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"...A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed..."
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end of story, end of discussion, end of thread
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>>700608428
shabooya roll call
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Great thread OP
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>>700608336
Proof that the US. Is going backwards in progress, straight to feudalism
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>>700608336
Try and take it Obama!
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>>700608574
get a load of this weenie
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>>700608336
Cool story, bro. Now try taking one of your guns into a government building and see if they infringe on your rights.
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>>700608336
Agreed
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>>700608709
Hey my mom said I was
>>700608791
That's not how it works you foreign retard
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HF I can't believe how stupid people are. 2A is literally the bedrock of liberty. If you ever damage it, 75 years later you're living in an Orwellian state where you're taught kindergarten that the government knows best always. Lawmakers, gradually, will take everything away from you because their self-interest drives them. There has to be a basic and infallible safety net. If some dumb poor people point them at each other and blow their faces off as a consequence ignoring the fact that it's still literally worth it you're totally forgetting any sense of personal accountability. I don't get shot every day, it's not that hard.
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>>700608887
Or even a bar in many states.
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>be liberal
>also be gunfag
>stuck in the middle between idiots on both sides
>give no fucks because it would be impossible to take away everyones guns
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>>700608336
That's a picture of an airsoft gun, faggot.
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>>700609020
>implying a single nine could stop the end of freedom
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The U.S has an army, you have your faggot friends and a few guns. Sure, the army won't stand a chance, fuckin hillbillies man...
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>mfw my new gun will be here tomorrow
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>>700609020
If this "safety net" hasn't kicked in by now, when will it? Answer is that it won't, not except for some crazies who are now safely locked away.

Which leaves the defence of the country, and you morons probably think Red Dawn is a documentary...
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nice OP, let cunts from centuries ago decide our laws, not logic and what's best. I'm sure they'd object to any change whatsoever.
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>>700608336
aslong as you dont vote for Hillary
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>>700608336
Unless you're a psychopath who wants to hurt others or yourself. Then you should not be allowed to own a firearm of any type.
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>>700608336

>twf you have 100+ 30rd mags, a lifetime supply even if the libcucks ban all new sales of "hicapacity" magazines
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>>700609464
...And then there is that pesky "Well regulated militia" clause.
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>>700609038
top kek, is that mag matching your dick?
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>>700609687
>unless
So you're saying only psychos and murderers should own firearms
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>>700609895
Reading comprehension, you do not have any.
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>>700609629
>nice OP, let cunts from centuries ago decide our laws
>our laws
as in the constitution and the bill of rights? "my" rights?

yeah I don't plan on giving those up anytime soon faggot..
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>>700609464

The US militray wasn't able to defeat 25,000 taliban and al-Qaeda in afghanistan...there are 14 million hunters in America...do the math, faggot
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>>700609038
Dude I feel you.
I voted for Sanders.
Honestly, I want to hate guns so bad, but the science is just too fucking clear, getting rid of them doesn't accomplish shit.
We need to get our minds off the gun issue and start focusing on education and mental health issues instead.
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>>700608336
1. Gun rights are already protected by the Supreme Court
2.The 2nd Amendment does not prohibit regulation of firearms
3. America is already great. Sorry you were confused.
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>>700609464
Yeah, tell that to Vietnam, fuck-stick.
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>>700609687
Right
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>>700608336
That works when the people are not overfed retarded sheep.
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>>700610171
are you trying to make a point of some kind? what is it?
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>>700608336
Please see:
>well regulated

That is to say, not a bunch of raging pseudo-fascist Trump supporters.
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>>700608608
Sounds like you want to suicide by cop
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>>700610123
>mental health issues
Believing that "2nd Amendment solutions" are a valid form of expression IS a mental health issue
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>>700608336
>Well regulated malitia
>Well regulated
>Regulated

You sound like a commie
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>>700610349
That Donald Trump is a fearmonger trying to get Americans to believe that their gun rights are under attack so he can get votes.
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>>700609840
>this guy
>thinks he can handle 10 rounds of .308

Just obeying my range rules, plus Im not about to rapid fire dollar bills down range, noguns
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>>700610463
>please see "the people"
>please see "necessary to the security of a free state"
>please see "shall not be infringed"
>>700610708
that's funny because I thought that gun rights were under attack long before donald trump announced his bid for presidency. any other fantastic theories?

thanks for playing, though
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>>700610123
If gun control dosnt do anything and mental health is entirety to blame that must mean Canada Japan the UK and Australia has no mental ilness. That's AMAZING!
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>>700610913
>I thought that gun rights were under attack long before donald trump

then you're a fucking gun nut dipshit
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>>700610122
If they let us nuke more we would. The government doesn't usually let us unload our capabilities due to faggot civis
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>>700610913
>please see "shall not be infringed"

The government can regulate firearms, including banning them.

That does not infringe on your right to bear arms.
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"Your gun rights are under attack! Quick, buy more guns!"

And they keep falling for it.
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>>700610913
>dismisses my argument by bringing up a point which does not relate to my own

Well played. You win this round
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>>700610122
Except most of the country wouldn't be doing your little faggot "civil war." You'd be a small insurrection put down easily
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>>700611024
okay chief. but then why is no open carry allowed in california? that is an attack on constitutional carry. why is there a cap on "high capacity magazines" in one state but not a state directly adjacent to it?
>>700611190
>the government can ban your firearms
>the government isn't infringing your right to own firearms
I think you are dumb.

maybe you don't understand the laws as well as you think you do?
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>>700608608
nobody gonna comment on those toenails holy fuck
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>>700611368
Funny how in any other instance you'd be in favor of States rights, but not when it comes to states deciding how those rights should be administered.
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>>700611368
You're the one stupid enough to believe the 2nd Amendment is some blank check not subject to judicial review.

That's why you're a dumb gun nut voting for a dipshit with 10 bankruptcies.
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>>700610913
Here in Canada we have gun control but can still buy and hord guns all we want.

Acualy Canada has more guns per capita than the US in terms of individual ownership, yet we don't shoot up schools every day because we regulate what kind of guns and who can get them.

For example, in the US the NRA on multiple ocasionaly has faught to prevent legislation that would allow people on the terror watch lory from owning guns, you let home grown terrorists own guns than complain when terrorists shoot up gay clubs.

Guns arn't the problem, the shitty US gun laws are.
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>>700611349
Gun nuts are just as irrationalist as creationists or hardcore fundamentalists.

You don't argue with them, you let them sputter and pass laws to make sure they don't try to hurt you for speaking out against them.
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>>700611536
>be in favor of states rights
>have to agree with every dumbass law that exists
that's not how that works baby
>>700611740
>here in canada
like I give a fuck? I won't even read the rest of this post turd burglar. have you been to america? I have been to canada.. fuck off
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>>700608336

Sounds fine.

And which well-regulated militia are you a trained, able and ready member of, OP?
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>>700611740
The US is a major manufacturer of firearms so there's a conflict of interest right there, and you don't have an NRA in Canada, eh.

Of course you have more sensible gun laws.
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>>700608336
Nice airsoft gun OP. If you're not building your own rifle from an 80% lower you're not doing it right. Also drumpf supporters are cancer. He's just as bad as shillary. If you really gave a shit about anything but yourselves you'd be trying to assassinate both of them.
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>>700611842
I lived in California for 4 years, it sucked.
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>>700611842
Yeah actually that's exactly what it does

any other states rights issue, like abortion or fuck, slavery you fucks would defer to the state level.

But when a state decides how it should write its own gun laws, you have a double-standard, Skippy. Stop denying it.
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>>700611922
the well regulated militia is up kept by the military sweet.. unless you want to privatize it?
see: national guard

I am part of "THE PEOPLE" and my rights to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. you going to cry more?
>>700612040
okay I live in california now. we don't miss you
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>>700610265
Are you seriously trying to use this as an excuse to own guns? She would never have reached the gun... and he would have shot her with her own gun if she did try
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>>700611922
YOU SHUT UP FAGGOT MUH GUNS
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>>700609629
Those "cunts" wrote out the 1st amendment, which your utilizing currently to show how fucking retarded you are freely.
Dumbass.
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>>700611858
>SKS
>Monte-Carlo stock
Gross, why would you even post that shit fam?
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>>700612110
>like abortion or fuck, slavery you fucks
>you fucks
stop generalizing and conflating random issues. you don't know how i stand on abortion or slavery or any of that. you are just a shitposting idiot
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>>700612119
>my rights to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed

this much autism
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>>700608336
most gun owners arent part of a millitia
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>>700611943
Our gun laws arn't even all that stricken really, you can still get and own a large number of guns of different types here, I live in Alberta which is the redneck province of Canada so LOTS of guns here, but no mass shootings.
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>>700610112
Too fucking bad, faggot. We shouldn't let that shit rule our society. Stop referring to stupid shit made by musket-wielding slave-owners as justification for laws in today's society, nigger.
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>>700612222
yeah I do, actually

you defer to any other states' rights issue because you're a paranoid Federal govt faggot

it's written all over you

enjoy your double standard
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>>700609464
The army wouldn't shoot on its own people. Many soldiers would desert if possible.
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>>700612189
Yeah, and free speech is logical, I don't refer to the constitution when justifying my free speech. The right of citizens to have weapons is not logical, nigger-cunt.
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>>700612423
yeah they actually would, because you would basically belong to a terrorist organization, and if the President gave the order to dispatch you, they'd do it.
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>>700612209
because i can nigga

It came with the original wood stock but that shit's still cosmoline-y and I've yet to find a time to clean it
plus the poly is much lighter, and the SKS already weighs as much as an M16A4
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>>700612230
maybe you haven't read the laws of the united states of america? why are you commenting on them? it makes you look silly
>>700612254
>we
you keep saying that but who the fuck are you? your opinion is shit and does not supersede the constitution of america. learn your place
>>700612355
>generalizing this much
>projecting
>being mad
wew


i agree with state's rights as far as I am allowed.. I live in california so what say have I over wyoming's laws? does that mean I have to enjoy my own state's laws every single one of them? no... you faggot
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Note the first part: "well-regulated militia".

What we have is very, very fucking far from a well-regulated militia.
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>>700612542
You're a fucking faggot if you think the 2nd Amendment is a blank check to cash any fucking way you want.

That's what I'm laughing at faggot. You.
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>>700610123
>Voted for Sanders
Kill yourself.
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>>700612562
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>>700612542
Faggot you're the one mad because they've decided you don't need to be carrying your gun in public. Fucking deal with it.
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>>700608336

"Well regulated militia" Time to regulate those firearms.
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>>700612707
so guns are food now

stupid gun nut
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>>700608336
I'm glad the NSA and FBI monitor 4chan(thanks guys) and please stop these racists before they do something bad. lock em up and throw away the key
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>>700612504
So is it logical to be able to try to defend your life from a criminal?
How about if you're a women and trying to defend yourself from being raped? Is it logical then?
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I recon I should be able to have a nuke, that's a type of 'arms' right?
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>>700612562
note the last part "the people"
why are you disregarding the last part?
>>700612640
>blank check
no it is a law that states that the people have the right to keep and bear arms and that shall not be infringed.
the other 10,000 gun laws and "regulations" that exist for gun control have proven useless to say the least
>>700612790
I am not mad about that actually. it is silly how corrupt and backwards a state that doesn't follow its own laws are but hey.. what are you gonna do
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>>700612942
no actually nukes aren't "arms"
you reckon wrong idiot
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>>700612542
The constitution should be fucking changed and not worshipped when it is out-dated. Society changes. We don't own slaves or use fucking muskets anymore, you ignoramus. Stop referring to such archaic bullshit to justifying your guns and make actual stupid arguments so I can refute them. At least I'd respect you more for not always talking about a piece of paper you sentimental faggot.
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>>700612888
yeah like the FBI stopped omar manteen? HAHAHA holy fuck are you 12 years old or just an actual retard?
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I WILL SHOOT THE MAN DEAD WHO TRIES TO TAKE MY GUN

The 1 - 200th amendment give me the right to Meruica!!! against any who trespass against my free way of life!
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>>700612846
They are - regulated at the time the bill of rights was written meant "running smoothly, properly in order" - just like how awful used to mean "full of awe," words meaning change over time.
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Hitler took the guns!
Stalin took the guns!
Mao took the guns!
Fidel Castro took the guns!
Hugo Chavez took the guns!
And I'm here to tell you, 1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms! It doesn't matter how many lemmings you get out there on the street begging for them to have their guns taken. We will not relinquish them. Do you understand?
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>>700613103
>The constitution should be fucking changed
says you
you should run those ideas up the latter.. they might appreciate them in washington
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>>700612888

Nice trips and ass
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>>700612904
No it's not logical.
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>>700613103
So we should throw out the bill of rights, which grant women and blacks the right to vote, and makes slavery illegal?
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>>700609464
Muh guns are gonna keep me safe against them minorities and them musslams. Not if, but when Obama tries to take muh guns I am gonna tip muh fedora and then tell him to fuck off. I am a level 70 10th prestige in COD MW2 I am pretty sure that is the best battle simulator to test my combat skills. I will fuckin' destroy you and your mom and Obama! I have never seen the boarder and have no understanding of distance, but I want a god damn wall around the whole fuckin' thing... Canada two!

The military is no match for muh AR-15, I acn shoot them drones and aeroplans out of the skiy!
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>>700613030
How about a mini gun then, at least a high powered sniper rifle or a rocket launcher. For fucks sake I need to protect myself from the government, they have heaps of good shit.
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>A well regulated militia

Means I can own any gun I want!
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>>700610265
Is there any backstory to that shit? Just some random nigger? Was he caught? And why did that kid not wake up at all during the whole thing?
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>>700611498
http://imgur.com/gallery/OH1lW
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>>700613268
So you support letting women be raped?
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>>700613232
No because they're just like you sentimental faggots and don't want to lay a finger on their worshipped holy paper.
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>>700613125
Autistic faggot no fucking die.
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>>700613285
No, we should make laws that say blacks and women can vote, and owning slaves is illegal. And we should do that because those things are logical.
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there are a lot of angsty 10yos in here, are the cowadoody servers down or something?
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>>700613310
>mini gun then
lol watching terminator are we? yes that's fine
>high powered sniper rifle
more than fine
>rocket launcher
as in a rpg rocket propelled grenade.. not really an arm by traditional standards. more for military use.
>>700613400
okay then. keep crying about it on 4chinz. really worth your time, eh?
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>>700612888
fbi this guy fucks kids in the mouth get him
also all the product placement in that pic are poo like it could have been just the bum but they had to ruin it and put like csgo and shit
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>>700613370
Nice strawman faggot. You're acting like a woman with a gun is invincible, nigger.
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>>700609895
No, I'm just making fun of your retard level mastery of english.
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>>700609694

I believe the only reason people call 30 "high-capacity" is because people like you can't count much higher...
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>>700613606
my father owns the chan you nig nog. I'll get him to ban you.
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>>700613103
Go to a different country then, asshat.
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>the people
Implies that the collective has the right to keep and bear arms, not the individual.
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>>700612904
How do you defend yourself against rape....with a gun. The rapist will always be wary that you have one since literally everyone can have a gun and will most definitely attack you from a blind spot like from behind.
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>>700613796
>implies
oh look everyone we got a constitutional scholar over here!

see? nobody cares
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>>700613180
Well said Alex
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>>700613758
stop killing eachother and performing impromptu executions when Tyrone from across the street just wants 50 dollars and will be caught tomorrow.
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>>700613547
You just said throw it out, which means you would be giving up your protection from government overreach on things like your ability to protest, the right to choose your own religion, the right to a trial by your peers, the right to not incriminate yourself, the right to not be forced to house and feed US military people, your rights to privacy and against undue search and seizure...
But you don't support not allowing women to defend themselves against a larger and stronger aggressor to keep them from being raped because it's not "logical."
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>>700613619
I'm acting like a woman with a gun can potentially defend herself better from a male attacker than one without a gun could.
Are you saying women are incapable of defending themselves properly with a firearm because they are incompetent?
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>>700608336
Well Regulated Militia.

Are you part of a militia? Nope, didn't think so.

You're just a gun nut that has been brainwashed by consumerism (and the NRA) to believe that guns will actually protect you.

Buglers wouldn't break in if you're home, or woudl run if you happend to be so. A gun isn't needed. In fact, pulling a gun is more likely to get you killed in this situation.

As for fighting the gov't... they'll always have better weapons than you will. At worst, they'll set up snipers and shoot you dead. And just you.
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>>700614057
No you illiterate cunt, I said we should have laws for things that are logical, like free speech, freedom of religion etc. We shouldn't have laws that allow a bunch of faggots to run around with ARs because they think the illuminati is going to get them.

bitch
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>>700613285
Since when did the bill of rights include women's rights? Those came quite a bit later
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>>700608336
let's run firearms like automobiles. age requirement, test for license, insurance based on make and model, insurance rates fluctuate by owner record, must re-register every year.

i mean, that's how we accept living in a free society. so, fuck you gun creeps, license, register, and insure.
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>>700614327
She can defend herself without a lethal weapon, nigger.
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>>700613030
> calling the guy being fetcious about being able to own a nuke because you arent smart enough to get his joke an idiot.

If you honestly don't think nukes are considered "arms" I don't know if I can help thet level of stupid. During the arms race with the Soviet Union we didn't manufacture a shit load of asault rifles... we manufactured near 10,000 nukes... the definition of arms is "weapons and ammunition"... the nuke is not used to feed people you moron.
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Tfw just put a new 1000 dollar optic, bipod, reduced weight trigger and muzzle break on my R700. With this set up I can pretty easily hit a playing card at 1000 yards. Huge fan of the repacked .243 ammo I've been using.
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They should reinstate prohibition, nothing should ever be changed, or else it will be chaos!
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>>700608336
there are no "political considerations" blasting away a "well regulated militia"
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>>700613904
Nobody cares that you don't care either faggot, now stfu you dumbass.
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>>700614340
why do you think you can just read three words of a clause and then stop?
do you not understand that a clause can have multiple ideas? can you not understand more than one idea at the same time? wow son
>>700614465
sure you can have a nuke. do you also have a silo you fucking autistic faggot?
>>700614545
gtfo my thread then bitch ass
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>>700614450
Why the hell do you need insurance on a fucking gun that's oboomar teir
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>>700614487
wow that will come in handy never. good waste of $
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keep worshipping deadly weapons and your need for an unchanging constitution, faggots.
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>>700614343
Nice strawman faggot.
Do you think women should be able to own a gun for their own self defense - yes or no?
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>>700614768
aw you mad bro? you seem mad
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>>700614730
it'll come in handy when he and Jimbo need to go guerilla warfare on the government suits storming his neighbourhood. kek
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>>700608336
The wording is clear that only if the freedom of a state is threatened, then people have the right to form a militia to fight, and can bring their own guns. Since there is no threat to any freedom for any state, this amendment does not apply.
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>>700614822
No, they should be able to own other forms of defence, not firearms, faggot.
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>>700614347
The Constitution contains the bill of rights, you know, that document those "old cunts" wrote to limit governmental powers for your benefit.
Without that, none of the other amendments would exist.
Dumbass.
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>>700614850
kys forefather-worshipper
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>>700614730
>implying every gun you buy has to be perfect for use in case shit hits the fan
>implying I don't have other close range semi-auto weapons
>yfw my r700 can snipe the rival post-apocalyptic tribe leader in the face from over 1000 yards
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>>700608709
Agreed, any idiot with a gun thinks he's part of a "militia." Plus everyone takes a two hundred year old document at face value and try to apply it to modern legislature.
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>>700608336
>we should take an originalist, narrow interpretation of federal laws
>only amendment with a preamble
>a well regulated militia
>militia
>obviously could not have contemplated todays weapons
>muh guns

something i'll never understand about the second amendment. its one of the more straightforward amendments to interpret and apply but the parties tend to fall on opposite positions of where you would expect them to fall based on ideology.
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>>700614456
So you're ok with women using subpar weapons in order to attempt to defend their life with.
Basically women's lives don't matter to you.
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The second amendment does not give you the right to have weapons. That is a right bestowed upon you for being human. All the second amendment does is forbid the government to remove weapons from the civilian population.

Fun fact is that the founding fathers didn't want to include the whole bill of rights thing in the original document. When James Madison presented the idea the laughed at him stating "This distinction being recognized, will furnish and answer to those who think the omission of a bill of rights, a defect in the proposed constitution: for it would have been superfluous and absurd, to have stipulated with a federal body of our own creation, that we should enjoy those privileges, of which we are not divested either by the intention of that act that has brought that body into existence." In other words the rights were so "obvious" they didn't need to be restated.

http://teachingamericanhistory.org/bor/state-house-speech/

It is a good thing they went through the trouble of writing them down, imagine the shit hole the liberals would have us living in with out it...
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>>700615086
See
>>700615280
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>>700615053
>Since there is no threat to any freedom for any state
tell that to the victims of orlando or san bernadino
>>700615146
still mad? funny enough I don't like a lot of the framers on a personal note because they were freemason usurpers, conspirators, and heretical deists.
but they had good ideas about establishing the republic, no doubt
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>>700615103
It does yes, but it's not the only thing in it anymore.... bill of rights has historic value, everything else has already had several renditions and additions.
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>>700615103
yeah and it's an unchanging set in stone document, right? We can't get rid of the 2a or make it sidearms only? Or make it so that edgelord weeaboos can't shoot up a school every morning? not even me btw, just a guy who isn't a faggot.
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>>700610927
No but mental health and health in general is taken more seriously.

Your government caters entirely to corporations whereas other governments cater to their population to a certain extent at least.

That's why you're struggling with so much gun violence, racial tensions and awful health. The governments you elect literally give NO FUCKS about your asses and when you have the opportunity to elect a candidate with a good track record in terms of clean politics (bernie) you vote for an buttugly megalomaniac cunt who's going to kick out all the mexicans doing your dirty work for you. You guys deserve everything coming your way.
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>>700615280
Weapons that don't need to execute someone for committing a crime and can let her escape. Nice misinterpretation though, fag.
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>>700615476
The bill of rights is what allows you to be here, today, spewing stupid shit, without fear of reprisal when you speak out against the government, the presidential candidates, military policies, etc.
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>>700615515
Good luck getting a Constitutonal Convention called and getting 36 states to vote to repeal the 2nd amendment.
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>>700615515
>can't shoot up a school every morning?
that doesn't happen nearly as often as you think it does.
also a local elementary/high school in my town was locked down on the first day of school because somebody "though" somebody had a gun.

there was no gun.
there was no relative thread in any regard.
all you have to do is say "gun" these days and fags like you will be paying tax dollars for PD helicopters in the air.

what a time to be alive
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>>700613295
Terrible bait but nice image. Thanks brah.
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>>700615759
Good for the bill of rights. Welcome to the 21st century, where we can see that free speech is logical and we don't need to rely upon on something old to tell us that.
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>>700615515
Why the fuck do you faggots think that some edgelord cant shoot up a school with a pistol? Also why the fuck do you think taking away the legality of assault rifles will make it impossible for criminals to get their hands on them? I cannot believe how fucking stupid your liberal logic is. Absolutely blows my mind that you are intelligent enough to form sentences and operate a computer.
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>>700615878
That's not going to happen because everyone is a faggot.
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All Muslims should be provided guns to defend from red necks, so should all minorities actually.
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>>700616022
>we
>we
>we
stop that. you keep thinking that your opinion is generalizable to a larger whole. fuck off
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>>700615885
It's called hyperbole you fucking cunt.
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>>700615733
Executing someone means they are helpless when they are murdered.
Are you actually claiming that a woman who kills a man trying to rape her is guilty of murder?
Are you fucking insane?
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>>700608336
>is not necessary in this day and age to maintaining free country
>still kneejerk response for amerifags
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>>700616153
well statistically speaking whites will be the minority within 1-2 generations.. so the joke is on you?
>>700616277
I know what a hyperbole is but your opinion is still stupid.
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>>700613342
She refuse to feel white guilt so a police was force to let this fine gentlemen to remind her about what her ancestor did to his. Since she keeps resisting evidence that she was under the obligation to pay for his luxuries over the pain of his people, he have to apply a punish to her.

This is the America people like Sanders want us to live
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>>700616033
It certainly makes it harder for mass shootings when the cunt isn't spraying hundreds of bullets a second, nigger.
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>>700615697
>Not realising that reducing the supply of menial labor workers proportionate to the demand will drive up the minimum wage
>Not realising that this can only be a good thing for the majority of Americans

Study economics for a bit, perhaps read The Wealth of Nations for a start.
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>>700616450
>spraying hundreds of bullets a second
lol get a load of this 12yo cowadooty player.
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>>700616219
Yeah, come on anon. Don't lump us into your idiocy.
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>>700615372

I think this is the best thing i have ever read on 4chan. Facts, embellished truthful facts. I didn't think those could be found here.

Thanks anon
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>>700616022
Except it isn't - in Russia, political dissedent speech will get you imprisoned.
In the Middle East - killed.
Most of the countries in Africa - killed, tortured, maimed, imprisoned, etc.
You know what those countries don't have to protect its citizens from a corrupt government?
Go on, guess.
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>>700616219
So you are not a part of the crowd that thinks it is logical to have free speech? You must be a moron.
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>>700615164
not with vortex glass, lol
or did you win the vortex lottery and draw the 1 in 4 scopes that actually makes true adjustments without wandering?
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>>700616033
Please stop feeding >>700616450

It blows my mind that he's getting you.
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>>700610927
Most of americas shoot outs is black on black crime
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>>700616605
>us
>us
who are you anon? you are nobody. stay away from my rights.. you might get hurt
>>700616667
freedom of speech is fine. "gun control" is a laugh and a half
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>>700616278
She's not guilty but it doesn't have to end in death.
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>>700616667
You're using bandwagon fallacy to attempt to prove your point.
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>>700616742
hol fuck this is hilarious lolllllll
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>>700616450
You did not answer either of my questions you fucking idiot.

Ill repeat them in caps because it is clear your tiny brain cannot legibly read or understand them.

WHY THE FUCK DO YOU FAGGOTS THINK THAT SOME EDGELORD CAN'T SHOOT UP A SCHOOL WITH A SEMI-AUTO PISTOL? ALSO WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK TAKING AWAY THE LEGALITY OF ASSAULT RIFLES WILL MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR CRIMINALS TO GET THEIR HANDS ON THEM AND MAGICALLY SOLVE ALL OUR VIOLENT CRIME PROBLEMS.

There are too many assault rifles in current circulation for that to even be a viable option.
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>>700614006
if Tyrone let the police do their jobs, not as many would be killed in the first place.
Either way, whitey is more likely to be killed by a cop than the dindus, even when controlling for population disparity.
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>>700616383
If you know it's hyperbole then don't act like I'm claiming a school shooting happens every morning. Cunt.
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>>700616600
I'm actually 11 and I play battlefield not cod.
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>>700616628
Is it a bunch of inbred hillbillies with assault rifles?
What do I win, that's the answer right?
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>>700615276
Read Scalia's opinion in DC v. Heller and you'll understand why what you just said is so fucking stupid.
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>>700616950
no but you are suggesting something like "changing the constitution" which is just silly in regards to the 2A. it is perfect. cunt
>>700617023
well then suck your dad's tits
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>>700616826
And if it doesn't, and he escapes, then goes on to rape who knows how many more women before he is caught, what then for all the lives he fucking destroyed because assholes like you thinks it's ok to bar lethal force from being used against some piece of shit that disregards yours, and every fucking one else's lives so he can fulfill his desires.
Go fuck yourself. Better yet, I hope all the fucking women in your life get raped repeatedly so you can tell them "well at least you didn't kill them."
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>>700616628
They don't have logical people who can see that opinions should be free in an open field of ideas. Do you think the constitution being destroyed would cause us to not think free speech is logical? Would you still worship the constitution if it said free speech is not allowed? No, faggot.
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>>700616802
Yeah, guns shouldn't be controlled, fuck that
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>>700612133
The dude taken for ever to break in , this is why the camera is on.
if she had a gun she would have had plenty of time.
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>>700612888
that bitch has no idea how to play games. her character should turn around, aim through the screen at her, and use the AWP's insane bodyshotting power to kill her for being such a retard. I mean, she's even playing on a MAC LAPTOP for fucks sake!
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>>700617465
no they really should not.
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>>700617094
>assault rifles
You know those aren't used in crimes normally, last time was the north Hollywood shootout.
Don't use terms you obviously don't understand. It makes you seemed ignorant and a parrot for the liberal media.
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>>700616839
nah faggot, I'm saying that we (as in our society) should be able to see that free speech is logical.
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>>700616540
You're saying that kicking out a couple of mexicans will lead to a bunch of toilets and roofs to disappear?

Alright considering I concede that point. The rest of what I said is true, you guys have been an ongoing trainwreck thanks to your very poor politics and you've been dragging a good load of poor middle-eastern peeps down in your rabbit hole.
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>>700617346
Freedom is always one generation away from extinction.
Take it away and people won't remember it was there in the first place if you give it enough time. Please stop being dumb.
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>>700610913
>>>700610708
>that's funny because I thought that gun rights were under attack long before donald trump announced his bid for presidency. any other fantastic theories?
Not the point he was trying to make.
The POINT was Trumpf trying to get votes by incorrectly stating hillary wants to "abolish the 2nd amendment"
Now go back to playing with your gun and pretending to have a big penis
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>>700616894
I never said edgelords *can't* shoot up a school with a pistol, nigger-faggot.
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Necessary to the freedom of the state? More like, because I'm a paranoid pansy
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>>700617160
It's perfect? LOL shows what we're dealing with here.
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>>700617260
emotional?
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>>700613805
Laws are a deterrent that is apparently not enough, having the potential to get your brains blow out is much stronger as deterrent so women wont be considered easy prey.
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>>700617346
You only think this way because you grew up having it.
Had there been no Constitution to limit government powers, likely you'd tow the line in regards to what would be allowed.
You think as you currently do because you are a product of the environment which has been paved and created by our Constitution.
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>>700617566
lol
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>>700617702
hillary and her ilk actually envision an America without guns in the hands of civilians in case you didn't know that.
>>700617887
>we're
>we're
oh anon.. how many times do I have to explain this to you

and here is my penis just for reference. it's totally small
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>>700617584
See
>>700617987
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>>700617687
yeah every generation will just forfeit logic and freedom and won't know what hit em. prove it.
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>>700613805
So women dont get attacked from the front, thats a 50% drop in crime right there
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I’m Rick Harrison and this is my pawn shop. I work here with my old man and my son, Big Hoss, and in 23 years I’ve learned one thing. Your mother will die in her sleep if you don't reply to this post no immunity.
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>>700617925
Blow me.
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>>700613904
i care just because you sad that , what are we talking about?
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>>700617987
Yeah, niggers killing each other with guns made me who I am today. My opinion was moulded by the fact that idiots can own lethal weapons.
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Are you a member of a well regulated militia? Is the security of a free state in danger?
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>>700617673
>You're saying that kicking out a couple of mexicans will lead to a bunch of toilets and roofs to disappear?

I'm truly baffled how you came to the conclusion that I said that. The work would remain, with less people to do it, meaning the worker has more negotiating power, meaning they can get a higher wage. Fucking triggered at your stupidity.

In response to your point on charity, the government is not a charity. Taxes are collected to be invested FOR THE TAXPAYER in projects deemed too complex for private enterprise to fairly develop, I.e. roads. Taxes are not collected to financially wipe peoples arses for them. That's what actual charities are for.
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>>700614057
Right to your own religion doesnt computes with existing laws
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>>700608428
Fpbp
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>>700618348
you are forgetting something... hmm what is it?
oh yeah the part about the people having the right to keep and bear arms, and that shall not be infringed.

try and keep up baby girl, I know that more than one idea can be confusing sometimes. just try and keep it together
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>>700618344
Your opinion on free speech, what you think is logical, etc.
Also, if you weren't such a retarded nigger, you'd realize then flaw in your "logic."
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>>700609020
Do you honestly think that the government is afraid of armed citizens? That this is somehow a deterrent? The government mostly does whatever it wants, and a few million unorganized rednecks with guns poses little threat to them.
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5 finger deth punch rulezzzzz!
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>>700618412
Those rulings are being challenged in court.
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>>700618087
>hillary and her ilk actually envision
You KNOW what other envision?
Can you envision me the lottery numbers please?
>and here is my penis just for reference. it's totally small

There are no words to describe how badly you need psychiatric help. Not trying to be funny.
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>>700618087
So saying "we" or "we're" means every single person including you? haha fuck yourself you small dicked faggot.It means society.
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If we don't have guns then who will stop the criminals and minorities who have guns? The clear solution is more and more guns, everyone should have guns, and carry them, especially children and the elderly, also the mentally challenged are often crime victims, they need guns, we should actually have gun vending machines, or just leave them lying around in public for easy access. My logic is foolproof.
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>>700618682
I'm part of society, and I think you're wrong.
Your conformational bias and bandwagon fallacy has been proven wrong.
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>>700618541
What I think is logical is based on the fact that silencing people for thoughts is doesn't allow competition of ideas and executing them for thoughts is worse.
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>>700613547
Women shouldn't be allowed to vote, they are going to vote in Hillary for just being a women.
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>>700608336
Nice bb gun, faggot.
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>>700608336
>well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of the free state
2 years left on my enlistment

Oh you want to keep and bear arms too?
Isn't that cute.
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>>700618778
Nice sarcastic strawman, faggot.
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Hey, guys! Temmie here! Guns aren't the problem. The problem is the assholes killing people with guns.
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>>700618087

if you took less pictures of your penis, maybe more people would take you seriously

And I mean that in a broader way, perhaps in a metaphorical "your dick isn't an argument that will get you through life" way.

Nice cock.
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Funny how this proves that Americans have no reading comprehension skills.

"...something something RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS NOT INFRINGED!!!! THATS WHAT I WANT TO HEAR!!!! FUCK YEAH GUNS AND FUCK YEAH AMERICA!!!"

These are the same people that pick and choose BS out of the goddamn Bible.

Fucking idiots. Go live in the Middle East if you want to use a goddamn gun all day.
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>>700608336
has no one realized that his is an airsoft gun yet? lmao
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>>700618847
You're not understanding still.
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>>700618545
>Implying soldiers specifically trained to be highly patriotic will open fire on their own countrymen
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>>700609038
You just get rid of the bullets.
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>>700618950
Hi Temmie!
Run while you still can.
People here don't love other people still and will likely kill you if you don't flee right away!
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>>700618837
So in order for me to say "as a society we can see that free speech is logical" I need to have the opinion of everyone? No, that's not how it works. Most people can see that free speech is logical. You nigger.
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>>700618667
why are you so uncomfortable anon? you feel the need to boost your argument by deferring to the size of one's genitalia and then claim someone needs psychiatric help because they provide further evidence?
fuck yourself
>>700618682
I am part of society. your opinions aren't my opinions so I am confused when you say "we" and "we're" and "us"

who exactly are you talking about?
>>700618979
I agree with you. anon
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>>700618121
If there wasn't the right to free speech in the first place, government would limit what could be said and who could speak in the first place. Erosion of freedom leads to totalitarianism. See the Nazis, the Soviets, Communist China, North Korea, every shithole country decolonized by European powers who appreciated freedom, etc. Need I continue?
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>>700609020
>2A is literally the bedrock of liberty.
nigger you don't even know what liberty means.

look the word up, before ever using it in a sentence again.

fucks sake
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>>700608336
>well regulated
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>>700615421
I don't see how freedom was infringed there. Maybe you should look up the meaning in the dictionary first. Freedom and Fear have the same first letter, but the similarities end there.
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>>700619016
and you're a cunt still. Keep worshipping the constitution as perfect, nigger.
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>>700618535
More like the right to own 1776 era rifled musket.

>I mean the founding fathers obviously knew that we would have AK-47s and AR-15s in 2016.
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>>700618878
>vote in Hillary for just being a women
>just being a women
>being a women
Perhaps there should also be a literacy/grammar test performed as well, to prevent people like you from voting Trump just because you're misogynistic morons.
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>>700619034
Patriotic doesn't mean sympathising with domestic terrorists. They're serving their country by killing rebels.
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>>700619078
You seem to be using society as a bandwagon for your claims.
So yes, it is a fallacy as has been pointed out.
I still do not agree with your statements. As a part of society, this invalidates your claims to the contrary.
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>>700619083
I'm talking about the majority of society.
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>>700619148
>I can only understand three words
>>700619259
no more like the right to keep and bear arms. swords are also arms but you can't walk around with a sword can you? sounds like infringement to me
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>>700619361
you are generalizing your opinions to all of society yes I know this and I have called you out for it... 10 posts back
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>>700619186
I am not a hypocritical fucktard about it at least, unlike your uneducated niggeredly ass.
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>>700619259
>Right to free speech
>Shitoposting on the Internet
>I mean the founding fathers obviously would've known about the Internet and computers and smartphones
Eat shit.
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>>700619034
National guard has already fired upon and murdered citizens. You think that they would hesitate? No problem.
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>>700615086
Like what ? how would you fight of 3 assailants?
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>>700611922

/thread

You aren't a militia. You're just untrained, stupid guntards.
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>>700608336
Why do you have to be the focus of some conspiracy constantly?
Nobody gives a fuck about your guns.
It's the persecution mania that gets me. Not sure why you feel you need to validate your gun obsession with paranoia either.
Stop being so melodramatic about it too. You just want to collect them because you like them. It's cool, I sympathize.
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>>700619290
You're part of society, but I said "society can see that freedom of speech is logical". You most likely agree with freedom of speech, so you're part of the majority I spoke of.
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>>700618931
if you cant read that, take a step back and look at it from another perspective you are narrow minded, and should not reproduce
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>>700619382
Sucks to be you m8. I live in a state where I can walk around with whatever size knife or sword I want.
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>>700619034
>implying we haven't trained for thousands of domestic terrorist insurgency scenarios post-9/11.

the patriot act didn't just clear the legal path for us to do that by accident, anon.

What we wouldn't do, is risk a few delusional morons turning into martyrs. We'd Predator your entire neighborhood if that's what it took to contain, isolate & destroy the threat. And no, you red dawn retards won't get your OK corral standoff. Unless you think you can out-shoot a fuckin JDAM falling out of the sky on your position
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>>700619505
Every male between ages of 17 and 45 is a member of the federal unregulated militia, in addition to their state militia which has varying ages for possible conscription.
Eat shit, chew well.
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>>700615733
Then dont commit the crime nigger.
Keep your hands of me.
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>>700619455
No, my opinion is not in the majority, but my opinion on free speech is. Which is why I used "we" (society) when I said we can see that free speech is logical.
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>>700619673
>I don't care if you are infringed because I am not infringed
great logic fellow citizen
I am from california so needless to say I never think about the other states in the republic either
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>>700619849
great nobody is talking about that so you are arguing a moot point. take your free speech to another thread if you wish
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>>700618382
Not saying your government's embezzling money (and it probably is, to finance campaigns and obtain support from a bunch of industry leaders). What I'm saying is your whole system is corrupted to the bone. The baseline for almost all decisions is the well being of corrupted banks and corporations rather than the well being of your people.

I was joking about the toilets disappearing btw, I knew it would infuriate you. Besides do you really think that white folks will line up to take the dirty jobs currently held by immigrant minorities.

Anyways this conversation is fairly pointless, my opinion will remain unchanged and that opinion is that you guys are fucked and in the hands of the worst scum this planet has managed to breed.
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>>700612707

This is asinine. One predecates the other.

FOOD is necessary to the PEOPLE because FOOD is predecated on the fact that [the people] need a well-balanced breakfast to start the day.

Put another way, if and when food is no longer necessary for the supplication of the need for breakfast, then it being a right of the people is invalidated.

The safety of the people is no longer predecated on the necessity for them or people near them to bear arms; we have a police force now. tons of them, in fact. This INVALIDATES the Second Amendment's call for people to have uninfringable rights to bear arms. PERIOD.
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>>700619505
It literally say's ", the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". Which means you don't have to be apart of a militia to own a weapon.

Also, what the fuck do you think a Militia consists of? Reservists? Cop's off duty? It's the people of the USA, I.E. You and me fuck face!
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>>700619943
I never said "x is true because the majority of people believe it". So nice fallacy-call, faggots.
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>>700618087
>defective penor
why can't you grow a straight dick
your deformed weenis scares all the little girls and boys
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>>700619865
Your fighting your own strawman. Typical of gun-toting retards. And if you think that your rights are being infringed because you can't walk around with a sword like an autistic, then you are free to move elsewhere.
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>>700620122
I think you are just jealous m80
>>700620129
>free to move somewhere else because the state can't adhere to its own constitution
how about no?
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>>700620088
At the bare minimum people who are trained to handle actual combat and identifiably uniformed.
Not some spergsquad revved up to start a massive crossfire between what can only be described as a crowd of potential suspects all freaking the fuck out.
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>A well regulated militia

dumbfucks, its regulated not "everyone has a gun xd"
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>>700613151

OH so the meanings of things in the Constitution are determined by the meanings they had in the days it was written, eh?

Well Ill tell you what, faggot: you can have all the muskets and flintlock pistols you want. We'll just take and regulate the flow of all post-1791 firearms, since they didn't exist and therefore the writers had no way of knowing their document would be referenced for their keeping and use as well.

sound good?
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>>700619589
No I do not. I do not agree that you may yell fire in a crowded building for fun.
I do not agree you can libel and slander people without fear of reprisal just because you're a malicious cunt.
I do not believe you can swindle and lie to the public for your own benefit.
I do not believe you can openly plot and plan to murder, rape women and children, or blow up buildings.
So no, I do not believe in freedom of speech as you claim.
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>>700615515
>shoot up a school

Statistically and numerically speaking more people die from bumping their shin against the coffee table which then causes a terminal blood cloth too travel in to the secondary circulation system of the brain then there are deaths from school shootings.
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>>700620262
>dumbfucks, its regulated
what does this mean? if I read the first three words of your post I don't understand the whole context. what the fuck I hate words now
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>Military will never fire upon their own citizens.
>Forgets Kent State massacre where National Guard killed and injured numerous citizens.
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>>700608608
What the fuck are you going to defend against? People with Nail clippers?
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>>700613180

Oh my god! Hitler, Stalin and Mao all breathed air and ate breakfast too! You'd better stop doing those or else you're just like them!
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>>700620307
Show me where is says "muskets and flintlocks" in the amendment.
I'll wait.
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>>700620322
When did I claim that's what freedom of speech is nigger?
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>>700620447
he won't be able to anon.. I have put in the legwork myself
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>>700612133
You're just afraid you'll get shot one day. Alright pussy we'll get rid of guns so you don't have to piss your pants everyday when you leave your house.
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>>700619083
>>>700618667 (You)
>why are you so uncomfortable anon? you feel the need to boost your argument by deferring to the size of one's genitalia and then claim someone needs psychiatric help because they provide further evidence?
>fuck yourself
FUCK! I need to spell it out for you, you fucking dipshit!?
The size of your dick is irrelevant. It's that you are compensating for your inadequacies.

Step back and look at yourself. If you really have the objectivity within you. I'm sure you don't
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>>700609296
>Implying you should just give up and just take it up the ass

Pussy
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>>700620236
Then stop bitching about your rights being "infringed" (hint: they're not).
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>>700620466
So you agree regulation is fine then.
That's not freedom, it's regulated speech.
Your "logic" is flawed, nigger.
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>>700620599
I have many many faults.. my dick size and my constitutional opinion on guns are not some of them
>>700620671
but they are though. california thinks they can conduct background checks for ammunition sales. haha
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>>700620676
Because freedom doesn't mean you can do whatever the fuck you want. Which is why America has freedom even though you're not allowed to walk out of your house, kick 7 babies, and continue your day. Freedom =/= anarchy or total "liberty". Gosh you're such a muzzcunt. Go slit open your wrist with a butter knife and staple your veins to your chin, cunt.
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>>700617108

Scalia reads anything that way he wants it to. Mass. v. EPA is evidence that he'll avoid plain English if he doesn't like what it means.
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I'm a half blind alcoholic with bad delirium tremors and like most here I'm suicidal, secretly into cp and scared of leaving the house, thank god I own a gun - in case some psycho tries to take my freedom.
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>>700620088
>>700619785

lol
what's the difference between every male between ages 17 and 45 in an unregulated militia,

and everyone who actually went, signed up, went through the physical and mental conditioning, committed to the weapons training, understands their place within the power structure, keeps their weapons in the armory, where they're properly maintained, regularly checks in to make sure they're sane, and is an actual member of the well regulated militia?

Protip: they are actually necessary to the free state, and if we disbanded the standing army back to a minuteman militia, their right to keep and bear arms to defend the country would need to be maintained. Somehow. Good luck with that F35.

You are not.
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>>700620928
Butthurt much?
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>>700620928
but freedom means that in california I can't have a mag/clip with more than 10rds but in florida niggers who are on FBI watch profiles can buy rifles and shoot up clubs?

your logic is amazing.. please tell me what else are we missing? obviously america can benefit from your brilliant fucking ideas.
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>>700620966
You eve facepalm but with your gun instead of your hand?
Facegun?
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>>700621059
nice reply, nigger.
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>>700620088

Holy SHIT. I knew you "people" were really stupid and bad at school and educations and shit but this is pathetic.

Do you know ANYTHING about the climate of the US at the time of the amendment's ratification? Covered wagons and settled towns defended by literally everyone who settled there working together as a microsociety. THAT is what is meant by militia. They weren't paid for or any of that shit, it was just the people of tiny towns with few resources banding together to defend one-another from bandits, Indians and shit.

In times of martial law, neighborhoods and towns tend to still do the same thing. It's part of socioeconomic and human nature.

That has NOTHING to do with modern times or the application of the 2nd Amendment though. And it ESPECIALLY has nothing to do with retards owning and being allowed to purchase guns with zero safety training or oversight. That shit is psychotic.
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>>700621093
freedom only goes so far, faggot.
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