I'm not saying Trump is a perfect candidate for president. Far from it - he is an idiot in many ways. But he's far less dangerous and malicious than Hillary.
How can you not see the evil beaming from her eyes and laughter? All she cares about is herself. She'll say and do anything to get elected, and all of you are following her like brainwashed sheep - exactly what she wants. She is an awful awful person.
The number 1 problem facing America (and the world) today is terrorism. Hillary wants to increase refugee intake by 500%. Among them come bad people. It's not complicated. Why oh why are they swarming like ants to Western countries? Why aren't they going to Asian countries? Perhaps Mongolia, plenty of space there. Or developed countries in the middle east that share their religion and culture? Oh, and then after she let's the bad guys in - she'll take away our guns, too. So that we can't even protect ourselves from them. How great! Do you not realize what this means? Open your freaking eyes people.
That's the main reason why I'm voting Trump in November. I only just turned 18, but over the course of my life I developed something called CRITICAL THINKING. Which I sense all Hillary supporters lack.
Nevertheless, I am almost certain she'll win - because our country is full of fucking retards (and because the system is rigged). That is all.
This guy gets it. I'd like to know how terrrorism affects you on a daily basis. I'm pretty sure the odds of dying in a terrorist attack are greater than 1:10 million. I think you're more likely to get get buttfucked to death by a gay rapist.
how much does Trump pay you for these posts?
>because our country is full of fucking retards
They're easy to find they all wear red baseball hats that say "Make America Great Again"
>Asks why we don't use nuclear weapons and potentially kill everyone on the planet.
>Wants to expand private prison program
They're both zeroes. There is no lesser of two evils they're both fucking god awful oh my fucking god what the fuck holy shit horrible. Both of them.
Wheres your sources for this statement? All i see is a bunch of christain fucks trying to tell people who to live and effecting our governmental decisions. I havent even seen muslim influence in the slightest. Maybe youre just ignorant. Which can be backed by the fact that you think your vote for trump will matter. Electoral college decides, not the people.
And that's exactly the problem
There are MORE than 2 people running for president you asshat.
But is because everyone is as stupid as you that people don't think they can vote for anyone else.
Nobody even shows up to her rallies, Trump's are over capacity.
The only way she wins is rigging the election.
>did business with the wrong people
>got sued by butthurt liberals
>hasn't been charged with any crime
>broke national security as a politician
>probably paid to do so
>was found guilty but let off because reasons
>helping the poor
Maybe if you classify flying rich liberals around the world and paying for their accommodations as "helping the poor".
The Clinton Foundation does nothing to help the poor, it is essentially a lobbyist group posing as a charity that uses its funds to send liberal activists to help "educate" other countries on how they should be run.
The clinton foundation has raised way more then 2 billion, 1 million isnt shit to them, and as charitable donations, they are refundable on their taxes at the end of the year.
Also completely goes against any actual fact about the foundation as a whole, but hell put words on a pick on the inernet and any idiot with cognative dissonance will believe it if it fits their beliefs.
Dude, Trump is a clueless shitbag. The amount of world leaders saying they dislike him as POTUS is unreal, the US will go down in it's position in the world - if countries use alternative currencies to the U$D, we're in deep shit.
I hate Clinton too, Sanders would've been better
>if countries use alternative currencies to the U$D, we're in deep shit
Bretton Woods was destroyed by Nixon, and lots of countries are still using worthless USDs. Because the U.S.A. is that militarized.
And that comes from a Eurofag.
>hasn't been charged with any crime
Hillary Clinton SAYS she'll increase refugee intake, which is exactly what the liberals want to hear. How do you know she's not just saying that? You literally just said she'll say anything for a vote.
I'll take a corrupt politician who will benignly serve 1 term and be voted out in 2020, a woman that is hated by nearly everyone in her political circle- over a businessman who knows nothing of the system he is stepping into any day. And before anyone says "But he could have a cabinet do things!!!", the last president who did that was Reagan, who everyone on the right absolutely loves, but let me give a friendly reminder of the Iran-Contra affair and the flourishing of white collar crime caused by the deregulation of government and the actions/decisions carried out by Reagan's cabinet.
Trump is on the right social path, we need a candidate that can take his standpoint on the cancer that is Islam, and put it into an actual politician that can compose himself in a respectable manner, and ACTUALLY HAVE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS TO DO WHAT HE SAYS. Trump is a social speaker, we need a political leader, and in 2020, I hope we all vote for (a)n (relatively) uncorrupted one
They're working on it anyway, and it's only a matter of time. After the 08 crash, the discussion started, that basing all the economies in the world on a single countries currency was a recipe for disaster to begin with, especially when that country is then incentivized to play all manner of games with their position of absolute power, & it only happened by default anyway, not by sensible design, & needs to be superseded by a more reliable system within the next century.
The increasingly rapid rate of change in the geopolitical landscape with regard to Asia though, means it's anyone's guess how it's actually going to go.
Tell that to the US defense budget, pal.
OP I get it your hurting, no jobs seems like illegals are taking over and there hasn't been a decent white guy president who can sort this shit out. But seriously you are battling for the wrong team! if you had any sense you rise up and would murder the rich list fuckers who out sourced the jobs your daddy and grandpoppy used to have to some third world shit hole but look when some slick talking city slicker like Donald Duck comes in with his money and fancy talk it's easy to get talked away in his bull shit but trust me cow poke you will get fucked over by Donald Duck quicker than you can say canned apple pie if you drink his coolade, your not important to him and don't let his fancy words trick you otherwise
>Stop watching the news
Man, these liberal blindfolds are mighty comfortable!
I- I feel like hugging a muslim, o-or jumping in front of that friendly sounding truck! Maybe even running towards the sounds of screams and gunfire!
Hiliarys not even president yet. For one. Two even if she was president, the position isnt all powerful and she wouldnt be able to force customs or congress to do this.
Also, 5% of worldwide muslims are considered to be terroristic, and even then, like christainity, islam has different denominations. So it doesnt matter if we let some in.
Also, lastly, allowing refugees into a country doesnt mean the immediately affect or even will eventually effect the politics of it. It means we prove temporary asylum for people trying to escape, in this case a war we literally created.
So ill continue to rant about who fucking srupid you are because you let other people develop your opinion for you without fact checking or critical thinking. You goddamned moron.
And that's why they are pumping billions of USDs in their military? Dude, you are retarded.
The states currently have 80 carriers, two are constructed, and one is being planned. Even with one carrier you can wreck havoc upon several nations, and Europe does not have a strong military to begin with.
The only real threads to the states are Russia, China, and (maybe) India. And North Korea maybe, since they now have the ability to destroy the world from their submarines even if the main land got destroyed.
My point exactly. Unless the US has technology to destroy Iran and other countries with an deniable earthquake : D
So then what does the 11 aircraft carriers (that won't last longer than 48 hours in a real conflict) do exactly against thousands of anti-ship missiles?
It might be what democrats want to hear.
But there is not "one thing" Liberals just want to hear. Liberals want to hear as much data and consider as many options as possible, or they're not liberal. Literally, the definition of the word "liberal" is "many". Liberal thought = Many thought. Liberal views = many views. ...INCLUDING tradition, which conservatives seek to conserve, but not limited to it.
Hence, liberal republicans, like most of us, and conservative democrats, which Hillary mist definitely is.
That you don't even know what the fuck "liberal" means is the destruction of an entire generation educated by Rush Limbaugh.
ITT, a bunch of dumb kids pretending they understand military matters.
>wut do against anti ship missile, huh faggot?
2. Limited range. They are area denial weapons. Stay out of the area, blow them up from the skies.
3. "Thousands?" I don't think you understand how expensive and complex anti ship missile are. Also, having that many in a single area makes them easy to spot and destroy.
My bad, you are right. I looked at the number of all carriers, not the active carriers.
>That's what the Soviet Union did, look where it got them
Happened with many empires. Did it stop them from doing? No, it didn't.
And until that time, they'll just continue the party.
Im clearly not the retarded on here. Refugee status is not the same a citizenship. It lasts as long as the conflict in the country they are seeking asylum from.
What you think because another persons religious beliefs are enough to scare you stupid that it effects anyones elses thought process. I meam those two things are the only things you could attempt to insult from my post? Are you fishing for some sort of leg up in the arguement here? Because that would require you having enough knowledge and capability of thought to actually make sense in the arguement beyond insults.
As the republican congressman testified, if China finally made its move on Hong Kong, we'd be obligated by our treaties to defend Hong Kong. ...but we'd have to borrow the money from China to do it.
Shits fucked up.
It's funny, when Obama got elected both times every right-wing site predicted he would declare martial law and take everyone's guns...and it didn't happen. Here we are, eight years of Obama later, and the country is still here, people still have guns, etc.
It baffles me that this double standard exists - nobody seems to remember or care that the American right has been predicting the end of the world if they lose an election for the last twenty years, and yet people still take them seriously.
Yes, but that doesn't appease the filthy plebs.
Got to make them feel like they have a voice in the system, even if it is a marginalized and ignored one, because the minute it goes from 99.9999999999999999999% nonexistant to 100% nonexistant, they slit throats and burn down civilization again.
>Hurr durr Islamic culture can conform to western society
>Mohammed wasn't a warmongering pedophile
>The number 1 problem facing America (and the world) today is terrorism.
Only 3503 americans have been killed by terrorism, worldwide, since 1995.
Over 35,00000 have been killed by cars within the same time period.
Biggest threat my ass.
Against salvo of 10+ missles on the starboard side?
>2. Limited range. They are area denial weapons. Stay out of the area, blow them up from the skies.
Lookup Sunburn missle, D21
>3. "Thousands?" I don't think you understand how expensive and complex anti ship missile are. Also, having that many in a single area makes them easy to spot and destroy.
China has them on the ground, air, sea + 60+ subs, jamming, decoys
Anyone who thinks Christainity is a religon of peace should kill themselves.
See how that works.
Infact the number of christain terrorist attacks vastly out weighs the amount of islamic terrorist attacks.
Islamic terror attacks make up 10% of terror attacks worldwide. You fucking idiot.
YES, because after seeing how life is in US, homeless Syrian refugees will go back to their beloved homelands! Because everybody who enters this country will stay just until they are allowed to! Let me make this simple for that half-baked brain of yours:
TERRORISTS COME INSIDE COUNTRY +
TERRORISTS STAY IN COUNTRY +
TERRORISTS BREED IN COUNTRY = MORE TERRORISTS INSIDE COUNTRY
You literally just equated Christianity to Islam in that sense.
Lol. People like you are the reason the word terrorists was as easily coined as communist during the red scare. Domestic terrorism is vastily more prominent than foreignly perpetrated.
Not to mention the whole process these people would still have to go through. They actually do more extensive investigation on refugees than they do people with working visas. So as a terrorist it would be easier to actually go through the normal process of getting over here than it would be to come as a refugee
I hope so. It's starting to get bizarre as I get older. It's just the same five talking points over and over, updated for current events. Key points of the alt-right "Republican" platform are held up by fiction at this point.
For example, I can't seem to talk politics with anyone on the right these days without hearing about how refugees are flooding Europe and raping everyone.
I have family in Sweden, and not only have none of them been raped, by refugees or otherwise, but when I asked they couldn't think of anyone they knew personally who had been raped.
The way people talk about it, it's this huge dire threat, but in reality we could let in ten times the number of refugees we do now and never notice the difference. It's a complete non-issue compared to things like labor laws which affect you every day in huge ways.
And yet I hear nothing about labor relations from the right, just evasion until we can get back on the topic of black cocks.
Let's look at this from a simple perspective:
When Bill was president, it's possible that Hillary was the one doing all the actual leading during her husband's very economically beneficial term. Whether she was in charge or not, putting her in office means that whoever was leading us at the tail end of the 90's and making everything awesome will be in the white house again.
Are we really gonna pass that up for someone that openly insults other nations?
Sigh....you people, and your two-party system. You're voting trump for only one reason, you're a small-minded, white trash, middle-American blue collar worker who doesn't want immigration reform. You're too ignorant to explore your political options, so you try to justify Trump as the lesser of two evils by pointing out how he supports your small-minded interests. This is why America stopped being "great", and he's not going to change anything because it's either full-tilt to the left, or right in this country. And the problem with that is most people don't exist on either extreme. Most people responsible for its progression, that is. If you can sit here and honestly believe yourself trying to convince people to vote for trump for those reasons, you're a fucking idiot.
Gary Johnson for president, you fucking degenerates.
Well no shit.
If you went back to the 14th century, or the 13th, 12th, 11th, pretty much righ on down to the Holy Roman Empire, you'll see the same homicidal fundamentalist lunacy tearing the shit out of European culture and savaging entire populations in bloodbaths left and right too, and you'd be horrified as a 21st century Christian to see your cultural past. And don't even make the mistake of thinking the crusades were even a single percent of it.
The situation today is a mess bc we've essentially got a time rift opening up, and a traditional 14th century religion pouring out into our modern 21st century (ok 18th century for you originalists) civilization.
So, how far back in time do we need to roll back our civilization to deal with them? Do we undo the last 7 centuries of effort to go back to being a 14th century culture to eliminate theirs?
Or do we do nothing and allow their 14th century culture to replace ours?
Or do we try changing theirs and bring them up to date?
Who gives a fuck about refugees when we get buttfucked by our own governments that spent a gazillion money on war , banks , big corporations and politics to make even more money for themselves and normal folk are dying homeless from poverty and our generation leading shitty lives working 12 hours a day for a shit pay with a bachelor and master's degree getting no support from the government but paying a shitload on taxed every day.
31% of americans are christain.
23% are Muslim. With your bigoted thought process of a majority being muslims there would be much more muslim terror attacks than christain.
However, thats not true
>betting on a political option that realistically doesn't exist isn't ignorant
Honestly, I wish a third party candidate was viable in terms of the electoral process, but it just isn't. Even if he gets on the debates from the circulation petition, his shots of winning a single electoral college vote are historically zero.
>hurdur i liek linux
My point exactly. While we waste all this time and energy deciding who gets to come into America, aggressive automation and lax labor laws are making it worthless to be here at all.
But for some reason alt-right logic means that if a white working class guy is overworked and underpaid, it's clearly the fault of his black co-worker competing with him and not his boss replacing him with a machine.
Adding to that you have to be really big dumb fucks to even troll about refugees or religion when you have so much bigger problems to face your working conditions are getting worse each day our forefathers died in protests for us to have human working conditions and young people care more about those idiot topics than their own fucking lives.
Yes, well in your simple life, it probably sounds peachy to you, but unfortunately for you, our businesses do not want that. They want a consumer base of 7 billion, not 300million, and they want to capitalize on desperate people who will work for next to nothing to make our products, and we want cheap energy to power our nation, and make a fucklord of money on, and we want a reason to justify our bottomless pit of a defense budget and all the shit required of it. All these things require governmental, political & military positioning & intervention other countries.
>They actually do more extensive investigation on refugees than they do people with working visas.
Have you been living under a rock for a year? Do you not know anything about the refugee crisis in Europe circa last September? Refugees burned their passports. When asked to give their information most said they lost their passports and that their DOB was January 1st, and their name was Mohammad Mohammad, they were registered and managed to get through Macedonia, Serbia, Hungary and then finally got to North-Western Europe.
Hey! I've got a pop-quiz for you! Try and find a female refugee in this photo!
Approximately 1% of the United States is Muslim.
See what I did there? Not just spew random statistics to magically substantiate my claim?
See? This is exactly what I mean. You're literally being automated out of existence and you seriously care about a tiny influx of people you'll never meet?
I cannot fathom why 30,000 refugees and their religious and sexual behavior should determine the wealth and poverty of 300,000,000 people. Each and every refugee would have to go on a mass-murder spree to even come close to affecting most americans.
Did you even look at that picture. Like less than halfway up the people turn people, but tell me again how a photo that can mainly only be found in right wing proganda sites actually matters.
This very well is b8, but, in the off-chance someone actually reads this, here we go
I am voting for Hillary Clinton in November because I believe she has the experience to not run this country into a third world war. Trump, even ignoring his divisive comments, politically impossible ideas, and talent for attracting ire, has no political experience. None. Zip. Nada. Even if Hillary is EVERYTHING that people say (Which probably isn't true, she's probably somewhere in between the two extreme depictions), Donald Trump simply doesn't have any RELEVANT experience for running one of the most important countries in the world. He might do fine economically, but the presidency is as much about foreign affairs as it is improving life at home. I do not believe Trump could balance those
If you actually read the article about it from pew they say they really have no idea because its not a question on the census, also it was a guestimated amount based on projected growth rate of peiple who already identified as such with accordance to reproduction. It doesnt factor in the people who have converted or even the black Islamic movement.
It autocorrected the second people to white. Other than that i just didnt include proper punctuation, but like that really matters on 4chan. However, bringing to light is an obvious attempt to insult rather than denounce.
Do be kind enough to read this article titled "Horror: Number of Alleged New Year's Eve Sexual Assaults and Attacks By Muslim Refugees in Germany Reaches 500".
Yes, I do fucking care about a "tiny influx of people I'll never meet" because they are doing this sort of shit all over Europe.
It's not their land. The fucking mudslides can go back to where they came from.
Didn't say shit about that, thanks
Isolationism is simply a bad policy for the world right now. Stepping back from the China Seas would be bad; Stepping back from BEING NATO (He said he wants them to take on more of the burden) is bad for the Ukraine, Russia, and for helping Urope deal with their shitskin problems
Jesus, and you say I'm the retard
Not insulting, your post made absolutely no sense. Also, the people turn white because the photo was taken at Keleti Railway station in Budapest, Hungary. I was personally present as my school is right next to the railway station. I saw the situation develop over the course of a few months. What is your point?
>Isolationism is simply a bad policy for the world right now.
>Stepping back from the China Seas would be bad;
>Stepping back from BEING NATO (He said he wants them to take on more of the burden) is bad for the Ukraine, Russia, and for helping Urope deal with their shitskin problems
>Didn't say shit about that, thanks
You are only talking shit all the time, kill yourself before your vote. You don't deserve to live, you deserve to be tortured until you lose your mind, and then you deserve to be tortured until you get it back, and if that kills you, good riddance.
"Police in Cologne say the number of criminal cases relating to violent attacks in the city on New Year’s Eve has risen above 500."
If you read the actual press release, it says nowhere that these attacks are rapes nor does it say they're being committed by refugees. The headline has literally nothing to do with the actual press release. You have to see how stupid that is, right?
Further, there are 1.024 million people in Cologne, giving you a 0.0004% chance of being involved in one of these vague incidents as a citizen of that city.
You're seriously willing to trade away the right to be paid a decent living because you won't take a 0.0004% chance?
And people say liberals are cowards.
>hurr durr, let's make fun of an operating system that actually works because more people know about windows and apple
The problem with the libertarian party gaining traction is how much people actually understand about the electoral process. See, that attitude you have is part of the problem. So you'll vote for the wrong candidate because
>hurr durr, he'll never have a chance to win because we're too set in our ways to improve anything
Now, I'm not a Linux user. Well, not completely. I'm an engineer, I use it at work for secure networking and serial communication, it's easier to write programs for (although I don't completely understand why because I'm not a software programmer). It's not that it's better. It is an alternative. Something one uses when other, more established and we'll known things just aren't working for you.
Kinda like our government.
But as long as people like you are going to be all hurr, let's never change because the chance of success is low, then we'll never actually change. I can't believe people who are reasonably intelligent would allow such a travesty because they're so used to doing what everyone else does, or what their parents did, or what their church says do, or the internet. If that's the case, then I guess our country has what it's got coming to it.
All it takes is one and you fuckers will be on about banning guns again except this time it might stick and when America votes out of emotion to void the 2A we will soon see the voiding of the rest of the first ten. Hell we might as well not have anything at that point. That's the long game here. Not the guy you replied to
>You are only talking shit all the time, kill yourself before your vote. You don't deserve to live, you deserve to be tortured until you lose your mind, and then you deserve to be tortured until you get it back, and if that kills you, good riddance.
Jesus, someone's mommy didn't give her little boy tendies this morning
Stepping back from the China seas and the Ukraine means letting modern day dictatorships (Yeah Putins pretty much that, and Xin is just doing whatever the fuck he wants) with human rights abuses just take whatever lands they want through backdoor cold war. I'm not saying let's go invade either of these places, but the US has the strongest navy in the world, and let's fucking put it to good use if no one wants to cut spending
Now, helping NATO survive in Europe is important for similar reasons. First, helping europeans deal with the idiotic migrant influx so nobody else gets blown up in the name of Allah. Second, these are our ALLIES in Europe. Maintaining good relations, as well as defense in their countries, is important to keep military clout in continents where we don't live
OP kill yourself. It's only going to get worst if you're relying on your white privilege.
And you're 18 years old, you have zero ability to have any kind of critical thinking. You're only spewing the racist bullshit you hear your hillbilly father saying around the house.
Kill yourself kill yourself kill yourself.
>Jesus, someone's mommy didn't give her little boy tendies this morning
Fuck you, niggerjew. I am having orgasms from the imagination of you being tortured, from your screams, from being pushed to the bounds of your sanity until you finally snap, your mind goes away, you become an empty shell - and yet I continue to hurt you, to pain you, to rip apart your very biological existence, to reduce you to a blunt, hurting animal that has lost everything and is just waiting to be slaughtered like the animal it is.
And then I slaughter you, but slowly. You don't scream anymore, but I can still see your body reacting to the pain. I intensify it. I rip your skin open, your organs, I cut them out, blood flows everywhere. And then I will led you bleed to death. If you become unconscious, I give you shocks until you are awake again. If you don't wake up, I take a .45 APC and shoot three rounds on your head, separating your brain from your head completely, then take a big hammer and crush your empty skull.
Shit, now I came over my keyboard. Dammit.
You'll be a minority in America by next year according to the Vice President Joe Biden
Take a joke bro, noone is insulting Linux to the extent you need to defend it. Admittedly it was a lacking comparison.
I never said the government wouldn't change, I said the electoral system basically destroys any chance a third party candidate has at winning. I get your whole argument of changing that one vote at a time, but be honest with yourself bro - that is a generational timeframe change, not a presidential cycle change.
The truth is you need to be more concerned with local politics where you can actually affect change. That is how true government change works. Go to a town/city meeting and dig in. You don't change shit with your 1 vote for president every 4 years.
In both 2008 and 2012, the right-wing media in America predicted non-stop 24/7 that Obama's election would mean taking guns out of American hands. This was seriously the reason a relative gave me for voting for Romney - because Obama was sure to take away our guns and declare martial law.
Yet, here we are, and Obama is on the way out. The guns have not been taken. Martial law has not been declared. Have you considered that maybe, just maybe, they say this during every election whether it's true or not?
If Obama couldn't get together the popular support to change the Constitution - and to be clear he didn't even try - there is no possible way Hillary will be able to.
Again, we're talking about things like the right to get decent hours and a decent wage from your employer. Please don't gamble your quality of life because the boy who cried wolf is crying wolf again.
Not him but think about what would happen if we pulled that navy in tight around our water borders, built two walls north and south with patrolling death squads, and simply stopped sending money to other countries all together and invested 100% into America. It's a scary thought but think about what we could become if we focused on the right aspects and got religion out of politics(srsly that shits gotta go and I'm a Christian). Get America out of the world and focus on us for a couple years and then re enter the world better. Even if we remained the same the rest of the world would be a fucking wasteland if we didn't provide protection for everyone else.
>mfw every single trump-supporter got cucked
>the greatest cuck in modern history
>full-on amnesty now.
and they still.... think he'll win -.-
IT'S HAPPENING! 4CHAN MENTIONED IN CNN CONCERNING ATTACKS ON SHILLARY!
And besides, what do you care about Russia and China? They are not the U.S.A. They don't HAVE to adhere to our concepts of human rights, they can do whatever they want. The population always has the power to cut it down if it gets too wild, and then it's THEIR business, not ours.
The states have the strongest navy for nothing; it's time to get rid of it.
>First, helping europeans deal with the idiotic migrant influx so nobody else gets blown up in the name of Allah
Have you BEEN to Europe ever? I have. Actually, I am IN Europe. And I tell you, I feel less secure with the Muricans being here. During the cold war Middle Europe was a viable nuclear target simply because retarded Muricans put THEIR nuclear weapons to Germany.
No, Russia is NOT an European enemy. The
Muricans are simply occupants.
I'm sure all the mouth-breathers over in /pol/ are proud as punch
Well, one has to start somewhere. I get why you think it's a waste of time. But I do also agree that local politics is more important, to an extent. I live in Georgia, so there's little hope of digging in with such a wildly different political ideology. So I have to go bigger.
You do realize that this would mean a radical reduction of your quality of life, right?
Everything would become much, much more expensive. Anything imported or made with imported parts would become a luxury only for the rich. The overwhelming majority of electronics would be too expensive for the average consumer to buy. Travel would be severely hampered because nobody wants to play nice with us once we start patrolling our borders with death squads.
Here's a hint - Japan tried this and it didn't end well for them.
>Anything imported or made with imported parts would become a luxury only for the rich
You mean, like during the cold war? When the Dollar was still WORTH something? Nigger get real.
Think about this and tell me how it looks when looked at objectively. Clinton 1.0 had his AWB from 94-04. Violent crime surged and when the awb expired it bottomed back out. It was proven to be a failure and saved exactly 0 lives which was its intended goal("even if it saves one life it's worth it" remember that?). Well it didn't. It actually cost lives. So here we are now and Clinton 2.0 has said that if elected she would reenact the AWB. What purpose does that serve when it has already been proven to have no positive effects? Why would she do that? It's not going to help anything to ban guns that are used in less than 1% of all gun crime just based solely on aesthetic features. Obama was actually a decent president who wanted to help. I voted for him twice and I have tons of guns. But this level of shady shit coupled with another pointless AWB tells me that as a constitution loving American I can't trust her to keep my best interests at heart especially when she says she wants to emulate Angela Merkel. And we all see how well that's going.
Forgot to add that I think the awb will serve as a stepping stone to more piecemeal bans on up to all out banning and eventual confiscation. They're already calling bolt action deer rifles "sniper rifles" in California
>During the cold war Middle Europe was a viable nuclear target simply because retarded Muricans put THEIR nuclear weapons to Germany
Yes, the Soviets totally never had plans to spread communism all across Europe :^)
> You mean, like during the cold war? When the Dollar was still WORTH something? Nigger get real.
You've got to be having a giggle, mate. Are you seriously suggesting that the US was isolationist during the Cold War? I'd like to remind you that this is an era where we invaded a foreign country, rebuilt two foreign counties with taxpayer money, and bound ourselves in an everlasting bond of alliance with many foreign countries. The dollar was worth something during the Cold War because automation had not destroying the earning power of the American worker.
>Are you seriously suggesting that the US was isolationist during the Cold War?
Regarding people traffic they were less isolationistic, regarding business/military they were more isolationistic.
Let's say a magical situation happened and tomorrow the USA along with all its military interests abroad has simply vanished. In 6 months the only thing that would remain would be Russia, China, North Korea, South America, and the new European caliphate(including the Middle East).
I've come to the conclusion I'm going to vote for Mr. Orange. He is way less dangerous than Hillary and holds the chance of actual change to the current shifty policies whereas Hillary will for sure make them worse.
>more direct involvement in the sand kingdoms
>continued use of a shitty health care system, honestly fix the fucking thing.
>wants to bump heads with Russia
>wants to bring in thousands of "refugees" like Germany did.
Lady is ridiculous and has no place serving as the head of state after her total cluster duck as the state department.
And? The original point implied the Soviets would have left Europe alone if the Americans weren't present.
Which is ridiculous on its face as capitalism is the immortal enemy of Communism, victory against which is not complete until the revolution is worldview and total.
Does this negate the fact there were idiot warhawks in the US? of course not.
The only proposed firearm restrictions proposed by even the most liberal Democrats are:
-An assault weapon ban (AR-15's and shit)
-A high cap mag ban
-Universal background checks
and Hillary is not Liberal AT ALL. She completely bought off by corporations. I mean, I hate Hillary too, but she's not taking your fucking guns away retard.
You _do_ know that even to this day they don't have pure capitalism in Europe, but socialised capitalism? Meaning that there are (supposed to be) strong laws that hold companies in check while otherwise letting them act independently.
Such a system is only enemy to one other system, and that's capitalism. In fact, capitalism is the enemy of any other system because it demands unlimited growth.
So, I am quite sure that the Soviets wouldn't have come. The aggressor, IMO, was always capitalistic America.
Shut the fuck up spazoid. The way things work now makes it a two party system basically. These are options, a third party isn't going to win fucking grow up and accept it.
Fuck no he isn't going to win and if anything just about as retarded as these two shit stains.
>muh open borders
>bring all dah migrants
>no drug tests for welfare
>#1 problem is terrorism
How about those tens of millions people who live in poverty in your own fucking country. Y'all suburb faggots are the real cancer that is America. All living inside your own bubbles, I hope some terrorist blows up your neighbourhood
No it'd called reading books and actually looking at history. What next you're going to tell me the bazis weren't aggressive and Poland started the war with Germany and Russia? You're retarded.
im voting Mr. apple because everyone else is orange. every time you get a republican he or she destructive and every time you get a democrat he or she sells your public service away to conclude they both do the same thing and blame eachother since burnie is out noone in this has sense.
And all that stuff does nothing to help the situation and only serves to criminalize the law abiding citizen. Background checks could be looked into but there needs to be a focus on mental health if anything. "Assault Weapons(Kek)" are used in less than 1% of all gun crime and are only banned based on aesthetic features. A mag cap would only serve the criminals who would attack in groups and actually cost more innocent lives than it would save. All that being said I still think all these things are just distracting points as the real purpose of an awb is just as a stepping stone to make it easier to piecemeal more bans and pointless regulations that do diddly squat in actually producing results. There's a reason these things are protected by our constitution. And with a scotus pick on the table this is far too dangerous to just say "well she would never do that"
Poland had a good relationship with Germany up until Piłsudski died. Then they fucked everything over, denied Germany access to Danzig, and were basically just faggots scheming with France, hoping that they would come to help if Germany finally had enough (Hahaha).
Nope, you are retarded, you should kill yourself and any family you have.
the only problem is that america is always on the offensive and not the deffensive in the middle east it is simple to stop bombing in the middle east and have more intense border checks guns are a hard one though
LOL you never read a letter of Communist literature in your life. From Marx to Trotsky, the Worldwide Revolution was and is the end game.
>they don't have pure capitalism in Europe, but socialised capitalism?
Is it communism? No, and thus the Revolution has failed thus far.
>capitalism is the enemy of any other system because it demands unlimited growth
In Communism, there is no room for anything else but communism. It hopes to be the savior of humanity.
not the guy you are arguing, but you do know you just literally said poland asked for it right? So it's ok to rewrite history or something? I hope you are a troll because you can't be that stupid. I thought OP was the autism winner in this thread but you are really trying to take the cake.
These are different ideologies, and on top of that ideologies are often implemented differently. If I remember correctly, Stalin was no big fan of either Trotsky nor Marx, and even after Stalin died they didn't demand a world revolution. That's all just in your demented head.
That doesn't prove the Soviet Union wasn't an aggressor you cum gurgling nigger. They swallowed up Balkin states and invaded Poland. For fuck sake a major part of their aim was spreading the revolution as they did throughout history.
>proxy war in the Spanish civil war
>numerous revolutions in south America and Asia
Also Germany should have been helped to beat them.
this. read this. then say he is less dangerous than say, an idiot given the most powerful responsibility in the world.
I see your point. However, can you name a reason a law abiding citizen should have a semi automatic military grade rifle with 30 rd mags? That is a weapon with the sole purpose of killing other people. I think that you should have to go through extensive background checks and qualifying training to get one, if you should even get one at all. And saying that firearm restrictions will lead to an across the board gun ban is simply just a slippery slope argument. And I agree, "Assault weapons" are rarely used, but they have the potential to do things like the incident at Orlando. Handguns are far more common killers, I think to obtain a handgun you should have to at least go through extensive background checks and training
Poland was asking for it, although it was basically settled there would be a new European war already in 1919 with the Treaty of Versailles. If it wasn't against Poland, it would have been against France.
And I do not listen to historians who do not go into archives and don't search for the original documents. Most historians are just copying from each other. If you want to know the truth you have to search for the real paper.
>I only just turned 18, but over the course of my life I developed something called CRITICAL THINKING
You're a fucking newbie in life, kid. While I agree you americucks really fucked yourselves this election. You really don't have a good choice either way. So I'm just gonna say this;
>RIP Uhmurka, was nice knowing you (not really though)
>The number 1 problem facing America (and the world) today is terrorism. Hillary wants to increase refugee intake by 500%.
1> she wants to allow 65,000 people int the USA - 0.002 of the population of the USA. And she wants to let in refugees - people fleeing terrorism. and she wants to vet them on the way in. so no big deal here.
2> terrorism does not concern me (living in Europe) global warming does. and is a far greater threat to world peace and security, and the lives and lifestyles of all of us. unrestricted global debt (manufactured by an unrestrained financial services industry tat is intent on bleeding the real economy dry) is another problem. Nuclear proliferation may be a problem. Putting trump in charge of Anything would be a problem. Putin, trumps friend and backer, is a problem.
there are many more pressing problems, and funny enough, Hillary has been dealing with all of them and knows something about them. Unlike Trump who knows nothing about world affairs, economics, constitutional law, or anything necessary to be President.
>They swallowed up Balkin states and invaded Poland.
Yes, as the war in Europe still continued, you king of all retards. And instead of guaranteeing that Europe would remain block-free the Muricans didn't want to do that, and Germany and all the other "free" states flocked themselves to the west.
And then, when the USSR broke down, they FINALLY got that guarantee that there would be no NATO expansion to the east - and guess what? That guarantee was completely null and void.
The difference between the USSR and the Russians today is that the USSR was smarter.
>even after Stalin died they didn't demand a world revolution
>implying they didn't fund or supply literally every instance of communism for their entire existence
>implying they wouldn't have fucking adored a full scale revolution in the US and attempted to agitate one constantly
Yea, but I guess I'm the demented one.
trump stages his shows in small halls (nad then complains that people can't get in and blames fire officers for not letting him overpack the room and endanger lives - even saying it is because of political bias - great leadership and care for your people, Mr president) Hillary has decent size crowds for a candidate in modern times - not huge, but she is not a circus act like Trump. thing is, the people who go to Trump rallies are the only people who will vote for him. he may get a few thousand in a town of a hundred thousand - looks good, but big deal - all the rest of the town will vote against him.
>(nad then complains that people can't get in and blames fire officers for not letting him overpack the room and endanger lives - even saying it is because of political bias - great leadership and care for your people, Mr president)
source? Not a trump or hillary fag, just curious.
Just because they were in the military doesn't make them terrorists, you idiot. Defending their homeland from faggots like yourself does not make them terrorists.
>Yea, but I guess I'm the demented one.
You got that very right. After all, it wasn't the USSR that would sent U2 espionage airplanes so closely to the border of the enemy that they were legitimately shot down for crossing the border for meters.
Why are Muricans so retarded?
>>broke national security as a politician
>>probably paid to do so
>>was found guilty but let off because reasons
ah, sorry, but no. Did not break national security - used an email server that was not departmental controlled, but used same security protocols and was not hacked (as far as we can tell) So may have been hacked, but if so, nothing of national security was on it.
you overstate the issue here.
probably paid to do so - no evidence of this whatsoever.
found guilty - no, not.
try telling the truth sometime, it is more persuasive than this stream of lies.
as for trump - trump got sued by his business partners, by people he refused to pay for work done (breaking his word frequently) and sued by people he had conned by selling overinflated claims about how wonderful and yuuge his projects were going to be. Every time he sells something he lies about it. and he is now selling a pack of lies.
I also believe Trump is less dangerous than Hillary, however I think if you are a true critical thinker, you'd pick the best candidate regardless of party. I'm voting for Jill Stein for that reason, the Democrats and Republicans want you to vote for them and only them, and it's time for a change in those corrupt beliefs.
>11 Feb. 2016
> "Last night Trump held a rally at the River Center in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and the attendance broke the charts. Over 12,000 people showed up for the event, destroying the previous record for attendance of 8,000, set by an Elton John concert."
lol, someone who does not realise that sallaries are paid to aid workers, travel is used for aid workers, as are other expenses..
the clinton foundation does not make donations to other groups because they usually top slice off money for their admin, and often then pass the money to on the ground charity organisations that have their own admin costs - so that little moneyactually gets used to do the charitable work. they work directly on the ground - paying people to do so - so their admin costs are lowered, and more money goes to the good wrks. but hey, cook the books the way you like - you republicans are good at that false accounting aren't you?
oh and when will we see Donnie boy's tax returns?
actually the british are very unwilling to try this - 87% of members of parliamtn are against Brexit, and it probably won't happen - they are trying to work out a way to stop it now.
isolationism in a globalised economy means being North korea. Good luck with that.
>is an idiot in many ways
>because our country is full fo fucking retards
>lists Hillary's faults, refuses to list the many ways that Trump is an idiot, and ignores cult following of Trump
>I developed something called CRITICAL THINKING
No, no you didn't. You heard/read/learned of it's existence, and you have yet to form the appropriate nuances and maturity to use it. You said it yourself; you just turned 18. You just got away from the age of innocence and the institution that robs you of any real responsibilities or consequences, assuming you're not vandalizing property, smoking dope, or skipping classes. You know, the average "critical thinking, extra smart" teenager.
You need to realize that putting entity #1 on a pedestal does not immediate necessitate that entity #2 is any worse or better in virtue of #1's mere existence. That kind of realization, that kind of genuine understanding is what you get when you utilize critical thinking skills. You learn, and you don't care if it hurts your precious sensibilities; to do otherwise is to be disingenuous and lack integrity.
And, your Hyperbole is showing. Not to mention, in that since you cannot seem to truly criticize your lesser evil...
>Isolationism is maybe what America needs again
> I only just turned 18, but over the course of my life I developed something called CRITICAL THINKING.
>Still buying the crap that your vote matters
Whoever you choose, you lose.
The table is tilted, the game is rigged
Your vote don't matter because shillary cliton is going to be elected regardless the true president election outcome.
See this is where the argument turns. Everything you said is based on opinion and not backed up at all by statistics and fact. What you think I SHOULD be allowed is irrelevant. I like to shoot. It's fun. And as a law abiding citizen there is no reason, especially statistics based reason, that I shouldn't be allowed anything. If I had the money I could buy full auto. I would if I could. And I would never do anything other than take it to the range because it's fun. I have that right. To say well lets ban a certain type of rifle because "Orlando" is to legislate based on emotion and feelings. That's a real slippery slope.
>i only just turned 18
>course of my life
what the fuck your course was babypark
I say we section off a part of the country and put them in. If the govt could guarantee that they couldn't get out and they could live there completely isolated from the rest of America I wouldn't care if it were a million refugees. Provide them a large safe space and provide them with necessities to live and respect their religion to the point as not to break American law(no beheadings and honor killings or rapes and child marriages) and punish those that do per American law. I vote for the entirety of California. And the citizens of Cali would kill to be that progressive. They probably wouldn't even leave.
>muh bad for England
>Democracy is only good if the outcome is what I want
I would just like to say fuck you to the Muslim apologist here. I don't give a a shit if they're a danger or not, I do not want them near me because I'm a racist fuck and to top it off intolerant of any religion. Eat shit. My fantasy is often of one a few dirty mudslimes going on a killing spree killing children to the point where Americans get so mad that they say enough is enough and go on a mass genocide on American soil.
FUCK YOU DIRTY FUCKING FILTHY MUDSLIM PIG FUCKERS
>How most real Americans feel translated
hillary is like an old bridge that's been working for years. it may sway sometimes, but at least you can see the end and people have gotten across. Trump is like a bridge you can't see the end of and furthermore, there's a sign next to the bridge saying "best bridge in the world. never fails can take up to 30 tons of weight. believe me i have experts".
You would also forget the many other facets that are involved with having a POTUS.
Like actual human understanding of what's going on, on the parts of people who may not even speak English.
Who have weapons. And an economy for trade. If our favorite idiot's handlers can't stop him from slamming his fists at the dinner table, irregardless of whether or not he gets another slice of cake...
We are more fucked than a cunt who won't change a thing.