>Got an engineering degree from top school
>Looking for jobs
>No jobs
>What do?
You need to start a business. Doesn't have to be necessarily related to your degree, just something to get can flowing
>>698164310
If you're that much of a retard you can't get through an interview you deserve to starve.
>>698164310
Sell drugs or beg
>>698164602
Sure cause someone who can't turn an engineering degree into employment would certainly be able to run a business.
>>698164310
Have you tried sucking dick?
>>698164310
Look for a drug dealer. Someone that sells crack or anything illegal. In the middle of the night ask black people if they sell drugs and that I wanna work in a drug business. Jobs don't hire hobos crime does.
There's really only two options for millennials in today's society
A: make your own company
B: Get some shit job for shit pay and make <$50000 for the rest of your life
>>698165118
Keep telling yourself that loser
>>698164602
I've been considering it.
>>698164641
I'm an excellent interviewer.
>>698165118
This.
>>698164641
>>698164641
And and excellent interviewee
>>698165625
>>698165725
If you were an excellent interviewee you'd have a job. You're just a pathetic loser.
>>698165940
This. The world owes you nothing get over yourself. It's your ego that's keeping you from getting a job.
>>698164310
Go to africa or dubai, tons of job opportunities in terms of engineering the later having no job tax because its "haram".
>>698164310
>lots of college 20something shitheads with degrees
>no positions for them to fill
Surely the solution is to raise taxes to pay for more schooling. #imwithher
>>698166569
oh nd if you think "who would hire me in africa" my nigga anyone with a proper degree is welcome especially
if the owner of said business isnt from africa himself
>>698166992
You picked the wrong degree
NO PUSSY
>>698164310
nigga there are engineering jobs all over LA
move your ass if need be, stop being a pussy
>>698164310
>move to Japan
>create more sexbots
>profit
>>698164310
Did you get do an internship or Co-op while you were in school? If not, I'm not surprised you are still looking.
>tfw can't even get an interview
>>698167454
pay is terrible in japan
it's hell and expensive
you're obviously a loser hoping
>>698164310
and you're just realizing this? the only way for more jobs to open up for the younger generation is to somehow force all these useless old fuckers to retire, or quit. (baby boomers?) a good portion of the people i work with are at least over 50 with still no ambition to stop working. im sick of working with old people, they are stupid and stuck in another time, and also they expect us young people to do all the work because "they put their time in"...fuck off and quit already useless old fucks
>>698167454
Japan doesn't pay engineers shit. They have a surplus of smart people who are competing for the same jobs. Not to mention 80 hour work weeks.
>>698164310
I got an Engineering degree from a decent school
>looking for jobs
>no jobs
You're not alone man, The "STEM shortage" is a fucking meme.
You're not going to get any help here though, Just faggots who never tried telling you to kill yourself.
Isn't an engineering degree one of the best you can get when it comes to starting a career after college?
>>698168724
not even close
mba is best all around
>>698169282
>mba
kek
>>698168724
Yes. OP is that retarded and can't find a job with one. I've held an engineering internship for 2.5 years now with full time employment waiting when I finish. It's not that hard to get a position somewhere with an engineering degree
>>698169480
making 400K easy
so i guess it panned out
>>698169282
You're joking right? An MBA can help upward mobility once you are already in the job slugging your way up the ladder but getting that job? No, I'm afraid not.
>>698164310
>no engineering jobs
You're just retarded.
>>698169282
Lol no. Business degrees are a joke and have no real way of innovating or furthering science and technology. They literally suck companies dry and at best are used for bullshitting on resumes.
>>698164310
What is this "top school?"
>>698167454
>Go to japan for job
>Go to interview dressed like pic
>Get murdered by yakuza for looking like a retarded weeaboo
>>698169802
>>698169965
obviously that's the path i took
making money is easier than the tech sector
stem nerds deserve to be broke
so smart yet can't make money
you cannot neglect your financial life
no matter how ideological or full of ego you are
be better in every aspect
plus money buys hos and coke
>>698169276
This sounds like an excuse a loser uses to try to convince people she's not a loser. Problem is that everyone sees through it and knows the loser is a loser.
>>698168724
OP is probably a retard, even my 2.1 GPA engineering major classmates found $60k jobs after college. Jealous af
I'm in SoCal
>>698164310
What field?
>>698170859
yea socal has jobs
Ask Obama and/or the Democrats. They claim every thing is better.
>>698170713
>NEET calling people losers on the internet
kek
>>698170859
60k in SoCal is like minimum wage in the rest of the country
>>698171049
Not even British.
Man you guys are all jews I swear
>>698170976
LA has been adding tons of job since 2010........, Most of the people I went to school with go jobs within a six month period after graduation....
>>698168105
Agreed
>>698170678
You write like a highschool dropout. I doubt you even have a job.
>>698171179
I know, but it's entry level, probably comparative to other areas
>>698166270
How can you say that ? I'm not OP but I believe you're the same type of jerk that mocks people when they work at McDonald or something. There is nothing egotistic in not finding a job which suits our expectations in money, pleasure, ...
You've been probably taught wrong by muh capitalism because you get a well paying job which suits you, some people can't and it's not their fault, there is not enough suitable jobs for everyone, not everyone can be (even relatively) rich.
>no jobs
there are always jobs. if you're unemployed for more than 6 months, just kill yourself because you're obviously useless.
>>698171445
Many bosses write like that when they don't have to write so much in their every day work. Don't believe bosses are the top notch employee of the company, they're often the stupidest.
>>698164310
look at jobs in other cities.
if you cant find a job in your field in the US then you aren't trying hard enough
>>698168436
>You're not going to get any help here though, Just faggots who never tried telling you to kill yourself.
>>698171819
>just kill yourself because you're obviously useless.
told you.
>>698164310
LA, loads of aerospace companies. Yeah LA is not for everyone, but valencia theres a boatload of big machine shops dieing for degreed engineers. Me and a friend started out as cnc operators they found out he was going to De Vry and they were so starved for "engineering" they let him go to his "college" on work time.
Plus theres Lockheed and Northrop out here
>>698172001
>if you cant find a job in your field in the US then you aren't trying hard enough
lazy fucking millenials, amiright?
>>698164310
Don't worry man. I was in the same boat. Took 6 months to find a temp position doing drafting work. But after that I had enough experience to get a salary job. Just keep looking.
I also spent some money on Monster . com to have them send my resume to recruiters all over the country. That worked for me. It might work for you too. Good luck
>>698164310
find a company in your field where you can be an intern and work your way into the company when a position opens up... if you gotta pay the bills just find anything to get by on while you intern
>>698164310
jesus my pharmaceutical alone just hired 5 new grads this year who don't know shit and don't know how to behave in a fortune 500. you must suck at getting hired.
>>698172054
>no
>jobs
There are jobs, you just aren't being hired for them. here's one for you too: kill yourself.
>>698172410
>I also spent some money on Monster . com to have them send my resume to recruiters all over the country. That worked for me. It might work for you too. Good luck
not OP, but thanks for the tip
>>698168032
>>698168156
begers can't be choosers you homeless fuck
at least give something back to society
>>698172398
the official line is right where it was from '95 to '08
>>698172448
Why so hostile? Hard night working the drive through?
>>698168105
I'm so sick of old people holding on to jobs because they have no other meaning in life. Fucking quit ruining the world and let us take over. They're a bunch of dusty dried up cunts
>>698164310
Also try usajobs.gov they have a boatload of QA specialist type jobs many at entry level. If nothing else, take one of these jobs until you get another. It always looks good to have Gov't on the resume
>>698172417
>if you gotta pay the bills just find anything to get by on while you intern
OPs a STEM grad, 100% guaranteed hes prick
>>698164310
State of Oklahoma is hiring engineers.
Just google "Oklahoma state job listings"
The website has jobaps in the url
>>698172770
old people are whats wrong with this country
just fucking die already. your time is over.
>>698172680
because the official stats are totally counted the same way as they were in 95' and the government doesn't change thier methods to make things look better than they are.
The shadowstats line uses the same method for all years (the method used in the mid-80s if i recall correctly.)
>>698171179
Doesnt matter, even if you break even, then keep putting in for other jobs
>>698164310
Either you're lying about your school or you're one of those lazy engineers with a bad GPA + no experience.
I attend a top 10 engineering school and we have multiple job fairs a year, primarily focusing on engineering students. Just about everyone is offered a job upon graduation, though it may not be very enticing if you aren't competitive. I know plenty of individuals that have gotten an internship after their first year (myself included).
Top engineering schools also have very strong alumni networks and agreements with companies to hire solely from there, which is why I'm doubtful your school is a top one.
>>698172770
They lost their retirement in the 2008 crash and now they cant afford to retire. I can't really blame them, I sure they would have liked to retire, but it's really fucking over people my age who are trying to start families.
Lets vote in Hillary so the bankers can do it all again in a few years.
>>698172944
Hahaha
Faggot not smart enough for a STEM degree detected
>>698172733
I'm a traction power engineer. Fast food was good on the way home from work, though.
>>698172432
i work for a big pharma manufacturing/r&d company too.
>>698164310
we had an engineer get fired last week. he went off his aspergers meds and went full autismo. he quit doing his work and just started wondering around the the office areas of the plant and harassed some female employees. then he just started dialing the emergency phone over and over again.
EHS/Security escorted him off the campus
he comes back the next day and starts demanding to see a girl that works in quality control.
pretty much anyone that gets fired then tries to come back in gets the cops called on them. they came and took him away while security kept him cornered in the lobby. he hasnt been back yet.
i can't tell you where i work OP, but there is an engineering job open in the US
>>698164310
>Bury yourself in debt to get a degree, all because chaim teacherberg told you you'd be working at McDonalds your whole life if you didn't spend money you don't have to buy a degree at an incredibly inflated price
>can't get a job in your field, because college graduates are a dime a dozen
>refuse to get one of the many jobs that don't require a degree, because your college degree you overpaid for puts you above manual labor
Such is life, for collegecucks.
>>698173265
Depends on your results, your lack of privilege, or the fact that the top school is from another country. You might not find a job.
>>698164310
>>No jobs
>>What do?
buy an ounce of coke for $1000
turn into 30 grams of crack
sell for $10 per 1/10th gram and now you have $3000
>>698173559
Yeah but we got the knowledge while you are laughing at collegecucks.
>>698172770
Wah, someday you will be that "old" guy, so don't blame the old workers for your misfortune. Young workers have trouble coming to work ontime, complain about overtime and can't last one minute without checking their "email or text"
>>698173527
Good job and still feel the need to come and shit all over new grads trying to catch a break?
You must be a swell person with lots of friends.
>>698173456
I worked at a bank for a while and saw all of their accounts. They aren't broke and they all get SS and other gov bullshit and they're just double dipping by working. They had great markets their whole life until 2008 so the money is there. They are just too egotistical to retire. They think the world will stop spinning if they aren't there to fuck it up
>>698173610
Are we not talking about U.S. institutions in this thread?
Lack of privilege? What the hell are you talking about? Getting a job out of college comes down to hard work, not privilege. You bust your ass in school to be competitive in the work force. If an individual is too lazy to compete academically or socially, then there is nothing to be done.
>>698173265
Really depends on alot of factors, just cause some autist from an ivy league school got an engineering degree doesn't mean hell get a job
>>698173559
>I'm superior because I didn't even try
>>698173559
tell me a good paying job I can get without a college degree and i'll apply for one first thing in the morning. I'm dead ass serious
>>698173697
>Knowledge
HAHAHAHAHA!!! What fucking knowledge? Leftist indoctrination is knowledge now? All that fucking knowledge and yet you can't figure out where you went wrong borrowing tens of thousands of dollars that you can't pay back.
>>698173997
Oh don't worry, nobody talks about it but if you're a muhammed or some indian name with a degree, you're not going to get hired that easily. Don't believe everything is all idealistic and shit, discrimination is still on.
check u privlig white boi
>>698174114
Just get a CDL or a series 7.
>>698174114
Trade school makes excellent money considering the fact that it's paid for.
>Is it glamorous?
No.
>Will you feed yourself and your children?
Yes.
>>698174212
We're talking about people who got Engineering degrees.
take your alt-right cancer back to >>>/pol/
>>698173456
>They lost their retirement in the 2008 crash
no one just "lost" their retirement fund... you pay into social security when you have a job and you are saying that in 2008 everyone's social security just disappeared? i dont think so
>>698174114
you can be an operator at any chemical/pharmaceutical plant. 60k starting.
>>698174092
>I jumped off a bridge because my kike teachers told me to
>This makes me superior to my peers that saw past the shilling and didn't jump
>>698174114
Truck driving and welding come to mind. Though both do involve some type of schooling prior to being hired.
>>698173460
Not interested in it. But yeah, those subjects aren't my forte, either.
Social work yayyyy... Said no one ever.
>>698174114
The UA pipefitters in burbank is hiring apprentices start at 19 per hour
>>698174425
Again, i ask, what fucking knowledge?
>alt-right cancer
There's that famous college knowledge, anyone who triggers me is a neo-nazi.
>>698174316
>discrimination is still on.
>check u privlig white boi
If you're a woman, or some sort of minority it's 10 times easier to find a job because the majority of Engineering grads are white men, and companies are falling all over themselves to increase their "diversity."
>>698174114
Not that guy but can it be manual labor? I know some unionized manual labor jobs that pay & only have to work 20 years to get pension
>>698164310
Get out ur country
>>698173833
I have none of those problems. I just can't stand working in a system where everybody has their head so far up their ass.
They left us with 20 trillion dollars in debt and no jobs. How stupid can they possibly be and why do we let them run things.
I can't wait to start my own business. Any nigger can even start their own business now and be profitable. There is so much overhead on everything it is a joke
>>698174316
I highly doubt a company would purposely ignore qualified candidates. I understand that discrimination can and does happen, but I honestly doubt it happens on a scale large enough for it to be complained about - especially when STEM fields (maybes it's just places like Google + Apple?) supposedly target talent over diversity quotas.
>>698174212
> /pol/ culture appears out of nowhere
> Trying to teach me something totally unrelated to the subject we were talking about
Well, sucks to have the same score as a poor underrepresented minority while being a privileged white boy, amirite :') :') :')
>>698174503
Social Security isn't much of a retirement plan.
>>698174710
This, and the 5 other responses. It's pretty funny really, everyone drank the kool-aid and ran head first into college, so now even ditch digging will make you above minimum wage.
>>698174687
Math and Science you fucking pleb
>>698173265
This.
>>698173841
you just shit all over people working in the food industry.
>catch a break
I'd rather you interview like a normal person and attain a job like everyone else before you. don't be such a whiny, entitled little faggot and maybe you can utilize your degree, too.
>>698174819
Google is literally hiring blacks & women after it became "news" that their workforce was mostly white men & Asian men(I guess they aren't minorities anymore)
We need to quit letting people who will be dead in ten years run things. They just pass on all of the debt and problems.
We're near a point where we should just repudiate the debt
>>698173530
"you" ing myself
My role in the whole incident was filming everything security did since I work in EHS. I sent a copy to my manager, but I still have the autistic meltdown on my phone. Would posting this on youtube be a bad career move?
>>698174781
You think I did alright getting a business management degree?
>>698174114
not him, but look into crime scene clean up
it pays an average of 70,000 a year, and only requires highschool/GED
its on call, but hey thats alot of money to just clean, and seeing as you come here you might be able to stomach it easily
ive been heavily considering it while i go back to school online or at an accelerated program, just gotta get my drinking under control
>>698174659
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/trd/5717918712.html
>>698175051
>If it isn't spoon-fed by a college professor with a leftist agenda, it isn't real knowledge.
Libraries are everywhere and cheap as can be to access. And almost everyone has internet access.
The only pleb here is you, if you think it still costs 40 thousand dollars to learn math and science.
>>698175063
Well knowledge, stuff that make you wonder about life, university is the layer between speculating all your life about stuff you don't understand and being a literate piece of shit who can use archives, research on subjects, have a proper knowledge on sciences depending on your degree, etc.
I don't feel superior to anyone without a degree, but go ahead and study physics or psychology in your free time without college, nigga, you'll see how hard it might be.
>>698174361
>>698174380
>>698174506
>>698174569
>>698174659
>>698174710
Well damn, I didn't expect that. Makes me wonder why I even applied for college in the first place. I like the sound of that chemical/pharmaceutical plant operator that >>698174506 said. I'll start searching and applying
>>698174904
how much money do you really need to live on your remaining 10 years of life after retirement?
>>698175085
You never answered, why so hostile? Telling people to kill themselves because they're having a hard time getting a job in their field? What's wrong with you?
>>698175489
Healthcare is extremely necessary and costly as you get older
>>698173530
haha nothing dramatic here except a couple of years back one contractor decides to take a nap in an AHU and died. noone found him for a good month. then 2 week shutdown for a full clean. love getting paid to do nothing
>>698175389
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Have a nice night.
you need to kill yourself, you autistic nigger
>>698175489
Well it depends greatly on how you aged. Some are essentially bedridden and need constant attention to survive. Others need hardly anything and can still jog regularly. In either case, mounting medical expenses and rising inflation makes each year more difficult than the last.
>>698175288
Yes. I didn't really have a choice to go to college or not because they paid for everything.
Got out with 3 majors in Econ Poli sci and entrepreneurship. I work in brokerage and banking but now I'm trying to make the jump to IT where everything isn't a scam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4PTf7LgsIE
>>698164310
Get a look at this guy, he thinks that having a degree from a top school is good enough to get an entry level job.
Why don't you go get 10 years of experience first then you might be offered an internship.
Fucking kids these days.
>>698175389
> hurr durr who needs college you can learn by yourself
I WILL HIGHLY RESPECT YOU
If you can get half the knowledge of what a college student have by being an autodidacte.
But we both know it won't ever happen m8
>>698175629
>>698175652
and why cant you just have the hospital bill you and never plan on paying it back? i mean you are going to die soon anyway who cares about your credit
>>698171819
>kill yourself because you're obviously useless
>checkem.jpg
>Shittier singles
kill yourself faggot
>>698175398
>university is the layer between speculating all your life about stuff you don't understand and being a literate piece of shit who can use archives, research on subjects, have a proper knowledge on sciences
>>698175389
>but go ahead and study physics or psychology in your free time without college, nigga, you'll see how hard it might be.
>Going 40k into debt is easier than sitting down and studying in your free time
OOOOK then.
>>698175719
We need to let our old people die. We can't afford to let them live and they don't want to anyway.
>>698175630
jesus, what kinda access control does your plant have to where he was able to get trapped in there?
shutdowns are the opposite for me, it's when i actually have to work since that's when all the alarm systems get checked and things SOMETIMES get fixed instead of duct taped.
>>698175652
>get proven wrong
>well you're wrong because i say so
College education at work here ladies and gents.
>>698171603
is this bait?
There's no way people actually think like this.
move
>>698176087
Just remember that they are responsible for everything you have and everything you learned.
The elderly are an incredible fountain of knowledge and history - they are a valuable resources that deserves respect.
Thoughts like that will get you abandoned down the road too.
>>698175525
this is /b/, I don't care and I have nothing to do.
>>698176196
I bet you 'win' all your arguments.
>>698175878
What is it, exactly, that the colleges have that i don't? What secret information do they hold that i can't access with a library card, and amazon account, and internet access?
>>698164860
Stranger things have happened, /b/ro.
>>698176156
yeah guys in ehs/security always complain about the contractors taking badges home. so they just deactivate them without double checking. im in qa. so shutdown=no doc review. amazing.
>>698176196
People without real college degrees annoy me. It's not about the knowledge. It's a stamp that says for your first 20 years in life you worked harder than your peers. Then every dipshit with out one acts like they're smart because they do bullshit work for shit wages ruining the labor force. Fake college degrees and old people who have no idea what universities are like today are fucking our country
>>698176526
You still haven't addressed:
>>698175389
>Libraries are everywhere and cheap as can be to access. And almost everyone has internet access.
>The only pleb here is you, if you think it still costs 40 thousand dollars to learn math and science.
Try and answer the argument before talking shit,
>>698176473
>I have nothing to do.
You could always kill yourself
>>698176563
Moving into management positions is far more difficult without a bachelor's, though you can get a well-paying middle-management job without a degree if you start from the bottom.
I am not the guy you addressed earlier.
>>698176771
I could, but Clorox would not be the way to go. Plus I need to go to work Monday.
>Monday is usually the start of the work week for people that have jobs
>>698176741
You already 'won'.
You're obviously too smart for me.
>>698176584
i know we don't work at the same plant because we didn't have a guy die in an AHU recently lol but goddamn it's like we work at the same place. same SOPs, same acronyms, same assholes stealing badges
>>698176456
What do I have? Some fucked up planet and country they expect me to fix? Over the last 20 years this world has devolved and it's pretty obvious who is to blame.
I know they didn't start the fire but this is probably the first time in modern history that we have actually gone backwards over the span of 2 decades. And to make matters worse we cover it up with drawn up statistics and government controlled media
>>698164310
go out and network more friend.
seriously something like 80% of jobs taken up don't even make it to being advertised.
For instance, i'm about to graduate from ANU with a double in science and engineering. i got this from meeting someone from accenture 3 months ago at a networking event at a separate uni.
I have already got a job lined up after completion with accenture.
>>698176932
Make sure and work extra hard for me. I need those NEETbux.
>>698164310
Move to a metro area you pussy cuck
Most jobs today are just stealing money from an unsuspecting joes pocket. The world has gone to shit
>>698176563
Sure. You are just as intelligent as someone else, but college is here to teach you something, the teacher are people who worked hard for their rank, there are also some archives and books you might only read in college, add a little bit of pedagogy and discipline which I'm not that fond but anyway.
You don't have all that, don't go around the question and say that you can provide yourself books from amazon to do what people do in 3-5-7-9 years depending on the courses you take. You're just talking here, you couldn't even make up for one year in med school with your amazon books, your dick and your ego.
And you'd still need some college fuck to tell you which book to get.
But anyway you don't seem ready to accept another answer that yours. You ARE SO RIGHT, you could never be proven wrong.
>>698175652
This pic said it way before you went on about the fact that you could go even with a college degree.
>>698177359
Where rent is 1500 a month.
I know let's subsidize it and then just pray they make it cheaper
>>698177132
haha proof positive is only if you heard about the sabotage that happened? methylene blue in bulk?
Who else in this fag world is a fucking iron worker ?
>>698177209
I'll probably just work from home via remote desktop and smoke a bowl for you.
>super extra hard
>>698176643
>It's a stamp that says for your first 20 years in life you worked harder than your peers.
That's fucking rich m8. Everyone who hauls rocks out in the sun, those fags don't know what hard work is. It's enlightened college minds like yours that know what true hard work is.
>acts like they're smart because they do bullshit work
Bullshit work that didn't cost them 50k to be qualified for.
>for shit wages
Ohohohoho. And you say others don't know how the world works. You can be a brain dead retarded highschool dropout and still make 15 an hour doing basic manual labor.
>ruining the labor force
Nigga what?
>>698176954
Why even reply? You're whole argument is that you are smarter than me, yet you have to sperg out whenever challenged on your bullshit?
i love how everyone here is just severely depressed about their life choices
>>698176833
That wasn't the point though, they were talking about knowledge.
>>698176643
Dude, you are a real douchebag. What the hell, do you know all the snot nose punks coming out of major colleges, but have no practical skills? Quit blaming your faggoty ass problems on others its not the old workers ITS YOUR ATTITUDE.
I'll bet you are an autist.
>>698178064
nah dude big pharma is the place to be. free cafeteria, dry cleaning, company bar, park, parties. and since its a huge company: no work. just bullshit.
>>698177985
I'm letting you win, just take the free win.
>>698178236
oh and you don't need a college degree for those fags who don't have one. apply to be a operator.
>>698177728
1) I have had manual labor jobs
2) I went to school on scholarship so eat dick
3) 15 bucks an hour is dog shit money you will never be happy on
4) workers have no pride anymore. People will rob cripple people for minimum wage if their boss tells them to do it.
College is necessary, real colleges.
Fake schools need to go away.
Idiots who never went to get a degree but still believe they are smart need to be deported.
>>698178259
>I'm letting you win,
>5 guys corners be in a bar and broke both my legs.
>what? no, i didn't get beat up, i just let them win is all.
>>698178064
4chan in a nutshell
>>698178236
then why are you here?
>>698175389
Yeah, libraries are everywhere and cheap. But if you don't have somebody to guide you, there is the possibility of deriving false conclusions. There are MILLIONS of people that do what you suggest, and they actually become even stupider.
Only 20% of the people that go to college are actually capable of learning. Trust me, I tutor them. They're a bunch of incapable morons.
>>698178509
Yes. Another internet argument won. Well done my friend.
>>698178528
you dont need a college degree to work here. and we're hiring guys/gals (mostly gals) in engineering. i think they got 2 more positions to fill.
>>698178376
operator at a pharmacy?
>>698178708
>hiring guys/gals (mostly gals)
I fucking hate affirmative action
>>698178163
I have no real problems in my life. That's because I'm smart. Now everybody else's problems are my problem because I have the capacity to fix them. It's fucking annoying and it's dusty old men who are making things worse. They can't even run the baseball HOF, yet alone a country
>>698178883
jesus christ no wonder you guys dont have a degree. no plant operator. push buttons. product gets transferred from one tank to the other. follow the recipe in the batch record. make sure you stir for 5 minutes after adding ingredient. make sure you press this after doing that. make sure samples for qc are taken.
no college degree needed. associates preferred.
We need to shoot our government like a horse and start over
>>698177577
Get a small apartment or a big one with roomies....
>>698178930
yup. but out of the 5 they hired only 1 was a chick. no other females applied. theyre holding out for more tho.
>>698177474
Maybe you require things to be spelled out to you, but for me, i pick up some books on stalindgrad, i read these books, and i understand stalingrad as far as these books allow me to. No teacher spelling shit out required.
This country is going to the dogs.
>No jobs meme
There's jobs fucking everywhere they just aren't what you want to do and they pay garbage. Welcome to the real world fucker
>>698179113
I'm confused. So the job is at a plant, not a pharmacy?
>>698170179
>Business degrees are a joke
Pretty high on the list broner. Finance and Accounnting ahead of engineering. thats interesting
http://www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2014/11/12/top-degrees-for-getting-hired-in-2015/#61f450fc6118
>>698178655
>there is the possibility of deriving false conclusions
I would argue this is even more so with college. Your professors are human, they have their biases, if not agendas as well.
>>698179535
If they're not what I want to do, why would I do them without payment that properly compensates me for my time?
>>698164310
Move. Seriously.
>>698179535
You're the problem. You brain washed piece of shit. I hope you die. I hope your own mother smothers you in your sleep. You work for evil corporations and eat all of their shit because you are functionally retarded. Eat a bag of dicks. Eat a big giant bags of golden dicks. Get used to being treated like a bitch because that is your ceiling.
you need experience before job
how to get experience for job without job?
you work for free and bring pride to famiry
>>698164310
You're probably just not 'good at it.' As an aerospace engineering student I've had a job since the first semester of my junior year and been a paid research assistant to the department's top professor. But then again I bust ass, have always had a high GPA, do actual engineering outside of class (some collaborations with NASA), and teach myself things outside of class (various programming languages, advanced physics, abstract mathematics). You have to try hard to get what you want in life OP.
>>698178484
>2) I went to school on scholarship so eat dick
We're almost having to different arguments then. If that degree doesn't pay off, that's 2 years wasted. If your the average fag, that's 2 years wasted and 50k down the drain.
>3) 15 bucks an hour is dog shit money you will never be happy on
15 an hour is good for me. Then again, i seem to be the minority in not daydreaming about having a McMansion and a sports car i can barely afford. Not to mention, 15 an hour isn't even the top, get a good trade, and you're looking at 20 an hour at the very least, most likely much more.
>4) workers have no pride anymore. People will rob cripple people for minimum wage if their boss tells them to do it.
Where is the pride and honesty in standing on the side of a road with a sign demanding the government force other people to pay off their degrees they couldn't afford?
>>698179576
>Marketing
>Anywhere near a list of most demanded degrees
>>698167953
This
>>698179837
So what are you going to do, starve to death on principal?
>>698180107
I don't mean any disrespect if this is true, but I often see shit like this on 4chan and wonder why the fuck a person with this lifestyle would waste any amount of time on here.
>>698179478
Pick up a book on numerical methods and just learn numerical methods smart guy.
>>698179478
wow you're picking topics which are pretty much common knowledge. the goal is to sound smart about one topic in school.
for example did you know that native american indians owned slaves? that most ended up in tulsa, ok then were slaughtered in the 1920s?
To OP, if he's even still here, I would recommend looking for trash ass engineering internships. They typically will pay you just enough to eat, and even if the job is complete hell (which it 9/10 will be), you'll be getting the experience you need to actually apply to an entry level position and take a step toward what you want. That's one thing nobody ever tells you; you have to wade through a river of shit for years before you can do what you want to do. The real world isn't peaches and cream, but persevere, and you'll eventually get your chance.
>>698178163
Have you been to a college where kids pop adderall and speed to stay awake 20 hours a day? Only to lose to the international students who are fucking programmed robots to study 24/7? I'll tell you what it's absurd. I doubt this op went to a top uni but honestly it's like professional sports now, you can't do it without PEDs. And what do these old bags think a Harvard MBA is worth? Jack dick that's what.
>>698180246
>Where is the pride and honesty in standing on the side of a road with a sign demanding the government force other people to pay off their degrees they couldn't afford?
Correction: Where is the honesty in advertising for degrees on the basis of jobs and careers that don't truly exist?
Schools should drop their tuition to a reasonable amount and student loans should be renegotiated.
>>698167425
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full employment for tech in sf bay area silicon valley, they are hiring wogs chinks and gooks who cant even speak engrish to babysit machines and peck out buggy code
>>698164310
How can you not find a job as an engineer graduate...
>>698180374
Well let's see it's 1:30 am, I'm about to go to sleep and I only get on for half an hour to an hour, oh yeah it's summer, and this shit isn't hard for me.
But yeah I've been getting pretty sick of /b/ lately
>>698180350
Nah, I get by just fine doing what I want to do. But if I didn't, I'd probably OD on heroin or some shit.
>>698180694
Are you an Engineer who graduated in the past 5 years? It's fucking brutal out there.
>>698168105
im an oldfag training young farts like you son. if society made it easy to retire at 50, we would. i think its a great idea. that was part of the new deal solution to the great depression unemployment, but in the 2008 crash they forgot about that and just made everyone work harder, people in charge are dumb fucks
>>698179609
Did you not read the other part of my comment? Besides, college is where you have an open forum for discussion. Only shit professors try to push an agenda. They're payed to be unbiased. Every teacher that tried to push one I called out, and it was only the shit tier 100 level classes. Once you get farther in college, your professors become more knowledgeable and less biased in their teaching.
>>698164310
most of the engineering firms in area are already chuck full of useless dumb fuckers.
but good luck on the job search
nigger
>>698180436
The topic was simply an example, I wasn't even suggesting i've actually read into stalingrad.
>common knowledge.
Except it isn't. If we're talking about actually knowing about the battle of stalingrad, "natzis and commies fought over a city for a year or 2", isn't an understanding of it.
Here's an alternative for you, OP. Forget about getting a job right now, and just head to graduate school. Not sure what field of engineering you were in, but if you're THAT fucked, just go for a higher degree. Most good universities will actually pay you to study with them, although it will be a SHIIIIT stipend (usually around 30-35k). But, who knows, maybe that advanced degree will get you a better job prospect. Or, if you happen to just stay with the academic life, you could end up as a professor at a good school and make upwards of 100k a year doing research that actually interests you. Worth a thought.
>>698169965
agreed, only get an MBA if you are already hired and the company pays for it and it will lead to promotion assuming you want to stay there as a career and want promotion
>>698165118
Incorrect? Most of my friends got decent jobs out of school. State school, average gpas, nothing special other than having csci/engineering degrees.
>>698180246
Let me guess.
You are single with no responsibilities.
You have been mislead that your 20's and 30's aren't actually your best and most important earning years.
You don't own a home. And if you do it's a 30 year mortgage.
It's not your fault what you are mad at are kids throwing 50k at bullshit majors or some shitty state school. That's obviously a problem. But the real problem will be paying back 20 trillion dollars in debt on 15/hr jobs. Cause that math will never add up.
>>698181101
>My only example was a fabrication.
You don't know shit about fuck. Go back to >>>/pol/
>>698170987
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haha both things are true, and yes we are at full employment
>>698179113
Sounds like a good job for an autist. Try this OP
>>6981728
>OPs a STEM grad, 100% guaranteed hes prick
Liberal Arts detected
>>698180614
>Where is the honesty in advertising for degrees on the basis of jobs and careers that don't truly exist?
I offer to teach you origami for 50$, and tell you it is a valuable life skill. You accept. My dishonesty is vastly overshadowed by the fact that you were dumb enough to throw down the money without doing the research.
>Schools should drop their tuition to a reasonable amount
Why should they? Any dumb motherfucker can borrow as much money as they want to go and get this tuition. Blame the idiots who borrowed tens of thousands of dollars they didn't have.
>student loans should be renegotiated.
You borrow money, you pay it off.
>>698172340
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jeebus, why would anyone go to DeVry? for profit schools are the last resort. community college tech schools much cheaper
Part of the problem is HR don't know their ass from their balls. They're really slow and dumb. You'll get your break
>>698181101
in college it's about developing depth. especially in the sciences where you can literally pull out all fuckery that noone understands.
Patient presents with history of experiencing Sphenopalatine ganglioneuralgia with recurring fasciculation of the triceps.
but if you believe they are "smarter" or "better" that's not true. It's just they know the terminology.
>>698181237
This is assuming OP wasn't a shit student, which he probably was since he can't find a job
>>698181438
>My only example
Yes, my EXAMPLE.
>was a fabrication.
No, it was an example.
>>698181905
Businesses don't care to check if you were a good student.
I was a terrible one and they never seem to find out.
>>698181905
True.
>>698181664
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haha read about all the poor sucker law school grads suing their schools for false advertising, graduating with no jobs and 200k in debt they can never ever pay off and cant even declare bankruptcy, what a fucking country
>>698181905
>>698182075
businesses don't give a shit about grades. if you look the part, and can hold a conversation, you're hired.
>>698182191
bullshit. what business are you referring to? we care a lot about which school and what GPA and what major and what extracurricular and internships
>>698182156
Watch all these old bastards piss and moan when their housing value tanks again because they didn't pay us enough to afford them.
>>698182365
Yeah right every company asks you to explain your top 2 things on your resume and then goes in to talking about the position
>>698182191
Yeah sure bro. Beause Engineers don't have to problem solve during interviews.
You must have good grades as a minimum, and maybe some projects under your belt. Its good to have an internship also.
Interviews aren't what you see in movies. Especially for STEM majors, you usually have to pass problem solving tests on a white board.
>>698182365
i work in big pharma. gpa is only a filter for hr. if you have a 3.0 or above, you pass but there is no looking at transcripts so you could technically get away with saying whatever. behavioral based interview questions. no technical. so yeah. goodluck.
>>698181430
>You have been mislead that your 20's and 30's aren't actually your best and most important earning years.
That's the thing though. Everyone is running out to spend money they don't have on degrees they don't need because all that they have to get a degree. It is true that i am quite young, and was in high school only a few years ago. That's how i know this. All i remember about high school was the insane amount of fear-mongering they had going on. From day 1 it was "you have 3 choices, get a degree (they never mentioned how you were suppose to pay for it of course), get a career helping fight uncle sam's oil wars, or work at mcdonalds your whole life.
>But the real problem will be paying back 20 trillion dollars in debt on 15/hr jobs
I don't even bother worrying about the debt anymore. We are fucked. Done. The only way that debt is going away is if we get rid of the social programs that make up 75% of federal spending. But that's not gonna happen until it's to late.
>>698182685
No company ask for a gpa once you are one year out of school anyway.
>>698179535
yeah everyone wants to be an artist musician or writer and have someone else clean their toilets make their food and fix their cars while they work on their mural painting at 50$/hr
>>698182684
>>698182555
i'm sure engineers have to problem solve during interviews. but i betcha that you can bullshit past that old 50 year old manager.
buy a gun and take the ez way out
>>698182191
>>698182017
Was talking about getting paid a stipend by a university to do your master's there, autismo
>>698182685
i work in silicon valley semi corp, we have 5 rounds of technical quiz interviews with sr engrs, takes 3/4 day. we mostly hire new college grads, rarely old farts.
>>698182972
the question is can you bullshit past this guy
>>698174212
>tens of thousands of dollars
Try full ride, faggot 8^)
>>698164310
Time to join the military fag boy
>>698182882
Why then do you give a pass to the federal debt but not the student debt. Essentialy you are saying our government/people who rely on them, shouldn't have to pay back their debt.
Students however are whiney assholes so they should?
They piss around with tax, medical and mortgage debt all of the time. Every day. But fuck students they're entitled.
>>698176579
Aw I fucking love that video man
This thread can be summed up in one pic
>>698183277
i work for one of the top 10 big pharma. our interview process is a 3 hour panel of behavioral based questions. you have to answer the questions based on a 3 column response criteria. what when and resolution.
thats it.
>>698183517
>Why then do you give a pass to the federal debt
I don't give it a pass, i accept that this situation is wholly and utterly fucked to the fullest extent, and will only get worse until the whole rotten thing finally kicks the bucket.
I only voice opposition to student loan forgiveness because i know it will result in a tax raise. A tax raise that will take more of my money to slap a bandaid on a plane going down in a ball of fire.
>>698165118
i feel like this is actually pretty on the ball TBH.
>>698164310
feel for you OP. Best thing is to send your resume and follow up with a phone call. talk to managers when possible because they may be able to hire personally. Good luck in dealing with HR people. They're fucking idiots who half the time don't even know what the job is.
>>698164310
suicide.
vote for trump 2016
Op should join the navy and learn to operate power plants. Get hired after 4 years of deployment on a ship and have school loans fogiven.
>>698164310
get a loan from a bank to make a company. pay them back as soon as possible though.
>>698188216
Make a company that loans loans & loan your loan to the loaning company to unload yourself
>>698169802
Sure fam
>>698164310
> Be OP
> is a newfag faggot
> I so successful
> but I also has no success
> what do?
> I will give no information
> I expect answers
> beta af
OP you can't just say you have a engineering degree and not say what type you are... Then expect us to make a suggestion on what you should do.
Somebody call Google, ask them to transfer you to the Cuck division, more than likely moot will answer, tell him how newfags are being fags. He might come back if you ask him to stop being a faggot, and Google doesn't need him to be in charge of the Cuck Dank ass meme division.
Also this is now a Spiderman thread.
>>698179995
This, this shit is so annoying. I quit talking to my family when I was 15 and have been living on my own for years now(I'm 22) I've had so many misc jobs from sheet metal cutting/retail/security. And when I apply to jobs now it's like I never even get a call back, when I go to places they say apply on. It's annoying as shit, I haven't had a job in a year I've been selling misc things to people to make it by.
>>698164310
find democrats
the well off but not rich enough for armed gards kind
rob with gun wearing mask
yell black llives matter
??
profit
No lie here, look for a job with Tesla. Almost all their positions require engineering degrees. If not, get into public transportation engineering, trains, subways, etc. Thats definitely a growing field.