was he the best president of all time?
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was he the best president of all time?
No
>>697475986
The Monkey in Chief
>>697475986
He got the economy outve the trash so for real hardworking Americans he did a 10/10 job
this isnt pol fuck off
He wasn't the best, he wasn't the worst. Our worst president will probably be our last one.
I don't know if he is the best of all time. But he is the best that we had in a really long time.
Donald Trump
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>>697476390
>>697476465
he stopped the war in Iraq and tried to make Americans get free Healthcare. no white president ever did that
>>697475986
Heres the problem, he promised change, then could really do any. He was sandbagged and its a miracle his healthbill came through. And now that health bill fucks the middle class cause of the opposition.
Was he a bad president? No
Was he a lackluster president? Yes
Atleast he will get "first black president" next to his name
>>697475986
>was he the best president of all time?
He has been a fucking LEMON. Bush 43 1/2.
Worst president since I've been keeping track and I've kept track since Ford.
Well we haven't been nuked yet so I'd say he did a good job
>>697475986
> Implying USA ever had a good president
>>697475986
>trys to give people universal healthcare
>universal healthcare is county healthcare
>going to county medical for anything ever
I have a grand mother who is 92 years old and has said several times she would rather die than go back to the county hospital. Imagine the DMV, but with needles and more dirty.
Meanwhile, I have fucking top tier health coverage.
>>697476576
that does not definitively make him the best though.
>>697476576
Our soldiers are still all over the middle east, getting attacked, murdered. Now look at the new opposition.
>>697476465
>Our worst president will probably be our last one.
This
Obama in recent years. Bush was shit. Clinton was great. Bush sr was shit. Regan was great. Carter was decent. Hillary will be ok. Trump would be a disaster.
Dead prez
>>697476576
>he stopped the war in Iraq
when did this happen?
didn't he just send a few thousand more troops over there?
>>697476529
yeah, the best in about 8 years
>>697476384
kek
>>697476621
I still laugh with my friends to the fact that amurice has a nigger as president
The worst was washington.
>>697476576
He didn't stop shit.
If he did I wouldn't have spent 2 years in the sandbox.
Obama wasn't the worst but was far from being the best and free healthcare was a fiasco that actually made a lot of people lose their healthcare because they either couldn't afford it or it wasn't being offered in their state.
>>697476465
>>697477106
Meet your last president.
>>697477325
you were in the army? fighting in Afghanistan? you're a piece of shit. i hope all you buddies died in action.
>>697477477
I hope you dont reply to this post and your mother dies in her sleep, pinko scum
>>697477477
Marine corps.
Yes.
A good amount of them did and it keeps me up at night knowing I couldn't do anything about it.
You're more edgy than bismuth.
>>697476576
No he didn't and there's no such thing as free health care.
>>697477614
Im glad you did what you did friend. Soldiers are people first and foremost, and brave ones at that
He's mediocre at best.
His economic policies are terrible and this Healthcare nonsense has only made the issue worse.
If he would have focused on getting people back to work in his first 4 years then he could have done whatever he wanted for the next 4 with little contention. As is, he's pretty bad.
>>697477614
aren't marines like the army but for retards?
>>697477776
Thank you anon. It means a lot to me.
Not all of us are brave some of us are down right cowards but we're still people nonetheless.
We cry. We fuck. We laugh. We die.
We mostly just want someone to tell us we did our best.
>>697476893
>implying it hasn't
One man can and/or shouldn't have all the power to fix all a country's problems
>>697476576
>Swapped Iraq for Syria
>Made healthcare even more unaffordable
>Twice as many mass shootings under him as there was under Bush
>Race relations the worst they've been in at least 60 years
Yeah, he's pretty much guaranteed no other black presidents for at least 30 more years. In that respect I guess he did at least one decent thing.
>>697477945
have u ever killed anyone
>>697477908
marines are more equivalent to psychopaths, not retards.
>>697478141
same things
>>697478141
Bet you aint got the balls to say that in public, baby nuts
>>697475986
He was the Celebrity in Chief, the press' president. He Balkanized the country on an unprecedented scale. Promoted division at home while being largely responsible for fueling the rapid growth of ISIS. Poor.
>>697475986
I like his suit there.
>>697478264
lol I was defending the marines, settle down there buzzcut. I guess the marines are retards.
>>697477171
>hillary will be ok
>trump would be a disaster
>>697476576
>free healthcare
Then why do we get fined if we don't have Heath insurance?
>>697475986
>was he the best president
no, but at least we can credit him with not fucking it up since he wont be the one in office when the US falls.
secondly the US is doomed to fall in the next 4-8 years.
if hilary wins how long do you really think it will take for her to give the country to the feminists and the Muslims who will undoubtedly destroy each other.
if trump wins the US looses all credibility and is devastated as attacks come in from countries and groups that trump pissed off thinking no biggie.
or since it's trump none of his bills and shit get passed nothing happens in 4 years but since the US has no credibility anymore it opens up the door for president Kanye West in 2020
>>697476978
>Defending corporate run healthcare
Jesus, you're just lost.
>>697478475
>implying marines want to be called psychopaths
Well, im glad im the retard who speaks to people once in a while. Talk to any fucking.marine worth a good goddamn and all he wants to be known as is a good person, you fucking neckbeard
>>697478711
>president Kanye West
Horrifying
>itt rational people who see obama as all he will be, a the black president
Quatar is still a shithole. I spent 2 years there. The middle east cant be fixed. To all my fellow armed forces bros, fuck the haters. The pussies who call you out know nothing about the outside world.
>>697478908
Jesus christ you are a sensitive one aren't you. Look, all I was saying is marines are not retarded but a little bit on the crazier side. I would never seriously call a marine a psychopath to his face, my father was a marine for gods sake. settle the fuck down.
>>697478711
You doomsayers are really a trip. Do i want hillary or trump in office? Hell no. Do i think they will cause the literally destruction of the country? No. Its like the people who believe the country would fall under Obama, or under lincoln, or under old hickory.
>>697475986
Is he the best? No.
He is the most under appreciated of all time though. I think he did the best he could given the state the job was in when he took office. And I'd take a third term with him vs the two we have to choose from tbh.
>that is a slick suit though.
>>697479227
Exactly. I love how these guys speak so matter of factly. Like they have a crystal ball or something. I think the reality is that these people are just highly suggestible and like to spew they're "knowledge" anywhere they can. And if i'm wrong, it doesn't matter lol!
>>697476893
Lincoln and kennedy were good ...
>>697477325
Wasn't his fault, the Republicans fucked up everything he had envisioned. He wanted a system similar to that of Canada and is that really so wrong? Repubs fucked it up and stupid people bought the horse shit they were fed about it.
>>697475986
The recent edition of Army Times got kicked up a debate shitstorm through post. The general consensus is that we're ready for Obama to become a benevolent dictator, given our choices.
>>697475986
BOAT? Hah. He wasn't even the best since 2000
>>697476465
Wrong. Look what fuckin Lincoln did, he let the slaves out.
>>697475986
Jimmy Carter likes him. because he makes him look good. actual joke a democrat told me.
>>697479365
sure kid
Would BLM exist if he was a good black president?
I voted because I would see what would happen if we had a black prez. Just normal president stuff though
>>697478959
>Horrifying
I know but Kanye says he's willing to run and let's be honest if trump wins it's not too far a leap to West 2020
>>697479227
I'm not saying it will be instant or likely to happen in the next decade but trust me when I tell you one of those two is gonna do the thing that gets the ball rolling and then it snowballs into a series of events inevitably lead to the the year 2128 us enslaved by *insert some country here*
think long-term people.
>>697479965
Would blm exist if we never had a black president?
In all honesty he's probably the best president since JFK. Look at the shitshow Bush Jr left him with
>>697476576
>he stopped the war in Iraq
If anything, the situation in Middle-East is worse than when he took the office. Granted, that's hardly his fault, yet pulling the troops out of Iraq prematurely hardly improved things.
Best President since Kennedy. Conservatives are under no obligation to acknowledge it, history will gladly do it for them.
As far as former Presidents go, no one tops Carter.
The best president of all time will bring back Americana, they will create pride and promote peace, they will be open and honest while tough and rugged. Was Obama like this? No. Did he have potential? Hell yeah. Trump has some of this potential ass well but will also fall short. Clinton doesn't even come close and will be terrible. Ron Paul probably would have been great if people would have listened. Bernie was cool as fuck fuck but lacked the balls he needed and a few of his ideas were screwy. The point is.. Gary Johnson mother fuckers. He is better than anyone.
>>697475986
Aside from drone attacks and issuing the deportation of thousands of immigrant families before issuing the executive action then yeah I guess he was okay. Honestly not the best president of all time but not the worst, at least.
He's the okayest president.
He's done ok considering http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/nov/22/harry-reid/harry-reid-says-82-presidential-nominees-have-been/
>>697475986
He was objectively a good president. Don't know about best ever, though. That's kind if a hard award to pick anyone for, tbh. Too many presidents dealing with too many different challenges that can be hard to compare to one another. If I had to name one I'd pick FDR.
>>697478711
>>697478959
>>697480034
Guys, hang on a second.
If we have Trump and then Kanye, that's basically two celebrities rather than politicians running the country.
Suddenly "Idiocracy" doesn't seem too far-fetched lol
>>697480264
What are we, a nation of fucking ants?
>>697479965
yes because the fuckery behind blm is regans fault for not handling shit right in the 80s
Maybe we can't agree on best but Dubya was the worst. Can we all agree on that?
>>697478503
Hillary would be a puppet if Sanders were her VP. This and breaking the two party mentality is what I hope for. Jill Stein is all Bernie supporters best bet but no one ever votes for a third party.
>>697480494
How was Dubya worse than Woodrow Wilson?
>>697480415
That train wreck as the first "lady". No, Americans are not this stupid... Are you?
>>697476576
Boy you must feel pretty stupid now
>>697480434
Couldn't find the pic I was looking for. Gary's ideas are worth squinting for.
>>697479717
Give it a few terms and the slavespawn will be made the new masters.
He certainly was pretty good, and would have been far better if the majority of what he tried to do wasn't blocked by the other idiots in power.
Best American president anyone alive today was around to have voted for.
>>697480494
For sure. He made the states look like a bunch of redneck idiots and I mean this with 100%sincerity but I truly believe that he planned the September 11 attacks to ignite the Middle Eastern war for oil and to further the Rothschild family greed.
>>697480462
Quote Obama 8 years ago "change"
>>697477477
What is wrong with you man
>>697478029
>twice as many mass shootings under him as there was under Bush
Obviously Obama's fault. I mean, let's completely disregard the gun laws his administration tried to pass that got shot down (pun intended) right out of the starting gate.
>race relations the worst they've been in at least 60 years
I'm fairly certain we can put that more on your head than his, seeing as how you figure blacks should be kept out of office based on their skin color
>>697480494
Do you even understand approval ratings?
GW was the fuckin man
>>697480596
I don't know much about Woodrow other than income tax and he was an alleged kkk member. Those two things really suck and I guess the argument can be made. I'll still say Dubya just because his 2 failed wars (Afghanistan and Iraq) and the state of the country when he took office to when he left.
>>697477614
Sorry to hear it.
Don't mind the faggoty little edgelords around here, Maybe someday they will grow the fuck up.
>>697480609
Who are you even talking about?
"That train wreck"....you aren't dumb enough to think that's trump's wife are you?
>>697475986
Lincoln, FDR, Washington are often cited as great. I love Reagan - he was a leader, maybe not the best.
Nixon was highly underrated in terms of actual accomplishments.
Carter was the worst in my lifetime.
Obama is by far the worst leader. Race relations are terrible and the world has zero respect for us.
PS: Hillary is the fucking anti-christ
>>697478503
You sure contributed to the discussion, buddy
Whooee, you sure showed us
>>697480750
He's not smart enough to plan that. Did he know, of course but c'mon. Mans got an IQ of an autistic 10 year-old
>>697481436
>PS: Hillary is the fucking anti-christ
So what? Why do we need a bible thumper in office?
>>697480415
yeah because regan and sen. FredThompson were politicians from birth. oh and because were also at the point where we have bush sr. eight years later oh yeah whatever let his kid give it a shot.
oh and lets not forget mr. clinton yet less than 2 decades after "well maybe his wife should try"
so don't even try to tell me Americans aren't ridiculous enough to allow west or any douche from Hollywood give it a shot.
>>697480745
Not all of us are 22 dipshit
>>697479663
Fort Riley?
>>697481436
>and the world has zero respect for us.
Speaking as Brit, it was Dubya that destroyed the image of America. I've never seen respect for a country drop so fast.
Not saying Obama has been good in that department.
>>697481428
Kim K bud. Read what the fuck that anon wrote, talkin about Kanye becoming president.
>>697481722
And it's a damn shame. You guys voted in Bush and Clinton the first.
>>697479555
Kennedy sucked ass. People only love him because he had his head blown off.
>>697476576
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FREE
When will you fucking idiot Liberals get this through your dense heads? You claim to be so smart and educated but you don't understand basic fucking economics
>>697478029
If that's the case then
>Clinton sparked school shootings because Columbine massacre happened during his presidency.
>Bush is responsible for VTECH
the fact that people are violent has little to nothing to do with Obama. In fact around where I am all bomb threats are from rednecks threatening to blow up a Wal-Mart because they're pissed. Humans are intrinsically violent no matter the circumstance.
>>697478141
I had a friend who was in the airforce. When he was in Florida their was a Marine base right next to the airforce base. And the Marines would be out in the sticks for 2 weeks at a time so when they got back they all went to the bars.He told me that everyone in the airforce knew to stay at the barracks when they were in town because those crazy fuckers would start fights even 1 marine vrs 5 airforce.
>>697475986
kek what
> do nothing
> kill people
> get praised
>>697481811
Joke, bro. Kanye would have zero chance.
>>697481858
I think Kennedy was one of the best but often wonder if it was because he wasn't in office long enough to fuck up
>>697481902
Yo I own a Honda and bush had nothin to do with VTEC yo
>>697481595
Unless that's what he wanted us to think. He played the oaf to avert our suspicions. Even if he is the grandest of all autismos then he was the puppet that carried out the orders from whatever higher ups that are powerful enough to influence the president to benefit their own evil intentions.
>>697481972
I fucking hope so
>>697481385
>I don't know much about Woodrow other than income tax and he was an alleged kkk member.
And this right here is why you're not qualified to make statements like that. GG.
>>697482091
I own a Prius that makes me better than you. Fuck this I'm late for my eucalyptus enema.
>>697481637
Who's a bible thumper?
>>697475986
the fuckup in libya and the arab spring fiasco will make people remember him, that is for sure.
obamacare has made it against the law for small companies to hire people full time. That is a disaster.
he is the first president to lower the US budget (from 4.4T to 3.9T) That is incredible!
To compare with a "republican", little bush and his fake war too the budget from 1.5T to 4.2T, the worst financial catastrophe in US history.
Final grade, B. pretty good. We will look at this as the "good times" after hillary gets elected.
>>697476576
So by taking troops out of Iraq, letting isil take over and grow was better than keeping them in.
>right best Muslim president ever
>>697481873
>THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FREE
All the air you're breathing is free.
>>697476576
He was elected in the hopes that racial tensions would die down, but instead he made shit worse. And free healthcare is bullshit.
>>697481791
GW sucked as well, I agree.
But Obama is just flat out weak as fuck and basically absent.
>>697481637
Lincoln was an alleged atheist and JFK was openly Catholic. Candidates religion doesn't really matter but at least they have a moral compass unlike Shillary.
>>697482285
yes, definitely better.
if you had any idea how much money we sank into that area you would agree too.
>>697477765
>there's no such thing as free health care
>>697482340
>I remember 7th grade
The context is govenrment programs, you utter moron.
>>697475986
That's not Reagan
>>697481972
remember you said this in 8 years after 4 years of trump and 4 of Hillary
because I'm sure we can all at least agree that whoever does win this year the odds of a second term dont look good
>>697482536
How is this bait? Is this the 7th grader talking again?
>>697482340
you think that air is free? if it was you would be breathing smog instead of air.
go to India or China and have a whiff
>>697482604
have you ever been to Europe faggot?
>>697479201
I would have to agree with this, Marines are good people for sure.. but they are a little crazy.
>source: im in the af
>>697482673
Do you know what taxes are, faggot?
>>697482673
Tell us about your tax rate, genius.
Do you even understand economics you fucking communist retard?
>>697476621
Sandbagged? Anon he came into power with a democratic Congress.
>>697482216
Enlighten me anon, what makes Woodrow the worst?
>>697481902
Alright, I'll go along with that. Clinton sparked A school shooting, Bush sparked A school shooting and Obama sparked 136. No doubt you can apply some mental gymnastics, cognitive dissonance and doublespeak on why your own logic is simultaneously watertight and flawed. True or false, 13% of the population are responsible for 50% of all homicides. True or false, the only time this ever gets mentioned is when people debate "racist facts". True or false, niggers literally dindu nuffin.
>>697482893
I hate Obama but you can't possibly blame school shootings on him.
>>697475986
I used to say he's the worst since Carter, but now I'd say he's the worst ever.
>>697476465
/thread
>>697482540
>govenrment programs
You did not specify it was about politics, you say "NO", but whatever, as for another example your voting rights are free too.
>>697482793
>>697482864
you pay taxes too but you don't even get healthcare, nice
and we could pay more taxes but we also get paid more
incarceration rate is up, deadly shootings nearly doubled, more crackdowns on medical marijuana than any president in the past (lol legal weed amirite?) the middle east is way worse off than when he took over, even if he did "end" the iraq war. Extended patriot act, more surveillance state than ever before, tons of unconstitutional drone strikes stoking the flames and killing thousands of innocent children. Partition in the labor force is worse, average pay has decreased and the cost of living has increased.
What would you say you do here, obama? Or am i just speaking to a bunch of correct the record fuckheads?
>>697476465
This. To people to bad always outweighs the good. Its a matter of how much bad they did. And this nigga really did what he could to clean up past presidents messes
>>697478908
>all he wants to be known as is a good person
that's true for most people... jesus christ you jarheads need to go to anger management and learn to relax
>>697479639
Anon do you literally blame the Republicans for everything. So somehow it's the Republicans fault for fucking up Obama's plans but its not to their credit all the shit they forced Clinton to do during his presidency. it'd the same situation so do they have complete control over the president or not
>>697482422
Right, right, because HIllary has no decent thought in her head. She only wants the presidency so she can run this country into the ground because she's the devil.
Also, I find it hilarious that people will refer to her as Shillary, then turn around and throw their vote at the orange guy that shares a bed with Putin
>>697480034
Slippery slope argument anon. Trump does not equal Kanye.
>>697483147
lol
everyone wants to complain. yet no one knows what they're complaining about or how to fix it.
>>697483383
>>697483326
>>697483281
>>697483230
these posts will go unnoticed. just like the candidate they represent
>>697483451
I'm not complaining or claiming to know the answers. But to say obama is a good president is a fucking stretch.
>>697476390
Economy out of the trash? Are you high? The health care law alone killed the economy for years to come...
>>697482793
There is one thing that American's don't realize about European health care.
Sure, the government foots the bill, but the ONLY reason it can afford to do so is because it costs them 6 times less to pay for the same healthcare.
In the US the government:
makes doctors study 4 extra years, this is bullshit
decides how many doctors a year to create. (yes, the government decides how many residences a year there will be. Medical schools have to turn down 50% + of qualified applicants) This is bullshit
Makes laws saying doctors can be sued for hundreds of millions for the slightest mess up. This is also bullshit. Yes, yes doctors have to be responsible, but the laws regarding doctor litigation in this country are obscene and only lawyers are raking it in. ,
doctors are making 180k a year, to start!. Their salaries are quickly going to 250k - 1m. This is also bullshit.
Finally, when you visit a doctor you are NOT the doctors client. Their client is the insurance company that pays them. They spend 5 minutes on you and 55minutes filling up paperwork for their client. This is super bullshit.
TL/DR America needs 10x more doctors. Once you have that you will not care if it is socilalized or not. Americans spend 6 times more than europe for worse health care.
>>697483127
There's a difference between a 25% tax rate and a 97% tax rate, Mohammad.
... But at least you get free band aids when your muslim brothers share their culture.
>>697477614
>A good amount of them did and it keeps me up at night knowing I couldn't do anything about it.
this meme has got to stop
>>697475986
word on the street is that the chicago violence is part of barrys gangs reasserting control so that he can jumpstart the cash machine when he leaves office
>>697483556
Of course. Because Americans are too stupid and lazy to look for an alternative to the 2party system. He's a better Bernie and better Trump all rolled into one.
>>697476390
how come fewer americans are working today than when he took office, yet there are more americans of working age than when he took office?
It's gonna be Hillary, because of Benghazi. BENGHAZI.
BENGHAZI!!!!!
Also, aside from free health care shit, Obama wasn't too bad, better than W
>>697483083
>YOU: he stopped the war in Iraq and tried to make Americans get free Healthcare. no white president ever did that
The context was healthcare, which is a govenrment program, you tremendous faggot. God damn you are stupid as fuck, boy.
>>697476252
looking on it from outside the US
>- got nobel peace prize for NOT being george w
>- sent out more drones than him anyway
>- didnt close down guantanamo as promised
>- PRISM, spying on everybody/ostracising Edward Snowden as a traitor
>- black people seem to be even more disenfrachised after his tenure
>+ arguably charming, great speaker
>+ same for his wife
>+ tried to get obamacare going
>+ helped LGBT people
judging by the HOPE and CHANGE he initially set out he couldnt quite live up to those promises
>>697483428
>Trump does not equal Kanye
I will admit that maybe "president trump" won't equal or lead to "president west"
however it could lead to West securing a nominee from one of the parties....
>>697483670
I'm glad I live in a country that has never seen muslim attacks since... well, never. Unlike you uh freedom guy?
But you have capitalism, who cares about health
>>697483670
>97% taxes just to get healthcare
>>697483127
Jesus Christ you are 12
>>697483147
It's nearing the end of his final term anon you know how Dems do. It's time to rewrite history and shine that turd. I mean Clinton came off smelling like roses after they spitshined his legacy.
>>697475986
He'll be remembered fondly. Doubly so now, given that our only two options for the future are complete shit.
>>697484034
I hope you get to that age with your shitty health system
>>697476390
Not understanding the cyclical nature of the economy. Interfered with private business to save select few.
Plus his drone campaign. I mean the blood on his hands is dripping.
>>697483951
Anon that was four scandals ago. But not that you care. You will still vote for her even if she were caught on video burning down a hospital for the lulz
>>697483954
"NO SUCH THINGS" is the opposite of "everything", if you want to be specific do not use absolute words first.
>>697484012
>Healthcare
*Death camps
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2161869/Top-doctors-chilling-claim-The-NHS-kills-130-000-elderly-patients-year.html
>>697484007
That would be hilarious. Imagine a debate where everyone is serious and Kanye just busts out a rap about how awesome and cool he is
>>697484011
>live in a country that has never seen muslim attacks
>>697484011
You must live in a country literally no one cares about tjen
>>697477171
I shill for Hill!
>>697475986
He was the least destructive of any in recent history and had a lower body count than W, but at the end of the day still a nigger.
>>697484549
>busts out a rap about how awesome and cool he is
Isn't that what every candidate is doing?
... Except the rap bit
>>697477908
No theyre more functional than retards. Have some feels for this guy he used to be human. Then he was bussed to an island at night forcibly indoctrined and brain washed by a government org then saw people die despite getting a job in the most dangerous "profession".
Hes a shell of a man and will always be looking for the pieces that were cut off in boot camp.
Sad people soldiers.
>>697475986
obama is the yao ming of presidents
tremendous potential and promise but never quite manages to live up to it
more relevant to the meme world than the real world
>>697484758
Yeah but Kanye does it with style. ANd probably without anyone even asking him a question. Didn't even realize the cameras were on yet
>>697484565
>italy
>muslim attacks
tell me one?
>>697484627
are you seriously saying it's better to get muslim attacks
Best president ever.
>>697484408
I tried readibg that article but i got too distracted by all the ads and tabloid bullshit.
Finally I managed to read it and its basically 2 or 3 guys saying some malpractice happened.
What's new?
>>697477171
>Regan was great
Economically, not so much.
>>697478595
Wait seriously? You pay solely by your health insurance?
>publicly endorsed a mosque directly linked to radicalized muslims
>publicly endorsed BLM even after it was revealed they were a hate organization established based on a tiny blip of black deaths caused by police
>half-assed told BLM thugs to dial back their chimping to no effect
>made healthcare unaffordable to most people and charges a mandate for those who dont have health insurance as a result.
>the guy who wrote the obamacare bill knew the bill wouldn't work and tried to get obama to repeal before the damage was done. Obama ignored him.
Shitty race relations and inflated healthcare costs will be his legacy.
>>697484878
Nope stop putting words in my mouth. But pretty much every major player on the world stagr(at least in the western hemisphere) is dealing with semi constant Muslim extremism and terrorism. If you can't see that merelybecause your country is one of the ones they deem to small or off the media's "holy shit list" then that's your problem
>>697484181
It's only shitty for people who don't want to work for it, so fuck them.
>>697485171
so now you're saying that Italy, the beacon of Catholicism, is not important enough for muslims to attack?
>>697484878
>tell me one?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Rome_and_Vienna_airport_attacks
>why not JFK?
>>697484933
>130K
>"Pffft it's just some malpractice in a broken healthcare system, good to see my tax money is spent wisely"
Europeans - not even once.
Also: ublock origin
>But your government have probably put a ad blocking tax on it.
>>697485496
He ended segregation.
>>697481385
Look up this event in the early 20th called THE GREAT DEPRESSION
But Bush did 9/11
>>697485496
Lazy fuck couldn't even be bothered to finish one term as president.
>>697475986
Looks like a gangster.
Coolidge was the best president. He did nothing, but shrink the government a little bit. Hard to top that.
>>697480494
W. Bush was a hell of a lot better president than Obama.
>>697485589
>exaggerating a figure given on a tabloid news article
Why do I even try...
This my nigga
>>697481093
Yeah because guns laws work so well just have to look at Chicago DC and New York.
>>697485856
>probably just gr8 b8 but...
I love how dems try to paint the Republicans as both dim witted idiots who barely have enough brains to function while at the same time being brilliant evil masterminds. The sad part it how no one seems to call them on this.
>>697484932
Enjoy your genocide and spoils system.
>>697477871
>If he would have focused on getting people back to work in his first 4 years then he could have done whatever he wanted for the next 4 with little contention. As is, he's pretty bad.
Do you even numbers?
>As of December, the number of total nonfarm jobs stands 9,265,000 higher than when Obama first took office.
>Meanwhile the unemployment rate went down again, to 5.0 percent. It’s now 2.8 percentage points lower than it was in January 2009, when the president first took office in the midst of the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression.
Historically, the jobless rate is significantly lower than it has been most of the time since 1948. The historical median is 5.6 percent.
>>697483855
He kept the old people who should lve retires employed creating a age divided labor force that fails to represent modern america but instead glorifies 80s style blue collar achievements.
>>697475986
Got troops out of Iraq
Kills Osama
Legalized gay marriage
Created jobs
And my grandmother still shouts to high heaven that "someone should shoot that nigger"
>>697486585
eh, making America more white wouldn't be a bad thing. The more white we are, the more successful we seem to be as a country.
>>697479717
>Implying that's a good thing
>>697486524
The truth is Republicans represent a huge swath of America, rich, poor, dumb, smart, old, young, white, brown, yellow, and sometimes, black.
Liberals are rich white elites, always.
The rest of the Democrats are just lazy as fuck.
Greatest? No but he was/is pretty good.
I would rate obama 8/10 and im not even a liberal
>>697486826
Are you actually stupid or just trying to look stupid?
>>697486826
based grandmother.
>>697486826
>>697486514
gun laws do work
we can ignore the fact that every school shooting happened in a gun free zone, because clearly criminals normally obey laws and only do crime where its allowed
tl;dr ban all guns because then criminals wont murder
>>697487008
>look how cool I am on /b/ guys
>>697486826
>Got troops out of Iraq
founded ISIS
>Kills Osama
The hero doctor that tracked him is rotting in pakistani jail while we give them billions.
>Legalized gay marriage
I agree with you here! about time those faggots got to feel the same pain that the rest of us feel.
>>697487036
Is this supposed to be bad?
>>697487036
Most of these are things he can't directly control. Congress makes laws, not the President. Stupid picture.
Gun crime (actually, ALL crime) has plummeted, year to year, for over twenty years.
The number of guns has increased every single year.
The number of gun owners has increased every single year.
The majority of states have moved towards shall-issue status for permits.
tl;dr - Gun laws have loosed, guns have increased, and all crime has fallen over the same period of time.
Lmao him better than Old Abe? Get the fuck out of here.
>>697487199
>founded ISIS
They've been around longer than Obama has been in office
>>697481093
>Obviously Obama's fault.
He is in charge of the country. He may not be the one at fault when it comes to creating the situation, but he is to be blamed for just letting it escalate - even though it was one of the few, primary reasons people voted for him.
Eight years, and not once did the though that more and stricter policing in black communities would be worth a shot. Because hell, who the fuck would want to set up a shop in an area where there is a high risk you will be robbed several times or have your shop looted or burned down come the next riot.
Then you have Obama practically encouraging BLM to burn down their own communities. He does nothing about the fact that the single motherhood rate in black communities is 70%, having grown over a couple hundred % since the days of the civil rights movement.
Obama, I was rooting for you from Europe back in 2008. You turned out to be a huge disaster, so just leave the fucking office already, no one wants you there anymore.
>>697487217
>debt, monopolies, worst election credibility, etc
"hurr is that supposed to be bad"
2/10 for reply
>>697476621
Can't change things if those actually running the country (corporations) don't want things to change.
>>697477459
Edgelord reporting for shitpost tinfoil hat duty
>>697483321
>death pannels if obama care was passed
Oh how i was waiting for them, and they never came
>>697487403
>Obama, I was rooting for you from Europe back in 2008.
fuck off
>>697487498
Lick my balls, I was 18 and uninterested in politics.
>>697485725
You sir are a fucking mong, he left office in 1921. Stock market crashed in '29, you stupid fucking retard. Not to mention he died in 1924. Drink all the cleaning products under the sink in your kitchen.
>>697476576
>>697487635
It's not that. It's that you think you know jack shit about america while being a europoor. Fuck off lmao.
>>697475986
wait a minute thats not trump
>>697487711
Considering the educational system over there, I'm surprised you even know how to type.
I guess congrats are in order.
>>697475986
Racial tension at highest point since late 60s.
Chose to ignore growing ISIS threat to score political points for "ending" the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan(still plenty of troops stationed there and in surrounding countries but, you know, whatever)
Continues to threaten the American people with unconstitutional gun laws through him and his Darth Sideous look-a-like ex-secretary of state.
Has underhandedly insulted the other major political party since he took office and then complained when they resisted his bullshit policies
Shown complete lack of spine web dealing with foreign affairs
No accountability for crimes committed by his cabinet either directly or indirectly
Sure, he's been a fucking box of chocolates.
He was terrible, but he will never be known for that because he's the first black president.
>>697475986
lmao are you kidding
middle of the road at best, bottom 10 at worst. typical wall st whore
>>697487358
You must be confused, Trump just said that obama and hillary founded ISIS
>>697487858
The educational system isn't shit. It's just unbalanced. A good american education is world class. A shitty american education is one of the worst in the west.
It's the same deal with income/wealth inequality. Our rich are rich as fuck, our poor are poor as fuck.
>>697488069
this,
>>697487861
>Has underhandedly insulted the other major political party since he took office and then complained when they resist
>being this dense
I'd like to examine your head
>>697477171
Clinton repealed Glass-Steagall and passed NAFTA and Reagan is literally worst 5 prez's alltime you dumb faggot, read a fucking history text
>>697483660
The trick as a doctor is to marry a malpractice lawyer. Double-Dipping!
>>697475986
>literally one of the worst presidents in history
>"was he the best president of all time?"
>there are people who SERIOUSLY think Obama was a good, no, the BEST President of all time
You people honestly scare me sometimes.
>>697488161
>getting this defensive
Whoa there buddy, just janking your dick a bit.
He wasn't the best but he wasn't the worst. He inherited a lot of shit to deal with.
>>697488297
sure kid. your 12 year old is showing.
>>697488415
...and then made things worse.
>>697476893
FDR
>>697475986
Last Presidents:
Reagan: 8/10
Bush: 5/10
Clinton: 6'5/10
Bush: 2/10
Obama: 7/10
Not bad at all, not the best.
>>697488161
Americans keep thinking this.
They also think that it is not ok to compare one student to another, so as to not hurt their feelings.
dafuq will you realize that you need competition in order to be world class?
the only fucking reason some american education is ok is because there are no americans as students. Take a peek inside any Engineering MS or PHD class in any top 50 university in the US.
>>697488588
>Obama: 7/10
>>697488588
Yeah he did a decent job not that bad not that good.
>>697488588
my grades, not too different from yours.
Reagan 8/10
Bush 7/10
Clinton 8/10
Bush 2/10
Obama 7/10
Next president 3/10
>>697476576
>Who is Richard Nixon
>>697488857
>Next president 3/10
lol
>>697488726
This.
Many people don't know it, but the USA's biggest import is highly talented students from OTHER countries with better education systems.
>>697488588
>Reagan: 8/10
ahahahahahahahhahahhahaha
Read a fucking history book, jesus fuck you're fucking autistic
>>697477765
Why do people say "wahhhhh nothings fwee somboboo has to pay for eet" like it's an argument agianst something? Nigger nobody thinks it just appears out of nowhere you're literally saying nothing and sounding like a retard doing it.
>>697488588
>putting obama 1 point under Reagan, one of the few 10/10s in US history
>giving Reagan a measly 8
>putting Obama above any of them except mayyyybe Bush JR
Kill yourself.
>>697475986
Yes. He won Nobel peace prize, economy is now booming, free health care for all, no more racism against minorities, women now have access to birth control pills, the rich are finally paying their fair share. Etc. Best Pres ever, wish he would run for a third term. They should change that law
>>697488136
>Believing everything trump says
This is a trump boner drone
>>697489583
That Nobel peace prize was bullshit no matter who you voted for. He didn't deserve that at all.
>>697489415
Then stop calling it free education when what you really want is that the rich will pay for you.
>>697489583
Strengthening international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. Good luck deciphering what the fuck that means.
>>697477325
When were you in Iraq?
>>697489750
Bullshit. It's his life work. GTFO trump shill
>>697489536
>Reagan, one of the few 10/10s in US history
Are you trolling?
>>697489583
>Free health care
>>697476621
>>697475986
obongo was definitely one of the top 5 WORST presidents.
>>697484408
Hahahahaha citing the dailyshit.
Oh Anon, how is your summer going.
>>697489823
In matters of political discourse free = publicaly funded. Lrn2context
>>697478503
Why, is Reddit the nexus of sanity on the Internet?
Anybody who thinks Trump would make a good president is a fucking fool.
>>697476576
>free Healthcare
I would be laughing really hard at this if it weren't for the fact that I lost my health care because of Obamacare. No problem I'll just get ObamaCare... the equivalent Obama Care option for what I had previously was 700 fucking dollars. Prior to Obamacare it was only 300.. Sure there were cheaper options but they literally covered nothing.
Yeah great fucking president.
>>697481873
Self-absorbed ideologue; not everything conforms to the dollar. There are somethings that should be protected, even when that runs against the bottom line.
>>697476576
>free healthcare
even if the healthcare system was public like in Europe it'd still not be free you fucking dipshit
Do you even know what taxes are?
>>697475986
No because all this black lives matter bs is perpetuated by him, he's part of the problem. I also got a major hit in taxes so he's the worst president so far as far as i'm concerned.
>>697481873
>but muh sheckles!!!
Old Jews taught you well.
New Jews laugh at you.
>>697490827
yes. Reddit is obviously the best place for you. You can talk about how much "Drumpf" is literally Hitler; discuss techniques on dying your hair red, blue or purple; and how to best prep your gf's bull.
>>697486594
That's no indication on how things are economically. Don't quote the stock market either. He's been good for the capital markets, but wall street will make money no matter who is in the Oval Office.
Take a look at gdp growth over his tenure. Middle class incomes. Healthcare costs. The fact that employment participation is at its lowest in decades.
He's been a terrible president from an economic standpoint.
>>697475986
No. But he wasn't a bad one either. Just a bunch of racist redneck hicks blaming everything on him. ALl the good stuff he tried to do was thwarted by republican congress. The Neocons ARE corporate america in case you haven't realized. They're in the back pocket of the insurance companies that don't want any competition, like a public option would have been.
Working class republicans might be the stupidest segment of people alive. I mean if you're a billoniair it makes sense to be a neo con, you're special interests are looked after. But to be a republican pleb is essential being a white uncle tom.
>>697492598
Let me guess: did they teach you that in your liberal arts program in college? Maybe your white privilege class?
Get real, loser.
>>697492598
you do realize that the fucked up system that is Obamacare was because Obama was also in bed with those insurance companies don't you?
>>697475986
Obviously. Seriously what competition does he have? Whitey McPasteyFace, Whitey McPasteyFace Jr.?
>>697477171
"regan was great"
HAHAHHAHAHHAHA
did you never learn about oliver north? Iran contra? War Profiteering. Regan was probably the most corrupt fucker around. mainly because he was a paid actor hired to "play president" while the military industrial complex ran amok in south america and the middle east. Using military planes to import an endless supply of cocaine....Then starting the "just say no" campaign. yeah great president.
>>697484258
Can you blame him? I mean if I had some hellfire missiles IDGAF about no "civilian casualties" SHit is about to blow up
>>697481278
Lowest approval rating of any president ever means he was the man? LOL
Not remotely the best, not remotely the worst.
Pretty average presidency all things considered.
>>697481873
Natural resources are free. That's a form of wealth. These things are restricted to create the artificial economy we live in.
The economy is a human construct. You understand that right? It wasn't handed down from god. It's a rather old system too, in sore need of some updating.
>>697492810
let me guess: you also think President Reagan wanted to declare ketchup as a vegetable for school lunches.
>>697478141
Yeah they're highly trained canon fodder those marines. You'd need to be a psycho to take on that job. Or just really dumb to buy into all the war glory bs.
Either way thank god for people like that. Glad we utilize them properly as kamazi fodder.
>>697492810
This
>>697475986
Obama was the best ever. It's all down hill from here
>>697492810
yeah, the US always does this kind of shit. Just like obama is doing in venezuela and he did in libya.
Reagan was great despite all this, why? because he fucking won the war with Russia.
Nobody messed with america back then, people looked up to it. All of that is now gone.
>>697493324
Says the atheist kid who's one more push till he falls off the edge and goes on a spree killing rampage.
>>697493250
If indeed he also wanted that, I couldn't give a fuck.
I reserve my vitriol for the economic devastation he and Thatcher wrought in the name of ideology.
>>697492810
Welcome to the real world, young padawan. Life is really hard out there.
>>697493179
This
Facts are forever. He doubled the national debt crippling American. He pushed blacks to think they are held down. If people thought for 1 minute they cant be held down if a black can become president.He stole the win in Iraq by withdrawing US troops all at once. This led to ISIS taking over. He had both house and senate for 2 years and achieved nothing. He and the other uninformed blame bush GOP, Press, God and anyone else for his failures. Losers always blame others. Mush more but this will inflame the lame.
>>697493179
>Natural resources are free
this is false.
>>697493522
stay delusional, retard
>>697493399
I assure you nothing done under obama came anywhere close to the scope of what wa done under Reagan. Further more we never "won" the war with Russia. Russia defeated itself from the inside due to massive corruption. You want to chalk that up as a US victory?
>>697475986
Coldest Presidential Suit??????
>>697493250
Pizza is a vegetable. Ketchup is tomatoes so it should be a fruit.
>Fish are friends, not food.
>>697493789
I do count that as a massive win for US. and many of the reasons why they fell was caused by some of that "scope of what was done under reagan"
is it right? of course it is right, everything is right if you win. If you lose they call them concentration camps.
>>697493645
This is not false. These things are free.
It's the fighting over them and processing them that costs money.
nice try though.
>>697493602
Do you have a point other than attempting to be condescending? You're saying things while saying nothing at all.
