With the current feminist movements do you think the roles for men and women will switch? Like they work the cars while we do the laundry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnoYOPg5GLQ
feminism at it's best
no
No.
>>697149821
no, world war 3 will give us bigger things to worry about.
Work on cars?
Yes women are on average more educated than men now. I think it's disgusting personally but I guess that's how much they hate us.
>>697149821
not everyone does the same thing in your little fascist fantasy world where everyone lives according to what some fat lard feminist on day time tv says
>>697149821
and the ugly people losers is ugly and smell like poop like beyonce and is a creep
no, because once they realize how fucking easy they have it - they want to stay home and raise a fucking baby.
Would actually make sense if we assume same intellect. Since the manual labor needed to keep a house in a certain state, seems to be work enjoyed or done by men.
So why not have her work while you do the work around house and repair stuff or add a winter garden. Instead of having to do that after you came home from work?
>>697150271
because she cant feed a family with her knitting hobby or whatever women actually enjoy doing.
>>697149897
That video is absolutely infuriating to watch god fucking damnit!
>>697150373
> look at me I'm a stereotypical asshole
Tell me, how do men earn money drinking and driving cars or whatever it is we enjoy doing?
>>697149821
it would be nice if it is. ill stay at home with our daughters while she is out working.
i can TOATLLY dig that.
no
No Op, op. Women are fuckign terrible at running things. Just look at african americans who have the most matriarchal culture in the history of our species.
>>697150560
Word.
I've offered to be a stay at home dad loads of times.
Unfortunately I hate cleaning and am terrible at ironing.
I bake a mean Victoria sponge though
>>697149821
you can still kill yourself, OP, in any world.
>>697150485
wut. who's talking about booze and cars?
>manual labor needed to keep a house in a certain state
stay on topic you twat.
>>697150485
Tell me, how do women earn money buying clothes and flaunting their naked ass in public or whatever it is they enjoy doing?
>>697150811
You mean like you did? Implying that women aren't capable of anything but the lowliest physical activities like knitting?
>>697150998
> yay, more stereotypes
>>697149821
Ofc no. Womens only take feminist card, when it makes profits to them.
>>697151054
>women aren't capable
woooow, you must've left elementary school early. reading comprehension, man.
>>697150811
fuck manual labor. if i somehow end up being a stay at home dad or something i am gonna automate the fuck out of housekeeping. also laser tripwires, motion detectors, radar. it's basically going to end up as the iron man lab
>>697150782
>cleaning and ironing
hey, my house, my rules. if im in charge of ironing, my wife would go to work in wrinkles. and it's fine by me. the whole 'straight and pristine' bussinesswear is THE PATRIACHY heritage and should be thrown out as such.
>>697151184
> generic insult
>>697149821
>with the current feminist movement...
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thats whats gonna happen. And fron rhe looka of it, the feminazis are pissed off about it
>>697151600
agreed. feminazis wanna paint it as a misogynist movement but it obviously isn't. if you're gonna say mgtow is misogyny then feminism is misandry.
>>697149821
Do you realise how offensive that photo is? Grow up, fucktard.
>>697150076
exactly! Nuclear War 2016! Vote for Trump!
Roles are a choice ,numbnuts. Women would rather stay at home typically than be in the work force.
>>697149821
Maybe in 10 years time all the miners, plumbers, bricklayers, electricians, road workers and labourers will be women too.
>>697151600
MGTOW: The movement that literally nobody gives a shit about exept your parents - who feel sorry for you and think you're a biological failure. But go ahead: you're doing Darwins work right there!
>>697152030
Or you know, machines
>>697151054
>>697151184
silly anon. everyone knows sjw's cant read...
>>697152080
My Gains Taunt Other Women?
wtf is mgtow
>>697149821
the current feminist movements have nothing do to with feminism..
those women are just butthurted ppl, and they preaching feminazi ideas...
I'm all about equality but this is just straight up shit, it's the negative of patriachy
TOTALLY NOT EQUALLITY
>>697152150
>wats googule?
>>697149897
>GET OUT OF MY CAR
>>697149897
That's just hilarious
>>697152150
Men going their own way: basically turning down women even if given the chance to get in a relationship because you're too scared that she'll divorce you or cheat on you. A condition induced by spending too many nights in feminism hate threads.
>>697152158
to be fair - He man is a rather isolated case of super heros, you have to admit female characters get sexualized a lot more.
>>697152080
When its proven that single men get further in life without the burden of a leech of wife and kids.
Stay salty bitch.
>>697149821
You know, it wouldn't even be that bad if the roles did switch. Imagine women getting all the blame for shit going wrong instead of us.
>>697152625
Oh i'm sure you'll love those fancy dollars when you're an old and bitter fuck who dies alone without offspring and knows it's his own fault for listening to the people on the internet.
>>697152870
>old
>bitter
And
>happy
That my fellow men didn't get cucked by 3rd wave feminist ideals
>>697149897
WHAT IS THIS TELL ME NOW
>>697152937
Wanna make a list of super heros vs the percentage of clothing they wear? Dont even get me started on japanese characters.
>>697149821
It cant work that way and other countries will dominate any other country that foolishly does this
>>697152484
You're a full on actual retard aren't you?
>>697149821
no. the current feminist movement has actually impeded progress for women. oh and both sexes can do that shit.
>>697152870
Looks like you're the one who's a bit bitter and scared of ending up alone.
>>697153186
big deal. women face the burden of sexualization. men face the burden of having to be superhero. please stop acting like women are somehow special victims. it's equally bad for both genders just in different ways
>>697153186
> women tend to wear a lot more revealing clothes than men, in basically an society that let's them choose
> get mad when female superheros dress like most women
That being said, they could tone down the sexuality but the market for superheros has long be undersexed geeks that enjoy scantly clothed women. So stop acting like it's a mystery why the wear so little.
> why do women in porn always play the submissive part
> because mostly men watch it
>>697153309
So you're seriously defending that you don't want offspring?
>>697153700
Some people don't want children. Shocking, isn't it?
What modern feminists don't realise is that they're not advancing civilisation, they're just repeating a cycle. Historically, every time a great power starts doing really well, women start wanting what men have. They start demanding more women in roles such as a judge or surgeon. This has been observed in civilisations such as Ancient Rome and Islamic empires. What happens next is the distinction between men and women becomes blurrier and the family is no longer the same which leads to an overall decrease in morality and another power attacks and overruns them. this makes life hard especially for the women who live there. Notice how America is trying to bring women into combat roles while Russia and Middle Eastern countries are crushing degenerate behaviours such as homosexuality.
The West is declining while everyone else is becoming stronger. If they overrun us we fucking deserved it for letting women control us
>>697153454
Actually i can agree with what you've said, i was just talking about sexualization and not the general situation.
>>697153583
I never said that i don't know why it's the case, i just understand that chicks might feel a little less comfortable to dress like their favourite character from their favourite show because they often dress ridiculously sexually. Hell, some might actually enjoy that, but i understand that most probably wouldn't.
Wow... it's interesting (sad, and fucked, but interesting none the less) the rampant sexism and misogyny of many people on here. But what is also interesting to not is that a fear of something in this case: a fear of women, can be expressed as so much hate.
>>697149897
That man... He is impressive and intimidating. If I was a girl or gay I'd be feeling things right now.
>>697149897
>but you're not to yell at me
>>697149821
that's retarded,m i hate feministss and think they're a threat to society but that is ridiculous, there aren't enough people who have that mindset
>>697154258
Please tell me this is bait.
>>697153787
No, women have been treated unfairly for thousands of years, that has not changed. The new intersectional feminist movement, is about equality for everyone, and it acknowledges that everything is connected and that these issues are complex, there are good and bad sides to things. I know there are some whining anti-men feminists but those aren't people that get the true meaning of feminism, in my opinion.
>>697150136
Jesus christ it's a female bababooey
>>697154457
I mean, actually not really at the moment, I didn't really care if people noticed it, that's why I didn't respond to anyone in particular, just sharing my honest opinions like everyone else.
>>697154470
what's sad is that the feminists who are seen/heard in media outlets arew these anti men whining cunts, and they're the ones who best can convince people because of it.
>>697154149
>>697154149
In that case maybe women should seek to define their own hero's instead of forcing old hero's to change.
But I guess that's not profitable enough for the companies who own that shit. So they rather alienated their original audience in favor of pleasing potential audience members.
Which I guess is also the reason why people get so mad about female Thor and black iron man.
I wouldn't mind superheros for women that have female fantasies of male characters.
> imagine old white dudes protesting about them being the villain in most books.
>>697149821
it already happened
>>697154470
>Women have been treated unfairly for thousands of years.
The sooner people stop believing this the better. Jesus what a victimhood complex.
>>697154470
Women already achieved equality way back in the 60s. Anything after that is just making it easier for women while ignoring men.
>>697149897
GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>697150617
she's got one of those cute/innocent faces, its such a turn on to see she's slutty enough to get her nips tatted up like that
>>697154258
It's mostly not fear of women as much as fear of intimacy/their own feelings.
Go back to women studies where you belong.
>>697154470
>women have been treated unfairly for thousands of years, that has not changed
stopped reading there
how retarded can one be
>>697154258
No, we don't fear women. The fact is that the 3rd wave fem movement is about giving women ALL the power. I'm for equality. I agree the females have been shit on since thr begining of time and I also belive that they should be treated equally(pay, rights, etc). What the 3rd wave wants is more than equal. In my eyes men and women are different no matter what but instead of fighting each over over our differnces why don't we help each other out when it comes to our weaknesses and advance humanity as a whole instead of bickering over petty bullshit
>>697154774
This. Women thought being a man was easy and we got non-stop privileges for no reason. What they didn't realise is that our lives are full of obligations. Now they just want what we get without having to work for it while also receiving the same special treatment they've been getting for thousands of years
>>697154373
Can confirm, am faggot
>would let him force me to blow him in his car and be yelled at to get out of his car afterwards
>>697154743
Does it bother you THAT much if the creators of these characters decide to widen their original audiences by creating more characters or changing a few aspects? I personally don't care, but i'm not pissed about the new ghost busters movie - i just wouldn't watch it because i'm not part of the target audience.
>>697154695
the mainstream media is corrupt and skews everything the wrong way. So, yeah it's sad, it's also fucked up.
>>697150560
Its an easy fucking gig. I stayed home with the kids one day because she was going to an interview. It is sooooooo much better than going to work. She always bitched about how hard it is to be a stay at home mom...its bullshit. Its super fucking easy and I actually had fun. I would trade in a heartbeat if she could make any money. She chose a bullshit degree in college though so she cant make enough to keep us out of poverty if we did.
>>697150271
Because women are lazy. Think about it. They get more scholarships and are constantly encouraged to major in STEM but they always choose something that they'll never use like psychology or women's studies. Because they don't require you to think or commit any physical labor.
>>697152625
When your dead who will care?
>>697154774
men have also been treated unfairly, patriarchal ideologies aren't good for anyone, also people are just fucked up to each other in general and lots of people are oppressed and screwed over on a daily basis in many ways. I am not victimizing myself any more than I am recognizing the struggles of anyone else.
>>697155283
Would you let him RP you as that fucking bitch, only to cudd---wait, this is about to get legitimately gay. Time to go find some titty videos.
>>697154803
No one is trying to ignore men. Also saying women achieved equality is like saying racism is over because we have a black president. Both racist and sexist values are alive and well in America.
>>697155384
>have hobbies
>one hobby is video games. It helps distract from reality
>women constantly call my hobby problematic and lobby to have it changed to fit their agendas despite not even playing it themselves
>my video game is no longer what it used to be
A cancer that spreads accurately describes feminism.
heil die orange fürher
>>697155702
rationality? In my /b/??
>>697154950
I'm good, I'm not good with college...but I like this, I hadn't thought of it this way before
If feminists get their way, men will be either killed or castrated when they reach a certain age. The survivors will be kept in camps to be visited by female family members and/or rented out and returned like library books. Women will save the desirable semen, collected before euthanasia or castration, along with artificial insemination, for breeding. Sex will become a thing of the past.
>>697154149
>Actually i can agree with what you've said, i was just talking about sexualization and not the general situation.
The general situation is that men are adored for their strength and women are adored for their beauty. Saying that one or the other should not be allowed is pretty much declaring a war on a gender. If feminists believe gender roles are oppressive, they should be putting a lid on them for both genders. But what do we see? We see that feminists want to ban sexualization of women, but at the same time sexualization of men is increasingly celebrated and encouraged in the name of liberation. This ubiquitous hypocrisy is infuriating.
>>697149897
>you dont have the right to be mad at me
>>697155687
Aight fam. I totally would though
>>697153186
are you stupid or what?
sexualization have nothing to do with the amount of cloths...
Also, no man have the physical appearence of superman or batman...
And keep in mind that different things are sexual on man and different on a woman
>>697155139
Well good I'm glad you believe that people should be treated equally. I don't agree that all modern feminists are how you say, but I'm sure there are some, however most feminists I know, just support equality for everyone.
>>697155702
I can't talk about how the gender pay gap is a myth at uni because I'll get kicked out. It happens all the time. Meanwhile you can say "men are stupid" and no one gives a shit.
>>697155602
You will. For replying to my post. Years after i die you will remember replying to my post and my words in my reply will haunt you till the day you die... also i fucked a "feminist" once and now shes my submissive wife whom agrees that the 3rd wave fem movement is cancer.
>pic unrelated
>>697149821
Nope, they won't be able to create totalitarian states. Loads of democracies in the western world will see a rift at some point somewhat soon, if it continues. It's not just feminism that will be affected, nationalism and other types of identity politics will fall flat when people realize that they achieve nothing, and polarize people to the point of deadlock. Too bad it will be replaced by something equally stupid. True liberalism, what you amerifags call libertarianism, is the to date only way we can start moving away from corruption and broken promises. Anarchy will never work.
>>697150216
This sums it up
>>697150485
Nascar
>>697149897
I'd smack that bitch up
>>697150805
Not with that airsoft gun you nigger
>>697155182
Well, I for one, am a woman that acknowledges the struggles of everyone, including men. The patriarchy hurts men as well by putting them in boxes and pushing them to be more aggressive and not express their emotions.
>>697155702
>women's equality wasn't fully earned
>racism against blacks still exists
Okay. So when was the last time a male said he was raped by a woman and it was covered in the news for a month? When was the last time a man was sexually harassed at work and full blown action was taken instead of just telling him to suck it up? When was the last time the news covered stories of black on white racism or black on white shootings?
Keep your shills to yourself
>>697155625
And just what is a patriarchal ideology, and what are the predominant ones in the real world?
>>697152377
>I'm going to say shit about a topic I have no idea about.
*basically turning down women even if given the chance to get in a relationship
You can be in a relationship but don't get too attached because they,woman, shouldn't be your main priority.
*you're too scared that she'll divorce you or cheat on you
That's the thing though. It isn't an irrational fear to have. More than half of marriage end in divorce within 10 years. And the vast majority of those divorces are initiated by the woman. It's a real risk. Are you willing to toss a coin betting on half of your wealth and riches for potentially 18+ years?
*A condition induced by spending too many nights in feminism hate threads.
"Hurr Durr you're all the same" No one's saying that some losers aren't using MGTOW as a crutch but don't mistake that for the majority. When you have old, young, rich and poor men who can share their experiences and see the patterns in how reality is fucking them over you'd be keen to at least listen.
In all honesty would you get married to some 30 y/o woman who hit the wall and only sees to win from financially raping you in court?
>>697155713
I have no problem with people playing video games, and I consider myself a feminist
At this point I'm just waiting for China to invade my country (Australia) so I can die in battle while the women at home have a healthy dose of reality in the form of small Chinese cocks up their arses.
>>697155826
I am a feminist, and this sounds awful. I think you have it all wrong. You can be a feminist and love men, I know I do!
>>697156457
smells like butthurt
>>697155999
>most feminists I know, just support equality for everyone.
Unfortunatly the majority of feminits i see online are the "castrate all men" mentality which leads me to believe all feminists are that way. Which leads me towards hatered which leads to a neverending cycle of retardation on both sides.
>>697153186
1) How is this not a represented in society? Why the fuck is it wrong for girls to wear what they want, which obviously to some extent include tops that reveal cleavage, short shorts, skirts, tube tops etc? How is this a problem?
If you don't want to do wear that yourself, that's completely fine, all you have to do is wear other clothing. No one will stone you for it.
2. Super heroes are obviously meant to cater to being idolized. That means being as appealing as possible. That includes sexualized clothing and physical features. It caters to what you wish you were, that's the whole point. You want to be 'sexy', that's pretty close to the average person's definition of sexy, no matter if it's a male or female character.
3. Why the fuck does it matter?! How is it a problem that a fictional character wears skimpy clothing? Are you implying you are unable to make a decision yourself, that you are completely devoid of free will? You don't have to comply with anyone's standard of beauty, you don't have to do anything. Grow some fucking balls and be yourself instead of limiting others.
>>697156457
Why do all of the ministers of defense in the very top look like they have to go to their son's soccer practice in 30 minutes?
>>697155826
have you ever dated a woman? they love sexy too
what the fuck are you talking about?
>>697156693
>muh egalitarianism
When/if war breaks out they'd likely be replaced. If woman can't even enter elite special forces squads what place do they have leading an army. Just my opinion though.
>>697156486
That's like saying you can be a chauvinist and respect women.
>>697149897
can some autism count how often he is saying it?
>>697149897
this guy's fucking retarded lol
he should have just called the cops after telling her a couple times and her refusing, there's no need to yell like a neanderthal
>>697156486
>>697156774
Just to let you guys know this was an idea pitched by a feminist in an article. I think you can still find it online, if not some screencaps or reactions of it on YouTube
>>697156855
Hell they look like they couldn't even join the local police force
>>697156575
Yeah I am pretty sick and tired of having to be taught not to rape while not being able to criticise feminism in public or having my life ruined by one woman who falsely accuses without any evidence.
>>697155384
... but it bothers you THAT much that you demand changes in fictional universes that you simply don't have to comply with. Stop pretending like you have no free will, I get that you wish to be considered a victim, but guess fucking what, you're not. You're even trying to justify it through the tiny perspective of cosplaying, as if people in general dress up like their favourite characters. As if men by default are comfortable about themselves because male comic book characters statistically wear more clohing. That's so far fetched it's ridiculous. Life is not cosplay. And even so, no one forces you to cosplay a character you feel uncomfortable dressing as.
Feminists think women are the "better" gender, but let's look at it historically, which gender managed to oppress and basically enslave the other gender for centuries?
>>697149821
women don't want to switch roles or equality. They want to do nothing, have men do everything, and complain about how life is unfair.
>>697156420
Yet you comply with a movement that wishes to change a FICTIONAL universe on moral grounds. Any political ideology that presents itself as superior moral, and not a political ideology is down right dangerous. It causes radicalization, and is easy to infiltrate or use to brainwash people.
>>697156933
mate, are you stupid?
The ideas of one feminist, doesn't mean it's the ideas of all feminists..
>>697156605
yeah I'm starting to see that, the never ending cycle of hate and misunderstanding, and that's one of the reasons I like to come on this site, to stop the hate, to connect with people and have a real conversation, to try to come to an understanding (also the memes, the feels, the trolling, and occasionally I'll click on a porn thread lol feminist like porn too)
sheeet, i went to eat and come back to see 10+ gigant ass posts replying to me and i have to go damnit
LOOK AT ALL THESE PEOPLE THINKING ANYONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT THEIR OPINION HAHAHA!
>>697151237
But its not your house anymore son. Your wife is paying the rent now.
>>697157303
>to stop the hate
Get the fuck off my 4chan right fucking now
>>697157301
lol I never said that actually. I was just pointing that out. No need to get so defensive, faggot
>>697156620
Beauty standards can have a real affect on people especially young teens, but I see your point, people can reject those standards...and good on ya if you do, no judgements either if you don't though.
>>697154470
>true meaning of feminism
Special privileges for women at the expense of white men.
>>697156933
>Hell they look like they couldn't even join the local police force
Top kek. In all seriousness what are the requirements to be a defense minister if not actually experience in defense?
>>697157349
This is just stupid OP... Who will drive the women to the garage shop if we're busy doing housework? Think before you speak, dumbass.
>>697156486
Modern "Feminism" is bullshit, they have done nothing so far. Just scared some news outlets and game devs.
Ok I accept that there are no man hating feminists, but why are they feminists?! Because they say they are. None of them do jack shit. And the annoying ones like Sarkeesian are trying to use idiotic tactics to "Clear media". Sexism will always be there in media and that's not a bad thing... Our main biologic function is sex...
And one last small thing if feminists are for equality why don't they do anything for men, why don't they start censoring ads directed towards men?
>>697156873
Um no it's not...where in the definition of feminism does it say you have to hate men? Feminism is advocating for equality, it's almost like the opposite of chauvinism in a way...
feminism
noun fem·i·nism \ˈfe-mə-ˌni-zəm\
Popularity: Top 1% of lookups
Simple Definition of feminism
: the belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities
: organized activity in support of women's rights and interests
chauvinism
noun chau·vin·ism \ˈshō-və-ˌni-zəm\
Popularity: Top 1% of lookups
Simple Definition of chauvinism
: an attitude that the members of your own sex are always better than those of the opposite sex
: the belief that your country, race, etc., is better than any other
Source: Merriam-Webster's Learner's Dictionary
>>697156486
>You can be a feminist and love men, I know I do!
>You can be a racist and love niggers, I know I do!
>>697157303
Looks like a feminist and a /b/tard found some common ground
>>697157747
Just like BLM is saying they are for equality, and now they are demanding their own country. STOP HIDING BEHIND THE FUCKING DICTIONARY DEFINITION.
>>697156984
of course people should be taught not to rape though? but critic is fine, as long as it's respectful. And as far as false rape accusations, I'm sorry if that happened to you, that is awful. In most cases however the victim is telling the truth and is blamed or not believed.
>>697149897
I do my own laundry and maintain my car
>>697157481
According to Wikipedia:
"In many nations it is a strong convention that the defence minister be a civilian, in order to highlightcivilian control over the military, though it's not uncommon for the defence minister to have some (or even extensive) military experience. In less democratic countries, the minister is often an active military official."
So basically: Developed countries like to cuck themselves by making their minister of defense a civie and other countries have military experienced defense ministers
>>697149821
>implying women are capable of doing jobs requiring logic and reasoning.
>>697157747
Let me put it this way. For all intents and purposes, feminism is female chauvinism. Men are the evil oppressor (patriarchy), women are the innocent victim. Attitude of superiority right there.
>>697149821
i'm in a relationship that practices role reversal, ask me anything
>no i'm not a cuck. we both hate that shit
>dick is average size
>neither of us are feminists and i actually think they're pants-on-head retarded
pic not related
>>697158228
What do you mean you "practice" role reversal?
>>697157464
Then we should teach young children that they don't need to apply to other people's bullshit and be themselves instead. Not try to censor and change the world to a safer place, because it gets us nowhere. I was brought up with the main goal of thinking for myself. I'm 21, I'm not the old man saying "back in my day", because most people my age never were brought up in a home where knowledge and freedom to be who you are was nurtured. I still think there's a lot to be done, but in the end we will always have lazy parents that regret having kids. We will always have kids that doesn't function properly in society. We will always have murder, we will always have rape. We will always have bullies, we will always have war. BUT we can work to minimize it. And that is not done by polarization, which feminism contributes to.
>>697158043
I guess I understand why people want a civ at the head of the military but... Nope, I can't kid myself, why the fuck would that be a smart idea?
>>697157031
>Feminists think women are the "better" gender
False see:http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/feminism
And a quote from Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie’
feminist—“[a] person who believes in the social, political, and economic equality of the sexes.”
“My own definition of a feminist is a man or woman who says ‘Yes there’s a problem with gender as it is today and we must fix it, we must do better.’ All of us, men and women, must do better. “
>>697156886
or pull her out ?
Feminist are fucked if the men quit working. They can't get the concept of how to change a tire
>>697158318
i do the dishes, cook, clean... basically the role of a 50s housewife while she works. i do have a job, but it's part time and only for the benefits
>>697158356
Seriously. I'd rather have a wartorn veteran who knows the ins and outs of combat as a defense minister than someone who's never fired a gun in their life.
I see it as a patient game. All we have to do is establish the dominance that we know we have, then they might fuck off. If not, we start the killings. I don't know man. Its fucking ridiculous.
>>697158325
Well I don't think all feminists contribute to that, I think it goes both ways, people that are against feminism contribute to the polarization as well, but I do agree we should teach people to think for themselves and use critical thinking.
>>697154470
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/no-true-scotsman
No.
>>697149821
I just want sauce on OP's pic
No, people should just do what they want to do. And things are fine the way they are. If a man feels uncomfy with his identity or role as a man, nothings stopping him from doing what he identifies with. We just need freedom, that's all.
>>697149897
She has the right to refuse to get out. That Neanderthal denied her service and didn't drop her off at her destination. What a fucking big mouthed faggot
>>697158852
this.
>>697158657
>https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/no-true-scotsman
Okay I read the little blerb on the site, and I see your point, maybe I was being a bit high and mighty, like I'm the decider of the true definition of feminism, because yes there were some separatist factions in the 70s that called themselves feminists, and there are women today who hate men and say they are feminist. I however, don't support that with my own definition of feminism and many people I know who are feminist support equality, but I guess you are right in that I can't say that one is more "true" just because I support it.
>>697150620
That just proofs that noggers can't run things
>>697158619
Now you're either generalizing the people opposed to feminism as "angry white cis men", or you genuinely believe that someone not being with you means they're against you. You're still looking at the political spectrum in a one dimensional way. You're missing that people against the movement, the ideology as a whole, can share many values with you. That doesn't mean they fall under your ideology, because it includes so much more. Your argument is that someone fights you all the way, because they're not with you, when in reality there are many political ideologies that present themselves as wanting to create equality between a number of groups, sexes/minorities/foreigners/social standing... , but what makes them different is HOW they do it. This is a cornerstone of any ideology. I don't have to be your polar opposite to disagree with you. Get it?
>>697158228
>>697158318
>Pegging
The answer is "no".
>>697158852
this is the voice of reason
Nah, most rules are defined by physical aptitude and mental fortitude.
Women lack these things. They have emotional range and physical appeal, but that's about it.
Intelligence is individually relative.
>>697152082
Yeah currently in that business making parts with 50+ year old machines and the only woman in the building is the wife of the boss. Sits in the air conditioned office
>>697159194
lots of that to, yeah. also she pretty much wears the pants and always has the final say in everything. we're both incredibly happy with things that way tbh fam
>>697158366
You can always tell an ideology is obsolete when people feel the need to redefine it.
>>697149821
Obama: "My fellow americans, there are too few women in STEM jobs in America. But the 99.9% male dominated trash hauling industry is just fine"
>>697149821
No, because they only want equality to do the good jobs, not the shitty ones. Ever seen a female binman? No, and you never fucking will.
>>697159096
Yes. BUT you're also missing the fact that this is all based around the same ideology. There's no break away factions, feminism is in it's cradle, there's no way there's a separation of ideologies, like socialism and communism for instance. They wouldn't even call themselves the same things.
The break away factions you speak of, and this is on a political party level, or below that, is simply choosing another method of action. They still apply to what makes feminism feminism. They still share the values, they still support the original idea, the notion that women are oppressed, and the overview remains the same. The difference is how this change is taking place on a personal level.
Russian nazis are still nazis even if they're not German, and doesn't take the same course of action as the German nazis of the 30's.
>>697159163
I am not genreralizing all people opposed to feminism as "angry cis white men" there are men and women of all races that are opposed to feminism, there are also men and women of all races that support it. You and I just disagree on the main ideoligy of modern feminism or whether or not it is trying to be inclusive. I know you don't have to be my polar opposite.I was just saying that sometimes, I feel like people that are opposed to feminism, sometimes don't understand the point of feminism, or what I believe it is, which is: equality,
>>697159548
For some reason I read binman as batman... so yeah it still made sense.
>>697159412
Doesn't that mean the idea is moving forward in new ways, if people are redefining it?
>>697149897
What the fuck is wrong with her.
>>697159858
No it means there's a crisis of identity, it means the idea itself is threatened with obsoleteness.
>>697159743
Then you either don't understand what polarization means, or you just changed your mind and are trying to sweep that fact under the rug.
That I do not agree with you doesn't mean I contribute to the polarization in today's politics, which you completely agreed with just now, intentionally or not.
>>697159792
Great.
>to be read in gravely throaty voice
>"my name is Bin Man. As a child I went to the theater with my parents. After we left, walking in a dark alley a man approached and asked my father for a light. He said thank you and threw the empty marlboro box on the ground. Ever since that day I have vowed to clean up the streets of Gotham"
>>697159588
Okay but some feminists want equality while others want separation and to be as your saying "treated better than men" so in a way the outcome is totally different, because what they want because they believe women are oppressed is totally different. (also most feminists who want equality also believe men are oppressed too, just that they also have some privileges as well)
>>697160048
Fuuuuuuuuuck this should be a movie with a woman as Bin Man!!! Take that feminists
>>697159986
not that anon and as much as i hate feminism, no definition is concrete.
>>697149821
I can actually see it going the other way, and see men upraise against it putting woman back a few pegs
>>697159986
well honestly feminism had to change, first wave feminism was racist as hell, this new intersection wave of feminism is better in my opinion.
>>697160137
To make something concrete is pretty much what defining something actually is....
>>697160137
thank you. at least you see that. I wish you didn't hate feminism though. I ask though, do you support equality or equal treatment of all people?
>>697149897
"you are facing.."
"i am facing a moron!!!"
>lost
>>697160161
why does it have to be men against women or women against men, feminism is about equality for all! If people aren't portraying that and calling themselves feminists, well, that's a damn shame, cause they are giving feminism a bad name.
>>697160161
Women have already put themselves down a peg. When ever they try and make financial decisions it always ends up being a disaster.
>>697160371
not at all. pic related. to be fair though, i have no problem with feminsim before 3rd wave. i despise egalitarianism though as well as rulers. if someone can't think outside of the black and white dichotomy, they're not really worth my time
>>697160562
This is 4chan son.
>>697149821
I already don't know how to work on cars but can do a mean load of laundry.
>>697160090
Equality doesn't mean shit, didn't you get that? Your definition of equality is as personal as mine, it means nothing because there is no TRUE equality. How we can measure our equality is in the end in how content we are with our society. How close does it fall to the majority's expectation of equality? Are most people feeling like they're being treated?
These questions are PERSONAL, but feminism, just like many other ideologies, says it's THE ONE TRUE way of achieving equality. Do you honestly think that the feminists you find too extreme to agree with, consider themselves extreme, on a more than relative level? Do you not think they tell themselves "WE fight for equality!"?
>>697160270
... do you have any grasp of language and definitions and how they evolve?
>>697155283
>>697155872
Fucking disgusting faggot
>>697159160
>proofs
You're an embarrassment.
>>697149821
this pic is my fetish
>>697160732
You mean how they struggle for existence.
>>697149897
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnoYOPg5GLQ
wow this guy is really fucking angry...I wonder what happened...he's acting like such an ass, he's really freaking out, but like I am curious what happened beforehand on the ride over...
feminism gave them the power to be pornstars and cam from home for money and have a bunch of sex partners.
very respectable isn't it?
oh yeah, allowed the to vote and work, almost forgot. look where the voting has gotten us. oh and nice work force, there's what, like zero women in engineering?? KEK.
>>697160562
>implying feminism DOESN'T HAVE FUCKING FEM- IN IT'S NAME, it has ALWAYS been about women against men. You can tell yourself it isn't, your ideology justifies you, but it doesn't mean your in any way correct. Read up on politics, you'll like it. You'll find all kinds of justified people, like Adolf Hitler.... Seriously though, I've already posted the no true scotsman-link in the thread.
>>697160892
wut?
>>697160161
They've already done this by telling themselves they're victims. They want to reap the benefits of being a victim and yet they complain when they're cared for as such.
>>697150373
That's what government subsidies are for.
>>697158619
>all feminists contribute to that
It doesnt matter if /all/ of them do it. The vast majority of them do. I've read mainstream femenist literature. It literally says all the worlds problems are the fault of straight white men, and women and minorities are always victims and are not responsible for their choices.
Feminism is shit.
If you don't believe feminist ideology, stop calling yourself a feminist. Egalitarian is a much better term for the views you claim to hold.
>>697153454
lmao, poor men, must suck having to be the patriarchy all the time
>>697161167
>government subsidies
gross
>>697160999
Take the idea of God, it's completely obsolete but the reason it continues to exist is because there are people who keep redefining God to suit their own needs. It just doesn't mean anything in the end. That's where the subjectivity comes from.
>>697160895
>Mad max
>Star Wars force awakens
>Ghostbusters
They've already taken everything that matters, you may as well do the laundry now.
>>697161187
Hey, can you explain to me what patriarchy is and where it exists and why? I've been trying to get an answer but still nothing. It's almost as if feminists don't know what they believe.
>>697160670
Fuck I'm too high to make sense, and I have to walk the dog. It was nice having people actually try and argue and not just fling faeces and cry. I salute anyone that replied to me, I genuinly wish you'd at least try to understand my rambling point here.
>>697161222
oh, i see what you mean. yes it's subjective. i'd posit that most, if not all things are incredibly subjective, even that statement as i'm not sure that anything can ever be known outside of the self and even then the ability to confirm anything outside of that relies on outside bias and preference and opinion which means it is something we cannot directly experience ourselves
>>697160911
>>697160972
Yes there are good and bad sides to everything, I already stated this. Feminism as a whole though is about lifting everyone up, not pushing men down, it is is about making everyone equal. And yes it has "fem" in the name and history has "his" in the name, everyone refers to a group of mixed gender as "you guys" People call humans "man"kind, and yes all of those words put men to the fore front but do the people using them mean to? No. No, they generally don't. So feminism can have the word "fem" in it and still be about equality and the people for it can still support equality.
>>697159096
>there were some separatist factions in the 70s that called themselves feminists, and there are women today who hate men and say they are feminist.
These groups are not the fringe anymore, they are the mainstream. Read some of the most popular femenist literature, blog, media. Take a women's studies class. The man hating misandrists are modern feminism.
>>697161175
Feminism is not shit, I have read feminist literature that supports equality and I know plenty of feminists who advocate for equality. All the modern day feminists that I support are intersectional feminists, and will acknowledge their own privilege and struggles and how everything is connected. But I will look up egalitarianism as well.
>>697159743
>the point of feminism, or what I believe it is, which is: equality
Your belief is wrong. The point of feminism is special privileges for women.
Egalitarians believe in equality. You're either confused or lying about your true intentions if you call yourself a feminist.
>>697150617
cool nips
>>697161372
Same with feminism. I can go to the beach, make a sandcastle with tits, call it a feminist sandcastle and just because of that people will actually believe it empowers women.
>>697161249
>implying mad max and star wars was altered
Those two movies were justified in adding new characters. They just happened to be female and black. It was NEW stories.
>Ghostbusters
was a fucking hack job and only trying to win points with 'diversity', shitting on the end product.
>The Force Awakens was better than all the prequels and the empire strikes back.
>>697161832
fuck off cancer
>>697161338
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzFo150G4V8
yes. here you go, watch this.
The patriarchy is enforced at different levels in different countries and areas through out the world, but most societies are patriarchal. Patriarchy is also responsible for rape culture, and super oppressive sexist beliefs in religion I believe.
>>697161400
No, there are not good and bad sides to everything, get the fuck out of here. Now you're just making shit up.
The MAN refers to human, MAN. History has no connection to his or him. You're pulling shit out of your ass. Feminism has femin in BECAUSE it's about women. You can say it's about lifting people or what ever you want, but of the words you mentioned ONLY feminism is a direct result of the suffix ism and femin. Stop making shit up and pretend like you now a goddamned thing about language.
>>697149897
Someone should remix this
>>697159743
I really disagree. Egalitarianism says EQUALITY. Feminism says EMPOWER WOMEN. If anything, that's how the definition of feminism has evolved.
>>697162317
>>697161832
>All the modern day feminists that I support are intersectional feminists, and will acknowledge their own privilege and struggles and how everything is connected
And that everyone is a victim of the straight white man keeping them down.
You left that part out.
>>697160972
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ_vUkkWfsA
watch this. Feminism is not sexist.
>>697162063
The farce awakens was shit
I only came to this thread for the OP image. Does anyone have links to more of this person's art? For... science and critique, of course.
>>697149821
Tube.getthelube.com
>>697162496
again I will say, watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ_vUkkWfsA
and this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzFo150G4V8
and this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyhHYI-Pkk4
>>697161832
Fuck off.
>The entire argument is over what words mean, yet nobody acknowledges that; each side decides among themselves how to use words, and then uses them that way as if everybody had agreed, and whoever controls more of the press gets their word usage accepted and thereby wins.
>While I'll probably reply later to the rest: yeah! Blame Schopenhauer and his Euristic Rhetorics for this. That ain't a happy accident, that's a planned move, yo. This is how they teach us to debate in Law School.
>>697162636
what do you mean bait? He (or you if this is the same person) asked a question and I'm trying to answer it to the best of my ability....
>>697161972
agreed. what's hilarious is that the left, which often embraces feminism and its ideas, often also embraces that type of nihlistic thought. the difference though is that the type of nihilistic though expressed by those on the left is often the lazy and dunce-inspired fatalist, or, passive nihilism while the nihilism of the right is more often active nihilism which promotes exploration and destruction or at least extreme skepticism. that's too much work for them.
>>697162660
That's not what I said. I said it's focus is on women. To deny that fact is not helping your cause. Everyone sees through that bullshit, except the people that follow your cult.
>>697162947
okay, are you angry with me or something? I was just trying to have a conversation where we try to understand each other.
>>697149821
women are mostly useless creatures. they can do social jobs alright and are better at the empathy thing but other than that they are just inferior to men in every single way. this is why a switch or anything will never take place.
>>697161972
fuck that, that's bullshit corporate feminism. Feminism is about equality. But if some woman feels great about making a sand castle with boobs than more power to her, but it doesn't speak for all women...
Not at all. There Will be only equality on payments, more respect to women and things likes that. They will and are able to do what they want for they life, and so do men.
>>697155576
You're wrong. Those degrees are very involved in dangerous physical labor because the womyn are at the risk of burning themselves on the scalding hot macdonalds chip oil they are handling.
>>697163163
okay ,but why is it bad if it's focus is on women? It's just like blacklivesmatter focusing on black lives, that is the issue, but of course they know all lives matter, In today's world women are more oppressed by the patriarchy, though men are as well, but it makes sense to focus on building women up, however I also think that modern day feminism is trying to include everyone, including men.
hers another good one...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzFo150G4V8
>>697163250
do you really believe that?
>>697163209
Yes, I am angry with you.
>X isn't shit. Some small part of X supports this thing I like that makes no sense when anyone actually tries to think about it concretely. I support some small group within that, so you shouldn't hate X.
>>697149821
I wish.
Being a kept man is my fantasy. I would love having no responsibilities other than taking care of the house and the children and maybe working part time at something that I love even if it brings only a marginal income.
While all this time its the wife who is slaving 10 hours a day and also helps around the house when she comes back.
Unfortunately this is not going to happen due to inherent biological inequality. Women are more desired and thus have more social power. Obviously I'm making a generalization and thus I'm missing a large portion of relationships where things are different, but overall the majority of cases is like that.
>>697149897
That has nothing to do with feminism.
>>697164359
I would bet you any amount that the woman in that video is a self-proclaimed feminist.
>>697155182
Well, that's a twist on history I haven't seen before.
>>697154902
>>697163907
well I'm sorry you are angry with me, that sucks. All I was saying is that we disagree, I believe it is most of the supporters of feminism that support equality and just a small amount that don't, you believe the opposite. We can just agree to disagree.
>>697156457
You sir, are arsemad
>697154373
RETARD, yOU DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'D LIKE. YOU'RE A FAGGOT CLOSET FAGGOT
>>697157915
haha I'm keeping this picture, thanks for the high five
>>697157921
what faction of BLM is demanding their own country?
good video on Black Lives Matter movement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnHjbSJtauU&list=WL&index=70
>>697164687
>equality
Tell me about it. What does that word mean? What would indicate that we have or have not reached it?
>>697149897
That dude deserves man award. He did nothing wrong and the cunt tries to use nothing against him. Fuck that whore.
>>697158372
lawsuit
>>697160161
Is after supposed to be worse? Because its 10 times more sexy
>>697160661
Hmm interesting, Can I ask you why don't you support equality and what do you feel would be the best system for society and everyone in it?
>>697158949
She was at her destination you worthless mongoloid.
>>697161920
oooh that actually is really cool...I almost didn't care if you got this girls permission to post this...
>>697150617
she needs to fucking clean her bathroom mirror
>>697162235
this is a thread about different beliefs on feminism, and I am expressing my beliefs, how is that cancer?
>>697165301
>>697165571
>>697165026
well lots of things, I think we don't have gender, racial or class equality. I would say that everyone deserves to have enough food to eat to not be starving, to be respected and treated as a human being, to not be in fear of getting raped or harassed. As far as laws, I think we need equal pay, and the way to do that is to be transparent about how much people are making post everyones salaries, also we need paid family leave, people need to stop victim blaming people who were raped (men and women) The whole (tits or gtfo out rule, that is hurtful and sexist) it implys that women are of no merit unless you want to fuck them (in real life). As far as racial equality, we need to stop incarcerated in black men and people of color at larger rates, as far as fininancial inequality, there are literally people who can't afford food and then there are people making billions of dollars a year, and the middle class are the ones getting screwed on their taxes. And all of this is just this country, things are bad an unequal in many ways around the world, some even worse than the U.S.of A. I could go on, but this thread might get deleted by the time I'm done.
>>697155625
What bullshit SJW course taught you that garbage?
>>697166008
>I think we don't have gender, racial or class equality.
Wrong. When is it legal to discriminate against someone's class, race, or gender? And by that I mean where is it legal to deny someone a job opportunity, housing, or constitutional rights on the basis of class, race, or gender?
>I think we need equal pay
This already exists. Obama even passed the "Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act" for exactly this and the regressive left is still bitching about it.
>The whole (tits or gtfo out rule, that is hurtful and sexist) it implys that women are of no merit unless you want to fuck them (in real life).
This is not what that rule means. It means that women on the internet should not be given special attention because "hurr durr I have a vagina"
>As far as racial equality, we need to stop incarcerated in black men and people of color at larger rates
Then black people should stop committing so many crimes. This isn't an issue of racism.
>>697166008
tits or gtfo
>>697158949
she was being an asshole she was at her destination
>>697166318
no course man, just life.
>>697151171
This, they don't want to work if they can get away with not doing anything for being women
>>697157303
liar. feminists define porn as the exploitation of women, and as definitively anti-feminist.
>>697166902
Plus Uber drivers are independent contractors, meaning they own their car and they have the right to kick anyone out at their pleasure.
>>697167307
dont feed the troll
>>697166008
okay well if you're only talking about legal equality then yes, things have gotten better somewhat in this country, but not in a lot of other countries, and it's still not perfect legally here and there is still a lot of social inequality and still legal inequality in some cases. For instance in rape cases, a lot of times rape kits aren't tested until years later and they could have helped convict the rapist. People of color do not commit more crimes, they are unfairly charged for more crimes by a racist system. However the cops are poorly trained and they fuck with anyone who isn't rich.
>>697166008
First, you're obviously not from around here. "Tits of gtfo" is meant to deter people from posting certain things. The point is to get people to "start fresh" and not associate further posts from the old one because the old one made some sort of social error, like attention whoring.
Second, I worked my ass off for eight years to get where I am, and many of my colleagues did not. I do work they are literally incapable of doing without years of further study, and my job is far more stressful than theirs. In what world do we deserve equal pay?
Third, the rate of malnutrition in the USA is negligibly low, and that's true across gender, race, and income boundaries. If you try really hard, you'll find a homeless person that's malnourished if you're wandering around a dense city looking.
Fourth, the middle class isn't going to be any better off with the rich paying more taxes, and neither are lower classes. The government isn't short of money to support their programs, and a lack of funds doesn't seem to stop it from pushing through programs it thinks are worthwhile.
And "fear of getting raped or harassed" has nothing to do with equality. We should be lowering that fear across the board regardless of sex, race, age, income, or whatever else.
I'm expecting an answer for the "income equality" point. I don't care if you respond to the others.
>>697155384
The creators didn't just collectively decide to do it, they were urged to
>>697167442
this pretty much
>>697166641
haha are you telling me tits or gtfo or is just this the go to screen shot to explain what it is?
>>697167442
>People of color do not commit more crimes
They commit more violent crimes. Police are more likely to prosecute violent crimes, hence why people of color are charged for more crimes.
>>697167307
that was actually more 2nd wave feminists in the 70s and 80s that were against porn, modern day feminists are more accepting of porn. They just acknowledge that some porn is sexist, but they are more sex positive about this issue, and other things, from my experience. And I really don't care if you believe me, but I am a feminist who also enjoys porn.
>>697167307
Feminists are fine with the kind of porn and erotica they personally enjoy, and they're opposed to all other kinds.
>>697149897
>but youre not to yell at me
>you dont have the right to be mad at me
>you have no right to scream at me
>and i am asking you in a very educated manner
>>697167769
I've never heard of any statistics stating that people of color commit more violent crimes, and I don't really think that's the case. But even so, the fact that people of color are twice as more likely to be killed by the police (I'm not saying more black people are killed, just that they are more likely) and that they are charged and over sentenced for small crimes disproportionately are some of the problems with our police system, and how it perpetuates inequality.
>>697168156
>I've never heard of any statistics stating that people of color commit more violent crimes, and I don't really think that's the case.
People of colour are more likely to be in gangs like the crips and bloods and mexican gangs and whatnot, and those gangs often have shootouts and shit
>>697168044
Acknowledging that something has sexist qualities is not the same as opposing it, or judging it. I don't necessarily oppose or think things should be stopped that I disagree with, I mean free speech, as long as it's between consensual adults and it's not seriously harming anyone, I'm not trying to stop anyone.
>>697157377
And she better keep doing that, else I'm divorcing and keeping half her wage for the next 20 years.
>>697149821
Id rather get high af & wash my underwear than work on a car that shes gonna fuck up next week.
>>697168354
okay but what about war crimes, are those not violent, white people commit war crimes all the time? Or random mass shooters, there's a lot of white people doing that. I'm not saying people of color aren't violent, everyone is violent but I don't think one race is over any other.
>>697162063
>The Force Awakens was better than anything
yeah, I slept well. Nothing happened.
You feminists are bullies :'(
Men will never get the sexism they face solved, if you refuse to let us call it sexism :(
You girls got everything.
Now let us Boys, at least have the right, to call the sexism we face, sexism.
>>697168156
Have you even bothered looking?
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43
The percentages for blacks are skewed too low because of the inclusion of drinking crimes. Even with those numbers, blacks are responsible for 3x as many violent crimes as their demographics suggest they should be.
>>697168639
call it sexism, fine with me, just don't say it's worse than the sexism we face
>>697168620
Of course they kill people but I'm pretty sure it doesn't count when they're working for the government
>>697168736
>just don't ever say it matters
>>697168736
Bullshit.
You fucking bullies.
I wish i could be protected.
I wish i could have someone who fucking cares about my problems.
You don't give a shit about me.
I'd give you full equality, but you always want to make this a "we had it worse" thing.
Being a man has always been terrible. And i wish i was a girl.
>>697168708
right but where do we get these statistics? From the police...and the FBI? Right?
>>697149821
No.
>>697168961
No shit, Sherlock. We get crime statistics from the people that investigate crime.
>>697168736
>call it sexism, fine with me, just don't say it's more important than the next privilege we want the patriarchy to give us because waaah I have a vagina
>>697168927
Really why? Being a girl sucks in so many ways. I mean we're cool too, don't get me wrong, but honestly I'm just trying to understand where you are coming from. And that's great that you'd give women full equality, I want full equality for everyone too!
>>697168961
I don't know what your point is. The FBI is racist so they're going to blame blacks for more crimes? Seriously?
>>697160562
you cant say you are something because you claim to be it. its what you do that defines you and this goes for everything even feminism. if the majority of the people that talk for feminism is man haters, then feminism is a man hating organisation. if the majority of the KKK was not racist, the KKK would not be a racist organisation and so on.
Feminism is a man hating organisation.
>>697169187
The Police force is systematically racist yes.
>>697150140
It starts in elementary school
>>697169265
I think we're done here. You're going to discount anything anyone here says on the basis that someone is racist or sexist or ageist or whatever the fuck else.
>>697169229
But that is not the majority, or at least that's not the majority of feminists I see and come across, in fact it's actually the exact opposite, most feminists I know want to include men in equality.
>>697169419
okay, no I'm not, but if you wanna be done talking then sure we can be done.
>>697169265
One last note before I really leave. You pretend to want to treat people like individuals rather than as some aggregate to be stereotyped, yet you don't think twice about clumping all of the police into one group. FYI, they're human beings, and they're individuals. Fuck you, and kindly fuck off.
>>697169182
>Being a girl sucks in so many ways
You can do daily shit (say hello, walk on the street, sit on a bench) and not get called a creep or harassed by the police.