Ive realized that /b/ is the only place on the Internet where everyone is equal. Everybody gets shit. You're either a faggot,cuck,white knight,whore,slut,bitch,cunt,dyke,spic,nigger,sand nigger,redneck,chink,eurofag,amerifat, the list goes on and on.
I hate elitist teenagers that think just because they go to college for four years and subscribe to their retarded teacher's way of thinking, they know the real world, they care about real people. Meanwhile, they don't do shit to help the communities the come from, the communities they come from, or the communities they go to college at. This is foolishness combined with teenage anxiety. Fuck the elitist sjws.
she is ugly. looks like a fugging trap
tattoos automatically lower your social standing. I suppose the goal is to lower your social standing so you attract bums and junkies better?
not the anon you reffered to but he is right
tattos are disgusting flaws that humans force on themselfs in thier name of so called "art"
it is bullshit and ugly
look at a granny full of tattoos and tell me if you want her to be your granny that makes you nuggies
>tfw you're actually attracted to chicks who look like this but the moment they open their mouths you die on the inside
>look at a granny full of tattoos and tell me if you want her to be your granny that makes you nuggies
Don't give a fuck if my grandma looks like a festering anus if those nuggies are on point.
Check out videos and posts on some shit site revelist.com
It's honestly rage inducing
Yeah for the most part you have to be better than your girlfriend (up til maybe 30) but even unattractive, unambitious guys get girlfriends.
I mean really, if you believe this shit you're pathetic. All you have to do is have something going for yourself, be it looks, money, success, talent. Just one thing.
You like living with less than $20k a year? I'm in a government manager position
First thing I check is social media of my applicants, I look for drug use, anything illegal and tats. Any of those three and you're not getting my job
I'm part of hr and oversee hiring and firing for the city I live in. It's a liberal college town too. Tattoos are seen as unprofessional and immature. You can't make rational decisions. If you can hide your sleeves in interviews do it.
You might more agree with this logic but think of it this way.
> You have a huge graduating population flooding the market with college grads with no career experience.
You might have job experience but it's not in the field you just graduated in
> with nothing to make you stand out on paper it comes down to who looks the most qualified.
In your case are we going to choose the engineer with sleeves or the one without tats?
Doubtful. If that ever slipped, you'd lose your ass in labor court. Tattoos are not an objective criteria to exclude, and are unaffected by KSAs. Easy to prove that's discrimination.
>Looks the most qualified
Considering STEM is filled with introverts, I think the guy with tattoos probably has more confidence and carries himself in said way.
But a city job might have different regulations, but it sounds more like you're talking about personal taste and your own bias instead of company rules.
You'd never be able to prove it. I still call the most qualified person in to interview. But if I don't like you in my interview I'm not going to hire you. And I'm probably not going to like you if you're black,a hipster, or have tattoos
I'm government, as long as I leave a simple paper trail following protocols I'm untouchable
>I'm probably not going to like you if you're black,a hipster, or have tattoos
Your own bias and open discrimination isn't how most of the world works, man.
In no way am I saying that discrimination doesn't happen, but you're just one example of someone with bias. The exception, not the rule.
Government rules, not company rules.
But as a city employee I need someone that will act professional at all times, even with a bitch civilian that thinks they own me. Judgement calls come into play. It's my judgement that counts at this place
This is totally correct. I work in the private sector, and it's the same thing. Tattoos might be alright on the lower levels, you're welcome to forklift our shit around the warehouse. But you don't stand a chance higher up if you've got fucking ink coming up your collar. That's just how it is, deal with it.
Prejudice = prejudging
Judging based on limited information in order to save time
It's rational and sensible. I'd expect most people doing hiring decisions would have to exhibit some prejudice only to get by
Fooling yourself into believing a person is incapable of doing a job because of your own pre-defined beliefs is not sensible, as you have already come to a conclusion before they have shown their competency.
You have to come to a conclusion before they show their competency. Acquiring more information takes time which isn't always worth it.
It's not irrational to be prejudiced per se.
It's like if you had to choose 10 people on the street randomly to be on your basketball team, you would choose niggers
Discrimination is not per se unlawful. Only discrimination on certain bases is unlawful (race, religion, age, gender, etc.) I can absolutely discriminate against people with tattoos in hiring, just like you can discriminate against morons in hiring
I'm not saying you can't discriminate, just that morally you shouldn't and consciously doing it shows your own piss poor decision making skills. In itself it shows a lack of intelligence on your part.
No, why would you think that?
Everything can be taken to court, that doesn't mean it'll win. In no way am I saying that, but if I feel I am being discriminated against in PC America I can absolutely kick and scream til I get my way.
I mean, think of it this way.
You whole job is to hire someone that is best for the job. Instead of doing that you refuse to give the person a job because of their own choices regarding their body. So when it comes down to it, you can't even do your own job right.
>morally you shouldn't
Fuck off you dumb liberal. You don't deserve anything from companies. They'll hire the best person they can find.
And it's rational often to discriminate. You might as well just throw all the niggers named Shaquin in the trash to begin with for any good job. Same with anyone who has tats. Unless you got a lot of patience
Well now all you're saying is it's a hiring policy you disagree with, as opposed to whether it's legal. I don't know whether it's bad to have a no tattoos hiring policy, maybe you're right
If it's a policy because of company reasons that is one thing, personal discrimination is another.
What it boils down to is if you aren't hiring a person based on them being the best person to hire you aren't doing your job competently (assuming your company wants you to hire someone based on their competency)
>my life is slightly a joke
I don't see it that way. I see it as they want to stay in a lower class bracket by looking low class. And this whole" I can look and act like I want just give me money" doesn't work in the real world job market.
This my buddy whos all tatted up completely changed his life and now hes a nig whos the CEO of his own company making vidya. In professional circles he covers as best he can but when were in the studio its like home kinda so were chill about it
China especially hates niggers. They want to be as white as possible.
Japan has historically been pretty infatuated with white people, although a lot of that has to do with post-WW2 Japan (white people beat them, but helped them become even better than they were - sort of like a phoenix rising from the ashes)
Places like Vietnam historically hate "outsiders," although it's mainly because of conquests from people like the Chinese
India hates niggers. Even motherfucking Ghandi talked about how much he hated the "kaffirs" - another version of "niggers"
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
But we all know this is happening all over the US.
>...or maybe we just don't want to work with or be associated with someone who has tattoos that can't easily be hidden.
If that is your company's policy that is something else. If you are coming to that conclusion on your own then when it comes down to it is (though you might hide it) you are incompetent in your chosen profession. You aren't hiring for a person's ability to do a job, you are not hiring based on your own reasons that aren't defined by the company. That is why it's called discrimination, man.
Liberal arts campus fucks who can read a book, pick out any fucking random thing, take that random thing, make it a metaphor and then JACKPOT Texas sharpshooter fallacy the shit out of a million other people, except they aren't using legitimate sources to paint the bullseye, it's a fucking circle-jerk of BULLSHIT. GOD DAMNIT
in all seriousness, i bet 90% of the fucked up freaks out there didn't have parents involved in their lives growing up
>9% probably had really fucking shitty parents
In any customer facing position the tattoos are going to affect that person's ability to "do their job." And I think you know this. Plus I would have questions about that person's character; which again bears on their ability to do their job. I get what you're saying, stereotyping makes you miss details and it's not ideal, but I think it's legitimate here
Also did I mention that
>it is unclear if she will have custody of children she may have in the future
Totally a grey area, right? FUCKING RIGHT?
As far as circles go yeah for anyone who really knows him but as a company it was hard getting funding at first because he came off as a scarry nignog. But it was his life and it was pretty intense but shits moving along now as we are making 3 new IPs and branching into other mediums for one of them
It's not about the woman, it's about the symbolism behind the image. It's arguably the most iconic feminist propaganda image showing the "strong woman", while in reality it's as much of a joke as the whole movement.
Maybe you're just a deluded hr bitch who thinks he knows what makes a good employee.
i don't even have tattoos, and i think this is retarded.
ok, but there were a lot of women who stayed in the factories and did a good job. The propaganda was meant to convince more women to work for the war effort. It wasn't a pat on the back for what they had done so far. You're getting triggered by something you don't totally understand.
Do you even ww2?
That's because you've never had to carry the responsibility, directly or indirectly, to maintain a public face for an org.
I want you to sell printers. I don't want you to bait customers into arguments about how the normals are oppressing you until you scare them out of the store. You can do that with your dad, just not from 9 to 5.
I see it as, you're a person who has an idea of how something should be done in a perfect world arguing with someone who does said action for a living, in the real world.
Look man, I love tattoos, I've spent thousands on them, but if you think the people in charge don't look at it this way, you're being delusional. He said he still hires whomever is the most qualified on paper, but you would be surprised how many people are similarly qualified applying for the same job. That's when appearance wins. Why put yourself at a disadvantage?
If a guy did that He'd be in prison for years. Tried to find a similar case with a man, but could only find a raped and killed case. 20 guys raped the rapist when he went to prison by the way
Well, soft skills are important. You can draw conclusions of someones soft skills by looking at his life choices. Getting a tattoo is a life choice. The position of the tattoo also tells you a lot. I wouldn't hire a fatty for a job that requires ambition and I wouldn't hire a tat faced hipster for a job that requires good judgement.
i was in the military. i spent most of my waking life for 6 years maintaining a public face for an organization. I've also worked in customer service. I understand what it's like, and people don't care as much about tattoos as you think they do. in fact, more people care about you being nice to bull shit with while you get the fucking job done right.
you're just trying to make excuses for the corners you're cutting.
>hr in a nutshell
We know many people have prejudice against people with tattoos, we know that virtually no one has prejudices against people without them. That fact alone makes for important considerations.
You're fucking retarded. I don't know what organization you work for, but with you involved in HR, it will be falling behind its competitors since it seems you are disregarding capable people based on superficial features. You talk about responsibility but you're letting your company down more than anyone else.
I wasn't the guy you were having a convo with and I don't do HR, but I do pick hires.
If your clients are going to be mostly female, I'm going to hire the man. If they're going to be mostly male, I'm going to hire the female.
I'll have functional requirements but on top of that I'm also going to hire the one who looks most attractive in general to the broadest audience. The one with a warm, inoffensive charisma.
I don't need you to interrogate hadjis. I need you to use every edge available to draw positive, memorable attention and not fuck up sales. Your social statements are cute, but out of place here. If it's backoffice then go ahead and put a Tutsi disc in your ear, but otherwise the answer is simply no.
Doesn't hurt at all and I know you're trying to bait but I'll try to explain
I am an engineering major, president of my schools robotics club only due to my social and leadership skills. My ability to communicate, make people like me, and listen and lead, has gotten me pretty far.
So consider my field, engineering is filled with introverted weirdos that can barely hold a conversation. Many have no social life.
My ability to lead, empathize, and charm the pants off people have impacted my life more than my tattoos ever have.
But we are also in different areas, me being in The Silicon Valley.
I am doing pretty all right considering everything, and my end goals sure as hell aren't to be some HR lady, spending day after day grumpy about what other people look like and the niggers this and the niggers that.
In fact, I'd say I'm probably doing better than you are in life.
>like hr apparently
And your customers.
Stop thinking you can social justice your way into forcing people to do business with you. They won't. I don't care if you think local culture is unfair, in a business you are to account for it.
A tattoo is not superficial. It's a choice that was made and (as everyone with a tattoo will always love to tell you) says a lot about the person. It's the perfect opposite of something superficial.
And I've won 20 Nobel Physics prizes.
Yeah, because their choice of skin adornment says so much about their skill at their job. Maybe this is because I'm looking at this from the point of view of a STEM field where you actually have to know how to do shit, unlike HR.
>You'll do even better once you stop taking broad cultural trends as personal attacks.
I'm not. I am saying as an engineer I am not going to be bothered by some nobody HR lady's biased opinion on me.
>Yeah, because their choice of skin adornment says so much about their skill at their job.
You can't even work your way through a conversation with someone investing energy in hearing you out, without derailing into an argument about how you're a victim of the Man.
How the fuck are you going to represent anything to the general population?
So you admit that you don't know what you are talking about and back paddle to the point that you don't have to make a counter argument to the facts that tattoos can actually influence how well somebody is made for a certain position? Case closed, bye.
I'm the hr and I'm not letting anyone down. As far as my boss is concerned (the mayor and city council) I'm doing great at my job. Not to mention that I'm only hr, the division super still has more say in hiring then I do because it's their position to fill. I'm just telling you how the world works. No need to get butt hurt about it
There's a valid reasoning that tats rule you out in some roles. Rather than at least entertaining the functional implications, or the norms in the culture you're doing business in, you assume you're being persecuted and start dishing out ad hominems. This ironically cements earlier assumptions about your maturity.
The fuck are you talking about? First, I'm not the same anon you were talking to, and second, what is this about being a victim? I'm saying you're missing out on good, even great employees for retarded reasons. Anyway, I have work tomorrow (luckily, I don't seem to have HR people at my work place that are as stupid as you) so I'll leave it at that.
None of the people you mentioned sound like they would be qualified to even interview for a STEM job so why are these people even doing the hiring? Anyway, like I said, I'm out.
I hate feminism, but this picture is a piece of shit. Go read the case. There were 2 guys and they basically said to her she couldn't leave if she didn't fuck them.
Thats motherfucking rape you dipshit
>I'm saying you're missing out on good, even great employees for retarded reasons
Oh yeah you're totally not being defensive there
Same goes for you. I'm in engineering too bud, but I'm realistic about staff and roles. I also don't shift the discussion to one about how you're a retard, start shoulderpatting myself like I got Parkinsons, and despite it all deny I'm throwing out ad hominems when a fairly arbitrary modifier makes me less suitable for a job you're planning.
Isn't the whole point of statutory rape to protect kids that don't fully understand the consequences and implications of sexual encounters?
Kind of defeats the purpose when you can say they are liable for whatever comes from it.
Double dubs ten seconds apart
It's not just hr that has biased opinions. And as a general contractor I'm going to ask that you the engineer cover up your tats or just leave my jobsite while the investors are on site. I don't want shit stirring in the middle of the job. And as a general contractor I can tell you what kind of employees are usually covered in tats and how far they move up. But I think you have a pretty good idea of what I'm going to say
Don't do it, bitch is ugly with saggy tits...I can see her I don't give a fuck attitude now. Sounds hot until you're number 37 and her pussy is bombed out along with her brain.
>but do you booboo
150k year engineer, sleeves
if you aren't intelligent then you end up working in government management positions, cruising facebook to make sure people with tats get better jobs
>noone knows how to set the timer on the camera so it's gonna be a selfie
>2 can't decide who's taking the picture
>3 are looking into the phone's screens
>4 are smiling at camera #1
>1 is smiling at camera #2
GO FOR EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET OPIEEEEEEEEEEE
Its your own choice to put the tattoos on your skin, if you are not a good representation for the company you dont have any rights.
Why would you hire blacks?
The dont do any work yet get the same pay.
Well she's an actress, her job is to sit there and read the material she's given
If she wanted to be a bigger influence, she should've been a writer
Also, her acting sucks and she's ugly
In england they can and will lock you up for 24 hours if you are accused of saying something racist
>paying attention to feminists
>feminist hate thread
the true feminist hate thread is to ignore them. theyre given power purely by us giving a single fuck and not just treating them like children
Milk is the biggest scam in this world.
It has terrible nutritional values yet its one of the biggest polluters in this world.
and holy shit, I now have a completely unbiased and major comprehension of S.Africa after the end of apartheid. I will take this shittily thrown together story as fact and tell others of this particular complex period in history as i have learned it from an anonymous anime message board.
>you're a fucking idiot m8
I think this is the same chick. I knew her a long time ago.
>kaffirs are very dirty
>is a POO IN LOO
i have funds, i have the intelligence and knowledge , fucking anxiety and laziness.
>i want to own a sweatshop
i'd fuck every one of them. especially that guy in the back. #prohomo
Blacks are even cruller today, when you look ate violent crimes you see a"higher quality of crime" among higher melanin people.
>russians shat themselves
>be single and alone
one less pretty great sensitive caring women out of this world
Actually, ISIS just wants control of the area. They use brutality as a way to gain more strongholds to fight against Assad, Russia, US, Iraq, and Iran. Beheading is a fear tactic they use to decrease moral and force civilians to submission once they invade a populated area.
Might have something to do with all the slave owners living in the south. I mean, not to generalize, but people who own slaves probably are at least kinda racist.
In America they cal lock you up for 24 hours for doing nothing at all.
Well to be honest, During the peak of slavery only about 1.6% of whites owned slaves.