Basically gender and sex are different
There's two sexes, but many mental genders
Prove me wrong
>>697119621
Mental Disorders that have been treated with drugs that also have been used to treat schizophrenia.
>>697120162
How is it a mental disorder?
>>697120323
Squirtle, Squirtle, faggot.
>>697119621
I don't give a rat's ass about what degenerates do to themselves or among each other. But leave society alone.
>>697119621
I don't really care what you are or call yourself as long as you help people
>>697120666
/satanicthread
>>697120666
Look I get that you're satan and all but someone who identifies as a third gender isn't a degenerate
>>697120666
>goes back to fapping thinking about his mom.
>>697119621
if you think your sex shouldn't define your personality, you're right! act how you want. but don't make up new categories to define how you feel and pretend they're legit. pyrofoxes are actually homo sapiens of one of two sexes
>>697120735
this.
most of them want others to help and pander to them. But ask them the opposite, and there they go running.
>>697120861
ha ha ha nope.
doubt you can have prostate cancer if your biological sex is female (XX chromosomes).
>>697119621
>Prove me wrong
Why?
>>697119621
What is a gender, in your own words?
Are you a man?
[y/n]
Are you a woman?
[y/n]
If both no
Are you a human?
[y/n]
If yes, repeat questions 1 and 2
If no, you're obviously a fucking liar or an attack helicopter because nothing else has the mental capability to recognize this kind of thing.
Are you an attack helicopter?
[y/n]
If yes, continue fighting the fight.
If no, you're obviously a fucking human.
I just looked it up on google and I'm sorry to say that gender and sex mean the same exact thing. "Mental gender" is just the autistic community trying to spare itself from gene purification by attempting to legitimize their condition.
>>697119621
You can't be proven wrong as gender is a sociological concept. You're right.
>>697119621
This is true.
One is a term of biology, the other one of psychology. (though technically, there are about 6 sexes, just two that are considered genetically neutral).
Two very different integral parts of who someone is.
Frankly, the only mental disorder is the people who are completely unrelated to those this affects who obsess over where they prefer to put various available genitals.
>>697120162
I thought all you needed was a Bible to fix them, LOL
No. It's not a mental disorder. Homophobia is a mental disorder.
when you define 'gender' as whatever weird combination of masculine/feminine (or lack thereof) that you're feeling at any given moment then of course there's going to be an infinite number of 'genders'.
might as well ask how many different types of temperature there are.
You can be whatever you want in your mind
But dont think your entitled to anything based on that thought
Its just a mental thing
Nothing that can be proved physically
>>697120531
Just with a functioning vagina and milky tittys?
KYS
>>697120363
if it's pregnant, it was most certainly born a woman, and still is one, no matter how delusional it has become and might think otherwise. Seriously, have sex with whoever you want, go ahead and mutilate your genitals if you want, but that doesn't make you something other than what you are.
>>697119621
kys faggot
>>697119621
sex is a synonym of gender.
look up gender. it will say "synonyms: sex"
faggots arent valid
>>697121472
Nope
Gender and sex are the same thing
If you want to challenge gender roles or whatever then fine but you must accept that there are actions that are masculine and actions that are feminine. Many things we do fall into one role or another. There are actions that gender does not play into but there aren't any actions that it does play into that are gender neutral or non-binary.
If you want to be a third gender, then tell me your essential third role in reproduction, without which it is impossible to have a child. What's that? You can't? Okay, well then there must be only two genders.
I do not have gender and sex confused. You have reality and fantasy confused. It is absolutely, irrevocably as simple as what sex you are. That is your gender. Romantic preference, personality traits, and shit like that, does not play into your gender, and you do not get to say what gender you are because it was determined in the womb.
Goodbye.
>>697122257
>essential third role in reproduction
i'm the white husband
>>697122469
Kek'd but shut the fuck up Carl
>>697119621
It's not my job to prove you wrong.
That's the thing about mental disorders - no matter how much factual evidence I provide or how logical of an argument I build, it bounces right off you because you're not mentally stable.
And even though that's the case, let's say I just want to upset you: Why? Why should I care about upsetting a handicrapped tranny? What's in it for me? Entertainment? Nah. I'm not interested in watching some fucked up cripple spit as they scream about privilege or some shit.
I'll just cut the fucker out of my life and social interactions like a diseased limb, and watch everyone they know do the same until they find their way into social groups with like-minded people who validate each other's mental handicaps. Eventually they'll leave the normal people alone.
I'm all for trans people and shit, but keep it within the realms of reality.
>Man who identifies as woman and gets operation
That's fine
>Woman who identifies as man and gets operation
That's cool
>Man or woman who identifies as a Southern Flying Squirrel
Go fuck yourself
>>697121269
More like:
Were you born with one X chromosome or two?
[1/2]
Do you sexually desire penises/vaginas/both?
[P/V/PV]
Are you mentally attracted to feminine traits, masculine traitsm androgynous traits or any/all?
[M/F/MF/A/No preference]
Would you consider your composition (phenotypical appearance) masculine/feminine/androgynous?
[M/F/A]
Would you consider your primary behavior/reaction set masculine/feminine/neither?
[M/F/A]
See how it works? Only ONE set (two if taking hormone replacement drugs) is determined by physiological/genetic makeup.
IF you disagree, how do you accomodate the fact that there are, for example, gay cis males who are attracted to thin, feminine twinks and there are others who are attracted to thick, masculine bears/athletic types? Are there alternate terms for the chemical/mental basis of these attractions? If so, what are they, if you deny that they are gender?
>>697122514
what the fuck is miaowing?
>>697121777
TRIPS OF TRUTH.
>>697122778
I've got two words to sum up pretty much everything for you: Personal preference.
>>697120666
Thats all I want Mr. SatanTrips. Cut of you dick in whatever shady clinic you want but dont turn around and demand respect and shit, trying to make the fucking world cater to you and your sick delusion.
>>697122778
sexual preference is correlated with but not dependent on biological sex. how does a tumblrfag not know this?
This thread is fucking pointless. Either Sage or spidey.
>>697122514
>Averse to water
Aka her excuse for smelling like shit cause she doesn't shower/bathe.
I bet that cat takes a human dick real good though.
>>697122970
On the surface this is true. But WHY are there personal preferences? Science likes definites and categorization (hence psychological gender states). That's what they fucking ARE. Why are you so against the use of the term?
Shouldn't gay people, by the old defintion, only desire masculine traits? If they like male "things", what's the point in being sexually attracted to effeminate, skinny twinks when they could just have a girl to match the status quo?
Attraction, sexual desire and the chemical compositions responsible for them are much more COMPLEX than most people and ESPECIALLY retarded homophobes like >>697120162 are able to comprehend.
It's not our job to prove your erroneous ideas wrong. It's your job to try and convince sane, normal people that you are correct.
Pro tip, you're not.
>>697121804
I like this, still be using in the future
Here we go with this shit again
>>697123129
Nigger, I've been here since 2006 and I've only ever been on Tumblr when searching for pics hyperlinked to it.
As far as all the "settings" are concerned, I'm fairly vanilla as a masculine male cis-gendered bisexual. I'm just asking the questions because I have a scientifically/logically inclined mind.
>>697123450
Touche', bitch.
>>697123450
was with you until the last panel. those are terrorists
>>697122778
Preference dictates sexuality. Trans is a form of retardation
>>697122778
Are you biologically a man?
[y/n]
Are you mentally a man?
[y/n]
If yes to both, you're a man
If no to both, you're a woman
If no to one and yes to two, you're ftm
If yes to one and no to two, you're mtf
Simple as that.
Agender isn't a real thing a human person can accomplish.
Genderfluid is legitimately retarded, especially because a lot of people get very pissy when you don't know what gender they are every 5 minutes.
>hey Steve
>I TOLD YOU I'M STEPHANIE
>sorry Stephanie
>Tom what the fuck, I'm Steve
Also being more than one gender also isn't a thing that exists.
It's people coming up with excuses so they can play the victim card and get all the internet attentions.
>>697123757
shut up tj
>>697123852
If the answer isnt the same then you need to be admitted to a psych ward, hopefully you'll get the shock therapy you need
>>697123852
FTM and MTF are transexual terms and imply chemical or surgical reassignment. It has little to do with mental/psychological gender.
I'm honestly not sure what to categorize the concept of gender fluidity under. I think it's just bisexuals who are having trouble coming to grips with what they are and are not attracted to (since bisexuality does actually oscillate between stronger desire for masculine and stronger desire for feminine...not sure really.)
>>697119621
The brain is designed to develop either male or female traits depending on the sex, anything else is a natural aberration and must be fixed to match the correct traits.
Brains are designed to translate the information gathered by the senses, If you feel something that isn't real you are most likely mentally ill like in the case of alucinations, same happens with transexuals.
Any other argument isn't backed by empirical evidence and must be discarded as the lie it is.
A mind disorder shouldn't be celebrated neither accepted, it must be treated, because it is an illnes and also a weak spot in the great chain of scientifical and cultural progress.
>>697123911
KEK not him but I have a lot of the same ideas about things he does.
>>697122767
>Being this insensitive to squirrelkin
Triggered
>>697124300
>Brain
>designed
Fuck off, nigger. Adults are talking here.
>>697119621
>>697124202
I mean I'm okay with the answers not matching, it's when the answers are
>Yes
>No
>Other
That it just gets flat out retarded
>>697124293
>little to do with mental/psychological gender
Motherfucker why do you think people get it done?
It has everything to do with it.
>>697124548
As a general rule of thumb, anything that retarded faggot Garrison says, the opposite is true. Same for A Wyatt Mann. Both are completely moronic and antithetical to logic and reason.
Easy, gender is a bullshit excuse to feel special and unique.
All genders outside of male/female are made up and a result of delusions and mental illness that people refuse to address. Libtards are trying to make up for the times where people viewed homosexuality as a mental illness, and now they view all these genders, and all trans people as "normal and well" people. Which is incorrect, and if this was any other instance of someone viewing themselves as something that wasn't classified as a gender or affiliated with sex, they would be locked up and put on heavy meds for having a dangerous and untame mind
But hey, that's the simple answer, and trannies, along with the 50+ genders will be defended as the correct frame of mind and anyone who had these warped views of who they are normal and just struggling to feel like who they think they truly are.
We need a leader who will address this mental illness issue that is becoming more rampant and urge these sick people to seek help.
>>697123852
>Genderfluid is legitimately retarded, especially because a lot of people get very pissy when you don't know what gender they are every 5 minutes
That is something that I've never understood. How can you come up with these entirely new categories on your own, and somehow become upset because a total stranger doesn't know them?
>>697122514
>>697124547
>Implying humans didn't advance enough in the past to redesign their own brains to create a perfect society before the jews nuked everyone and we had to start all over again.
You are so naive
>>697124487
it's fucking sad that i can no longer tell the difference between trolls and actual liberal logic.
>>697124900
>muh pronouns
>everyone gotta know muh pronouns
>otherwise they're transphobic
It's all about causing a scene and being special.
>>697125053
>>697124742
but this comic is funny
>>697119621
Having a different "gender identity" isone of two things. 1. a mental disease 2. Attention seeking
>>697122514
Of course she's a weeb. Gross.
>>697119621
>im right because i say im right
>>697119621
>remembering the names of one of the most memorable starters in pokemon is hundreds
>>697125056
Trolls either improved or liberals got worse.
>Pro tip: liberals got worse
>>697125056
Sad, yes, but entertaining as well.
>>697125026
This is the stupidest thing I have read this year.
>>697122257
/thread
>>697124548
i wonder if the artist of this picture realizes that there are a lot of cases where someone feels they have gender identity disorder but as they grow older it effects them less and goes away
>>697119621
sex is short for sexual intercourse
gender is whether you are male of female
theres nothing else
>>697125346
>>697125269
>>697120531
>"I wasn't born a human male"
>"I am a toaster"
>"This is a toaster's body"
>"Toasters come in all kinds of bodies"
Girl and boy defined by gender, sure.
If you are born as a sexual female, then you are born a sexual female, INDISPUTABLE. Female sex organs and XX Chromosome, no argument there.
If that retard wanted to say " I was born in a girl's body but want to be a boy", then okay. But get it right. Just because you say it, doesn't make it true.
>>697125026
The fuck are you on?
Can I have a translation from Retardese to Collegiate English, please?
>>697125224
The artist is just mad that no one cares about their made up words and not pandering to a mental illness.
They don't understand what pokemon is fun, talking to a tranny with 50 fucking rules of interaction and very complicated rules of engagement with said tranny and having to memorize these things so they don't get triggered isn't fun.
>>697125056
you're just as confused as sjw's as to what liberalism actually is. it's not keeping up with all the latest pretend psychology gibberish to avoid hurting people's feelings
>>697125346
Pfft. whatever, hitler always finds a way into your heart, sooner or latter you will wake up and see the world as it is. Hail comrade
>>697122257
Except this is incredibly shallow and naive and doesn't address any of the complex chemicals such as hormone levels, neurotransmitters, etc. that actually directly govern the gender/sexual attractions.
>>697120861
So other people don't know about their own hormones or chromosomes but some delusional kid with mental illness knows her own? Please.
>>697121031
Oh, but that's where you are wrong! Boys and girls can get prostate cancer. Biological sex, what is that? Sure I have XX chromosomes and was born with a vulva and vagina but I'm just not destined to have prostate cancer. I don't have cervical cancer but does that mean I'm not a woman? My girlfriend who has XY chromosomes and a penis and testicles has prostate cancer but she's a girl, silly! Your argument is invalid! xD (sarcastically).
>>697126041
>>697126041
I tend to see it as far more likely that someone who is transgendered wanting to understand more about him/herself would be more inclined to actually research what goes into it than some naive prick who just wants to claim he/she has a mental disorder with zero evidence to support it.
That's just one man's educated guess though.
>>697126041
>>697126190
>>697126041
>my girlfriend
>penis and testicles
>girl
>penis
Sorry to tell you champ, that's a man. You've been fucking a man.
>>697126041
>>697126190
>>697126253
>>697119621
Well, i'll see you in hell piece of shit
There's precisely one. One gender. One sex.
>>697125875
that is the weakest way of saying "b-but muh pronouns"
>>697125875
>complex chemicals such as hormone levels
>neurotransmitters
>etc
>I actually don't know shit about biology, chemistry, or biochemistry so I'm gonna just pull words out of my ass to sound like I know what I'm talking about because it usually works when I talk about this stuff with my friends in real life
>>697121758
kek'd
If you are a man and just really wanna be a woman, okay sure (or vice versa). But this shit, where it's an issue everywhere IT goes, where the rules are bent and the little faggot life revolves around having a peepee instead of a vajayjay, that's where it because a fucking issue and more than just someone trying to be happy and live their life.
It's like being gay and just liking dudes for whatever reason. But having a gay agenda or being gay for the sake of being an outcast or daddy issues or something, that needs to stop.
>>697119621
have fun being your tumblr gender faggot. Just don't be surprised when the government arrests you for lying on your tax forms by putting that you're "female" when you really have a penis.
>>697125547
see
>>697125631
bonus points if you get triggered
>>697126364
Oh I'm sorry, did you have a counterargument to post against my assertion? Because I'm calling your retarded bluff. I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about here, faggot.
What do YOU think governs attraction/sexual desire and how? I mean, CLEARLY you know about neurotransmitter chemicals and what, for example the pituitary sex hormones do in the body, right?
Enlighten us, motherfucker.
>>697126242
The diference between humans and "those" is when a kid want's to know if he's actually saiyan and discovers he is just human he doesn't become a delusional faggot who attaches a tail and claims being one... except for those guys at the who make cosplay, they do it cause it's fun to pretend being an all powerfull retard who looks like a carrot
>>697123845
As if lots of people don't suck as grammar and spelling. But yeah, if you're trying to make a point, don't look like an idiot while doing it.
>>697126302
She's correct if referring to gender. She's incorrect/mistaken if referring to sex.
>>697126356
Cute try, kiddo. Pronouns don't have shit to do with the actual biology/psychology/neurology of this discussion and mine are the standard ones. Please come up with an argument or just shut your naive noisehole.
>>697119621
>itt retards that don't understand that identifying with a gender's stereotypes doesn't make you that gender
See a therapist instead of glorifying a mental illness
>>697126190
ANGERY
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>>697125407
I thought that was the point, that the little girl only went through a phase.
>>697122514
>>697126708
lol you're so mad it's delicious. I'm getting my Master's Degree in pharmacology, nigger. But I'd rather shitpost than actually put forth real effort to argue with you because you seem like a pretentious faggot.
>Oh I'm sorry
Hahahaha oh you
>>697126802
Are you implying that non-cisgendered persons simply can't tell the difference between reality and make-believe? That's extremely shortsighted and I would assert you can't find a single datapoint or academically-supported fact to back you up.
>>697126915
i can literally say the same thing to you. i'm not even fucking around
>>697125955
Good parody. But seriously, what's wrong with just, "Hey, I'm Greg". We don't need life stories. WHo the fuck cares about someone's pronouns or sexual orientation?
>LGBTQ+ Community: "We hate labels and it doesn't matter what you are"
>LGBTQ+ Commuinty: "But we are this-sexual or that-sexual and use these pronouns!"
>>697122514
I-is it bestiality and/or bad to say I'd probably put my dick in it?
More than once?
Probably on a regular basis?
She's not bad looking, just mentally fucked.
>>697122514
Why is this even worthy of a platform? Why are people giving this attention as if it's a legitimate news story? Is this really what sells? Is this what people find fascinating and worthy of reading about?
There's a guy in my hometown with fetal alcohol syndrome who dresses up like Spongebob and walks around the street "freestyle" rapping nonsense through a megaohone - no one is writing articles about him. That's the same level as this shit.
>>697126692
saved for truth
>>697126283
Um, that's why there was "sarcastically" at the end.
>>697127128
No, i'm implying urine is a good source of sugar. Of course i'm saying transgenders are delusional. Are you retarded? cause you answer like one.
>>697127305
I wouldn't mind seeing a day in his life
>>697119621
Hitler was right. People with mental handicaps like this are of no use to society and must be eliminated. We must save the human race from itself.
>>697119621
>There's two sexes but many mental illnesses
Fixed that for you no need to thank me
>>697127401
Assumed the (Sarcastically) applied to the "XD"
>>697127061
>Master's Degree in pharmacology
Bullshit.
>I'd rather shitpost
Nice copout. I accept your admission of defeat with humility.
>real effort to argue
Then why'd you try calling me out in the first place?
>pretentious faggot
Ah yes, the old "he uses collegiate English in his standard lexicon so he's trying to sound smart" deflection. I get that a lot, but this is actually how I talk and type (INTP might have something to do with it). Regardless, it doesn't make you have any more valid of a point or my assertions any less substantiated.
Frankly, if you truly were going for a Master's in anything, you'd most likely welcome a scholarly discussion of subject matter relating to your field and have less ire for proper English than you do.
>>697127305
To make her an international laughing stock while pretending to cater to her trans species strife and sensitives. Even if the reporter wasn't doing it for jest, she is an international joke now.
>>697119621
But OP you are not wrong. There are only two genders. Seriously though if you have a child who is born with both male and female genitalia then you are a degenerate and both you and your child deserve to be killed.
>>697127168
Weak troll is weak. No biscuit for you!
>>697127448
He has a facebook page with like 2,000 followers - of course, someone unaffiliated with him made it. I'm not sure if he has the mental capacity to do that himself. I think he lives in a group home off government benefits.
sad thing is , most people wouldnt hate you trans if it wasnt for the why so many of you act..
its like vegans, no one cares what you eat just shut the fuck up about it and stop trying to jam it down our throats.
but that is the issue, it's done for attention
>>697127966
why= way*
>>697127857
whatever, i'll just go back to megaman x7 (yes, i unironically enjoy the game. how have my standards fallen so low?)
>>697127448
>>697127917
Just found this video with him in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y61io2r_guM
>>697127966
Dubs don't lie
>>697119621
>Prove me wrong
Either you have a penis or you do not.
/thread
>>697128093
X7 was alright. Too much of that faggot Axl though.
>>697128210
/thread
>>697128231
how dare you insult my senpai
>>697128210
This is true. It doesn't explain ANYTHING in regards to gender/attraction or sex hormones though. It's just a blank, binary statement.
"You either have two eyes or you do not."
"You either have one gastrointestinal tract or you do not."
"The oven is either hot or it is not".
Not a whole lot of information being conveyed here.
im going to bed, my advice... stop being weird, its not worth it in the long run.
>>697128563
http://www.anon-curb.com/swfs/Cute_loli_riding_hard_pole.swf
>>697119621
I don't have to prove shit.
I have made no assertions except that I don't have to prove shit.
>>697124548
>Time to sign up for the draft, mister!
Its almost as if the artist is implying that this is a bad thing. As if you should be able to adopt only some aspects of the life you want, but only the most convinient ones. If you want true equality and fair treatment then get ready for the full experience, not just the parts you yourself want. Still, i'm glad this story had a happy ending.
>>697125026
Who is pic related?
>>697119621
I like this meme xD I hope it doesn't go away like le maymay troubles snickering guy or always without friends water eyes man.
>>697119621
There's one reality that each of us perceives, but there is objectively many realities.
In one of those realities, I've already wasted my time by proving you wrong, so I don't have to do it here.
Prove me wrong.
>697129904
I've already wasted my time by proving you wrong in another reality, so I don't have to do it here.
Prove me wrong.
>>697129959
A "man" is a male with a penis.
A "woman" is a female with a vagina.
There is no such thing as more than two genders. Anyone who says otherwise is stupid.
>>697119621
As incredible as it may be to believe, you're actually not that far from the truth. What you really mean is not "mental genders" but real "mental self image"
There are over 7 billion mental self images in the world. The only reason people bring gender into it at all is because they mistakenly place too great an importance on gender to determine your path in life.
You can do anything you can achieve, physically, and while you may have more trouble doing some things based on your sex, you can more or less do anything you are mentally capable of.
It's not that multiple genders exist, but that many people who are a certain gender do not feel like the typical gender image applies to their own feelings.
This means something like, for example, saying "girls don't enjoy violence in movies". I have several sisters, and one of them is a huge tomboy who likes biking and playing videogames with me. This doesn't really mean she is any less a girl, she's just not quite fitting the traditional stereotype.
Basically the whole multiple genders thing is bullshit though because it doesn't matter what the fuck you call yourself, you are just you.
Your body is another thing of course, but you're just a mass of electrons inhabiting a mass of grey cells that pilots a mech made of flesh and bones. And maybe that mech has a dick or a vagina, and you'd be retarded to say it doesn't.
That doesn't reflect who YOU are, it's just your body, which you happen to be attached to.
You're really just an alien made of electrons piloting a humans body.
>>697129904
>>697130424
I also didn't know how to quote posts in the same reality where I came to the realization that I've already wasted my time by proving you wrong, so I don't have to do it here.
Prove me wrong.
>>697129904
>>697130424
I've already wasted my time proving both of you wrong and proceeding to have homosexual sex with the two of you on my galactic suite in Mars.
Prove me wrong.
>>697119621
Let's get something straight first. 1) It's your job it prove that there are multiple genders. 2) You cannot redefine words to do so, if you do then the opposition gets too. 3) You feelings aren't facts, your opinions aren't facts. If you wish use them as such, the opposition gets too.
Great now that we have this all cleared up, start us off OP.
>>697130697
You're on point. But don't waste your time posting it here. /b is Internet cancer
>>697130733
I've already wasted my time proving both of you wrong and while proceeding to have homosexual sex with me in your galactic suite in Mars, I was identifying as a female so you had heterosexual sex which is also rape.
Prove me wrong.
>>697130439
So basically every biologist, psychologist, neurologist, psychiatrist, and several other adjacent fields or study are stupid compared to little ol' you all because you said so?
Fuck off, kiddo. You have nowhere near the intellectual capacity necessary to be granted a vote in this issue.
>>697130698
I sexually identify as a person who lives in a world where humans are sexually dimorphic, the biological results of which lead to two distinct genders for nearly everyone (except people with body dysmorphic disorders who are either psychologically or biologically damaged in some way, yet are not a new, third gender). That is my gender and my sexual orientation.
My pronouns are "he", "him", and "sane".
Stop denying the reality of my gender, shitlord. You implying that my gender and sexual orientation don't exist is extremely triggering.
Prove that my gender and sexual orientation don't exist.
>>697131126
Its hopeless anon, you're wrong and you know it. If anything, at best, its all a mental disorder for those that identify as something they're not.
>>697131126
>basically every biologist ... neurologist
[citation needed]
>>697131126
>basically every biologist, psychologist, neurologist, psychiatrist, and several other adjacent fields of study
Believe there are more than two genders? Citation please.
>>697130923
It's a good thing that I don't believe in genders so whatever a 'she' is can't bother me.
>>697124547
Not him but natural design
You probably believe in god too
Gender is a social construct.
Biological sexual organs are not.
>>697130923
http://i.4cdn.org/b/1469864282369.png
thisll have to do
>>697131328
>sane
Psh... More like super sane.
>>697131569
This. Don't even need to cite all of them. I just want to see one example of each with decent qualifications that believes in that bullshit. They also need to be respected in their field of study, because believe it or not, people use unrespected scientists to justify things far more stupid (like the claim that a creationist invented the MRI. He was the least contributing member of a team that invented it, and he was pretty much cut out of the team because his beliefs conflicted too strongly with the real science they were doing.
>>697131126
>implying there are studies proving multiple genders
Produce them. Show us the irrefutable facts. We wouldn't be able to deny them.
>>697132091
The individuals who made it are ultimately irrelevant. The studies and methodology behind the studies should be the main concern.
>>697119621
I deal with idiots like this all day at work I don't need this mental disorder bull shit on B just keep your fucking mouth shut you SNF
>>697125269
Thank you good sir or ma'am.
>>697121669
False.
It's a documented mental disorder to ignore reality and substitute tour own.
Feel free to pretend youre a toaster or a fox or whatever. But don't claim you actually are one
>>697131126
>And suddenly the SJW realized that his attempt at sounding smart and intellectual backfired horrendously when other anons asked him to provide facts he knows don't exist. All he can do now is hope they forget about him and the thread 404s
I say we abandon all this gender/sex division bullshit and replace it with one simple true or false quality: Has it ever had a penis?
So you can be either HAP (has/had a penis)
or NHAP (never had a penis).
It's the only thing anyone should care about and there's nothing subjective about it
>>697131126
you have to be at 18 and over to post on this site
>>697132402
I agree with this. So I don't need a highly respected professional in each of these fields to agree with this to take it seriously.
I would also take a citation of a thorough research study with solid methodology in each of these fields as evidence that these fields are proving such a thing to be true.
Mind you, however, that
>>697131126 did not say that there was robust data in support of these claims in each field. Xir said, "So basically every biologist, psychologist, neurologist, psychiatrist, and several other adjacent fields..."
If this is true, and they know this to be true, it should be relatively easy to cite one major, respected name in each of these fields who agree with them, yes?
>>697123144
>>697119621
I will not cater to your mental disorder.
I don't care if this offends you or not.
>>697132954
My Nigga
>>697125269
Saved.
>>697122514
Norfag here
NRK, Norwegian national broadcasting was the first media company in norway. they do everything from news in radio and television to documentaries and reports, to humor.
"Verdens Rikeste Land" the series which this report is a part of; means "The worlds richest country". they are a couple of norwegians doing the show, trying to make light of new and interesting things.
As for "Nano" she seems to be part of the 'Emo' scene. i dont know how that works in other countries but in norway if you are kind of an outside teen you can easily be accepted into an Emo group of friends, who are usually Very open and accepting, and base their friendships on being outcasts or different than others. This often creates an atmosphere of extreme acceptance, and you see things like the girl who feels she's a cat or whatever.
Lol. I would like to ask her what species of cat she is though haha
Also, Heres the video with english Subs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWeBunPiIzo&feature=youtu.be
>>697124487
Pokemon have some relevancy to the real world. You have an imagination but don't work to cause its material existence. Identity is a lie, it is how you rationalize your behavior(the actual you)
>>697132832
Absolutely.
>>697120323
How is it not?
>>697132954
I don't consider you intelletually on par with a human being and thus you are denied any respect or consideration of worth from me. I don't care if this offends you or not, as the offenses of lower beings do not concern me.
>>697133671
In this case it's your job to prove it's a mental disorder.
>>697132809
A working knowledge of the English language is appreciated too, retard.
And for the record, I'm 30.
>>697132627
>reality
Except you have no idea what you're talking about.
If you really think genderfluid is a thing, then unironically kys
>>697133893
>the offenses of lower beings do not concern me.
Kek. You're the one who probably believes there are actually more than two genders
>>69712698
it kinda looks like they made the little girl look sad,
a little tiny bit
>>697133893
And guess what? You are perfectly free to do so. Honestly! You can think that all you want and no will stop you because they don't need to change you to be happy, they don't need to force you to do anything to be satisfied with themselves. That's SJWs.
>>697133967
It's abnormal behaviour that leads to decreased ability to function in the society.
I think ill just use female pronouns while identifying as male. That way even the sjws get confused.
i still don't get why people still think that gender identity disorder is not a mental disorder... and yet body dysmorphic disorder is
While sex and gender are indeed two different things, both are heavily based on biology.
You sex is determined by your physical traits and appearance such as body and bone structure, voice, hormones and most importantly, your sex chromosomes.
Gender is your mental identity towards a gender controlled by your brain structure and wiring which makes you think and feel more masculine or feminine.
In very rare cases, it's possible those two don't align with each other, that's what is commonly referred to as gender dysphoria which is the leading cause of transsexuals.
Gender fluidity, trigender and all the other shit tumblr came up with is obviously absolute bullshit since there have been no documented cases of a human brain ever changing it's wiring or structure overnight. Neither sex nor gender are social constructs. Gender roles and social aspects of genders came after people taking different roles in society depending on their skills and understanding of the world.
>>697134804
Body dysmorphia is a hallucinatory state - your brain is literally misfiring neurons and you are not in a stable mental state. It has a physiological basis in how your mind is working.
I know this, because I suffer from it; when I look in the mirror I literally cannot identify what I am looking at as 'self' or 'me'. Intellectually, I can understand the reflection as me, but there is nothing that connects the person in the reflection with 'me' outside of that intellectual understanding. Full length mirrors bother me, because my first instinct is to assume that someone else is in the room with me, rather than noticing that there is a mirror there - it's like walking into a darkened house where you can't see the full length mirror and your brain says "intruder", but 24/7.
>>697135264
this post makes a great point and as mentioned in this post >>697134804
where gender dyphoria has no longer been classified as a disorder, and why would that be? be cause people bitched and whined even thought it causes warped and a disconnected view on how the effected view their bodys, which should make it a disorder
>>697133893
>intelletually
Kek
Silly little sjw, you are free to think what you want, but don't expect others to validate you.
Gender is a social construct that should be removed and replaced by calling people 'givers' or 'takers'
Unless I'm your close friend I probably won't remember your NAME. And if I'm your close friend I'll remember damn near everything about you. Suck it strangers I don't care about you in the least!
>>697136021
so shouldn't your body seeing its self as what it isn't be a mental disorder?
>>697130923
This.
>>697134690
That doesn't necessarily mean a mental illness. These aren't the 1900 hundreds. We aren't just gonna toss somebody is psyc ward just because of "abnormal" behavior.
They want you to believe there are no difference between how you FEEL and what your junk looks like. There should be only 3 categories (mael/female/hermaphrodite).
But look here:
Pangender:
-> Fuck it, I feel like all genders
Pansexuality or omnisexuality:
-> I'll fuck ANY gender
Third gender or Trigender:
-> I can't make up my fucking mind about my gender
Bigender/Bi-gender/Dual gender:
-> I am both genders at times, and I will fuck any gender
Cisgender/cis:
-> My gender is defined by my genitals, and I fuck the opposite gender only
Bissu:
-> Fuck that shit - I became a being af ALL genders
Intersex/Hermaphrodites:
-> I can't even see what my gender is my looking at my junk
Androgyny:
-> I fucking look and speak like a girl, but I am cis, dammit
Gay:
-> I fuck men only, and I am a man
Lesbian:
-> I fuck women only, and I am a woman
Bisexuality:
-> I fuck both men and women
I think this is just silly nonsense that people have come up with because they are starved for attention and being queer is no longer a shock. Just a desperate attempt tobremain edgy.
>>697132740
this!
>>697136659
Actually, I should make an info chart out of this, then you could just find the cross section between how you feel and how your junk look like, and boom - you have a diagnosis.
I'm fine if you're trans, and I'm fine if you're scared to get the operation/uncomfortable with it, just don't be an attention whore.
>>697135469
I'd hit it.
>>697129640
Izumi akazawa
Animu another
>>697119621
>genders
>genders
>genders
Gender is literally a synonym for sex.
Stop trying to change gender from a synonym for sex to a synonym of personality, it's unnecessary.
>>697119621
"Gender" is derived from the Roman "genus", meaning "group" or "kind", and has been understood, generally since its inception into the standard lexicon of English, as referring to masculinity/femininity, which is separate from the biological sex of the person in question, if we're referring to a very pedantic, linguistic sense of the word.
"Gender" is not a biological term, it's a linguistic term, which means it's in a constant state of fluidity, so arguing one speaker's interpretation and another's is basically pointless. Even in the age of codified written language we can't escape subjective interpretation.
It's actually kind of an interesting point in theoretical linguistics.
>>697136659
"i fuck man ass"
>>697119621
God white race is so doomed
I miss the days where people were burned at the stake for this kinda shit
I've decided I gender identify as God. You cannot disagree with this and not implicitly agreeing with everything I say, do and believe is oppressing me.
You also have to worship me.
Mmmm'kay
>>697137145
You fucking epistemologist never appear when someone needs you and only sho up to fuck everything.
"Oh yas this means this but it actually means another thing"
Go to fuck yourselves niggers.
>>697137165
Actually, the Homosexuals population is constant at 5%, and a genetic thing, not a cultural thing. I don't think you will see the world crumbling because of this.
>>697137190
Also killing 5% of the world because you are not happy what they do in their bedroom might be a bit retardo
>>697120884
At least it's straight you cum-guzzling pozfaggot
>>697137889
i would be alot happier if you werent living right now
Nope. Bullshit.
You're either a man or a woman. Thinking anything else is mental deficiency.
We don't have to prove you wrong. You're the one putting forward a hypothesis. Prove yourself right first.
>>697119621
Maybe thats because there are actually a bunch of different pokemon and only 2 real genders?
>>697123845
>Obama half-breed muslim
while from a PC point of view it would be wrong to say that
From a LITERAL point of view , THAT'S what he is , Jesus don't get so butthurt about it
>>697137889
Not the case.
If they kept it in the bedroom and shut up, no one would have a problem with them.
It's the fact these mentally defunct evolutionary failures have to make such a fucking fuss about theor special snowflake status, that is why people rightly hate them and wish these attention seeking faggots dead.
>>697136587
>2016
>thinks everybody with a mental illness gets send into psyc ward
wat
>>697119621
noun
1The state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones): traditional concepts of gender [as modifier]: gender roles
More example sentences Synonyms
1.1The members of one or other sex: differences between the genders are encouraged from an early age
More example sentences
2 Grammar (In languages such as Latin, Greek, Russian, and German) each of the classes (typically masculine, feminine, common, neuter) of nouns and pronouns distinguished by the different inflections that they have and require in words syntactically associated with them. Grammatical gender is only very loosely associated with natural distinctions of sex.
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/gender
Definition of gender
1
a : a subclass within a grammatical class (as noun, pronoun, adjective, or verb) of a language that is partly arbitrary but also partly based on distinguishable characteristics (as shape, social rank, manner of existence, or sex) and that determines agreement with and selection of other words or grammatical forms b : membership of a word or a grammatical form in such a subclass c : an inflectional form showing membership in such a subclass
2
a : sex <the feminine gender> b : the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gender
Simple Definition of sex
: the state of being male or female
: men or male animals as a group or women or female animals as a group
: physical activity in which people touch each other's bodies, kiss each other, etc. : physical activity that is related to and often includes sexual intercourse
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sex
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/sex
THERE IS YOUR PROOF YOU FUCKING IDIOT.
>>697119621
thread/
My dad's a head doctor at a Swiss psychiatry clinic.
I'm currently staying at my parents, so I might ask him some questions if you guys have any. It seems the thread is dead though, so I might do this another time.
>>697121823
this
>>697130923
This.
>>697120323
Don't bite you fags, this is special extra potent bait.
>>697119621
The word you're looking for is "Personality"
>>697121777
You are not worthy of trips, you should be ashamed.
>>697138366
The answer is no, he is not gay if he genuinely believed it was female.
The trans dude that cut off his dick is gay.
...and not gay dude needs to kill the dickless wonder for raping him.
He was coerced into sex under false pretenses.
>>697140680
KEK.
I have something for you.
>>697140797
You're funny. Stupid as shit but funny.
>>697141067
You need to look into "rape by deception"
That is exactly what that is.
>>697138366
If some fag did that to me his body would never be found.
>>697120666
>Satans getting triggered
>>697120861
Hormonal flux is the most easily recognisable thing. I know when my girl has hormonal flux because she's an annoying bitch at that time. It's been documented for milennia.
Also, telling one's 23rd chromosome pair is a trivial laboratory procedure these days, don't kid yourself that no one knows.
>>697122778
>desire
>attracted
>consider
Do you see how you're not factual? Fact is, you're either/or.
>>697119621
The word gender means sex in Latin (more specifically the male sex)
>>697123508
One shouldn't give a shit about your personal preferences, and it's insulting that your fucked up brethren demands the shit I don't want to give. Grow up.
All this gender identity bullshit is what happens when you let angsty teenage girls on the internet and give them a shithole like tumblr to echo chamber their retarded thoughts for so long they think it's actually a real thing
I miss when the internet was a thing women and normies didn't use
>>697138366
i would probably bash them.
Though I think this is bait, I don't disagree. I do think that basing your personality on something as arbitrary as sex or gender is dumb though, and classifying yourself to the nth degree doesn't really help anything. It's just putting undue importance on something you yourself acknowledge is a social construct. Be yourself, labels are dumb.
>>697119621
>There's two sexes, but many mental genders
>Prove me wrong
Easy.
There's no such thing as a "mental gender" only mental illness
>>697142463
Who demands whatnow?
You're refusing to allow a term to be defined according to things that don't have anything to do with you (well, actually it does, but you're too naive to comprehend that much). Like you said, you shouldn't give a shit. No one should, because caring where people like to put various genitals is a sure sign of mental/social arrested development.
The only reason this is even a vocal issue is that so many retards won't let it go that it's none of their goddamned business and anyone who's not exactly like them is "disordered", "delusional" or other terms they aren't qualified to use.
Take your argument up with THEM, not the people who are using the terms to try to correct them. It's THEIR fault you hear about this all the time, not the transgendereds'.
>>697134690
No it doesn't lol.
>>697119621
> mental genders
Did you mean to say mental illnesses?
>>697123508
> why do gay people like twinks
I don't know dude why do I like anything from chubby to fit girls, BECAUSE IT HAS A FUCKING VAGINA FOR ME TO PUT MY DICK IN THATS WHY. Faggots like dick and they like everything from twinks to muscle daddies. And you should seriously look into suicide.
>>697119621
If gender doesn't dictate how you should look or act (ie social constructs where only girls are being allowed to wear dresses), then what are these mental genders based on?
>>697144012
Sorry, I'm WAY too intelligent and valuable to society and this planet for that.
YOU on the other hand...
First
>>697119621
No u
>>697126623
lol except that it's recognized now? Dumbass
>>697145324
No u
>>697119621
thats actually not up to date. newest cultural and gender studies argue on the basis that sex is also discoursively constructed
thats also the entire thing in a nutshell. they refuse to believe in a single thing existing outside everyones head... so basically that explains how they can make their own sense out of everything.
>>697120797
Yes, yes they are. There are two genders, period. If you want to be the one that is opposite of what sex organs you have thats weird but tolerable. However, until they get their dick added or chopped off theyre still the gender of what they have. Also you cant be some third gender because its something fucking stupid and made up.
what I find hilarious is, every day I come on here and there are people insisting there's no such thing as mental illness and it's all a money grab by psychiatrists and big pharma.
>depression? bad attitude, suck it up
>anxiety? you're just a pussy
>schizophrenia? you're a special snowflake, shut up
>ptsd? get over it faggot
>bipolar? great, now they're trying to make being cheerful a mental illness
and then
>transgender? totally a mental illness you guise, these people need treatment
just cracks me up, you guys need to get together and figure out what is a mental illness and what's not
>>697123508
I don't know why you're trying to dig so deep into personal preference, man.
Stop trying to twist personal preference to suit your argument, because it's different for everyone.
Chill. Just keep what you do behind closed doors to yourself and stop making your faggotry public knowledge.
If you going like being judged, stop putting your shit out there to be judged.
>>697128522
Go back to /v/, your autism is showing
in all fairness, we tend to remember pokemon because each one is actually different. if you are one person and look fucking the same everyday and one day call yourself a man and the next a woman and then a wolfkin-rainbow-half-queer brony a week later, ppl arent gonna know wtf to do. jiggly puff is pink, pikachu is yellow, dont stuff shit down my magikarps throat and say its evolving into an onyx
>>697143443
Just stop trying to garner acceptance from others.
Stop trying to use your sexuality, sexual life, or sexual preferences as a point of pride or topic of conversation.
What you do behind closed doors is your business. Keep it to yourself.
If you're so hung up on what people call you, you need to grow thicker skin.
Stop caring, stop trying to cram your ideology down other people's throats, and just chill. You've got your preferences, and that's fine. Don't demand random strangers respect them. They're words. The only thing I'll respect in regards to a total stranger is their personal space.
If we were friends? Sure, I'd call you whatever you liked within reason, because I don't really care.
Stop acting like the world is out to get you, stop acting like people need to respect you, stop fighting everyone over every little thing, grow thicker skin, and learn to laugh at yourself. You're not a serious matter.
>>697146976
>I don't know why you're trying to dig so deep into personal preference, man.
Academic curiosity. I'd like to know what brain chemicals and hormones cause them and why. After all, we know that all aspects of a person's personality is nothing but data--electrical impulses in various conductivity fluids. It stands to reason that gender can be quantified similarly.
>Stop trying to twist personal preference to suit your argument, because it's different for everyone.
If it's different for everyone, then WHY is it different for everyone?! (I disagree, I'd say there are certainly finite traits that create attraction/desire and OBIVOUSLY there are certain combinations that are far more prevalent than others.
>Chill. Just keep what you do behind closed doors to yourself and stop making your faggotry public knowledge.
Why is this about me personally now?
>If you going [sic] like being judged, stop putting your shit out there to be judged.
I didn't volunteer my preferences, only my base sex and gender and only after it became part of the debate. What I am/identify as is anecdotal and doesn't really factor into the bigger question.
>>697120666
satanic trips of truth
>>697140625
>http://i.4cdn.org/b/1469864282369.png
Yeah fuck it
>>697141447
>mfw the opposition of SFWs and fenimazis uses the 'rape' argument
Trannies kill yourselves like 40% of your mentally ill friends
>>697147937
If you're coming from a purely academic standing, then try to avoid adding your opinions to the mix.
Coming from a bisexual white republic make: I don't care what people do behind closed doors as long as it's between consenting adults. Keep it out of the public eye, don't make it public knowledge.
Those last two lines should encompass pretty much everything you could ever ask.
>>697119621
Basically horses and unicorns are different.
Horses are real, and unicorns are entirely fabricated by the human imagination but they must be real as well because horses are real.
Believing in unicorns makes me happy. If you say unicorns aren't real, you are a bigot.
I sexually identify as a gender fluid non-binary vegan wolf. And you have to use the pronoun "wle" to refer to me.
>>697130923
This
>>697119621
There's no proving anything.
The idea of a gender separate from a sex is a social construct, and thus does not have a truth value.
In terms of "There's two sexes," you're incorrect. A sex refers to the biological status, as can be determined in an individual by their genetic makeup. The X and Y human sex chromosomes usually produce XX and XY individuals, being labelled "female" and "male" respectively. Abnormalities are not especially rare though; there are many intersex individuals with more chromosomes (Klinefelter syndrome, or XXY as an example) - some result in individuals that share most traits with either male or female, which leads to them being considered an extension of male or female, but the reality is that they have a different sex.
>>697131126
I'm going to need to source here at least to prove you are not a stupid faggot. Also you need to check your privilege because I don't identify as kiddo, how dare you insult me.
I'll never understand the whole thing with "well I'm a girl trapped in a man's body". It's just like...so you admit you were born a male in the first place....
I've tried so hard to understand and be open about this, but everything just contradicts itself. I'm giving up
>>697119621
Not fuck you because you are sexually unattractive/have a genital that I am not pleased with (Applicable to Everything, and you can just call it sexual attraction)
or
Will fuck you because you are sexually attractive to me and have a genital that I am Pleased with (Applicable to Everything, and you can just call it sexual attraction)
And then when two people come to a conclusion that they'd fuck each-other, they just fuck, not call it omni-pan-detrosexual
BUT if you have a penis and/or was born with a penis you fucking tell me or it will hurt you just that much more when I find out
>>697148315
Right, but your "targeting" on those lines is backwards, much the same way the perception of homosexual acceptance is.
The reason you hear about everyone's..."settings" so frequently is that there are fucktards all over the place who would deny them their humanity, call them mentally deranged or even attack them for what they are. By vocalizing what they are they are trying simply to "mainstream" their right to be what they are and not be sidebarred.
It's the homophobic, brainless cretins who you should be mad at for seeing the "Tumblrites" at arms all the time.
If people would just accept things that are FAR outside the scope of their personal business, then it wouldn't be necessary for those who are affected to "show it" nearly as overtly.
Bigotry is the common enemy of academia and non-conforming persons.
>>697146388
Actually there is more genders, you know how girls are XX and men XY, some people have more chromosomes which makes them XXX, XXY etc, google it.
>>697149070
heres a link; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klinefelter_syndrome
>>697138366
if this would happen to me I'd fucking whip out my bycicle and bludgeon that creature with it
>>697149224
> syndrome
it's called syndrome for a reason.
>>697149068
I'm honestly just TL;DR'ing this.
Grow thicker skin and let shit roll off your shoulders. Your special snowflake complex isn't important.
I'ma go make an omelette. If you want to type up an essay, you go right ahead. Like I've said a dozen times already, shit doesn't matter. Plus I won't be here.
>>697149781
Yep, because society tells them they are males, but they discover something is wrong (generally they have reduced fertility) and then when seeking the reason why, it is discovered that they have a different set of sex genes. Still considering themselves male, they explain it as a condition.
It's not really a condition unless you are expecting something other than the average XXY life.
We need to create a safe space for these freaks, er, well, super special people to live together. An asylum of sorts. Where they get all the attention they deserve and free drugs too!
>>697149070
XXX are still females
XXY and XYY are still males.
>>697128210
What about eunuchs though?
>>697122514
I thought I was a cat once too. I was five.
>>697150682
That's a gross simplification though. The reality is that they differ in sex by nature of them being distinguishable. The traits of their sex may align with males or females more closely, but there is a literal and measurable difference.
>>697143443
What.
I don't care if you fuck men in the ass, and they don't mind that I don't care. That is fine by me.
What is stupid is demanding I learn a made up word that matches their delusions, or be labeled "anti-fagot" or whatever it's called, and be ridiculed for being a normie.
If it only happened here, fine, but the world should not become /b/
>>697151013
Dwarfism, Down-syndrome, and other conditions have literal and measurable differences compared to the vast majority of the population. they're still categorized into male and female.