3 days you fucking dolt Erowid DOT org Stop asking inane questions like this on /b/ It actually sounds like you're fucking 12 and should wait a few years before experimenting with powerful psychoactive drugs that you obviously show no respect. I bet you trip because you think it will make you "high" don't you?
>>701404337 One time a group of us in college were watching golf on subtitles and the wind kept cutting in. It kept showing "kkkkk...kk.!!!! Kkkk!!! K". Then this guy got it in the hole and a "!" Appeared right above his head.
>>701404062 Not OP here. I've done acid and smoked a bowl of hash while peaking. It made me realize that the high you get from other drugs will never compare to an acid high. It broke the comprehensive scale of being high for me. Then i started freaking out because these two guys next to me looked like a reptile and a dried up carcass. Acid is ridiculously intense if you get the real deal.
The Beatles, The Brian Jonestown Massacre, Pink Floyd, put on Royksopp with a visualised youtube vid and it was fucking awsome. Nothing like I expected, brilliant drug would suggest. There was lots of funny shit, "at the time" sort of things, I couldn't stop laughing at the movie Flight, what the fuck is denzel doing watched TV the whole time whether it was some battlefield, youtube vids of music or some movies personal issues arent a problem when I trip, I just kind of feel content and happy in myself, it's amazing.
>>701404015 I honestly couldn't pick specifics that make sense at all, sorry dude, its some fucked up drugs.
Was smoking weed the whole time so there was a lot of thinking though, just a lot forgot
>>701405596 Oh you do? Yeah, of course you do, you're tough, no one can trouble you, you're a cool guy and isn't afraid of anything. Conceited? Perhaps. Arrogant? Undoubtably but you're a really tough guy though, so not a problem for you.
Go for it, try and have a bad trip. Gravitate right towards the horrible things, you're a tough guy no problem.
>>701405596 Diphenhydramine is a deliriant which can help you achieve this. I tried 600mg once, but I didn't experience any delirium. I didn't close the blinds as well, but the straight up hallucinations were an interesting novelty to the drug. If you combine it with LSD, I can imagine someone having a good time. Visuals + full blown hallucinations.
>>701405086 Yeah but if you smoke weed the day after tripping the high is so intense for some reason. I don't know if it was really good weed or what but I was so high I was practically hallucinating, and because the body high was so strong I felt so dumb stupid retarded that I couldn't even fucking walk ಠ_ಠ. I think its because the weed triggered some of the same receptors that the acid does since I was still feeling the weird after effects of tripping
>>701405086 While I realize that everyone uses psychoactive substances for different reasons; getting high should never be even a thought crossing your mind in your reasoning for taking an LSD trip. A trip is a journey that you undertake for the purpose of acquiring higher knowledge not only about yourself introspectively but about the world around you and all those that inhabit it. I'm not saying that every time you trip you need to have deep existential questions to explore but if you're asking how long it takes to reset your tolerance you are abusing one of Mankind's most beautiful creations, you are a fool and I pity you.
>>701405596 i never deliberately went on a bad trip but i had one go bad on me and allowed it to happen. basically i dropped forgetting that was the day i had told my gf at the time we were gonna do something special, she called me about it, i told her i had dropped and she just got disappointed with me, not even mad just disappointing, and her disappointment turned my trip bad, where i just got really really bad shakes/chills, felt almost like a bad fever, with waves of unpleasantness washing over me every 5 seconds or so (similar to waves of euphoria with opiods but of badness instead of happiness). overall it was a good experience, made me realize i was being way too selfish with my drug use.
>>701403983 This, seriously how much are you doing that you've developed a tolerance for it? Even in my hayday I can't say I ever did, and I was doing it once a week.
I've had some liquid I put some on sour patch kids sitting in my freezer for 9 months. Never felt a good time was around to use it. Regardless of if you do it spiritually or recreationally it should be respected, but that really applies to all drugs.
>>701406082 I didn't take acid for that reason. It was just one of those things you stumble upon while being in a state of pure vulnerability. I've discovered and learned so much and I'm grateful for that expirience. Ever since I've never abused psychedelics. Also, i had a vision of a dried desert area, with black dried up trees, and i kept hearing the sound you would hear from Pink Floyds "Echoes" in my head. Loudly... The first time i ever heard that song was two weeks after the trip.
>>701405338 I kept increasing the dose, by the end it was about 10 hits. The trips wouldn't be as intense visually but my state of mind was considerably warped. I also took 900mg dxm twice which was incredibly intense, was caught in a loop where my only experience of reality where the "trippiness" would build up to the point of complete sensory overload until I "died". Afterwards relief and euphoria would come and I would be "born" and feel myself crying, salivating, sweating, shivering, etc. The acid trips would last much longer towards the end of the week. A week after complete sobriety I would still see faint CEVs. I don't recommend anyone do this, and for all anyone knows this could be a fictional account.
>>701407019 Tried it for a little but when it was avalible in college (for about a month).
It was interesting, but after a while I found it more as a placebo than anything, and stopped microdosing. In the end it's all in your head and just slightly changes your outlook. Once you adapt it, then the doses are not needed anymore.
>>701403512 You don't do acid every fucking day lol. This really isn't a problem responsible trippers have at all. tolerance builds up fast with lysergimides. Play the game of life for alittle, so you know what it's like to have it ripped away from you on LSD.
I did it Afew times when I was younger. I spent hours writing paragraphs and paragraphs of realizations about science, social habits, brain function, alittle of everything that actually fucking matters to an entity brought into existence without it's own volition.
>>701407312 This warms my heart anon, thank you for your story. I hope that you may retain that knowledge for many years to come and it grows within you to eventually renew your curiosity and send you out with more questions. That is the beautiful thing about the quest for knowledge, it never ends.
Can someone explain to me why psychedelic drugs are so popular? I've only tried mushrooms once and some mdma that I later found out had a small amount of heroin in it. Neither one was that great to me. The shrooms just make me feel kinda dumb and freak out a little bit. The mdma w/ H was more enjoyable, I assume because of the heroin but it just made me sit up all night kinda happy feeling and wanting to get more but I couldn't so I just sat in the car with 2 friends who also did it and smoked weed all night til morning time.
I guess I need to try acid but so far i haven't been impressed. I much prefer benzo's and opiates to psychedelic drugs. Gabaergic drugs being my favorite.
>>701408147 They help you look at the world differently and introspect in ways you've possibly never thought before. While each trip is different, I find myself thinking about things with a much more open mind while on it, and realizing how little I, or really humans in general, really know.
>>701408147 I think you had crap or low dosage of both drugs.
Shrooms gave me intense melting visuals, color changing, very earth feeling, deep thoughts LSD very strong geometric visuals, patterns, changing colors & brightness, deep thoughts, extreme connectedness with music... MDMA only done it twice so far, but it's my favorite, did both times with my best bros, and we had the time of our lives; felt super connected, waves of ultimate euphoria, just being alive and touching things & hugging each other was the most awesome thing ever.
>>701408028 Yeah fuck that. I can not fucking stand people who try to put it in a mental box with a label. it's the very thing that shows you that you don't have to see ideas like that. it's an insanely powerful tool for the mind. people who abuse it for cheap fun like you would with weed, just don't understand the shear amount of possibility LSD offers.
>>701408147 Acid helps in realizing that the thing that is commonly called "you" isn't real. other drugs are for experience, and to feel good in the moment. LSD is an experience that can shake your ideas of life and self. you remember it.
>>701408645 Are you implying LSD doesn't affect serotonin levels? MDMA is more direct, but you should realize the shear complexity of everything we deal with in life. LSD is also a complex molecule that interacts with levels of serotonin in the brain. Seratonin interwction is just not the kicker in the drug experience like with MDMA though. LSD is that, and more.
>>701409224 MDMA depletes it, that's why SOME people take supplements. LSD does not deplete serotonin in your brains, so that's why literally no one takes supplements for LSD. Only autistic kids who think they're helping themselves for the better.
>>701408941 This is something that religious meditators particularly of the vedic style (but generally excluding the currupt jew Abrahamic religions, they're more about fighting each other than s'ing the FU and meditating) acheive every day, without the drugs. In fact some serious hindu meditators can do these drugs and be unaffected.
They know, and probably learned in a better environment than a peer pressured white kid at a party suddenly getting thrust into the light of the divinity, that life is an illusion, an amnesic illusion and it is so for a purpose. This age is the dark age, humanity reflects this very reliably. Lies are believed more than truth, evil seems to be very successful, mammon/money is king etc etc. That's this life at this time on this earth; driven by prima fascias and first impressions. Very few of us understanding who we are and where we came from and even less of us with the confidence to talk about it in public.
>>701408593 >>701408646 I'm so tired of this shit though, everyone who does this shit says the same things. I don't know about the mushrooms, can't speak on their quality. But the mdma was ordered on dwm and was supposedly good, with fucking heroin in it. Maybe it was shit but that's what all you people say if someone doesn't like your DOT.
How do you know my timing, placement, people, product, were all horrible, and how do you know i forced it? and if i can't use a drug recreationally i don't want to use it. I'm not trying to "open my 3rd eye" or some gay shit. I want to get high when I do drugs and feel good, thats it.
>>701410160 This is exactly what I'm talking about. You people get so uppity and think your high and mighty when people don't like your DOT. >Sounds like you would enjoy Cocaine more then LSD kid Kid lol. I've done a lot of cocaine. It's not my favorite drug but it's not bad.
If these drugs make you so insightful and shit why are the people who do them such fucking assholes like you?
>>701409667 You're right, I don't know your exact situation. But you asked a question, and I answered it as best as I could with the given info. Maybe you need more mdma than the average? A friend of mine is the same, half a Tomorrowland pill had me and my bros rolling like mad except for him, so next time he took 3/4 and had the time of his life. Or like you say, it's just not your thing. Though that is very rare for proper mdma.
>>701410267 In the end, we all fear death. You may think its simple, a sleep; but once you find yourself facing that infinity, not to many jump willing. When in a very heavy trip, you get pushed into that void, never knowing if you will return, or where your body is while your mind drifts into nothing.
>>701409667 >I want to get high when I do drugs and feel good, thats it. What other anons have said is immaterial because it is plain to see that you are either too young or too foolish to show the prescribed reverence. You must be open to wisdom in order for it to enter you...Jesus anon...I've stepped in puddles deeper than you.
>>701410550 What I tried was tan-orangeish crystals in a capsule. I know it had heroin because it was tested and the guy who ordered it later confessed someone he knew some added the heroin to the mixture after the shipment was recieved so maybe the H took away from the mdma? But I'm not going to say it was some fucking 99% mdma cause i have no idea it could have been shit but even if it was i would expect my first first with it would be a little better.
It felt good and kind of speedy for a little bit with a big crash after wards that wasn't bad, but just kind of happy, viby feelings. I didn't "trip" out or anything at all.
>>701411244 Yeah, mdma isn't trippy unless you add other stuff in the mix. But it should be more then 'some happy feelings'. My friends told me my eyes kept rolling in the back of my head the first time we rolled, and the second time we had slightly stronger pills, and during peak all I could do was lay on the mattress, hug my friends and writhe around in pleasure.
>>701403512 I read that tolerance to LSD completely diminishes after as little as a week but I'm not sure that's accurate. I don't think you need to be doing it on a regular basis though, you're abusing it and taking it for the wrong reasons by the sounds of it. LSD is a serious drug with potentially serious effects on your mental health. You should be experiencing it on an infrequent basis and as a learning experience, not a recreational habit.
>>701411177 Again with the high and mighty stance. No I didn't test my shit at the time but it was tested later on. And I don't give a fuck honestly. I am inexperienced with psychedelic drugs that's why I'm fucking asking about it, not to try and be belittled by you people who think that shit makes you better than anyone else. I probably know more than you about a lot of other drugs, but I don't brag about it and act like I'm better than you because it's cool or something. It's fucking drugs.
>>701411881 ~7 days you can have a more or less decent trip again, but for most it takes longer to incorporate what they learned during the trip into their lives. Though when you're just getting into it, it's very tempting to do it as often as possible, which is what I did, until I got my ass kicked a few times. Terrible trips, but always had my bros with me, so I came out a lot stronger, I am pretty sure I might even have been depressed for a long time without realizing it. Feels like I am only just now starting to really live & love life, I'm 31.
>>701411963 Yeah and people who believe in that shit are usually just fucking weirdos who like to get blown. What else is new? You can justify it all you want with ritualistic purposes but it's still a drug someone makes for you to get off on.
You asked why psychedelic drugs didn't effect you like they do others, and we told you why. The primary reason people don't enjoy tripping is because they do it horribly wrong, and your reaction to having that pointed out shows how bad your mindset is.
>>701411838 I don't know why people act like that. I guess it's just the cool hip little thing right now to be into some niche drugs and act like they're enlightening you or some shit. It's a load of shit.
>>701412504 I actually asked why they're so popular. Then you hipsters began to belittle me on my lack of knowledge of these niche substances, like i just walked into a gamestop/starbucks combination. You must not be so enlightened and open if your such a fucking prick about the drugs you think are so enlightening.
>>701412648 Godspeed. Test your mdma, testkits are cheap. Try to get euro pressies with good reports from the darkweb. I had red army skulls and purple tomorrowlands. For lsd, start low. ~100mcg. Don't smoke weed until you're almost to baseline, it's very likely to trigger extreme paranoia and anxiety. Set and setting are extremely important. Do it somewhere safe, comfortable, where you won't be disturbed or have to worry about people walking in on you; have someone you trust with you or at least available to call in case you feel down. Have some stuff at the ready to do, but go with the flow. Music is God.
>>701411624 >>701411963 Just because you don't have the mental/emotional capacity to comprehend psychedelic drugs or the wisdom to learn from those experiences doesn't mean that you should look down upon others who have. You are obviously have no real argument and are just butt hurt because you didn't have the experience you were expecting. if you were anywhere near the intelligence of a chimp you would realize that the fact that LSD is a chemical is irrelevant. I never said it was some sacred magical holy medicine, but psychedelic drugs are the closest I've ever come to religion.
>>701413285 I'm not angry, nor is it peoples experiences that I'm talking about, it's how people act about said experiences, and how people act towards others who haven't experienced said experiences. Their uppity, snobby, and basically just assholes about it 90% of the time and you can't even have a civil discussion with them about the topic with them reverting immediately to "oh your just a simpleton who doesn't understand. And your shit was bunk bro I know for a fact. You just don't have the mind capacity to understand such complex feelings ect ect"
>>701409667 > I want to get high when I do drugs and feel good, thats it.
Then leave LSD alone. That's not what it's for, that's not what it does. There are far cheaper, safer, easier to attain drugs that will give you what you want. Don't underestimate the potential LSD has to permanently and profoundly change you and the way you view the world and everything in it.
>>701413861 I don't know about the snobby thing, why don't you just think that they're making it all up and continue with your own things then m8? Don't compare yourself with anyone else, niggas is all on their own life path doing shit in different orders
>>701413665 Shove it up your ass you fucking hipster. You think your better than me because you trip a lot is literally what you just said.
>Just because you don't have the mental/emotional capacity to comprehend psychedelic drugs Someone who has such a great mental and emotion capacity like yourself shouldn't be such a fucking stuck up prick should they? Oh wait it's because your fucking full of yourself kys you high and mighty faggot.
>>701414093 I think I've done it enough to become more of a hippy. Harm reduction is where it's had, love & peace etc. 4chan is a toxic place, but threads like these where I can be of some use keep me coming back
>>701414495 You can buy the ingredients off the clearnet... like right now. Then you literally follow a fucking extraction guide off of erowid or some other shit and wah lah, DMT. It's really simple after your first batch.
>>701415082 Well thank fuck someone who can see the light. It's honestly rare to find someone who trips and not a prick about it like you. I've done a lot of drugs, for many years. And never once have I seen another group of niche drug users of any kind turn into as you said such "holier than thou" faggots about it. But you're cool so I guess it doesn't do that to everyone.
>>701415109 Was a Camp Bisco regular till this year. Had some great times seeing Nectar, the Biscuits, Shpongle, I can go on and on. >Sad though, its not the same lawless anarchy that it use to be at the ILCC. Montage Mountain blows donkey dicks too.
Going to Great North in a couple weeks. Only about a half an hour drive for me. Can't wait for some Space Jesus and Bleep Bloop.
>>701414884 Sometimes the answers you get aren't the ones you want, but nobody has been saying stuff for the sake of just belittling you or being snobby. The advice offered around the use of LSD has all been sound, safe advice. Sorry it wasn't the "oh just take as much as you want, whenever you want" answer that you were seeking to affirm the stance you clearly already hold on LSD just being a bit of harmless fun.
>>701405596 Bad trips aren't always seeing shit. Worst trip I ever had was just terrifying extreme paranoia where I thought I was in hell and everyone and thing was watching me. Nothing looked different tho.
>>701415525 I have done fentanyl, a lot. Fentanyl kicks ass. I just wanted to inquire some information about these psychedelic substances but a bunch of faggots got all up in arms over it and started jerking off as they told me how big of a noob and how stupid i am because i'm inexperienced with said drugs and wanted to learn more. I have a mass of knowledge, literal years surrounding a lot of other drugs but I don't rub it in their faces like I'm better than them.
>>701414487 Seems as though we've resorted to making things up in a fit of autistic rage. I'll make this quick since mumsy's little angel obviously needs a nap. You asked why drugs of this nature were popular. You were given honest and hopefully helpful insight from more experienced users and judging by your responses it is clear to see that you lack the wisdom to fully comprehend these experiences. >if i can't use a drug recreationally i don't want to use it. I'm not trying to "open my 3rd eye" or some gay shit If you didn't want to open your third eye why were you messing around with psychedelics and furthermore why would you compare having a deep experience to being homosexual? Is that really the only way you can think of to try and make me feel insecure?
>>701415864 >>701416319 How is telling me I lack the mental and emotional capacity to understand something "safe advice"? I've only received advice from this post >>701413507 while everyone else just wanted to tell me how bad they knew my drugs were and how stupid I was. That's not advice pals.
>>701416346 Well your first mistake is coming to /b/ for drug information... not sure who would actually come to /b/ for legitimate information where there are websites that can tell you more about the drug than a drug thread. I'd start there
>>701416346 I assure you I did look through all the replies, and the one you linked was sound.
Sure, he could have sugar coated it for you, but the fact that you need a certain mindset when getting into a trip is irrefutable. I wouldn't call it "intelligence" because that implies dumb people can't trip properly, which is wrong. But everything you've said thus far only proves that you aren't capable of enjoying LSD, at least not right now.
>>701405596 I had a bad trip once. I got caught up in telepathy. since I discovered it is possible I cant stop sending. Its like OCD. it has completely fucked up my life. I don't fap anymore for this reasons. I send images and tactile hallucinations. Not everyone can see exactly what you're sending but everyone notices remnants of it consciously or unconsciously. I hate that I'm able to affect my brother parents and friends negatively but I cant stop. I'm unable to accept that this is real. Imean I have always affected my surroundings, but now that I know it, somehow its just gone to fuck shit. sorry I cant explain better I'm drunk
since it happened I am unable to be alone like before. I'm drunk now that is only reason I'm able to type this.
I can barely go to the toilet nowadays because of it. I want to die
>>701416390 >fucking scary cosmic horror Oh yeah, I've been there. Fractal visuals so intense I couldn't see anything resembling reality, and when I moved my head they would 'peel away' from the world, revealing a white nothingness behind it. >mfw I seriously wanted to kill myself just to make it stop.
>>701416814 Obviously this isn't a solid source of legit drug info. But it is a place where you can actively discuss amongst other users which isn't something you can do on many websites. Many places have old or "stock" information that the government feeds you about drugs so often times you can get a clearer truth on websites like this.
>>701417139 Meh. I can understand your mindset but I wouldn't agree personally. I like cigarettes, and for me to explain it to a non-smoker is almost impossible, or they see it was some sort of crutch or something. I still wouldn't say "cigs kick ass", but even when I quit for several months, I still would have liked to smoke.
In the end, I never really liked upers or downers. When I do drugs (again, me, not speaking for you) I only really like to psychedelicly shift, and not too much for physical feeling. >Also I have family history of opiate addictions, so theres that too.
>>701417810 who can help me? I can only help myself. already been to doctors and had to see a psychologist after I quit my job in order to get welfare. it doesn't help. they are almost as deluded as I am. humans are fucked
After talking to about 20 people who did LSD to varying degrees. Some intelligent, some less so, aside from the visual, and sometimes auditory hallucinations, they are not "better" people from the experience. They are deluded into thinking that they had a "enlightening" "mind-expanding" experience. "I understand this now." "Really? Explain it to me then." "No, you just have to experience it yourself." Sure. Some take too much, the wrong stuff, or combine with other substances they shouldn't. Then the damage is done. Some say it definitely gave them a "clarity" that benefited their lives. I like to be in control. Hallucinogenics seem to take that away. To each their own.
>>701416781 If you're taking LSD often enough that you have a tolerance, you are using it too often. That has been said a million and one times and is the BEST answer to your question you'll get. Nobody is being a snob by telling you that you're abusing these drugs. Perhaps you're being defensive because deep down you know you're being reckless.
>>701418023 Well you obviously have no idea about the type of person I am.
I literally came to this thread for advice and to try and understand these drugs more clearly and that is not what I received. I never had a preformed notion of what I wanted to hear. However, I didn't expect to be ridiculed for wanting to understand something that is supposedly enlightening and only those with great mental and emotion capacity's can fathom. But those people sure don't act that way, seems a little ironic don't ya think.
>>701418137 >I can only help myself That is true. But others can help you help yourself. I can understand being disappointed in the system if you have experiences like that. Don't you have friends or family or anyone you trust, or even someone you might not know/trust as well but who obviously cares for you?
>>701418185 Well, for me the good trips were just good fun, and the bad trips with my friends present helped me deal with a lot of shit from my past. Friends & family notice a clear & very positive difference in me in the past 2 years, and psychedelics took part in that. I still think life has no meaning at all, but I love living.
But for the most part, it's just a fun, non-addictive, relatively safe drug. You feel like having revelations, and while I realize afterwards how silly some are, the feeling they give you at the moment itself make it worth it. And here and there you have some genuine insight that you can integrate into your life to become a better person.
>>701417950 Go back to your original post...several anons tried to help and I can't be bothered to do your legwork. Our disagreement lies in the fact that I believe that LSD should be used spiritually and not recreationally. You have every right to live your life the way that you see fit but this anon>>701403983 is right: eat it with respect or be eaten.
>>701418033 That's understandable. I know exactly what your saying. Also I would never tell anyone to do fentanyl or tell them it's actually kick ass, it's a terrible succubus that is fucking horrible for you in every way, but this is /b/ so, fentanyl kicks ass.
I don't like speed, never have. I've always enjoyed downers and they'll always be my favorite most likely.
>>701418520 A tolerance which is gone after less than 1 weeks abstinence. If OP felt his tolerance was high last time he tripped then he most likely re-dosed within a week of his first trip. Ergo, Too. Often.
>>701418642 I don't understand where you're coming from anymore. You seem to believe that anyone that takes LSD thinks they're enlightened. This simply isn't the case.
Anyone that says they've been enlightened has just proved how far from enlightenment they really are. It's not a goal easily achieved, the path is never ending, but with each step you take along it brings you a great deal closer.
LSD helps people to wipe away the filters that they subconsciously put on everything, it's a different way of seeing life, not a free pass into nirvana.
>>701418985 My original post asking why people enjoyed it and looking for advice? Yeah I managed to get advice from 1 guy out of the 20 belittling me. You can't find any more because it didn't happen, legwork was a shitty cop out.
Also I never once said I planned on taking acid over and over again? Idk where you got that from. Obviously I'm not just going to wildly drop acid all day every day, but I guess that's the 2nd closest thing to advice I've received in this thread so, thanks I guess.
>>701417030 Anon. I am extremely interested in your account and if you are still here please reply.
One time, I found myself in somewhat of a similar situation, and to this day I believed I actually died. It has happened to me about 3 times already (as I'm aware of) and will happen again. I took a dose that I asked for, a single one from a shaman like space cadet at a Tipper afterparty. The following 3 days was a whirlwind (came down by Day 2) and by the end of day 3 I had crashed my car, broke my best friends hand in the accident and still not speaking, told another best friend that I loved her and didn't care if she loved me back, and kept somehow controlling the radio and what songs came on (almost like a movie soundtrack). When I hit the tree, it all stopped and I was someone different. I have been that person ever since.
>call it overanalyze, call it what you will, but too many things coincided in that span for me.to rule it out as near pomp and circumstance.
>>701420272 Probably don't, but you're going to anyway so just make sure you are in a good mindset. LSD doesn't lift your mood it only enhances what you are already feeling so if you are feeling stressed out or depressed at all, taking LSD is not gonna be a good time.
>>701420272 Yeah, either don't do it, or be prepared to meet your demons. It might just be a fun ride, but LSD can turn on a dime and push your shit in even on a low dose, if you have that kind of luggage. If you have acces to benzos, have some at hand. They are very good at more or less cancelling a bad trip. Be safe, friend.
>>701420942 Have good friend(s) with you, happy and/or nostalgic music (nostalgia is a very strong emotion on lsd), just knowing that you can cancel it anytime can be enough to calm you down. Eat healthy beforehand, have some healthy drinks and snacks at hand.
>>701420024 It was also suggested that you were using LSD for the wrong reasons and that either you should try other drugs or acquire a different perspective. Sorry all of these mean old anons triggered you, why don't you go take a break in the safe space with some milk and cookies. Also I'm on my phone and that's why I don't want to link you to every single post but here they are anyway since you are clearly incapable of reading through a thread Just a few examples: >>701408646 >>701408463 >>701408941
>>701421760 You're a grown man. If you truly did your research, you don't need someone to hold your hand for you for your drug experience. And in what world is calling for help a horrible advice?? Have you actually tried LSD or are you just spouting shit from your mouth?
>>701410937 There's no such thing as devoid of experiences. The universe is like a yes or no question, does it exist? And the answer is yes. Even if you shot yourself in the head and died the universe still exists. Experience is simply the perception of the evolving information in the universe. Dying doesn't end that evolution and doesn't end experience. The universe is bigger than you and dying simply releases you to the larger universe.
>>701422114 >someone to hold your hand I'm not that anon, but even I could say you're misunderstanding. LSD is best experienced with others, and it's always nice the first time when you begin to feel alone.
Of course, solo tripping is a must at some point, but the first time should always be with friends.
>>701421585 You are dense as a fucking brick man. 2/3 of those guys offered some kind of insight which I appreciated more than all the belittlement, but it's still not helpful advice. Then you continue to prove my point about you people being pretentious assholes with each and every post. Why are you so angry? You need to chill the fuck out man you seriously might have some sort of problem if you're this far up your own ass. Like seriously look in the mirror for a second.
>>701422114 About 50 or so times. I myself don't need a babysitter anymore, but if I was a first timer (as the anon said) its highly recommended.
Calling 9/11 while on acid just sounds insanely moronic, and I don't mix with anything heavier when tripping so physically I'm usually always safe. I have had times where I thought I was dying, but every time I am very grateful I didn't seek authority for help and worked it out on my own.
>>701422520 >ad hominem intensifies >backpedels Look man, if you want to do something, do it. You are entitled to your reasons, even if they are flawed, you will learn. I had hoped to impart some wisdom unto you and maybe get some in return. That to me is the real point of living. Be well!
>>701424060 >a bad trip warrents an ambulance ride >its not just all in your head >a cop and an EMT will tell you its all ok and give you a hug >A hospital environment is a great place to come down from a trip
>>701424831 You are literally retarded, anything you experience during a trip is a direct result of your own mind. You don't need medical attention, nothing is wrong with you, it's you trying to block out the thoughts the trip is making you experience.
>>701425099 So you are saying someone who is in an extreme paranoid state and unable to think clearly because their emotions are overpowering their reason to think is perfectly fine? Stop being a fucking moron and think about what you posted
I'd rather work it out with myself unless I was 100% positive I was in immediate danger, rather than getting the police involved, yes. Especially when dealing with a heavily enforced Class 1 Substance that you can't really OD from (and most often don't dose heavy on)
>>701425313 Yes, that's exactly what I'm telling you. The paranoid state is a result of whatever you were thinking about, probably one of the problems you're not supposed to carry into the trip. If calling 911 is how you propose dealing with it, you clearly don't understand tripping.
>>701424831 Medical professionals don't necessarily give you the mental/emotional support it takes to come off of a bad trip.
Being strapped down by a bunch of people in uniforms that could possibly be aggressive towards you, none of which understand anything about you or your mindset beyond "he's doing a fucking hippie drug, he's probably seeing leprechauns" which is FAR from the truth and even farther from what you need when you're tripping.
I would much rather have a friend put on some good tunes, hand me my cigarettes, and laugh with me about some good times we used to have.
>>701425612 Are you reading the post to its entirety? If there's no one to help you when you are in extreme paranoid state of mind, you want that person to 'just deal with it' instead of getting help? Not sure how being succumbed in paranoia for +6 hours is going to help you with anything but hey, if it magically helps you feel better than getting medical help, you go ahead and do that. As for me, my mind and sanity is more important than the mentality of not going to ER because 'it doesn't look like a good place to come down from LSD'
>>701425873 Been there. I was taken in by Hells Angels security at a music fest when I got lost in an ATV lane while tripping shrooms. Tied me down to a cot with linen bound all over my body. Thought I had died and was decomposing and the only way to cheat death was to escape the bed. >Came too, realized what was going on. >Had a pervious injury that they complicated when they retied the bindings I loosened when they weren't looking >cried liability >they took the bluff, untied me and gave me a new wristband >went back to the dance tent >realized I had pissed myself when tackled a couple hours before >danced anyways.
>>701426235 Are you even reading my posts? It's 100% a mental state, just like any other emotion. Any thing you experience during a trip can be changed in seconds by adjusting your mindset, that's how you learn to trip recreationally and eventually how to trip functionally. Calling 911 is the worst thing you could do, there's no learning, there's no growth.
>>701426235 >>701426235 Here's the thing about LSD. If you go into a trip paranoid about "handling things by yourself" and feel like you would do better in an ER, then go trip at the ER and let me know how that goes.
If you've ever had a real bad trip, you would realize that any bad:negative/paranoid thoughts that arise are just that. Thoughts. No different from noises, smells, sights, feels. It's just a function of your brain. And it's fleeting.
Thoughts don't necessarily create who you are as a person. You are a person who creates thoughts.
Although I doubt you're going to understand me. Can't say I didn't try.
>>701407967 med fag with biology specialties here the delivery method used for lsd makes no difference with its short term or long term effects doing it through the eyelids only shortens the time it take for the drug to go into your brain
just out of curiosity why on earth do you people think acid is as safe as marihuana? seriously I want to know are you simple people that just believe what other person tells them because they took more hits and are more experienced? not even the very scientists who are working solely on these compounds know entirely what they can cause on a long term to brain cells I can tell you this much though, they have permanent negative effects safe? sure, its not gonna kill you, but they still cause long term damage
>>701426235 Stupidest post of the day, but also, most well-crafted b8 of the day.
Have you ever felt your mind split into two and have a conversation with it? And then been convinced that one is trying to climb out of your ear, so you get left with a twitch, and the recurring sense that you have permanently damaged your brain?
It's not fun, but sometimes you get the trip you need, instead of the one you want. I was in that hell for about 4 hours until I calmed down, but it made me realise some shit. Like to stop taking massive amounts of acid.
No hospitals, police, or even SSRIs.
You're already in math realm, you may as well try to take advantage of it
>>701426906 And you realize that even though they are thoughts, some thoughts are detrimental to your health? Do you know the scientific field called psychology? They deal with your mind and just a few classes of psychology can show how minds can have a profound effect on you as a person. This is why people who mental disorders to go hospitals. Because they can't just 'ride it out and not go to ER' but because it is harmful to their well-being. If paranoia helps you personally then that's fine, don't go to ER but if you are like any normal person, you would seek help because you know it's not normal and you know it's not healthy. Keep being an ignorant drug user, it has no effect on me but spreading terrible information is just fucked up man
>>701426805 But being in extreme paranoia is very rich in information and can help you learn. Lol ok. You do that, I'll go ahead and learn when I'm not paranoid so I can grasp the learning concepts without being distracted at the thought of being paranoid
>>701408634 I hate listening to people spout this bullshit. At the end of the day acid is just another drug. You can use it however you want, and so will I. If I want to just trip out with out all the stupid psychonaut bullshit, I will. That's my prerogative.
>>701428723 It's not easy as 1-2-3 to change your mindset dumbass. If you are in extreme paranoia, you can't just willynilly think 'okay! I'll go ahead and think of positive stuff now!' It's much more difficult than that. If you are having an episode where everything seems to go against you, you aren't going to be able to convince yourself that everything isn't and all of a sudden be okay. That's not how the mind works. I'd implore you to do more research on the mind and LSD in general as you don't sound very experienced
>>701429213 When I had a bad trip, I did let them know. And guess what? The nurse treated me like a person! Guess what they didn't do? They didn't strap me down and have dozen people looking at me like I'm crazy. The nurse saw me as a person in distress. Surprise surprise. If there's nothing wrong, I won't leave the comfort of my house. But if i feel like I'm about to die or know a bad trip is on its way, you bet your ass I'm not going to hesitate to call for help. It's stupid not to
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