442
I will not concede.
Whether that changes your mind or not does not change the evidence.
I don't want a gun in my living space because I don't like even the slight chance that I could potentially kill my neighbors on accident. My plan is to beat the intruder with a maglite that I keep by my bed. Not that I'm against guns at all.
Are there safe, home defense rounds that won't penetrate shit-ass apartment walls? All I have is shit to hit people with. The maglite is short, can be shined in eyes, and would knock a bitch out. But I don't like the idea of having to close with an intruder to defend myself.
>>701509362
This is stupid shut the fuck up people survive and keep fighting long after they are dead. Go to a fucking rekt thread u dipshit
>>701491869
FUCKING SHIT /b/ this just happened
>went on /b/
>top of the page is the same thread I saw last week
>and the week before that
>and the week before that
>and the week before that
>and the week before that
Does this mean I should purchase a weapon to blow my fucking brains out?
If so, what type? always wondered about getting a bj from OP first but he's too busy posting the same ragebaiting threads for gunnuts, racists, anti-gun cunts, liberal cum stains and other degenerates to get down on his knees and give me one of those really sloppy blowjobs he's famous for so rather than sticking my cock down his throat, maybe i should do the same but with a shotgun
Budget : copy pasta is the cheapest paste, after penne
>OP is not even living in america
>>701509513
Sorry, youre an idiot. I bet u think when bullet two hits they fall down like the movies.
>>701509513
I already figured you out, you said its 4am where you're at, you have to get ready for work soon... and your fighting with me to try and prove me wrong.
There is not way I can show you that you're wrong, you would never admit it.
I just hope that those two shots you send towards your assailant hit his leg bones, because he most likely will continue running at you.
"2 shots to the chest ends the fight"
(not really)
>>701509595
I have, I am also a Paramedic.
As stated above, they don't.
Asserting otherwise means nothing, without also showing so.
So I ask again; I have not found evidence against the theory: do you have any to offer?
>>701506131
Isis have killed a fuckload more than 2000
it's like you don't even care about the Syrian civil war at all
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War
>>701509507
Probably a small country. People don't seem to understand how fucking massive and varied the US is. Some areas are as nice as anywhere in Europe, some are like fucking warzones. Most people live somewhere in between where socioeconomic classes interact. Poor minorities often go into nicer areas to steal shit or worse.
The larger a place is, the more difficult it is to keep it homogeneous. I don't know why Eurocucks think that the USA should or could be just like them. It's too goddamned big.
>>701509734
Can you prove any of your assertions?
>>701509563
Yeah an ar15. Otherwise use a small cilibre handgun with hollowpoints. If you truely want to compromise lethality frangible range ammo
>>701509757
Oh u show up after the gun fight?
Well lordy lordy tell me more
They say twice center of mass as you are engaging multiple attackers. No amount of chest shots incapacitates someone unless they bleed out, u hit the spine, or they are psychologically weak. Try telling ur theories to the boys in blue next time u scrape up a shot nigger
>>701509833
prove my assertions about the 2 shots to the chest thing? or that you hate being proven wrong and will cry like a baby about it until they say you aren't wrong and will stay up till you have to go to work to try and make a point?
>>701510072
>>701510024
Any evidence at all guys?
>>701494951
Pro tip:
Glock 19 Gen4
thank me latter
>>701510072
Dude the guys a tard. Let him believe in hollywood theories.
>>701510177
Im not the one proposing a preposterious theory. You are. Read up on the cns system or subscribe to the nra cuck and read ayoobs column
>>701510177
Trying to prove to you that your wrong is like.....
You screaming at us that all eggs are white, because all eggs you've ever seen are white..."look at the eggs in all the grocery stores, Ill take you to every store and lets look at the eggs.... ALL WHITE!"
Yeah bro, but eggs can and sometimes are brown or pale yellow or even green.
But you'll scream that they ALL are white because that's all you've seen.
You cannot even fathom that you could be wrong... and you will fucking stay up till 6 am and miss work if you have to ... to prove us wrong.
>>701495244
Better to be judged by twelve
than carried by six
>>701510447
>implying all eggs arent white
>>701510656
LOL!!!!!!!!!
you mother fucker!
don't make me google "brown egg" and pic relate this shit
>>701510656
Ain't eating no nigger eggs fuck no
>>701510447
Still not seeing any evidence: all it would take is a single shred of evidence.
Show me the brown egg in my theory and you win.
Also, just to let you all know, the guy that started this; I am just posing as him, I am unsure if he has he posted anything after 4 was real. I am on the east cost. its 737 here.
>>701510875
oh ok cool, well at least I don't feel bad that Im keeping you up.
There no amount of proof I could show you, because you would either discount it or spin it to fit your narrative.
I cant prove you wrong, because you would never admit to being wrong.
Thanks
>>701510724
My shit also doesnt stink ya know
Chillax some people refuse to open theor minds
>>701510993
1 bit of evidence is too hard to ask for:
We haven't actually changed any definitions yet or discounted anything.
1 example. That is it.
>>701493186
I use slugs for defence
>>701511096
Liveleak
Rekt thread
Etc.
Im on mobile bud. People dont magically fall down when a second piece if metal enters them. Thats preposterous
>>701511096
I could show you hundreds probably (but Im not wasting my time) and you would try and flip it or discount it.
You wont admit to being wrong no matter what, why try?
>>701493686
Get a robin also?
>>701511114
>defence
We both know that isnt true anon
>>701511201
you haven't shown any; I haven't had to do more than look at the above examples and just list injuries.
I have done no deflection, no attempt at misleading
I have redirected back to the same definitions
The only deflection so far has been you; you won't produce any examples.
http://foxsanantonio.com/news/local/man-shot-twice-in-chest-drives-to-restaurant-for-help
>>701511386
You really dont understand the scientific method do you? Or you are just trolling this poor guy
http://www.thetimestribune.com/news/local_news/man-shot-twice-in-the-chest-lives/article_6186ab12-7b08-5dbb-ba93-0d4dc9a8d6aa.html
>>701511548
And I am disproven:
Good night all
>>701511600
I was searching on my own ; but did not pick up the above article
: I was looking through "videos of people being shot" and similar
>>701511650
>>701511548
what searches did you all use?
>>701491869
YES OFC BUY ONE
a .22 would work.
just make sure you got ammo.
and know how your gun operates. :)
good luck buddy
>>701511746
Im the one you were arguing with and the search engine I used???.....
Google!
Try it, its a fucking wonder
>>701511746
shot twice in chest in google just gives me many autopsys
I have to put "shot twice in chest and drives" to get it to show up.
>>701511883
Man shot twice in the chest dies in hospital | Homicide Watch Trenton ...
trenton.homicidewatch.org/2016/04/09/man-shot-twice-in-the-chest-dies-in-hospital/
Apr 9, 2016 - A city man was shot in the chest Friday night and later died at the hospital, ending a two-month period of no homicides in the capital city.
Teen shot twice in the chest - FOX10 News | WALA
www.fox10tv.com/story/31328334/teen-shot-twice-in-the-chestWALA‑TV
Mobile Police have confirmed that one person was shot on Westwood Street Friday ... victim was riding in a white Malibu when he was shot twice in the chest.
Man shot twice in chest drives to restaurant for help | KABB
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Sylville Smith shot twice, autopsy shows, in shooting that sparked ...
www.foxnews.com/.../one-person-shot-in-milwaukee-during-secon...
Fox News Channel
Aug 15, 2016 - An autopsy conducted Monday showed Sylville Smith was shot in his chest and arm, authorities said, backing up the official account of ...
UPDATE: 22-year-old man shot twice in chest, expected to survive ...
cnycentral.com/.../syracuse-police-respond-to-valley-drive-shooting-1-inj...
WSTM‑TV
May 9, 2016 - UPDATE: Syracuse Police reveal the man who they say was shot on the 600 block of Valley Drive was shot in the chest 2 times in the chest.
22-year-old shot twice in the chest in Valley Drive shooting - - LocalSYR
www.localsyr.com/news/one-man-shot-on-valley-drive
Syracuse Police responded to a shooting complaint on Valley Drive Monday night and found a 22-year-old man had been shot twice in the chest.
is what I get in google
>>701511894
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>>701511894
I had to add "And drives away" to get that response out of google.
>>701492724
*Adopt a pitbull
Too many shit cunts get pitties and dump them.
They are the most loyal dog to have and are heaps friendly to friends and family, unless you train them to be aggressive and shit.
My pup knows no anger and is the greatest dog.
>>701512087
lives had nothing to do with my critiria; so I didn't put it in search
Teen shot twice in the chest - FOX10 News | WALA
www.fox10tv.com/story/31328334/teen-shot-twice-in-the-chestWALA‑TV
Mobile Police have confirmed that one person was shot on Westwood Street Friday ... victim was riding in a white Malibu when he was shot twice in the chest. .... Files suspect Miguel Randalson lives in Grand Bay and has threatened to kill his ..
Man shot twice in the chest dies in hospital | Homicide Watch Trenton ...
trenton.homicidewatch.org/2016/04/09/man-shot-twice-in-the-chest-dies-in-hospital/
Apr 9, 2016 - A city man was shot in the chest Friday night and later died at the hospital, ... Simon was shot at least twice in the chest, according to sources who spoke .... a younger generation who could care less about their own lives so to ...
Intruder shot by off-duty St. Louis County officer after online argument ...
www.stltoday.com/...shot.../article_00c6c2bd-d559-5b78-a8f...
St. Louis Post‑Dispatch
Jul 11, 2016 - Gebhard was shot twice in the chest. He was ... Gebhard lived in the 7900 block of Navajoe Street in the Affton area. Brogan said the ...
Man Dies After Being Shot Twice in the Chest in Philadelphia | NBC ...
www.nbcphiladelphia.com/.../Fatal-Shooting-Philadelphia-Gunman-Chest--33...
WCAU
Oct 17, 2015 - A man was shot and killed in Philadelphia Saturday night.
Man shot twice in the chest, lives | Local News | thetimestribune.com
www.thetimestribune.com/...shot-twice...chest-lives/article_6186a...
The Times‑Tribune
Jun 23, 2008 - Lee Wynn, also known as “Junior,” was shot twice in the chest with what police say appears to be a semi-automatic pistol after an unknown ...
Man found shot twice in the chest in South Philadelphia | 6abc.com
6abc.com/news/man-found-shot-twice-in-the-chest-in-south-phila/529915/
Feb 22, 2015 - A man was shot multiple times don't get it with "shot twice in chest and lives"
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>>701512114
>>701492724
FUCK pitbulls, they are the niggers of the dog world.
a doberman would do. Crop its ears and cut the tail.
BOOM scary fucking dog to protect you
and when you shoot that fucker 2 times in the chest you better hope that fucker doesn't have a little bible in his pocket.
http://newsone.com/2915446/police-bible-saves-bus-driver-shot-twice-in-chest/
>>701512263
That would be body armor: technically.
>>701512321
body armor FROM THE ALMIGHTY GOD JEHOVAH!!!
>>701511883
Welcome to Filter Bubbles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_bubble
It showed up for you and not me.
>>701512414
Quite
>>701512261
>fuck pitbulls
They are pound for pound the best fighting dog.
Small, solid dog that will break your bones or a lanky, vulnerable dog, you choose.
>>701512114
>I got one and mine hasn't mauled anybody yet so everyone should have one
Or anon could not be a retard and just get any of a hundred other kinds of dogs that aren't vicious and have other attributes besides being potentially dangerous.
Shotgun.
Moss 500. 00 buck. Pic related.
>>701512261
Spoken like a kid who's never had a dog before.
>>701512261
you must be american right??
>>701512261
underage b& detected
>>701512261
>BOOM
This isn't a Scooby Doo special
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/man-shot-twice-in-chest-dies-immediately-last-words-are-that-cunt-on-4chan-was-right-article-1.2706519
>>701512525
You know nothing about them do you?
They have a bad record because of the sheer number of people who have these dogs and mistreat them/train them to be aggressive and then a lot of them end up abandoned or in shelters because of this.
They are naturally a really great friendly, non-aggressive dog.
It's all about how they are raised/trained.
>>701512845
it was a joke, don't ruin it by dissecting it
>>701513069
Okay.
>>701499467
We were told of a situation in GA at the academy where they mag dumped 30rds of 9mm into a guy with an mp5 and it still took the whole thing to take him down. That and some other similar cases of 9mm not getting the job done is why a lot of agencies in GA switched to .40
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>>701512485
When you fall for bait that strong.
>>701513260
>people think I'm a retard
>pretend I was baiting them
>>701513260
Good try kiddo
>>701513260
I think you took the bait on this one!
