>>700947126 Nationalism is only caring for a smaller collective. The world has managed to come together so much in the last 100 years. Now because some dumb fucks pushed it too far it is all coming undone and coalitions are breaking apart.
>>700947592 And this kind of thinking is what scares me. I can't dispute your argument but I think it's pretty far to the right. The "Us Vs Them" idea will only lead to aggression, it's basically tribalism on a bigger scale. Some degree of nationalism is most likely required in the current global setting but too much and we will stop cooperating.
>>700947860 That is the injustice which, in trying to be addressed, is causing all this discontent. "Why should we share our wealth with people who don't deserve it?". "Because it's the right thing to do" isn't a good enough response for some people, especially when those we are trying to help seem to be killing us.
>>700947116 Nationalism is not a solution to anything. It's a way to get morons to join the army for free when the toffs want someone invaded. It's monkey thinking and it needs to die.
The problem of Europe is the governments breaking the social contract with their own citizens for the sake of catering to rich fucks, which is painted as liberal agenda. Minorities get favored treatment when they commit crimes, they are not put under any pressure to integrate, more and more of them are being let in without any selection process. I know the whole point is to reduce the cost of labor, thus making our products more competitive on the market, but us down here on the streets won't feel any benefits from that. We just get to guess if one of the towelheads who just moved in is a terrorist plotting to hit the local school.
Pull out of Middle East, let things settle, help them rebuild. That's the solution. That's the only solution.
>>700948035 I think the biggest issue is a complete lack of respect for themselves, coupled with the migrants own disrespect for the hosting countries. Nationalism isn't necessarily a bad thing, provided your pride in one's own country's achievements is counter-weighed by a healthy respect for the accomplishments of other nations achievements. The only real problem with nationalism is when you start to devalue the accomplishments of others. It's really saddening to see what's happening in the west right now as someone who has spent their life studying world history. . .
>One is closed and focused on its own prosperity. The other one is 100% open and doesnt prefer itself over the other group.
The idea that people think this is a representative description of the global climate is what scares me. If you honestly think that this is accurate then you are far more right than you think you are as it is totally unreasonable and choked in fear.
>>700948775 sorry to say as a person from asia i can tell you towelheads are nothing like the first world has ever seen. they are united so you will require something similar nationalism is the answer.
>>700948557 Nazis are one of many groups in history we can look at to see why socialism is the true us against them mentality. In order to have a socialist rule, you need everyone to agree to the conditions within that government. For someone to disagree is for someone to then become part of the out group. Nazis used race and religion, surprise surprise, the current hardcore left is using race and religion. I say hardcore left deliberately because leftists love the "not all..." argument.
>>700950568 You are right. We shouldn't fight back to anything we should #alldietogether Who are we to decide whom may not decapitate people because we are all le human race even though cults are the problem.
Tell that to Prussians or Tartars. They got fucked and murdered en masse for not being able to form/sustain nationalism.
Albert was no doubt a great scientist, but he was wrong on many things, even in physics ("god doesnt play dice with universe" on quantum physics etc.). Doesnt mean everything he says is holy. Thats an argumentation fallacy.
I prefer to hear sociologists on the topic of society, dont you think thats better?
>>700951303 Why would I be proud of my country, I didn't make it or work for it? I can care about the people who live in a country and still not give two shits about the name of the bit of land they live on or the nationality of the governors as long as they govern in a way that I agree with.
>>700951692 But those people = nation. Nation isnt some abstract something, its literally the people.
Thats what it is, you contradict yourself.
>Why would I be proud of my country, I didn't make it or work for it? If everyone in history of your country acted like you, it wouldnt even exist and you would live in central-africa-tier shithole (where nationalism practically doesnt exists, what a coincidence)...
>>700946770 the problem is not enough muslims if u had more muslims he would have felt more welcome in your country and less of an outcast so just keep aquireing more muslims and soon you will have everlasting peace
>>700952144 I never said I wasn't part of a nation. By the definition of the word, I am. Hell, I am probably what would be considered a model citizen of my nation. My beliefs and morals have been shaped by the morals of the nation I grew up in.
But, if that group of people, that "nation" start acting in a way that I don't agree with then I will feel no need to go along with it just because it's "My nation".
I'm probably coming across far more contrary than I mean to.
>>700952388 the problem is you're still breathing i hope you fuckers are sterilized you dont have a right to reproduce since you do it so fast anyways cant blame u dough what is there to do in buttfuck nowhere desert land?
>>700952842 Yeah, look at Japan. There is something very nice, special and comforting among living in a society where everyone has a shared history, a shared culture. Theres a sense of unity and togetherness like you're all in the same boat. I think societies like that are much nicer then the countries made by big Government globalist control freaks where the native people and the native culture is constantly demonized and all the shittiest cultures like Islam are celebrated over your own in your own land. Yeah... I'll take Japan like ethnic Nationalism over today's absurd no borders no discrimination globalism.
>>700949725 >Points out logical fallacy >Proceeds to generalise that all leftists are illogical and incapable of creating arguments that aren't flawed I don't expect you to understand why you're a retard
>>700953897 we have 6 governments. And voting doesn't work, since there are a bunch of laws and rules in place to keep the current parties in the gouvernement at all cost. Losing an election by having 0 votes will result in only 1/3 of loss in chairs max. If a small party doesn't get the minimum votes in any city, the votes in that city of that party will go to te current biggest party. Not voting is voting for the current biggest party.
>>700953553 What a self hating cunt. She is the worst German ever. She will be the end of Germany and Europe as you know it. And the European faggots eat this shit up and sit idly by as her and her supporters welcome a violent culture in with open arms. Better not defend yourself next time a raghead decides to spontaneously combust. It'll be the gulag for racism. Also don't call erdogan a goat fucker. Remember you fucks do NOT have freedom of speech
>>700954712 last election the blanc votes do not go to any party. But still being forced to vote is anal. >>700954980 depending on the situation, is it at home, is it a legal weapon, has the person a weapon, did you wounded/killed the person, was it by accident or intended. There are so many things to keep in mind.
>>700955504 I mean a dude kicks in your door and proceeds to beat your wife to death with his bare hands. Or even on the street proceeds to beat your wife to death with his bare hands. A big 127kg(eurofag math it's 280freedom units) motherfucker that she can't get away from and you're standing there with a loaded gun and shoot him until he stops moving. Here in the USA that's a good shoot and literally nothing will happen aside from a probable handshake from the police and a thank you.
>>700946770 Belgium is fuckin Destroyed by these types of Mokros ( mostly marrokan ) you can't even be out in the city in the weekends without getting into a conflict with them just for watching at them can be enough for them to start fighting . we saw it coming way back when i was wtill a youngster but never thought it would be so extreem like these days FFs
>>700953569 Same applies to you, burger. All you do is jack each other off to the thought of having an armed revolution as you watch recaps of this year's best handegg replays and imagine fucking your sister. America is too cucked to have an armed revolution. The government doesn't fear you at all. You can blame everyone else for not doing it, but you dixietards are all the same.
>>700956415 not really mass shootings by non-Muslims accounting for .000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of deaths in any decade and gun crime they do happen but very rarely now obviously because of Muslim immigration they are happening more often but we brought that upon ourselves also if you get rid of black ghetto communities the gun crime rate is on-par with or is lower then most European countries despite their much weaker or non-existent gun rights So yeah occasionally giving up a few lives for an important freedom is worth it and a risk most Americans are willing to take though with better healthcare and screening for troubled isolated individuals even those rare losses can be lessened.
>>700946770 no guys u don't need to destroy the eu this would be weak ur countries against Islam, even i think brigfags needs to return to eurozone gonna tell u what u need, when ww2 in america build concentration camps 4 japs in facilities constructed under extreme security measures, then u need to do the same 4 those sandnigga rapefugees & deporting those who do not conform immediately & when the contingence with syria/isis stops then return those ppl to thier sand homeland, if they don't wan`t then not be allowed to stay in ur eurocontries yo fags
>>700955841 I doubt even in the USA you will get a handshake from a cop if you killed a guy specially if it was a nigger, shit will hit the fan. Anyway because this is an act of self defence you won't get jailed or fined if you beat him up. using a gun can only be used when there is no other option to safe yourself or another from an attacker.
>>700957169 I am. You can only use the gun according to our law as a last resort as an act of defence. The scenario you wrote you can't use the gun. If he was threatening to use an firearm/weapon or beating her to near death with a weapon or shooting at her that would be okay to shoot him.
>>700957091 Well if these numbers are to low for you lets take a look at a different example: According to the cdc in 2013 died 10,6 out of 100,000 people though firearm injuries in the US. In the same year in Germany it was a total number of 57 (that 0.071 per 100.000).
So I don't want to take away your rights, you have to decide for yourself, but if the rate of firearm deaths is nearly 5 times higher than the death count caused by HIV, you might consider it as a problem.
And don't start with the shitty argument that switzerland has more guns per citizen than the USA and less deaths, so it couldn't be about the guns. That is complete bullshit, in switzerland the people who own a gun were in the army and trained to use one. If you would train everyone to be careful with his guns, no one would want to take them away. But as long as the USA is full of fucktards who accidentally shoot their families you have a real problem, which would be fixed by banning guns.
>>700958523 ok and if you take out high crime gangbanging black communities the difference becomes small and if you take out Hispanics too then it drops down to being almost equal the native ethnic group (non-White hispanics) in America have a firearm death rate/crime rate comparable to that German rate. So no its not fucktards its high gun crime minority communities and their awful gang/violent cultures that are artificially raising our rates past your European standards.
>>700959125 So the native ethnic group should have to give up their guns because a small minority group can't handle them in a civilized manner? Doesn't seem fair to me. Not to mention the majority of guns used by those communities aren't even legally obtained. The rate of crime among legal gun owners in the US is very low. I think below 2%.
>>700959324 Of course they exist but we shouldn't have to pay for their poor behavior. We should criticize them heavily and try to figure out how to help them come closer to reaching the behavioral standards of the native ethnic group without just giving them more free money or letting them avoid taking responsibility. Better anti-gang measures in the highest crime communities would be a start.
>>700959303 But the people that actually want to take ban all the guns are just fringe liberals with dyed hair. What is the problem with closing loopholes on obtaining guns and increasing background checks? I realize that you can't solve gun problems by just taking away guns, but the lack of effort from conservatives to do ANYTHING is astounding to me. It's not very fair for the native ethnic group to have to do this, but would you rather have your population die off and be the joke of the world?
>>700958523 Guy you replied to here. I don't look at per 100k between countries very much but what I do look at are totals for America. There are on average 30k gun deaths a year. 17k are homicides. 17k are the only ones on the table since accidents are the fault of people and suicidal people have that right and it's a whole other debate altogether. Now couple that with defensive firearms usage. 100k AT LEAST with figures from impossible to account for being speculated in the low millions. So now we have at least 100k-2M, and I'm being VERY conservative in my estimates, compared to 17k homicides or even the whole 30k. Not to mention the fact that of the defensive uses 99.9% of the time no shots are fired. Yeah. It's not a gun problem. There's 90 million legal gun owners in America controlling 310 million legal guns. If America had a gun problem, you'd know.
>>700958984 So you analyzed the problem more or less correctly. If you take a look at the education rate of whites and then of blacks and hispanics, you can see that they are on average less educated (according to census education report 2015). And education and crime rate correlate antiproprtional. So your problem breaks (partly) down to low educated minorities.
So you could try to fix this, but all in all if stupid people can't get weapons it would fix it also. So either way would fix your problem, but at the moment it seems like the US doesn't want to change anything like this, neither trying to educate the stupid nor to ban the guns. And the problem won't go away without any attempt to change it
>>700959948 Hillary wants to ban guns. She already has another failure of an AWB written up for when she gets in. Sure. Let's ban a gun used in less than 1% of all gun crime because it's scary and hurts my pwogwessive widdul feefees.
>>700960328 The stupid people aren't buying their guns at gun stores, Walmart, gun shows, and pawn shops. Passing laws regulating me, the legal gun owner, only punishes me. They don't give a fuck what your laws say. They will get them anyway.
>>700959948 I am ok with common sense loopholes being closed and some checks (maybe) but nothing far beyond that. I don't want it brought to the point where you can lose an important constitutional right for basically any little reason or massive restrictions on the types of guns you can own (their shouldn't be any restrictions on that and there already are.
Also I believe in Nationalism and considering that America largely built the modern world and lots of the technology that makes life so much easier for all of us on this globe I don't feel shitty foreigners have a right to make fun of us and honestly I could care less what foreigners think of my country. Mind your own business is what I would say to them.
Also if they make fun of us because they aren't smart enough to dissect the statistics and realize our freedom doesn't lead to insane gun crime but its because we have certain troubled communities of ethnic foreigners (who never should have been here in the first place [fuck slavery]) then thats also not my problem and just displays their own ignorance.
This is common in belgium now. This kid walks in the street praying to kill christians, while the belgian cucks stay at home scared of being called racist if they do anything. Verviers really is a shit hole now, and more and more cities are becomming shitholes too. And I will not talk about Bruxelles..
>>700960328 Yeah except non-collegiate Whites don't have a crime rate that much higher then college Whites. The "they aren't educated enough" argument doesn't fly in my book (I don't agree with it). Besides with endless student loans avaliable (especially for minorities) and affirmative action for actually getting in it isn't like we don't make it easy for minorities who want to work hard and get schooling in the door.
Its really just about how our culture deals with ethnic differences and certain ethnic groups that keeps them the way they are. We allow welfare as a crutch. We let communities abdicate blame on racism or cops. If we just stopped defending them (letting them develop unearned victim complexes) and let the entire nation (including the media) call them out for their shithead behavior and made them accept high levels of policing they'd eventually get better. We've forced policing on black communities before and they do start improving. Then the Democrats come in, call the policing racism and allow the communities to go back down hill.
>>700959948 The gunshow loophole is only a thing in states that allow non FFL holders to have booths. Yes this is a problem. But people in America have the right to sell their property freely if they aren't "in the business" and just selling it to sell it. There are already laws in place that make selling guns to felons and crazy people a stack of felonies for all involved. Same thing goes for interstate gun sales without a transfer(straw sales). The legislation everyone asks for already exists. And in most cases these places of acquisition aren't even where the criminals are getting their guns. As far as background checks are concerned. The current system could use an update in that if it kicks back no info in a timely manner you get no gun(Charleston loophole, how roof got his) and we should find a way to work mental records in there. But that's a whole other thing. As far as the system itself in that when it works? It works fine. It takes 5 min to run the check. If it kicks back no info try again. If nothing again then no gun. That's the only change I'd make
>>700961715 I barely learned shit in highschool and I went to expensive private schools. I certainly didn't learn how to behave or what morals are from my schools. My parents taught me that and set a good example for me.
Also we've pumped a ridiculous amount of tax payer money into our public school system. If it still isn't working then maybe the Government should get out of the school business?
>>700961606 Funny thing is, I don't think he is dangerous at all, he is very religious and seems educated. The problem is the shitheads listening to them, and who are fucked in their head in the beginning.
>>700961442 She wants another arbitrary AWB. This is common knowledge. The only purpose another AWB serves after the last one was a colossal failure is a stepping stone to more types to be banned. This will go on and on until we're left with nothing. They're already calling bolt action deer rifles "sniper rifles" in Kommiefornistan
>>700961442 Also who the fuck gets to decide who's on the list? There's senators putting each other on the damn list for luls. If Hillary herself was in control of the list then it's "all conservatives are on the no fly list now turn in your guns."
>>700960236 Well playing it down is a nice attempt but bullshit, so you say its ok that 30k people die because of firearms? First of all that "only" 17k are crimes doesn't matter, because lets take a look at the other 13k. You say these doesn't matter because it is either a fucktard to stupid to use a gun, or a suicidal person. I have a problem with the suicide argument, because according to the cdc there were more than 21k suicides using firearms in 2013, but also there are more than 12k homocides using firearms in the same year, but all in all 33k death by firearms. So something has to be wrong with the statistics. I couldn't find any hint in the report if suicides were not in this statistic, or if there are any errors with these statistics. So i will now argument based on your numbers. First of all 17k death by crimes, ill come back to this later, but that means that 13k are either suicides or accidents. The suicides can't be prevented, if they won't shoot themselves they would find an other way to kill themselves, there is no point in arguing. But lets say, just for the sake of argument that there are about 3k accidents. A pretty low number relative to 30k at all. You argue that they are stupid and it's their own fault. But thats bullshit. Let's say there is a fucktard, who owns a gun, and doesn't take care of it. He has a child, lets say a boy, who don't really know about that, takes the gun and shoots a stranger on the streets. So it's because a fucktard can own a gun that someone who might be just unlucky to walk the wrong way, to get shot. I didn't found a statistic how many people are getting shot per year without dying, but in my opinion every one is too much. I don't care if someone accidentally shoots himself, thats just survival of the fittest, but if others get shot because of stupidity thats just bullshit.
>>700962844 And this could easily be stopped by not even banning guns, but rather requiring people who want to own a gun to meet some requirements, like not being a stupid fucktard.
So now lets take a look at the homocides committed during crimes. Most people Argue, if someone want's to commit a crime he can even illegally buy a gun. Thats true, just take a look at the recent shooting in munich. But the problem i have with this is, that people getting shot in crimes, that doesn't require a gun. You could also rob someone using a knife. Only a few amount of crimes "require" guns. Every time someone gets shot during a burglary that could be prevented with stricter gun restrictions.
It's not about banning the guns from those who use them carefully, its about those people who are just fucktards and shouldn't be able to get one in the first place.
To drive a car you need a license which requires training and an exam. So why not for guns?
I don't want you guys to completely bann them, i like guns by my own, i love shooting as a sport, but in my opinion only guys should be allowed to own guns if they can use them correctly
>>700963746 So if you had a magical solution were everyone could own a gun without any accidental deaths, you wouldn't like this solution?
It's all about minimizing. It's about compromising between cutting of freedom with minimizing the problems. Like the need of a drivers license. Everyone can drive a car, as long as he knows how to use it
>>700964243 Tell that to my wife after a home intruder rapes her and beats her to death. There are countless instances like they each year where a person avoided death or severe trauma because they didn't have their freedom of arms taken away from them. Sadly you big Government people will never understand the value of gun rights. I can understand your perspective but you can't understand mine yet. That leaves a truly fruitful discussion hard to be had.
>>700965618 No, because my wife is a good shot so instead of getting raped and murdered she kills the insane home intruder and all is well. But nice to know you're ok with her being helpless and basically only surviving if he decides to be nice and that she shouldn't even have the option to defend herself.
>Because in most cases you would be the rapist according to the statistics. What the fuck does that mean?
You also forget that without a well armed population resistance against true Governmental tyranny is impossible. But again you'd never think of collectively bringing down a corrupt Government and if you were in charge back during the days of the founding fathers America never would have broken free of the tyrannical and arrogant British monarchs. You got no spine. Put pillows on everyone and bend over when the rapist comes and home he doesn't murder you. People like you don't understand how good it feels to actually live in a free country.
>>700965743 So back to my first argument, if death is minimized, then how comes that the us have about 25 times the death by firearm rate per citizen than Germany? Seems like Germany minimized better than you.
>>700966028 The constant fear argument is a fallacy. I have guns because I want to and I can. I carry because I can. I'll never have to draw. But I shoot a lot because it's fun and it's a skill worth working on rather than sitting in a dark room glued to a tv or computer. Also I'm not that guy talking about his wife. But in some areas of EVERY country his statement could happen. Even with slight chances it's still a possibility. And in European countries the chances are climbing each day. Dindus typically don't nuffin into a house that they know one or more people inside are likely armed.
>>700966028 Yeah. Have fun getting beheaded on the local street by your friendly Muslims and having your girlfriend raped. Just remember. You, the citizen can't be trusted with guns. The Government however can. Just let big daddy Government protect you. They've done a great job lately... especially in France.
>>700966340 How's Germany's other violent crimes doing? Slapping "gun" before a word doesn't give it magical new meaning. Especially when the heavy firearms regulation was spurred by nonsensical emotion and feelings.
>>700966715 Please provide these magical statistics. Especially the cases where firearms DID prevent the rape. Oh you can't? Because the rape never occurred? Because it was prevented by a firearm? Oh shit. That sucks. So you're working just on the statistics where the rape actually did move forward. The cases where the gun user failed and the rapist prevailed. Oh well that's not skewed data at all. Not I'm btw
>>700966715 Tanks are useless in that kind of situation and drones are in limited supply and can't take out millions of people with the one or two missiles they carry. Also its unlikely that the military would gun down millions of their own citizens even if ordered to. But even if they did try to gun down potentially 10's of millions of resisting people marching together it would still be worth it. True freedom is worth fighting and dying for and without an armed population such resistance is nearly impossible.
>>700966786 I don't live in a gang zone I live in a nice White area so I don't worry much about crime and gun is for personal safety as occasionally you'll run into some thugs or a crazy person. Yeah, its nice to be able to defend myself and handle my own personal safety.
>>700966832 Didn't some Muslims just walk into a church there a behead a preacher? Would have been nice if they had guns and could have killed him instead of just cowering as the mans head rolled onto the floor.
>>700967209 That is a dumb and flawed statistic. Show me the one that says that your more likely to die by home intruder if armed and we might talk oh and make sure minority areas aren't skewing the results as they often do.
>>700948775 >liberalism and self loathing makes my asspussy wet >lowered wages and quality of living makes my asspussy wet >I like being a lubed goat for Mohammed >Santa says there will be peace in the ME and being submissive and paying for and building Mohammed things will change Islamic tradition of savage murderous destruction refined as practiced over several thousand years >I miss the tooth fairy
>>700967303 >Didn't some Muslims just walk into a church there a behead a preacher? >Would have been nice if they had guns and could have killed him instead of just cowering as the mans head rolled onto the floor.
>>700967461 >carry a gun on your hip >crazy Muslim enters your church and starts lining up the preacher for beheading >whip out my gun and shoot him dead in 0.8 seconds >everyone pats me on the back >im a hero >preacher gos home to his family
>>700967880 >>700967461 In my church there are anywhere between 2-3 guns loaded and ready to go. Other churches in my area have more. I go to a small church. I've seen deadly force used in a church. A guy bashed another guy's head with a big rock. If a group came into our church to behead someone they would at best be dealt with quickly and at worst be leaving in fewer numbers
>>700967880 ok well here is another argument I don't believe in big Governments telling people what they can or cannot do I think people should rule themselves if the people collectively agree to ban guns then so be it if the people collectrively want to keep gun rights then so be it The Government though (a small group of people elected to serve and represent the masses) doesn't have the right to limit or ban gun rights without the consent of the people. Thats my opinion. respect it or don't I have to go now peace
>>700966414 Thankyou for being honest anon. I hate hearing about this "protect muhself from the government" bullshit. Guns are fucking cool. I'd have one if they were legal were i am, BUT i'm glad they're illegal and would not like the thought of everyone walking round armed to the teeth 24/7
>>700968296 See>>700966965 The statistic you seek doesn't exist because it doesn't exist. Those cases are breaking and entering cases and not attempted rape cases as they were stopped before progressing. And yes. The ones that did progress but we're still stopped are dwarfed by the statistics of the person that had a gun but were unable to stop it or get to their gun in time. But the other unprovable figure is more common and frequent.
>>700968594 >of course your people should decide. Glad we agree on that. The problem is in the case of gun rights being restricted here or being badly restricted/removed entirely in many European countries in the past the Government usually doesn't worry about what the people think. And removing such a right without the consent of the people is undemocratic and tyrannical. That isn't freedom and freedom is good. Also I don't believe the people in say the US lobbying for less gun rights are doing it for noble reasons. When Governments limit or remove gun rights its usually so they can concentrate power and reduce the chance of resistance to their tryanny not to actually save lives.
>>700968636 Think that's a bit extreme mate. Can't start saying Europeans live in tyranny beacuse guns are illegal lol. If you start saying people should do whatever the fuck they want then you'd have a bunch of ferrel humans running around raping and killing each other. Pretty much sandniggers
>>700968500 Works fine here. Everyone I know carries. I'd say a good 12.5% of the people you'd see in my community are packing and you would never know by looking. And on that note my county had a grand total of 2 murders worthy of being in the news last year
>>700968939 Exactly. They don't care about saving lives. It's a power grab. If they cared about saving lives they'd focus on mental health and gang ridden communities. Not us 90 million law abiding citizens that haven't killed anyone unnecessarily.
>>700968940 That is what tyranny is though. The Government ruling rather then representing the people. I mean I myself believe that my Government is pretty tyrannical. Governments throughout history always tend to grow and head in that direction which is something the founding fathers warned of and said clearly that armed revolution would be needed from time to time to restore liberty.
And in regards to Europe you have people being arrested now for "Islamaphobia" or hate speech. That is fucking brutal losing your free speech and basically getting jailed if you don't obey the Governments narrative and think the way they want you too. Not to mention the disastrous immigration policies of mass muslim migration that is handled terribly and is probably not wanted by most of the people. That is being forced on Europe against the will of the people when it could obviously be prevented.
>>700948234 >they agree to it. >it dsnt make it just. Your talking about business on a nation wide scale, its allways going to fuck the common man over. Also yes since they agree to it they have no one to blame themselves. You sound like a nigger thats too lazy to get a job or education even though theres far more financial assistance for blacks and yet you blame everyone else but yourself. Good luck with that.
>>700969228 As an American I find it funny as shit. They come on here, make countless anti America threads and it's hilarious when one of their own is currently in a legal battle that if handled incorrectly could land him sitting in a foreign prison for calling a guy a goat fucker. Then they want to say "well we still have freedom of speech". No you fucking don't. Not even close. You think if I called someone a bad name on tv that I would be in trouble? Shit no. He could be standing in the street and I could call him a goat fucker to his face and I wouldn't get so much as a "watch your mouth"
>>700969789 You serious lol. Your cops can't even shoot a nig that's robbed a store without there being an epic chimpout and your streets looted, police shot etc and at the end of it your politicans give public speeches excusing them of their behaviour. Your minorities shit all over you daily you are by far the most fucked and you can't even see it. At least Europeans acknowledge their problems you're so brainwashed you think your somehow on top lmao
>>700970267 Our Government is pretty bad and tyrannical but it seems most of Europe is for now still worse. I actually always loved Europe so I don't wish you ill. I wish we all had back what we lost. Things could be so much better then they are if we weren't all being ruled by evil, greedy selfish fucks and lived in a more free and fair society. Still I suppose its always the normal trend for power to concentrate and for those type of people to gain control. Fuck it, just gotta live and make the best of it but at the same time try to remember how things should be and what is truly right.
>>700970001 You can slap -ist to the end of any word to make up an oppressive word for anyone you don't like. People should be taught to turn the other cheek and man the fuck up instead of crying to nanny govt about someone being raaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyssssiissssss
In response to the burkini ban >France is decaying. wft dude. they'd better look to bring back they're economy. nationalistic scumbags >nationalistic scumbags she might as well take a dump on her grandfathers war grave.
>>700972727 Do you mean socialism? Communism is just a huge Government ruling the people and running most shit. Governments are terrible at running shits. There is only one system that works.
-Small Government -No big banks -Decentralized power that is well controlled by the actual people on a fairly local level throughout the country -Free market capitalism with little Government regulation -Very little taxes and just for the very few things that Government should perhaps handle like policing, roads and maybe monitoring air quality or some shit
>>700973680 Not him but I agreed to the wage with my employer. I'm not mad if my boss makes more than me. But what you're proposing would take the majority of what I earn to benefit those too lazy to work. And that's where it becomes a problem.
>>700973680 >enjoy your child labour, 100 hour workweek and 0 holidays How many examples of truly FMC have we seen in our species history? America probably came the closest in the distant past and it worked out pretty well for it without the awful conditions you described. In a truly free market their are forces at play which raise wages naturally.
>>700946770 >Someone not related to EU be retard >Must leave EU
You're just like old brit fags who voted for brexit, fishers and farmers who can't even write their names. Europe would be a much better place if we sent someone like you in Siria every time a sirian gets in.
>>700974941 Haha. No we can sustain just fine if we're not giving the other people anything. If we didn't know the other people even existed there wouldn't be a problem. It's knowing them and them knowing us and them constantly having a bad case of the "gibsmedats" that will destroy everything.
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