ITT we discuss without being 12, what would happen if Trump wins, and the reasons why he is running for election.
1. Lets start at the beginning, Republicans caused the mess in the Middle East back in the late 70s and early 80s. Russia was invading Afghanistan, so the US intervened and trained the militia in the country and helped fight off the Russians.
This helped with the majority of the Islamic countries, favouring the US, Iran was selling oil cheaply to the US and UK.
Then the new caliphate entered Iran and new leader was put in place the Ayatollah Khomeini, Iran told the UK and the US no more cheap oil, and offered oil at a reasonable price, the UK agreed to the price, but the US did not and was offended by it.
At this point the Bush family is dealing with the Bin Laden family, deals being made and money being given.
Reagan and his administration didn't want to use their own oil resources yet and wanted to get that cheap oil deal back, so they helped put Saddam Hussein into power in Iraq, and over time, gave him money, weapons and chemical/biological agents to use against Iran. In total the Reagan administration gave $1 trn to the upcoming war between Iraq and Iran.
It was a terrible war, but no ground was made, and hundreds of thousands dead.
Now Iran, Afghanistan and Syria started to look unfavourably on the US and the animosity started.
Back in Saudi Arabia, Osama Bin Laden outraged that his family continues to deal with the Bush family and organisation they run leaves to go to Afghanistan to help make his name and fight against the US and Russia.
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2. Several years later, when things seemed to die down a bit, Saddam decided it was time to use those arms given to him to good use and he invaded Kuwait. Oh shit storm time!!!! The US was not pleased at all, as Kuwait is a peaceful Islamic state, so they had to intervene before the information got out that Saddam was still using the arms given to him, and worse was to come.... he still had a surplus of chemical weapons.
He used those weapons on the Kurds in the North of Iraq.
So a little war took place, and us Brits helped out also, eventually they pushed Saddam out and told him not to do it again... or consequences.
3. 9/11 - The day Osama Bin Laden got back at the US for the war on Iran. Many people died at the hands of Islamic Extremist Terrorism. There was an outcry from many Islamic countries on the attack, which most people don't remember or choose not to remember, as the media keeps pumping into people's heads that all Muslims are a threat.
And then 7/7 in the UK, when more people were killed.
4. The US government soon realised that military and CIA documents were to be released to the public and it would show they had helped with given Saddam chemical weapons.
So the ruse started that we would invade Iraq to stop the making of Chemical weapons and WMDs. Both the US and UK citizens were led to believe this, well the majority. There was no more weapons of mass destruction as they were used in the previous military campaign. But to keep the eyes away from the documents they continued to push to dethrone Saddam, who they put there in the first place.
Of course the Islamic nations are mostly pissed off about this, here is the US and UK using underhanded tactics. so now perhaps they believe that Osama could be right. However only some parts of Islamic countries garner more support for Al'Qaeda. Parts of Iran, Iraq, Pakistan and Syria.
>>699416590
Saddam is hung, and the US/UK try to instill a new democracy into Iraq. This infuriating Iran the most, and Al'Qaeda who now broke into sister groups to fight against the "western economic world". Why economic? Because that is all the US and UK is interested in, is the money to be saved and made from it all.
5. Bin Laden is captured and killed, several of his generals now dead, Al'Qaeda is very much fractured, but it starts the formation of smaller groups into ISIL who will merge into ISS to form ISIS or the Islamic State, who are now attacking Syria because the current leader of Syria Al-Assad is very much pro-Russian. And the rebels and ISIS fight each other and the Syrian Republic to overthrow Al-Assad.
At this time the UK and US are holding back as this is an opportunity to remove Putin support from Syria. Of course things get worse with beheadings etc on the part of ISIS and Boko Haram has been abducting and killing young girls and Christians in Nigeria.
So the US step in and order air strikes against ISIS targets, the Russians then enter the fray and target not only ISIS targets but Rebel targets too. They denied hitting the rebels of course. And Turkey also starts hitting rebel targets as well, which people believe was Russia buying help from Turkey's ruler Erdogan. Which we found out later presumably starts the coup attempt that failed.
6. Why is Trump going for president? Simple, the Republican big wigs and friendly businesses want to wash their hands on what has happened over the 30+ years. So they encourage Trump to go for Presidency and accuse Obama of being a Muslim, and supporting ISIS. They even go as far as to try and say Clinton is a terrorist Sympathiser and wants to start World War 3.
>>699416636
Trump is charismatic, his only redeeming quality, he isn't a billionaire like most people think, he only makes around $150m a year clear, he owes billions to German banks for the loans he took out to build his casinos and golf courses, all of which is an asset of $5bn not the $10bn he suggests. And the banks really still own them until he pays off the loans.
Tied with the growing Media rubbish that black list Muslims as evil, accuse them of Female Genital Mutilation (which is an African tribal belief - Hence why Ethiopia still do it), that Jihads are about attack other nations when Jihads are about a defence of your land or yourself, they say that Halal foods contribute to ISIS which is totally rubbish - the halal certification does contribute back to the Islamic Centre of Human Affairs yes.. but that money is given to poor areas of Islamic countries to develop them. They say Halal is brutal in the way it slaughters cattle, however ignoring it is the exact same thing as Kosher butchery too. However many US and UK muslim abattoirs actually do stun the animals before cutting their throats, which is more accurate than the bolt to the brain.
Anyhow, we are off track a bit, with the media demonising Muslims, Trump strokes that by saying he will do X and Y and Z, to try and make the Republicans look like they care and want to protect everyone, all they care about is hiding the fact they caused all the problems, want to encourage hate towards the Muslims to keep the high amount of spending on Military that is hardly used and CEOs and Shareholders get richer through government contracts to make more. And of course to forever use an ever increasing National Debt to pay for Healthcare etc, while GDP profits and taxes are going straight into pockets. Leaving the public tax payers to try and foot the bill for the National Debt and it's increasing interest accrued every second.
>>699416668
7. So what happens if Trump wins? The economy will inevitably start to crumble, the US who is currently buying goods from Germany and China as they do not have the workforce to make them, does not have the infrastructure to sustain the every increasing National Debt, they will encourage spending and for people to take out loans and mortgages as those create false money into the economy, interest rates will drop, the currency will also drop. It will be a bad time for the US, while shareholders and fatcat CEOs prosper and if the US economy starts to weaken severely they will move to safer tax havens like Switzerland etc and run the Companies from there.
Be assured Trump's only interest is to pay off his debts to the German banks, and there will be shadow corps set up and run through his kids, to funnel money to Trump Inc. Of course it will be shady deals etc, with the help of the administration to make it happen, and they will help him, as he is now the face to fool Americans into thinking everything is fine and they should go about their lives.
All at the same time, less spending on Educations and Emergency services will happen, no point spending much money on Teachers when all they do now is hand out leaflets and workbooks to Students and not really teach them. The country is in a mess right now, and will be worse off with Trump.
Not going to get better with Clinton either, but she is the lesser of two evils, unless you go for a neutral party like the Greens. Then perhaps some change will be made there.
>>699416521
wait wut, what chemical weapons did we give them, sounds like shit OP.
>>699417217
No problem.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/26/exclusive-cia-files-prove-america-helped-saddam-as-he-gassed-iran/
Shows you the documents at the bottom of the page too, when the popup happens click the x to reneg the one time offer deal and you can read again.
So nobody else have anything to say, or bring to the table? Perhaps give their legitimate reasons on why they think Trump would be good for the US?
>IF he wins
Riots/chaos
>If he looses
Riots/chaos
>>699416636
>Simple, the Republican big wigs and friendly businesses want to wash their hands on what has happened over the 30+ years.
This is your premise? You think that the Republicans want to just throw away 30 years of slowly taking hold of congress?
As we speak the RNC is going apeshit over campaign funding right. They want to divert funding from Trump into the Senate and House races to salvage whatever they can before the incoming landslide washes 30 years of blood, sweat and tears right down the drain.
>>699417768
Yeah pretty much. Even when I was writing all that, I was getting to thinking, why do Americans get caught out with all this gullible shit constantly?
>>699417855
there too stupid to see that there country is slowly going down the drain.
>>699417814
Well no it was to hide what they did in the Middle East as of course it was a catalyst in the shit going on today.
>>699416521
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
Im kidding you guys where never great
>>699418000
I see you didn't read, I am British. But thanks for the post.
>>699418115
I see you misunderstood that what i said was directed at americans
>>699418211
Wasn't clear sorry bruh.
>>699418000
your trips don't lie
>>699417953
That already transparent and it's already history and it's not been very kind to Bush/Cheney and big oil. Take a good hard look at the last few months, actual Republicans, meaning the RNC and the traditional base did not want anything to do with Trump. They did not encourage him, Trump basically hijacked the party while everyone thought it was a joke. This is evident by the legions of Republican officials who've rescinded their endorsements and some even went so far as to endorse Clinton, Negroponte-tier Republicans too. Tom Ridge-level. Ex cabinet members, National Security Officials, ex Nat'l Intelligence .. not to mention an army of former and a few current congressmen. I don't see how you can claim that the Republican base wanted him, this a was a bad joke that morphed into a coup
OP what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
>>699418854
So Salty Captain Fagsuckles. At least the OP brought up reasonable points you fat overweight piece of shit.
>>699419186
i can see that one was a bit over your head
>>699418854
You brought up no points to argue OP.
You're the faggot.
>Fucking. Kill. Yourself.
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>>699416691
It started in the 30s. The nazis liked the radical Islam. Hitler considered to take the Sharia as constitution, Islam as state religion...
>>699416521
What the fuck this relates with Trump, faggot? He came from OUT of the politic stablishment, not one of the traditional republicans. You copy and pasted all that and didn't even thought about it.
The false testimony that led to the US intervention in Kuwait
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_%28testimony%29
>>699416521
Now let's look at some of the democrats facts.
1. Dems were the first Americans to institute "gun control" to keep firearms out of recently freed blacks post civil war.
2. The KKK was the terrorist wing of the democratic party.
3. Andrew Jackson was the democratic president that marched the Indians on the trail of tears, the Indians took him to court and won. He did it anyway.
4. The series of laws passed called "the civil rights movement" only met serious opposition from democrats.
5. The internment of Japanese Americans was proposed, and got the majority of its support, through the democratic party.
6. It was a democrat who thought taking the currency off of the gold standard was a good idea.
7. Detroit has been under democratic rule since the 60's and just look how well that's worked out.
>>699419186
Oh please, throwing in a couple of facts about Russia and Reagan doesn't excuse the fact that his whole premise is ridiculous. How does the republicans electing Trump erase the last thirty years? It makes no fucking sense. He wants to talk about Obama founding ISIS? Hes not far off the mark. Pulling out of Iraq on the original Bush timeline, along with his and Clinton's regime change scheme in Syria is directly responsible for the shit fest we have today. GW owns a big piece of it as well for going into Iraq in the first place. We might as well say that Clinton is behind Donald Trump's campaign. They've been friends for years after all. He's donated lots of money to the Clinton Foundation, as well as her senatorial campaign. I wouldn't be surprised if old Bill called Donald a year or so ago, and convinced him to run. They knew what a glorious shit show it would turn into. The only question is if Donald is in on the joke or not?
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>>699416521
And Hillary actively supported virtually all of this, while Trump calls the interventions a mistake and opposed them beforehand.
Elect Trump and you'll see less foreign intervention proxy wars.
Elect Clinton and you'll see more.
Sometimes it IS that simple.
>>699416521
He's a plant. He's a lifelong democrat with ties to Clinton.
He was asked to run by the Clintons in order to hand them the victory after they spent millions smearing the legit republican candidates.
Why?
Because they knew how unpopular she is and that it would only get worse as time went on, with the email scandal, Benghazi still fresh, etc.
Trump is allowing himself to be smeared by media for this hand off win for the popular vote.
Not that it matters, though, Clintons bought or have blackmailed all the electors in the electoral college they need by now to secure the win from them, which is how the president is really determined.
As the wikileaks emails showed with the DNC and Sanders scandal, this shit was bought and paid for way before November elections.
>>699419942
MINORITIES FOR TRUMP! The Democrats are the bigots!
>said nobody ever
>>699419942
The dems and republicans switched parties over the course of time. The dems were on the right, the republicans on the left.
>>699419538
All the trouble now is from the 70/80s.
It is a question I like to ask anti-Islamics is when was the first Islamic terrorist attack?
Now don't be confused between wars and terrorism, they are separate entities, unless you want to link American wars with terrorism on their parts.
>>699419948
wrong
Killing the one man mean and scary enough to keep the durka-durks in line started ISIS. When Bush killed Hussein he "founded" ISIS. With bad old Saddam out of the picture the durks were free to run amok
>>699416521
you are a moron. Ill put it to you like this. Every country on the planet has an elite 1%. Each of these elites do not always agree and shit hole countries elites are still bottom feeders to the richer country elites. This has and always was a never ending battle between the power elite. IF you want to say the US did X Y and Z with out looking into WHY THE FUCK they would do that then you can do the same for any other country the US is advisory with.
China has rovering death Vans
Russia is a state sponsored mafia
Brazil has terrible income inequality.
India's Cast systems (they can say they dont do that anymore all they want but the facts state otherwise)
N Korean Labor Camps
Somilia Death Squads
Saudi Arabia Crucifixions
Irans public exuctuions on trumped up charges.
Japans pedo problem.
South Americas drug/cartel problem in general.
>>699420125
OP here, actually anyone else than the Demos and Pubs would be a better choice.
Republicans and Democrats are all money hungry, and have their hands in the cookie jar with many companies, who crave business contracts with the government when it can. Which is why they always fund both sides, no matter who wins they do.
>>699420070
while he does call them a mistake he'e lying about having opposed them from the start.
>>699420372
did you finish reading my post? I gave GW his part of the credit. Its a bit more complicated than one action.
>>699420159
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/04/06/the-democrats-are-lying-republicans-are-not-bigots.html
>>699420309
For the civilists who live there they are the same. For example, ask the Syrians how it feels to constantly hear the loud noises of the drones flying over their heads with explosions from time to time, losing one familiar person after the other.
>>699420445
Nice of you not to read anything. Good Job!!
>>699420309
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirhan_Sirhan
>>699420734
Hear him out, he's making valid points.
The Elite do control 80% of what goes on in any interconnected society nowadays.
>>699419948
>The only question is if Donald is in on the joke or not?
Not OP, but I doubt it but I don't think will that conspiracy theory will ever go away. Trump has made mention of losing the elections a few times in the last week. That's just odd for any candidate. Even Mondale never said anything like that and he knew he was going to get completely obliterated by Reagan.
>'If I lose Florida, we will know that there's voter fraud'
>'If at the end of 90 days I've fallen short.'
>'If I lose, it’s OK I go back to a very good way of life'
>'If I lose, I'll have a nice long vacation'
>'If I lose, I don’t think you will ever see me again'
Even though I don't think it's a big conspiracy that last one does make you think. WTF you're gonna go into hiding?
>>699420524
Exactly. With democrats and republicans you get your choice of different colored authoritarians.
Left wing or right wing, same fucking bird.
>>699420530
That's true, plenty of vids out there to show him he didn't oppose them at the start.
Trump is a habitual liar, he does it all the time to make himself look better.
He hired hundreds of illegal mexicans to build several of his casinos, and then shits on them recently with his speech about them all being rapists and drug cartel lol
>>699420309
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Sayyid_Nosair
>>699420735
He is a christian, try again?
>>699420286
I am so tired of that bullshit argument.
I'm sure a couple switched parties, but the majority stayed.
Hell one of the lefts major icons to this day is the founder of Planned Parenthood, who said she wanted to exterminate niggers.
So yeah keep spreading that tired lie.
>>699420666
>dailybeast
maybe I should counter with a huffo blog post, that'll shill 'em!
>>699420876
How many wars did he vote for?
>>699420159
Uh Democrats historically wanted to keep slavery and then wanted to keep segregation. The republicans freed the slaves and ended Jim Crow.
>>699420286
some faggots like to say oh the paries shifted.
No you faggot. Go look at places that are heavliy democrate and you can clearly see they still have Jim Crow style living just they dont say it and they use econimc and police power to keep it that way.
Are repbulicans evil as they have been painted ? No are their evil ones in it ? Yes. However Repbulicans are much more pro freedom of do what the fuck you want as opposed to the democrats that want to make rules and regulate eveything and tell everyone how they should be.
Now that all you dems know taht Bernie was in on the scam with Hillary for her to be preisdent. Would it surpire you that Hilirary also got trump to Run to sabatoge the Repbulicans run except they dindt think he would make it as far as he did and he is kinda stuck there now.
HENCE why he doesnt give a fuck and is trying everything he can not to be president.
CLEARLY YOU CAN SEE THIS SHIT RIGHT
I dont care about my grammar or spelling
>>699420850
He then went off on a tangent which doesn't really bring anything to the fold.
I agree with him, but he assumed instead of reading though, and as said gone off on a tangent.
>>699421034
Just goes to show sometimes even left wing biased "media" tells the truth every so often, same with right wing biased.
Keeps shit stirred up.
>>699421142
Well true. Elitism and the discussion of such deserves its own thread. Daily.
>>699421112
Thank you anon. So tired of liberal racist using that lie
>>699420988
Three years after this incident
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_Qazi
Roughly one month later
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_bombing
>>699420070
>Elect Trump and you'll see less foreign intervention proxy wars
50 former Republican National Security Official disagree with you
http://time.com/4444125/trump-gop-security-experts/
>>699420988
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Sayyid_Nosair
Yep but he wasn't the first.
Munich olympics and Israeli team held captive, is the first recorded terrorist attack by an Islamic extremist (although the leader had half Islamic and half Christian beliefs) it is the first time.
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>>699416521
OP your early timeline is fucked (much like the rest of your post).
1. The Russians invaded Afghanistan AFTER the Ayatollah Khomeini seized power in Iran.
2. Oil producing countries do not set oil prices, they either produce more or less and the prices are set by supply and demand.
3. Reagan didn't have oil resources to use. They belonged to individual companies who could decided to drill or pump based upon market conditions.
As your timeline progresses you become more accurate but your assertion that Trump is a bigger globalist or more likely to engage in shady deals than Clinton is provably false. Clinton's financial shenanigans are pretty well known and documented. As for being a globalist all that "make America great" and "build a wall" rhetoric clearly says otherwise.
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>>699420286
Kek not knowing facts and history.
>>699421254
>liberal racist
>>699416636
you fucked up in this part bro
You forgot to mention that USA made huge deals with ISIS, because like you said, they only look for profit, and exchanging outdated weapons for cheap oil sure sounds like a profit.
Also, you seem to forget that Clintons are huge warmongers, and that they are pro-NATO expansion, attack Russia verbally, and with this pace, if Clinton gets into the office, WW3 would likely start.
As for the Trump's part, he wants to reform/dismantle NATO, to make peace with Russia, and to end ISIS. That also brings profit, but also greater peace and less collateral damage
>>699416668
oh, you're muslim, and peaceful muslim too! Must be the stage 1, maybe 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERou_Q5l9Gw
>>699420734
Look ill tell you again
The elite 1% go to war and the rest of us get caught up in it.
In the 60 OPEC did an Oil embargo on the US for supporting Isreal. NOW do you think the most powerful country in the world is going to have some dune coons telling them what to do forever? FUCK no. Look at OPEC now. Its shattered. READ BEFORE YOU TALK OUT YOUR ASS.
Now you can say all you want how the US shouldnt be in any ones business HOWEVER you use all the advantages the US gets by doing shit like that. You can not have your cake and eat it too. Simple as that. OPEC fucked us we broke them.
>>699420530
The only time I am aware of is an interview where he is asked if he's in support of the war and he reluctantly says "Yea, I guess so".
>>699421435
Why do liberals support and idolize Planned Parenthood. It was created to kill blacks.
>>699416521
Its really very unpredictable what will happen if Trump wins, but as far as i can tell its totally unlikely anything good will come of it. One thing is for sure, he would piss off all our allies and neighbors. And with tensions already high across the globe, very easy to see how things could escalate quickly.
On the domestic front, i think he wont get much through congress but will still screw up the economy. His constant inflammatory statements will rile the markets. Cancelling longstanding free trade agreements will totally tank the economy, we will see another serious recession. And if he can make good on some of his plans for tax cuts etc, he will totally have screwed the little guy that he says he is trying to look out for.
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>>699416521
This is well known and well documented, opInions to the contrary are simply that.
>>699420864
>different colored authoritarians
This. It's the one true and simple fact that scares me to hell.
>>699421440
WW3 has started faggot. Doesnt matter who was getting into office or not.
>>699421283
So? History disagrees with them. How are you going to change the fact that Clinton is in support of foreign interventions, voted in favor of them, advocated them publicly and via secret mails, etc.?
If trump wins we'll have our first tranny first lady
>>699421597
>It was created to kill blacks.
Yes, pls point me to your thedailybeast article "evidence"
>>699416521
I feel like I would have learned more in history if you were the teacher. I didn't know any of this shit, as a run of the mull dumb American. Thank you. How will things play out if Hillary wins?
>>699416691
>Clinton is lesser of two evils
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>699421362
1. He was placed in power in 1980, his actions started in Feb 1979 yes, but the party didn't gain complete power until early 1980, infact 4th Feb 1980 to be exact. Russian troops were amassing in Afghanistan since 1978 under a false treaty.
2. The Iranian Shah sold the US and UK cheap oil for their role in helping Afghanistan during the initial phase of the their long 10 year war with Russia.
3. Reagan had other resources, and he spent $1 trn into readying Iraq to combat Khomeini, putting Saddam in power (hence his love of cowboy movies) and gave him a fair amount of arms and mechanised vehicles. The rest of the money Saddam bought cheap stuff from Russia, as the Russians saw this as an attempt to prevent America from gaining the Iraqi favour. So he ended up with some migs among other things.
>>699416521
I don't care about Trump but how did Reagan give Iran or Iraq or both 1 trillion dollars worth of anything when the United States didn't even make over $1 itself back then. With all of our expenses that would've taken 10 or 20 years to accomplish. Just calling bullshit on that. Also, communism was the nation's struggle of that time so of course the Republicans were responsible because they were in control. If the Democrats were they'd have done something else just as dumb or irresponsible like make deals directly with Russia or sell out the US to the Chinese. They're all guilty don't act like we're in the state we're in because of just the Republicans.
>>699416521
Wait, I thought Iraq didn't have any chemical/biological weapons. Remember, Bush lied about wmds
>>699421440
Nope not a muslim. Nice way to jump to conclusions though.
I am an atheist who has taken time to understand religions, all of them.
The media in the US and even in the UK are so anti-Islamic it isn't even funny, the misinformation and lies spread about is bad... it is exactly how the Nazi's operated against Jews.
>>699421846
not him, but uh, margaret sanger was a eugenicist, and a racist, and planned parenthood kills more blacks than the police could ever dream of doing
this doesn't really bother me, but we don't have to pretend like it's not the truth, like that bill gates dad was an american nazi lawyer and a eugenicist, or that monmouth university used the data of nazi experiments in studies or any other 'thing'
>>699421142
No. You arent getting it is all. You are looking at things in a very small time frame. I promise you start reading some history adn start piece it together to current day. You can then see a large war between powerful families that has lasted over a thousand years.
You are just looking at the Arab/USA/Jewish conflict that has been going on since Israel was created. You can say oh bush did that Bin laden family did this. Whatever. It all boils down to the Arab nations crippled the US with its embargo. The US trys its hardest to makes sure things like that dont happen twice. So they picked apart OPEC over decades. Look at it now just look at OPEC and look at what kinda influence they have on the global stage. Its not nearly the voice they used to have. TL;DR Dont fuck with the US with out preparing to fight.
>>699421820
Why would I change it? Foreign intervention is necessary when maniacs are try overrun their neighbors, ignoring treaties and dragging our allies into shit they want no part of. Trump can hide is isolationist head in the sand for a few weeks at best. Middle East is the obvious shithole but what happens when Putin starts annexing shit again - and he will - what's Trump gonna do when that shit starts bordering our allies? Say he was just being sarcastic? No, Congress is going to steamroll right the fuck over him and he's going to be a useless deer in the headlights. He has to claim "isolationism" because he has no fucking idea how foreign policy works. Putin masturbates at the thought of a Trump presidency.
>>699421799
It sure matters. If it doesn't matter, then why are media/jews/elite/actors/loominaty/everyone shilling against Trump so hard? They absolutely fear that he's going to expose the grand Ashkenazi scheme.
>>699422142
oh, ok. Then just watch that youtube video i provided, and you'll understand why there are so many contradictions in Islam (peaceful vs isis for example). You're being taqiya'd by muslims, bro.
Also, imagine that you do all the crimes Hillary is accused for, and that you get in front of the FBI court. What would your sentence be? I'm pretty sure you wouldn't get free pass like she did. That should tell you about what type of person she is. Fucking establishment
>>699422142
The Torygraph and Daily Fail have been craven twats for as long as I can remember, but it seems like they've really stepped up their jeremiads and invective in the past two-three years. I'm just sad Nigel Farage ain't PM, to really run England into the ground (and thus pave the way for NI and S independence.)
>>699421320
yes Munich, But that was the first one i could find that was on American soil. Also looking at a list of terror attacks in america, in the early ninety's to late ninety's. Seems like when the true call to jihad was answered by Muslim Americans/immigrants with the only attack linked to AL Qaeda being the first bombing of WTC.
>>699422094
He did it through the national debt in through the Defense Budget, it wasn't $1 trn off the bat, he split it into many payments over time.
The national debt at the time was $1trn and by the end of his term it had tripled to $3trn.
He was an idealistic typical holywood star who believed money grew on trees..
He did put money into education I give him that, but the majority was spent on Americas potential future in the middle east by trying to secure themselves there.
It failed big time.
>>699422011
don't forget the Iran and Iraq War which CIA/Regan administration funded Saddam.
>>699422574
Are you not seeing it? He was always meant to sabotage the GOP. No one thought he would make it as far as he has. Now he is just saying whatever the fuck to not get the job and the news is getting ratings galore by reporting on what the dude says. If he wanted to expose some grand scheme then he would have by now. Just like Berning would have said that the Democrat Primaries was a scam but he didnt cause he was in on it as well.
You can think its not true all you want but I dare you to go digging into what I say and look at the facts yourself. Tell me its not all one giant dog and pony show.
>>699416691
you forgot to mention how all of those "republican" warmongerers are not backing trump in any way, and their candidate is hillary,,,,I think we know who the real warmongering neocon is....thanks anyway op, still voting trump.
>>699422490
Who said we should oppose literally every foreign intervention? It would be silly to believe that. However Clinton definitely supported the wrong proxy wars and I don't see how that is a good thing. I'm fairly certain Trump isn't against the concept of intervening, but against certain unjustified interventions. Doesn't that sound like a good thing?
>>699422615
>>699422889
Dont forget when the Russains funded all those other countries or The UK went across the world just to beat up a weak ass south american country or how China is fucking over its neighbors on the daily.
Pretty much shut the fuck up all powerful countries do shit like this and it will never end.
>>699422586
Yep, so basically all recently within the last 40 years.
No coincidence that America started their campaign to get into the middle east that everything started. Not just America, the UK too.
>>699422576
I am Scottish, and it does look we will end up with a 2nd referendum which will pass this time because our last one if you remember failed due to promises that we would stay in Europe, and we would get x,y and z.
Now we are out of Europe and didn't get x,y and z.
Scots voted to show they are not likeminded like the English, who are starting to become more far right friendly with groups like EDL, Pegida, NF, Britain First, Anti-ANTIFA etc
When you see them using the olde "no surrender" on flags etc, it makes you shudder that they are pampering the die hard protestants up here also.
I personally want to ship the die hard catholics and protestants over to NI, and leave them there, let them fight it out.
Maybe they can take the neds with them also.
>>699420372
Honestly, if u think Bush/Republicans are solely to blame for ISIS and Obama/Democrats get no blame for pulling out US troops then you are simply completely biased. Also, why does no one blame the terrorists? If 911 doesn't happen then the US doesn't overreact
>>699416521
you forgot to mention how all of those "republican" warmongerers are not backing trump in any way, and their candidate is hillary,,,,I think we know who the real warmongering neocon is....thanks anyway op, still voting trump.
>>699422889
I did that already in the first > 2nd post
>>699416590
you forgot to mention how all of those "republican" warmongerers are not backing trump in any way, and their candidate is hillary,,,,I think we know who the real warmongering neocon is....thanks anyway op, still voting trump.
>>699423003
>even after Kurds gassed Taliban
Then Saddam gassed them oh the irony.
>>699421708
Most people refuse to see that though - Dems spin it as "we're making the nation better by making everyone equal" and repubs spin it as "we preserving American sensibilities and dignity."
And people eat that shit sandwich in heaping mouthfuls.
>>699416636
you forgot to mention how all of those "republican" warmongerers are not backing trump in any way, and their candidate is hillary,,,,I think we know who the real warmongering neocon is....thanks anyway op, still voting trump.
>>699416668
you forgot to mention how all of those "republican" warmongerers are not backing trump in any way, and their candidate is hillary,,,,I think we know who the real warmongering neocon is....thanks anyway op, still voting trump.
anon who cheated on his gf of 4 years for 3 years from other thread still here?
>>699422615
How many payments though? The US Department of Defense gets more now than it did even then so how many payments could that have been? Even if it were across 8 years that he was president that's nearly 125 billion every year. The US government got 167 billion for it's defense budget that year. Are you saying they paid for two million salaries, research and equipment with just 17 billion? Not to mention expenditures from other departments couldn't be used because the Govt got only 940 billion to spend back then. So what you said can't possibly make sense.
>>699423082
>blame the terrorists
That's crazy talk. We all know it's Obama's fault.
>>699423195
please god, just auditing the fed will take the fucking cabal off power
>>699423070
>No coincidence that America started their campaign to get into the middle east that everything started. Not just America, the UK too.
I think you mean to say that America was left with the mess that Europe left in the middle east when you fucks carved up the ottoman empire based on a few dudes trying to make a lot of money and no actual bases for these countries based on ethnic or historical ties.
>>699423033
>Pretty much shut the fuck up all powerful countries do shit like this and it will never end.
No shit faggot, but only notice how those countries are criticized, called Dictatorships or what ever kind of bullshit the media and The US government likes to make up.
>>699423117
You didn't need to post twice so it the first time.
However it was a thread about Trump the reasons on why he is running and a discussion on what will happen if he does get elected.
>>699423284
lol payments
Where does money come from?
a printer. Money is irrelevant.
>>699423070
Yes not just The US the WEST predominantly christian countries.
>>699422914
do you actually realize that if you just sperg out now and say "IT'S DA JOOS", your campaign is dead in the matter of minutes.
My dearest hopes are that he's a genuine guy, and what confirms my hopes is that he's consistent in his ideals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxf1XmVZ9qY (if you're not gonna watch it, just skip through it a bit)
Every interview in last 40 years he says the same thing he's saying now. Man of his word, also someone new in the whole story, seems like the patriotic guy who, quote,
>is tired of seeing how people mismanage this country
and wants to better it. That just seems like the logical explanation why is he running at all. Whole his life he'd say that he won't run, but here he is.
I'm not saying he's not prone to corruption, I just think that he's lesser of two evils, if he's evil at all
>>699423395
what? You literary made no point or sense
>>699423195
Do you imply those are bad things? Because they sound like good things to me.
>Keep out illegals to lower unemployment and raise wages
>Stop third world anti-gay, anti-women, anti-liberty, pro-Sharia ideology from infecting the US
>abolish a system the majority of the people didn't want (undemocratically established) and that is so expensive that small businisses can't provide healthcare for their workers anymore
>>699416521
Poorly informed OP -1
>>699416691
>>699423592
this
>>699423525
No if he said ITS DA JOOS then they would probably take all his money and really fuck him. He is not that dumb. Ask Mel Gibson what happens when you bad mouth Jews in public.
>>699422142
The US media is also very much more anti Christian. And they bed over backwards to not call terrorists Islamic extremists
>>699423284
Now why does the Defense Budget get approx 600bn a year?
Is it because McDonnell Douglas helped fund campaigns and ended up with a contract to supply Stealth Fighters that are hardly used, and not enough qualified pilots to fly them?
Did you know after 4 years they are scrapped, and they are sold back to McDonnell Douglas for peanuts, while they recycle the materials to rebuild a new one....
So the CEO and shareholders reap the benefits, and guess who is in the shareholders ranks?
Have a looksies, it isn't apparent until you notice they are mostly Boeing shareholders which Boeing bought a sizeable stake in the company, to fool people.
>>699423466
Wtf are you talking about. I'm saying how is it possible that Reagan and the Republicans paid for a trillion to be spent on the Iran Iraq war when we didn't have that much money to spend back then. Govt expenditures never exceeded 1 trillion so even in 8 years that would be incredibly noticeable. Especially considering there's no way for the US to lose an 8th of Govt money without know what happened to it.
>>699417927
>they're
>their
If you going to criticise them, at least use correct spelling.
>>699423573
Ok let me put in autism terms for you
>America invades iraq
>"we are bringing them freedom and democracies"
>Russian annexes Crimea, Crimea votes to be part of Russia, Crimea is predominately Russian speaking.
>"Putin is a bad man for doing that lets put sanctions on him"
>Let's ramp up fear in people about Russia when it's Arabs that want to behead and make us follow sharia.
I'm Pointing out the double standard that when america invades a country then put's it own puppet regime it's bringing democracy Russia or another country does it then it's an act of aggression or that ole chestnut.
>>699423525
This is why you are dumb you think of time in such a small scale. Go back to school learn some more. You dont think his family could have been prepping him his whole life for shit like this? So he knows what to say on TV? Cause if you dont think the top 1% dont do shit like that with ttheir kids then i got some news for you.
>>699422128
They used them up or transported them out of the country, Halabja chemical attack
>>699423938
Hurr durr my country is run by niggers that din duu nuffin, Hurr durr my guns rights.
>>699423938
>If you going
>If you are going
If you're going to criticise him, at least use proper grammar.
Also nice one picking on someone who's not a native, you totally added to the conversation, sperg.
>>699423895
what im telling you is they used a fcuking printer and printed off a shit ton of money gave it to them fucks and just never wrote it down on the books. Now they just digitialy do shit like that. Do you honestly think there is 17 trillion of actually phyical currency in the world? Fuck no not even close. Serioulsy most of you fucks thatthink you know whats going on in the world have no fucking clue. Not even fucking close to whats going on.
>>699423969
The USA did not annex Iraq.
>>699423969
I wish this weren't as fucking accurate as it is.
>>699417953
>>699416521
>>699416590
>>699416636
>>699416668
>>699416691
While it is interesting to read this long mea culpa,(and I would be happy to blame the republican leadership for just about anything - they are to a man loathsome bastards) - I find your American centric account of the history a little unconvincing.
I understand - from an American perspective it often seems that no-one else is important, and no one else's views or ambitions count for anything - but the situation int eh m\iddle East did not simply spring into place int eh 1970's, or 80's, and while USA involvement did not help in many ways, it is not the sole force at work.
Saudi Wahhabi islamism has been working for decades (a century in fact) towards the creation of the caliphate. They have been exporting radical islamic fundamentalism and jihad ideas for a long time. Russia's Afghanistan debacle, the anglo american interference in Persia, the division of the area after WW1, the rise and fall of the Ottomans all contribute. Ethnic and relious tensions that go back a thousan years and more bubbled away.
this short term blame game, and saying it is all our fault is just not accurate.
>>699423592
Do you think Businesses will hang around if they can't get cheaper labour? Look what happened in the UK when Brexit was announced, many jobs lost and Companies moving out of the UK.
Sharia Ideology was never and will never take hold anywhere. This is a lie pushed around by anti-muslim groups to seed fear and hate into people.
Muslims have been living in the US and UK for way longer than you think, I know for the UK they fought in WW2 as soldiers and pilots.
Back then Muslims fought against radicalisation, like they do today, they will denounce the Extremists and Radicals they don't want anything to do with them, however again far right groups and the media paint a different picture.
Which is why it is isn't uncommon for people to debunk their stories and untruths.
>>699423969
We didn't annex Iraq. If we annexed all the countries we invaded we'd have more territory than Britain and the Khans combined. This is not to mention that Putin did what Hitler did to Poland. Poland was annexed by Hitler and was full of Germany supporters like Crimea is full of Russians.
>>699424186
Exactly they invaded IT, you moronic fuckwad. The people did not even want the "liberators" in their country.
>>699424166
Where's your source that the Republicans just printed a ton of money without reporting it to give it to the Iranians and Iraqis? That sounds pretty made up to me.
>>699423969
Putin would have heavily continued to push in Ukraine if one of the untrained Rebel fuckwits didn't shoot down MH17.
That was Putin's support gone easily, plus the people in the Rebel areas were getting pissed off that the rebels were using their homes and people as shields to attack the Ukrainian army and government.
Exact same thing he tried in Georgia, with "peacekeepers" and trying to fix the rail system so he could bring more in regular.
>>699423969
Crimea had been prepped to be taken from the ukraine many fucking years ago. The Russsians realized how well American Propogranda was working world wide. How many 80s villians where Russains? Also the US Military has always had a close relationship to with hollywood. Now go listen to Will Smith talk about actors and how GREAT THEY ARE FOR THE WORLD and their job is oh so imporatnt.
The russains used this same tactic on Crimea and slowly over genrations made sure the people there were much more pro russain than pro ukraine.
AGAIN America invaded Iraq because OPEC crippled the US economy and there was nothing the US could do about it. So the US waiting for the time to strike and ripped apart OPEC. WTF are you that fucking stupid.
America actually does try to bring decomcarcy to countries it topples. HOWEVER most of these countries this idea is very foreign to them. THey have no clue what it actually means. You can legally go read any of the SOFA agreements between the US and any nation we have troops in and it clearly states what we are doing adn why.
Go look up the last 20 + year histoyr between crimea and russia and while you are at it look up how russia was finally able to tame Chechnya threw simliary tactics.
>>699423991
What are you even talking about? Small scale? His whole life saying same things is small scale? He should've said them while he was in his dad's nutsack? It's not just interviews there, i beg you to watch the whole thing. His policies are magnificent
The only policies i heard Clinton speak of is some preschool level of promises like "we'll win!". Her whole campaign is based on "As a mother, a women, and also a daughter of my mother, and soon to be grandmother, my female body is candidating for all the mothers and women and females out there" man fuck that shit, go ahead and vote for that populist nwo motherfucker
>>699424166
Correct, the National Debt is basically loans taken out to keep promises, and the idea is People's taxes are to pay it off, which has never happened at any time.
Doesn't help when the US Tax office loves to give back stupid rebates on practically most things people buy.... talk about wasting money.
All that money was created from thin air of course, as you said the US treasury is no where near the amount required to pay off the national debt.
Shame people don't understand this.
And also they have this wrong preconception that their GDP pays it off... when the GDP is profits for companies not the government.
IT is mental, how easily people are misled.
Not just the US but many countries.
>>699424599
That's true. Look at Japan. 150 years ago they were in the Feudal Age and after WW2 we brought them to the Atomic Age immediately. We still have soldiers in Okinawa and they're a democratic country.
>>699424186
>>699424285
imagine loosing texas and trying to annex it some time after. That's what Russians should do, annex whole Ukraine, the CIA puppet state. Read about it more in the yesterday's George Soros leaks
http://soros.dcleaks.com/
>>699424285
I know Iraq was not annexed. But the people of Crimea chose there destiny, Iraq was invaded, destabilized and is know a hell hole, thanks to western foreign policy. Like for instance Putting in Maliki a shia head of government, in a country with a sunni minority. bad choices were made yes maybe it's like comparing apples to oranges. And again comparing hitler to putin is proving my point. The People of Crimea had a referendum and voted to recognize the annexation. So your telling me Hitler gave Poland a referendum after the blitzkrieg Troll harder.
>>699424779
>As a mother, a women, and also a daughter of my mother, and soon to be grandmother, my female body is candidating for all the mothers and women and females out there
>>699424269
>Do you think Businesses will hang around if they can't get cheaper labour?
Remember Trump is also lowering their taxes and trying to make the US more interesting for companies to move there.
>Sharia Ideology was never and will never take hold anywhere. STRG+F for "What do Muslims around the world believe?"
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/22/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/
>Muslims have been living in the US and UK for way longer than you think
Don't assume I am uneducated just because I don't share your political stance.
>they will denounce the Extremists and Radicals...
"They" is not including a large enough percentage for me to be considered good, sorry.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/
>...however the media paint a different picture
The majority of the media is left leaning and pro-Muslim.
>>699416590
>The US government soon realised that military and CIA documents were to be released to the public and it would show they had helped with given Saddam chemical weapons.
This was already public knowledge going back to 1988. Why would they worry about this in 2002?
>>699425018
Did the people of Crimea have a choice?
Or select few had a choice?
They Russians made sure to tip the result in their favour, they had soldiers, sorry "peacekeepers", at the polling stations and anyone who had no Russian ties were not given a card to take with them to vote.
Again as said they tried that shit in Georgia also previously, but it never got as far as it did in Crimea.
>>699424599
>AGAIN America invaded Iraq because OPEC crippled the US economy and there was >nothing the US could do about it.
>So the US waiting for the time to strike and ripped apart OPEC. WTF are you that fucking stupid.
>America actually does try to bring decomcarcy to countries it topples. HOWEVER most of these countries this idea is very foreign to them. THey have no clue what it actually means. You can legally go read any of the SOFA agreements between the US and any nation we have troops in and it clearly states what we are doing adn why.
KEK Typical American Justifying invasion with Phrases like "opec crippled our economy, So bloodshed is the answer".
And the, "We bring democracy to countries they just don't want it" Then repeating the same foreign policy for about forty years WOW Fucking amazing All at the same time criticizing my intelligence. You guys really are the dumbest fucking country on the planet congrats.
>>699416521
>without being 12
you qualified it right there. anything coming out of the USA public education system isn't going to be able to do anything other than puking up Joe Goebbels style talking point bullshit. don't waste your time
>>699425004
That's hardly comparable since we can't "lose" Texas. That's not how US territories work. If any state is compromised we will either not recognize it or sign a treaty and forget about it. Besides, Texas isn't worth the trouble of annexing. It's more comparable to say the US fills Ontario with American supporters and then has a vote to be annexed to the US as a state. Then all the 1st/2nd gen migrants vote in favor and the US gets that territory like Russia did. Also, the Crimea wasn't a part of Russia before the fall of the Soviet Union. So current Russians think it's Russian territory when it never was originally.
>>699421009
I think he was saying their (the party's) ideologies switched. not individuals changing from R to D or vice versa
>>699425412
yea that's what a referendum is right? and it's easy to say the referendum was a joke. But again Crimea is predominantly Russian speaking. And really whats the difference with that and the American holding Democratic elections. just to put Maliki in power so they had no opposition to what ever "interest's" Cheney and bush had in Iraq. Thus iraq being shia majority don't you think the sunni and other minority's groups felt like they had a "choice". There is really no need to argue this they are one in the same but usually one gets demonized the other not so much.
>>699425713
so if people on an island are mostly Russian, mostly speak Russian, like Russia more, and say they would be better with Russia, does it really matter if it was Russian territory before? Why is west so butthurt about it too? That's how things work. That's why you'll get Kosovo split in half or taken whole by the albanians (although with great NATO help), but that's how things work.
>>699425208
>Remember Trump is also lowering their taxes and trying to make the US more interesting for companies to move there.
Yeah because less taxes = better for everyone right? So much for more money coming in to spend on things, oh wait there is always that National Debt to pile more loans on top of.
>http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/22/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/
Did they ask every Muslim? All 1.6bn? Then it isn't a proper representation. Also look on where they asked and who they asked, and you will see why they got that result.
I guess silly little surveys = the meaning to life then?
>Don't assume I am uneducated just because I don't share your political stance.
I didn't assume it is a saying "longer/bigger than you think"
>"They" is not including a large enough percentage for me to be considered good, sorry.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/
Again pew pew pew research, again not every Muslim asked.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/paris-terror-muslim-leaders-around-the-world-condemn-heinous-attacks-a6734711.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/18/muslim-council-britain-advert-paris-attack
Then this old gem that always gets avoided
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3142037/Britons-played-dead-beach-survive-horror-Tourists-caught-massacre-tell-lay-motionless-crazed-gunman-stood-them.html
Not the world the other media portrays is it?
>The majority of the media is left leaning and pro-Muslim.
Is it? Is it really?
>>699426035
The speak Slavic, which is different in other regions.
>>699416521
There is no lesser of two evils. They're both equally fucked. Your third party options aren't any better. Stein is fucking crazy and Johnson isn't even that much of a libertarian.
>>699426186
I speak slavic too, and let me tell you, Crimeans mostly speak Russian. Different dialect tho, but Russian.
>>699426068
yeah and it has no effect cuz religion in itself is corrupted cuz it has failures
>>699425448
I fail to see where spreading democracy is the issue. You don't seem to remember that no empire in history has lived its life without mistakes. The US getting its hands dirty to do good work is its downfall but that's better than the Dutch, Brits, Spanish, Mongols, Chinese, Soviets, Persians, and Germans. Each of them have seriously abused the powers they have to the point of genocide or economic and cultural collapse of entire nation's. At least the US rebuilds every country it destroys. Or at least pays people for grief like when a kid gets run over by a tank.
>>699426068
Those countries governed by Islam though. Also Europe getting bombarded by attacks.
>>699426345
So Britain should come reclaim the United States then? We speak English (though a different dialect known as American English.) And have most of our cultural roots with England. And Mexico should go back to Spain right? And Brazil to Portugal?
>>699419942
Interesting that the first 4 are from a time before any current democratic party member was alive - look back at the history of other parties - they all did shit stuff.
so the first four have no relevance to modern party.
5 - ok, but it was universally supproted - wartime you know. maybe a mistake, maybe not...
6 - good job too. if on the gold standard now your economy would be totally fucked. Gold is a commodity traded on demand (and whim of the markets) your currency would be highly unstable, and untrustworthy, and you would face huge rises in export costs or falls in export revenues ads the traders changed the value of gold, not giving a damn about the value of the dollar.
7> detroit has been badly let down by capitalism and protectionism - American car makers not making decent cars, not amking cars others demanded or would buy (how many american cars are sold overseas? how many are imported to USA?) how can a major city survive when the major industry in that city is dying, from incompetent management and arrogance?
>>699426620
Logic is not your strongest side.
If most of the US people agree with that, then why not? You forgot about that factor in Crimea. Also you should know that Crimea is one fucking island
>>699420125
>after they spent millions smearing the legit republican candidates.
who would they be, and what are the smears.
the republicans are the great smear campaigners - they have been doing it (and using millions of taxpayers money in the process) to Hillary and Bill for three decades
>>699426495
And the US is governed by Christianity. The difference?
None. Both have radical sects and idiots.
I wouldn't say bombarded, that is a severe word to use for a few attacks, yes they were bad, but not as much as you think.
Have you seen the attacks in the Philippines recently? No? Why not? The media isn't interested... which is funny since it is an American Sovereign state.
Oh btw the Age of Consent in the Philippines is 12. Thought I would throw that out there.. why hasn't the US pushed for it to be changed?
Anyways...
The attacks in Thailand was done by non-muslims.
The guy who shot his wife and daughter at a swimming area in England, not a muslim.
I can go on of course.
But the misconception that Islam is the result of many terrorist attacks is a lie.
It is extremists and radicals who carry out the attack not Islam. Just as there has been radical and extremist Christians who have attacked and killed people.
But funny enough that people view the extremist Christians as individuals, but extremist Islamics are the whole of Islam. How hypocritical is that?
Especially when Islam is 1/3rd Christianity, and part Judaism.
>>699421106
he would have voted for the Iraq war, 1 and 2. but he was not in a position to votem because her was not one of the 77 senators who did vote for it, based on Bush's lies (name one of the other 76 can you?)
and the reason he wasn't there to vote is because he has never done a day's service to his country. he has never served anyone but himself, and he is doing the same now. he has no experience or record of ever doing anything for anyone but trump.
>>699418211
>Maximum damage control
>>699418854
Knibb highschool football rules!
absolutely did not read any of that bullshit.
>>699421440
>and with this pace, if Clinton gets into the office, WW3 would likely start.
>As for the Trump's part, he wants to reform/dismantle NATO, to make peace with Russia,
are you one of those guys in the Lie factory, or whtever it is called - the 4500 dollar a month shills for Putin?
because the idea that Hillary will start a world war against Russia, is so out of kilter with the facts - and ignores the part that Russia would play in that with their aggressive expansionism - that it sounds like Putin talk bullshit. But then I suppose he has to support his boy Trump, even if he thinks he is an idiot. a useful idiot.
>>699421597
well, if that was true, just because you are liberal does not mean you want unlimited numbers of poor people of any colour about the place. (and it also allows abortion and contraception and women's health advancement for whites and everyone else)
>>699427677
>shill
You'll never get money from talking truth, anon.
Ukraine was the last European country that needed to be occupied by NATO in order to have Russia surrounded. That's why Russia intervened in Ukraine and made shitstorm in Crimea. If you fail to see this, you're an useful idiot. Hillary wants to continue with this plan, and Trump does not, that's why Putin supports Trump
>>699419942
don't bother reading or attempting to refute any of the points OP brought up, just regurgitate all the shit fox news told you to say when you hear something you don't like.
what the fuck is wrong with people?
>>699422408
Sanger died in 1966. do you really think that fifty years later the organisation has not changed in its outlook, its ideals, it purose?
from a pre civil rights time, pre femist time, pre free love, pre aids, pre the pill for goodness sake -
dragging up the racist opinions of a person long dead from a time when racism was not only common but mainstream and held as scientific fact is just stupid.
>>699416521
doesn't want to be 12. starts with accusations.
way to be 12 OP.
>>699423082
keep working your way up this chain of thought. If the US hadn't been fucking around in the middle east's affairs for the past half century, maybe they wouldn't be trying to blow us up.
>>699422574
>If it doesn't matter, then why are media/jews/elite/actors/loominaty/everyone shilling against Trump so hard?
uh, because even Charlie Manson can see that Trump is fucking nuts? because he is the least suitable person to President of the USA to be nominated since... actually, ever.
the man has no self control, no knowledge of economics, foreign affairs, morality, the constitution (he didn't know how many articles were in it) he has contempt for the judiciary, the executive and the congress - he has no idea of how a law is passed or enforced, he has no idea about the role of commander in chief and the limitations on his power - indeed he simply dreams of unlimited power to do whatever comes into his head on a whim.
everyone is against him for good reason. But hey, they are all out of step except you and your mate Donnie, so why should you listen to any of them?
>>699428625
Ahh thanks for proving you are 12, by not telling the difference between opinions and facts with childish rants.
Grats.
>>699422467
I've been researching this for more than a decade. Any good sources?
>>699428625
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EO9y4rGxvk
>>699423070
>I personally want to ship the die hard catholics and protestants over to NI, and leave them there, let them fight it out.
ex NI here - now well out of it, but please don't send us any more nutters, we have enough of our own. The problem with letting them fight it out is that the 95% sane population get bombed and shot at as well. send the lot to the falklands, including the ones from NI.
As soon as I read OPs posts, and was thinking, "wow these are all actual, provable, relevant facts" I knew a shitstorm of deflection and ignorance would ensue.
Enjoy the "lets shit on democrats" thread you created, OP... 4chan is the kingdom of trolls. Republicans are the kings of trolls.
You post any political truth here and it will be met with an army of retards ready to deflect and deny.
Thanks for injecting a little truth into /b/ though.
And yes. Trump will be the worst thing this country has ever experience. He is, quite literally, the King of Trolls.
He just want to watch the world burn and laugh as it does so. I'm with her. Inb4 "faggot" Do you have a better idea?
>>699423525
>Every interview in last 40 years he says the same thing he's saying now. Man of his word,
2013 "I have a relationship with Putin"
not saying that now...
>>699429315
Sounds like a plan.
>>699429433
No probs. Hope you enjoyed.
I think it is due to die any minute now, but it was a good discussion in the most parts.
Sadly, Trump's sjw's are really *that* stupid.
The vast majority of them are unemployed, and woefully undereducated. I feel sorry for them - but I also realize that they need to be... pacified.
This election is scary, because Clinton's not leading by much. Trump *could* win. Anyone saying otherwise is being irresponsible.
>>699425909
russian shill detected...
Russia will be punished most severely for the Democrat hacking.
More sanctions. A cyberwar they never wanted. Assange will surely be destroyed. And Putin himself may have to be neutralized with extreme prejudice.
>>699419942
>2016
>Thinking the gold standard is at all preferable to a fiat-based system
Think harder Paulbot. I promise it won't fry your CPU.
>>699416521
I'm a conservative that is deeply disappointed in my party for choosing such a clown.
Frankly, I think both candidates are running for the seat with no real purpose in mind other than to win. Donald Trump's ideas are not conservative and Hillary Clinton is untrustworthy in the extreme.
Both candidates have lied and obfuscated and flip-flopped enough times to show that they are not serious.
For the first time ever, I'm voting Libertarian. Gary Johnson.
>>699430654
>>699416636
>Saddam is hung
KEK
>>699430654
I wish the other parties luck, with it they may garner enough votes to be noticed and the next election they may actually do very much better, especially when one of the other 2 ruin the country.
>>699430654
I'm really excited for a Democratic supermajority. And a liberal SCOTUS.
This will be a liberal renaissance of sorts.
Donald trump didn't happen to the GOP overnight. You've been excluding gays, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, women for years.
And now it's the liberals' turn to run things. Your trickle-down nonsense destroyed the middle class. Because of you and your myopic, ignorant policies, Democratic Socialism is the order of the day, and will be installed within the next 2 decades.
White conservatives are dying out, literally and figuratively. Yes, we are going to take your guns.
>>699428681
OH! I love the pointing fingers game!
>If the Middle East would stop blowing one another up, we could get some god damn stability and we wouldn't have to fuck with their shit in the first place.
>If Humans had just evolved into apes in the first place we wouldn't be dealing with this shit, either.
I blame your ancestors for feeling what they felt.
>>699429994
>Unsupported claim
>Unsupported double-claim (gettin' fancy)
>Dangerously stupid claim that paints claimant in a violent light
>Unsupported claim
Damn, well at least the picture you posted paints an unprecedented situation in a negative light. That for sure shows how lofty your ideals are.
>>699430924
>third party vote
>implying it's not just vote
I hope you wear that sticker that says "I voted!"
>>699417927
Not really. I live in PA and even here, the true die hard patriots acknowledge the country's going down the shitter. Nobody argues when you say you plan on going to Canada. Not even the old guys with the giant USA shirts on.
>>699431549
>Donald Trump is synonymous with bad
IT'S 2016!
I MEAN, COME ON!
Newsflash: your ideals are not shared by everyone. Your writing suggests you don't go outside very often to speak with real people who hold dissenting opinions.
>>699431549
>>699432408
Dissenting opinions? 'trump' supporters don't LIVE here. They can't AFFORD to live here. They're not intelligent enough to live here.
No, dissenting opinions aren't welcome here. Most intelligent people share my outlook and opinions, politically.
>>699420876
What is the practice of contractors subcontracting.
>>699431549
"We"? Are you retarded dude? The UN working for the New World Order parasites are going to take everyone's guns, not you. You fucking tard.You have absolutely nothing to do with it.
Complete tool. To be used and thrown away.
>>699432558
>A-10 gun runs on you and your 'militia's' positions
>Spooky gunships overhead, silent at 5000 feet, they have you on FLIR
>Apache gunships hiding a few hills over, out of site, 25mm guns trained on you.
>20mm sniper rifles all sited in on you and your cronies' heads.
When we amend and/or repeal the 2nd Amendment, ban guns, and confiscate your guns, only pockets will violently oppose. And you'll be swiftly eliminated.
>>699426068
>Did they ask every Muslim? All 1.6bn? Then it isn't a proper representation.
Oh boy. May I ask you, then, if you asked every Muslim if they're peaceful? No? Well, guess your point is invalid then. All Muslims terrorists confirmed, by your logic.
> Also look on where they asked and who they asked
Muslims in their countries. What's your point?
>I didn't assume
Except you did and your assumption was wrong.
>Again pew pew pew research, again not every Muslim asked
So all Muslims are terrorist, as I have proven by applying your logic to the opposite point of view.
>http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/paris-terror-muslim-leaders-around-the-world-condemn-heinous-attacks-a6734711.html + all other of your sources
And you tell me not enough Muslims were asked. Topkek. Saying represantative surveys aren't asking enough Muslims and then trying to argue using literally single cases.
>Is it? Is it really?
Yes, without a doubt.
>>699417927
Dude, we all know it's going to shit.
>>699432658
Shit, you got any support for all those claims?
I see none.
>Most intelligent people
Most people that you consider to be intelligent? Go figure. Do you understand how Human relationships come to be? First it requires you to hold some shared belief. If you continue to extrapolate this ideal into an entire social environment you would find that most people you know WOULD share your opinions. Making claims that all or none are intelligent based on their political positions merely shows us how blind you are to reality. Mathematics alone proves your statement wrong. Enjoy your retardation.
>>699433066
This guy is salty and is not happy he was ass raped by facts.
>>699432791
ew you sound like one of trump's sjw's.
can you leave please.
>>699433039
/thread
all weapons should be in civilians hands, otherwise the second amendment is meaningless.
>>699433039
Just like the revolutionary war amirite
Anyway, do you really think they have good intentions taking people's guns? WW2 nazi style? You're viciously fighting for your own and your children's enslavement against the only group of people keeping the USA from turning into a complete, fuedalistic plutocracy. And guess what, retard. You're not at the top of the Pyramid. You're just another tool at the bottom that does what it's told until it's time to be thrown away.
>>699432088
>trumps chances are 0% IM WITH HER
>>699429595
yeah, now he says
>we want to negotiate peace with Russia
which is pretty much having good relations with Putin. And why is that bad again?
>>699428948
>no knowledge of economics
yeah, that's why he got here where he's now. Stopped reading there. Go ahead and vote Clinton. I'm not even from the US, but that guy is your last chance, trust me. If Clinton is elected, enjoy being minority while white (@62% now)
youtube com/watch?v=kSE-XoVKaXg
>>699433222
Trump is probably going to be for a gun ban. He's part of the New World Order too. Did you not notice it? You really think a multitrillionaire actually wants normal people to have guns? He's gonna "change his mind" the second he gets elected. The politicians are in the same secret societies and bullshit clubs. We're not.
>>699433386
>Russian shill detected
>>699433386
>yeah, that's why he got here where he's now. Stopped reading there. Go ahead and vote Clinton. I'm not even from the US, but that guy is your last chance, trust me. If Clinton is elected, enjoy being minority while white (@62% now)
What an idiot. He got to where he was by being born there. He has ELEVEN fucking bankruptcies. He's not on your side. He's not a businessman. If that idiot was on the street with a hundred thousand dollars he would never turn that into profit. All he knows how to do is get bailed out, repeatedly.
>>699433611
Thinking the way to success is one without failure shows your immaturity.
I summon mods on this underageb&
>>699433608
wtf i hate Russia now
>>699433611
i challenge you to have 11 bankruptcies and to raise for the 12th time. Are you 13?
>>699433910
Derp.
Yes, if you define the way to success as being born a trillionaire from the start, then I'm sure trump is quite a successful "businessman"!
Just the kind of logic I'd expect from anyone taking this retarded political circus seriously, regardless of which assclown on the podium they prefer. They both probably sacrifice the same babies and have the same ritual orgies in the same secret societes.
>>699433039
>positions
I don't think you understand asymmetrical warfare.
>have you on FLIR
First of all, it's just IR. FL stands for forward-looking. Second, this requires you to have just identified yourself as a militant. Enjoy your thermal cameras in a city filled with individuals where enemy militants live within blocks of you (this is directly supported by the eternal war in the Gaza strip).
>Apache Gunships hiding a few hills over, out of
Sight, you moron. 25mm requires line of sight. You're literally retarded.
>20mm sniper rifles
20mm is an anti-materiel round. "Snipers" generally use smaller rounds. Not only this, but there are such things as rules of engagement. I'm just a dude carrying a box of doughnuts until that box becomes a bomb after I get within lethal range because you're probably not allowed to drop random civvies holding boxes in a civil war.
>confiscate all your guns
Oh lordy, you're too funny. Keep dreaming, mongrel. Just who do you think is going to go door-to-door and politely ask for peoples private property, not knowing if they even have any? After you "confiscate" (steal) peoples legal property, what do you do with the rest of the guns that criminals still have?
America is democratic.
The republicans are a cancerous tumor that needs to be removed.
Stop Trump and abolish the republican party.
>>699434031
>i challenge you to have 11 bankruptcies and to raise for the 12th time. Are you 13?
I don't think I have enough money or time to have that many bankruptcies in my lifetime.
>>699433308
uneducated shills be errywhere
>>699434242
well you also won't be ever running for a president, it checks out
>>699434236
>America is democratic
>Ban opinions that differ from mine
Classic leftist.
Trump inherited over $200,000,000 when his dad died. That was decades and decades ago.
Even a circus monkey could turn $200M into 3 billion (or whatever his net worth is). He pays literally no money in income tax.
And... why won't he release his taxes. Nixon was under audit, and still released his taxes.
>>699434343
Yes, I'm not born into a secret society like the last 10+ presidents. What's your point exactly?
>>699434236
This reminds me of something straight out of the Russian revolution
>>699434469
but Trump isn't. My point is that he's at least different, while Hillary is just another establishment puppet. Maybe Trump is also, but most likely not, and if anything, that's the reason to vote for him
>>699434462
200million back then is like 2 billion today. Absurd money, and yet all he's done is grow it by maybe 20% tops? I'm sure he has offshore accounts somewhere, but he should have well over 200billion by now.
He's a fucking loser with no knowledge of business or economics at all. If I had that kind of money, I would triple it in 2 years.
>>699434589
Please do a little research on how close the Trump, Rockefeller, Clinton, and Bush families are.
They've been friends for generations. Both puppets.
>>699416521
>republicans caused the mess in the middle east
>implying liberals didn't contribute to that mess
>Hillary voted for the attack on iraq
>Hillary direclty oversaw the attack on libya
>Hillary armed syrian rebels which in turn ruined their country and caused not only syrian refugees but refugees from other muslim countries to immigrate into europe and cause the refugee crisis
>and years before she even ran for president "I want the Iranians to know that if I was POTUS then I would attack iran, we would totally obliterate them"
fuck that lady, its beyond me how she has the muslim vote compared to donald trump
Was following along until you started defending Islam. I'm sure a Shillary supporter knows more about Islam than the leader of ISIS who has a PhD in Islamic Studies.
Jihad is defensive? C'mon that's poor trolling.
>>699434462
It's not $5bn, his assets equal that, but the majority of his assets are owned by a German bank because of a loan he has on them.
He only makes $150m a year from rent on Trump Tower and gambling profits at Trump Casino.
>>699433222
>SJW's
>republican
pick one
>without being 12
>Republicans caused the mess
>>699434589
Trump's bragged about being an establishment politician for decades. He says he's "worked closely with both parties my entire life, and donating tons of money to ensure my businesses succeed".
And when stupid people like you say he's not a part of the elite - you realize the man claims to be worth 12 beeyon (billion) dollars, right. Is that literally not the 1%? THEE Elite?
>>699429994
>calls others sjws
>wants to "pacify" dissenting opinions
>voting for hillary because its the current year
Okay, kid.
>>699434716
Why does he brag about not paying income taxes? And how does he get away with that? I bust my ass and have to pay income tax.
Why do billionaires pay no tax - and people like me pay so much? And why do republicans support that theory?
>>699434236
>>699434427
>>699434563
>>699419948
>Oh please, throwing in a couple of facts about Russia and Reagan doesn't excuse the fact that his whole premise is ridiculous.
/thread i was gonna say that but wanted to be sure someone else already had before doing so.
OP is not only a faggot but a hill shill as well.
>>699434676
Ok, so i'm close friend with 10 football players, that does not make me one.
Lets put it this way (your perspective):
Clinton = 100% establishment puppet
Trump = 99.9% establishment puppet
That 0.1% should give you enough hope, because USA is doomed if it continues the trend
>>699434928
>Trump's bragged about being an establishment politician for decades
he never said that, and he's a politician for like a year faggot. But i guess #ImWithHer now
>1%
found the bernfag. Let me tell you something, welders earn 200k$/year, and they are also 1% kek
>>699434236
I love how shills are are far less educated than Trump supporters even though they'll try to tell you different.
We're a constitutional republic kid.
>>699434714
Jihad is the defence of yourself (defence against sins) and the holy land.
It is what it is.
You only say no, because you want it to mean something else so you can justify your hatred against a group of people.
That is what it is.
Guess what, there was similar in the bible...
Luke 19:27
" But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me."
A bit of a history lesson for you..
As I have said before, Islam is 1/3rd Christianity.
Christianity existed before Islam, Islam talks about the Jihad that was in the bible.
Peter 2:12
"But these, like irrational animals, creatures of instinct, born to be caught and destroyed, blaspheming about matters of which they are ignorant, will also be destroyed in their destruction,"
Guess most will ignore all that, and do the usual "omg lefty" or "you is a muslim... even if you say you are an atheist"
Sad days when people who defend Christianity and their way of life, are completely ignorant to it all.
>>699435133
As I have said, the US is run by the Businesses and Banks.
They all help each other out to avoid paying taxes etc.
It is a shit system that does not work. Happens in the UK too.
All that tax potential gone, but Trump want's to make it even easier for businesses to profit more.
This is all what he wants anyway from this campaign to get out debt himself. That is all he cares about.
>>699423082
obama even funded and gave them rebels weapons, he bragged about "funding the right people" when running for his second term.
it's no wonder these "refugees" hate the west and want to kill us for ruining their lives.
sadly it's not the civilians fault yet we're the ones paying for it.. what a pity.
>>699435221
Shame you didn't use that time while waiting to read everything, then you would have noticed I said both are idiots, but she is the lesser evil.
abortion is a human right but having a gun isn't
-liberals
PRESS T FOR THE TRUMP
>>699435723
Stop, you might hurt their feeble brains.
>>699435723
Abortions doesn't KILL people.
>>699435235
>I'm close with 10 football players, that doesn't make me one hurr durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
>but all muslims are terrorists!
>and all Mexicans are rapists!
>and all blacks are criminals, just look at these fake stats in Trump's tweets!
goddam idiot.
>inb4 "trump didn't say that1" "he was misquoted!" "the media lies!1" "what he meant was...." "I know the video shows him saying that, but it didn't happen. And GW Bush didn't invade Afghanistan, Obama did!11"
>>699435845
but its my CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to have taxpayers pay a doctor terminate my pregnancy
if you disagree then you are a literal sexist
>>699435629
Racism Picker 2016:
Would you like your racism
>Blatant: DT
>[[[Systemic: HC]]]
>>699435918
Can I abort my neighbor? He's being loud.
>>699435966
I'm already a criminal in they eyes of these people. Might as well be a literal sexist.
>>699435931
sure, niggers and mexicans are lovely fathers of civilization, and whites are just uncivilized subhumans. Dig doj and fbi stats, do a homework
>>699435931
Oh yeah the olde "Blacks do more crime than whites" excuse.
But actually in terms of numbers whites commit more crimes than Blacks.
To combat that, they use the % of population excuse.
So it looks like more blacks than whites.
And of course the fellow window lickers nod in agreement, but not surprising as most didn't do well at school and maths is not their strong point.
>>699436256
>Pic doesn't mention Mexicans...
>>699436256
Like I just said the olde... % of population rubbish.
Shall we look at actual figures... huh?
Ouch....
>>699436395
why would the percentage not matter?
>>699435333
>As I have said before, Islam is 1/3rd Christianity.
Christianity is 1/2 jewish fairytales
that makes Islam a 1/6th jew cult?
>>699435235
>found the bernfag. Let me tell you something, welders earn 200k$/year, and they are also 1% kek
pretty funny that Bernie supporters even admit to it anymore, since the great socialist hope bought his 3rd house, a $600,000 mansion.
>>699436469
Mexicans - ok. Illegals (any nationality) - not ok. Do i need to prove why illegals are bad? If you defend illegals, you're lost case
>>699436809
The only reason people choose to be illegal immigrants is because they cant qualify to emigrate legally.
>They have criminal records
>>699436919
oh yes, importing criminals, what a wonderful tactic, i'm a Hilldog now
>>699436048
That depends. It's yes if you're a Republican but no if you're a Democrat. Republicans only care about humans up until the 28 week gestation period, before that they are god's creation, but after 28 weeks they are welfare sucking leeches who should be killed.
>>699436793
lol
>$600,000 mansion
>$600,000
>mansion
no.
When you get into the $5M range, then I'd consider it a mansion.
$600k is a very modest home. VERY modest.
>>699436395
Percentage is a measure of rate.
If there are more white people there will be more crimes committed by white people until the population reaches equilibrium. Once the population reaches equilibrium, meaning there are an equal number of whites to non-whites. Whites would commit less crime if all else were equal. Since all men are created equal, and crime is the subject of this discussion, crime rate is the separating factor. When you isolate the individual (all other things are equal [the population is in equilibrium]), blacks are far more likely to commit a crime on average than whites.
Go be a window-licker somewhere else.
>>699437049
>very modest home.
Maybe in California?
>>699437044
we don't have to kill them, just stop paying them.
>>699436581
Because it is not uniform.
If you were to do it as a percentage of all the people in the US, the % would be smaller.
The only reason right wing and racists use the % of just the black population is they know that the black population is 1/6th the size of the white population so it will be naturally larger.
Look at this pic taken from https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43
Look at the White criminal numbers vs Black.
That is the most important part, but as said the racist fuckwads use the other method to hide the fact white crime is larger.
>>699436654
Yep Islam is part Judaism too.
And the rest is mostly Zoroastrianism.
>>699437137
You can't afford a home in any worthwhile portion of CA for less than 1.5M. That's a trend we see amongst the west and east coast.
Sure, you can buy a large home for $150k in any shitty red state. But no one wants to live in a red state. Or the Midwest.
>>699437206
that's true, but it is also true that the average black person is more likely to commit a crime than the average white or asian.
>>699437049
>$600k is a very modest home. VERY modest.
ecept it's not his home, its his Summer house, the 3rd property he owns
Keep telling yourself its all OK. at least the donations you gave him from your student loans weren't wasted right?
>>699437049
>Communist
>Owns 3 properties, totaling millions
KYS faggit.
>>699416521
>thinks there's a difference.
Doesn't matter bro. Americas agenda is going to happen no matter who is in the White House.
>2016 still believes the presidency is the decision maker of America
Try learning something without TV brainwashed faggot. 2 party system is designed to divide and conquer. It's the same shit. Makes you think you have a choice.
Fucking blind sheep with all theses "I think I know politics" threads from 12 year old virgins
This is why America is the way it is. Keep being stupid
>>699437315
>liberal policies is what makes coastal areas popular
lol sure retard
>>699437206
It's not uniform what? That's not a complete thought.
You're retarded.
>If you were...
It would always add up to 100%
They don't shrink or grow. Percentage is a proportional measurement.
You're retarded.
>it will naturally be larger
No shit, by about 6 times as much. Most people don't identify as the entirety of their race, which is why the numbers are brought down to per-capita levels. EveryONE can relate to the percentage chance of ONE person within their bracket.
You're retarded.
White crime SHOULD BE LARGER BY 6x (according to your BS numbers).
It's not. This means non-whites commit more crimes PER INDIVIDUAL than whites.
You're retarded.
You're retarded.
>>699437478
Hey, he owns 3 modest homes,
Donald Trump owns a 767 and "Thousands of residences".
Sounds to me like Sanders invested his meager income wisely. And that Trump inherited and robbed all of his wealth.
When you shoot yourself in November, do it right (pic related)
>>699437609
Yet you wouldn't want to live there because you'd be surrounded by liberals ... it's the same reason nicer neighborhoods have higher taxes - it keeps all of the shit out.
>>699437609
Yep. That's why hundreds of thousands of white middle class professionals have left California in the last 8 years. Awesome liberal policies.
>>699437846
>weather, water, and port access have nothing to do with anything
>>699437778
>Hey, he owns 3 modest homes,
>Donald Trump owns a 767 and "Thousands of residences".
Every heard of the word 'relevence'?
Donald Trump is a capitalist: Owning 767 homes makes him a successful capitalist
Bernie is a socialist: Owning 3 homes makes him a shit-tier socialist.
Try and shill your way out of that one, demtard.
>>699437778
trump doesn't claim to be a socialist
>seems to me he obviously stole all his money
lol I'm sure. and bernie is paid via taxes which is basically theft.
>>699437401
Because the population is smaller, like I said a large population vs a smaller population will always show higher %s for the smaller population for any studies.
But the reality is there was 6.2m White criminals vs 2.5m Black Criminals.
That is 2.7m more.
But lets look at the % 2.5m of the black population is 5.9% of all blacks in the US.
While white % at 6.2m of the white population is 2.5% of all whites in the US.
So why is the % less..
Because there is 246.66m whites and 42.24m blacks.
So as said % is not the true representation.
However if we did it by % of all population
Blacks = 0.8%
Whites = 1.9%
So you can see why the right wing and racists choose the % by their race method.
>>699438206
>Owning 767 homes makes him a successful capitalist
No, not 767 homes. HE OWNS A 767. The Airplane.
Fuck everyone else, in true Trump fashion he kept one plane for himself.
BTW high debt forced Trump to default on his Trump Airlines loans and ownership of the company was turned over to creditors.
>successful capitalist
>>699438206
>>699438211
god I hope you imbeciles don't riot in November...
just accept that Hillary won.
>>699437774
Not my fault you don't understand what uniform means, and for to call me retarded when you don't understand... makes you worse.
Uniform Distribution.. have a look window licker.
As for the rest of your whining.. it is clear you have no clue about what is going on.
It is just childish rant, be salty more please.
>>699438397
Quantitative data isn't worth shit.
Qualitative data is where its at for ethnographic studies, dipshit.
>>699438529
IT WAS RIGGED! CONSPIRACY! C'MON CLETUS LET'S GET ARE GUNS AND FUCK UP AMERICA FOR AMERICA!
If CA didn't have nice weather it would look like this
I used to masturbate onto birds at a local park. Not a thing that I'm particularly proud of but I became quite good at it. I was taking zinc supplements so I was shooting massive loads and it became something of a sport to me.
If anyone's interested in hearing more, I'm more than willing to expound.
>>699438673
It wouldn't be the first time hilldog lied, cheated, or stole
>>699438529
>just accept that Hillary won.
you realise when you talk about future events in the past tense it makes you sound homeschooled right?
>>699438397
You're glossing over the fact that black people don't make up even half the population of whites but manage to commit about half as many crimes.
Explain away this, retard.
This means that the individual black person is more likely to commit a crime than the individual white person. What about this aren't you getting?
>>699438849
hes never heard of the term 'per capita', his mom didn't teach him that at Home-University.
>>699438673
lel those poor idiots
>>699436256
>that herpes fact
that applies to a lot of races.
