Alright /b/, Trump or Hillary to win the 2016 election?
Even though I'm a britfag I would 100% choose Trump for the simple reason that I think politics is a mans world and Britain recently got their second woman prime minister (without a vote) after the first one fucked our country up.
>inb4 this should be on /pol/. I'm just curious and I lurk on /b/ the most.
Answer me this, /b/... The majority of us live in states that are foregone conclusions. For example, I live in Texas, which is red. No matter how I vote, Texas will go red. So if I vote R or D, I am wasting my vote.
We all know that the biggest problem with the United States is the fact that it has a two party system. And both parties are as corrupt as they can be. They refuse to work together and they get nothing done but waste our money.
If a third-party gets 5% of the popular vote, then in the next presidential election, they get:
A.) federal election funds (just like R and D already do)
B.) automatic entry into the debates
C.) easier ballot access in all 50 states
So if you live in one of the red or blue states (and you likely do), why would you even THINK of voting for Trump or Hillary?
without question Trump
I lived through the clinton/bush era and it needs to be dismantled
if it makes you feel better, do that
you're a fucking idiot. Enjoy the downfall of Brexit you fucking britfaggot. I wish the world would've given you to Hitler you fucking faggot brit
You're probably a pedophile too anyways
Shhh don't you know half of fucking fucktards here don't believe in climate change? Shit, most of them believe that the Earth is flat.
Bunch of uneducated millennials who got ahold of the interwebs here.
We truly need an asteroid because these fuckers are everywhere
Oh look, I can use charts too Aren't they fun? You can make them prove anything you want to!
That's because man made climate change is a liberal lie based on speculation and not on science.
Scientific facts: ozone depleting substances do deplete the ozone layer, smog has adverse health affects on humans, parabins poison the water table and disrupt food supplies.
Liberal speculation: man made global warming, the whereabouts of Bigfoot and muslims are worth dumping our resources into when we have perfectly retarded niggers to waste money on.
>Not knowing about all those warm periods
Besides, don't see you providing any decent sources. Burden of proof is on you faggot
>be carnivorous faggot
>hurr durr trump is not climate
>eat moar meat
>animals of that meat shit stinking up our world
>cow shit, pig shit
>chicken shit is toxic
I'm concerned about the amount of civil unrest and terrorism that would occur. The guy has alienated the majority of the country sans disenfranchised younger whites and baby boomers. If you think ISIS and BLM are a problem now, wait until this faggot gets into office.
>letting a failing industry fail
So I guess centralised failing banks was great for the economy too in 2008 I guess. The coal industry was running at a net negative of around 1-2 billion
Exactly. Coz meat is tasty n shit.
You cant call yourself an environmentalist if you eat meat.
The downfall of Brexit being what? More housing, jobs, benefit money, NHS appointments and school places due to less immigrants coming over here to freeload off our handout government? Or will the downfall be the £350 million we will save per week as we wont be sending it to the EU to spend on countries such as Greece or Spain who fucked up their own economy? Or maybe the downfall will be not being ruled by faceless politicians who we, as a nation, did not vote for but yet have such a big say in our countries actions.
Seriously just shut the fuck up. You're obviously not British as you call me a britfag so what are you? A butthurt euro cunt that will now suffer because we have pulled out of the EU? Or are you an Ameritard that has absolutely nothing to do with the EU that's just trying to troll? LOL fucking faggot, brexit won, deal with it.
>believing in a flat earth
nigger a fact is a fact, your belief doesn't matter. I could believe that the moon is made of cheese but that wouldn't make it true. Do some scientific research and open your eyes.
sure, lets elect the woman that played a major hand in causing these fucking problems to begin with
because Trump hurt your feelings
get over it
The Founders specifically set up the electoral college to keep large, populous areas from imposing their will upon smaller population centers, FFS, learn about the history and founding of your own country.
Can you shill any harder? This is why we need Trump. There's either some shill (you) making up some retarded pseudo reason of why they think Trump is bad, or some retarded millennial believing that pseudo reason like a little babby. Shills should be burned to ash.
Lets look at the facts here
>Will heavily regulate the Internet
>Controlled by foreign countries, corporations, and Wall Street
>Will give tax breaks and bail out Wall Street
>Constantly showing symptoms of a neurological disorder
>Will let the Clinton Foundation take over the entire US government
>Said mean things
>Was never a politician
The dems have been pushing for war with Russia. If Clinton gets in we will be at war with one of their interest, expect an invasion of Syria. With that in mind Trump all the way. I believe him when he says no nation building. See how the world reacts when the US quits being world police.
1. trump doesnt actually believe any of the wacky things he says. he believes by being racist as fuck he can trick rednecks into voting for him.
2. hillary will win no matter what. she is the only person with any experience actually running. she would have beaten any repub candidate because she has lots of support from lots of big corporations and is rather moderate and pro-business.
3. hillary is very hated. she has been involved in countless scandals, a fraction of which are based in reality. most are right-wing fantasies, but even still she has flip flopped and lied and all that. REGARDLESS, she will be an ok president. she cant be any more mediocre than obama.
4. all other opinions besides these are incorrect.
At least that white male doesn't delete white house emails. Trump isn't just a white male, he's the RIGHT male for the job.
Because then states like New York and California would dominate politics. Candidates would ignore lesser populous states, and you would have a Democrat in office until California secedes
>she has been involved in countless scandals, a fraction of which are based in reality
That's bullshit. The only one I can think of that's questionable is that Bengzi shit. The rest of them are backed up by emails or other documents.
It's a fact that the same kind of areas that are negatively effected by voter ID laws are the same ones that vote Democratic. That's why Republicans are the only ones pushing for voter ID laws - it makes it easier to get re-elected when you cut out opposition votes.
Ohiofag reporting in. Mfw my vote always decides the fate of the free world.
Four more years of boomers. Boomers have been ruling this country for 24 years, and it seems like there's no end in sight. I'm leaving. I've already got a place picked out in Japan.
And the money you will have to continue sending to the EU in order to maintain business relations? What about the regulations your businesses will have to continue to adhere to in order to continue to sell their products to the most cost effective region you have to sell to? How about the fact that your country still accepts immigrants and refugees albeit at a lessened rate. You guys fucked yourselves, and now you're poised to lose Scotland too. Good luck surviving with just Wales and Northern Ireland to support you.
voter id laws give the people running the poll to disenfranchise voters. the lady at the table has all of the power whether someone votes or not, they can simply accuse the id of being fake.
>are you proposing that african-americans and hispanics aren't capable of obtaining ID's?
The Supreme Court of the United States did when they declared unconstitutional photo ID requirements to vote. The verdict was that it places an economic burden, and thereby undue burden, on people trying to exercise their right to vote.
I don't think that word means what you think it means, anon.
>believing everything in the media
If you think you know who's going to vote for whom, then not only are you stupid for believing the mass media at face value, you're also a narcissist who believes you're so smart that you can predict these things. You're not, that's just the narcissism. Trump 2016
The verdict was actually that voter ID laws violate the 24th amendment, which prohibits a poll tax. The reasoning was that having to buy an ID to vote equated to instituting a poll tax.
Trump says mean and outrageous things to get votes. You're saying he's accepting of all people regardless of their sexual preference? Oh no what are we to do. Do you hate gay people because your fucked up sandnigger religion tells you to, or because you're personally an insecure closet homosexual who calls people "faggot" in real life to assert dominance and make up for your severe insecurities?
It's not a conspiracy, dipshit, it's a fact that HRC has people spamming 4chan and other sites with pro-HRC - or in your case, anti-Trump posts, which are the same fucking thing.
I think the bigger concern is that we don't know if he understands the consequences of nukes. He has shown no aptitude for foreign policy and all we have to go on is his business dealing with corporations in other countries. He equates foreign policy with a business deal. What would he think a nuke equates to? Aggressive negotiations?
On the other hand, you're probably right. We've just guessed correctly for 17 of the last 18 elections. Total coincidence.
they keep up the paid shilling
keep rigging the polls
keep photoshopping rally crowds
dems will be in such a lull
this will be Brexit all over again
and we haven't even gotten to the debates yet
>lesser of two evils rhetoric again.
Hillary is such a piece of shit that her own shills admit that she's awful, then paint Trump as worse in their propoganda. You know a candidate is bad when people who are PAID to support her online have nothing to defend her with other than "well the other one is worse". Lazy, worthless shills. Kill yourselves. You can't even do your job you useless scum.
No, it's just hard to believe anybody actually believes, and tries to convince others, that Trump is some kind of modern day Hitler, and the very existence of the human race will cease should he be elected. You're pathetic.
Youre.mixing up the Senate seat and house seat numbers with the electoral college. Electoral college was.meant more to allow representatives to cast votes for the public because they didn't trust an uneducated populous
Thays what I thought you would say, because like I said you're an insecure fuccboi who resorts to calling people "faggot" when you run out of false logic for rhetoric. kys
>speeds off in his 180k car to his new 600k lake house.
>not taken out of context
>when it's taken out of context
Holy shit you shills get lazier every day. You don't have the work ethic to be a walmart greeter. Is Hillary's campaign so desperate for shills that they'll hire any retard off the street? That's what it looks like.
I'm not reaching, I've never in my life been "triggered", and you're a paid shill. Seriously, go join a circle-jerk at fark or tumblr or reddit or wherever the fuck it is that sjws congregate online these days and use words like "triggered" unironically.
only reason I can think of voting for Hillary as well. Which is not saying much cause I agree with Trump on a lot of other things, so EPA would not be the tipping point for me to vote hillary. Not even close.
you worthless shills get lazier every post. now you're just using copy-paste. the fact that you're paid only shows how desperate Hillary's campaign is for support, they'll hire borderline retarded people to pathetically attempt to tell lies on the internet. lol
Did you type that nine times, or did you type it once and copy/paste it eight times? I'm not sure if you get paid by the word or per response. Either way, I'm glad I've helped you make a few bucks tonight. I bet after the election you'll write about our conversation on your vlog.
She's lied for decades,
it's really fascinating to watch actually.
She owes too much, to too many people.
It's why she is dying to be president - in every sense of the word
but... but anon-kun...
i w..w..wanna keep my internets...
Hillary will do absolutely nothing with them. She's a politican, completely controlled by big business. And they have absolutely no interest in a nuclear war. No profit in it.
Trump will certainly use them. He's a madman, completely controlled by the voices in his head. And they want to watch the world burn. For the lulz.
well definitely not satan... if it's for the hues...
vote for the person that wants to ban gmos until she personally declares them safe, who thinks wifi damages kid's brains, who wants to immediately withdraw all troops from active war zones with no regard for what happens after?
fuck jill stein. she's right up there with clinton and trump, crazy and incompetent.
Guys, chill and watch this nightcore video
I'm a faggot.
She couldn't ban anything without Congressional approval. I don't see how focusing on our own problems before those of other nations is an issue. It's not like the military would disappear. I don't care what she thinks about Wi-fi, and I don't see how it would ever come up as an issue while she's president.
That's why I'm voting Green in California. While the Libertarian party is respectable they're not big on constitutional reform. Green Party is very much in favor of instant runoff voting and general election reform. We just need to get 1 Green in federal office to introduce such legislation and lobby for it. That 5% funding threshold, while technically it can only be used for the presidential campaign, can be focused in a single non-competitive district to really boost the exposure of the Green Party and thus its local candidate.
Neither. I'll tell you that some of us here in the USA believe that many of its problems will only continue under the policies of either of the two majority parties. As for me, I'd prefer to vote for whatever equivalent of the Monster Raving Looney Party comes up in the US.
GMOs are heavily restricted in Europe as well, seems to be fine there. Likewise any study on the matter has proven wifi gives out dangerous signals. While they're usually at a low enough level as to not be effective recent studies have shown that close proximity to a router can be harmful if you have cavity fillings. I'm not saying it's 100% confirmed but neither is she, she's just urging caution. And yeah why are we in active war zones? We're legally not at war with anyone anyway.
Really though she's not gonna win. I kind of just want her to spoil it for Hillary, nothing would be a bigger fuck you to neoliberalism then to lose from flanking.
how do you feel about your buddy's new house and ride?
You realize this is all a front, right?
But you didn't live through the Reagan era, and that's the kind of shit Trump intends to bring back.
No, he's a call to immediately creating more of the large scale proxy wars that are now haunting the present days of Western civilization, to the critical point of enough war to permanently destroy us.
I voted him in the primary cuss I have open primary state but I never planned to vote for him in the general. Voting for either major party in a non-swing state is a waste of a vote.
Do you, personally, gain any advantage from voting for the winning party?
Is there a reward of some kind? I dont understand all this talk about a vote being wasted unless its for the winning party.
What's trump hiding in his taxes?
ties to terror? china? Russia? the filthy Saudis?
i'm not voting for him until he releases his taxes, I agree with Mark Sanford of SC.
I want to vote for him... but gotta see what he's hiding.
Give it a rest. Your "god-king-emperor," isn't.
States are red or blue because of voters in them and that can change. I truly believe that Hitlery will loose blue states.
some say Trump pays 0% in taxes.
which would be fucked up.
if he truly paid 0 dollars in taxes... yeah, no. I work too hard, and pay too much in taxes to fathom that.
and to think if he paid no money in taxes, that people would still vote for him... wow.
Cheeto-cunt's campaign is basically supported by /b/tards.
Cunts deserve a cunt.
Hillary, only because trump is such a shit candidate. Anyone could of gone up against hillary and won easily except this idiot trump. It is actually a race right now and it could go either way.
Trump's always been under investigation for one sketchy thing or another. The man is and always has been the physical embodiment of capitalist greed and corruption.
Just think for a moment: before all this, what did you really think/know about Trump? I mean, say, 10 years ago, what was Trump doing? What 'duty' was he actually doing for the American people? Nothing. He was out making money for himself, and has been since even before then. Trump is about Trump; he's never cared about anyone but Trump.
The fact that people legit think this billionaire plutocrat knows or even cares about what's in the best interest for the average American citizen is laughable.
he was the guy from the apprentice 10 years ago. he was the "youre fired" guy.
that guy might be president.
Please if youre gonna provide an alarming stat, don't make it one where the general public can knowledge that all life has been using the same 2% of Earth's fresh water since life has existed about of the ocean.
YOU haven't provided any decent sources. Your graphs are nonsense.
Take for instance the graph of Temperature from the Volstok Ice Core samples. It's purposefully missing data...It conveniently doesn't include the CO2 levels. If it did, you' actually see that we are quite literally off the charts:
And the warmest years on record have been in the past 20 years:
>only two options
I REPEAT, once again, I'd prefer to support Nuts for President over any of those "only" two options, and I'd be satisfied to associate with the Monster Raving Loony Party if I was in the place where that's a thing.
>Eating pizza crust first
Again Trump impresses, the crust is the best part. This just proves that he really is a lawful, tough, no nonsense patriot who takes what he wants when he wants it, not some frail old woman who can barely put her hands above her head.
Have you ever had new money in your neighborhood? The type that's always threatening to sue everyone?
Yeah, that's donny and melania. New trashy money.
Fred grew up poor, and didn't raise donny well. Melania grew up in the ghettos of Slovenia, and was a whore *who donald happened upon one night*.
Just trashy, nasty people.
Yes it is, fam. Throughout his life, Trump has flipped from one side to the other, whichever and whenever it was most beneficial to him.
I usually vote against what the majority of /b/ likes. For example, during the obama runs all I heard here on /b/ was no way a nigger was gonna be president. Nigger this and nigger that. Now during these elections I hear them saying Trump is a savior, trump will save the white race and so on. So, by using critical thinking it is safe to go against the majority of /b/'s opinion on politics. This place is full of retards. Hillary has my vote just on that basis.
Well in that case, this is who I'd prefer.
Texas isn't a red state anymore. Florida was until 2008.
Texas, due to demographics, will be solidly blue by 2024. So will Georgia and both Carolinas.
Thank god for the Hispanics. It's time to end the conservative trickle down theory that only benefits the top 10%.
You're done, conservative whites.
No, he isn't. A single poll doesn't magically refute the dozens of other polls saying the opposite.
The LA Times Poll's methodology is flawed. It doesn't sample random people, it follows a specific set of people through their changing opinions.
No, "all polls" don't do that. Some polls do. And there are ways to address that.
If all polls were this flawed, then predictions based on those polls would be flawed as well. But they aren't. The predictions are highly accurate.
What are you fucking retarded?
>DRUMPF.. HAHAH DONALD TRUMP'S ANCESTOR CHANGED HIS LAST NAME HAHAHAH ISN'T THAT SO FUNNY..
No way, I'm still voting for Nuts because I refuse to fully support either of the two highly partisan sides, including hers and yours, over the side commited to being themselves which is therefore Independent. I'm voting for Michael Bloomberg, or even seriously for Deez Nuts.
So many nu male faggot cucks in this thread. Disgusting.
The president appoints the head of the FCC, ATF, and FDA just for starters. The next president will appoint 2 Supreme Court Justices and many Federal Court Judges. That is an enormous amount of power.
You didn't address a single thing I said. It's not the opinions of the paper I'm talking about, dummy, it's the flaws in the methodology. It's not a sample of the US population.
A single poll with a flawed methodology does not magically refute all the other polls saying otherwise.
By the way, even the "2 points" is within their margin of error, so even if we trusted that LA Times poll, you couldn't confidently distinguish who was in the lead.
I cuckold my wife, we find it hot and liberating. Also, I vote republican. The term 'cuck' is ridiculous, I feel like some young, ignorant and frankly stupid child introduced the term to denigrate liberals. And I'm offended by that. Because I'm neither liberal, nor am I beta.
Young voters surging towards trump after it was shown Hillary rigged the system against Bernie
Military members majority voting for trump due to hillary getting away with a crime that would brand them as traitors (outside of pussy ass National Guardsmen who wanted sum free college and socialism)
SJWs have done more to turn people towards trump than anything he could do on his own.
There's no 'flaws in methodology'. They have a pool of over 3000 people they use in their polling. RESEARCH IT.
Although it's a liberal rag - their methodology is sound.
And Trump IS ahead.
Two of many untrustworthy narcissistic, egotistical, sheep-leaders. Those in their circles will benefit. The rest who "benefit" will be accidental. Mental health wise; there will be an increase in depression, alcohol, drugs, suicide. Good times ahead.
>mfw Americans are too stupid to realize Hillary already won the election
You lost me at racist apperheid
SA was a arid desert Whites cam started farming slavery was illegal because of the british.
Whites offerd jobs to people from neighboring countries.
More came and now out number the black workers and whites
Workers and whites get attack raped mugged constantly
Appertheid comences they keep the non working immigrant blacks away from the whites and black paid labor.
67 deaths a year
Nelson Mandela the self proclaimed terrorist seases power withe terror attacks, kills 77,000 people
SA rape capital of the world
37 deaths a day
No one asked whites to show up in SA in the first place. Maybe next time, stay where you are instead of going where you're not invited just to make it more comfortable for yourselves.
>complains about refugees in America and Europe doing exactly what Europeans have BEEN doing everywhere else for centuries
Wow epic burn kid, sure she shows up to debate some old bought socialist windbag that was paid to take a fall and weasel out, also what is that image? Hilary Clinton dressed as a hippy?
What about this image where she is dressed as a racist goldwater supporter?
Bernie when he was young was getting beat up by the cops for protesting
Trump was making money, and building an empire of real estate across new york and the whole world.
Hilary Clinton was dancing for a anti civil rights racist moron.
She has a blood clot in the back of her head, meanwhile trump is literally the healthiest candidate that has ran for 2016 other then maybe ted cruz.
If you think Trump is to blame for all the drama you're a fucking dumb cunt. Do you realise how high school that is? He said something I didn't like so now I'm going to go and break things and hurt people who had nothing to do with it. Fucking chronically offended millennial garbage generation is going to be the undoing of everything you hold dear and the reason that in twenty years all your women will be wearing beekeeper suits. Have fun with Sharia law when you vote for Hillary and she brings you all into a communist fucking nightmare.
America will be lucky if the election even goes ahead for all the stupid fucking brainwashed leftys to vote for that evil slut cunt. If you're getting your information from the mainstream media machine you're nothing but sheeple.
And you should be fucking ashamed of yourselves for letting cunts like Obama and Hillary hijack your country. You do realise you were the only ones who had a chance to be free don't you? Your constitution and bill of rights is fucking amazing. Your founding fathers knew that the bankers and insiders would try to claw your country back into their filthy hands. That's why they never wanted a central bank! Little by little you sit back and watch fucking cunts like Shillary erode freedoms that others only dream of.
Do not let her take the guns.
Do not let Obama sign your first amendment rights over to the UN.
For fuck's sake WAKE UP and stop these fucking cunts before the last bastion of freedom on the planet is gone!
As Putin said recently: "I don't know how to get through to you people anymore".
Fucking glad I don't have children that's for sure, if you aren't rich as fuck (and put your money into gold, now) you're destined to be raped culturally, spiritually and eventually physically when Orthodox Islam breeds us all out. (They have six kids to our two, it's not rocket science. It's maths).
The answer to 1984 is 1776.
This is how the system works and functions.
-ident of the female aryan prison gang
Does CTR copy a post that would be factual when describing Hillary and just paste Trumps name in?
Yes there are. I already explained some to you. You failed to address them. That poll is a TRACKING poll of California voters, not random sample of the U.S. population. It has several problems:
You're not going to make facts go away.
You said this same shit 8 years ago when you were trying to convince us Obama was going to take our guns, make us all gay, and force us to convert to Islam. Shut the fuck up with this alarmist bullshit.
defining viewpoints that were not specified before is not a flipflop
the top three have ZERO power. there is no way this nation would give them any power to launch nukes. you can't allow that based on a bunch of little shitheads on the street voting--and the public vote doesn't count and isn't required by the constitution--and no matter what, they do NOT have any power to launch nukes. here's a fun fact... the actual US facility that launched nukes as depicted in "war games" was called "delta-9". that's probably why the film starts with two nuclear "turn the key" guys discussing some lady that grows the best weed.
Jep lets fuck the Illuminati over and vote him in , fuck social engineering
I fucking agree with that , i remember the fall of Athens.
>not a girl
Thats Capt Kathryn Janeway , they dont make women like that yet.