Paramedic/Firefighter here. I know a lot of people just generally hate fat people for no reason other than "they're gross". So I felt like I would tell you about my day and the reasons I hate fat people.
>they make my job harder x1000
>they're always assholes
>we always have to call backup to lift these blobs
>they're frequent fliers
>it's imfuckingpossible to find veins and all sorts of crucial shit
>it's not really worth our time to try and save some 500lb fuck whose just going to die tomorrow anyway
If you're a fat person, please fucking please start working out or eating right or anything. I guarantee if you were to go into full cardiac arrest right now and paramedics were to show up, they'd probably not give you their 100% of effort. You're just not worth our time and I know for certain I don't give 100% when i'm trying to help a person who doesn't even try to help themselves.
You think we're going to work as hard on you as that 10 year old kid, or that 43 year old father of 3 who needed us? Hell no. I fucking hate fat people.
I worked with a paramedic student and he said pretty much the same thing.
Though, he had to work as an intern in an asylum for a few weeks and he said he'd rather deal with fat people than the asylum patients.
Like, most eloquent example he gave was that the day before he started his internship, another intern got stabbed with a needle by a patient.
Oh, I started to write out what happened but deleted it all after I read it, i'm bad at greentext
>fat fucker codes
>13 people in a 12x12 room
>reeks of shit
>barely get the fucker back
>now we have to lift it out of here
>ended up getting 4 additional crews of firefighters
>that's now 24 people dispatched to help 1 stupid fucker
>cutting open doorways to get him out
>fucking sucked the whole time
Luckily I drive the ambulance and my partner gets in the back, because he was pressed up between his fat falling over the stretcher and the wall of the ambulance for 30 minutes while we rode in.
>Paramedic/Firefighter here. I know a lot of people just generally hate fat people for no reason other than "they're gross". So I felt like I would tell you about my day and the reasons I hate fat people.
Their only use is burning their bodies for fuel. If you are 100 lbs overweight for a year, die and be fuel or fertilizer.
Bariatric - fat person
pts are patient transports
We have to use reeves sleeves and megamovers instead of backboards because they're so fucking massive and take so many people to lift.
I WANT TO HEAR MORE FAT PEOPLE STORIES. GREEN TEXT EVERY STORY YOU FAGS GOT.
Do you need to go through a lot of EMT training to be a firefighter? Being a Firefighter is something I've always been interested in but the EMT/Medical part is a major turnoff
its not far fetched for a FF/medic to be on /b/ but anyone with a little medical knowledge knows what i mean. basically its really bad fat people stink and they complain and just are depressing.
I feel like you care a little too much that people come on 4chan and tell lies.
I mean, seriously why does it matter. I'll fap to fake incest stories and I'll laugh at fake burning fat people. Who fucking cares.
More shitty greentext stories from op
>be in station fucking around on overnight 12 hour
>pager goes off
>arrive on scene of 3 car collision
>minor injuries nothing serious on 2 of the cars
>get to last car
>"HELP ME YOU STUPID FUCKERS"
>fatass is pinned
>car is barely damaged
>dash is barely on his knees
>we cut the car to do a dash lift
>had to lift the dash
>he spills on the pavement
No literally spills, like he changes shape between freefall and when gravity brings him back to reality, it was like watching a golfball in slowmotion
>cries like a little bitch
>we nicknamed that guy flubber
>you must care too much
>I don't care but obviously you do
Nah. Your little story I'm sure you spent nights sweating over was so garbage I couldn't help but point out the obvious.
>I love how people on this site take offence at fat hate but everything else is fine. Fuck you, fat lazy wastes of space, you take too much food and you do too little.
I swear /b/ is responsible for 3.5% of Hot Pocket sales.
the fact that you chose this profession and you freely admit to not giving certain people 100% makes you a scum bag.
i hope your mother gets abused in a shitty nursing home cuz its all you could afford.
That's not my experience with mental patients at all. Most people, even the really really fucked up ones, don't try to hurt others. They're mostly a danger to themselves.
When they do get too excited they're strapped down and medicated until they're safe again. Neither a calm patient nor a patient strapped to a bed is dangerous.
Do you have the same disdain for self inflicted health issues in other people such as smoking and drug usage? Or do you just preserve your abuse of power and unprofressionalism for fat people?
Psychiatric are a close 2nd for least favorite calls.
>lady smokes crack in mcdonalds bathroom
>goes crazy and hits her head on sink
>blood and shit all over this bathroom
>do it all over again tomorrow
First off, the point of language is to convey a message. If I use shitty spelling or grammar, but you still understand what I said, the post did its job.
This is 4chan, not a fucking job application, who gives a shit if you can't write flawlessly?
Not that guy by the way.
My job is to save lives, those people don't have lives. Most of /b/ doesn't have lives, but at least if they're moderately healthy, they're at least moderately valuable to society as a functioning human being. Almost all of these fat fucks is on disability because apparently being 350lbs is a disability now. Just put them in prison, restrict their diets, make them exercise, and let them go when they're not morbidly disgusting anymore.
So you judge who to give care to based on the merits of their lives? Judged by you.
Quite the power trip you've got going there skippy. Don't get me wrong, I'd probably be doing that as well if I worked such a shitty job.
It depends. Some drug users are absolute degenerates.
>frequent fliers house
>walk in bathroom
>druggy is butt naked
>head in trash can
>covered in ice
>needle half sticking out of his arm still
Apparently his "friend" who ditched the scene after discovering him passed out and basically dead, threw ice on him because he heard that would help him wake up faster.
He can't make a post without greentexting, he's literally incapable of turning off the snark. It's how he copes with the fact he literally goes on the internet to accuse people of lying.
Really a waste of effort, honestly.
There is a guy in my extended family that I met once or twice at family events and he needed an ambulance a few years ago. Made the news because the paramedics had to fucking cut out part of his wall and remove a window to get the fucking whale of a fucking blob out of there...
Also not that guy.
I don't know anyone here.
So I'm going to judge the worth of your opinion
on the only thing I can see - how well you can express it.
If you type like a juvenile, I'll assume that's your intellect.
Trust me I pound on their chest and run lines and do everything the book and years of training and experience I have tell me to do, but I don't do it with the same gusto that I would do for that 3 year old kid whose parents love dearly and are screaming in my ear to help save.
These fat people don't even have families that want them to survive, they're always embarrassed to acknowledge any relation to these wastes of air and resources.
fuck off you ungreatful worm, all you can think about is edgy comments cooked up in that PC progressive fucked up brain, Imagine what EMS workers have to see, dead babies n shit, fuck and your upset cause he's make's a wise crack at some fat cunt.
go out side and see the world for what it is
The last mentioned reason is the dumbest shit I've ever heard. You don't know what said fat person is doing with their life. Maybe they're a physicist just about to create an energistical revolution, maybe they are a biologist just about to cure cancer.
OP, you're either a liar or a retard.
In his case, though, he was more making a point that even though you correct the first guys grammar, you yourself were also incapable of forming grammatically correct sentences. So it was less about correcting you and more about pointing out your hypocrisy.
Firefighters do the cutting. And we roll our eyes and bitch and moan the whole time because we all fucking hate it. But then we laugh about it and say "remember that call with the guy we had to cut out of his home and then get a crane to lift"?
So at least we get fond memories out of these awful experiences with these awful people.
We just don't like having to waste our time on people who really do not need our help. Drunks are common, they're just always assholes and puke in our truck and they're mostly homeless losers. We keep them stable and they become the hospitals problem. We'll obviously work hard to save them if they have a sudden cardiac arrest, it's just that fat people are so much more work and it's a logistical nightmare. By the time we get a fat person stable and transported we've probably gone through 5 or 6 tanks of o2 which requires us to call multiple ambulances or district chiefs to stock us up.
No way, physicians kill more people than they save. We're the ones who save lives. All you do is take guesses as to what's wrong with people and 20% of the time you fucking kill them and another 20% of the time you misdiagnose them and they never get better.
doesnt it ever occur to you that we hate ourselves just as much as you? fat people know how niggers feel to be hated by society but its worse cause we hate ourselves just as much
>Maybe they're a physicist just about to create an energistical revolution, maybe they are a biologist just about to cure cancer.
Nobody with that many mobility problems is ever going to do anything remotely productive. Go find me a 400+lb physicist or doctor or scientist, or fuck it, find me a 400+lb person with a fucking job. Disabled starts at 350, that's where they all cash in and say "OBAMA GONNA PAY FOR MY GLANDULAR PROBLEMS"
The difference is we choose to be fat, niggers don't choose to be niggers. Also niggers definitely hate themselves for being niggers, it's just a hate that's buried deeper in the psyche.
This was harsh but there's something real in the sentiment. OP you should give everyone your all. Yeah they make your job tougher but your job isn't supposed to be easy. Work is work, so work for fuck's sake. Come on /b/ and bitch if you need to but when you're wearing the uniform you better be giving 100% to everybody or you really don't deserve your job.
Lol you must work in a cushy facility. Try working somewhere where people are attacked on a daily basis and there isn't enough staff to properly restrain some of the patients.
No, the work amount is the same aside from the fucking transport. CPR, shocking them, placing lines, reading an EKG, pushing drugs. We'll do all the same work, but you'll be damned sure i'll do CPR till I pass out if it's a healthy 10 year old who suddenly arrests and has an entire life ahead of him.
I give them everything i'm supposed to, but not with the same gusto I give to people who stand a better chance at living, leading a productive life, having a positive outcome.
I probably shouldn't have said I don't give my 100% because I do everything i'm supposed to do, I'm not saying I neglect patients or mistreat them or don't fucking care. But some patients I give 130%, I've done CPR with a full team for an hour and a half to try and bring back a kid who fell off a slide. There's no way i'm bringing that same amount of work to this fatass who brought it all on themself
Meanwhile people like me who try to live as healthy as they can because they have real medical disabilities are stuck waiting over two years to even hear if I can get disability.
during this time I could not seek even temporary employment for fear of it hurting my disability claim. I have had to live off of loans so now if my claim is denied I am basically screwed because I am too disabled to ever hold a job long enough to pay them off.
for those curious I have Multiple Sclerosis, as well as some other health issues.
When I was diagnosed I kept working as long as I my body would let me and now I get to sit and watch the fat asses at the Social Security office get easy disability because they fucked up the healthy body they started with. it is so disappointing.
>Yeah dude you heard that 100% of people who go to physicians die?
I didn't say 100% I said you kill more people than you save. Through malpractice, misdiagnosis, infections from hospitalization, etc. etc.
You send people home stable, absolutely, but for every one of those who you actually give a 2nd chance to? You probably sent 3 to an early grave unintentionally, just because your job is 100% tests charts and guesswork.
are you sure you're replying to the right person or am I missing something here, if so you're gonna need to help me because I'm lost.
are you an actual assburger? because your level of social comprehension seems low.
You've made a real mess
>You should never need to do cpr till you pass out
I fucking would for some of my patients. There's no way I'm walking away from someones' dead child thinking I could have broken even 1 more bead of sweat to try and make a difference.
Yeah I know all about the fatties that have legitimate illnesses and that's a bitch and all, but 100% of the fatasses whose lives I've saved or whose deaths i've witnessed have been useless fucks with no health conditions that didn't arise from their original obesity issue. Sure, they all have elevated blood pressure, diabetes, typically they're dehydrated because of all the soda they fucking drink, but it's never "Oh yeah that guy that had Cushings"
Good, don't waste excess energy on fat fucks who made their choices when children who never had a shot need that extra help. I know you do your best for everyone but part of doing your best is prioritising your energy, you're making the right call. KFC can stand to lose the business.
I know, but how many people show up on your code blue calls?
We get 10 on a GOOD day. And that's after waiting for everyone to slowly arrive from wherever they were dispatched. And the police don't do a fucking thing, if i turned to the cops and said get in here and push on his chest! they'd just say not my job and walk away.
as a former emt, you will do CPR.. chest compressions and assisted breathing, while using a defibrillator, until you reach the hospital ER.. which will generally be much less than an hour.. for example we had a call with an older male who went into cardiac arrest at the mall.. we did CPR and shocked him til we got to the ER, where they continued our efforts for a short while before giving up... he was DOA .. shit and pissed himself.. it's a messy job.. not for those with a weak stomach.
>threw ice on him because he heard that would help him wake up faster
also which country op? i hope i never have to seek out for your help - you sound like a terrible paramedic and like a horrible person in general.
>mfw I'm a sonographer
>mfw they order STAT lower venous to rule out DVT because "swelling"
>getting all up in that to find the common fem
>the shit that is stuck to the probe after I pull it out of their groin
At least you guys can use forklifts to hoist these greasy lardos. If I'm lucky I'll get a tiny Flip nurse to try to push that pannus up.
>shit and pissed himself..
I've seen 3 out of the maybe 50 cardiac arrests i've been on where the patient DIDN'T void themselves. To be honest, i'd rather do CPR and cardiac arrest routine in a pool of diarrhea than do it for a fat person.
If said EMS workers cant deal with things like that, they should have chosen a different job.
Like policeman accept the risk of being hurt in their application!
Next time be florist or something... what a fuck
please tell me English isn't your first language, because that would be the only thing that would make sense at this point. Either way I'm leaving this thread before I literally lose years of education trying to bring my thought processes down to the level of being able to understand the keyboard diarrhea you're shitting everywhere. Before I go, please know that I'm not trolling you. You seriously need to work on some shit.
Femoral arteries are a biiiitch to find on fatties, and even when they're back you're like "Is that a pulse or is that just the fat moving under my fingers"? Oh god the smell....
I work as a bouncer on the weekends, and if there's an overly intoxicated patron that needs removing maybe myself and one other co-worker will help them outside and into a taxi if necessary.
If said intoxicated patron is a fat fuck, no way are we wasting our manpower to call for others to help move their enormous ass. They're gonna be getting dragged out the door and dumped on the footpath.
No way are we exerting ourselves to take care of you when you couldn't take care of yourself.
I've got a friend with the same problem. MS is hell to deal with, physically and emotionally. It sucks to see these people who could exercise the way you wish you could take the support you need that they don't deserve. Keep your head up guy, at least you're not fat.
Also my cousin with a missing fucking leg had to fight for disability over fat fucks and drug addicts too
The scariest part is that people like op can get into that kind of job.
Those people depend on your help. They are not calling you guys because its funny for them but theyre in need.
If you dont want to help fat people, get another job because this will happen again and again...
OP you are a shame for everybody else taking this profession seriously and do it for a greater good. I hope you die in a fucking fire.
Usually the common femoral vein is the one you can see, because no matter how fat someone is they still have a groin crease. But try going distal outside of a big fat crease and you can't see shit, even with the nice GE machines and the frequency bottomed out. And even if you do find the vein as soon as you try to compress it they're going to yelp and bear down in pain because of their cellulitis, increasing their lower venous pressure to the point that it's non-compressible.
Some people will spend 45 minutes trying to get non-diagnostic pictures and trash their shoulders. I refuse. If there's a pannus hanging down to the knees I'm spending a couple seconds looking to say I tried and then going distal to whatever vessel I can see without tearing my rotator cuff. Fucking docs can order a venogram if they want.
You're are fat fucking idiot, you seriously think people who take such jobs are not human? You're just annoyed that now you know your ham planet ass is not being prioritised over a kids, you still get looked after but you're not first priority- fuck off and have another snack. Or do the job yourself?
Yeah, and did you know that almost all EMS systems in the country have staffing problems? Because not only do we have to deal with horrible, horrible shit like the remains of a car wreck, suicides in creative and gross ways, murders, gunshots, stabbings, car wrecks that can mutilate and disfigure people in the most disturbing ways, not only do we deal with that, we also deal with fat people. Moving of, transport of, livesaving intervention of fat people who cannot be asked to lose weight because that makes me a "shitlord" and a bigot.
Go ahead, tell me why your 600lb life is more valuable than a healthy 25 year olds life. Tell me why we should waste time and energy on you when a mile away there could be someone else having a cardiac arrest, and the next closest ambulance is gonna be 10 minutes away. Tell me why I shouldn't be so upset that you're tying up valuable resources that healthy people could use should they get an emergency?
Fuck your entitlement.
Yes, trips only this weekend
That's such a small percentage of people that I and you have never actually encountered one that legitimately suffers from such conditions. If someone does live with this, then while they're involuntarily a fat fuck, they're also a dumb fuck for drinking to the point where they require the assistance of others while suffering from said condition.
IT'S NEVER A DISABILITY CAUSING THE FATNESS.
IT NEVER IS.
I know those exist, I know its a real thing, but you have to understand it's the EXTREME MINORITY of the population of fatasses. 99% of them, and in my experience 100% of them are only in that state because of their own negligence.
what a waste of trips... such a shame
i am not fat man. just think that for a social job youre absolutely wrong if you make differences between the people who need your help.
you dont even make good arguments - you are just disgusted and that does not justify your behaviour. grow up
How about thin but smoking people?
The homeless? The unemployed?
You sound like you make the rational decision not to give 100% to fat people, why would you stop there? If you're gonna go around judging people, at least be consistent.
So much this op
My station has to close down on weekends because of understaffing. THEY CLOSE. DOWN. THE AMBULANCE.
So please, EMS teams are almost always hiring if you want to take the relatively short training.
>Fuck your entitlement.
But you feel entitled enough to decide who deserves help and who not? What kind of logic are runnin there?
And again i am not fat.. i guess i could loose one or another pound but just because someone calls you out the idiot you are doesnt make them fat.
You have a few good points but theyre worth shit if you think you are the one who decides who dies and who lives.
Smokers are easy to transport, we put an airway in them, help them breathe o2, and drive their wheezy ass to the hospital. No problem.
Homeless are generally gross and drunk and rude as fucking hell, but their conditions are almost always serious. So we treat and deliver. Doesn't take that much work for either of them. And if they arrest? We do the same fucking work! It's not very hard when they're not over 300lbs, it's so fucking easy to lift, carry, do CPR, find veins, shock, transport, intubate. They don't make my job harder, just grosser/more necessary.
i love how everybody disagreeing is automatically a fatty lol
dat burn... ouch
I don't "decide who lives and dies" I'm not neglecting my patients here, but you can be damned sure after doing compressions, placing a line, and doing all the other routine shit that goes along with a cardiac arrest, i'll give a time of death pretty fucking soon after we've done everything we're supposed to. Can we do more? Maybe, we can definitely keep trying until rigor mortis sets in, but is there any guarantee we'll get them back anyway? No. So I'm not just rolling up, seeing a fatty and saying "oh boy lets do subpar work, who needs to do CPR he's dead already." I'm definitely not doing that. But on a healthy 20 year old I'll not give a time of death until everyone there is sweating and tired and we're almost out of o2 and fluids and drugs.
Not backpeddling at all. Just want to make it clear I don't give a fuck about fatasses, but I'll do my damned job. I hate them. They complicate what is essentially a simple routine to do. And even when we get them back do you think that THIS will be the wakeup call that gets them running every morning? eating right? working out? no. We'll be back in a months time.
Then maybe find a different job you piece of fucking shit. How dare you call yourself a medic when you out less effort into one patient than another because you deem them less important. Fucking cunt
So, disagreeing with you makes someone retarded though, are you normally such as obvious hypocrite? I have never met a single person who stood up for being fat and unhealthy unless they themselves were or a close family member they didn't want to confront was.
thats actually pretty sad
i am not even mad anymore - its just sad that a persons life could be worth less to the so called "helpers" than another persons life.
please tell me you are thinking of changing job.
Haha, do you honestly give every patient the same exact treatment? When was the last time you witnessed a code blue on someone younger than 10 years old? Do you honestly think you gave the exact same amount of effort on every other call as you did on that call? I'll do my best every day, but i'm damned sure not going to beat myself up when we didn't get the fatass back like I would if we lost the 5 year old.
If we were playing spot the butt hurt fatass, I think I would've won just now. Too bad that game isn't very popular, guess everyone wants to just forget that they exist.
I LOVE my job. I dislike some of the people we encounter. I do good at it and have 13 Code Saves. Honestly when a fat person codes now I don't even do it for them anymore. I do it for my own sense of value. Fat fucker lives? I get another number on my baseball card stats.
There are fat EMTs, tons of fat firefighters, and the desk job cops are frequently fat too. But generally speaking they're not these ridiculous 400+lb monsters. They're never so obese that they physically cannot move themselves under their own power like the fatties i'm thinking about.
ANOTHER REASON TO HATE FAT PEOPLE!
The only people who can use their organs are other fatasses. Your heart and liver and kidneys become so saturated with fatty tissue and enlarged that you would kill a patient on the transplant list if you gave them a fat persons' organ.
mfw /b/ is full of fat virgin nerds that Op states that literally hates
how can they discover anything useful if they cant even discover a diet
Some patients require more work than others, but that doesn't mean you put less effort towards caring for them. Your job is to care for and treat those in need in emergent situations. Not to pick and choose who deserves quality care. I wish your employer would hear your opinion on this, or better yet those who gave you a cert. I have never gone into a call thinking "if they die they die oh well".
That person is trusting you with their life and paying a shit load for you to do your job so fucking do it. If you think you can skim by being a lazy medic then maybe your burnt out and should find something else to do with your life.
And before you assume I'm fat and just triggered, in 5'11 200lbs, deadlift 500 for reps, squat 425, bench bear 300. I'm not lazy or fat and I don't complain about doing my job either.
Look man, i understand the health issues a fat person brings with them. You clearly are well informed about the medical conditions said persons are in. And i am happy that there are people out there getting into this job. Not everybody can do it and wants to do it. But i still think youre in the wrong job if there is a kind of people you hate. I dont think it serves aything good to have you in this job.
>I do good at it and have 13 Code Saves. Honestly when a fat person codes now I don't even do it for them anymore. I do it for my own sense of value. Fat fucker lives? I get another number on my baseball card stats.
Paramedic here, me too. I don't even care about the patients, I distance myself. I'm just a mechanic and a driver at this point. I patch up leaks and drive back and forth to the shop. I don't do it for them. I do it because 1 I need the job, 2 I like thinking I can help people 3 I love the numbers. How many lives has anyone in this thread saved? EMTs will always have a number.
>Dat moment you realize you're a cunt.
Find some other job that doesn't require dealing with people that aren't up to your standards, like sheep herder or some shit.
You can't straight up judge his moral code for hating on the fatties. It's like uh..... Cops shooting blacks right? We all know the blacks make problems for us so we shoot em first to make sure they don't. Can't we save a life or two saving other people in an apartment block out rather than dealing with the fatcunt that can't move themself? Rude obnoxious flabby cunts with a "thyyyyrrroooidddd condishun"
mfw everyone inhere are paramedics and mc'donalds employees and im the only lawyer around
You're obviously not an EMT, trust me. We're all jaded because we're all tired of the same shit we see every day. We're not "burnt out" we just immediately know the situation of anything we go to at this point. If you ask ANY of my co-workers thoughts on the job, I guarantee every single one of them hates fat people and has a similar outlook as I do. We're the only people who will do the work, because we're harder than the average person. We've got thicker skin, we've built thicker walls, we've been in the trenches and here you are sitting behind the front lines telling us we're not working hard enough? fuck you. you're a dick.
as an emt, we had special chairs for ppl with 4 handles, so up to four first responders would be involved in carrying their heavy ass.. trying to carry a heavy ass motherfucker is a good way to jack up your back as an EMT.. really gotta be careful.. if you're way overweight, be prepared to wait for reinforcements or heavy equipment to extricate your pathetic ass, because EMT's sure don't get paid enough to throw out their back to carry you themselves.
Join up then, ride an ambulance for a year, no, ride one for 6 months and tell me then what your opinion is. You're so naïve you have no idea what me and my coworkers see every day. The conditions people live in, the ways they (don't) take care of themselves, you really just do not understand.
Find a local community college, take what, 8 weeks for most of the basic programs. That's EMT-B which is basic, you wont be on an ambulance in most locations if that's all you can do. Theres paramedic programs that are a few months mostly, those are how you ride the truck.
Cousin's a firefighter, his wife is an EMT, Three of my friends are Volunteer firemen.
It helps to have medical certification such as EMT, and stay up on it as well.. One of my friends can't hardly do a lot of the calls he gets as a good majority are medical.
Stopped reading after first line. I literally posted my cert. And if y'all don't believe me then whatever fuck off. I learned to treat every patient with the same amount of professionalism and respect that I would want my family to receive in that situation. I became an emt because as a kid I saw paramedics save someone I love and I decided that was what I wanted to do.
Moderately overweight is fine, if 2 people can lift you on a backboard you're all good bro.
My line starts at 350.
>350: Goddamned it, gotta get another crew to help me.
>450: Holy fuck, call the fire department.
>550: Jesus christ, call the national guard
>600+: That's it, i'm out... Dear /b/ this is how my day went
Is he immobile? Can he make his own way to the bathroom?
Narcotics and being a fatcunt are not the same thing. Fatcunts are literally the epitome of a "poor me" victimhood structure.
Unless you were born in a wheelchair, you can walk. If you can walk to the shop and back you're doing it right. If the shop has to make special dispatches to your house because you're eating too many fucking twinkies you are doing it wrong
Yea maybe youre right. But its still so disgsuting for me to think that an emt could be not tryin so hard because the person in need is overweight or fat or whatever. I get you if you say its unhealthy and they didnt take care of themselves in the first place.
But you cant make that decision for them. Even if it would be for the better.
Anyone with half an ounce of self respect doesn't become a fatcunt and moan about it.
I have more respect for those that are apologetic for getting too fat due to a medical condition. Or even just sorry they're fat. It's the proud fatcunts that really fuck me off.
Fuck you you obtuse rotund fatcunt
This is for the US right?
Have to look it up in my country..
Besides all the hate in here and despite i gave op alot too - at the end of the day, i am happy there are guys like you out there!
You can volunteer, just find your nearest volunteer station, typically in the county or in a municipality, and ask what is required. Lots of fun and we always need people. Don't expect to ride the truck straight away unless you live out in the county, cities are a little more corporate and regulated. Counties are "WE GOT A FIRE BOYS, I'LL TAKE THE TRUCK AND YOU GUYS MEET US AT THE FIRE!!"
Fuck this thread is motivating.
I've been gaining steady weight this past year, was 200 now i'm at 250, talked to doctor and found out my fat storage is going crazy (and some doctor shit i diddent understand) so basicly i have to work out to loose weight ;/
dont wanna become a fat fuck but i realy dont care for sports, any if you guys know if karate/some other fiting style could be a good alternative to loose sone pounds?
If it's not i'm all out of idears.
you'd be surprised how little training and how little EMT's actually know.. they are always paired with a paramedic... even paramedics are woefully under trained and lack knowledge.. there is no comparison between a doctor and first responders.. if you knew the training they go through you would have very little confidence in their ability to diagnose your issue correctly, their job is to try to keep you alive til they get you to a hospital / real doctor.. and they are barely able to do that frequently.. coming from an EMT, who respects what emt's / paramedics / firefighters / first responders do...
It's not like i'm not doing my job ok. I'm doing everything i'm supposed to, but I will absolutely not beat myself to death working to save that fat guy. I'll tire out and work endlessly on someone young and healthy or on a child. I've never been as tired as I am when a child has a cardiac arrest. I'll have my whole crew stay for 2 hours working to try and get that one back. But the fat guy will get the routine and 30 minutes maybe less before we call it quits and walk away. We'll give a healthy adult maybe an hour.
>called into home with possible drowning
>firemen at the scene
>like 100 college kids around the place
>everyone loud as shit with phones recording
>turns out a fat chick got pushed into the pool
>didn't know how to swim
>somehow managed to drown itself
>she fat as hell
>not dead though, just too tired to move
>firemen are trying to harpoon her
>she won't grab the rope
>firemen turn into watermen and push it to the shore
>too fat, can't get her out
>wet clothes make it even worse
>took a construction crane to get her out
Former operating department nurse here - hauling unconscious landwhales and manblobs around to lift and postion on operating tables destroyed my lower back - lots of jobs and activities I can't do now. Thanks fat cunts.
Back in the day they would be forced to lose MAJOR weight before they would receive non-urgent operative procedures - joy of a national health service. Many procedures are simply impossible with lard behemoths, and fitter patients would always receive higher priority and better care.
NO ONE cares about you fat-asses - since you clearly don't care yourself.
tl;dr - kill yourself fat fucks.
>if you knew the training they go through you would have very little confidence in their ability to diagnose your issue correctly, their job is to try to keep you alive til they get you to a hospital / real doctor.. and they are barely able to do that frequently..
Yeah this is true. But we have a play book that we follow, we're not there to diagnose and treat someones medical condition, we're just there to get him to you guys. Our best work is when we're on the scene of a motor vehicle accident or any sort of trauma. That's where we're the stars of the show. When we bring them to the hospital with time to spare in the golden hour we've done a good fucking job even if all we did was stabilize, bandage, and drive.
Ok. So you hate fat people because they make your work harder. Fair enough. I admit to having prejudice myself. I cant stand imigrants, for one.
But the rest is just sad.
You say that you're not going to do your best unless its easy and you like the person you're helping. Thats awful, coming from a paramedic.
All real paramedics know that many of the people they act as a taxi-service for are "frequent fliers". The chronics, the addicts and the elderly, neither of which are likely to live long regardless of what you do.
That darling 90-year old granny whos life you helped save when she broke her hip or had a heart-attack? The ice-cold truth is that if she's alive in a month from now, she's an exception. Yeah, she'll survive the emergency if she gets to a hospital. She wont survive the healing-process.
Medical care is not about the long term, its about today. Today you could save a life, but by your own admission you're not trying. You're a disgrace.
Ever send them to the zoo to get an MRI? Those transports were my fucking favorite.
"Hey buddy know where we're going?"
"Because i'm too big to fit in the normal machine."
are the chances on a healthy and young person different to a fat person in the case of a cardiac arrest? i honestly dont know.. and does it even matter if you still try 30 mins extra? was there any success after you would quit usually?
this thread made me look what i need to become an emt or paramedic in my country lol
Firefighter / EMT here.. i agree fatties are the worst.. search and rescue is also a nightmare to get out of a structure fire.. vertical extractions also nightmares..
All the people here bitching have no idea what CPR is, and I'm sure have never been bent over a sweaty greasy soiled motherfucker..
Oh and for the guy that said that you can't give CPR for an hour.. our M.O. is that we can't legally move someone in cardiac arrest till we get a heartbeat back, so yeah, CPR for hours is a real possibility while we push epis & other shit..
Mostly no. Once someone is dead, they're dead. But occasionally you'll get a miracle crew that basically bring back a zombie after an hour of work. Everyone's always like "I swear to god I was just about to call it" but it's a seldom occurrence. But we don't give up if we think they're viable, or if they're young and it's a tragedy.
yupp.. at least we learn how to stabilize traumatic injuries, fractures.. how to arrest bleeding, etc.. it's just an attempt to keep the patient alive until the doctors and diagnostic infrastructure can really figure out what's going on... we are taught a system for assessing a patients condition, but it's far from exact.
I understand you.. people that are fat as fuck and people that don't try to save lives for a living have zero idea the fuck they are talking about, and should stfu and be grateful that we even take the time to save the life of someone who obviously doesn't give a rat's ass about theirs
Holy shit i've never had to worry about a fatty in a structure fire, that's a terrifying thought, losing a search team because they found a fatty and sent 6 people in there to try and bring him out... Oh my god that's like my worst nightmare now...
It's just not something civilians think of. It's not only that they're disgusting in and of themselves, it's like they're actively fighting against us doing our jobs. Finding veins? Impossible. Transport? A fucking nightmare. Hygiene? God awful. There's just so much uncomplicated stuff that becomes super complicated and difficult when you're dealing with these people. And I really don't think it's worth as much effort as it takes. They need someone to step in and force them to change their habits.
Well the District Chief has to be on scene, but he just does oversight so whoever's working the crew decides to call it quits, looks over to the DC for the acknowledging nod or until he says "ok stop" but basically the working crew gets the feel for it and knows when it's over. DC's just the one who makes it official.
not the OP, but where I'm at.. the Doc on call has to call it, but we can basically tell him more or less when we've done all we can.. so while we can't legally call it, we can definitely influence it
Ok. So you've backpedaled from the evil shit you said at first. Miscommunication. Ok.
So, what remains is pretty much:
1 - You dont like fat people.
2 - They make your work harder.
Well i get where you coming from.
But i guess their thoughts arent like: Quickly hide this vein under my fat before the medic finds it hahaaa!
But i understand you much better now anyway. And youre right civilians dont think about that...
Morbidly obese shitsacks love to play the victim card, but they are just lazy adult-children with Zero self-discipline.
Fact is that like junkies, alcies and smokers they're a GIANT burden on society - useless fat leeches contributing nothing.
From a health service POV, they are 100% guaranteed to receive less care, partly because EVERYONE hates them, but mainly because a lot of procdeures are either technically impossible or a clear and obvious waste of resources.
No-one officially admits to the latter, but trust me, it's how things are.
3 - I also think they should either change their ways by forcible intervention or die if they can't comply. But that's unrelated. They really should be forced to fat camp and until they get down to X weight they cannot leave. Just prison for fatties. They're really not something civil society should have to tolerate and then pay for unless it's toward the goal of changing the outcome. Unlike paying disability to let them continue their lifestyle.
Yeah, no, they're not intentionally doing anything to make our jobs harder, it's in their interest for us to do our work, but it's super fucking difficult. The number of times i've missed veins on a fat guy embarrasses me because that's basic medical care, veins are easy to find, but they look like a damned pin cushion because they're so hard to find.
Smokers are not nearly as big a problem, sure they're a burden on the healthcare system, but that's because there's so many more of them than whales. At least with smokers there's a whole generation of them who are already riddled with health problems due to age, this generations smoker is the fat person.