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What do you think of people who don't believe vaccination works?

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/hey-anti-vaxxers-connect-dots-article-1.2668918
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vaccinations work but the current regulatory climate in the us and the marketing and PR budgets of big pharma has made it a ripe target for exploitation. there have been many documented cases of vaccines causing autism etc but you speak out against it you're a crazy anti-vaxxer. its this censorship and lack of real debate and discussion that is so dangerous
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>>698371296
There was a single study that stated a single vaccine caused autism.

It was discredited, the research convict of fraud.

Vaccines don't cause autism. Believing they do causes autism.
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>>698370994
Shouldn't be an option. Vaccinate your kids or give them to DHR.
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>>698371296
>there have been many documented cases of vaccines causing autism
Which you conveniantly fail to cite
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>>698371485
Fine. just ignore the fact that the study is from 98
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>>698371296
>causes autism
>documented cases
>only one shoddy study yet to be replicated

You're a special kind of stupid aren't you?

Your child might die of easily preventable diseases but heavens to Betsy at least he doesn't have have autism!
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>>698371778
>There was a single study from 1998 that stated a single vaccine caused autism.
>It was discredited, the research convict of fraud.

better?
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FACT: There is no vaccination for Chicken Pox.
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>>698371296
>you speak out against it you're a crazy anti-vaxxer.

Because it's been conclusively proven time and again that there actually is no connection, yet these people keep ignoring facts and taking dangerous actions based on their incorrect point of view that literally costs lives and endangers many others.

Every single "documented case" has been proven false beyond the shadow of a doubt, and furthermore the very foundations upon which the autism assumptions rely have in any cases been shown to be dishonest people making shit up just to get people riled up so they can turn a profit off of it
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>>698370994
They should stop listening to alex jones
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>>698371952
things were different then.
>>698371972
I agree just vaccines are fine but when you have a vaccine like gardasil you have to really ask yourself what is best for my child?
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>>698371969
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varicella_vaccine
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>There are still people in the current year that believe vaccines cause autism
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>>698370994
People watch too much goddamn TV. They're surrounded on all sides by news media whose bread and butter is scary stories about how the world could end at any moment, so they become desperate for a clear, obvious enemy to rail against. They lack the world experience to see that the news is biased towards bad news because that sells more commercials, they lack the education to understand that there are trace amounts of harmful substances all over the place but that your body usually handles it, they sneer at things that 'have chemicals in them' because they genuinely don't understand that everything is a chemical.

That's late stage capitalism for you.
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>>698371296
>there have been many documented cases of vaccines causing autism
Name one.

I'm sorry, but vaccines don't cause autism. This problem does not have a simple answer.
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>>698370994
I think theyre stupid, just like my ditsy aunt who's afraid of using cellphones and prefers holistic medicine
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>>698371296
Seriously dude research a subject before you comment on it. You have the internet at your fingertips. There's no excuse to be so misinformed.
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I think they're fucking stupid and they most likely were vaccinated as a kid. They're not fit to be parents if they are not going to vaccinate their children.
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OP loves meat injections.

Too bad there isnt an AIDS vaccine you faggot.
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>>698372244
and this if you dont vaccine your child with every vaccine we mandate shit is incredibly incredibly dangerous. you have literally letting the government decide. forget your civil rights to choose which medicine you take. its literally a delivery mechanism to inject people who don't have the cognitive capabilities to make a decision and the parents aren't allowed to make this decision either. Depending on what country you are in, you can't even seek damages if your child is unfortunate and develops some sort of side effect.

>>698372589
how is a movement that doesn't want to purchase something somehow capitalistic when compared to a product which is guaranteed purchased by government and dispersed?

>>698372678
just google gardasil autism

>>698372936
im not misinformed. if its measles, chickenpox, polo, rubella, tetanus and just about anything else i am completely okay with taking the vaccine but some drugs on the balance of probabilities i think are just too dangerous for me or m child to take. that's not misinformation, its a healthy mistrust of the drug industry.
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>trusting big pharma in 2016

Aka paid shills invade 4chan
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>>698372244
is preventing your child from getting sick not in their best interest?

Nothing gets investors investing like a company winning. For Pharma thats creating a vaccine thats effective with no side effects. It doesnt get them theprofits, it gets them investers which is better. Investers give the bio comoany money and they spend that money on cures and treatments for diseases, this is where the big money is. They are in a constant arms race with microbes and other companies to create better treatments and even cures...because nothing gets investors like a win.
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>>698373480
in the us they are indemnified from any damage their vaccines may or may not have caused and they have the marketing and PR budgets of titans so its completely plausible and possible.
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>>698373303
holy shit you're an idiot
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>>698373668
... that they make drugs and dont work or work poorly and not be affected on the stock market as they don't have to worry about large lawsuits / class actions with large settlements (not that they can't afford it) or even most normal investors knowing about this. after all anyone who doesn't believe their narrative is a crazy
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I don't think of those people.
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>>698373303
>forget your civil rights to choose which medicine you take. its literally a delivery mechanism to inject people who don't have the cognitive capabilities to make a decision and the parents aren't allowed to make this decision either.

vaccines only work on a population when there's a large majority using them.

do you want every single person to study medicine before they take a vaccine that's proven to be effective?

get real, man.
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>>698371969
Everybody point at this guy and laugh
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>>698374125
Then the onus needs to be on the drug companies to create something that isn't going to give people fucking autism and they should be held accountable for any shit that might occur from taking the drug
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>>698373303
let me guess: you also want to be able to go without medical insurance "unless you need it".

maybe only pay for roads that you drive on?

school your kid at home, because you're so much better a teacher than the person whose career it is?
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>>698373303
Googling gardasil autism led me to

http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/03/the-truth-about-gardasil-its-destroying-our-girls.html

a page not even claiming that gardasil leads to autism. This page leads to

http://truthaboutgardasil.org/

which cites no sources, just throwing a bunch of scary words together. A search for Jessie Ericzon, the girl who was supposedly killed by this vaccine leads to

http://nypost.com/2008/07/20/my-girl-died-as-guinea-pig-for-gardasil/

An article about the dead girl containing a quotation from a CDC spokesman saying they found no pattern or connection to gardasil in any of the incidents they've reviewed.

tl;dr parents lost their kids and need someone or something to blame regardless of whether that blame is warranted
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>>698374336
shit bait but I'll bite. vaccines don't cause autism. the shit that they claim can cause it in them (mercury mainly) isn't even used in vaccines.

the one study that said they cause it was discredited and the guy lost his license to practice medicine because he made shit up.
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>>698371296
There isn't really a big increase in the number of autist tards.
Idk why people today think it's a separate kind of nuts.
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>>698374336
>>698374521
>>698374453
there were no fucking antivaxxers when the cure for polio came out. its clear that a lot of people now have doubts about these drugs and instead of trying to alleviate their tensions you just ridicule them. wow great job keep it up.

>>698374425
no, i believe in universal healthcare and there are advantages to being home schooled but im partial to it unless the alternative is having to follow something like common core curriculum
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>>698371296
>there have been many documented cases of vaccines causing autism
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/autism.html
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Have a look at the actual research. There is strong evidence that the aluminium adjuvant used in vaccines is a neurotoxin and caused a large number of problems and complications. Over 3 billion dollars have been paid out to date for vaccine related complications and deaths. There is minimal if any empirical evidence for the effectiveness of vaccines. Ask yourself how do you really know what you know regarding vaccination. Read the scientific literature and it tells a different story to the 'obvious' facts portrayed by the mass media. Science by its nature is never certain; to claim that it is is simply scientific illiteracy.
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>>698370994
What a shitty baby face. I hope that little bastard is dead.
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>>698374764
we have anti vaccination people because we have a society of cents who think that Google makes them more informed that the professional that has spent half their life studying medicine. especially when the vast majority don't even know how to search for things properly online. they just see the first site and assume that because it's online, it must be true.


tldr we have retards walking around trusting the Internet and non professionals more than professionals today, that anti vaccination
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So here is what happend. The scientific community choose to broaden the definition of what autism was, in reaction to this a bunch of retards decided that there was an autism epidemic and blamed it on vaccines, cause they care too little about their kids to do literally 5 seconds of research, but too much about being outraged to have their kids have a decent life.

These people should be hung in the street for endangering innocent children and the rest of us with their idiocy.
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>>698375164
do you how much of decrease in health care costs will occur if people just start making decisions on their health and body instead of living and dying by the word of their doctor. Atleast in the US most doctors are bought and paid for. even the time telling liberal faggot agress with this. you can't even get the notes your doctor has made on you in the US. that is how cucked your entire medical system is.
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>>698374764
They are people who don't give a shit about their children. Or at least not enough of a shit to do a 5 minute fact checking.

You don't reason with idiocy like that. You try to contain it.
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>>698375448
we aren't discussing how fucked healthcare cost is in this country and why. we are talking about vaccines you dumb faggot.

in 1955 when the polio vaccine came about, people didn't question it because they could go to their house and read everyone's opinion on what may or may not happen.
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>>698375530
ugh. whatever
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>>698375164
How much time do you think your GP has spent researching the scientific literature regarding vaccination? I mean given the vast range of conditions that they have to deal with do you really think your GP is a vaccination expert? Or is it more likely that they take on the 'expert' opinion they are taught by rote?
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>>698375620
they couldnt *
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Friendly reminder that autism is present before birth, and there has never been a confirmed case of someone "getting autism" layer on.
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>>698370994
My brother almost died from one, i dunno i think it was a hot shot or some shit.
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>>698375692
later**
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>>698375620
wow you made the case that you should listen to professionals. im making the case that listening to professionals does not automatically mean you get the best/correct/accurate advice.
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>>698375448
No. Healthcare cost would explode if we stopped using vaccines.

Vaccines only work if a majority of the population is vaccinated. Even if you're vaccinated you can technically still get sick, it just gets so much more unlikely if everyone is resistant to it. BUT if retards start not getting vaccinated it endangers the rest of the fucking society, which in turn brings back shitty diseases which we thought we had gotten rid off, driving up health care cost.
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I'd rather have my infant have autism than polio or whooping cough
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>>698375805
This. The costs (and profits) of treating an illness are far greater than immunizing against it.
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>>698375656
>assuming GP is the person who spent half their life studying it.
I'm talking about the bio medical professionals that make the vaccines you autistic cunt. this is what I'm talking about, people think they are clever and so well informed today and then can't even come to a rational conclusion on things like chain of research and development.

GP is general, not a specialist, so why would you even use that in an arguement?
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>>698375620
Every case of polio in the US in the last decade was caused by the vaccine.
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Most vaccines are good, the more researched well developed one that is. Most complications with them are from the stupid FUCKING retards who give there child with a weak immune system every single fucking shot at once and it just rekts that kids shit, don't be a dumbass, give them over time.
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>>698375798
>don't listen to the professionals, listen to people online, better yet read medical studies that you won't understand large portions of, or you assume you understand and make your own choic3!

morons, morons everywhere
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>>698375624
No not whatever. You're playing with one of the most important issues out there, there is a reason why we don't have to die of shit like polio anymore. I know you're ignorant so you don't understand the significance of that.

tl:dr Jonas Salk was a national hero cause of the amount of suffering the relived, he's arguably one of the most important people in history.
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>>698375805
>>698375965
r u even reading?
refer to >>698375798


its pretty clear to me you have your own set opinion on vaccines and antivaxxers. I don't expect to 'get through to you' nor do i want to. just try to see both sides of the coin atleast
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>>698376103
polio, not autism. and everyone who wasn't dropped on their head knows that a vaccine has a chance to give you the disease, especially if you have a shit immune system, because you know, vaccines ARE the disease.
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>>698376103
Even say that is true which year would you rather have your kid live in when it comes to dodging polio?
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>>698376172
theres no "both sides to the coin" to be addressed because the side you're trying to advocate for was shit out by a group of retards that don't want to accept that their kids became fucked up and are looking for people to blame.

There's literally no evidence that shows vaccines cause autism, and the only arguements you have for the other side is "just because they're professionals doesn't mean they're right" it's a statement with no grounding and chalked full of paranoia
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>>698376172
"do you how much of decrease in health care costs will occur if people just start making decisions on their health and body instead of living and dying by the word of their doctor."

In response to

"we have anti vaccination people because we have a society of cents who think that Google makes them more informed that the professional that has spent half their life studying medicine."

See this >>698376172

>Literally this retarded.
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>>698371296
>speak out against it
believe it or not, tin-foil, every pharma company has competition on top of a bunch of assholes trying to undermine them all the time. exploitation in the context of vaccines would go as far as using an ineffective injection against something that isn't much of a threat anyway. that we can probably agree on, but the autist bullshit has never been true in any way and as soon as there is a hint of unreasonable hazard to anything in the medical industry it gets fucking BTFO without any questions. the ENTIRE reason that medicine is expensive here is that the US takes a fuckload of precautions and rails the industry with doubt.
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>>698376172
You quoted two separate people. It's not that I have a set opinion, it's that no one on the anti-vax side of things has ever produced a single shred of evidence from a reputable source to convince me otherwise. I've honestly considered every argument that's been used against me.
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>>698373303
How you can write out 4 paragraphs worth of drivel while using only one capitol letter and expect anyone to take what you say seriously is beyond me. I'd surely trust some random faggot on 4chan who cant be bothered to use the shift key when it comes to healthcare advice!
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While feel not getting your child vaccinated is child abuse, I am also not happy about the thought of forcing everyone to get vaccinated.

On one hand, you are setting your child up for horrible illnesses and potential death, on the other, you are enforcing (yet more) profits for big pharma using the gov't to strong arm the populace. Corporations exist to create profit, not help people, that is a side-effect of their chosen field(s) of business.

Plus muh slippery slope etc.

I guess the most effective measure is, as usual, education. An educated populace would know that vaccines aren't evil autism creating mind-control poisons made with industrial waste, but because o many people are so fucking goddamn stupid, they believe all sorts of retarded nonsense. Plus the whole irresponsibility culture we have atm doesn't help. People don't want to fix things and they certainly don't want to accept fault, so they push the responsibility onto whoever will take it.

Which is usually the gov't or some business, who would love even ore power and is happy to "help".

Still, we should definitely not blindly trust big pharma because they have a proven track record of pushing garbage onto the market for a quick buck and to hell with the consequences.
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>>698376685
Man I should have proof read that.
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>>698371296
>causing autism
you are born with autism you dont develop it later
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>>698372935
i bet she tells you a lot about jill stein too.
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>>698376685
Big pharma would rather have you on antibiotics for the rest of your life than give you some inexpensive vaccine.

It's anti pharma.
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>>698376353
Look at the graph you posted and look at the graphs of cases across year for other diseases. In most instances there is a steady decline of the disease before the vaccine was introduced. Factors such as improved healthcare, hygiene, living conditions,sanitation, nutrition etc etc began reducing the incidence of disease and have had a far greater impact on the reduction of disease than immunisation has.
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>>698376669
>Shits on someone about not using capital letters.
>Fails to use proper punctuation.
Pot meet kettle.
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>>698376103
Bitch you just mad cuz in the pool you dont get no Marco Polio
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>>698376932
They make the vaccines too, though, and billions while they are at it.

I vaguely recall some shit about a swine flu vaccine being peddled in germany or somewhere near there that was never properly tested. Maybe some people died?

Making 1/5th profit is better than 0/5ths.
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So im guessing noone has direct links to case studies on this one? Also, if you dont want your kid vaccinated why not move? Im sure you could find a "vaxless" community that keeps your kids away from the schools and other kids that have been vaccinated.
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>>698376955
You saw cases jump up and down all over the years.

Wasn't untill the vaccine that it truly dropped to insignificance.

But yes you can prevent most cases of Cholera by not shitting in your drinking water if that is the point you're trying to make.
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>>698376955
look at the graph again, the pattern shows a dip in infection, followed by a sharp increase for the past 25 years prior to the vaccine. following that trend, it was set to explode again with more infections, instead they became non existent within the next few years. that points to the vaccination, not healthcare and sanitation.
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>>698377058
*Ignorant fucktard enters the conversation*
Go back to rimming your dads asshole, this conversation is not for you.
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>>698377174
We're talking percentiles of their profits. Not using vaccines would cause a vast increase in the need for what they really make their money with, painkillers and antibiotics.
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>>698376958
Notice how I didn't give out any fucking medical advice? I think you are right though, that vaccine gave you autism.
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Itt
>conspiracy theorists forget about human error and basic science as usual
Move along
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>>698377326
What I posted was 1000 times smarter than the shit you posted.
>Polio vaccine gives ppl polio (I didn't know thats how vaccines work though :< )
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>>698377364
Well it doesn't.

The idea is absurd. Also if you see an increase in autism after the definition is expanded do you contribute that to.

A: The definition being expanded
B: Vaccines
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parents just want to blame the loss of the genetic lottery leading to autism on something other than themselves and that quack scientist back in the 90's was the one who gave them that option
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>>698373303

>gardasil
>autism

Gardasil is administered to teens. Teens don't "contract autism".

You, of course, being the obvious exception.
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>>698371296
Found the anti Vax blog tard
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>>698377544
Dubs speak truth
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>>698377544
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>>698377339
That reminds me of our public healthcare budgets cuts, actually.

It seemed so bizarre to me that they keep taking money away from people who need medical help. All it does is turn a treatable condition into a chronic one where people need to take medication for years...

Then I was like oh no. It couldn't be?
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>>698377543
Is joke, dude has autism and thinks vaccines cause autism therefore the vaccines he got as a child gave him autism.
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>>698371485
This
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>>698377777
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>>698377775
I stand corrected

Your punishment will be 1 off pentadruple
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>>698370994
>What do you think of people who don't believe vaccination works?

Vaccines don't work. Plain and simple.

>>698370994
>http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/hey-anti-vaxxers-connect-dots-article-1.2668918

$100 says she never breastfed her baby.

Also, doctors doing the rally cry for vaccines have an ulterior motive, and you would probably be surprised to learn that doctors don't vaccinate their own kids.
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>>698371296
>there have been many documented cases of vaccines causing autism
One study stated that preservatives in vaccines could cause autism, it was debunked as fraud.
Not as wrong, or mistaken, but as fraud.
Now all these idiots are threatening the rest of us with their stupidity.
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>>698377760
Noone wants to take care of old people. Their bodies fall apart and they lose their minds. We stopped giving a shit and decided it would be easier to cut funding and just produce meds for them. I think the ratio is 15 people in a group home for 2 orderlies? Id rather give you your meds and leave you there so i dont watch you go senile and shit yourself.
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>>698377760
Don't get the "Then I was like oh no. It couldn't be?" But yeah you're right. It a dumb policy. Kinda like locking up 2.5 million people for smoking weed.
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>>698377932
I saw, I wept
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>>698374764
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>>698371485
Point of fact. It was discredited because the claim was fraudulent. Even before being discredited the data still didn't show a link.
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>>698373322
You're a special kind of stupid aren't you?
And such a waste of double dubs.
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>>698377971
>vaccine
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/106/2/e28
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>>698377537
Why are you still here hemaroid? Your post were very smart blah blah blah, and everyone if very grateful that you showed up to demonstrate the detrimental effects of vaccination and failed abortion attempts, but it is time to go back to raping your grandmother with your feminine 'penis'.
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>>698377971
>$100 says she never breastfed her baby.

Here we are folls, another example of a person who doesn't understand vaccines and antibodies.

1. parents in article contracted chicken pox from the baby, so they had no antibodies as well, the mothers breast milk would not have contained antibodies for the baby to protect it, because of this.

2. antibodies passed from mother to baby only help the child for 6 to 8 months after birth. this kid was 11 months old.

so yeah, you're dumb.
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Yo I had chicken pox from eating at kfc, there I met Biggie Smallspox
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>>698371485
http://www.thevaccinereaction.org/2015/06/what-the-news-isnt-saying-about-vaccine-autism-studies/
you can jump to: A Small Sample for many studies linking autism to vaccines
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good goyim, inject your children with the needled jew
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>>698378371
Look at him go! Baby's first book of insults. You are the worlds greatest argument for partial birth abortions. Take a deep breath, calm down before you squirt in your panties and chill the fuck out sperglord. Why are you even mad anyways lmao?
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>>698378540
did you read that? because all of the parentheses say that each claim had multiple studies that contradict the findings, or the finds were unable to be duplicated.

if you can't duplicate findings, then they aren't findings, they anomalies that are dismissed.
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To the sheep that believe vaccines work:

"It is dangerous to let the public behind the scenes. They are easily disillusioned and then they are angry with you, for it was the illusion they loved."

Are you willing seek out reality? Or do you wish to remain ignorant parrots?
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I think there is something about the MMR vaccine specifically that is questionable and being kept under wraps. There's something about African American kids under 2 floating around. However, the benefits seem to outweigh the risk. The definition of modern medicine.
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>>698378540
"Similarly, a 5-year study of 79,000 children by the same institution found boys given Hepatitis B vaccine at birth had a three times increased risk for autism than boys vaccinated later or not at all. Nonwhite boys were at greatest risk. (“Weak study,” say the critics.)"

>Weak study
>say the critics

What you mean the fucking study itself.

"Lower maternal education level has been associated with greater likelihood
of having a vaccination record at home
(Suarez et al., 1997); thus, the effect of maternal education may have been underestimated. Incomplete and missing data may introduce bias in the analysis."

Are these people literally retarded?
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>>698379180
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>>698378847
>To the sheep that believe vaccines work
>what doesn't kill me makes me stronger
>if I get chicken pox at a young age it will be harder for me to get it again later due to immunizes
>if we take this sample of a virus in a weakened state and release it into a patients body he will fight it off and gain an added layer of protection
>fuck that people are just parrots unlike me the smarter than your average bear fedora lord sleeping in his moms basement eating chicken nuggets and doritos, the diet of a true enlightened truth warrior

You are the load your mother should have swallowed
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>>698378847
So what stopped small pox, polio, mumps ext? Was it Jesus?
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>>698379657
Yes
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In March 2004 smallpox scabs were found tucked inside an envelope in a book on Civil War medicine in Santa Fe, New Mexico. http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/2003-12-26-smallpox-in-envelope_x.htm
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>>698378727
No one is mad at you shit-for-brains. You are just making it uncomfortable for anons to talk about retards when you are present and might get your feelings hurt. Hush now your dogs anus is dry and needs the caress of your tongue.
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>>698379835
Pack it in bro, obviously my little Marco Polio joke triggered you something fierce. Good thing you didn't find these scabs >>698379733 you'd have probably eaten them. Your tendies are getting cold btw.
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>>698379733
smallpox scabs were used to vaccinate against smallpox at one point, so I'm not surprised?
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>>698371296
This anon is correct.
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>>698371485
3 year old girl died from flu shot fuck off
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>>698378423
>1. parents in article contracted chicken pox from the baby, so they had no antibodies as well, the mothers breast milk would not have contained antibodies for the baby to protect it, because of this.
>2. antibodies passed from mother to baby only help the child for 6 to 8 months after birth. this kid was 11 months old.

So says the dupe that googled "breast milk protect against chicken pox" and gets spoon fed from an ibclc, who is not a medical professional.

you're simply wrong brother.

you assume my post meant the kid wouldn't have gotten chicken pox. my post was merely to shed light on the fact that the lady didn't breastfeed. she didn't do the most basic thing to protect her child. if she had, the kid's chicken pox would have been a lesser scale. further, she should be glad her kid had chicken pox. she should bring back the old chicken pox parties.
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Conspiracy theorists are statistically of lower than average human intelligence. They are the easiest social group to mislead with falsified scientific research.
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>>698380031
Can you explain your Marco Polio joke that one over my head
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>>698380069
That would be fucking scary to find though, like finding autism in a needle.....

>>698380115
Due to a shitty immune system, not fucking autism. The only people here who are going to die from autism is this >>698379835 sperglord when he realizes that he will never put his dick in anything living and tries out the buckshot mouthwash
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>>698380162
didn't have to Google that shit about breast milk.

>you're simply wrong
nice rebuttal, multi studies support my side, your opinion supports yours.

>would have been lesser had she breastfed
with what magical breast medicine would have made it lesser?

the main benefit of breast milk is the antibodies. the nutrients in breast milk are easier for a kid to digest, thus absorb more, but would not deter or treat a viral infection.
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>>698380206
Theyre also revealed to be right at some point. How many paranoid nut jobs actually had government files on their lives and activities. Nixon had a fucking list of people he wanted dead for fucks sake
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>>698379657
sanitation and nutrition
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>>698370994
I think they're total fucking morons who should be castrated and have their ovaries removed. If you don't want to vaccinate your child, them don't have children. STOP SPREADING DISEASES THAT ARE DYING OUT!!!!!!!
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>>698380444
She died from flu shot complications. It gave her flu and killed her. Any shitbrain knows that there is no way to make an effective flu vaccine that isn't self mutating at the rate the virus itself mutates
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>>698375448
>do you how much of decrease in health care costs will occur if people just start making decisions on their health and body instead of living and dying by the word of their doctor.
You realise we live in this society right now? You think doctors prescribe smoking, fatty foods and sitting at home all day?

Get real. People already have the freedom to do mostly what they want with their bodies, they just ignore the information as always, because "hurr its my body i know better"
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>>698379657
>So what stopped small pox, polio, mumps ext? Was it Jesus?

small pox? cleanliness, sanitation. it's pathetic to think we eradicated smallpox with vaccines when less than 10% of the population was ever vaccinated.

polio? never went away, just received new names like acute flaccid paralysis, transverse myelitis, viral meningitis, spinal meningitis, spinal apoplexy, and on and on.

mumps? seriously?
http://www.digitaljournal.com/life/health/ohio-state-has-the-mumps-all-but-one-infected-were-vaccinated/article/377216
http://www.fios1news.com/longisland/long-beach-mumps-outbreak#.V6I_BlJrjIX
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>>698380610
>highest rates of infection, suddenly explosion of sanitation and nutrition rates.

doubt it.
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>>698380639
So my grandpa that ended up in the ER 3 separate times after 3 separate flu vaccines was just unlucky there's no way that it's not a coincedence. He swore off then after the 3rd flu vaccine he got almost killed him come near me with that shot and I'll fucking murder your entire existence
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>>698380206
>Conspiracy theorists
hey sheeple, how's your Bilderberger / New World Order "conspiracy theory" government working out for you? Got your daily fluoride dose?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/conspiracy-theory-foundations-of-a-weaponized-term/5319708
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2013/07/cia-invention-of-the-phrase-conspiracy-theory-to-block-questions-on-jfks-assassination-is-one-of-the-most-successful-propaganda-initiatives-of-all-time-2453052.html
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>>698380610
Yeah, washing our hands and eating more vegtables really did the trick, before that everyone just ate shit.


>>698380779
Who gives a shit what she died from, you made it a point that some kid died from the flu shot in reply to
>There was a single study that stated a single vaccine caused autism.
Like the kid dying somehow discredited his post.
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>>698375798
>listening to someone who went to college for 8+ years to be a doctor isnt the best idea
>deciding for yourself is better

Did you go to medical school? If you did then i fully agree with you. But im going on a limb and saying you didnt go to medical school. So your doctor knows more than you about medicines. I promise.
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>>698381146
Yeah, washing our hands and eating more vegtables really did the trick, before that everyone just ate shit.

Washing our hands did do something
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death
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>>698381141
WAKE UP SHEEPLE EVERYONE IS HITLER EXCEPT CLINTON
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>>698381092
belief in and submission to authority is a powerful drive of the human animal
medicine is daddy-mommy to those sheeple, dont even bother
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>>698381092
the first shot proved your grandfather's immune system couldn't handle a flu vaccine, which is the flu itself, just weakend.

the second one confirmed this.

the third one confirmed that your grandfather is fucking retarded and should have died from something long ago, to prevent spreading his autism to your father and then you.
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>>698381092
>come near me with that shot and I'll fucking murder your entire existence

Watch your step around this one he's dangerous.
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>>698381253
sheeplethink demonstrated
>trust whoever wears the right coat and hat, goyim
>they are experts, they know better
>also they can be trusted with your children's lives, oy vey why are you doubting our slaves in lab coats goyim?
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>>698381141
>fluoride dose
more bottle water is being consumed than tap, unless you're suggesting bottle water has fluoride without being on the label.
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>>698381355
If you sound this insane on the internet i wonder how you sound irl.
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>>698381290
>Links to Wikipedia
>Expects people to take him seriously
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>>698381290
The plague is not smallpox
The plague was also spread through fleas from rats more than eating shit
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>>698372428
There are still gullible plebs that believe 9/11 was an inside job. And chem trails - because they're too stupid to science.
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>>698381392
He survived the war bitch. You survived Cheetos and adventure time and he's the weak one . Kek
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>>698381646
>I know he has a point, but I'll just make a comment about wikipedia

>>698381733
>The plague was also spread through fleas from rats more than eating shit
Good thing I pointed out the hygiene part and not the diet part.
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>>698381551
Lmao are you retarded? The clothes dont make them an expert. The fucking college degrees hanging in their office shows theyre an expert. You dense fuck. And im positive you dont have near as much knowledge on this as you think you do compared to a doctor.
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>>698381343
nice copout
do i have to spell out my argument to you?
bilderberger/NWO were "outrageous conspi theories" 15 years ago; now the MSM journalists admit they're true, even the world leaders boast about the NWO.
you're sheeple.

>>698381615
thank you goysheeple, coming from you it's a compliment
hint: you're confusing non conventional thinking (not submissive to social norms) with insanity
that's what makes you a lowly sheeple
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>>698381290
Bro this dude >>698381551 is so full of shit that by your hypothesis he should have the fucking plague by now (although he seems to have the autism)
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>>698381557
Yes. That's happened a few times. Remember when a bottled water was revealed to literally be tap water. Cheap bottles water selling bastards
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>>698373303
See the cool thing about science is that it's true whether you believe it or not.
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>>698371770
>cite sources
>le reddit maymay
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>>698381868
>survived the war
so he got lucky and wasn't struck by a bullet or possibly sent to an active theatre site, thus proving his superior genetics and worthiness of being spread.

you're just as retarded as he is.
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>>698381973
>>698381733
samefag
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We need to stop treating these morons like adults.

>If you are too stupid to even acknowledge your own stupidity you don't have a right to control others health decisions.
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>>698381615
Smart motherfuckers sound like crazy motherfuckers to dumb motherfuckers
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>>698371969
the world has moved on oldfag
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>>698381978
it was revealed to be tap water that was filtered. it got into trouble because it was marketed as spring water.

it still didn't have fluoride in it
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>>698382110
No body in this thread is fucking anyones mother.

>>698382068
Good job? I'm not pretending to be two people.
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>>698382194
bottle water got in trouble? did it get sent to time out?
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>>698381557
that was a quip, fluoride matters but we're not discussing it rn and tbh i have no clue how widespread it's administrated and how the agenda is working*

>>698381847
you misspelled : because they dont believe what their government tells them

>>698381898
>i trust people because they've been through schooling
this is what retards actually do
sorry boy, grow up
current year, widespread internet access, free speech and you rely on nutjobs working for the devil because you're too dumbed down and scared to imagine that just maybe they're not anymore ethical than car salesmen
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>>698377971
>Also, doctors doing the rally cry for vaccines have an ulterior motive

You think doctors and drug companies have ulterior motives, try scammers selling books and producing videos for YouTube.

The asshole who kicked this all off was a scammer working for a law firm looking for a reason to sue over vaccines, so he invented one out of thin air. This noble pureheart...neglected to mention this to people like you, who are concerned over conflicts of interest.
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>vaccines cause autism
>correlation is causation.
>no science educatation or training
>herd immunity
>until one outsider infects the whole herd
>bring back iron lungs

Anti vaxxer's are the absolute dumbest cult out there. Those and the anti GMO. Fucking kill yourself before you kill your kid.
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>>698381973
>by your hypothesis he should have the fucking plague by now
No, because I didn't mention the diet.

>although he seems to have the autism
Irony.
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sanitation and nutrition
https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/#.UWD5khEaAq8.facebook
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>>698382349
>>698382349
ohi McCarthy
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>>698382469
say the slave advocating injecting children with black sorcery soups he has no oversight of
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>>698382026
He got shot several times. You just keep sounding more and more retarded with each post kek. He also did laundry in a liberated gas chamber (all the clothes get in the washer kek)
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>>698382644
Holy fuck shit there it is again..correlation IS NOT causation.

Fucking science illiterate twat.
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>>698381253
>Did you go to medical school?

it never ceases to amaze me that people think doctors are experts, and seemingly omniscient.

you DO realize that people can get as little as 14 out of 45 composite on their MCAT? (actually as low as 5)
http://medicalschoolhq.net/mcat-scores-what-do-i-need/

should i tell you about the rest of the med school application?

in grade school and beyond, getting a 61% on a test is passing.

there are doctors who got the equivalent of a 61 to become a doctor.

don't be so stupid
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>>698382644
By that argument can say microwaves caused SIDS.

Moron.
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>>698382548
>>698382548
>sanitation
>I didn't mention diet (but I did conveniently ignore the whole eating shit is unsanitary bit so I can have something to nitpick and argue about)
>lol ur the one with the autism
>I hope I can find another loophole in his next post to nitpick :<

Go ahead, reply again.
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>>698370994
http://www.australiannationalreview.com/infant-dies-after-receiving-13-vaccines-in-one-day/
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>>698382194
Bottled water should never be filtered since it should never be fucking tap. Should be nectar of God's from clean water.
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>>698383011
How many have died of polio, measles, mumps, etc?
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>>698382840
>correlation is not causation
are you willing to engrave that on your children's tombstones?
do you believe those billions were payed in damage reparations without the courts having established causation against the multibillion dollar industry that writes its own laws in your land?
>>698378540
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anyone who supports any kind of society or community is a cuck
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>>698382644
SIDS is caused by shitty parenting. Fact
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>>698382806
you have little to no reading comprehension.

your faggot grandfather didn't survive because he was a trained hard ass, he didn't survive because his genetics allowed him to be immune to bullets.

you proved my point by saying he was shot several times, he survived because he was lucky, not smart. he happen to be shot and luckily didn't die (most likely because of medicine and techniques produced by medical professionals, whom you and he now find untrustworthy because grampy got a fever)

do the world a favor and cut your dick off before you spread your grandfather's mistake to another generation.
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>>698382917
How does a 15 MCAT compare to a few hours of listening to misleading YouTube videos "that are just asking questions"?
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>>698383147
>How many have died of polio, measles, mumps, etc?

>>698380983
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>>698383147
Those are necessary vaccines. The flu vaccine is not. Can we agree on that?
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you're sheeple, it's not your fault, it comes back to how the human species was created
but you dont have to be WILLINGLY sheeplish, you can admit you react like sheeple and try to trigger yourselves out of that disgusting suicidal behavior, instead of denying it and keeping doing it blindly
then you'll be called insane by the sheeple and you'll understand
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>>698372935
To be fair, Im pretty sure cellphones today are the cigarettes of the fifties and we're all gonna get laughed at for it
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>>698383236
BILLIONS? Bwahahahhaah you are a special kind of stupid. Also..argue in meme's? You lack intellect to be here. Go play Pokemon.
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>>698383258
lie.
first google link
http://www.thinktwice.com/sids.htm
you dont deserve anymore godly googledigging pampering you, do it yourself
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>>698383365
>How does a 15 MCAT compare to a few hours of listening to misleading YouTube videos "that are just asking questions"?

wouldn't know. youtube is for millenials.

care to offer every single bit of research you've done to support your views? or did you just listen to a few of people you believe are experts?
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>>698383260
Jesus fuck you should be euthanized. So fatty mc burgerjerk and fitness mc leanmeat will both have the same chance of recovery when shot in the leg despite fatty mc burgerjerks severe vitamin deficincey. Healthy fit people's bodies can take more before they give out. Fatty will pass out and die from the gunshot before mc lean
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>>698383413
The flu is generally only deadly for the elderly, and RARLEY infants and children. It's optional and should be. The others are absolutely needed, unless one is ok with spreading killing diseases across the population.
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>>698383860
Plus the flu mutates so much hard to pick the right strain anyway.
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>>698383331
Add 15 green people in number 3 to show the people that died from the vaccine itself and it starts to turn morbid sickfuckwad
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Fuck vaccines and autism and jews and shit, THE REAL PROBLEM IS THE MICROWAVES GIVING ALL OF OUR KIDS AIDS
WAKE UP SHEEPLE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_Aids
https://www.aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics/hiv-aids-101/how-you-get-hiv-aids/
http://www.infowars.com/how_my_hungry_man_dinner_gave_me_HIV
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>>698383607
yes the picture i posted then linked to in the post you replied to shows a total of over 3 billion dollars awards granted to petitioners of vaccine injury compensation from 1989 to 2016
you didnt blow it up did you?
you cant even open the link i'm giving to substantiate my claim?
here it is again, click it this time

>>698378540
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>>698383707
by your argument, any research that you read, would have to have been conducted by an expert, therefore Inna curate because "hurr durr experts aren't experts". so any research you do on your own, you'd have to complete in a lab with your own hands. but wait, then the results would be flawed because you didn't carry out proper techniques for handling and transporting specimens.

or to go further, even if you somehow new proper protocol for carrying out, completing and interpreting the experiment, this easy developed by experts over the last few centuries, so it can't be trusted!
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>>698383860
Holy fuck a sensible person thank you
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anyway bye sheeple, grow up, stop eating government and business dick
pro tip: they dont care about you
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>>698382984
>I make a point about hygiene
>You respond to my point about diet
>Has a go at me

I wasn't trying to make a point about diet, because it didn't have anything to do with what I said. You decided to make 2 posts trying to be funny about a point I never made.

Go ahead, reply again
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vaccines were created as a way for population control

since no one wants to start a war since the elite are afraid of the collateral damage since they would die too, vaccines are the new way of culling the herd and keep the population controlled
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People who think/believe that vaccination causes autism are the type of people who forget to breath and need to be executed for the better of man kind.

You're autistic if you think vaccination causes autism...
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>>698383790
>Implying the army would allow fat people to join
>Implying fat people don't have more blood to help resist bleeding out
>Implying fat people don't have denser bones or more fat to reduce the damage from trauma such as a gunshot
>Implying this has fuck all to do with your grandpappy just being too old to handle a flu shot in his golden years
>Implying you know anything about anything
>Implying you are not just getting angry for the sake of being angry at person online
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>>698383987
Finally people are getting it. Thank you sweet gummy bear Jesus thank you.
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>>698375448
You want to talk about healthcare costs?
With what the U.S government budgeted this year towards Medicare/Medicaid and subsidies you could give every citizen a 4000 dollar health savings account. If it weren't for the subsidies hyperinflating costs and regulations keeping newcomers from entering the market, the cost of vaccines and most healthcare would drop to an almost negligible/affordable amount.
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>>698384017
Those ingredients, kek

Do you even understand
>chemistry
>biochemistry
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>>698383790
>implying your grandfather's physique during an Era that was saturated with fast food had anything to do with genetics.

1. being in shape has nothing to do with genetics, if you believe that, then your a fat fuck that should Kilmer yourself.

2. people die of shock from gun wounds more often than the gun shot itself, which has nothing to do with how physically in shape you are faggot.

3. homeless and addicts are more likely to survive a gunshot because they do not go into shock as easily. there have been cases of people being shot multiple times and simply walking to get help.


stop fucking posting already, you're an idiot.
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>>698384155
>bye sheeple
>posts quote for someone else because they can't articulate an opinion for themselves

Great irony
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>>698370994

>Believes a kid should be given a dozen of vaccines before turning 1
Are you mentally challenged, bullied in school or just generally a fucking idiot?
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>>698384170
So you thing eating shit is sanitary?

K den
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>>698384017
Your link is a garbage antivax site with no proof. It just uses the same garbage pictures you have with dubious claims and alarmist reactions. Face it, you're a sheep that will believe anything presented to you as long as it's a conspiracy theory.
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>>698384425
>wasn't saturated*
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>>698384085
what my post meant, since you have comprehension issues, is that you're asserting that people against vaccines watch youtube videos for a few hours as their sole source of education - and i pointed out that you merely choose another source for your education, but also only dedicate a few hours to the endeavor

thus, you're a fucking tool for attacking people that do the same thing you do

in my case, i am neither of you.
i researched hundreds of hours of everything from both sides, and continue to do so to this day.

hope that helps you with your comprehension shortfall
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>>698384122
You are welcome.

Just vaccinate your kids. This isn't up for debate. The diseases are real and really bad. Society has forgotten what it's like to suffer from these diseases. Therefore we are spoiled and don't understand. The generations that have suffered are dying of old age and not on social media to give examples of what life was like. Why?

VACCINES.
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>>698382349
9/11 truthers are literally the stupidest people on earth. They ignore reality and logic and grasp onto unfounded bullshit.

Thousands of people working in WTC everyday.... no one notices secret government demolition crews setting explosives. Kek
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I always just link one video when someone starts talking about this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfdZTZQvuCo
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>>698370994
I work with autistic children some vaccinated other not vacations have nothing to do with autism
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>>698373303
Tin foil hats on too tight.

dude you are seriously so ignorant on how science and medicine works.
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I don't believe in getting vaccines and I think global warming is made up. Deal with it. Only way I would get a vaccine is if i was bit by a rabbit animal.
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>>698384570
>Just vaccinate your kids. This isn't up for debate.

following your beliefs, since you're vaccinated, you have nothing worry about when it comes to people that aren't vaccinated
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>>698384503
Again, you keep trying to argue a point I never made. Why are you being dense?

Are you at the point where it's easier to act 9 instead of grasping concepts?
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>>698384375
>somehow implying fat people are either healthier than others or that fat people are better at surviving when injured.
FuckingultimatemegaKEK
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>>698384816
Maybe because I have a heart and don't want to see other kids suffer and die from devastating diseases? Maybe?
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>>698378423
Parent got chicken pox, means they temselves weren't vaccinated. Darwin Award.
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>>698384891
So gramps was fat?

>>698384853
Don't you have some shit to eat?

(get that last word in at all costs)
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>>698374764
>Trusts the government to completely and advantageously manage healthcare but not education
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>>698382791
Neuroscience student here, you're an absolute dolt.
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>>698370994
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-y_N4u0uRQ
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>>698384425
What? My post has nothing whatsoever to do with that. Are you having a stroke or seizure? Should I call 911. Is your breathing obstructed sir. DO YOU NEED MEDICAL ASSISTANCE!

The post says fat people are physically frailer than fit people and yes. Fat people's injuries take longer to heal.
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>>698374764
They are ridiculed because they don't read or take into consideration reports that a varified that prove vaccines dont't cause autism yet glorify and worship one fraudulent paper saying they "might" cause autism.

You cant pick and choose facts that you want to believe you fucking nitwit
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wake up
>>698383993
wake up
>>698383993
wake up
>>698383993
wake up
>>698383993
ITS NOT TOO LATE
wake up
>>698383993
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>>698385223
That's called confirmation bias. Anti vaxxer's are full of it.
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>>698385093
>When you know you've been defeated but you have to save face on an anonymous imaegboard where no one knows who you are

Stay cool
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>>698371485
Yes this. Vaccines elicit an immune response. If they caused autism, so would actually getting the disease that you were vaccinated from.
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>>698378540
>>698384017
dumdum, read
>>698378822

>To be clear: no study to date conclusively proves or disproves a causal link between vaccines and autism and—despite the misreporting—none has claimed to do so. Each typically finds either (a) no association or (b) a possible association on a narrow vaccine-autism question. Taken as a whole, the research on both sides serves as a body of evidence.

>no link or statistic anomaly.

did you even read the link you use as your proof?

The main reason that autism is sky rocketing is that more stuff falls under the umbrella of autism now.

>>698385094
I kinda get where he is coming from. ´Durr, we must teach creationism alongsifde evolution cuz mah bibble
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>>698384560
>implying I'm the same guy

my point still stands. you faggots argue that the doctors can't be trusted because of this or that. then nothing can be trust unless you go back yourself and study, understand and duplicate every step that was developed for the result of a research project. that's steps that were developed over multiple centuries. it would take you probably decades just to study, understand and duplicate the methods for chain of custody on biological specimen itself. if you don't do this, then you're at some point trusting a professional who came up with this meyhod, which would be scrutinized by his peers. so why is it OK for this professional to be trust, but not the current ones?

how are you not seeing why you're stupid yet?
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>>698374895
You're a retard. Science shows facts and truths. Are you going to tell me the laws of thermodynamics are "uncertain"? Faggot
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zombie outbreak now
We fucking need it now
>im so god damn ready
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I bet none of the olympic athletes got vaccines and look at them
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>>698385305
>muh last word


What were we even arguing about in the first place? I said that sanitation wasn't as important as vacination, and that fleas from plague rats had more to do with the plague than not washing hands. You had a point somewhere but fuck if I care anymore, im more worried about getting aids from the microwave
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>>698385470
Ready for what exactly?
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>>698374764
Yeah there were antivaxx people back then, hell--when Pasteur pioneered the cowpox vaccine (where the word comes from, vaca, cow) there were people against it. However, when people saw that it was helping, and even curing often lethal or disfiguring illnesses they mostly hopped on board. It's only now where people are so privileged and comfortable as to have never really had a microbial health scare or lived in an area where these diseases are still endemic. Go look at wiki articles for the diseases we vaccinate for. Go seriously look at photos and read the stories of people who survived and those who died. Then get off the fucking Internet, go outside, and thank whatever feels most comfortable that people who you don't know are looking out for your health and safety while still allowing you the freedom to be an utterly moronic jizzcock.

That goes triple for anyone else in the thread who is anti-vax

And for the record, getting a fever from gardisil is better than having viral cancers rot away your cervix and uterus or dick or asshole. Fucking idiot.
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Look at this as a good think. Natural selection will weed out the retards that believe vaccinations and science are bad.
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THE MICROWAVES GIVING ALL OF OUR KIDS AIDS
WAKE UP SHEEPLE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_Aids
https://www.aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics/hiv-aids-101/how-you-get-hiv-aids/
http://www.infowars.com/how_my_hungry_man_dinner_gave_me_HIV
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>>698385213
which still has nothing to do with genetics. which you are conveniently skipping sround. so back to the ooint. you and your grandfather are fucking faggots and should kill yourselves before spreading your autism around about not getting vaccinate because grampy got sick 3 times from being an old fuck with shitty immune system. somehow you still don't comprehend this all because grampa didn't die in a fucking war 70 years ago.
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>>698385607
The fuckin downfall
The collapse
The apocalypse
The time where my desires can be free
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>>698385752
That was my first post in the thread, I had no prior argument. Nice meme picture ill trade you
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>>698385598
And my point was due to a large overhaul in public sanitation (from building proper drainage, to public baths) played a massive part in keeping plague at bay in a lot of areas.

Rats are attracted to filth. Less rats = less fleas = less plague to go around.

Don't forget that the toilet for everyone "back in the day" was a chamber pot that you emptied out of your bedroom window.
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>>698385664
Maybe..but also innocent children who would probably believe in the science but had no choice because their parents killed them.
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>>698385476
gaurantee they got the recommended vaccines for visicing brazil. especially ones with corporate sponsorship for jobs outside of the olympics.
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>>698385895
So we were arguing over a misunderstanding then.
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>>698385664
The problem is tad more difficult than that.
>polio resurfaces
>sufficient non vaccinated people to cause polio to mutate/evolve.
>new strain too different from previous for the vaccine to be effective.
>zombies eveeerrywhere.
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Anti vaxers are as bad as flat earthers, they both pretend they know some hidden or forbidden knowledge to feel better about their intellectual shortcomings
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>>698385983
They should have gotten a lead vaccination from all those bullets out there
BR? BR! BR BR? HUEHUEUHEUHUHEUHE
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>>698386023
All 4chan arguments are retarded, no matter what the cause. You enjoy your day now.
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>>698385664
it will also kill people that are allergic to the vaccines, or have compromised immune systems. so not a good thing, especially allergies when you have no control over that
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>>698386063
They'll be whiped on during the cleansing period
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>>698386117
Fuck that I'm not enjoying shit who are you to tell me what to do

(u too boss)
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>>698371969
Funny enough, I'm off to pay for this for my child next week. Its not given for free in the UK for various reasons. But I'm fucked if I'm going to stand by and watch my kids suffer for the benefit of others.
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>>698382791
>Cancer virus
Retard
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>>698384444
Yeah let me just pump my 20lb bowling ball of joy with a 1 liter of poison cocktail that'll make it healthy enough to fight off them commies while still ensuring it gets it's 3 delicious burger combo meals a day. The American superhero: 100 lbs overweight shoved full of chemicals and hopped up on bible juice, flying through the air in the back of a cargo plane ready to dole out bald eagle justice on the malicious Mr.Muslim and the nefarious Neganigger by brutally ravaging there evil lives. Today! The amazing Americunt battles the terrifying Trans Twins And thwarts their evil plot of going to the store for some chips by beating them senseless and verbally berating them. "Another day saved by the amazing americunt. Now off to shoot heroinwith a bunch of kids. Amazing americunt AWAAAAYYYYYY!".
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>>698386337
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>>698386114
Bullets are the only true vaccination
>kikes and impurities will burn like the underbrush that chokes the oak tree
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>>698386389
Tell us how you really feel
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>>698384503
There are people that live in the mountains smoking poop and eating people and they're 120 years old.
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>>698383992
You can't be this stupid can you? There are 49 green people, 15 dead would equate a 31% mortality rate. In 2015 there were 147.7 million influenza vaccinations, and VEARS only reported 122 vaccine related deaths. Not factoring in any other vaccines gives a mortality rate of .000083%, or .00004 green guys.
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>>698385876
Kek, good trade
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>>698386587
Would die as soon as they are exposed to a vaccinatble disease.
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>>698384685
Uhm don't get me wrong here, those conspiracy nuts are retarded, but couldn't something like that easily be passed off as some construction or maintenance bullshit?
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>>698386523
>pic
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>>698386587
Smoked poop gets sterilized along with cooked human flesh. Prions from eating brain matter is a scary threat though. Fatal Familial Insomnia and CJD
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>>698385093
He was average. Actual average not American average.
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>>698386736

But they never leave their mountains so that's a moot point
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>>698386217
good job anon
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>>698386217

enjoy your autistic kid and have fun counting to potato
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>>698386872
not sure if bait or just retarded
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>>698386820
So we should never leave our house? Block? City?

Point not moot. A outsider unvaccinated comes to their mountain kills half of them. But it's ok? Right? The douche that didn't get vaccinated is ok and that's all that matters? Not that he killed half a village.
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>>698386872
Sorry i gotta kill your kind by the handful during the collapse
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I'm fine with it.
population control for dummys.
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>>698384017

Your list does even contain the most deadly of ingredients, where the fuck is the dihydrogen monoxide!?
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>>698387101
This guy will be our brother in arms when shit hits the fan
We need to clean the gene pools
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>>698387050
not too keen on guns but why is there a shotgun shell next to a magnum?
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>>698387221
>>698387221
>pool
Marco Polio
>Shit on fan
Unsanitary
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>>698385725
WHERE THE FUCK DO I TALK ABBBBBOUT GENETICS YOU STUPID FUCKWARBLER I SHIT SAY A FUCK THING YOUR GADDAMN RETARDFUCKED YOU FUCKING COXKSHIT ILL BURN YOU AND FUCK THE ASHES WHILE SCRWAMING THAT YOUR GOD A LIE. ILL SLURRY YOUR PETS AN FEED THEM UP YOUR ASS WITH PEPPERS! I'LL RAPE YOUR HOUSE FAGGOT STUPID SHIT COCKDONGLLER SHITFUCKER TOVDWATHFUCKYOUMO.ASHESBURN YOU DUCMYOURASHESASHE YOURDUXKSICKINGSHITFUCKMORHERCUCKINGFUCKSHITMURDERDEATHBONERSHITFAGCCCCCCCUNTDICK
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>>698385725
He got them at he young too retard faggot kill everyone but yourself the world has been tainted with your stench
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>>698386523
Is it bad that that's really how I feel?
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>>698385895
Rats aren't attracted to filth, dipshit. Humans are filthy, filthy, filthy animals and our waste attracts vermin who know they can get pretty much infinite low-risk food from hanging around us.

hygiene prevented the plague was because humans were cleaner and thusly attracted fewer disease vectors.
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>>698376955
Because sanitation and hygiene improved leaps and bounds between 1955 and 1961. This has to be bait. No one can be this retarded.
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>>698387437
Because these high caliber revolvers can shoot them
>>698387442
>Marco polio
Oh fuck my sides
>>698387556
We will see who is filth during the blood cum
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>>698380162
>chicken pox parties
Yeah no, kids should be vaccinated against chicken pox.
My mom did that chicken pox party shit, when I got it I was landed in the hospital because I had chicken pox all down my throat and shit, triggered an asthma attack.
Cut to getting too much medicine for the asthma and throwing up, only made it worse.
You don't know what kind of reaction a child will have, why risk putting them through hell?
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>>698387790
Nah, I don't blame you
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>>698386650
When you and up as one of those 122 it won't matter
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>>698387927
>why risk putting them through hell?
EXACTLY MY POINT! WHY RISK GETTING A VACCINE THAT COULD CAUSE AUTISM OR WORSE


Glad somebody here is reasonable.
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>>698387450
>>698387556
>he survived the war
only way that would be beneficial to you or him surviving, would be to pass on genes, that's where genetics came in you mong.

if he was in WWII, the first flu vaccine came about in 1938. so he would have to have been ATLEAST 11 to get them at a "young age", then 12 and 13 for the next 2, which means his immune system has always been shit because an 11 through 13 year olds immune system should handle those vaccines like a champ.
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>>698386736
They do all things in moderation. Eat shit. Do meth smoke crack shoot dope fuck animals. And when they eat someone with a disease they dont get the disease. Funny when shit eating monkey fuckers are healthier than you.
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>>698388138
PROTIP: He is his own grandpa
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