Second Amendment thread.
People protecting themselves with guns.
Post people protecting themselves against robbers and niggers with guns.
Also post debates against retarded liberals who want to ban them.
>>700721479
-1 nigger
>>700723094
And on that day humanity had another small victory against the big spook infestation
>>700721479
>>700721479
Kek. Fucking nigger
>>700721479
Did nig nog ded?
All I got. Bumping for interest
>>700721479
Post aftermath of people who couldn't defend themselves because they couldn't carry a firearm
>>700725084
That's in South Africa, local leo, using a non-lethal round
>>700726102
Go to Rekt threads for that type of stuff.
Go to here if you want people defending themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQAWmAISxGg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Un5I05Y9lI
>>700726202
yeah just a bump. didnt have anything on topic.
>>700725084
Why does that shot look not lethal? Not an actual firearm?
>>700726527
Non-Lethal round, through it can hurt people.
>>700726527
Because it's not. There is non lethal rounds for firearms.
>>700724457
Yes, through keep in mind that the nog deserved it.
>>700726695
Clean.
True story guise.
>>700726695
He should go to jail. Robbery shouldn't be a death sentence.
>>700726695
>>700721479
I'm a liberal and I don't want to ban guns, what now faggot cuck lord?
>>700727089
kek
>>700726834
>>700726527
It was probably a rubber bullet. Imagine getting shot by a extremely strong paintball gun.
>>700727158
So, the liberals in charge do
>>700727158
Then you are just a confused moran.
>>700727129
Doesn't matter,
If you don't want to get shot, don't rob stores. Simple.
>>700721479
I strongly oppose the concept of banning guns outright, but I feel there should be better regulations on high caliber, automatic guns that can kill large groups of people in an instant. Just my opinion on the whole ordeal.
>>700727336
>Moran
Okay faggot.
>>700727129
Armed robbery. Fuck that guy, he made it lethal by waving a gun around and holding everyone's life in his hands. He knew the risk and did it anyway. When there is no risk this situation because very common. Also you're gay.
>>700727129
Nigger detected.
>>700727129
Holy bait
>>700727129
fuck you faggot
>>700727129
congratulations you hold the award for biggest retard
>>700727129
>Someone threatening to end your life for money
>You defend it
>You go to jail because you didn't die
Good job liberalism
>>700727129
>>700727129
nah he lost his right to live when he pointed a deadly weapon at somone
>>700721479
>http://controversialtimes.com/issues/constitutional-rights/12-times-mass-shootings-were-stopped-by-good-guys-with-guns/
This is the conservacucks only defense. 12 mass shootings, out of a total of 119 since 2010. 119 of our CHILDREN shot and killed in their schools, but lets be proud of the 6 or so that someone with a gun saved. Their lives matter so much more than the hundred others that WERENT saved.
>>700727444
Checked
>>700727158
That means you don't want them to be banned but you don't care if they do get banned.
>>700727425
Do you know the difference between using a high calibre gun and a low calibre? Because I'd rather have a .22 that is lightweight and I can unload 50 rounds in under a minute if I wanted whereas a high calibre gun will be much slower and heavier with much smaller round capacity.
>>700727588
>>700727588
maybe so many die in school shooting is cause schools are gun free zones, usually the only gun legally on campus is a single cop.
>>700727129
You're kidding right? The guy was trying to rob a private business. It's the same as someone smashing down my door, entering my home, and trying to take my stuff. You're damn right I'm going to end your life and I'm going to be happy to do it.
>>700726487
wtf is that guy trying to do with a hostage at a gas station?
Anyone here like Steven Crowder?
In this video, he pretends to be a Liberal to see what people who want to ban guns, actually know about guns.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqJ_4YhYMhE
>>700726695
kek look how fast that dude ran out
>>700727558
As it should be. Most robbers don't want to hurt anyone. Society failed them and they are desperate and/or mentally ill. You know who thought the dejected and mentally ill should die? HITLER.
>>700727588
why not look at how many of those were in gun free zones? any law abiding citizen wouldnt take a gun into a school to conceal in case something happened because guns arent allowed there you cuck. get rid of the gun free zones and what happens then, people can carry where they feel they might need to, and alot more crimes could be stopped.
>>700727923
Not the same. Everyone was free to leave the danger zone. It's just money. You don't know his story, his experience with inequity. Money crimes should not have death sentences.
>>700727949
He's alright but fuck this video. I was screaming at the screen for him to at the end drop the act and inform the people and he never did.
>>700727444
Couldn't hear you with your mouth full of that bait. Your an idiot.
>>700727588
>119 of our CHILDREN shot and killed in their schools
This is bait right?
>>700728146
Eugenics was around before Hitler, and is still around after Hitler. If you're robbing using a weapon, you're literally showing intent to kill if need be.
Now you may be just bluffing, but how am I to know that? I've got a Wife and Son back home who could receive news that their Husband/Dad is dead because some scum wanted a couple hundred bucks without working. I'm going to take the path where I am 100% safe, instead of the path where I'm not.
>>700727942
Those were likely the gas station workers.
Probably for trucks doing night driving or whatever the fuck. Probably wanted one of the others to go fetch the cash from register. Impossible to do if all 4 are up and walking, they'd just rush him. Or distract and shoot.
>>700727129
Bullshit, try to come rob me you fucking cuck...I'd fucking throw you in my freezer out back and save you for the winter.
>gunfag logic
Gun laws don't stop all gun related crimes from occurring, therefore all gun laws are bad.
Guess we should get rid of all of the police because they can't stop all crimes from occurring.
>>700727821
Either we're talking about gun restrictions or we're talking about criminal statistics. Pick one and stick to it. inb4 this cunt tries the good ol "b-but cars kill more people per year than guns do. should we ban cars?" defense. If we were talking about HEAVILY REGULATED automobiles, maybe then we'll bring up car death stats. Till then, we're talking about GUN DEATHS in particular. inb4 some other faggot links to this saying "rifles kill less than 1% of that gun death stat too" = "guns kill people but this particular gun doesn't kill as many people as the others do so ALL guns are ok!"
>not how statistics work whatsoever
>>700728161
>gun free zones
>every school in the US is a gun free zone
So the people who WERE carrying when they "saved those schools" were ILLEGALLY in possession of a firearm on school property. They were breaking the law, trying to stop people from breaking the law. How ironic.
>>700727630
Actually, I do care if they're banned
Any more theories cuckoo?
>>700727425
Guns don't actually work that way. The most effective spree killings have been carried out with semi-automatic handguns, explosives and vehicle hijackings. A long gun isn't really a spree weapon, they're for hunting and long-range combat. The only killings in recent memory stateside I can think of is the DC beltway sniper attack, though he chose to use his XM bushmaster no differently than a bolt-action hunting rifle. The most relevant assault rifle use I can think of recently is stuff like Charlie Hebdo, terrorists using soviet surplus millitary and black market gear.
Assault rifle meme is shitty, if anything what's scary in a spree scenario is someone with an automatic pistol, basically with weapons generally used by tank crews for close-in defense against people putting satchel charges or whatnot under their tank/bradley/etc. Such weapons run out of ammo very quickly, they have not seen use in a spree killing since the Columbine massacre. To carry any significant quantity of machine pistol ammo would mean carrying 30+ pounds of brass.
But the most effective methods will remain explosives and hijacking
>state laws do shit all to stop shootings
>federal laws might help but also could do nothing
We need to have some kind of law to make a law so we can stop nignogs buying guns a shooting without impeding legitimate gun owners and that is impossible to do without blanket firearm bans and registration.
>>700728455
And *you're* fucking retarded.
>>700728460
Its fact. Google it. 119 school shootings in the last 26 years, and 119 deaths resulting from them. Coincidence that the numbers match up but I counted out the fatalities myself. 119 kids were shot in their classrooms, and that stat doesn't include the ones who were injured. The tally would be through the roof.
>>700726383
What an absolute Madman at min 1
>>700728337
His circumstances don't matter. Who cares if he's poor? There are welfare programs set up for people like that.
Your saying that the circumstances can justify the crime.
What if I haven't been with a woman in 5 years, does it mean I can go rape one? I mean get fucking real buddy, the law's the law.
If you steal from me I will kill you..
>>700728146
you're a gigantic fucking nigger loving faggot
>>700728937
And you want to suck on Jimbo and Cletus's sweaty micro-cocks, what about it?
Stop falling for the bait and post more robbers being fucked rekt by second amendment please. Thanks.
>>700728654
What is false equivalencies and straw manning an argument?
>>700728146
Bait's getting bigger
>>700728850
That is basically no deaths in 26 years
>>700728678
obvious bait, but ill bite. heres my local law for guns in gun free zones
It is a class I felony to possess a firearm on school grounds.[28]
This statute does not apply to:
unloaded and encased firearms
individuals with firearms for use in a school-approved program
individuals with school contract to possess firearm
on-duty law enforcement acting in official capacity
off-duty officers or retired law enforcement who maintain their certification per Federal Law HR218.
unloaded firearms when traversing school grounds to gain access to hunting land, if the entry is approved by the school.
>>700728678
I don't get it
>>700727129
Your pussy is so tight.
>>700728825
pic related.
I'd like to add that I haven't even heard a politician outright say, "BAN ALL GUNS". All they're asking us to allow, is stricter background checks and mental health restrictions. It's not even that unreasonable, yet everyone has a fucking seizure over the possibility of NOT letting our clinically diagnosed psychopaths get their hands on deadly weapons. You can't bitch about your kids dying, and then turn around and say you need your guns IN CASE shit hits the fan. Your kid dying was the worst case scenario, shit already HIT the fan.
>>700729138
No, it's 119 deaths precisely. Because I can count.
>>700729275
forgot pic
>>700728733
If you vote for liberal politicians you are making a compromise for the majority of liberal things you agree with them on and being willing to look away from their desire to restrict gun rights.
>>700728678
>>700729160
so if a person or a teacher did have a contract with the school to carry a firearm and had kept all their concealed carry permits up to date it would not be breaking the lase, clearly they would have to have a contract to carry you libtard faggot.
>>700721479
Sadly, the store owner iglected to administer the taxpayer relief shot. Nigger pissed all over the cash.
>>700729088
Not really. It's a logical correlation, and not a strawman trying to make an argument easier to defend.
>x don't work to stop all crimes therefore get rid of x
>>700729777
He could have been mentally ill. Didn't deserve to die for what is really a money crime
>>700729088
If anything you can try to make the arguments that I am using weasel words. Want to try again faggot?
>>700729160
>unloaded firearms
Obviously loaded if they shot someone to stop a killing spree.
>school approved program
Precludes the "gun free zone" logic and shoots your own argument in the foot.
>School contract to possess firearm
I bet EVERYONE gets that as soon as they sign up for ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CLASSES
>on duty law enforcement
>off duty officers who maintain certification
So security guards, or in other words employees with guns who are paid to do what they did. 12 times someone actually did their job? lets give everyone guns because those guys did what we pay them to do!
>hunting
>at an elementary school
>or any school in general
Yknow why people DONT hunt at our schools? Because they ironically enough DONT want our children to get shot.
>>700729821
Racist cops shooting man who didn't pose a threat
>>700721479
Land of the free they said. Yeah, ""free"". When you're afraid of offending people, of omiting out yout honest opinions, because if they're offended they'd easily shoot you.
>>700729922
magestic
>>700730043
Killed because they were just being punk kids, but because they are black we call them dangerous thugs and shoot them. He could have walked away and let them take the money. It wasn't even his money.
>>700729382
Yea, except spread over 26 years. From a death per year standpoint that is less than falling in the fucking tub.
>>700729275
You value human life too much yet you don't want to defend it. What makes a psycho any less deserving to defend himself than Mr. Minority at his corner store? They're both human and have an inherent right to defend themselves with the most effective means available.
If you don't believe in this, then why do you care if people are shot?
>>700730120
well regulated militia, not "i determine what well means and who the militia gets to be bcuz im fucking federalfaggubbment."
>>700729959
>this melanin-enriched man and his friend is threating my life and livelihood with a gun.
>He may be mentally ill, so I cannot shoot until I get approval from a psychologist.
christ.
>>700728678
You're a fucking patsy.
>>700730308
I don't fucking care if it's a nigger, jew, redneck or asian. If u fucking try to rob me by force you'll get killed.
>>700729545
>so IF a person or teacher
>implying every single gun carrying official on school grounds has ALL of their paperwork in order every single time they go rambo and singlehandedly save the day with their rooty tooty point and shooties
In a perfect world, everyone would have their paperwork in order. And in the world we live in, Omar Mateen HAD all of his paperwork in order. And now 50+ people are rotting in the ground because of it.
>>700728337
It wasn't a money crime, the very seconds he threatens to use lethal force.
>>700730386
No, just call the cops. Everyone wins and we don't take innocent life.
Unfortunately current laws in the US are on the thief side. You get in a TON of trouble by shooting somebody in self defense. Get ready to sell everything you worked hard for just to pay legal fees...
>>700728850
>I'm just gonna start spewing out statistics and then when people call me out on it i'll just tell them to look it up themselves and scoff at them when they don't believe me
Fuck off.
>>700727129
nah you go into a place to rob it you better be ready to die
>>700730584
Gotta live in Texas
>>700730038
so what youre saying is law enforcement shouldnt be able to bring a gun to a school shooting. gotcha, you have as much knowledge as Feinstein
"When the gunman realizes that nobody else is armed, he will lay down his weapons and turn himself in.... that's just human nature."
this is what you democrats believe isnt it.
>>700730120
That is not how the law interpreted today though, and the supreme court has not yet said it's wrong.
>>700726487
That was one hell of a shot.
Let's be honest, would you rather be shot or stabbed?
Personally, shot. Much quicker and I'll probably die faster too.
>>700730354
You can defend yourself in more ways than a 9mm on your hip. The difference is one of them is more likely to use their weapon in an offencive manner
>>700730579
>Using a weapon in connection with a robbery.
>Innocent
Pick one bernfag.
>>700730354
>defend themselves
>if you don't believe that psychos shouldnt defend themselves than why do you care if people are shot?
There is a MASSIVE difference between shooting at a human being, and shooting at a hallucination. If you're diagnosed with dissociative personality disorder, every single human being you meet in your life is a threat to you because you're hearing voices in your head TELLING you so. THAT is where I draw the line between a "responsible" gun owner who uses a shotgun to put down a dying cow, and a Dylan Rooff who obtains an assault grade weapon to shoot up a church just because he doesn't like black people. there is a gigantic difference, and lumping all of them in together is what clouds the issue for faggots like you. Psychos defend themselves from imaginary friends, while farmers defend themselves from the government they keep re-electing back into office over and over and over again. in a way, they're both psychotic. so neither deserve to own guns.
>>700730579
>>take innocent life
>point gun at someone
>say you will kill them if they don't follow your commands
>innocent
>>700730760
Shot, fifty cent got shot like 9 times and that nigga is still alive.
>>700730043
Dat CNS hit doe
>>700730628
Wow, I even told you to google it and everything. The stat was compiled from a compendium of different sources, would you like me to babyfeed you your mashed potatoes while I'm at it?
>>700727256
Shit can still kill you, same way a baseball to the chest can.
How about a compromise: Gun nuts get all the guns they want for free, but they have to suck the bullets out of Obama’s cock.
>>700730038
i know it must be scary for you to think of but here in wisconsin we do still have shooting clubs at schools.
off duty doesnt mean that they arent a police officer anymore. thats like me saying im a plumber, but only when im on the clock and getting paid
>>700730120
>>700730731
Indeed. In fact, the Supreme Court has gone so far to say that the 2nd Amendment provides and INDIVIDUAL right to self-defense with a gun.
>>700730918
Pipes have a legit purpose beyond TAKING HUMAN LIFE!!!
>>700730670
I guess, maybe the Lone Star State is the right place to be. Although, is way WAY to hot overthere.
>>700721479
didndunufin
>>700731016
>uhg wow you actually want me to like? Show evidence for what I say? Are you like retarded? It's like common knowledge just fucking like look it up and shit! I can't believe people freak out when I say shit and they don't believe me!
>>700730057
He has a gun in that yellow bag..
>>700729777
Checked and keked
>>700727129
he had a gun you idiot threatening others lives he deserve to rot in the ground
>>700730120
THE PEOPLE you stupid fuck
>>700730702
>ALL deaths can't be stopped therefore NO deaths should be stopped
It isn't an all or nothing thing, friendo. How many countries DONT have guns, yet also have gun related homicides lowered AFTER banning them outright? The answer is basically ALL of them. Every other country on the planet values their citizens lives more than we do, and we're the ones watching our kids get shot and shitting ourselves over the cause.
>when the gunman realizes that nobody else is armed
>implying a gunman can get his hand on a gun easier than you can when they're ALL BANNED
The ego it takes to believe that you will be in danger if an apocalypse happens is astounding to say the least. You are not that important.
>>700730760
...in which part of your body?
>>700730784
Now your judging. If a psycho hasn't acted on his mental illness before, we have no right to bar him from defending himself.
The only way you could possibly say he is more deadly than someone else is by looking at statistics but at that rate, you would notice blacks and minorities comment a disproportionate amount of violent crime. Should we bar them from defendimg themselves?
And once again, a gun is the most effective means to defend oneself. To assume making it more difficult for those who want to defend themselves (i.e law abiding citizens aka the vast majority of gun owners) to obtain weapons, the ones committing violent crime are suddenly going to lose their guns to is crazy.
You would have to go to every single human habitation and disarm every person for such a thing to MAYBE work. Illegal firearms would still creep across the border.
>>700731153
>implying antifags aren't the ones just painting over the final part and leaving the above part visible.
Is my katana covered by the second amendment too?
>>700731081
Go find a safe space, faggot.
>>700730918
Oh, are we talking about HEAVILY REGULATED plumbing equipment now?
>anything you compare gun related deaths to will be a moot point because everything thats potentially dangerous in this country is HEAVILY REGULATED by government agencies to AVOID fatalities
>everything except guns
>>700731543
inb4 la times poll showing the opposite
only cucked nations do not have right to possess firearms in their constitution.
>>700730120
I don't really get the point this is even trying to make. This is a really vapid criticism that doesn't even offer a solution. Obviously you don't want an asshole buying a gun.
>>700730308
Yes. Then that "punk kid" can move on to robbing other places, eventually shooting some innocent sap in the process. Great logic.
>>700731400
>implying a gunman can get his hand on a gun easier than you can when they're ALL BANNED
how di that work out for niggers in chicago? you know with their gun violence being up 88% from last year, although having some of the strictest gun laws in america
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/04/01/murders-shootings-soar-chicago-through-first-three-months-2016/82507210/
>>700731714
this
/THREAD
>>700731580
Clerk had the right to blow his brains out and should have. A lot of restraint was shown that day.
>>700731273
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States
119 count comes from this
>http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-deaths-and-injuries-statistics/
>In 2010, guns took the lives of 31,076 Americans in homicides, suicides and unintentional shootings. This is the equivalent of more than 85 deaths each day and more than three deaths each hour.1
73,505 Americans were treated in hospital emergency departments for non-fatal gunshot wounds in 2010.2
is this really all you have? ad hominem? quit while you're ahead.
>>700728850
Big fucking deal. In a country with 300m people 119 died in 26 years. How many were raped or killed by niggers. By your logic we should ban niggers not guns. Actually you may be on to something there.
>>700726487
I like this one. Dude is slick
>>700727949
steven crowder is a joke. he's a canadian pretending to give a shit
>>700726487
1 less white person. A victorious day
>>700731832
I'm not murican and weapons aren't so easy to get in my country, still I fucking understand the pro-gun. I'd fucking buy 1 gun for defense if I had so many niggers laying around.
>>700727158
You're not really a faggot, you just like it in the ass...
>>700731207
like guns, for example, sport shooting, and hunting
>>700731454
Any. Random. A chest stabbing will kill you but not as quick as a gun shot. You will be in immense misery as your life slowly fades away where with a gun shot it will fade much quicker and be less painful because you'll be in shock, maybe not even know it happened.
>>700727129
7/10 bait
>>700732011
>Brazilian
>White
Pick one faggot
>>700721479
Not sure OP but I will tell you how I like my hotdogs.
Let me tell you what I do. I usually do 2 at a time.
>Take the bun, spread some garlic margarine on it. Then, take a cheese slice, and put it in the bun.
>Microwave the bun so the cheese melts on it.
>Microwave the hotdog so it just about splits.
>Throw some mince white onion on it (mince like McDonalds onions)
>Put a bit of mayo, some Dijon mustard, and a little bit of ketchup (or BBQ sauce if you prefer)
Enjoy! The Recipe is all yours friend!
>>700731543
>Meanwhile the research itself says that gun violence in general was going down before gun laws and the enactment of the laws showed no real causative effect to lowering the gun violence
But yeah some faggot meme on the internet trumps that shit I guess.
http://crimeresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Report-on-gun-related-suicides-and-crime-for-the-Australian-Parliament-Rev.pdf
>>700731832
Wait, are we talking about gun restrictions or are we talking about black on black crime? Pick one and stick to it.
>even illinois politicians have given up on chicago as a whole
>gun violence is not a new thing there
>not by a long shot
>>700721479
It's not self defense if you murder someone for money. He is NOT 'protecting himself' he just murdered a man for some cash.
>>700726102
Women who got her fucking face teared off by a chimpanzee, funny enough her friend was screaming at 911 to send a cop with a gun over ASAP, a gun would have saved the women but nooo, MORE FUCKING GUN CONTROL PLEASE!!! TERRORISTS DONT REPRESENT ALL MUSLIMS BUT THEY REPRESENT ALL GUN OWNERS A-FUCKING-PPARENTLY.
>>700726695
I wonder what the legal outcome of this was. You could argue that the back up gun guy was enough of a threat to justify the shooting. On the other hand he didn't appear to be doing any of the intimidating, Probably would come down to witness interpretation.
>>700732173
The moment someone points a weapon at you it's self defense.
>>700727949
Red herring
It's like saying you first need to be a nuclear physicist in order to be against proliferation of nukes.
someone explain why a AR is needed to kill a man
>>700732140
exactly my point. it has some of the strictest gun laws in the nation, but that doesnt stop niggers from obtaining guns. or commiting crimes with them.
>>700732084
I'd rather get stabbed then. Getting shot in the torso will just produce internal bleeding, which is actually a long, drawn out process in which your life force slowly and excruciatingly drains from your body.
>>700723932
>not wearing eye or ear protection
Faggot deserved it
>>700728850
There are around 700k defensive gun uses per year but let me ignore that and roll over for you 119 dead kids. Not.
>>700732337
if 5 guys try to assault you 1 shitty pistol won't do shit.
>>700732173
Was the clerk paid to shot people in the face? If not, it wasn't about the cash. Two robbers stuck a gun in his face and took the mercy of the clerk's life in their hands. In no logical way, can anyone argue what the clerk did was wrong.
poor muricans.. so damn fucking scared of beeing harmed.. its almost ridicolous.
>>700732173
Cash is, in most cases, earned by working an hourly wage, no? An hour is worked by someone so that hour was spent by that person to make money.
Money = time
People have to work for money, meaning that money is an extension of themselves. Therefore they are defending themselves
>>700730971
Where the fuck did you get those facts man. A basic google search shows that isn't true.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/expanded-homicide-data/expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2010-2014.xls
There was a lot of anti gun websites with stats but i avoided those, this one is straight off fbi.gov. which is what your shit stats claim to source
Unless your talking like fucking albania or some shit idk
>>700732337
nignogs?
>>700732385
>your life force slowly and excruciatingly drains from your body.
>dat thorough understanding of modern medical science
>>700732469
Absolutely beautiful.
>>700732351
>strictest gun laws in the nation
>doesn't stop black on black crime in particular even though NOTHING has made a dent in the black on black crime statistics throughout the entire country
>pic related
>>700732606
yeah so let's go mow down a bunch of niggers cause that's justified to keep ARs
>>700727588
A gun in every backpack and a grenade in every classroom that's what Abraham Lincoln would have wanted.
>>700731824
It's keeping the tyrants at bay. Nobody recognizes the heroes who keep catastrophe from happening.
>>700732618
So you'd rather writhe in agony for the few hours it takes for the ER doctor to sew your ass back up as opposed to sitting in the ER for max of an hour and a half while they bandage a small knife wound?
>not understanding medical procedures this hard
>>700731921
Pretty much all of them committed by Black and Mexicans. Maybe we should ban them instead of banning guns?
>>700731543
Australia is an island you idiot, makes a big difference
>>700732677
Remove guns from society and they'll go back to jumping them with clubs and spears as means of combat.
>>700732743
except for the word "go" that's exactly what the Korean community of LA did in the late '80s
"The second amendment protects all others"
Looks not to be the case.
Not surprising since most gunfags couldn't name more than a few other amendments off the top of their head.
>>700730864
Love to see the stats/source on this one.
>>700732828
Oh, are we talking about minority crime statistics or are we talking about gun related deaths since 2010? Pick one and stick to it.
>>700732469
Why can't I live in this world?
;_;
>>700731858
.22 rim fire no less
>>700732863
Fuck off Randy
>>700732863
>hit on the head with a club
>can survive this thanks to modern medical advancements
>shot in the head
>dead on the spot
Something about the "lesser of two evils" inserted here...
>>700732884
Fuck off, Randy Bobandy
>>700732825
>implying you'd be stabbed or sliced only once
>>700732825
>talking about life force
>get called out on it
>tries turning the tables
>looks like more of a retard
>>700732606
That black man looks pretty white to me. Especially if he's building a custom AR and not buying some knockoff AK and wearing pants around his knees.
>>700726487
Would've been SO PISSED if my friend did this. Gr8 b8 made me reply.
>>700732571
are guns banned in that shit hole known as france?
>>700727129
If you don't want anything bad to happen to you, don't do anything bad to other people. That simple.
>>700732337
AR-15, IMO, is an all around gun for me. If you fired guns you'd realize the types of guns all have their different pros and cons. Some people prefer shotguns, rifles, or handguns for home defense. I think AR-15 best suits the job for me. AR-15 can also be used for other shit like hunting though. Just feeling like pointing this out though that the AR-15 make up an extreme minority of gun violence and that the vast majority of people who own them are law abiding citizens...
>>700730120
flagrant misinterpretation
>>700731526
>>700727588
12 is better than none
>>700733057
Dude get some concrete at the end of some rebar and I'm sure you could crunch a skull like nothing. Spears being thrown could kill if neck/head.
And you forgot niggers don't stop until the fucker dies.
>>700732677
i linked a news article on chicago shootings. go read it you dumb fuck and stop trying to use your black on black crime to get away from the argument ive proved you wrong in. clearly gun restrictions dont work, illinois is proof of that. and now youll try to claim that they get them from outside states like wisconsin and bring them back. wrong. a different state will not sell you a firearm from a ffl if you do not hold a license in that state. next youll bring up private party sales, its up to the seller to make sure that the buyer is legally able to purchase a firearm, we can run names and DOB throughout the whole entire state of wisconsin all from our circuit court website. you also cannot legally sell a firearm to a person that doesnt hold a license in the state that you are selling it in. so thats out the window as well because then it would be considered a crime in itself. and we all know that criminals dont follow laws. but keep trying
>>700733230
So kids who tp houses should be shot? Logic FAIL.
>>700733114
>knows so little about medical technology that hes ignorant to the fact that we still cannot cure internal bleeding 100% in the year of our lord 2016
>actually AM an EMT driver and we cannot
>>700721479
W
H
Y
?
>>700732973
It is correlated. Blacks and Mexicans are responsible for the vast majority of violent crimes in the U.S. If we are to stop violence we must eradicate them completely.
>>700730308
Punk kids don't go around pointed pistols at people you fucking idiot. Punk kids grab a soda and run off with it without paying. Those were criminals threatening someone's life, and were dealt with accordingly.
>>700732831
Im confuse on what Australia being an island has anything to do with gun violence
>>700733532
Yes if he points a handgun at you when you come outside to stop him
Yes, actually. If you ask them to stop and they continue, it becomes violent intent.
>>700733112
>implying you'd get shot only once
If someone wants you dead, they'll try to make it as painful as possible. Which includes shooting you in the abdomen once, and letting you bleed to death very slowly over the course of the next few hours. But try to go to an ER, I'm sure they'll drop every single thing they're doing to make sure you have gauze taped to a wound they can do VERY LITTLE about.
>>700733498
But not better than the 119 they missed.
>>700732598
He was referencing rifles. Not all guns. And that specific rifle is the only one on the banning table. And all rifles in general were used in less than 400 murders. That pic is dead on accurate per your link
>>700732269
>>700727129
Are you fucking serious? These guys are committing armed robbery. Commit armed robbery and know it might result in your death they take that risk when commuting a serious crime. What else should this good Samaritan have done? Often times armed robbery will kill witnesses AFTER they get the money should the good guy waited to see if he was going to get shot waited till he was bleeding on the floor before he used his weapon let's see you do that when your worthless life is on the line.
lets just take a moment to recall how simple the machine in question is. you could make one no matter how regulated.
>>700732337
It doesn't matter if it's needed. It's a right. The document is called the Bill of Rights, not the Bill of Needs.
Beyond that, an AR-15 is just a rifle that looks "scary" to progressives who don't know shit about guns. See attached for another example.
>>700733733
Meant for
>>700733532
>>700733604
No, you fucking retard. You put the ones who actually commit crimes in jail, and you leave the ones who don't commit crimes alone.
>>700733656
That's your bias from your white privileged upbringing. Don't judge the black experience if you haven't lived it. You don't know their motivations because you don't have their life experience. Not to mention repeated societal failure.
>>700732598
this is weak bait, everyone knows you cut tomatoes with an AR-15
>>700733186
ok. france has less guns and less people killled by guns. you always come up with "less guns but still people killed". really man, is that calculation so hard? less guns=less people killed by guns. no guns=no people killed by guns. more guns=more people killled by guns.
>>700733681
It's a lot harder to smuggle them in. In southern Ontario where I live more than half of the violent crimes involving firearms are smuggled across the border from the US. Australia doesn't have this issue
>>700729444
Nice trips
>>700733126
Yeah I'd get shot by him anyday
>>700732863
Fuck off
>>700729492
Everyone does this with politics.
I would be willing to bet that neither guns nor abortion will be banned in the US, so it's probably best to vote based on other issues than those (maybe incentives for local industry, infrastructure improvements, etc.).
>>700733515
>proved you wrong in according to me the master of strawman fallacies
You haven't done a goddamn thing except waste my time, faguette. You constructed a strawman using stats that have NOTHING to do with what we're talking about, and then proclaimed victory once you shat the bed in their presentation. Next time, you should try refuting the points someone ACTUALLY brings up, instead of proving a point that has nothing to do with the topic you're shitposting about.
>>700733570
bleeding is not life force
bleeding causes death by lowering blood pressure, thereby reducing the ability of blood to carry oxygen, and reducing the amount of red blood cells, thereby reducing the ability of blood to carry oxygen
the lack of oxygen to vital organs, primarily the brain, then causes death
no medical professional has used the term "life force" in at least a century
so post your EMT credentials or accept the fact that your medical skill is on par with a witch doctor
>>700733730
Except you said people doing bad things to others, not people with guns. FAIL.
>>700732863
fuck off, faggot
>>700732831
Not to mention the gun ban created a statistical increase in violent crime and halted all progress towards a safer Australia.
>>700721479
There are 250-350 cases of people who use a gun to kill in self defense per year.
250-350, out of 325,000,000 people in this country.
A hundred times that many would be saved if everyone wore a helmet all the time.
If you REALLY think you need a gun for protection, why aren't you wearing a helmet right now? It would be 100 times as likely as a gun to save your life.
I suspect it's because you're not interested in protecting yourself from those ultra-rare cases where a gun would help you. (Rarer, indeed, than the cases where owning a gun COSTS you your life, in fact.)
You are legit safer without a gun than with one.
Guns are instruments of death, and anyone who buys one for "protection" is either terribly misinformed and/or delusional.
>>700733855
We'll I'm just wondering how it turned out for him. I'm all for dropping those who would take my life, but I don't know how a judge might have seen this.
>>700733592
I stabbed someone with a knife during 10th grade because some niggers were jumping me, they were carrying bats and knives.
Principal had no clue what to do, do I get expelled for defending my life wih an illegal weapon, or off free because I protected myself.
Ended up expelled but I heartily kek'd. I live in Rockford, Illinois, it's common for shit like this to happen, hate niggers.
>>700726695
nice
>>700732863
Fuck off Bobandy. Nobody likes you Faggot
LETS
BAN
ALL
KNIVES
>>700727129
armed robber should be. Good bye scum. Mash'Allah he is dead. He can burn in the eternal hell fire.
>>700733421
Isn't it funny how in comics like these it's okay to draw the evil murderous crazy gun guy as the white, nra memorbilia clad, and undesirable looking person? When those people are in reality the ones who are the overwhelming majority of law abiding and responsible gun owners? And the majority of gun violence comes from blacks in the ghettos where there exists strict gun control and both the niggers in the hood and the school shooters tend to lean politically to the left or identify as democratic?
>>700733866
>yet gunfags spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on something this simple and cheap
Something about a fool and his money....
>>700734076
OH I get it, you're shitposting about the definition of a word instead of saying ANYTHING that matters.
Let's define the word "apple" next. It'll be a goddamn hoot.
>this level of autism
>>700733855
No, I'm not serious, but I have a grumpy three year old who is sick and wants me to stay in his room with a cool towel on his forehead while he feverishly tries to sleep, so I'm up trolling this thread to stave off the boredom.
>>700733866
no one?
>>700734224
>Rockford
No wonder you're a fucking racist.
>>700733592
I dont see a problem with Pepper spray. Its non lethal and wont cause serious injury as far as im aware. Which is far better than a rapist deserves, but still..
>>700734444
Trips checked
>>700734088
It'd be wonderful if all the muricans than worship violence do that, God bless murica
>>700734394
Y'all aint got ice packs?
>>700734261
Legit let's ban hands because no one has ever been killed by stubs.
Mandatory hand cutting at birth. Think of how few crimes would be committed if hands were heavily regulated or outright banned.
Starting a petition NAO
>>700734088
But why?
>>700730120
>Doesn't know what militia means
>>700721479
>protecting themselves against robbers and niggers with guns
This will never ever happen in your lifetime, OP. You are a gunfag who's bought into some pretty powerful NRA propaganda.
>>700734499
>>700733940
In the US, there are millions of gun owners, so why isn't there millions of gun deaths?
Most of the arguments on both sides in this thread suck ass
>>700734636
You don't even know what "militia" means. We pay professionals to figure OUT what the fathers meant by "militia", and even THEY don't know what the word means.
>>700734636
funny how you faggots think it's B
>>700734606
task fixation is scary as fuck
>>700734459
You only get racism and not "niggers are animals are should be treated as such" out of this?
>>700734261
But anon that man may have been mentally ill! The pig police officer shouldn't have restrained that man with physical force!
>>700734703
Fug ;D
>>700734703
There are.
>>700721479
What if i offend an american who carries a gun ? See ? Gun kills freedom of speech. Because everyone is afraid of everyone.
>>700734703
there are, just not every year
>>700733919
Pretty easy with the bayonet
>>700727129
>>700732269
That guy was an off duty police officer. Can provide source, not in English tho.
>>700733592
Reminds me of a story where a guy secretly recorded on video having sex with some girl he picked up at a night club. The next day the girl got spotted coming out of his place by some acquaintances and she claimed she was raped. It went to court and the guy was only able to prove his innocence (because everybody always believes the crying girl). The whole court could hear her saying ''yes yes, give it to me etc''. So he got off the charge of Rape but was then charged and convicted or making a secret intimate recording. This world...
>>700734361
Criminals have the most to gain from easily available weapons, thanks to the secondary market. Gun proliferation helps criminals far, far more than it helps the average person defend themself in those ultra rare cases.
If you're worried about criminals using guns, you should educate yourself on the best way to prevent that instead of thinking a childish Wild West approach is going to have a positive effect.
>>700734610
I know you are kidding, but guns are only used for fun by dumbass bored rednecks, or for killing. Knives are used for a lot of different things, but sometimes people kill with them. Regulating guns would be a lot smarter than regulating knives.
>>700734361
Good point. But facts be rayciss n' sheeeeit
>>700727256
I think it was a shotgun shell loaded with coarse salt
>>700734866
>millions of gun deaths
My sides
>>700734549
That would make sense to someone who is not three, but he only likes the damp washcloth. Wear condoms, young anons, unless you really want kids. I did/do, but shit makes you want to jump off a bridge sometimes.
>>700734824
>entire family lives in Rockford
>fiances family lives in Rockford
>I know so many people from Rockford
>and they are ALL actual racists
His grandfather was a neo-nazi for fucks sake. I had my cousin ask me "why are you dating a nigger?" Rockford is chock full of racists, and here you are proving my point.
>>700734497
Run nigga run!!!!
>>700734963
You honestly believe that. I honestly believe the thing that wields the "weapon" should be banned.
>>700734499
Quads infact.
>>700732965
and Trump will delete that first sentence
>>700734870
You can tell a gunfag what ever the fuck you want.
If they pull their gun on you, then you can have them charged with a violent felony. Nobody is going to be that stupid to risk their 2nd Amendment rights being stripped.
>>700734499
That's quads
>>700731279
yea, in the yellow bag, not his fucking hand. Shooting was unjustified.
>>700734962
As long as we have a war on drugs there will be criminals who seek guns. We need to end the war on drugs.
>>700734802
the British colonial tradition of militias was to give the colonist weapons to defend themselves rather than assigning the king's soldiers to defend a colony
so as far as anyone living in the US during the 1790s a militia was the entirety of the civilian population capable of wielding arms in defense of the town
Am I the only one that notices the complete lack of video evidence in this massive thread? You would think with all the surveillance in this world they would have captured more evidence to support this argument. But no, the same damn 10 webms everyone has seen already. Doesn't that say something?
.>>700731148
I have no problem with guns. That said, this is total fear mongering, us v them mentality, bullshit. You ARE the problem.
>>700735075
Do you regret your life choices at all?
I used to think I'd have kids by accident, eventually. Now I'm faced with an actual decision, and I don't know if I want them or not. My niece and nephew are total fucking nightmares.
>>700734870
No. That's just you being a pussy. We're not gonna shoot you over your words. And if you roll up into a ball at the sight of a weapon then that sounds like a personal problem
>>700734088
>"I swallowed the bullet"
>>700734703
>Approximately 1.4 million people have been killed by firearms in the U.S. between 1968 and 2011.[11]
>>700735079
>implying racism is bad
Oh boi
>>700734695
See
>>700734394
The rate of gun violence committed by white Americans is among the lowest in the world. Blacks and Mexicans commit all the crime why dont we just ban them instead?
>>700735386
mommy says nazi troll time on the computer is over
>>700734962
>Gun proliferation helps criminals far, far more than it helps the average person defend themself in those ultra rare cases.
Guns are used 500,000 to 3,000,000 times in self defense annually. At the very least the estimates are equal to the amount of times guns are used by criminals. They aren't rare you just think they are because you believe in sensationalism.
http://www.ncdsv.org/images/IOM-NRC_Priorities-for-Research-to-reduce-the-threat-of-firearm-related-violence_2013.pdf
>>700731279
So police should shoot anyone with a gun on their person?
Look out open carry assholes!
>>700735079
We hate niggers because they commit crime, that simple.
I have met nice blacks outside rockford, never once inside. All retarded, Middle school drop outs that commit crime for a living. I don't care if I'm racist, black people in Rockford are fucking evil.
>>700734692
These people are fucking mental. That's beyond overkill.
>>700735204
What ever shes shooting at.... she missed lmao
>>700735417
Racist of course
>>700731036
you missed the part where it says 6000+ handguns...
>>700735492
and let me guess, liberals are to blame for this
>>700735350
Not just the sight of a weapon but the sight of it pointing at me. Everyone's afraid of being dead.
next post is a sandnigger, tell him allahu ackbar
>>700721479
all these gifs are satisfying and all but it doesn't change the statistical fact that more people are killed with their own weapon being taken and used against them then have successfully stop a crime.
like just basic math
>>700735246
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_(United_States)
>The term militia in the United States has been defined and modified by Congress several times throughout U.S. history. As a result, the meaning of "the militia" is complex and has transformed over time.[1]
>Today, the term militia is used to describe a number of groups within the United States. Primarily, these are:
The organized militia defined by the Militia Act of 1903, which repealed section two hundred thirty-two and sections 1625 - 1660 of title sixteen of the Revised Statutes, consists of State militia forces, notably the National Guard and the Naval Militia.[2] The National Guard, however, is not to be confused with the National Guard of the United States, which is a federally recognized reserve military force of the U.S. Army and the U.S. Air Force, although the two are linked.
The reserve militia[3] are part of the unorganized militia defined by the Militia Act of 1903 as consisting of every able-bodied man of at least 17 and under 45 years of age who is not a member of the National Guard or Naval Militia.
No. No one knows 100% what the term "militia" means.
>>700729922
The awareness is strong with this negro
>>700733186
Are you banned in Google? Guns in France are not banned.
>>700734953
To be fair, innocence on one front doesn't excuse another law broken.
>>700731893
he's a vet, he didn't want to kill some guy right off the bat
law abiding gun owner to me
>>700734703
It doesn't have to be a large number to be a huge problem, anon
but you knew that
In 2010, gun violence cost U.S. taxpayers approximately $516 million in direct hospital costs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States
>>700735628
>citation needed
>>700730079
Are you going to be ok buttercup?
>>700734613
he is a rapper and did it for fame
>>700735246
Not him but I'm gonna end this one now till scotus changes their minds again. Scotus has held that "militia" means every fighting age male citizen of the US and the term "the people" means every individual US citizen. There. Now stfu about it. Not you specifically. Just everyone
>>700735628
Allah ackbar
>>700735347
Not at all, but I would encourage you to wait if you're not totally pumped at the idea. A little fear is normal, but if you are not in a good place and hope it will change your life for the better, then that is a red flag. Have kids when you are stable and feel ready. It's ok if that never happens.
And all kids are nightmares some of the time.
>>700727129
>>700735246
Then the 2nd Amendment needs to be scrapped and re-written to reflect modern day English.
>>700735417
Because minority crime statistics have nothing to do with gun related deaths. It's apples to oranges. Just like comparing gun related deaths to literally anything else in this country. Its apples to oranges every single time.
>>700735154
It'd be too late anyway i'd be dead in a second. Have you seen that pokemon go video that shows a guy entering a dark area and gunshots were heard as one man screams at the pokemon go players ? Everyone has guns even the mindless idiots with no moral
>>700735570
No? Black people just live in rockford and collect welfare of their 12 kids, commit crime, and lower property values by mere skin color. Don't see where libtards show up in this.
>>700735506
Who cares if its racist? Isn't the goal to stop gun violence? If you want to accomplish this you literally need to remove mexicans and blacks from society. Removing guns won't do anything.
>>700735383
compared to the 80 to 100 million gun owners
>>700735436
Prove it's bad then. I can't prove it's bad. If it was "bad" then why would exist? Dawinism would lead me to believe useful / beneficial behaviors would continue to exist. Maybe I'm wrong?
>>700735320
That's because the US doesn't have cctv every god damn where like the UK. And in big cities where they do carry is usually banned to the point that no one would be able to defend themselves.
>>700735027
if lil girls were trained like this /b/ would no exist
>>700735628
What video evidence? This thread is massive and there's barely anything posted aside from the 10 usual clips everyone's seen. That says something.
>>700735787
See
>>700734394
Notice the trolling has stopped.
>>700735320
not really because of this
Defensive gun uses > Defensive gun uses caught on tape > Defensive gun uses caught on tape release to a member of the public > DGU on tape released to the public who uploads the video to the internet > DGU on tape released to public who uploads video to internet found by 4chan user > 4chan user who decides to create a webm of the video > 4chan user who creates webm posts in this exact thread.
>>700735853
Muh chillens mufuggah
>>700729821
i find this unfair, i usually cheer for people killing bad guys but seriously, killing someone for that...
>>700735542
That image is directed at the people who basically say the AR15 is the single most used rifle for violent crime in the US and should be banned accordingly.
>>700735584
So now we're just randomly brandishing. You're a special kinda retarded.
>>700735505
i think shes trying to make a sandwich, she putting too much mayo on that shit yo
>>700735320
>not enough memes
Is this really your argument dude?
>>700735930
Actually, others are trolling nicely, I see. My bad.
>>700735640
>No. No one knows 100% what the term "militia" means.
currently
because progressive congressional fucks have newspeaked the fuck out of US legal English
but, as I said contrary to the post I replied to
AT THE TIME
militia was a very specific term used to describe armed civilians mounting a military defense
>>700735914
That still doesn't account for the 10 million convenience stores with cameras. Surely more would have been leaked.
>>700735889
It's bad, faggot. You are judging a fellow human being based on the color of their skin.
You wouldn't know because you've never been discriminated in your entire life. No, Mom punishing you by making you go to your room isn't "discrimination."
>>700729922
i don't understand who was the good or the bad here
>>700735675
Naturally. And ultimately it is the clerk's decision to shoot or not. All I can do express what I think what should have happened and respect the clerk's decision at the same time.
>>700735672
Youre right. He should have gone to prison for 10 years unable to defend his conviction -.-
>>700728850
You need to Google chicago's statistics. Get some perspective.
Maybe then we can ban assault niggers.
>>700735748
Maybe he should get fame by, i dont know, being a good rapper?
People are fucked up, man.
>>700735774
>in a good place
that's where my panic attacks come from. I see how much money she's had to pay to keep them afloat, with no college degree or steady paying job and it terrifies me. I can't afford to go back to school, and having kids ruins peoples hopes and dreams for the future. I won't be able to do a damn thing about affording their diapers for AT LEAST the next 4-5 years of my life. Minimum. Then I get to deal with their bullshit for the next 18 years of my life, minimum. What if the father and I break up? He doesn't even have an education either. We can barely afford to feed ourselves for at least the next half a decade.
>>700736155
>You are judging a fellow human being based on the color of their skin.
No, they are being judged on their behavior. Niggers behave badly.
Ban assault niggers, ha. /thread
>>700736006
Look, the possibility of an idiot pulling out his gun is super high in america. And that's not okay.
>>700730308
How do you know who's money it was? Maybe he was the owner maybe just a loyal employee. But that doesn't matter. That criminal pointed a gun at the clerk, should he have waited to see if he was bluffing or not by seeing if he got shot? I wouldn't take that chance.
>>700736155
Yep. I'm glad you know my life and human nature so well you make baseless assumptions on the Internet. I can't actually believe you think this.
Fuck I've been trolled. Gg no re
>>700735914
>cctv
Anon has a point, y'all have some SERIOUS Big Brother shit going on across the pond. But I mean it's working so who am I to judge?
