>>700604865 vader has a fucking galaxy spanning empire behind him. he could just transport me to some tropical planet where I chill for the rest of my life while all of the other fags are stuck on earth.
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>>700604984 >>700605094 I'm with you guys, but just remember there are materials (including metals) that can repel a lightsaber, like a viroblade and other things, and the concept of adamantium is suppose to be the strongest metal ever. Seems like vader and wolverine would have a stalemate and the only difference would be the setting they're on.
If Vadar is on any given empire ship, he could just protect you in an area where he could jettison wolverine and be done with it. So there are other factors to consider, probably more than I can think of at the moment.
>>700604865 Strong argument for the predator because if he wasn't hunting and fooling around trying to proove his manhood ( It's been shown throughout the films they use way less technology than they have to go hunting, basically their going out there with a pointy stick to proove how bad ass they are). Anyway if predator had access to all his technology and was committed to defending me I would pick him hard, we could just get in his ship and fly to a different galaxy for one.
>>700605873 nobody in that picture is capable of killing him >>700605938 highly situational, and nobody can protect you from a neverending amount of attack from a self healing undying being, so your only chance is relying on wolverine to defend you properly
In the movie the motherfucker had a personal flagship bigger than any ship in any fucking franchise before or since, save the death star, of which he would have had two.
Vader flies in, blasts the fucking planet and then soars out to the planet of slave padme's he had those alien cloners whip up for weekends when he didn't have anything better to do than rape and strangle bitches till his dick and strangling arm are limp and broken from the effort.
Am I the only one who thinks the terminator is unfair? He's a time traveler. He could take his sweet time traveling to each other character's timelines where they are children and kill them, or simply kill their mother. Pretty much unbeatable.
>>700606103 Great trump. But if Vader took ypu under his wing and trained you at least as a special forces soldier and you never left the ship / planet he was on the predator wouldn't really have much chance
>>700606180 Force choke is pretty much the idea of being jettisoned into space, so all he needs is to just force grab him out of space if he's holding onto something. And Vadar can't use mind tricks because he was never trained high enough in the Jedi order to learn that, there's nowhere in cannon or legend that he used it, and wolverine doesn't have a weak mind. So there's that.
Darth Vader could- > force choke predator > force choke batman > eject wolverine into space and shoot his ass with the death star so he'd be blown to bits and would never recover > lightsaber the shit out of hellboy > force choke dredd > force choke Marv and cut his head off > electocute robocop and disassemble him using the force
>>700606366 Not really, they're still using gay fucking swords in combat and storm troopers have never hit anyone ever. 1 predator could take down a death star, I am so confident of this. They have invisibility tech, various life/heat detecting tech, we can only assume the weapons they have taken hunting are nothing compared to what they would use in serious warfare this is continuously implied throughout the franchise. Pred master race would honestly just stealth kill his way into the heart of the death star and snap darth vaders neck while he was taking a dump. No other participants have space travel i.e, win.
>>700607027 true, but only if the others knew about it, and only if they actually had or could build a magnet star wars doesn't really use tech simple enough to be easily refitted into a magnet as far as I know, so that would pretty much only leave terminator and especially batman capable of constructing a magnet of that size in time
It's a machine, it has the potential to wait infinitely. That means it can wait until the technology exist to reach where it needs to go before porting back. Adding him into the fray is really unfair because time-travel is OP.
>>700606018 >adamantium is suppose to be the strongest metal ever
adamantium is an impure vibranium. adamantium isnt the strongest, vibranium is. and there is a blade made of a red metal called the Muramasa Blade that can at the very least deflect adamantium and stops healing factor.
aside from that, force chock, jedi mind tricks and whatever else would put vader ahead of wolverine.
thats being said wolverine in berserker mode would be a toss up. though hed prolly kill/forget about you in the process.
>>700608787 You're absolutely right! I guess the first thing I'd do when I see them fighting is run and hide. Staying quiet as possible and trying not to piss my pants would be the challenge at that point.
>>700608787 The fuck is with force choke just defeating everything. Say wolverine has a brick, Drath vader trys to force choke him, wolverine throws the brick at him momentarily distracting him. Wolverine jumps on him and shred his face into bargin bin bacon. FORCE CHOKE LITERALLY DEFEATED BY A BRICK.
>>700606784 Marvel canon already states that wolverine can be killed via asphixiation (choking, drowning, etc) they prove this in the Daken series where Wolverine kills Daken this way. Also wolverine is killed by having adamantium poured on him (he is still currently "dead" but continues on in the marvel comics via Old Man Logan which is a good series i recommend it)
No one seen the movies where it Wolverine vs Magneto and Magneto wins? Imagine that but instead of just picking him up/controlling his skeleton, hes ripping him apart or throwing him into a reactor in one of his ships or freezing him in carbonite or whatever any number of things, point is: force + SW universe = rekt to all
>>700608006 I hope you're not implying he would try to use natural magnets
>>700607892 there are considerations for making giant electromagnets, and I'm sure power wouldn't be a problem, I bet they don't keep that many materals on hand that can be used, and even if their ships had giant transformer units on them, which they might not need anymore because of the fancy technology, they would have to basically decommission the whole ship, and they would have to land somewhere to do that gathering materials to make a magnet for use on a probably moving target would require some serious harassment of non-empire mining planets on the outer rim
>>700604865 Vader is the only logical answer. He can take you to an freaking star destroyer, suddenly 7 of the other 8 are irrelevant, as they don't have access to space travel. The predator has pretty much zero chance against Vader. His invisibility is useless, as he can sense his presence with the force. Not to mention, it's likely that his ship would never get close to the star destroyer without being blown to bits.
>>700606560 I doubt it. Vader would be able to sense his presence and eliminate him before the predator could strike. Vader is super OP for this list. Nobody else could even match him, let alone hurt something he's protecting.
>>700610616 but if superman beats goku and goku gains moer power from saiyan power, and gets stronger... SUPERMAN WILL JUST BEAT HIM AGAIN unless goku finds kryptonite Superman lives inside the sun and can blow up a galaxy if he really wants to, dude. Goku is a Japanse piece of shit - i would rather be defended by Astroboy than Goku
>>700610676 DC never launched it's Ultimate line for some reason. They thought about making one in 2002, but never did. It was a good call in the end since shit spiraled out control and Ultimate Marvel had to be put down like a rabies infested dog.
>>700610769 It didn't say anything about them worrying about their own safety. They just want you dead. It is the job of the one you pick to keep them from killing you. Vader doesn't have to fight Wolverine. He just needs to kill you before Wolverine kills him. And you are just a squishy human.
>>700610644 Superman has survived universe killing blows, unscathed. Have you forgotten 15 supernovas to the face? Goku can't throw anything at him that would put him down. Only weapon he has is kryptonite, which he wouldn't use.
>>700611251 Goku met the equivalent to him from an alternate universe: a guy who's the strongest person in his universe who wants fight strong opponents. This dude's gimmick was he could stop time for .1 seconds and eventually got up to .5 seconds. Goku combined his newest power up with his oldest one and was able to keep moving in frozen time.
By that same logic, Wolverine just has to kill those chasing me first. He's gonna smell Vader and know he's coming far before vader can detect me, as I and wolverine have zero power in the force. Thus, wolverine tells me to hide like a little bitch while he smokes Vader's ass.
Besides, vader was arrogant and liked to fight things out with this lightsaber. He almost never initiated with force powers. He mainly used them for intimidation or if he's losing a fight. Wolverine doesn't draw battles out. He'll feign one injury to finish off vader easy.
I am going to devote my life to becoming a famous comic book writer just to create a superhero and their only power will be to be better than any other fictional or non-fictional character so people will finally shut the fuck up about who can beat whom.
>>700611765 Wolverine claws versus concentrated plasma. And I don't know how fast Wolverine is supposed to be, but with the force Vader could probably dodge/counter the first few swings. If Vader can cut through Wolverines claws then he should only be able to grow the bone back, thus making him less effective at killing. If he can cut through the metal then he can cut his head off, stopping him for a time, and find you with the force.
>>700611617 Fighter to fighter, at their best, Superman will always win. Goku just can't overwhelm him, overpower him, or outmatch him. Superman got out of a black hole totally unscathed. When he fought superboy prime the huts altered reality, he blew out a star like a birthday candle, he has moved several times the mass of a planet, lifted something infinitely heavy, should I go on? Face it, goku couldn't even hurt him.
If we were talking original Anakin with Palpatine training and full midi chlorian count then that might be something.
If you expect me to believe that quarter powered toaster is going to stop Wolverine who is far better equipped to deal with an enemy whose power he's unaware of than Vader is, you're simply wrong. He doesn't have the dexterity to beat Wolverine, especially not knowing his abilities.
>>700612151 That might be. However I think most theoretical physicists give the Star Wars Empire as a typical example of a Type 3 civilization. Normally they give the Star Trek Federation as a Type 2 example.
He still didn't move faster than time though. His increased in speed allowed him to increase his reaction, reflex, and computational time. But he was still essentially educated guessing his strikes by analyzing his fighting style. He wasn't defying time as Hit was. Super Saiyan God simply increases physical output, it doesn't grant any kind of time-related abilities. Goku's ability to counter hit was due to him being a naturally gifted fighter. That's all.
>>700611834 What about the fight with superboy prime, where the strikes alter reality itself. Hits so strong they reshape causality, and he survives them. Or new 52, where he rips doomsday in half like he's nothing. Goku can't touch him, fighter to fighter at their respective primes.
>>700611934 already exists, I lost the images but his name is argument ender man or something like that, I think his symbol is a greater than sign or something basically a crudely drawn comic where he goes around beating superman and popeye and jackie chan and shit so people will stop arguing on the internet
>>700612927 That's my point though, Superman has survived worse unhurt. Dude survived a black hole unscathed for fucks sake. He is in a league of his own. He has taken reality shattering hits and not been hurt.
Adamantium is not going to have any problem countering a lightsaber so that argument is mute. Not to mention Wolverine has fought MANY skilled swordsman. He spent how many years in japan's samurai era? Not to mention he's hundreds of years old plus his experience in the current meta exchange? He's an all round better fighter then Vader, period.
And as I've said, Vader never initiates fights with the force. He only uses it when he's in a dangerous situation. And even then, using it to dodge is extremely taxing on his body. That's why his entire fighting style revolves around being the aggressor and not needing to utilize in flashy dexterous movements.
This fighting style is literally hard countered by wolverine, a type of combatant who specializes in close quarters and Vader has no knowledge of. Wolverine wouldn't give him enough time to figure out his abilities.
There's already metal's that can resist lightsabers in the star wars universe, so the chance of a lightsaber cutting one of the strongest metals ever created is highly unlikely.
>>700613556 Superboy wasn't punching Superman so hard that he altered reality. He was literally punching reality. Goku and Beerus punched each other so hard that the shockwaves tore the universe apart. Then they got in a beam struggle that would have ended the universe. Goku can do more than ten times that level now. He moves faster than time itself.
Hit can't completely stop time he can only slow it in exponential degrees. The Kiakon once again just pushed his processing abilites and his reflexive speed to the point where he could react within those fractions of miliseconds.
It's basically speed of light reaction but he's still not interfacing with time. It's still prediction.
>>700604865 Batman 1) He captures Wolverine. 2) He drains Wolverine's blood and pimps it into me using comic book science giving me Deadpool's powers 3) With my newfound immortality he uses me as bait setting traps for the remains seven 4)???? 5) Profit!!!
>>700608787 Are you fucking retarded, Vibranium is adamantum alloyed with steel (Completely incidentally, so there is no recreating it). Vibranium's edge over adamantium is that it stores the kinetic energy between the individual molecules and disperses it back out the way it came.
>>700613709 Strongest metal in Wolverine's universe. It is difficult to compare the strength of two fictional metals. But I will give you that he may not be able to cut through Adamantium, but you also can't say that Wolverine could cut through Vader. He is more machine than man now and I don't personally know what he is made of. And I meant that he would be subconsciously using the force such as when they block/reflect shots. All he needs is a stab in the eye to get to that squishy brain and Wolverine goes down. And then if that doesn't work he still has his force abilities...
>>700614167 Whis explicitly said Hit's Time Skip worked just like his ability to rewind time. He wasn't moving so fast that everything appeared to be stopped. He stopped time, and Goku was able to move so fast to the point where it didn't affect him.
>>700604984 Look at the comics or the movies. Can't kill the "hero" there's at least five dedicated "heros" and all of them depending on which story your enjoying so he's actually the worst choice. Judge dredd or Hellboy. They both come out on top and their side kicks always live.
Vader's suit is meant to deflect energy beam weapons, not metals or physical matter which is not currently in combat use in the star wars universe and wouldn't be built to counter such armaments. Not to mention this is mostly irrelevant, considering the simply physics involved in Wolverine's claws, how fast they attack, and the power he's able to put behind a blow, he's going to tear through that suit, period. It's been damaged in scuffles and plane crashes, so there's no durability detected here that's not going to stop 10 inches of adamantium.
Even reflexive in nature, the force is a good tool against other jedi's because that's what they're accustomed to fighting with. There is no one like Wolverine in the star wars universe, and he's very used to fighting enemies who utilize concussive blasts, telekinesis and the like. He's fought opponents like this and won before. Vader has not.
And wolverine would never open himself up to a headshot. Worse case scenario, Wolverine will bait him into a body shot, which all Jedi are fond of and expect that to finish off any given opponent, which he'll utilize to trade blows and finish off Vader. Whose got the healing factor? Wolverine.
Vader's force abilities are actually pretty shit. He doesn't even have lightning. Why do you think Palpatine spends 50% of his time trying to find a replacement apprentice and demoting Vader?
>>700604984 Everyone is missing the most obvious thing. Vader has an army and space ships at his disposal. He can shuttle you to a space station. Hell, basic orbit is beyond most of these assholes. Then he can blow up the planet they are all on. Wolverine may regenerate but legit predator is the only one that can chase you in space and the empire would turn them into rape puppets.
>>700615736 I honestly only have passing knowledge of all of these characters, so I can't really argue any of these points. However, I don't think any one of these people could beat the other eight, so your best option is to pick the one who you think could keep you alive the best/longest. I still think Vader is my best bet.
>>700616233 Yeah, but I prefer to argue based on just what they have on their person because if they can win with that then they can definitely win with all the technology at their disposal. Plus, if they all get whatever tech they are know to have then the Terminator would beat all the others since he could go back in time and kill your distant relatives. He would never even have to see any of the other eight.
This is more likely the case of Goku's power having such an intense pressure it's warping space, thus negating or diminishing Hit's time abilities. Goku has no time related powers, that's the point im making.
What? You mean transport himself to his ship and use the death star on the planet wolverine is on? He wouldn't do that to kill one person, first of all. It's a waste of resources. Plus, Vader lost the rights to control the Death Star pretty quickly after it was completed. Palpatine wouldn't support such a weak resort for one not even strong in the force. Doesn't make sense.
>>700616247 Vader is effective, but I he has nothing to beat Wolverine really. I think even Predator would give him trouble.
People seem to be forgetting even Boba Fett schooled Vader's ass. He's not that good of a combatant.
>>700616738 Actually if they have the help of allies and all equipment Wolverine could enlist the X-men and Batman would have the Justice League behind him. I don't think it makes since to give Vader the empire. I imagine this as taking place on a Secret Wars style battle world.
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